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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Are you a songwriter?
Speaker 3 (00:02):
Are you looking to turn your songwriting passion into a
full time gig gig? Whether you are just at the
start of your songwriting journey or a seasoned industry professional.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
This show is made for you.
Speaker 5 (00:13):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We would welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews,
and communicating. Now, welcome your host, Sarantos.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in tonight, and welcome
back to this Songwriter Show. I'm your humble host, Sronto,
So a solo music artist who's been writing lyrics for
as long as I can remember. Words just mean so
much to me, and that's why I love to host
this show for you every single Tuesday evening. I believe
in my heart that every song is a story. Tonight,
I am so excited to have Carly Ryder Sleeve on
(00:48):
the show. She's a New York based singer, songwriter, and
producer known for her captivating voice and masterful guitar skills.
She's a self taught multi instrumentalist. She's been immersed music
since childhood. She's taught herself drums, piano, bass, and guitar.
After gaining a significant following on YouTube, she's toured the US,
performing at iconic venues like Rough Trade and Grammarcy Theater.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Guest, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
You're very welcome. You've got kind of a cool story.
I guess the first thing I'm going to ask you is,
are you still in Europe?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I am, Yeah, I'm living right now, like kind of
more out east on Long Island, and it's more of
like a farm vibe, more farms and stuff. But I
lived in the city for a while, so just switched
it up.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
We're not going to get into what's better in New
York or Chicago. We won't talk about that. Tell us
a little bit about what's going on in your career
at the moment.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
A lot, honestly.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I have an EP that is not going to be
out until the spring, but I'm wrapping up the production
and the songwriting on the last few songs.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It'll be a six.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Song EP, and that's going to be my debut EP
under this project. And then my partner Morgan and I
her album Out of the Blue. I produced and wrote
all of that with her, So that's an awesome thing
that I got to work on in a bit of
a different genre too, more of like.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
A pop space. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
And obviously you guys didn't kill each other right working together.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
No, honestly, it's pretty good. But there's been moments where
it's tough, of course.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, that's like when you're when you're with someone you
love and all of a sudden you're at work together
and all of a sudden you're It just changes a
whole dynamic, right, you don't get any of that free
time you're with them twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, and it's a beautiful thing in a lot of
ways because having that like creative, collaborative work relationship just
adds like even more to you know, your connection. But yeah,
sometimes it's stressful. It's really hard to get that work
life balance perfect.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
So tell us about how you got started singing playing
your guitar. When did that start for you?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I started on the drums when I was I think fourteen,
and that was kind of my first.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Instrument that I learned.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I think I was just attracted to it because I
didn't have to sing. I was really shy growing up
and like didn't even really want to talk so singing
felt really out of reach for me, even though I
loved music. But then slowly I picked up other instruments
like guitar and bass and piano and all of that stuff,
And then lastly I started singing because I had to
kind of build up the confidence.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, and it's a different animal singing versus playing an instrument,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, it's just like a vulnerable thing to like write
lyrics and like also just singing like it feels like
so exposing. I don't know how to describe it. Like
I still struggle with it sometimes.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
It took me a long time. I feel like at
this point I can kind of get up and sing
anywhere I wanted, But it took me a long time
to get to this point. And even now I'm almost
a little envious Superstars because they have like a chorus
behind them backing them up. They have everybody doing layers
and thickening their vocals, and everything's auto tuned and most
(04:09):
of it is not even live singing. But we're not
like that. You know, if you're in a little dive bar,
then you have bad acoustics or the you're getting feedback
from the monitor. I mean, you just have to kind
of deal with it.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, it's totally like a different process, and there's definitely
like very difficult things about like you know, like a
pop star show that are totally different than that. But
I agree, like having to just sing in a room,
a small room, or sometimes even sing without a mic.
If I've done like stripped down shows like that, Like
that's it's intense.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, for sure. Tell us what your favorite instrument is,
if you could pick one.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I would definitely say the guitar. Yeah, I just like
love how it. I don't know, I love playing it.
I don't even have a reason. I just think it's
the best way to a company a voice. So that's
how I start most of my songs.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And how do you start your songwriting process.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I would it's either with the guitar part, and it
kind of like starts with like the chords. I'm really
like producing and arranging, and like I might even be
more into that than singing and songwriting. Like I just
love like building a world with instrumentals. But a lot
of times I'll also just get an idea, like a
(05:19):
lyric or. I'll be just like walking around and have
a little melody pop into my head to start a song,
So it's kind of a little bit different every time.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
When you look at your creative inspiration, is there one
place or something that really always does it for you?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I would say that like a lot of people. I
think a lot of artists struggle with this. It's easier
to write when you're you know, heartbroken or dealing.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
With something like heavy like that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So I think that that's where it comes out, like
it will just flow out of me really fast. But
recently because I've been in like a happier space, it's
just a lot of reflecting and I don't know, almost
doing like mental therapy and like figuring things out and
I'll put that into lyrics.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, how often do you write?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Honestly? Every day?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'm writing something every day or like working and producing something.
It's like takes up most of my day probably, Okay.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
That's fair enough. Yeah, do you prefer producing at this
point or writing? Or what's your biggest passion at this point?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think what I love and this is why I'm
having my own like project and doing my career for
myself is the combination of everything I love, even like
the visual end and like taking like pictures and doing
videos and like being creative in that way, So I
think I love the combination, but if I had to.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Really pick one, I would probably be producing.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I guess one of the questions I'd like to ask
a lot of guests on the shows about scams. Have
you followed for one? What can you warn us about
so we can all try to protect each other.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I feel like my parents were so intense growing up
about not falling for a scam, and I don't know why.
I think like maybe when they were like young parents,
they fell for like a minor scam. So I feel
like I was on high alert all the time, so
I haven't fallen for one myself. But like, honestly, it's
just about like double checking everything, Like I'm always researching
(07:11):
on the internet and using that to my I don't know.
It helps to just have the Internet to look things
up and figure out if it's.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Real or not. Doesn't take that long if you look
into it.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
And I think it's a huge advantage because you can
put someone's name in and then scam or just something
and otherwise have you know, I know, I can't even
imagine like years ago before the internet, you know, you
get like smooth talk by somebody that's going to be
a publisher, or oh hey, but you know, give me
some money up front, and just you just don't know
any better.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, I feel like it had to have been so
much scarier back in the day. But also I think
for people that are even just a little older than
like twenties and thirties, if they're not as savvy with
the Internet, it's probably much easier to fall into that too.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, for sure. Tell us about a musical risk that
you took that never paid off.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Hmm. I had like a phase.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I wouldn't say it never paid off, but I definitely
had a phase where when I was much younger. I
think starting off with the drums, I was just into
like a more rock, grungier thing, and I think like,
instrumentally I love that, but singing over it didn't really
work for me. But for a while I was like confused, like, oh,
I love producing more rock leaning stuff, but my vocal
(08:24):
won't fit.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Because my voice is kind of soft.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So I think that that is a risk that I
took that I didn't end up sticking with.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I guess is there like a person that is the
most surprising person to ever compliment your music? Or your
vocals or your songs.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know, there's not anyone that I can think of
off the top of my head, but I hope to
add to that down the line.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
All Right, if you could put together a dream team
for you and your partner, what would it be in
terms of band manager, just you know, any shoutouts or
anyone that you want to kind of talk about.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, let me think about this for a sec.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I mean, I like everyone think that like Jack Antonov
was just able to get something out of singer songwriters,
like the really honest take. So I think that it
would be cool to just like get in a room
with him and just experience that. And in terms of
band and players, I don't have anyone super specific, but
(09:25):
I'd love to eventually because right now I'm playing all
the instruments myself with Morgan, and I'd love to be
able to produce but have amazing players that were like
so proficient at their instruments and kind of like direct
them and.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Produce in that way. So down the line, I would
totally do that.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
So tell us about this song. We're going to hear
a words of wisdom about it. What inspired it? What
me to go out into the world.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, So that was a song that I was something
I was trying to hit that kind of tone for
a while because I had definitely had a couple experiences
in my life, like one of them is a romantic relationship,
and another one was a past manager, and then there's
also someone that Morgan and I are really close to
that's also in a kind of abusive, narcissistic relationship. And
(10:13):
I think that that song is just kind of combining
all of those things that I've experienced and talking about
it and kind.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Of like never I would I would never wish.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Harm upon someone because I like to be as peaceful and.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Loving as possible.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
But sometimes you're just hoping that karma will like bite someone,
you know, because the people that do horrible things and
that say mean things and kind of operate with a
bad attitude and a mean perspective. Like I don't know,
sometimes I hope that the world can I don't know,
figure it out.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
That's really where it came from.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Okay, well let's take a listen and we'll come back
and talk tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
A right, everybody, please check this out.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Bloom you only wear Sunday bass on do that serves you.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
You have like got so damn.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Plaus to breathe the same airs you to worshiped the
crown that you kept me on white upper tears when
you were.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
I mean you my everything.
Speaker 8 (11:37):
You never gave me anything.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Doesn't miss his bead.
Speaker 8 (11:42):
Fakes happen, bath pat.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
The bath faces happened.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Bad people.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
You think you.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
Having it all?
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Now your fota you're not so bad.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
You took my world, made your.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Far away from my family.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I swear to God stood no.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
But I've been struggling already. I worship the crown that
you kept me. Wait up tears when you were all,
I mean you might have beth.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
You never gave me anything.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Kind doesn't listens.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Perfect happened, bad keeple berfect happened. Bad people.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You think you had it off.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Now your bad fat you have some bad.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Bad that's your food side can come aside, stomp all
nite the girls pol food side can come beside and
stomp all nights.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Come beside, Stop on girls, please him.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Because birthdays happened, bad people. Bath things happen, bad people.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
You think you have it all. Now you're about a
fault town.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
We can done some birth birthdays happened that people, birthdays
happened best people.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Thank you having your father faults, you don't.
Speaker 9 (13:55):
Have some that best.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
So thank you so much for sharing that song with us.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you for listening.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Welcome. So do you have like a favorite chord or
key that you find yourself coming back to time and
time again with your music?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Somewhere between like A and F sharp. I feel like
I'm always in, but I don't know why. I think
it's just maybe sits in my vocal range the best.
I don't know if bad things isn't that though.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Okay, it's funny. I routinely do like every single key
that I can. Probably about three years ago I realized,
I do you know the songs that I like? I
kind of analyze it. I was like, wow, my voice
does fit better and I do sound better in these
several keys save and I still try to do every
single key at least some cognizant and the fact that
(15:02):
I totally get that that totally makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, that's so interesting that you do that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I try to, like, you know, also move around with
the keys, especially on a body of work, because you
don't want to all this sound exactly the same, but
also I think more importantly, like if your voice sounds
good and like relatable and believable, that's probably the best thing.
So if that's it in a couple of keys, that's okay.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
So when you look at twenty twenty five, do you
have something like a surprise coming for the fans later
in the year that you want to maybe give us
a little hint about.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I believe I'll be doing some sort of collaboration, maybe
a song with Morgan. We've been like really wanting to
do like two songs together almost like how like a
single back in the day would have an A and
a B side. So yeah, I think we're we think
we're going to try to do that in the new year.
But in case it doesn't happen, don't help me do it.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Do you have a favorite nineties Jim.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Like a movie or TV show.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Or about both? I was speaking like a song, but yeah, oh, songs.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean that's basically the only time period I listened to,
not the only one, but it's one of my favorites.
I love Jeff Buckley, that's like a huge influence of mine.
A lot of like the early Radiohead albums. Definitely, there
was a lot of great kind of like mere singer
songwriters at that time too, So probably the first one's
(16:24):
coming to my mind is Jeff Buckley, so I'll just
stick with that.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
If you could have lunch for dinner with a famous songwriter,
living or dead, who would it be and what would
you ask them?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I think recently I've just been really admiring Joni Mitchell's
lyrics and just how much they put you in her head,
in her world. So I think at this point in time,
i'd probably say her just to like pick her brain
about how she gets to that place lyrically.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
If there was a tattoo that could represent your music,
what would it be?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
And why?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh, that is such a cool question, I try. I
sit up lated thinking about cool question that is really cool.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I would probably say some sort of something with a wing,
like maybe like a butterfly. I that sounds really basic
of me to say, but I really love of them
growing up and how gentle they are, but like complex
in the wings, and I feel like that's reminds me
of my music. I love making intricate parts with the instrumental,
but I'd still like it to feel soft.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yeah, I I totally get that. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Do you have a go to comfort food that is
your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yes, it is pesto pasta. That's my favorite.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I feel like you got to make a T shirt
p square or something like that. You got to write
a song, you got to write a song about that.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I know, that's really funny that it's two piece.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Has there ever been a song pesta pasta? I don't
think so.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I don't think so. It would be a first.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
So yeah, I should totally do that. That's that's cool idea. Yeah,
what was your first job growing up?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
My first job was at this Vanderbilt estate.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's like down the street from where my parents' house is,
and I worked at the planetarium, so it was kind
of cool. I really like space growing up, so I
was excited to work there when I was a teenager.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
That's awesome. I still love space at that's a cool job.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yeah, Yeah, it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And it's just like being in there and like just
looking up at the stars, like I don't know, it
feels really cool.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
So I was glad I got to do that.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, And I think growing up I lost track of
how many times I went to the Planetarium, the Museum
Assciencing Industry in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
You know, I've never been to Chicago, so I'll have
to check those out when I go.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Oh. Absolutely, Chicago's a great city, not just because we
have great food. We got a lot of cool shit
to do around here, so you definitely have to come.
So where can our fans find your stuff?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Stream it, listen to it everywhere.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
My name's carly ryders Sleeve and it's spelt with an E,
the Carly and anywhere you listen to music.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Literally awesome.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Well, I want to thank you so much for being
on the show tonight.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me. It was
fun to chat.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, so thank you again to all the fans out
there for being a part of our show tonight. If
you're an artist and you want to be on the show,
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the interview request for him. If you're a fan, thank
you so much for spending a little bit of your
precious time with the two of us tonight. I'm Simantos,
and I hope you join me every single Tuesday evening
as we continue to uncover the inspiring journeys behind the music.
(19:35):
Here's to creating, connecting, and letting our stories be heard.
Until then, keep writing and we'll see you. On the
next episode of The Songwriter Sean Reality Radio one to one,
have a great night. I love you all, I was writing.
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We sing the sod A least I could win. I
didn't stop from.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
Me then, But when have I been?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I was written down away, good, up the road.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
She said that retreating at Jordan, wad of gold.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Had the pat to the men and I couldn't slow down.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
But the faster I was delivered before I was losing around.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
When he was bowling the news he hides he was.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
Going, and it told me about couldn't run from the
paine no basic goal I had broken in my heart.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Went the chase and that phrase. The day out started.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Long face, my.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Face and sweet release.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Yeah it was over the day I started.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Got I want.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
Now Church are fast, you run, You're go get.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Sands with the table faces the games said, and you're
such a false sun thing.
Speaker 10 (21:23):
Look you just don't know what trying to fill the
whole abuney, but you just starting.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Days go on ring. Did you hit you hard?
Speaker 10 (21:37):
They're gonna tell you can't run from the page, no
place to go like that's worm.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
In your heart?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Qua chase.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
That not the raise there, I start, I want face.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
About peace.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And sweet Release. Yeah it was so word but they
start stop.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
I want now was sitting here and playing this so
we had no damn mother, just sleep being to She said,
no check just housing.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
That both made it, won't we were understand.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
Oh yeah we quit change we quit.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
And that gras and that until.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
We started to day.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
We start, we want grade, we want.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
About peace.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
We found face and sweet release.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Yeah it was so good day.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
We suffer want.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah, I started riding.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Last start to fight. I want.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
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Speaker 3 (23:47):
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Speaker 7 (24:42):
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Speaker 4 (25:07):
No, no no
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Ingling, hanging any names
Eric.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Are you a songwriter?
Speaker 3 (00:02):
Are you looking to turn your songwriting passion into a
full time gig gig? Whether you are just at the
start of your songwriting journey or a seasoned industry professional.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
This show is made for you.
Speaker 5 (00:13):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We would welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews,
and communicating. Now, welcome your host, Sarantos.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in tonight, and welcome
back to this Songwriter Show. I'm your humble host, Sronto,
So a solo music artist who's been writing lyrics for
as long as I can remember. Words just mean so
much to me, and that's why I love to host
this show for you every single Tuesday evening. I believe
in my heart that every song is a story. Tonight,
I am so excited to have Carly Ryder Sleeve on
(00:48):
the show. She's a New York based singer, songwriter, and
producer known for her captivating voice and masterful guitar skills.
She's a self taught multi instrumentalist. She's been immersed music
since childhood. She's taught herself drums, piano, bass, and guitar.
After gaining a significant following on YouTube, she's toured the US,
performing at iconic venues like Rough Trade and Grammarcy Theater.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Guest, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
You're very welcome. You've got kind of a cool story.
I guess the first thing I'm going to ask you is,
are you still in Europe?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I am, Yeah, I'm living right now, like kind of
more out east on Long Island, and it's more of
like a farm vibe, more farms and stuff. But I
lived in the city for a while, so just switched
it up.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
We're not going to get into what's better in New
York or Chicago. We won't talk about that. Tell us
a little bit about what's going on in your career
at the moment.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
A lot, honestly.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I have an EP that is not going to be
out until the spring, but I'm wrapping up the production
and the songwriting on the last few songs.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It'll be a six.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Song EP, and that's going to be my debut EP
under this project. And then my partner Morgan and I
her album Out of the Blue. I produced and wrote
all of that with her, So that's an awesome thing
that I got to work on in a bit of
a different genre too, more of like.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
A pop space. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
And obviously you guys didn't kill each other right working together.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
No, honestly, it's pretty good. But there's been moments where
it's tough, of course.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, that's like when you're when you're with someone you
love and all of a sudden you're at work together
and all of a sudden you're It just changes a
whole dynamic, right, you don't get any of that free
time you're with them twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, and it's a beautiful thing in a lot of
ways because having that like creative, collaborative work relationship just
adds like even more to you know, your connection. But yeah,
sometimes it's stressful. It's really hard to get that work
life balance perfect.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
So tell us about how you got started singing playing
your guitar. When did that start for you?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I started on the drums when I was I think fourteen,
and that was kind of my first.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Instrument that I learned.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I think I was just attracted to it because I
didn't have to sing. I was really shy growing up
and like didn't even really want to talk so singing
felt really out of reach for me, even though I
loved music. But then slowly I picked up other instruments
like guitar and bass and piano and all of that stuff,
And then lastly I started singing because I had to
kind of build up the confidence.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, and it's a different animal singing versus playing an instrument,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, it's just like a vulnerable thing to like write
lyrics and like also just singing like it feels like
so exposing. I don't know how to describe it. Like
I still struggle with it sometimes.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
It took me a long time. I feel like at
this point I can kind of get up and sing
anywhere I wanted, But it took me a long time
to get to this point. And even now I'm almost
a little envious Superstars because they have like a chorus
behind them backing them up. They have everybody doing layers
and thickening their vocals, and everything's auto tuned and most
(04:09):
of it is not even live singing. But we're not
like that. You know, if you're in a little dive bar,
then you have bad acoustics or the you're getting feedback
from the monitor. I mean, you just have to kind
of deal with it.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, it's totally like a different process, and there's definitely
like very difficult things about like you know, like a
pop star show that are totally different than that. But
I agree, like having to just sing in a room,
a small room, or sometimes even sing without a mic.
If I've done like stripped down shows like that, Like
that's it's intense.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, for sure. Tell us what your favorite instrument is,
if you could pick one.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I would definitely say the guitar. Yeah, I just like
love how it. I don't know, I love playing it.
I don't even have a reason. I just think it's
the best way to a company a voice. So that's
how I start most of my songs.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And how do you start your songwriting process.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I would it's either with the guitar part, and it
kind of like starts with like the chords. I'm really
like producing and arranging, and like I might even be
more into that than singing and songwriting. Like I just
love like building a world with instrumentals. But a lot
of times I'll also just get an idea, like a
(05:19):
lyric or. I'll be just like walking around and have
a little melody pop into my head to start a song,
So it's kind of a little bit different every time.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
When you look at your creative inspiration, is there one
place or something that really always does it for you?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I would say that like a lot of people. I
think a lot of artists struggle with this. It's easier
to write when you're you know, heartbroken or dealing.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
With something like heavy like that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So I think that that's where it comes out, like
it will just flow out of me really fast. But
recently because I've been in like a happier space, it's
just a lot of reflecting and I don't know, almost
doing like mental therapy and like figuring things out and
I'll put that into lyrics.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, how often do you write?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Honestly? Every day?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'm writing something every day or like working and producing something.
It's like takes up most of my day probably, Okay.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
That's fair enough. Yeah, do you prefer producing at this
point or writing? Or what's your biggest passion at this point?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think what I love and this is why I'm
having my own like project and doing my career for
myself is the combination of everything I love, even like
the visual end and like taking like pictures and doing
videos and like being creative in that way, So I
think I love the combination, but if I had to.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Really pick one, I would probably be producing.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I guess one of the questions I'd like to ask
a lot of guests on the shows about scams. Have
you followed for one? What can you warn us about
so we can all try to protect each other.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I feel like my parents were so intense growing up
about not falling for a scam, and I don't know why.
I think like maybe when they were like young parents,
they fell for like a minor scam. So I feel
like I was on high alert all the time, so
I haven't fallen for one myself. But like, honestly, it's
just about like double checking everything, Like I'm always researching
(07:11):
on the internet and using that to my I don't know.
It helps to just have the Internet to look things
up and figure out if it's.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Real or not. Doesn't take that long if you look
into it.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
And I think it's a huge advantage because you can
put someone's name in and then scam or just something
and otherwise have you know, I know, I can't even
imagine like years ago before the internet, you know, you
get like smooth talk by somebody that's going to be
a publisher, or oh hey, but you know, give me
some money up front, and just you just don't know
any better.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, I feel like it had to have been so
much scarier back in the day. But also I think
for people that are even just a little older than
like twenties and thirties, if they're not as savvy with
the Internet, it's probably much easier to fall into that too.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, for sure. Tell us about a musical risk that
you took that never paid off.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Hmm. I had like a phase.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I wouldn't say it never paid off, but I definitely
had a phase where when I was much younger. I
think starting off with the drums, I was just into
like a more rock, grungier thing, and I think like,
instrumentally I love that, but singing over it didn't really
work for me. But for a while I was like confused, like, oh,
I love producing more rock leaning stuff, but my vocal
(08:24):
won't fit.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Because my voice is kind of soft.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So I think that that is a risk that I
took that I didn't end up sticking with.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I guess is there like a person that is the
most surprising person to ever compliment your music? Or your
vocals or your songs.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know, there's not anyone that I can think of
off the top of my head, but I hope to
add to that down the line.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
All Right, if you could put together a dream team
for you and your partner, what would it be in
terms of band manager, just you know, any shoutouts or
anyone that you want to kind of talk about.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, let me think about this for a sec.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I mean, I like everyone think that like Jack Antonov
was just able to get something out of singer songwriters,
like the really honest take. So I think that it
would be cool to just like get in a room
with him and just experience that. And in terms of
band and players, I don't have anyone super specific, but
(09:25):
I'd love to eventually because right now I'm playing all
the instruments myself with Morgan, and I'd love to be
able to produce but have amazing players that were like
so proficient at their instruments and kind of like direct
them and.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Produce in that way. So down the line, I would
totally do that.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
So tell us about this song. We're going to hear
a words of wisdom about it. What inspired it? What
me to go out into the world.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, So that was a song that I was something
I was trying to hit that kind of tone for
a while because I had definitely had a couple experiences
in my life, like one of them is a romantic relationship,
and another one was a past manager, and then there's
also someone that Morgan and I are really close to
that's also in a kind of abusive, narcissistic relationship. And
(10:13):
I think that that song is just kind of combining
all of those things that I've experienced and talking about
it and kind.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Of like never I would I would never wish.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Harm upon someone because I like to be as peaceful and.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Loving as possible.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
But sometimes you're just hoping that karma will like bite someone,
you know, because the people that do horrible things and
that say mean things and kind of operate with a
bad attitude and a mean perspective. Like I don't know,
sometimes I hope that the world can I don't know,
figure it out.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
That's really where it came from.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Okay, well let's take a listen and we'll come back
and talk tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
A right, everybody, please check this out.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Bloom you only wear Sunday bass on do that serves you.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
You have like got so damn.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Plaus to breathe the same airs you to worshiped the
crown that you kept me on white upper tears when
you were.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
I mean you my everything.
Speaker 8 (11:37):
You never gave me anything.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Doesn't miss his bead.
Speaker 8 (11:42):
Fakes happen, bath pat.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
The bath faces happened.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Bad people.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
You think you.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
Having it all?
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Now your fota you're not so bad.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
You took my world, made your.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Far away from my family.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I swear to God stood no.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
But I've been struggling already. I worship the crown that
you kept me. Wait up tears when you were all,
I mean you might have beth.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
You never gave me anything.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Kind doesn't listens.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Perfect happened, bad keeple berfect happened. Bad people.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
You think you had it off.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Now your bad fat you have some bad.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Bad that's your food side can come aside, stomp all
nite the girls pol food side can come beside and
stomp all nights.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Come beside, Stop on girls, please him.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Because birthdays happened, bad people. Bath things happen, bad people.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
You think you have it all. Now you're about a
fault town.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
We can done some birth birthdays happened that people, birthdays
happened best people.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Thank you having your father faults, you don't.
Speaker 9 (13:55):
Have some that best.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
So thank you so much for sharing that song with us.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you for listening.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Welcome. So do you have like a favorite chord or
key that you find yourself coming back to time and
time again with your music?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Somewhere between like A and F sharp. I feel like
I'm always in, but I don't know why. I think
it's just maybe sits in my vocal range the best.
I don't know if bad things isn't that though.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Okay, it's funny. I routinely do like every single key
that I can. Probably about three years ago I realized,
I do you know the songs that I like? I
kind of analyze it. I was like, wow, my voice
does fit better and I do sound better in these
several keys save and I still try to do every
single key at least some cognizant and the fact that
(15:02):
I totally get that that totally makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, that's so interesting that you do that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I try to, like, you know, also move around with
the keys, especially on a body of work, because you
don't want to all this sound exactly the same, but
also I think more importantly, like if your voice sounds
good and like relatable and believable, that's probably the best thing.
So if that's it in a couple of keys, that's okay.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
So when you look at twenty twenty five, do you
have something like a surprise coming for the fans later
in the year that you want to maybe give us
a little hint about.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I believe I'll be doing some sort of collaboration, maybe
a song with Morgan. We've been like really wanting to
do like two songs together almost like how like a
single back in the day would have an A and
a B side. So yeah, I think we're we think
we're going to try to do that in the new year.
But in case it doesn't happen, don't help me do it.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Do you have a favorite nineties Jim.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Like a movie or TV show.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Or about both? I was speaking like a song, but yeah, oh, songs.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean that's basically the only time period I listened to,
not the only one, but it's one of my favorites.
I love Jeff Buckley, that's like a huge influence of mine.
A lot of like the early Radiohead albums. Definitely, there
was a lot of great kind of like mere singer
songwriters at that time too, So probably the first one's
(16:24):
coming to my mind is Jeff Buckley, so I'll just
stick with that.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
If you could have lunch for dinner with a famous songwriter,
living or dead, who would it be and what would
you ask them?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I think recently I've just been really admiring Joni Mitchell's
lyrics and just how much they put you in her head,
in her world. So I think at this point in time,
i'd probably say her just to like pick her brain
about how she gets to that place lyrically.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
If there was a tattoo that could represent your music,
what would it be?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
And why?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh, that is such a cool question, I try. I
sit up lated thinking about cool question that is really cool.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I would probably say some sort of something with a wing,
like maybe like a butterfly. I that sounds really basic
of me to say, but I really love of them
growing up and how gentle they are, but like complex
in the wings, and I feel like that's reminds me
of my music. I love making intricate parts with the instrumental,
but I'd still like it to feel soft.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yeah, I I totally get that. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Do you have a go to comfort food that is
your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yes, it is pesto pasta. That's my favorite.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I feel like you got to make a T shirt
p square or something like that. You got to write
a song, you got to write a song about that.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I know, that's really funny that it's two piece.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Has there ever been a song pesta pasta? I don't
think so.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I don't think so. It would be a first.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
So yeah, I should totally do that. That's that's cool idea. Yeah,
what was your first job growing up?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
My first job was at this Vanderbilt estate.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's like down the street from where my parents' house is,
and I worked at the planetarium, so it was kind
of cool. I really like space growing up, so I
was excited to work there when I was a teenager.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
That's awesome. I still love space at that's a cool job.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yeah, Yeah, it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And it's just like being in there and like just
looking up at the stars, like I don't know, it
feels really cool.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
So I was glad I got to do that.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, And I think growing up I lost track of
how many times I went to the Planetarium, the Museum
Assciencing Industry in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
You know, I've never been to Chicago, so I'll have
to check those out when I go.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Oh. Absolutely, Chicago's a great city, not just because we
have great food. We got a lot of cool shit
to do around here, so you definitely have to come.
So where can our fans find your stuff?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Stream it, listen to it everywhere.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
My name's carly ryders Sleeve and it's spelt with an E,
the Carly and anywhere you listen to music.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Literally awesome.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Well, I want to thank you so much for being
on the show tonight.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me. It was
fun to chat.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, so thank you again to all the fans out
there for being a part of our show tonight. If
you're an artist and you want to be on the show,
just head over to Songwritershow dot com and fill out
the interview request for him. If you're a fan, thank
you so much for spending a little bit of your
precious time with the two of us tonight. I'm Simantos,
and I hope you join me every single Tuesday evening
as we continue to uncover the inspiring journeys behind the music.
(19:35):
Here's to creating, connecting, and letting our stories be heard.
Until then, keep writing and we'll see you. On the
next episode of The Songwriter Sean Reality Radio one to one,
have a great night. I love you all, I was writing.
They never seemed to end. Chasing shadows ground ever been?
We sing the sod A least I could win. I
didn't stop from.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
Me then, But when have I been?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I was written down away, good, up the road.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
She said that retreating at Jordan, wad of gold.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Had the pat to the men and I couldn't slow down.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
But the faster I was delivered before I was losing around.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
When he was bowling the news he hides he was.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
Going, and it told me about couldn't run from the
paine no basic goal I had broken in my heart.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Went the chase and that phrase. The day out started.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Long face, my.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Face and sweet release.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Yeah it was over the day I started.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Got I want.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
Now Church are fast, you run, You're go get.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Sands with the table faces the games said, and you're
such a false sun thing.
Speaker 10 (21:23):
Look you just don't know what trying to fill the
whole abuney, but you just starting.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Days go on ring. Did you hit you hard?
Speaker 10 (21:37):
They're gonna tell you can't run from the page, no
place to go like that's worm.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
In your heart?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Qua chase.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
That not the raise there, I start, I want face.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
About peace.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And sweet Release. Yeah it was so word but they
start stop.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
I want now was sitting here and playing this so
we had no damn mother, just sleep being to She said,
no check just housing.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
That both made it, won't we were understand.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
Oh yeah we quit change we quit.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
And that gras and that until.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
We started to day.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
We start, we want grade, we want.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
About peace.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
We found face and sweet release.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Yeah it was so good day.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
We suffer want.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah, I started riding.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Last start to fight. I want.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Thank you for listening to the Songwriter Show. To keep
the momental going, head over to www Dot songwriter show
dot com and joined our free music community of artists,
songwriters and producers.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
That's www.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Dot songwriter Show dot com.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Any anything, any any n.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
No, no no
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Ingling, hanging any names
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