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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you a songwriter? Are you looking to turn your
songwriting passion into a full time gigig? Whether you are
just at the start of your songwriting journey or a
seasoned industry professional, this show is made for you. You we
will welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news,
interviews and communitating. Now welcome your houst Sarantos.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hello, and thank you so much for tuning in to
the Songwriter Show. I'm your humble host, Sronto, so fellow
songwriter with a passion for crafting stories through music. As
someone who's been writing lyrics for as long as I
can remember, I know how every song holds its own
unique story. That's what brings us together here each and
(00:46):
every Tuesday evening to celebrate the voices behind the music
we love. Tonight, I'm so happy to have on the
show Jamcase, an indie band from Australia that was formed
from a group of songwriters. Over the past seven year
is they've released a handful of sogns that have been
well received from independent radio stations around the world.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Special guest, Welcome to Shore Frank. How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Good?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Thank you? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh, you're welcome, man. So of course I have talked
about your cool Australian accent because I just have a
Chicago accent, which means I don't really have one. So
I'm very jealous whenever I talk to people with a
cool Australian or British or Parisian accent. Man. So that's
what we're going to talk about all day.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of accents myself as well.
It's always good to hear someone with a different accent.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, it's very cool. So tell us about your band, man,
I think you're the only one joining us tonight, right, Yeah, Well.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
We started in Perth, really located to Sydney and yeah,
i'd just been brity.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Haven't been really doing many gigs or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
It's more sort of just focusing on writing songs and
getting them out there onto radio stations and out to
the world and all that.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And tell us about your instrument. What's your instrument of choice.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I'm originally a drummer and at the moment the last
couple of years, I've been focusing on improving my guitar
skills and lyric writing and a lots of stuff and that. Yeah,
and then I've got the other guys that come in
and I do all the other stuff that needs to
be done to create what we're creating. So yeah, So
I've been mainly focusing on the guitar and sort of
(02:21):
improving my capabilities of yeah, playing the guitar a lot better.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Tell us about your songwriting process. You guys do it
as a band to do it? Is there one guy
mostly responsible? How does that work?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's mainly me writing, and whenever I sort of come
to a spot where I need some more influence or
different type of influence, I'll get a few of the
other guys that come in give.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Me a helping hand.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, Because the other guys are sort of they're pretty
much part time and they're doing all their own stuff
and all that. So, as I said, I'll come up
with ideas and I'll email them or get in contact
with them sewan what I'm trying to achieve and all that,
and they put the a little FN in there or yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Coming to record the studio recordings and that.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, So I do bulk of the writing, but as
I said, when it sometimes it comes to where I'll
get like a creative block or if I need some
expertise of theirs or something like that to help enhance
the song that I do.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So, yeah, tell us a little bit about what your
band is working on currently for the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Probably writing more tunes, writing some more some more music. Yeah,
so as we're not doing gigs at the moment or
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's more just creating more music.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, we love doing that. We love studio stuff. We
love doing studio work, if you know what I mean,
Like being on the road could be you know, because
like we're not known, Yeah, if you know what I mean,
so sure, Yeah, it's hard to sort of make good
coin they and so we're actually just focused on writing
and creating and getting outbands in the response that we
(04:01):
do get. Yeah, we sort of get a kick out
of that. Yeah, that's our sort of addictions at the.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Moment, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Do you have like a first teacher, who's your first
teacher musically?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, when I was younger, like I started when I
was like you know, like I got into music when
I was really young, but it wasn't until I was
about sixteen when I got an instrument and started sort
of pursuing learning how to be creative on an instrument
and all that. So, but in the early days, like
I used to listened to a lot of ACDC being
(04:32):
from Australia, you know, like a lot of Australian acts
and that. But then we used to get into Alis
Cooper in that fair bit as well when we were younger,
and sort of because I grew up in the Gland
metal days, so the mid eighties and all that, so
like all like skid Row and you know, like Poison,
a lot of stuff and now there were big, major
influences when I was younger, but through the nineties unfortunately
(04:55):
that Die, which I was pretty upset at the time
being young and you know, that was my scene. But
you sort of grow out of it and you still
listen to it, but then you go into more sort
of other styles of music and that.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah. But as in lessons and all that, I've had
the opportunity to study with Greg Missinette over in England.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He's a well known American drummer, played with David Lee
roth and stuff that I studied with Joe Rothman, he's
an educator. I met up with him in England when
I was living in England and studied with him for
a few.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Months, not stuff and that. So, and I did study
a little bit of time at the Strong Institute of
Music and Sydney as well.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
So yeah, so that's that's a little bit of education
I've had, But it was more sort of listening to
records and listen to what they do and try and
sort of put my own spin on it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, you know, musicians, it's very common unfortunately this industry
to be out of work for long periods. How do
you supplement time off and then how do you transition
out of this as quickly as possible to get back
into the music gigs.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I've I've actually been pretty fortunate the last couple of years.
I've sort of had funds that I've sort of saved
up over a long period of time, and I'm sort
of living full time music at the moment, so Martin
just relying on savings that I've developed over say twenty
years and all that. So I'm pretty fortunate the last
couple years. But before that was I was in and out,
(06:20):
like I used to do, laboring and work and all
that stuff, and to pay the bills and all that,
and then when I got home, I used to create,
right and then going to the studio on the weekends
and all that. So it was pretty hectic back in
them days, like at the start, like no, like seven
years ago or even before that, So trying to hold
down a full.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Time job and then try and write, be creative and
all that was.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, it was big days. But it was fun because
I was creating. I love to create. So but now,
as I said, it's it's a little bit easier now
because saving over a period of time. I've got a
good savings account to last me a little time longer
to do it full time. So I'm pretty fortunate at
the moment. Yeah, I just need to write a song
(07:03):
and get a big hit and then I'll be laughing
nothing hopefully.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah. Yeah, what's the worst career advice you've ever gotten?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Rock and Roll's dead. It really depressed me, you know,
it made me think because I often think the music
that got me into I mean, yeah, the type of
music or that got me into actually music died when
(07:33):
I just be able, when I turn eighteen, and I
was ready to rock and roll, you know, going to
the pubs and start playing and all that, and my
industry died, if you know what I mean. Like it
was pretty depressing, you know what I mean, But but
kept on going, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Because like I saw when I was sixteen, which is.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
No I think it was eighty nine or something like that.
So by the time I was eighteen nineteen ready to
rock and roll in the pubs and all that, like
grunge come in and killed the metal scene, if you
know what I mean. Yeah, so you could.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Sort of shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And people used to say that then it was a
little bit depressing, and I'm like, well, no, like I'm
reading rock and roll now, is it now?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's dying if you know what I mean. But that's
that's that type like rocket rock and roll in a
hole hadn't die.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But just saying that I was sort of getting into
was going down in sort of no popularity, if you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, all right, man, tell us about this song that
we're going to hear. What do you want the listener
to take from it?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah? So Byron Bay was written about when I left
w A, I.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Traveled Australia and I was writing music in Perth for
probably about four or five years. And recording and all that,
and then I thought, okay, well I want to sort
of take the next step into my progressing in my career.
So I thought, okay, well I'll head to Sydney. So
as in the song it says, jumped in my car,
(08:55):
headed east with a heart full of hope, So.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That was pretty much what I was I left to do.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And yeah, and it just goes through about just no
traveling on that road over towards Sydney and hopefully break
it into a whole new sort of wonderful scene and
career and hoping that everything goes well and build a
beautiful kingdom and.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Reside in a beautiful place where you can sort of
live for the rest of.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Your life is writing and creating music and doing stuff
that you love.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, that's cool, man. All Right, I'll tell you what.
Let's take a listen and we'll come back and talk tomorrow. Okay, okay, thanks, okay,
all right, everybody check this out. Here we go, jumped
(09:57):
and car.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Heading with a heart full of of home.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Wide open space in front of me just waiting to
be exporm.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
The sun is rising into Foo, brightening the path.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Sea is a dry, sweetness, free sweetness.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Things to come live in the.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Line, I join.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
A hold on the face, knowing that it is a
big future.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
For me, the kingdom and prosperity is awaiting just for me.
It's been in the hat scene Salvas younger.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Woman sing in.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
The feats of dreams.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Longing fall not Ben says to come called long f.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
A Fama place.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
People are peaceful here in Byron Bay.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I wouldn't change a thing on leave this place.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
I'm hearing Bna a Fama place with beautiful people here
in bron bab.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Won't change of things, won't going anywhere around, I'm hearing by.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
All right, Frank, thank you so much for sharing that
song with us.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, I hope you liked it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
If you could re record any song known to man
in any language, what song would you re record? It
could be anyone's, It doesn't have to be yours, in a.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Different language, any language in any I'm not sure re
record any language? What would I do? Don't worry, be.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Happy, don't worry, be happy? All right, man.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
The world's a little bit of turmoil at the moment,
so I think they'll probably go well, man, John, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Don't worry be happy now that song is going to
be stuck in my head. Man, God worry be happy. Yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I haven't actually actually haven't heard it for a long time.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
It was big when I was a teenager, like you
come out in the late eighties, I'm quite sure. Yeah,
so it was massive when it comes Everyone was singing
it's pretty catchy. Man.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Who's the most surprising person to ever compliment your music?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No, No one that's famous or anything like that. No
one or that. Probably family. Family.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, you're surprised that they like your stuff?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, well, family sort of the worst critics, man, I think,
because they can do it and they're sort of allowed
to do it, if you know what I mean, without
being too offensive, if.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know what I mean. Yeah, so, and I know
what they can get away with if you know what
I mean. But yeah, your family's always the worst critic.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I think, yeah, like, well that can be if that
can always be supportive as well, but you know what
I mean, that they can be your worst ones, I
would think, Yeah, I do think.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, yeah, they probably hit my music more than anybody
on the planet. I would say, I totally get that,
all right. How do you think most people should measure
success in their music career.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
How many people they inspire, how many people they that
enjoy the music? I would think, yeah, yeah, how many people?
How many people give them good reactions and feedbacks and
that stuff and that, and how sort of it could
How can it influence the world as well?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But there's many songs out there that can influence a
way that the world can go or the way that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
The country or or people can go, if you know
what I mean. So I think that's today, it's not. Yeah,
I think it's just how you influence the world and
people and how you make them feel.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, Okay, what's the strangest place you've ever played?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
There was a pub in England that I played at.
It was in Reading. It wasn't the strange actually it was.
It was pretty strange. For one thing. It was a
metal club you walked in there.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I think it's called the Red It was read something
red Castle or read something.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I can't remember. But it's near the train station in
Reading train station in.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
England and everything in that, like on the walls and
all that. They're all like if it was like a
picture or like a like an object or whatever. It
like a creative.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Piece on a wall.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
It was all wonky, like it wasn't sort of like
square or like straight edges or anything like that, was
just all wonky and all that was pretty weird. A
and it was all dark and all that, and the
music that we were playing was sort of like country
rock and it was like a metal joint.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So it was pretty weird. Yeah, it was pretty weird.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So like and and there was a guy that always
drunk there looked like I was you Osborne.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I actually went, I said, man, you look like I
was Osborne.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
He said, yeah, might get the light as an English accent. Yeah,
so it was pretty weird, you know what I mean,
like playing in a metal club playing country rock, and
as I said, like all the pictures on the walls
and all the sort of like ornaments and all that
stuff on the wall, all sort of like wonky all
around the pub and all that.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, so it was pretty weird. Yeah, so I'd say
that probably the most weird place.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, what's the most unique instrument you've ever used? That
one of your songs?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
We just use stand and stuff like like bassed drums,
tambourine's acoustic guitars and stuff that's we haven't sort of
really ventured out to any sort of Japanese or Chinese
or Indian sort of typing instruments or things like that.
The only overdubs that we've done is, you know, just
use normal stuff. Yeah, so we haven't sort of really
(18:28):
sort of explored different ways of finding sounds, not stuff
that it's sort of not sort of commonly used. Yeah,
so yeah, we have not, not yet anyway, but maybe
in the future we probably could. But yeah, nothing at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, if you could master an instrument that you don't
play when instrument, would that be piano?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I like piano, Yeah, just because the melody is the
sound the emotion that you can.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Get out of it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It's really dynamic and you can really you know, rock
someone's emotions with that, Yeah, like either.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Sad, happy, or whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah, and really get in there and sort of really
convey what you're trying to bring across emotionally.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah. Yeah, probably piano, Yeah, or even yeah, probably more
so the piano or the harp or something like that.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Okay, the harmonic is pretty cool too, Like you can
really rock with the harmonic, right, especially the blues.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Other than me and other than you? Is there like
an underrated artist that you'd love to see get recognition.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Nothing that really comes to mind, No, not at the moment. Nah,
And I'm trying to think of the past as well.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That's sort of they should have got more fame than
what they should have.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
No, I can't really think of it at the moment.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So tell us about socials. Where can people buy your stuff?
Stream it? You know, where can they find you online?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, so I'm on band camp, so our songs are
on band Camp also YouTube, Like, we haven't got any
film clips set. We're running a tight budget, so we
can't really do film clips.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
But you can go to.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Jam Case Productions on YouTube. You can google that and
with band camp, just band Camp and put in jam.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Case Productions and Facebook as well.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
We're on Facebook and that there's a couple of songs
old songs, really really old songs that don't sort of
really sort of represent what we're doing now on Spotify.
But as I said, they're right from the beginning, So
like I wouldn't really go there, but you probably more
band Camp. You can listen to it for free on
band Camp, but if YouTube will probably if you want
(20:42):
to listen to it absolutely for free. YouTube's the way
to go. Yeah to jam Case Productions, so they're the places.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, Hi, Man, I want to thank you so much
for being on the shot tonight.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
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Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, well, we thank you so much for having me man,
It's truly appreciated.
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Are you a songwriter? Are you looking to turn your
songwriting passion into a full time gigig? Whether you are
just at the start of your songwriting journey or a
seasoned industry professional, this show is made for you. You we
will welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news,
interviews and communitating. Now welcome your houst Sarantos.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hello, and thank you so much for tuning in to
the Songwriter Show. I'm your humble host, Sronto, so fellow
songwriter with a passion for crafting stories through music. As
someone who's been writing lyrics for as long as I
can remember, I know how every song holds its own
unique story. That's what brings us together here each and
(00:46):
every Tuesday evening to celebrate the voices behind the music
we love. Tonight, I'm so happy to have on the
show Jamcase, an indie band from Australia that was formed
from a group of songwriters. Over the past seven year
is they've released a handful of sogns that have been
well received from independent radio stations around the world.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Special guest, Welcome to Shore Frank. How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Good?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Thank you? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh, you're welcome, man. So of course I have talked
about your cool Australian accent because I just have a
Chicago accent, which means I don't really have one. So
I'm very jealous whenever I talk to people with a
cool Australian or British or Parisian accent. Man. So that's
what we're going to talk about all day.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of accents myself as well.
It's always good to hear someone with a different accent.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, it's very cool. So tell us about your band, man,
I think you're the only one joining us tonight, right, Yeah, Well.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
We started in Perth, really located to Sydney and yeah,
i'd just been brity.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Haven't been really doing many gigs or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
It's more sort of just focusing on writing songs and
getting them out there onto radio stations and out to
the world and all that.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And tell us about your instrument. What's your instrument of choice.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I'm originally a drummer and at the moment the last
couple of years, I've been focusing on improving my guitar
skills and lyric writing and a lots of stuff and that. Yeah,
and then I've got the other guys that come in
and I do all the other stuff that needs to
be done to create what we're creating. So yeah, So
I've been mainly focusing on the guitar and sort of
(02:21):
improving my capabilities of yeah, playing the guitar a lot better.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Tell us about your songwriting process. You guys do it
as a band to do it? Is there one guy
mostly responsible? How does that work?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's mainly me writing, and whenever I sort of come
to a spot where I need some more influence or
different type of influence, I'll get a few of the
other guys that come in give.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Me a helping hand.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, Because the other guys are sort of they're pretty
much part time and they're doing all their own stuff
and all that. So, as I said, I'll come up
with ideas and I'll email them or get in contact
with them sewan what I'm trying to achieve and all that,
and they put the a little FN in there or yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Coming to record the studio recordings and that.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, So I do bulk of the writing, but as
I said, when it sometimes it comes to where I'll
get like a creative block or if I need some
expertise of theirs or something like that to help enhance
the song that I do.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So, yeah, tell us a little bit about what your
band is working on currently for the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Probably writing more tunes, writing some more some more music. Yeah,
so as we're not doing gigs at the moment or
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's more just creating more music.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, we love doing that. We love studio stuff. We
love doing studio work, if you know what I mean,
Like being on the road could be you know, because
like we're not known, Yeah, if you know what I mean,
so sure, Yeah, it's hard to sort of make good
coin they and so we're actually just focused on writing
and creating and getting outbands in the response that we
(04:01):
do get. Yeah, we sort of get a kick out
of that. Yeah, that's our sort of addictions at the.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Moment, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Do you have like a first teacher, who's your first
teacher musically?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, when I was younger, like I started when I
was like you know, like I got into music when
I was really young, but it wasn't until I was
about sixteen when I got an instrument and started sort
of pursuing learning how to be creative on an instrument
and all that. So, but in the early days, like
I used to listened to a lot of ACDC being
(04:32):
from Australia, you know, like a lot of Australian acts
and that. But then we used to get into Alis
Cooper in that fair bit as well when we were younger,
and sort of because I grew up in the Gland
metal days, so the mid eighties and all that, so
like all like skid Row and you know, like Poison,
a lot of stuff and now there were big, major
influences when I was younger, but through the nineties unfortunately
(04:55):
that Die, which I was pretty upset at the time
being young and you know, that was my scene. But
you sort of grow out of it and you still
listen to it, but then you go into more sort
of other styles of music and that.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah. But as in lessons and all that, I've had
the opportunity to study with Greg Missinette over in England.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He's a well known American drummer, played with David Lee
roth and stuff that I studied with Joe Rothman, he's
an educator. I met up with him in England when
I was living in England and studied with him for
a few.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Months, not stuff and that. So, and I did study
a little bit of time at the Strong Institute of
Music and Sydney as well.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
So yeah, so that's that's a little bit of education
I've had, But it was more sort of listening to
records and listen to what they do and try and
sort of put my own spin on it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, you know, musicians, it's very common unfortunately this industry
to be out of work for long periods. How do
you supplement time off and then how do you transition
out of this as quickly as possible to get back
into the music gigs.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I've I've actually been pretty fortunate the last couple of years.
I've sort of had funds that I've sort of saved
up over a long period of time, and I'm sort
of living full time music at the moment, so Martin
just relying on savings that I've developed over say twenty
years and all that. So I'm pretty fortunate the last
couple years. But before that was I was in and out,
(06:20):
like I used to do, laboring and work and all
that stuff, and to pay the bills and all that,
and then when I got home, I used to create,
right and then going to the studio on the weekends
and all that. So it was pretty hectic back in
them days, like at the start, like no, like seven
years ago or even before that, So trying to hold
down a full.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Time job and then try and write, be creative and
all that was.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, it was big days. But it was fun because
I was creating. I love to create. So but now,
as I said, it's it's a little bit easier now
because saving over a period of time. I've got a
good savings account to last me a little time longer
to do it full time. So I'm pretty fortunate at
the moment. Yeah, I just need to write a song
(07:03):
and get a big hit and then I'll be laughing
nothing hopefully.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah. Yeah, what's the worst career advice you've ever gotten?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Rock and Roll's dead. It really depressed me, you know,
it made me think because I often think the music
that got me into I mean, yeah, the type of
music or that got me into actually music died when
(07:33):
I just be able, when I turn eighteen, and I
was ready to rock and roll, you know, going to
the pubs and start playing and all that, and my
industry died, if you know what I mean. Like it
was pretty depressing, you know what I mean, But but
kept on going, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Because like I saw when I was sixteen, which is.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
No I think it was eighty nine or something like that.
So by the time I was eighteen nineteen ready to
rock and roll in the pubs and all that, like
grunge come in and killed the metal scene, if you
know what I mean. Yeah, so you could.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Sort of shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And people used to say that then it was a
little bit depressing, and I'm like, well, no, like I'm
reading rock and roll now, is it now?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's dying if you know what I mean. But that's
that's that type like rocket rock and roll in a
hole hadn't die.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But just saying that I was sort of getting into
was going down in sort of no popularity, if you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, all right, man, tell us about this song that
we're going to hear. What do you want the listener
to take from it?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah? So Byron Bay was written about when I left
w A, I.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Traveled Australia and I was writing music in Perth for
probably about four or five years. And recording and all that,
and then I thought, okay, well I want to sort
of take the next step into my progressing in my career.
So I thought, okay, well I'll head to Sydney. So
as in the song it says, jumped in my car,
(08:55):
headed east with a heart full of hope, So.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That was pretty much what I was I left to do.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And yeah, and it just goes through about just no
traveling on that road over towards Sydney and hopefully break
it into a whole new sort of wonderful scene and
career and hoping that everything goes well and build a
beautiful kingdom and.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Reside in a beautiful place where you can sort of
live for the rest of.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Your life is writing and creating music and doing stuff
that you love.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, that's cool, man. All Right, I'll tell you what.
Let's take a listen and we'll come back and talk tomorrow. Okay, okay, thanks, okay,
all right, everybody check this out. Here we go, jumped
(09:57):
and car.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Heading with a heart full of of home.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Wide open space in front of me just waiting to
be exporm.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
The sun is rising into Foo, brightening the path.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Sea is a dry, sweetness, free sweetness.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Things to come live in the.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Line, I join.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
A hold on the face, knowing that it is a
big future.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
For me, the kingdom and prosperity is awaiting just for me.
It's been in the hat scene Salvas younger.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Woman sing in.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
The feats of dreams.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Longing fall not Ben says to come called long f.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
A Fama place.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
People are peaceful here in Byron Bay.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I wouldn't change a thing on leave this place.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
I'm hearing Bna a Fama place with beautiful people here
in bron bab.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Won't change of things, won't going anywhere around, I'm hearing by.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
All right, Frank, thank you so much for sharing that
song with us.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, I hope you liked it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
If you could re record any song known to man
in any language, what song would you re record? It
could be anyone's, It doesn't have to be yours, in a.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Different language, any language in any I'm not sure re
record any language? What would I do? Don't worry, be.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Happy, don't worry, be happy? All right, man.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
The world's a little bit of turmoil at the moment,
so I think they'll probably go well, man, John, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Don't worry be happy now that song is going to
be stuck in my head. Man, God worry be happy. Yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I haven't actually actually haven't heard it for a long time.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
It was big when I was a teenager, like you
come out in the late eighties, I'm quite sure. Yeah,
so it was massive when it comes Everyone was singing
it's pretty catchy. Man.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Who's the most surprising person to ever compliment your music?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No, No one that's famous or anything like that. No
one or that. Probably family. Family.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, you're surprised that they like your stuff?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, well, family sort of the worst critics, man, I think,
because they can do it and they're sort of allowed
to do it, if you know what I mean, without
being too offensive, if.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know what I mean. Yeah, so, and I know
what they can get away with if you know what
I mean. But yeah, your family's always the worst critic.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I think, yeah, like, well that can be if that
can always be supportive as well, but you know what
I mean, that they can be your worst ones, I
would think, Yeah, I do think.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, yeah, they probably hit my music more than anybody
on the planet. I would say, I totally get that,
all right. How do you think most people should measure
success in their music career.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
How many people they inspire, how many people they that
enjoy the music? I would think, yeah, yeah, how many people?
How many people give them good reactions and feedbacks and
that stuff and that, and how sort of it could
How can it influence the world as well?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But there's many songs out there that can influence a
way that the world can go or the way that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
The country or or people can go, if you know
what I mean. So I think that's today, it's not. Yeah,
I think it's just how you influence the world and
people and how you make them feel.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, Okay, what's the strangest place you've ever played?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
There was a pub in England that I played at.
It was in Reading. It wasn't the strange actually it was.
It was pretty strange. For one thing. It was a
metal club you walked in there.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I think it's called the Red It was read something
red Castle or read something.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I can't remember. But it's near the train station in
Reading train station in.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
England and everything in that, like on the walls and
all that. They're all like if it was like a
picture or like a like an object or whatever. It
like a creative.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Piece on a wall.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
It was all wonky, like it wasn't sort of like
square or like straight edges or anything like that, was
just all wonky and all that was pretty weird. A
and it was all dark and all that, and the
music that we were playing was sort of like country
rock and it was like a metal joint.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So it was pretty weird. Yeah, it was pretty weird.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So like and and there was a guy that always
drunk there looked like I was you Osborne.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I actually went, I said, man, you look like I
was Osborne.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
He said, yeah, might get the light as an English accent. Yeah,
so it was pretty weird, you know what I mean,
like playing in a metal club playing country rock, and
as I said, like all the pictures on the walls
and all the sort of like ornaments and all that
stuff on the wall, all sort of like wonky all
around the pub and all that.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, so it was pretty weird. Yeah, so I'd say
that probably the most weird place.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, what's the most unique instrument you've ever used? That
one of your songs?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
We just use stand and stuff like like bassed drums,
tambourine's acoustic guitars and stuff that's we haven't sort of
really ventured out to any sort of Japanese or Chinese
or Indian sort of typing instruments or things like that.
The only overdubs that we've done is, you know, just
use normal stuff. Yeah, so we haven't sort of really
(18:28):
sort of explored different ways of finding sounds, not stuff
that it's sort of not sort of commonly used. Yeah,
so yeah, we have not, not yet anyway, but maybe
in the future we probably could. But yeah, nothing at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, if you could master an instrument that you don't
play when instrument, would that be piano?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I like piano, Yeah, just because the melody is the
sound the emotion that you can.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Get out of it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It's really dynamic and you can really you know, rock
someone's emotions with that, Yeah, like either.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Sad, happy, or whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah, and really get in there and sort of really
convey what you're trying to bring across emotionally.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah. Yeah, probably piano, Yeah, or even yeah, probably more
so the piano or the harp or something like that.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Okay, the harmonic is pretty cool too, Like you can
really rock with the harmonic, right, especially the blues.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Other than me and other than you? Is there like
an underrated artist that you'd love to see get recognition.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Nothing that really comes to mind, No, not at the moment. Nah,
And I'm trying to think of the past as well.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That's sort of they should have got more fame than
what they should have.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
No, I can't really think of it at the moment.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So tell us about socials. Where can people buy your stuff?
Stream it? You know, where can they find you online?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, so I'm on band camp, so our songs are
on band Camp also YouTube, Like, we haven't got any
film clips set. We're running a tight budget, so we
can't really do film clips.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
But you can go to.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Jam Case Productions on YouTube. You can google that and
with band camp, just band Camp and put in jam.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Case Productions and Facebook as well.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
We're on Facebook and that there's a couple of songs
old songs, really really old songs that don't sort of
really sort of represent what we're doing now on Spotify.
But as I said, they're right from the beginning, So
like I wouldn't really go there, but you probably more
band Camp. You can listen to it for free on
band Camp, but if YouTube will probably if you want
(20:42):
to listen to it absolutely for free. YouTube's the way
to go. Yeah to jam Case Productions, so they're the places.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, Hi, Man, I want to thank you so much
for being on the shot tonight.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, well, we thank you so much for having me man,
It's truly appreciated.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You're very welcome. So thank you to all the listeners
out there for a little bit of your precious time
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