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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you a songwriter? Are you looking to turn your
songwriting passion into a full time gigig? Whether you are
just at the start of your songwriting journey or a
seasoned industry professional, this show is made for you.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We will welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews,
and communitating. Now welcome your host, Sarantos.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in and welcome back
to the Songwriter Show. I'm your humble host, Santos, a
solo music artist who's been writing lyrics for as long
as I can remember. Ors just mean the world to me,
and that's why I love hosting this show for you
every single Tuesday evening. I believe in my heart that
every song is a story. Tonight, I'm so excited to
(00:47):
have on the show the Darren Holland Project. They're a
high energy, original indie rock pop group based in Grain Valley, Missouri.
They're known for their unique blend of rock and pop
music with a retro vibe. The project is led by
Darren Holland and Cheryl Holland.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Special guest, Welcome to show tonight. How are you guys?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Thanks how are you great?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Doing well? So you guys are are you guys brother sister?
You guys married? What's the deal with your names? That's
the first question I'm going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh we're married?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, okay, you sign it so defeated there?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, take me to the curb yet?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, okay, she's thinking about it though. I don't know
if that pause and the way she said that. So yeah.
So tell us a little bit about when you guys,
you know, got together. When did you start playing?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Oh my gosh, well, we've been married for fifteen years,
and we really dated five years before that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
We really started playing together. I met Charlotte at a
karaoke place that I was also hosting open mic set,
and I was really looking for a female to go
with me so that I could with the open mic,
I could run both sides, in other words, do anything,
(02:06):
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, we started out purely professional at first.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, that didn't last, so okay.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
So yeah, we've been together as a duo for twenty
three twenty four years, yep, as a married couple twenty
five yeah, well dating married twenty five yep.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay, And tell us a little bit about what instruments
you guys play one of you sing? Do you both sing?
How does that work out for you?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Well, I sing, I play flutes, I play full drum
kit on some of the songs.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I play keyboard and I don't know what this thing is.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's a little keyboard too, Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Little little mini keyboard with different sounds. I mean pretty much,
that's that's me. And I played mangos. I'm got do
a lot of percussion, tambourine.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
And things like that, Okay, And Darren, I'm the guitar,
the bass, the programs, the synthesizers, and then I am
the first mix going down.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I also do vocals, both of us do. It creates
a very unique sound with our vocals together, so.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Most of the harmonizing on the vocals as well.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, are there any musicians that you guys admire, respect
try to emulate.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Everybody has something to contribute. Basically, my all time favorite band.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Of course is the Beatles. I don't want to be,
you know, too.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Obvious, but Beatles for me, I just always like their
their harmonies together solar they're great, but together they were amazing.
And of course the Beg's and their harmonies and all right,
so I'm going to really really show my age.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm with Durani. So I'm Deuran Duran.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I love Duran Durant. I remember them. I'm an eighties
child too, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, Duran Duran was great. The Beatles, I respect them,
but you know, Cheryl's into them. I respect them, got it. Yeah,
it's not the same quite the same deal. But I
think that's because my parents when I was a kid,
I really grew up on AM radio. So the most
(04:16):
of the Beatles that I ever heard was like yesterday,
you know, AM stations didn't play that, so so yeah,
I mean I grew up on AM station, so you
know a lot of Neil Diamond, the Mamas and Papa's
and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
All right, how do you guys come up with the magic?
How do you guys start a song?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
The brainchild of that one?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Honestly, I just sit there and watch TV and play.
You know, Cheryl will tell you I drive everybody nuts
with it. I'll sit there and just play along during commercials.
If we're watching a movie and there's a soundtrack and
it's just the music, you know, I'll sit there and
do different lead progressions with it just for the fun
(05:04):
of it. So, you know, as for writing, it's anything
that's around. Some of our songs are political, some of
them aren't. You know, it just depends on the day
and what's going on.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
You know, happy if you really listen, may sound happy
but really aren't happy. And you know, you just whatever
happens during the day and day to day. It's, you know,
one day at a time type of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah. I mean the song that you're going to play
today is a song called Remedy. Just the chorus in
it itself is it's a hard life to know. I've
been chilled to the bone when I came around that
one sunshiny day. Tell me? Is it easier to love
or to walk away? You know it really a lot
(05:54):
of people have to make that choice whether do they
love it or do they just need to let it go,
just walk away from it, you know, depends what your
remedy is.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, how do you decide that for a song? How
you decide if a song you just need to let
it go? You know it's not going to work for you. You
just don't think it's going to be a hit.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Oh, I usually I'll play them, you know, different riffs
and come up with different lyrics for something for a
couple of nights and play over it. And usually what
it comes down to is if I stop playing it
for about three days, if I go back to play
it and can't remember exactly how to do it, it
(06:37):
ain't worth it. I don't know the songs find me,
Sure they find me. I don't find them. I never have.
They've always come to me for no reason.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
When you look at beginning songwriters, or if you had
advice for other people, can you relate to them like
maybe like the biggest mistake you made, so maybe something
they can avoid doing.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
This mistake I ever made was listening to everybody around me.
It stopped me from doing things. You know, you sit
there and your parents with, oh, you know you have
to hold down a real job, you have to get
you know, why don't you come up? It's yeah, it's
just a hobby. You know. Of course you want to
(07:20):
go work for Verizon because that's where my dad worked.
You know, No, I really didn't. I really didn't want
to at all.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So basically, do it makes you happy?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, find yourself man, and just go for it. Money
ain't worth it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, it's just it's.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Important to have to pay your billings food.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
You need to pay your bills and get food on
the table. But besides that, it's really I guess like
the Beatles say, I can't buy you love, man, You
know I really can't. Yeah, you don't get it from that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Tell us about this song that we're gonna hear. What
inspired it?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
As I said before, it just they just come to me.
It's not a matter of what inspired it. It's they're
just sort of in me, and they come out at
different times. I know it sounds nuts, but it just
all comes together and I don't know why it just does.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
All right, I'll tell you what. Let's take a listen.
We'll come back and talk tomorrow. Okay, okay, all right,
everybody check this out here we go.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Wake up fel emotion, Oh bag you emotion conn in.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
All this energy. It's so gay, with all the asa.
I know we'll escape there. It's a hud. I've been
(09:11):
uh when I came right house and tell me?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Is it easier to love or walk away? Coast's see
you going fast?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Some good chip.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Something escape from on the fun stacy.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
Finding a reg.
Speaker 9 (09:48):
It's a hug.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I've been.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
H when I around that Johnny Day, tell me, is
it easier to love Old walk Away?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's a.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Lot to know.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I bench ll to.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
When I came around that wants a Johnny Day? Tell me,
is it easier to love Old walk Away?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
They come shame, So thank you for sharing that song
(11:30):
with us.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You're welcome, ye, no problem.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So if there's a movie out there that you guys
both love, is there a song of yours that you
think should have been in that movie?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Honestly, not to sound conceited, but I think all of
them can be a sound honestly, depending on the movie.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Favorite movie, Well, my favorite movie is Jaws.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, mine, mine's like Star Wars. I don't know if
any of our stup.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
No, but like let's say Stranger Things, I think a
lot of our songs could fit that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Type of movie. There's also like some romcoms that some
of our stuff would be good in. Yeah, well, it's
hard to pinpoint exactly what.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I think our stuff would be better in, like dark
comedies and not really hers but suspense. Suspense. Yeah, you know,
there's it's hard.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's a hard question.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Sorry, Yeah, that's all right, Okay, So do you guys
perform pretty regularly in public?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
We do not right now. We used to all the time.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, it got hard for me because I work a
full time job and it was hard to be and
I usually work on the weekend, so whenever we will play,
it will be on the weekend, so I have to
take off.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And it got to be a little well, and then
and then what really stopped us was COVID. Yeah, COVID
killed everything. I mean we've we've talked about it year before,
about what COVID has done to this country in general.
I mean, our daughter is fourteen years old, and really
(13:12):
her and her whole class completely missed a year and
we can see the stuff that they're missing, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It just they're playing catch up at his heart.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah, and with music, it really changed everything too, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, no, I get it. What was your first job
for each of you guys?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
First job for me? I started working at fourteen and
it was burger.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
King Okay, how about you there.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Highlight I ten years old that a paper out.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I actually had a pretty cool first job. I worked
for a place called EJ. Stewart back in Pennsylvania and
they were a video production house. I got to meet
Julian Lennon and Phil Collins and Cyndey Lauper and a
whole bunch of other ones. We would do shoots for MTV,
(14:05):
but we would also do like industrial shoots for I
can't remember the name right now of the brand of keyboard,
but no, no, no, it was a quarter Quiet something
like that. Anyway, real high end keyboards we were doing
industrial shoots for. We would do commercials for different things too,
(14:27):
and so, yeah, it was a pretty cool job. And
I was at that when I was sixteen. I went
on from there, you know, and then I guess I
really jumped out of it because once again, there we
go a job that I really liked and really thought
was cool that I would have built up in My
(14:47):
dad said, well, that's not stable, that's not a real job.
It's not union, you know. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
That's what people did. They still do that, I mean
to be honest with you, Yeah, it's like, no.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I don't think so we definitely made it a point
not to do it to our kids whatsoever. Yeah, you know,
let them be then and we just go to the
things and we're happy, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
What do you guys, if you could pick like a
favorite seventies or eighties jam, what would it be for
e gu.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I'll tell you what. It wouldn't be Free Bird.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
I really love the disco era, so I would probably
pick something like oh gosh, okay, not to beat you, Cory,
but Beiji's all the way staying.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Alive, Stay Aliveah yeah, thanks, Now that song is stuck
in my head. That's all right.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm going more with like the electronics Tainted Love, okay, yeah, yeah,
Gary Human's Cars good. Yeah, I mean that's what really
got me into The King. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, just
the baseline in two tribes from Frankie gets to Hollywood
(16:06):
and you know, they really had a different feel in
the time.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
You know, although.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
She's got a lot of disco, that's kind of why
I'm gravity to term Billy Eilish was.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Great too, but Billy rocks. She's got it together.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay. Is there like a certain movie or TV show
where you guys look at that and you're like, oh
my god, I'm that character, Like who would you be
on TV? Or who are you on TV?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Okay again, showing my age awsome.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Awesome, Oh my god? Okay, all right, I don't know,
why don't you pick one for Darren? Why don't you
pick one for him?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You're kind of a Sheldon, but in the music, yeah, musical.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Show, he's a nerd. I'm a nerd too, So there's
nothing wrong with us nerds. We're going to take over
the world, damn it.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, who comes me.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And talk me?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Look at his guitar and we just kind of like, okay,
what's different.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Than the other guitar?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You know, I have no thanks telling me all these
look at the what is it?
Speaker 9 (17:10):
The uh the one one has Homebuckers, one has P
nineties And I'm like, what, you know, come on, there's
a big difference, you know, the music world, you.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Know, and trying to explain the difference between you know,
just a wired amp as compared to a tube amp.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
You know, clue, I'm like, you got the blank look on.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, solid stage or tube and it's like, uh, anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, So tell us about a book that you guys,
uh absolutely loved and everybody else hated.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You'd be the one who knows that Darren doesn't read books.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I don't read.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I'm the avid reader. So I got to say, you know, honestly,
I don't know. I would say maybe the Spotlight series.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
So what's the woman's book that you were read?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I did just read a book I can't remember, which
is Sluts and Feminism. It was cold and I can't
remember the author of it, and really really good at
open my eyes a lot about things. But I'm not
sure if anybody else would read it, but I thought
it was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Is there like the weirdest piece of merch you guys
have ever come up with, like some kind of idea
that's way out there? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I don't think anything that's been really far out there,
just on CDs and t shirts, but it Yeah, yeah,
we probably should come up with other stuff. But okay,
you about a keaching or something. No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Is there like a guilty pleasure song? You guys are
embarrassed to admit that you love Joe?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Really you liked that song? Kind of how it could
be to itible? I would have to say Shiloh from
Neil I'm okay, yeah, that would be mine. Yeah, I
love that song. I don't know why, it just has
something to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Okay, all right, tell you what last question of the night.
Tell us about where people can buy your stuff, stream
it or find you online.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Okay, Well, you can find us on Spotify, Amazon, anything
out there, deezer, going down the list, we are on
every single one of them. Yeah, and you can find
us by just going to the Darrenholland Project at link
tree dot com and that will give you.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
Everything the platform. Yeah, access to YouTube and Instagram. Yeah
x x x that we have to get off Blue Sky.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
All those digital platforms are there on link Tree. You
have to make use the Darren Holland Project.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, we are the Darren Holland Project.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, awesome. I want to thank you guys so much
for being on the show tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
This was fun.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Thanks Sam's welcome.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's been great, awesome, So thank you to all the
fans out there for listening and spending a little bit
of your precious time with three of us tonight. We
hope your unique story gets heard around the world too.
My name is Sarantos. Please join me every single Tuesday
evening to hear other amazing artists share their fascinating behind
the scenes stories right here at the Songwriter Show Reality
(20:27):
Radio one to one. I love you all. Have a
great night.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
Die the sun running by I was too busy working.
Did it see graded school in my eyes? Always felt
(21:18):
the hurting.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
Not sure this is how I should be spending my time,
Not sure.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
This is what I want?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Wasn't right?
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Man?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I do sha so for to do.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Not should.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Be and I.
Speaker 13 (21:53):
Wait for.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And I.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
Fine for.
Speaker 13 (22:01):
I always spend the dream, but it's pastream, but it's
so time.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
I never was a scream. I reay say I can't follow,
but I can't say. I can't say. I can't say.
Speaker 12 (22:54):
All these people are wishing bad without my posission, shot,
push with with my friends, hold same days, the same
(23:16):
my way.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I'd be okay.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
If I just let my story breathe. I'd be okay.
Speaker 11 (23:27):
If I just sat my words.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Free and lila sh.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Key.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
They battling till they.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And I were.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Wait for.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And I.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Fine for.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
I the tream, but it's passtream.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
To my shot time, my.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Scream, my racing, I can't find back cost me and
IM waiting for and IM.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
Finding for bread becomes fine, fine for fun be comes
five time, the fact be cont time for every dam night.
Speaker 12 (24:54):
F loves my mind, letther sleep listen.
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Speaker 4 (26:16):
Many many, many.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
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Speaker 4 (27:17):
No hang Hello, hang hanghead
Are you a songwriter? Are you looking to turn your
songwriting passion into a full time gigig? Whether you are
just at the start of your songwriting journey or a
seasoned industry professional, this show is made for you.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We will welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews,
and communitating. Now welcome your host, Sarantos.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in and welcome back
to the Songwriter Show. I'm your humble host, Santos, a
solo music artist who's been writing lyrics for as long
as I can remember. Ors just mean the world to me,
and that's why I love hosting this show for you
every single Tuesday evening. I believe in my heart that
every song is a story. Tonight, I'm so excited to
(00:47):
have on the show the Darren Holland Project. They're a
high energy, original indie rock pop group based in Grain Valley, Missouri.
They're known for their unique blend of rock and pop
music with a retro vibe. The project is led by
Darren Holland and Cheryl Holland.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Special guest, Welcome to show tonight. How are you guys?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Thanks how are you great?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Doing well? So you guys are are you guys brother sister?
You guys married? What's the deal with your names? That's
the first question I'm going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh we're married?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, okay, you sign it so defeated there?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, take me to the curb yet?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, okay, she's thinking about it though. I don't know
if that pause and the way she said that. So yeah.
So tell us a little bit about when you guys,
you know, got together. When did you start playing?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Oh my gosh, well, we've been married for fifteen years,
and we really dated five years before that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
We really started playing together. I met Charlotte at a
karaoke place that I was also hosting open mic set,
and I was really looking for a female to go
with me so that I could with the open mic,
I could run both sides, in other words, do anything,
(02:06):
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, we started out purely professional at first.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, that didn't last, so okay.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
So yeah, we've been together as a duo for twenty
three twenty four years, yep, as a married couple twenty
five yeah, well dating married twenty five yep.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay, And tell us a little bit about what instruments
you guys play one of you sing? Do you both sing?
How does that work out for you?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Well, I sing, I play flutes, I play full drum
kit on some of the songs.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I play keyboard and I don't know what this thing is.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's a little keyboard too, Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Little little mini keyboard with different sounds. I mean pretty much,
that's that's me. And I played mangos. I'm got do
a lot of percussion, tambourine.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
And things like that, Okay, And Darren, I'm the guitar,
the bass, the programs, the synthesizers, and then I am
the first mix going down.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I also do vocals, both of us do. It creates
a very unique sound with our vocals together, so.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Most of the harmonizing on the vocals as well.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, are there any musicians that you guys admire, respect
try to emulate.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Everybody has something to contribute. Basically, my all time favorite band.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Of course is the Beatles. I don't want to be,
you know, too.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Obvious, but Beatles for me, I just always like their
their harmonies together solar they're great, but together they were amazing.
And of course the Beg's and their harmonies and all right,
so I'm going to really really show my age.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm with Durani. So I'm Deuran Duran.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I love Duran Durant. I remember them. I'm an eighties
child too, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, Duran Duran was great. The Beatles, I respect them,
but you know, Cheryl's into them. I respect them, got it. Yeah,
it's not the same quite the same deal. But I
think that's because my parents when I was a kid,
I really grew up on AM radio. So the most
(04:16):
of the Beatles that I ever heard was like yesterday,
you know, AM stations didn't play that, so so yeah,
I mean I grew up on AM station, so you
know a lot of Neil Diamond, the Mamas and Papa's
and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
All right, how do you guys come up with the magic?
How do you guys start a song?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
The brainchild of that one?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Honestly, I just sit there and watch TV and play.
You know, Cheryl will tell you I drive everybody nuts
with it. I'll sit there and just play along during commercials.
If we're watching a movie and there's a soundtrack and
it's just the music, you know, I'll sit there and
do different lead progressions with it just for the fun
(05:04):
of it. So, you know, as for writing, it's anything
that's around. Some of our songs are political, some of
them aren't. You know, it just depends on the day
and what's going on.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
You know, happy if you really listen, may sound happy
but really aren't happy. And you know, you just whatever
happens during the day and day to day. It's, you know,
one day at a time type of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah. I mean the song that you're going to play
today is a song called Remedy. Just the chorus in
it itself is it's a hard life to know. I've
been chilled to the bone when I came around that
one sunshiny day. Tell me? Is it easier to love
or to walk away? You know it really a lot
(05:54):
of people have to make that choice whether do they
love it or do they just need to let it go,
just walk away from it, you know, depends what your
remedy is.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, how do you decide that for a song? How
you decide if a song you just need to let
it go? You know it's not going to work for you. You
just don't think it's going to be a hit.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Oh, I usually I'll play them, you know, different riffs
and come up with different lyrics for something for a
couple of nights and play over it. And usually what
it comes down to is if I stop playing it
for about three days, if I go back to play
it and can't remember exactly how to do it, it
(06:37):
ain't worth it. I don't know the songs find me,
Sure they find me. I don't find them. I never have.
They've always come to me for no reason.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
When you look at beginning songwriters, or if you had
advice for other people, can you relate to them like
maybe like the biggest mistake you made, so maybe something
they can avoid doing.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
This mistake I ever made was listening to everybody around me.
It stopped me from doing things. You know, you sit
there and your parents with, oh, you know you have
to hold down a real job, you have to get
you know, why don't you come up? It's yeah, it's
just a hobby. You know. Of course you want to
(07:20):
go work for Verizon because that's where my dad worked.
You know, No, I really didn't. I really didn't want
to at all.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So basically, do it makes you happy?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, find yourself man, and just go for it. Money
ain't worth it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, it's just it's.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Important to have to pay your billings food.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
You need to pay your bills and get food on
the table. But besides that, it's really I guess like
the Beatles say, I can't buy you love, man, You
know I really can't. Yeah, you don't get it from that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Tell us about this song that we're gonna hear. What
inspired it?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
As I said before, it just they just come to me.
It's not a matter of what inspired it. It's they're
just sort of in me, and they come out at
different times. I know it sounds nuts, but it just
all comes together and I don't know why it just does.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
All right, I'll tell you what. Let's take a listen.
We'll come back and talk tomorrow. Okay, okay, all right,
everybody check this out here we go.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Wake up fel emotion, Oh bag you emotion conn in.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
All this energy. It's so gay, with all the asa.
I know we'll escape there. It's a hud. I've been
(09:11):
uh when I came right house and tell me?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Is it easier to love or walk away? Coast's see
you going fast?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Some good chip.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Something escape from on the fun stacy.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
Finding a reg.
Speaker 9 (09:48):
It's a hug.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I've been.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
H when I around that Johnny Day, tell me, is
it easier to love Old walk Away?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's a.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Lot to know.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I bench ll to.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
When I came around that wants a Johnny Day? Tell me,
is it easier to love Old walk Away?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
They come shame, So thank you for sharing that song
(11:30):
with us.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You're welcome, ye, no problem.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So if there's a movie out there that you guys
both love, is there a song of yours that you
think should have been in that movie?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Honestly, not to sound conceited, but I think all of
them can be a sound honestly, depending on the movie.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Favorite movie, Well, my favorite movie is Jaws.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, mine, mine's like Star Wars. I don't know if
any of our stup.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
No, but like let's say Stranger Things, I think a
lot of our songs could fit that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Type of movie. There's also like some romcoms that some
of our stuff would be good in. Yeah, well, it's
hard to pinpoint exactly what.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I think our stuff would be better in, like dark
comedies and not really hers but suspense. Suspense. Yeah, you know,
there's it's hard.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's a hard question.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Sorry, Yeah, that's all right, Okay, So do you guys
perform pretty regularly in public?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
We do not right now. We used to all the time.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, it got hard for me because I work a
full time job and it was hard to be and
I usually work on the weekend, so whenever we will play,
it will be on the weekend, so I have to
take off.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And it got to be a little well, and then
and then what really stopped us was COVID. Yeah, COVID
killed everything. I mean we've we've talked about it year before,
about what COVID has done to this country in general.
I mean, our daughter is fourteen years old, and really
(13:12):
her and her whole class completely missed a year and
we can see the stuff that they're missing, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It just they're playing catch up at his heart.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah, and with music, it really changed everything too, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, no, I get it. What was your first job
for each of you guys?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
First job for me? I started working at fourteen and
it was burger.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
King Okay, how about you there.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Highlight I ten years old that a paper out.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I actually had a pretty cool first job. I worked
for a place called EJ. Stewart back in Pennsylvania and
they were a video production house. I got to meet
Julian Lennon and Phil Collins and Cyndey Lauper and a
whole bunch of other ones. We would do shoots for MTV,
(14:05):
but we would also do like industrial shoots for I
can't remember the name right now of the brand of keyboard,
but no, no, no, it was a quarter Quiet something
like that. Anyway, real high end keyboards we were doing
industrial shoots for. We would do commercials for different things too,
(14:27):
and so, yeah, it was a pretty cool job. And
I was at that when I was sixteen. I went
on from there, you know, and then I guess I
really jumped out of it because once again, there we
go a job that I really liked and really thought
was cool that I would have built up in My
(14:47):
dad said, well, that's not stable, that's not a real job.
It's not union, you know. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
That's what people did. They still do that, I mean
to be honest with you, Yeah, it's like, no.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I don't think so we definitely made it a point
not to do it to our kids whatsoever. Yeah, you know,
let them be then and we just go to the
things and we're happy, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
What do you guys, if you could pick like a
favorite seventies or eighties jam, what would it be for
e gu.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I'll tell you what. It wouldn't be Free Bird.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
I really love the disco era, so I would probably
pick something like oh gosh, okay, not to beat you, Cory,
but Beiji's all the way staying.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Alive, Stay Aliveah yeah, thanks, Now that song is stuck
in my head. That's all right.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm going more with like the electronics Tainted Love, okay, yeah, yeah,
Gary Human's Cars good. Yeah, I mean that's what really
got me into The King. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, just
the baseline in two tribes from Frankie gets to Hollywood
(16:06):
and you know, they really had a different feel in
the time.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
You know, although.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
She's got a lot of disco, that's kind of why
I'm gravity to term Billy Eilish was.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Great too, but Billy rocks. She's got it together.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay. Is there like a certain movie or TV show
where you guys look at that and you're like, oh
my god, I'm that character, Like who would you be
on TV? Or who are you on TV?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Okay again, showing my age awsome.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Awesome, Oh my god? Okay, all right, I don't know,
why don't you pick one for Darren? Why don't you
pick one for him?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You're kind of a Sheldon, but in the music, yeah, musical.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Show, he's a nerd. I'm a nerd too, So there's
nothing wrong with us nerds. We're going to take over
the world, damn it.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, who comes me.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And talk me?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Look at his guitar and we just kind of like, okay,
what's different.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Than the other guitar?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You know, I have no thanks telling me all these
look at the what is it?
Speaker 9 (17:10):
The uh the one one has Homebuckers, one has P
nineties And I'm like, what, you know, come on, there's
a big difference, you know, the music world, you.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Know, and trying to explain the difference between you know,
just a wired amp as compared to a tube amp.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
You know, clue, I'm like, you got the blank look on.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, solid stage or tube and it's like, uh, anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, So tell us about a book that you guys,
uh absolutely loved and everybody else hated.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You'd be the one who knows that Darren doesn't read books.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I don't read.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I'm the avid reader. So I got to say, you know, honestly,
I don't know. I would say maybe the Spotlight series.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
So what's the woman's book that you were read?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I did just read a book I can't remember, which
is Sluts and Feminism. It was cold and I can't
remember the author of it, and really really good at
open my eyes a lot about things. But I'm not
sure if anybody else would read it, but I thought
it was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Is there like the weirdest piece of merch you guys
have ever come up with, like some kind of idea
that's way out there? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I don't think anything that's been really far out there,
just on CDs and t shirts, but it Yeah, yeah,
we probably should come up with other stuff. But okay,
you about a keaching or something. No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Is there like a guilty pleasure song? You guys are
embarrassed to admit that you love Joe?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Really you liked that song? Kind of how it could
be to itible? I would have to say Shiloh from
Neil I'm okay, yeah, that would be mine. Yeah, I
love that song. I don't know why, it just has
something to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Okay, all right, tell you what last question of the night.
Tell us about where people can buy your stuff, stream
it or find you online.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Okay, Well, you can find us on Spotify, Amazon, anything
out there, deezer, going down the list, we are on
every single one of them. Yeah, and you can find
us by just going to the Darrenholland Project at link
tree dot com and that will give you.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
Everything the platform. Yeah, access to YouTube and Instagram. Yeah
x x x that we have to get off Blue Sky.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
All those digital platforms are there on link Tree. You
have to make use the Darren Holland Project.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, we are the Darren Holland Project.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, awesome. I want to thank you guys so much
for being on the show tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
This was fun.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Thanks Sam's welcome.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's been great, awesome, So thank you to all the
fans out there for listening and spending a little bit
of your precious time with three of us tonight. We
hope your unique story gets heard around the world too.
My name is Sarantos. Please join me every single Tuesday
evening to hear other amazing artists share their fascinating behind
the scenes stories right here at the Songwriter Show Reality
(20:27):
Radio one to one. I love you all. Have a
great night.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
Die the sun running by I was too busy working.
Did it see graded school in my eyes? Always felt
(21:18):
the hurting.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
Not sure this is how I should be spending my time,
Not sure.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
This is what I want?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Wasn't right?
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Man?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I do sha so for to do.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Not should.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Be and I.
Speaker 13 (21:53):
Wait for.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And I.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
Fine for.
Speaker 13 (22:01):
I always spend the dream, but it's pastream, but it's
so time.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
I never was a scream. I reay say I can't follow,
but I can't say. I can't say. I can't say.
Speaker 12 (22:54):
All these people are wishing bad without my posission, shot,
push with with my friends, hold same days, the same
(23:16):
my way.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I'd be okay.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
If I just let my story breathe. I'd be okay.
Speaker 11 (23:27):
If I just sat my words.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Free and lila sh.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Key.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
They battling till they.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And I were.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Wait for.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And I.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Fine for.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
I the tream, but it's passtream.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
To my shot time, my.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Scream, my racing, I can't find back cost me and
IM waiting for and IM.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
Finding for bread becomes fine, fine for fun be comes
five time, the fact be cont time for every dam night.
Speaker 12 (24:54):
F loves my mind, letther sleep listen.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Night, Thank you for listening to the Songwriter show to
keep the momentum going.
Speaker 12 (25:09):
Head over to www.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Dot songwriter show dot com and join our free music
community of artists, songwriters, and producers.
Speaker 12 (25:18):
That's www.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Dot songwriter show dot com.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Many many, many.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
Name at
Speaker 4 (27:17):
No hang Hello, hang hanghead
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