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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you a songwriter?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Are you looking to turn your songwriting passion into a
full time gig gig? Whether you are just at the
start of your songwriting journey or a seasoned industry professional,
this show is made for you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You we well.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews,
and communitating. Now welcome your host, Sarantoso.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in and welcome back
to the Songwriter Show right here on Reality Radio one
oh one. I'm your host, Sarantos. I'm a solo music
artist who's been writing lyrics for as long as I
can remember. Words are just so important to me, and
that's why I love hosting this show for you every
single Tuesday evening. I believe that every song is a story. Tonight,
I'm so excited to have on the show Jayputty. Jay's
(00:49):
most vulnerable and cinematic work to date has been released.
This new EP and visual short film from Nashville's rising
singer songwriter Jayputty was released on June six.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And now welcome this week's special guest guest.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Welcome to show.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Jay. How are you. I'm doing very well? Man, How
are you?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm doing well? So are you in Nashville currently.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. I just got back into town
a couple of days ago. Been working on the follow
up to the follow up record.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I love Nashville, man, That's got such a special place
in my art.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I mean, talk about like the songtwriters show on all this.
I think Nashville is one of the best places in
the world when it comes to just songwriting in general.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, what made you want to go out to Nashville?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
So when I was about twenty or twenty one, it
was between Los Angeles or Nashville, and I did a
couple of weeks in LA and I liked like the
nightlife and I liked how like, you know, vibrant it was.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, at twenty one, like who doesn't. But yeah,
when I went to.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Nashville, there's just such a love for the process of songwriting,
Like it really is like you know, joy and care
for it, and that will always be my first love.
So that's kind of like what drew me in. And
the fact that I was also two hours away from
my hometown with I'm very close to my family and
so that kind of helps out a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, it's cool. So tell us a little bit about
your instrument. What's your main instrument?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I would say my main instrument is guitar.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Kind of grew up on the John Mayers, the emo
Hawthorne Heights of the Day, so kind of get a
weird combination of play on my guitar because again, like
I grew up like playing John Mayer. But then I
would turn around, I would do like my Chemical Romance,
so very emo.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And tell us a little bit about if you could
describe yourself in a sentence, Well, how would you describe
yourself to the listeners?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Lambuoyant? Golden Retriever.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
All right and the Golden re Tree. Are you talking
about your hair? Is that what your hair looks like?
Or what is that your personality?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I would say yes, I got long blonde hair, and
I say Golden Retriever because everybody says that I just
get excited about the little things, and I kind of
yap and you know, I'm I'm just very like, oh hi,
I just met you and I love you.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I kind of dug the pug.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
So I would say that I just really like truly
do like enjoy life. So Golden Retriever, And I say
that because I'm sitting next to my golden retriever right now.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's awesome. Man, well behaved. Don't hear them barking or anything.
That's great.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Sawyer is a very well behaved dog. The chihuahua I
got here, it's a different story. He likes to whine,
but I love him to death. They are my babies.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So what's your fondest musical memory?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Man, one good.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Question, but also one of those ones that, like, I
feel like if you asked me at any time of
the day, it would probably change. Probably, like one of
my favorite memories is is probably it might be some
recncy biased, but I recently got this song of mine
called These are the Moments placed in a promo for
the Master's Tournament. And the reason why that one is
so fond to me or special. I wrote this song
(03:59):
after my dad passed way about everything I hope he
says to me when I see him again, Because my
dad was the kind of person that could give you
advice where you know, he was a sudden redneck from Kentucky,
So he would say a phrase and you're like, that
doesn't make sense, But then the more he said about it,
you're like, oh, actually that is really good advice. And
he was a big golfer, and so we always talked
(04:21):
about like one day him and I would go to
the Masters and so be able to have that song
placed in the promo for the Masters, which it scored.
Like the promo was for the greatest moments in Master's history.
It's like my dad gets to be immortalized in the
Masters with a song about him, and so I think
that's just such a special moment that like music kind
of gave me for that.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, that's awesome. So if there was one thing that
you wanted to accomplish this year, what would that be?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Oh hmmm, I want Okay, it's kind of a three
pronged approach. Okay, I would love to have a song
in like a big movie trailer for like a like
fun kids movie trailer.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
My music I feel like it's super happy, go lucky.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
And I would love to like play something in like
you know, the next Crudes movie or you know Shrek,
like loving that or you know, I would love to
play on a talk show like a Kelly Clarkson show
or Stephen Colbert show or.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's cool, man, not three pronged. Tell us about your
songwriting process. How do you get started coming up with something?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I kind of do like a creative practice most days
where I like I spend like ten to fifteen minutes
in the morning kind of like journaling like ideas or
like song titles or something like that. You know, Like
I said, like I'm kind of like a songwriter first,
and like I love the process of songwriting, and I
write a lot not only for myself but for other
artists and for other opportunities I can film and television,
(05:48):
and so Nashville especially is like one of those ones
where it's like you can't wait for inspiration to strike.
You have to kind of like stay productive and invite
inspiration to join you. So one of my favorite things
to do is like take ten to fifteen minutes in
the morning and just like think of like song titles
that I could like eventually write a story to, because
that allows me if I have like a title to
(06:10):
like work backwards towards. I feel like I can write
like a turn of phrase or a like a word
flip or something in there that if I bring it
to like the right collaborator, we can make it like
something really special unique. So I like to start there
and then on my own like artistry, Like I like
to try to be as grounded as possible in my
(06:32):
lyrics just because I feel like the way that I speak,
like naturally is very conversational, very in the grounded. So
I'd rather, you know, take that approach of like what
I actually say this, or it might being am I
being too metaphorical? Will people think of being pretentious if
I said this? And I like to just kind of
like write the verses to really you know, connect the
(06:54):
story in a two pronged approach where it's like verse
one is like the setup to the hook for the
first time, and then verse two is expanding upon that story,
but then still getting back to the hook and expanding
upon like what that hook actually means. So by the
time you get to the second chorus, the chorus itself
has taken on like two different meanings to go with it.
Do you have any famous musicians or songwriters that you admire, Oh, Man,
(07:18):
Ryan Tedder is a big one for me. Great example
of somebody who can like write the number one, produce
the number one, and be the artist who gets the
number one. And that's kind of like somebody like I
really like modeled my career after obviously like the John
Mayers of the world, but like really like if I
had to like pick like one and it would be
like Ryan Tedder just because again his love of songwriting
(07:40):
and no matter who it is, whether it be like
writing and producing for somebody like Tate McCrae, or writing
and producing for Beyonce, or even just like creating like
the songs that one in Republic, he is just absolutely
known for.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, absolutely all right, I'll tell you what tell us
about this song. We're in here in a few minutes
inspired this one.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
So Everyday Magic is a song really special to me
because it kind of goes back to what I was
talking about earlier about like feeling grounded in my lyricism.
I know I mentioned, like you know what turned me
off from LA is the love of songwriting and like
staying there. But every Day Magic is about how I
see my life now that I don't like, I don't
(08:21):
have like brand name anything, Like I have the same
car that I've been driving since I paid it off,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna try and hit two hundred
and fifty thousand miles on it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Like every Day Magic is about.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
The little things in life that truly, you know, matter,
like I can be rich in life, but like not money.
And it's like I think the second verse says it
the best, which is like a good cup of coffee
in the morning, a call from a friend out of
the blue, a love this comfortable, and a worn in
and a liugh that takes over a room.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
That's what life really is all about.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
All right, tell you what, man, Let's take a listen.
We'll come back and talk tomorrow. Okay, yeah, okay, awesome,
everybody check us out. Here we go.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I don't need much to be happy. I don't need palaces,
the gold. The best things in life don't cost money.
It can't be bod it can't be sold. The mystery
(09:34):
and the sunrise, the saws in the sky, memories that
you can replace, frozen in time. All I need is everything, magic,
the simple and the beautiful things. To winness the moment
(09:56):
as it happens it's overbea before you can blink. Don't
count the days, just make the days count. Stop to
smell the rose's wildlife. So about all I need is everything, magic,
(10:18):
the simple and the beautiful things. A cook cup of
coffee in morning, a call from a friend out of
(10:41):
the blue, A love that's so comfortable in morning. I
love the days over the room. It's not complicated, it's
not hard to find because he's see on this right
(11:01):
if fron of your eyes. All in need is every
dame magic, the simple and the beautiful things. Dren is
the moman as it happens. It's about befo you kin blank.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Don't count the days, just make the days count.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Stop to smell the roses as well. I so about.
All in need is every day magic, the simple and
the beautiful things. I don't need much to be happy.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't need palace is.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Good calling me it is every day magic, simple and beautiful,
fil winning small as it happens.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
It's so lucky though you can't believe.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
You don't count day, Just pay the days.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Count, stop smells.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
It's on life suits calling me it is everything magic, simple.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
And beautiful foods. It's simple and beautiful things.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Well, thank you for sharing that with us, Man cool Son.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Oh, I appreciate that. Thanks so much. You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
How often do you practice? You try to do it
every day once a week. How does your schedule work
for that?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Like practice like performing or like writing, or because I
will be honest, I'm such a bad student of like
practicing my instrument. When I was younger and I played
in like metal bands and I wasn't really the vocalist,
I probably practiced guitar.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
More than I do now. But now I look.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
At practices like I'll be driving in my car in
my studio in Nashville, and like I'll run through like
my set a few times. I will practice like performing.
But if it comes to like actually like practicing like
my guitar, or like learning some new chords, not very
good at that. In fact, if you listen to any
(13:43):
of my music, you will know that basically every song
has the chords G, E, minor C and D just
moved up somewhere on a cable on the deck. I'm
a creature habit, but so I practice like my artistry,
but like practice guitar, probably not too much anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
If there's a song you could re record in your catalog,
which one would you re record?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Oh? Wow?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I think the song that comes to mind the most
is a song of mine called dream Big, because it
is one of the first songs I ever like really
learned how to produce on my own, and I think
it's such a great song.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's such a fun song.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
And I did not do the mix very well on it,
if I'm honest with you, But it was because, you know,
during the pandemic, I was learning how to produce, so
I was learning how to be, you know, an engineer
like that, and I just think it's it's such a
fun song, such a good song that I've actually toyed
around with the idea of like just re recording it
(14:42):
all together and just being like, all right, time to
get it all right.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You know. One of the questions I like to ask
songwriters is about scams. Tell us about one you might
have fallen for or one that you want to warn
us all about.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So there's the obvious scams of like the people like hey,
I'm a representative from Interscope Records and all that.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That always like when I when.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I was younger, or like now even again, like when
you don't understand like the business, which I don't fault
anyone for not understanding, especially like in an industry that's
so hard, like the music business. You can kind of
like follow for that because you hear about it all
the time. That oh, my god, this person discovered me
on YouTube and they sent me a TM and like
now they want to sign me, So like I'd be
worried about that, but like I think at the like
(15:25):
the end of the day, like I think people have
gotten better at it of like discerning that. I think
the one that most songwriters and artists should be aware
of now, and this is like a more like actual
one is like playlisting scams. Anybody who tells you they
can can get you a guaranteed number of dreams for
a guaranteed x amount of time on a playlist, like
(15:47):
they're boughting that playlist. And not only is it a
scam because like you can get flagged by Spotify or
any of these DSPs and get your music taking down
pretty quickly, but it also hurts your algorithmic reach on
these She's like, what we're there for because a lot
of these playlists, they're not really there to like be
conducive to what your music is and what the audience
(16:09):
actually wants. They're just there to put a bunch of
people that paid on paid to be on these playlists
on these playlists, pump it full of fake streams hoping
that you get addicted to the vanity number of it. Yeah,
and so your agrhithm gets tanked because the album is like,
oh well, based on this playlist in these fake streams,
like you're actually this Afro pop artist from Kenya or
(16:34):
you're actually this Italian disco artist, and it's like I
play metalcore, Like why like why am I getting all
these recommending artists and so like, I think that's really
the scam that I think a lot of people should
be aware of is don't get so impatient that you're
like I need to pay for these streams to make
it happen. Grow in time, be patient and allow your
(16:57):
audience to find your music, because in long run it'll
be so much like more worth it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
What's the coolest road trip you've ever been on?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Coolest road trip? Man?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I So I used to be before I was like
the artist artist I am now. I used to be
a hired gun for some pop rock bands when I
was like nineteen twenty years old and I was playing
guitar for this band called Jocqulin out of Iowa, and
we did a full east coast to west coast tour
(17:28):
over the course of like a.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Month and a half and we were able.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I was able at like nineteen to be able to
see the almost the entirety of the United States from
the back of a van, all from from driving down
the mountains during the snowstorm in the Colorado Rockies to
going to Disney for the first time because our tour
manager was the merch guy for a band called The
Cab and the Cab was on tour with Panic at
the disco at the time, and our tour manager was
(17:53):
in a he was in a fantasy football league with
Brendan Yuri, and Brendan Uri lost a bet, and so
I was able to go to Disney for the first
time because Brendon Urie had to pay for us to go.
So I think that's probably like the best like road trip.
It's like an all encompassing, like one month like in
the back of this van, nineteen nothing to do kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Tell the fans where they can buy your stuff, stream it,
where can they find you online?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah, so everything of mine you can find at under
the name j Putty ay putty, silly like silly Putty.
I like to tell everybody you can, you know, buy
iTunes all that kind of stuff. But whatever, Like however,
you stream our digest music because I know with the
economy and everything in between, I know it's so hard
(18:38):
to like get together any kind of money.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So even if you.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Have to like illegally download it, as long as you
like listen to it and enjoy it, and like I
am incredibly appreciative.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That's awesome, man. I want to thank you so much
for being on the show tonight and spend a little
bit of time with us.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Absolutely, thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Welcome Jay, and thank you. Tell the fans out there
for spending a little bit of your precious time with
the two of us tonight. Thank you for being a
part of the Songwriter Show. If you're an artist with
a story to share, please go to our website and
fill out the forum to be on the show. I
hope you all join us every single Tuesday evening as
we uncover these inspiring journeys behind the real music. I
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love you all, have a great night. See you next
Tuesday night.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
She thinks she's gotten the ride to Chriss to shotsca
body into your night that she takes a bite, But
what gives her the ride to Scott and shame your
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mind listen lives well behind those with effect eyes. She
slices it through your song to night. She's always shining
in the summer sun. But the damage is already done.
You foonded far from heaven, and your smile was the weapon.
Speaker 10 (20:17):
Isn't nice And she's the reason why she.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
Calls the true underneath the sun sky.
Speaker 11 (20:24):
You is a nice man. It makes your fear of
beauty isn't isn't nice that she loves me to cry?
She loves.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
So beauties in the heart. It's that put means you
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have a passing style. But fools would always change now
which smiles and they can help you out of.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
True beauty and things. It stays woman.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Inside, never west end or steals the light within. You
don't stay at her slang because she's always shining in
the summer sun. But the damage is already done.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
You're falling far from heaven. Her smile was the weapon.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Beauty isn't nice that she's there isn't a while and
she cars loud true rather thanneath.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
The summer sky beauties and night.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Rather, it makes her fear the beauty is.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
Nice that she loves to make me cry. Also, so you.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
Means should thinks.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
She's your sister. Juli Si sister said give you today.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Pums and she's the reason pe that she.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
Call to Tru underneath the summer sky.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
You means her kith and makes her feel you iss
shes to make a CROs.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
She calls her ways, so you means shot.
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Are you a songwriter?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Are you looking to turn your songwriting passion into a
full time gig gig? Whether you are just at the
start of your songwriting journey or a seasoned industry professional,
this show is made for you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You we well.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews,
and communitating. Now welcome your host, Sarantoso.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in and welcome back
to the Songwriter Show right here on Reality Radio one
oh one. I'm your host, Sarantos. I'm a solo music
artist who's been writing lyrics for as long as I
can remember. Words are just so important to me, and
that's why I love hosting this show for you every
single Tuesday evening. I believe that every song is a story. Tonight,
I'm so excited to have on the show Jayputty. Jay's
(00:49):
most vulnerable and cinematic work to date has been released.
This new EP and visual short film from Nashville's rising
singer songwriter Jayputty was released on June six.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And now welcome this week's special guest guest.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Welcome to show.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Jay. How are you. I'm doing very well? Man, How
are you?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm doing well? So are you in Nashville currently.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. I just got back into town
a couple of days ago. Been working on the follow
up to the follow up record.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I love Nashville, man, That's got such a special place
in my art.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I mean, talk about like the songtwriters show on all this.
I think Nashville is one of the best places in
the world when it comes to just songwriting in general.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, what made you want to go out to Nashville?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
So when I was about twenty or twenty one, it
was between Los Angeles or Nashville, and I did a
couple of weeks in LA and I liked like the
nightlife and I liked how like, you know, vibrant it was.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, at twenty one, like who doesn't. But yeah,
when I went to.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Nashville, there's just such a love for the process of songwriting,
Like it really is like you know, joy and care
for it, and that will always be my first love.
So that's kind of like what drew me in. And
the fact that I was also two hours away from
my hometown with I'm very close to my family and
so that kind of helps out a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, it's cool. So tell us a little bit about
your instrument. What's your main instrument?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I would say my main instrument is guitar.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Kind of grew up on the John Mayers, the emo
Hawthorne Heights of the Day, so kind of get a
weird combination of play on my guitar because again, like
I grew up like playing John Mayer. But then I
would turn around, I would do like my Chemical Romance,
so very emo.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And tell us a little bit about if you could
describe yourself in a sentence, Well, how would you describe
yourself to the listeners?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Lambuoyant? Golden Retriever.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
All right and the Golden re Tree. Are you talking
about your hair? Is that what your hair looks like?
Or what is that your personality?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I would say yes, I got long blonde hair, and
I say Golden Retriever because everybody says that I just
get excited about the little things, and I kind of
yap and you know, I'm I'm just very like, oh hi,
I just met you and I love you.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I kind of dug the pug.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
So I would say that I just really like truly
do like enjoy life. So Golden Retriever, And I say
that because I'm sitting next to my golden retriever right now.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's awesome. Man, well behaved. Don't hear them barking or anything.
That's great.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Sawyer is a very well behaved dog. The chihuahua I
got here, it's a different story. He likes to whine,
but I love him to death. They are my babies.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So what's your fondest musical memory?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Man, one good.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Question, but also one of those ones that, like, I
feel like if you asked me at any time of
the day, it would probably change. Probably, like one of
my favorite memories is is probably it might be some
recncy biased, but I recently got this song of mine
called These are the Moments placed in a promo for
the Master's Tournament. And the reason why that one is
so fond to me or special. I wrote this song
(03:59):
after my dad passed way about everything I hope he
says to me when I see him again, Because my
dad was the kind of person that could give you
advice where you know, he was a sudden redneck from Kentucky,
So he would say a phrase and you're like, that
doesn't make sense, But then the more he said about it,
you're like, oh, actually that is really good advice. And
he was a big golfer, and so we always talked
(04:21):
about like one day him and I would go to
the Masters and so be able to have that song
placed in the promo for the Masters, which it scored.
Like the promo was for the greatest moments in Master's history.
It's like my dad gets to be immortalized in the
Masters with a song about him, and so I think
that's just such a special moment that like music kind
of gave me for that.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, that's awesome. So if there was one thing that
you wanted to accomplish this year, what would that be?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Oh hmmm, I want Okay, it's kind of a three
pronged approach. Okay, I would love to have a song
in like a big movie trailer for like a like
fun kids movie trailer.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
My music I feel like it's super happy, go lucky.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
And I would love to like play something in like
you know, the next Crudes movie or you know Shrek,
like loving that or you know, I would love to
play on a talk show like a Kelly Clarkson show
or Stephen Colbert show or.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's cool, man, not three pronged. Tell us about your
songwriting process. How do you get started coming up with something?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I kind of do like a creative practice most days
where I like I spend like ten to fifteen minutes
in the morning kind of like journaling like ideas or
like song titles or something like that. You know, Like
I said, like I'm kind of like a songwriter first,
and like I love the process of songwriting, and I
write a lot not only for myself but for other
artists and for other opportunities I can film and television,
(05:48):
and so Nashville especially is like one of those ones
where it's like you can't wait for inspiration to strike.
You have to kind of like stay productive and invite
inspiration to join you. So one of my favorite things
to do is like take ten to fifteen minutes in
the morning and just like think of like song titles
that I could like eventually write a story to, because
that allows me if I have like a title to
(06:10):
like work backwards towards. I feel like I can write
like a turn of phrase or a like a word
flip or something in there that if I bring it
to like the right collaborator, we can make it like
something really special unique. So I like to start there
and then on my own like artistry, Like I like
to try to be as grounded as possible in my
(06:32):
lyrics just because I feel like the way that I speak,
like naturally is very conversational, very in the grounded. So
I'd rather, you know, take that approach of like what
I actually say this, or it might being am I
being too metaphorical? Will people think of being pretentious if
I said this? And I like to just kind of
like write the verses to really you know, connect the
(06:54):
story in a two pronged approach where it's like verse
one is like the setup to the hook for the
first time, and then verse two is expanding upon that story,
but then still getting back to the hook and expanding
upon like what that hook actually means. So by the
time you get to the second chorus, the chorus itself
has taken on like two different meanings to go with it.
Do you have any famous musicians or songwriters that you admire, Oh, Man,
(07:18):
Ryan Tedder is a big one for me. Great example
of somebody who can like write the number one, produce
the number one, and be the artist who gets the
number one. And that's kind of like somebody like I
really like modeled my career after obviously like the John
Mayers of the world, but like really like if I
had to like pick like one and it would be
like Ryan Tedder just because again his love of songwriting
(07:40):
and no matter who it is, whether it be like
writing and producing for somebody like Tate McCrae, or writing
and producing for Beyonce, or even just like creating like
the songs that one in Republic, he is just absolutely
known for.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, absolutely all right, I'll tell you what tell us
about this song. We're in here in a few minutes
inspired this one.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
So Everyday Magic is a song really special to me
because it kind of goes back to what I was
talking about earlier about like feeling grounded in my lyricism.
I know I mentioned, like you know what turned me
off from LA is the love of songwriting and like
staying there. But every Day Magic is about how I
see my life now that I don't like, I don't
(08:21):
have like brand name anything, Like I have the same
car that I've been driving since I paid it off,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna try and hit two hundred
and fifty thousand miles on it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Like every Day Magic is about.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
The little things in life that truly, you know, matter,
like I can be rich in life, but like not money.
And it's like I think the second verse says it
the best, which is like a good cup of coffee
in the morning, a call from a friend out of
the blue, a love this comfortable, and a worn in
and a liugh that takes over a room.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
That's what life really is all about.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
All right, tell you what, man, Let's take a listen.
We'll come back and talk tomorrow. Okay, yeah, okay, awesome,
everybody check us out. Here we go.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I don't need much to be happy. I don't need palaces,
the gold. The best things in life don't cost money.
It can't be bod it can't be sold. The mystery
(09:34):
and the sunrise, the saws in the sky, memories that
you can replace, frozen in time. All I need is everything, magic,
the simple and the beautiful things. To winness the moment
(09:56):
as it happens it's overbea before you can blink. Don't
count the days, just make the days count. Stop to
smell the rose's wildlife. So about all I need is everything, magic,
(10:18):
the simple and the beautiful things. A cook cup of
coffee in morning, a call from a friend out of
(10:41):
the blue, A love that's so comfortable in morning. I
love the days over the room. It's not complicated, it's
not hard to find because he's see on this right
(11:01):
if fron of your eyes. All in need is every
dame magic, the simple and the beautiful things. Dren is
the moman as it happens. It's about befo you kin blank.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Don't count the days, just make the days count.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Stop to smell the roses as well. I so about.
All in need is every day magic, the simple and
the beautiful things. I don't need much to be happy.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't need palace is.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Good calling me it is every day magic, simple and beautiful,
fil winning small as it happens.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
It's so lucky though you can't believe.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
You don't count day, Just pay the days.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Count, stop smells.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
It's on life suits calling me it is everything magic, simple.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
And beautiful foods. It's simple and beautiful things.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Well, thank you for sharing that with us, Man cool Son.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Oh, I appreciate that. Thanks so much. You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
How often do you practice? You try to do it
every day once a week. How does your schedule work
for that?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Like practice like performing or like writing, or because I
will be honest, I'm such a bad student of like
practicing my instrument. When I was younger and I played
in like metal bands and I wasn't really the vocalist,
I probably practiced guitar.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
More than I do now. But now I look.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
At practices like I'll be driving in my car in
my studio in Nashville, and like I'll run through like
my set a few times. I will practice like performing.
But if it comes to like actually like practicing like
my guitar, or like learning some new chords, not very
good at that. In fact, if you listen to any
(13:43):
of my music, you will know that basically every song
has the chords G, E, minor C and D just
moved up somewhere on a cable on the deck. I'm
a creature habit, but so I practice like my artistry,
but like practice guitar, probably not too much anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
If there's a song you could re record in your catalog,
which one would you re record?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Oh? Wow?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I think the song that comes to mind the most
is a song of mine called dream Big, because it
is one of the first songs I ever like really
learned how to produce on my own, and I think
it's such a great song.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's such a fun song.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
And I did not do the mix very well on it,
if I'm honest with you, But it was because, you know,
during the pandemic, I was learning how to produce, so
I was learning how to be, you know, an engineer
like that, and I just think it's it's such a
fun song, such a good song that I've actually toyed
around with the idea of like just re recording it
(14:42):
all together and just being like, all right, time to
get it all right.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You know. One of the questions I like to ask
songwriters is about scams. Tell us about one you might
have fallen for or one that you want to warn
us all about.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So there's the obvious scams of like the people like hey,
I'm a representative from Interscope Records and all that.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That always like when I when.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I was younger, or like now even again, like when
you don't understand like the business, which I don't fault
anyone for not understanding, especially like in an industry that's
so hard, like the music business. You can kind of
like follow for that because you hear about it all
the time. That oh, my god, this person discovered me
on YouTube and they sent me a TM and like
now they want to sign me, So like I'd be
worried about that, but like I think at the like
(15:25):
the end of the day, like I think people have
gotten better at it of like discerning that. I think
the one that most songwriters and artists should be aware
of now, and this is like a more like actual
one is like playlisting scams. Anybody who tells you they
can can get you a guaranteed number of dreams for
a guaranteed x amount of time on a playlist, like
(15:47):
they're boughting that playlist. And not only is it a
scam because like you can get flagged by Spotify or
any of these DSPs and get your music taking down
pretty quickly, but it also hurts your algorithmic reach on
these She's like, what we're there for because a lot
of these playlists, they're not really there to like be
conducive to what your music is and what the audience
(16:09):
actually wants. They're just there to put a bunch of
people that paid on paid to be on these playlists
on these playlists, pump it full of fake streams hoping
that you get addicted to the vanity number of it. Yeah,
and so your agrhithm gets tanked because the album is like,
oh well, based on this playlist in these fake streams,
like you're actually this Afro pop artist from Kenya or
(16:34):
you're actually this Italian disco artist, and it's like I
play metalcore, Like why like why am I getting all
these recommending artists and so like, I think that's really
the scam that I think a lot of people should
be aware of is don't get so impatient that you're
like I need to pay for these streams to make
it happen. Grow in time, be patient and allow your
(16:57):
audience to find your music, because in long run it'll
be so much like more worth it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
What's the coolest road trip you've ever been on?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Coolest road trip? Man?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I So I used to be before I was like
the artist artist I am now. I used to be
a hired gun for some pop rock bands when I
was like nineteen twenty years old and I was playing
guitar for this band called Jocqulin out of Iowa, and
we did a full east coast to west coast tour
(17:28):
over the course of like a.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Month and a half and we were able.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I was able at like nineteen to be able to
see the almost the entirety of the United States from
the back of a van, all from from driving down
the mountains during the snowstorm in the Colorado Rockies to
going to Disney for the first time because our tour
manager was the merch guy for a band called The
Cab and the Cab was on tour with Panic at
the disco at the time, and our tour manager was
(17:53):
in a he was in a fantasy football league with
Brendan Yuri, and Brendan Uri lost a bet, and so
I was able to go to Disney for the first
time because Brendon Urie had to pay for us to go.
So I think that's probably like the best like road trip.
It's like an all encompassing, like one month like in
the back of this van, nineteen nothing to do kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Tell the fans where they can buy your stuff, stream it,
where can they find you online?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah, so everything of mine you can find at under
the name j Putty ay putty, silly like silly Putty.
I like to tell everybody you can, you know, buy
iTunes all that kind of stuff. But whatever, Like however,
you stream our digest music because I know with the
economy and everything in between, I know it's so hard
(18:38):
to like get together any kind of money.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So even if you.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Have to like illegally download it, as long as you
like listen to it and enjoy it, and like I
am incredibly appreciative.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That's awesome, man. I want to thank you so much
for being on the show tonight and spend a little
bit of time with us.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Absolutely, thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Welcome Jay, and thank you. Tell the fans out there
for spending a little bit of your precious time with
the two of us tonight. Thank you for being a
part of the Songwriter Show. If you're an artist with
a story to share, please go to our website and
fill out the forum to be on the show. I
hope you all join us every single Tuesday evening as
we uncover these inspiring journeys behind the real music. I
(19:18):
love you all, have a great night. See you next
Tuesday night.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
She thinks she's gotten the ride to Chriss to shotsca
body into your night that she takes a bite, But
what gives her the ride to Scott and shame your
(19:55):
mind listen lives well behind those with effect eyes. She
slices it through your song to night. She's always shining
in the summer sun. But the damage is already done.
You foonded far from heaven, and your smile was the weapon.
Speaker 10 (20:17):
Isn't nice And she's the reason why she.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
Calls the true underneath the sun sky.
Speaker 11 (20:24):
You is a nice man. It makes your fear of
beauty isn't isn't nice that she loves me to cry?
She loves.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
So beauties in the heart. It's that put means you
(21:01):
have a passing style. But fools would always change now
which smiles and they can help you out of.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
True beauty and things. It stays woman.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Inside, never west end or steals the light within. You
don't stay at her slang because she's always shining in
the summer sun. But the damage is already done.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
You're falling far from heaven. Her smile was the weapon.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Beauty isn't nice that she's there isn't a while and
she cars loud true rather thanneath.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
The summer sky beauties and night.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Rather, it makes her fear the beauty is.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
Nice that she loves to make me cry. Also, so you.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
Means should thinks.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
She's your sister. Juli Si sister said give you today.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Pums and she's the reason pe that she.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
Call to Tru underneath the summer sky.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
You means her kith and makes her feel you iss
shes to make a CROs.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
She calls her ways, so you means shot.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Thank you for listening to The Songwriter Show. To keep
(23:17):
the momental.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Going, head over to www Dot songwriter show dot com
and joined our free music community of artists, songwriters, and producers.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
That's www.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Dot songwriter show dot com.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
Any anything, many and al.
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No, no, no.
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Hanging hello, no hang hang hang hang
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