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Are you a songwriter? Are youlooking to turn your songwriting fashion into a
full time gig. Whether you arejust at the start of your songwriting journey
or a seasoned industry professional, thisshow is made for you. Welcome to
the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews and communitating. Now
(00:21):
welcome your host, Sorranto. Thankyou for tuning in, and welcome back
to the Songwriter Show right here onReality Radio one to one. I'm your
host, Serrantos, a solo musicartist who's been writing lyrics forever. Words
mean the world to me, andthat's where I'm thrilled to host this show
for you every single Tuesday evening.I believe in my heart that every song
(00:43):
is a story. Tonight we havean exciting guest, Dilvin. Growing up
in San Clemente, California, Dilvinperformed on stage from a very young age.
After graduating, his friend's encourage himto pursue music, where he began
channeling his emotions into songwriting. Twentytwenty releases first single, Dust of Love,
which saw some success across socials,proving that there was an audience for
(01:04):
his music. In twenty twenty one, he released his debut album, Falling
Far From Home, a collection ofsongs that dive into his personal life,
experiences and heartbreak. After spending sometime in the studio, in early twenty
twenty two, he released Drunk onDrugs, which has garnered five point five
million views across TikTok and Instagram,once again proving there's a space and audience
(01:25):
for his music. And now welcomethis week's special guest. Welcome to Shell
Dilvan. How you doing, Man, What up, Torontos? How are
you doing? Thanks for having meon. Welcome. Man's got a kind
of a cool story. How youngwere you when you started performing or doing
this thing? Well, the youngestI had been when I started performing was
(01:47):
second grade. I did a littletalent show and then after that I was
kind of scared. After I didthat, it was fun, but like
I would say, when I reallystarted, it was about three years ago
when I had started taking guitar lessons, I kind of really started falling in
love again with performing. I alwaysloved singing, and then I met a
(02:10):
couple people that lived in Sanclementy thatwe're already in the music space. That
kind of gave me that that pushto like believe that music could be a
real thing. You know. Yeah, that's important. Yeah, I was
in I remember grammar school. Iwas petrified to do I wanted to and
I did some like live shows andall sorts of plays. But man,
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that's good for you that you didthat from an early age. That's so
sick. It's so it's so interesting, like when you're at that point in
life, it's not like necessarily thecool thing, so you're like so self
conscious about it all, but thenit is cool. How like when you
turn a certain age and meet peoplethat have been through it, it gives
you that like, you know,no one really gives a crap, you
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know. Yeah, And I thinkat the end of the day, we're
all who we are, and growingup people are like what do you mean
you want to do? Like actingor singing? Like what's your real job?
And I feel like that bias mightbe a little bit better nowadays,
but it's still there. I thinkthere is an undercurrent. I mean,
I anytime I go to a familyfunction or to something that I haven't or
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like somewhere where I haven't seen someonein a while, they'll always kind of
give that like how's music going youknow, not like how's it going,
how's the grind going? Like whenhow's this It's kind of like they have
this thing in the back of theirmind where they're like they have no belief,
and even though they act like theydo. It's like, you know,
let me, let me show youwhat's up, you know, and
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then they're like, but you know, it's a Well. It's funny because
the way they're asking you is almostlike they're they're wanting you to say,
oh, yeah, I gave thatup because I failed. That's kind of
the implication, right, no,yeah, one hundred percent. And that's
what's crazy too, because I've noticedthere's like a couple of trigger words that
like maybe make them believe that thatspecific answer isn't gonna happen when you say
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like, oh, I'm going ona tour, or like oh, a
label reached out or something, andalthough that necessarily doesn't even mean that much
in terms of that, that likesuddenly triggers them to be like, wow,
this is a real thing. Youknow. Yeah, I'm in a
different space. But it's interesting becausethey pretty much always expect me to say,
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oh, it was like a midlifecrisis, I gave it up whatever.
But instead I'm just being honest andall I really say is I'm still
working hard, trying to get betterwith my singing, my vocals, my
melody, my lyrics, and youcould tell who's genuine. Right. Some
people are like, oh, goodfor you man, like I wish I
was chasing my dream. But somepeople you could tell they have venom behind
their eyes. Man, yeah,one hundred percent, dude. I think
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that's a great, straight up answerthat I gotta continue to use because I
tend to go off and just becauseI love music so much, I'll just
continuous explain myself, you know.And you should torture them, man,
that's great. Give them a halfour diatribe about and ask them their opinion.
Be like, you know, I'mthinking about this, but would you,
(05:10):
you know, just torture the shitout of them? Oh I love
that, dude. I like that'swhat we call it. When I like
show a bunch of people all mydemos and stuff. I'm like, thanks
for I get like the fourth song, I realized like I'm torturing them and
they're like, no, keep going. I'm like, all right, fine,
that's awesome. So what tell usabout your instrument? Is it your
voice? Do you play an instrument? What's your instrument? I definitely,
(05:32):
I think my main instrument is myvoice, for sure. I definitely.
I started on the YUK, justlearned a couple of chords I learned to
play one day by Matisyaho, andthen from there on I would like start
singing other songs I knew on thosechords and I'm like, oh crap.
And then I always just stayed onthose chords and it was always a good
(05:54):
way for me to kind of likeyou know, practice singing or besides like
being in the car and stuff.But as things kind of progressed, I
realized, like, you know,like my voice can go a lot farther
than I thought it would I thoughtit could, and just by being myself,
you know, and kind of expressingyou know, melodies or certain ways
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of talking about things in that inthat sense and not given too much of
a shit, you know, Yeah, I think you hit on something that
I don't think most people ever realized. I have found much more success just
being myself and not trying to singlike you know, like Eddie Mercury or
George Michael or all these different It'slike you got to realize you have your
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vocal box and your nose, yourthroat, everything's made your way, and
I think it's just about getting bettermelodies. That's what I've kind of realized.
Oh yeah, dude, it's it'snuts. Like as soon as uh,
because I mean the first session orwhen I had first gone into a
session to make my first song,I had told my friend Jolia, I'm
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like, hey, hey, Iwant to you know, make it like
this vibe or like do this,and he would kind of give me like
this look like oh okay for sure, and I knew it was like,
yo, we're not going to tryto be someone else, you know,
yeah, And he really like youknow, pushed me to just be myself,
which was so so huge and criticalin terms of my growth and melody
(07:26):
wise. Though, Like as soonas someone told me like, yo,
whatever you're trying to say right here, it's coming from your subconscious I just
like took off with that concept inand like would just try to find whatever
I was trying to say in mymumbles or whatever I was vibing with whenever,
you know, a guitar would comeon or a certain beat someone would
send, and then that really liketook my writing process to another level,
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I feel because it it took offa certain weight off my shoulders, feeling
like I had to write a certainsong. You know. It's like,
yo, let me express how myweird mind works, because everyone's mind works
differently and you don't ever need tocompare it to other people's, you know,
And even though it comes and goes, because you know, not gonna
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lie. Sometimes I'll see a songI'll be like, Damn, I wish
I created that one. I wasso sick and I just get tied to
it for like weeks, and Ifeel like that's what helps with you know,
inspiration too, you know, absolutely, man, I totally agree with
you. So tell us what famousmusicians do you admire, respect look up
to. Well, I think Ialways ever since I was a kid,
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I listened to a shit ton ofblank quantity, to Bob Marley, Bob
Dylan, and as I got older, I really just transition into finding I
don't know just so much new musicand I love listening to post Malone and
(09:01):
MGK. I listened to a lotof The Killers too back in the day,
and I would say, yeah,I think it's such It's a plethora
of musicians, and I think whenpeople ask me what type of genre I
do or something, I always amlike, it's like a vibe of so
many different influences I have. Ifeel like everyone I listened to is at
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the spot they're at because they werethemselves and have their own voice, and
they kind of had like this breakthroughof you know, of something different.
And one artist or band I leftout was Revolution. That was like my
big thing in high school. Itwas that or Yeah that or Blink twenty
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two and post Malone for sure.Okay, tell us about this song we're
gonna hear. What do you wantto take away from it? Would inspired
it tell them stories? Well,I think the main thing to take away
from that is don't take life soso seriously. Live life to the fullest,
and I always get caught and youknow, moments of worrying that a
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moment will be gone and the nextday. I like nostalgia hits. HiT's
really hard, and I want tostress the importance of like, you know,
not you know, not giving toomuch of a shit about life and
being there in the moment. It'sa cool message, man. All right,
let's take a listen. Then we'llcome back and talk. Okay,
thank you, Yeah for sure,It's cool. All right, everybody check
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this out. Here we go,Dovin. I'm gonna go out of wind
blow with me. Find a coupleof people that I know me, and
we can make a couple of goodstories. When I died, don't cry
tell them for me. Having aboutthe time it was in my frenzies.
I wish you could have seen mewhen dreams soft for me before I blacked
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out. Someone kids my cheat.He didn't know that girl, but a
man know me, and it's comingHeason. Wedding season didn't need a reason.
I'm a people. Please, arepleasing people follow in the feeling.
Yeah, skinny dipping. It don'tfeel like June. I can see it
through a shut and I know youwant me to ye oh me, oh
my, these knights feel like neverbefore the first time, and bad things
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make good time. Oh. I'mgonna go where the wind blow me find
a couple of people that know me, because we can make a couple of
good stories when I die, don'tcontell for me. He even when the
dreaming let me lonely roll the melodies. I feel holy when I die,
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don't cross share for me. Brotherdilemmas are letting me on stage. There's
a girl in the front and ahoney back stage. When they different kinds
are pretty but want me the sameway, I'll send them both the addy
and see what we can arrange.Like crazy, how I'm drunk, but
I keep my You say like Iknew that I'm blessed. I'm reminded every
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day. Oh me, oh my, these knights feel like never for the
first time. Bad things make agood time. So I'm gonna go where
the wind blow me. Find acouple of people that know me. Then
we can make a couple of goodstories. When I die, don't go
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tell for me, even when theteam and let me lonely. I wrote
the melodies I feel holy when Idie, don't cross sham for me.
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These nights dreaming ballasts way back.Fella sleeps a little with no guys.
I can't give up on my dreamto read life. Tell for me.
I'm going to see the whole worldmean that and only when that sound great?
Hey, Dad, that was acool viby song, Dude, I
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much respect, Thank you so much, dude. I that one definitely holds
a lot of weight in my heart. I think it has a cool message
that differentiates from a lot of myother songs. You know, a lot
of the other stuff beforehand was soheartbreak, you know, bullshit, but
this is like the the like yo, I get you know, I'm gonna
take this music thing to another tohold another like level and kind of explain
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how I feel at this moment,you know, speaking of taking things to
another level and explaining how you feel. I'm an eighties child, so I
overuse the word dude, except inprofessional settence, so it seems like you're
like a brother in that regard.Do you get shipped for that? Sometimes
people are like like why do youkeep saying dude? And I've cut it
compared to HI used to use itwhen I was a teenager or college.
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But in my heart, I like, dude, do debt. I'm that
kind of guy. I guess I'mliterally stopping myself from saying dude as I'm
like saying that. But I thinklike anytime I get shipped for it is
from someone in my family who's likeout of state, and they'll be like,
dude, like when do you whatare you saying all your accent or
like this or like my friend thatI met in Australia came over and he's
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just like looking at me. Funnybecause I keep saying it, or I
accidentally called my mom Theresa, orI accidentally called her that. Sometimes when
I'm like, dude, did youhear this? And I'm like, oh,
I just called you dude, I'mlike, oh, my goodness.
Yeah. But it's funny, though, no, I feel that for sure.
It's also way. I have agreat memory, but I'm not good
with names until someone is like prettymuch like a really good friend. Then
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I actually remember their name. Soit's another I think when I was younger,
cover up for just saying, dude, you don't have to remember their
name. Yeah, And then likeI feel like at a certain point in
life too, like when you saythat and when they say your name,
like when they're like Dylan, andthen I'm like, oh what up,
dude, and They're like this guydefinitely doesn't remember my name. I'm like,
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fun yeah, but it's funny becausepeople that are close to me,
they know sometimes when someone starts talkingto you and if I don't introduce them,
it means I don't remember their names. So they kind of politely I'm
like, Hi, I'm you knowso and so Maria, and it just
kind of takes the onus off me. Oh yeah, that's classic guy.
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Yeah, I feel that for sure. We had issues. Man, I'm
flawed, so I think we're allflawed. And that's probably a good title
for a song too. Oh thatis a good song, dude. That's
funny that you're saying that, becauseI like, I'll go throughout or certain
times throughout a day like where somephrase will come up like that, and
then you're like, damn, thatwould be a good way to like,
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you know, start a song off, and that I think that's what's cool.
Like when people ask probably you orlike even myself, where it's like
how do you start a song off? And I think it can there is
like maybe your comfortable way of doingthings, but I think it's so cool
when like it starts in another way, So like even that particular way you
know that you're talking about like songname first and then you go about that.
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Yeah, that's crazy. I thinkalso to most songwriters I've talked to,
and you're probably in this group too, everyone keeps a journal for when
you're kind of stuck, but you'renever really stuck because I my problem is
I don't know what in the worldto release. Like if I ever had
a label, they would look atthe three thousand songs say that's a winner,
that's a lose, because there's justso much. And like you said,
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every day I'll email myself like eighttitles to songs and little lines everywhere.
And the funniest thing in the worldis my note list has grown tremendously.
I haven't used those lines to writea song in months, So I
have these really cool lines. Youknow, you hear a line in a
song, or you see a busad or something, but it's just there's
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content overload, you know. No, Yeah, I think it's so tough
sometimes for me too, because likewhen like we're deciding like what to release
next, like especially now, it'stough because I like, if it was
my like choice, I would Imean, it's probably not the best choice,
but just release them all. Andyou know, because I always,
(17:26):
like I get like the importance ofyou know, promoting it and doing all
that, but I cannot wait tolike show people when I'm with them,
and I feel like that's what Iwould that's what I chase the most,
or like when I started doing thisthing, I was like so caught up
or stressed on, like how's itgoing to happen again? You know?
And I think I think that likewhen I'd be like I'm stuck, But
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like you said, I don't thinkyou're ever really stuck, especially creatively.
I think there are funks, youknow that when you're not in the right
headspace, you can maybe you know, yeah, stretchers about when you're like
feeling like you're writing for the wrongreasons, you know, and not doing
it because you love it, becausethat's why we do it, you know.
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Yeah, And I think I understandas I've gotten older, the importance
of an awesome manager, an awesometeam, and awesome and even label,
which you know, they get alot of crap because what they do is
they help focus things and they doresearch and they say, hey, these
people they hate that song or theylove the course, but they hate the
and it's more like making it readyfor the masses. And sometimes it doesn't
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mean it loses its message. Itjust means, you know, you could
be stuck on a line and belike, oh, that's such a cool
slur, that's such a cool Idrop off the Cliff there and people are
like, I hate that. Yeah, yeah, So tell us a little
bit about what you have coming outfor the fans this year, and he
surprised us. So I think afterbecause I just release the EP, I
(18:59):
think we're going to come out witha acoustic song or I mean it's not
all acoustic, but definitely acoustic basswith some you know, a cool light
production around it that I really love. I think it has a really cool
message behind that. And other thanthat, we have tons of music ready
(19:21):
to release. I think what Ireally want to do is start playing a
lot more shows and you know,fiddling with playing the new stuff that I
haven't released yet and see what reallywhat really hits and then kind of go
from there on that. But inthe back line of that, we do
have plans to release you know,music every every you know month or so,
(19:42):
with you know, all the stuffthat we think is the strongest,
but you never know what the strongestis, you know. I think like
for me, I feel like Itie my feelings to each song in such
a unique way that I love themall like equally depending on how I'm feeling.
So I could listen to a songthat I thought was my favorite yesterday
(20:03):
and then like if I'm not safe, I'm feeling like I'm not sad or
something, and then I listened toa happy song. I like, you
know, I guess you can kindof tie feelings to both of them because
you can be like, oh,at least I'm out of this runt and
I'm like thinking of this and I'mlike, damn, this helped me,
you know. Yeah, absolutely,I get you. So tell us about
your website, your socios. Wherecan people buy your stuff, stream and
(20:25):
support you? So? Yeah,everything from TikTok, Instagram. My website's
got a little bit of merch onit. And I think I'm on every
platform. Who knows with how manyplatforms are being created nowadays, but I
try to stay in the loop witheverything. Yeah, I think. I
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mean you can get it on Spotifyis everything. I think it should be
on everything. If it's not DMI, I'll send you the specific drop box,
like if that'll help. Yeah,awesome, man. Well, I
want to thank you so much forbeing on the show build and it was
a blast. Man. I'd loveto have you on again anytime. Yeah.
Hell yeah, that was amazing Torontos. I think, yeah, that
(21:10):
was awesome, dude, Thank youso much. You're welcome, man,
So tell the fans out there thankyou for spending a few of your precious
moments with the two of us.We sincerely appreciate it. My name is
Torontos. Please join me every Tuesdaynight to your other amazing artists shore.
They're fascinating behind the scenes, lookat their lives right here on the Songwriter
Show on Reality Radio one oh oneand a great night. I love you
(21:30):
all, sign you divorce papers,but I'm so excited. No more wasted
my good day song you riding inthe open highway and I'm not near side
(21:59):
nomorrow, wasting my dreams on you. I'm bigger than this, and I'm
better than this. I'm bigger thanyou, and I'm better than you.
I don't want to waste my prettyon you. I don't let your hunting
another bite. You're no more wondering. If you're speaking truth tonight, You're
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not gonna keep me out from thebight that my life is father. Happy
accidents to the left, to theright, Happy accidents, happy accidents,
all day, every day, Happyaccidents, happy accidents. Year say,
(23:00):
happy accidents, happy accidents. Theymake my yea, happy accidents. You
still dance with dynamite, It's true. But I'm done wasting my energy on
(23:26):
you both. You hate to loveme, love to hate me. Next
dooy I quit it too, ButI'm not coming back wasting my soul on
you. I'm bigger than this,and I'm better than this. I'm bigger
than you, and I'm better thanyou. I don't want to waste my
(23:49):
praiaity. I don't at your hut. Take another bite, No more wondering.
If you're speaking truth tonight, You'renot gonna keep me out from the
light. My life is father.Happy accidents to the left, to the
(24:14):
right, happy asked does happy askedus? All day every day, Happy
asadas day, happy ass he happyASTs, happy askedas they make my day.
(24:47):
Happy accidents. There's a rainbow aboutthat. That's where I can see
and just oh you love not myfavorite colors. I'm tuning out the world.
I'm tuning to me. Happy accidents. To the left, to the
(25:15):
right, happy accidents. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah yeah. Happy accidents all dayevery day, Happy accidents. Yeah yeah,
happy accidents, happy accdents. Yeayea yea. Happy accidents. They
(25:45):
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Are you a songwriter? Are youlooking to turn your songwriting fashion into a
full time gig. Whether you arejust at the start of your songwriting journey
or a seasoned industry professional, thisshow is made for you. Welcome to
the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews and communitating. Now
(00:21):
welcome your host, Sorranto. Thankyou for tuning in, and welcome back
to the Songwriter Show right here onReality Radio one to one. I'm your
host, Serrantos, a solo musicartist who's been writing lyrics forever. Words
mean the world to me, andthat's where I'm thrilled to host this show
for you every single Tuesday evening.I believe in my heart that every song
(00:43):
is a story. Tonight we havean exciting guest, Dilvin. Growing up
in San Clemente, California, Dilvinperformed on stage from a very young age.
After graduating, his friend's encourage himto pursue music, where he began
channeling his emotions into songwriting. Twentytwenty releases first single, Dust of Love,
which saw some success across socials,proving that there was an audience for
(01:04):
his music. In twenty twenty one, he released his debut album, Falling
Far From Home, a collection ofsongs that dive into his personal life,
experiences and heartbreak. After spending sometime in the studio, in early twenty
twenty two, he released Drunk onDrugs, which has garnered five point five
million views across TikTok and Instagram,once again proving there's a space and audience
(01:25):
for his music. And now welcomethis week's special guest. Welcome to Shell
Dilvan. How you doing, Man, What up, Torontos? How are
you doing? Thanks for having meon. Welcome. Man's got a kind
of a cool story. How youngwere you when you started performing or doing
this thing? Well, the youngestI had been when I started performing was
(01:47):
second grade. I did a littletalent show and then after that I was
kind of scared. After I didthat, it was fun, but like
I would say, when I reallystarted, it was about three years ago
when I had started taking guitar lessons, I kind of really started falling in
love again with performing. I alwaysloved singing, and then I met a
(02:10):
couple people that lived in Sanclementy thatwe're already in the music space. That
kind of gave me that that pushto like believe that music could be a
real thing. You know. Yeah, that's important. Yeah, I was
in I remember grammar school. Iwas petrified to do I wanted to and
I did some like live shows andall sorts of plays. But man,
(02:30):
that's good for you that you didthat from an early age. That's so
sick. It's so it's so interesting, like when you're at that point in
life, it's not like necessarily thecool thing, so you're like so self
conscious about it all, but thenit is cool. How like when you
turn a certain age and meet peoplethat have been through it, it gives
you that like, you know,no one really gives a crap, you
(02:53):
know. Yeah, And I thinkat the end of the day, we're
all who we are, and growingup people are like what do you mean
you want to do? Like actingor singing? Like what's your real job?
And I feel like that bias mightbe a little bit better nowadays,
but it's still there. I thinkthere is an undercurrent. I mean,
I anytime I go to a familyfunction or to something that I haven't or
(03:15):
like somewhere where I haven't seen someonein a while, they'll always kind of
give that like how's music going youknow, not like how's it going,
how's the grind going? Like whenhow's this It's kind of like they have
this thing in the back of theirmind where they're like they have no belief,
and even though they act like theydo. It's like, you know,
let me, let me show youwhat's up, you know, and
(03:37):
then they're like, but you know, it's a Well. It's funny because
the way they're asking you is almostlike they're they're wanting you to say,
oh, yeah, I gave thatup because I failed. That's kind of
the implication, right, no,yeah, one hundred percent. And that's
what's crazy too, because I've noticedthere's like a couple of trigger words that
like maybe make them believe that thatspecific answer isn't gonna happen when you say
(04:01):
like, oh, I'm going ona tour, or like oh, a
label reached out or something, andalthough that necessarily doesn't even mean that much
in terms of that, that likesuddenly triggers them to be like, wow,
this is a real thing. Youknow. Yeah, I'm in a
different space. But it's interesting becausethey pretty much always expect me to say,
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oh, it was like a midlifecrisis, I gave it up whatever.
But instead I'm just being honest andall I really say is I'm still
working hard, trying to get betterwith my singing, my vocals, my
melody, my lyrics, and youcould tell who's genuine. Right. Some
people are like, oh, goodfor you man, like I wish I
was chasing my dream. But somepeople you could tell they have venom behind
their eyes. Man, yeah,one hundred percent, dude. I think
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that's a great, straight up answerthat I gotta continue to use because I
tend to go off and just becauseI love music so much, I'll just
continuous explain myself, you know.And you should torture them, man,
that's great. Give them a halfour diatribe about and ask them their opinion.
Be like, you know, I'mthinking about this, but would you,
(05:10):
you know, just torture the shitout of them? Oh I love
that, dude. I like that'swhat we call it. When I like
show a bunch of people all mydemos and stuff. I'm like, thanks
for I get like the fourth song, I realized like I'm torturing them and
they're like, no, keep going. I'm like, all right, fine,
that's awesome. So what tell usabout your instrument? Is it your
voice? Do you play an instrument? What's your instrument? I definitely,
(05:32):
I think my main instrument is myvoice, for sure. I definitely.
I started on the YUK, justlearned a couple of chords I learned to
play one day by Matisyaho, andthen from there on I would like start
singing other songs I knew on thosechords and I'm like, oh crap.
And then I always just stayed onthose chords and it was always a good
(05:54):
way for me to kind of likeyou know, practice singing or besides like
being in the car and stuff.But as things kind of progressed, I
realized, like, you know,like my voice can go a lot farther
than I thought it would I thoughtit could, and just by being myself,
you know, and kind of expressingyou know, melodies or certain ways
(06:15):
of talking about things in that inthat sense and not given too much of
a shit, you know, Yeah, I think you hit on something that
I don't think most people ever realized. I have found much more success just
being myself and not trying to singlike you know, like Eddie Mercury or
George Michael or all these different It'slike you got to realize you have your
(06:38):
vocal box and your nose, yourthroat, everything's made your way, and
I think it's just about getting bettermelodies. That's what I've kind of realized.
Oh yeah, dude, it's it'snuts. Like as soon as uh,
because I mean the first session orwhen I had first gone into a
session to make my first song,I had told my friend Jolia, I'm
(06:59):
like, hey, hey, Iwant to you know, make it like
this vibe or like do this,and he would kind of give me like
this look like oh okay for sure, and I knew it was like,
yo, we're not going to tryto be someone else, you know,
yeah, And he really like youknow, pushed me to just be myself,
which was so so huge and criticalin terms of my growth and melody
(07:26):
wise. Though, Like as soonas someone told me like, yo,
whatever you're trying to say right here, it's coming from your subconscious I just
like took off with that concept inand like would just try to find whatever
I was trying to say in mymumbles or whatever I was vibing with whenever,
you know, a guitar would comeon or a certain beat someone would
send, and then that really liketook my writing process to another level,
(07:48):
I feel because it it took offa certain weight off my shoulders, feeling
like I had to write a certainsong. You know. It's like,
yo, let me express how myweird mind works, because everyone's mind works
differently and you don't ever need tocompare it to other people's, you know,
And even though it comes and goes, because you know, not gonna
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lie. Sometimes I'll see a songI'll be like, Damn, I wish
I created that one. I wasso sick and I just get tied to
it for like weeks, and Ifeel like that's what helps with you know,
inspiration too, you know, absolutely, man, I totally agree with
you. So tell us what famousmusicians do you admire, respect look up
to. Well, I think Ialways ever since I was a kid,
(08:39):
I listened to a shit ton ofblank quantity, to Bob Marley, Bob
Dylan, and as I got older, I really just transition into finding I
don't know just so much new musicand I love listening to post Malone and
(09:01):
MGK. I listened to a lotof The Killers too back in the day,
and I would say, yeah,I think it's such It's a plethora
of musicians, and I think whenpeople ask me what type of genre I
do or something, I always amlike, it's like a vibe of so
many different influences I have. Ifeel like everyone I listened to is at
(09:26):
the spot they're at because they werethemselves and have their own voice, and
they kind of had like this breakthroughof you know, of something different.
And one artist or band I leftout was Revolution. That was like my
big thing in high school. Itwas that or Yeah that or Blink twenty
(09:48):
two and post Malone for sure.Okay, tell us about this song we're
gonna hear. What do you wantto take away from it? Would inspired
it tell them stories? Well,I think the main thing to take away
from that is don't take life soso seriously. Live life to the fullest,
and I always get caught and youknow, moments of worrying that a
(10:13):
moment will be gone and the nextday. I like nostalgia hits. HiT's
really hard, and I want tostress the importance of like, you know,
not you know, not giving toomuch of a shit about life and
being there in the moment. It'sa cool message, man. All right,
let's take a listen. Then we'llcome back and talk. Okay,
thank you, Yeah for sure,It's cool. All right, everybody check
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this out. Here we go,Dovin. I'm gonna go out of wind
blow with me. Find a coupleof people that I know me, and
we can make a couple of goodstories. When I died, don't cry
tell them for me. Having aboutthe time it was in my frenzies.
I wish you could have seen mewhen dreams soft for me before I blacked
(10:54):
out. Someone kids my cheat.He didn't know that girl, but a
man know me, and it's comingHeason. Wedding season didn't need a reason.
I'm a people. Please, arepleasing people follow in the feeling.
Yeah, skinny dipping. It don'tfeel like June. I can see it
through a shut and I know youwant me to ye oh me, oh
my, these knights feel like neverbefore the first time, and bad things
(11:16):
make good time. Oh. I'mgonna go where the wind blow me find
a couple of people that know me, because we can make a couple of
good stories when I die, don'tcontell for me. He even when the
dreaming let me lonely roll the melodies. I feel holy when I die,
(11:39):
don't cross share for me. Brotherdilemmas are letting me on stage. There's
a girl in the front and ahoney back stage. When they different kinds
are pretty but want me the sameway, I'll send them both the addy
and see what we can arrange.Like crazy, how I'm drunk, but
I keep my You say like Iknew that I'm blessed. I'm reminded every
(12:05):
day. Oh me, oh my, these knights feel like never for the
first time. Bad things make agood time. So I'm gonna go where
the wind blow me. Find acouple of people that know me. Then
we can make a couple of goodstories. When I die, don't go
(12:26):
tell for me, even when theteam and let me lonely. I wrote
the melodies I feel holy when Idie, don't cross sham for me.
(12:50):
These nights dreaming ballasts way back.Fella sleeps a little with no guys.
I can't give up on my dreamto read life. Tell for me.
I'm going to see the whole worldmean that and only when that sound great?
Hey, Dad, that was acool viby song, Dude, I
(13:20):
much respect, Thank you so much, dude. I that one definitely holds
a lot of weight in my heart. I think it has a cool message
that differentiates from a lot of myother songs. You know, a lot
of the other stuff beforehand was soheartbreak, you know, bullshit, but
this is like the the like yo, I get you know, I'm gonna
take this music thing to another tohold another like level and kind of explain
(13:46):
how I feel at this moment,you know, speaking of taking things to
another level and explaining how you feel. I'm an eighties child, so I
overuse the word dude, except inprofessional settence, so it seems like you're
like a brother in that regard.Do you get shipped for that? Sometimes
people are like like why do youkeep saying dude? And I've cut it
compared to HI used to use itwhen I was a teenager or college.
(14:09):
But in my heart, I like, dude, do debt. I'm that
kind of guy. I guess I'mliterally stopping myself from saying dude as I'm
like saying that. But I thinklike anytime I get shipped for it is
from someone in my family who's likeout of state, and they'll be like,
dude, like when do you whatare you saying all your accent or
like this or like my friend thatI met in Australia came over and he's
(14:33):
just like looking at me. Funnybecause I keep saying it, or I
accidentally called my mom Theresa, orI accidentally called her that. Sometimes when
I'm like, dude, did youhear this? And I'm like, oh,
I just called you dude, I'mlike, oh, my goodness.
Yeah. But it's funny, though, no, I feel that for sure.
It's also way. I have agreat memory, but I'm not good
with names until someone is like prettymuch like a really good friend. Then
(14:54):
I actually remember their name. Soit's another I think when I was younger,
cover up for just saying, dude, you don't have to remember their
name. Yeah, And then likeI feel like at a certain point in
life too, like when you saythat and when they say your name,
like when they're like Dylan, andthen I'm like, oh what up,
dude, and They're like this guydefinitely doesn't remember my name. I'm like,
(15:16):
fun yeah, but it's funny becausepeople that are close to me,
they know sometimes when someone starts talkingto you and if I don't introduce them,
it means I don't remember their names. So they kind of politely I'm
like, Hi, I'm you knowso and so Maria, and it just
kind of takes the onus off me. Oh yeah, that's classic guy.
(15:39):
Yeah, I feel that for sure. We had issues. Man, I'm
flawed, so I think we're allflawed. And that's probably a good title
for a song too. Oh thatis a good song, dude. That's
funny that you're saying that, becauseI like, I'll go throughout or certain
times throughout a day like where somephrase will come up like that, and
then you're like, damn, thatwould be a good way to like,
(16:00):
you know, start a song off, and that I think that's what's cool.
Like when people ask probably you orlike even myself, where it's like
how do you start a song off? And I think it can there is
like maybe your comfortable way of doingthings, but I think it's so cool
when like it starts in another way, So like even that particular way you
know that you're talking about like songname first and then you go about that.
(16:21):
Yeah, that's crazy. I thinkalso to most songwriters I've talked to,
and you're probably in this group too, everyone keeps a journal for when
you're kind of stuck, but you'renever really stuck because I my problem is
I don't know what in the worldto release. Like if I ever had
a label, they would look atthe three thousand songs say that's a winner,
that's a lose, because there's justso much. And like you said,
(16:41):
every day I'll email myself like eighttitles to songs and little lines everywhere.
And the funniest thing in the worldis my note list has grown tremendously.
I haven't used those lines to writea song in months, So I
have these really cool lines. Youknow, you hear a line in a
song, or you see a busad or something, but it's just there's
(17:03):
content overload, you know. No, Yeah, I think it's so tough
sometimes for me too, because likewhen like we're deciding like what to release
next, like especially now, it'stough because I like, if it was
my like choice, I would Imean, it's probably not the best choice,
but just release them all. Andyou know, because I always,
(17:26):
like I get like the importance ofyou know, promoting it and doing all
that, but I cannot wait tolike show people when I'm with them,
and I feel like that's what Iwould that's what I chase the most,
or like when I started doing thisthing, I was like so caught up
or stressed on, like how's itgoing to happen again? You know?
And I think I think that likewhen I'd be like I'm stuck, But
(17:49):
like you said, I don't thinkyou're ever really stuck, especially creatively.
I think there are funks, youknow that when you're not in the right
headspace, you can maybe you know, yeah, stretchers about when you're like
feeling like you're writing for the wrongreasons, you know, and not doing
it because you love it, becausethat's why we do it, you know.
(18:11):
Yeah, And I think I understandas I've gotten older, the importance
of an awesome manager, an awesometeam, and awesome and even label,
which you know, they get alot of crap because what they do is
they help focus things and they doresearch and they say, hey, these
people they hate that song or theylove the course, but they hate the
and it's more like making it readyfor the masses. And sometimes it doesn't
(18:33):
mean it loses its message. Itjust means, you know, you could
be stuck on a line and belike, oh, that's such a cool
slur, that's such a cool Idrop off the Cliff there and people are
like, I hate that. Yeah, yeah, So tell us a little
bit about what you have coming outfor the fans this year, and he
surprised us. So I think afterbecause I just release the EP, I
(18:59):
think we're going to come out witha acoustic song or I mean it's not
all acoustic, but definitely acoustic basswith some you know, a cool light
production around it that I really love. I think it has a really cool
message behind that. And other thanthat, we have tons of music ready
(19:21):
to release. I think what Ireally want to do is start playing a
lot more shows and you know,fiddling with playing the new stuff that I
haven't released yet and see what reallywhat really hits and then kind of go
from there on that. But inthe back line of that, we do
have plans to release you know,music every every you know month or so,
(19:42):
with you know, all the stuffthat we think is the strongest,
but you never know what the strongestis, you know. I think like
for me, I feel like Itie my feelings to each song in such
a unique way that I love themall like equally depending on how I'm feeling.
So I could listen to a songthat I thought was my favorite yesterday
(20:03):
and then like if I'm not safe, I'm feeling like I'm not sad or
something, and then I listened toa happy song. I like, you
know, I guess you can kindof tie feelings to both of them because
you can be like, oh,at least I'm out of this runt and
I'm like thinking of this and I'mlike, damn, this helped me,
you know. Yeah, absolutely,I get you. So tell us about
your website, your socios. Wherecan people buy your stuff, stream and
(20:25):
support you? So? Yeah,everything from TikTok, Instagram. My website's
got a little bit of merch onit. And I think I'm on every
platform. Who knows with how manyplatforms are being created nowadays, but I
try to stay in the loop witheverything. Yeah, I think. I
(20:48):
mean you can get it on Spotifyis everything. I think it should be
on everything. If it's not DMI, I'll send you the specific drop box,
like if that'll help. Yeah,awesome, man. Well, I
want to thank you so much forbeing on the show build and it was
a blast. Man. I'd loveto have you on again anytime. Yeah.
Hell yeah, that was amazing Torontos. I think, yeah, that
(21:10):
was awesome, dude, Thank youso much. You're welcome, man,
So tell the fans out there thankyou for spending a few of your precious
moments with the two of us.We sincerely appreciate it. My name is
Torontos. Please join me every Tuesdaynight to your other amazing artists shore.
They're fascinating behind the scenes, lookat their lives right here on the Songwriter
Show on Reality Radio one oh oneand a great night. I love you
(21:30):
all, sign you divorce papers,but I'm so excited. No more wasted
my good day song you riding inthe open highway and I'm not near side
(21:59):
nomorrow, wasting my dreams on you. I'm bigger than this, and I'm
better than this. I'm bigger thanyou, and I'm better than you.
I don't want to waste my prettyon you. I don't let your hunting
another bite. You're no more wondering. If you're speaking truth tonight, You're
(22:27):
not gonna keep me out from thebight that my life is father. Happy
accidents to the left, to theright, Happy accidents, happy accidents,
all day, every day, Happyaccidents, happy accidents. Year say,
(23:00):
happy accidents, happy accidents. Theymake my yea, happy accidents. You
still dance with dynamite, It's true. But I'm done wasting my energy on
(23:26):
you both. You hate to loveme, love to hate me. Next
dooy I quit it too, ButI'm not coming back wasting my soul on
you. I'm bigger than this,and I'm better than this. I'm bigger
than you, and I'm better thanyou. I don't want to waste my
(23:49):
praiaity. I don't at your hut. Take another bite, No more wondering.
If you're speaking truth tonight, You'renot gonna keep me out from the
light. My life is father.Happy accidents to the left, to the
(24:14):
right, happy asked does happy askedus? All day every day, Happy
asadas day, happy ass he happyASTs, happy askedas they make my day.
(24:47):
Happy accidents. There's a rainbow aboutthat. That's where I can see
and just oh you love not myfavorite colors. I'm tuning out the world.
I'm tuning to me. Happy accidents. To the left, to the
(25:15):
right, happy accidents. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah yeah. Happy accidents all dayevery day, Happy accidents. Yeah yeah,
happy accidents, happy accdents. Yeayea yea. Happy accidents. They
(25:45):
make my day happy. Accidents.Thank you for listening to the songwriter.
So to keep the moment it's upgoing, head over to www Dot songwriter
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