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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you a songwriter? Are you looking to turn your
songwriting passion into a full time gig gig? Whether you
are just at the start of your songwriting journey or
a seasoned industry professional, this show is made for you.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You we well.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews,
and communitating. Now welcome your houst Sarntoo.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Thank you so much for tuning in and welcome back
to the Songwriter Show. I'm your host Soronto so solo
music artists who's been writing lyrics for as long as
I can remember. Words are so important to me, and
that's why I love hosting this show for you every
single Tuesday evening. I believe that every single song is
an important story. Tonight, I'm so excited to have on
the show. Melos Lucas. She's an a ethereal singer, songwriter,
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weavy myth spirit and sound to something both ancient and otherworldly,
Rooted in transcendent folk and shape by the cycles of
death and rebirth. Her music feels like a journey through
the underworld, where surrender transforms into awakening and loss gives
way to luminous expansiveness.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And Now welcome this week's special guest guest welcome to show.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
How are you tonight, Mellos?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I'm good. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You're welcome, so thanks for doing the show. And I
think the fans would be a little excited to get
to know you tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Wonderful. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So tell us a little bit about your instrument. What's
your main instrument? Is it your voice? Is it something else?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I would say it's my voice, which I then use
the guitar to bring out the voice and to create
the shape of sound.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Okay, And how would you describe your sound?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
My sound is often described as ethereal otherworldly, so maybe
it's a whole new category. It's like an ethereal transcendent
folk sound.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Was your family musical at all or are you the
first one to kind of do this in your family?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
My mom had a very deep love for singing, and
it's not something she got to pursue, and so there's
a bit of a lineage in the vocal vocal capabilities
in my family.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And tell us a little bit about your songwriting process.
Is something you do do you have a collaborator? How
does that work for you?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I write my songs on my own, and there's a
few ways that they come into being. So one of
the ways is I'm somebody who does a mumble track.
So i will pick up the guitar, I'll find sort
of a riff or a series of chords that match
the feeling that is in my body that day, and
I'll sort of mumble the first lyrics that just sort
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of come out more like a channel, and then I'll
shape the song around that first section. Other times, something
will just come in out of the blue, and I'll
just get the melody, and I'll get those first couple
of lyric lines with just melody. The third way is
a more experimental process, where I'll feed the guitar into
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an amber speaker and I'll do feedback loops, and then
I can hear in between the frequencies melodies that you
wouldn't be able to hear otherwise, and I'll pull that
melody out and shape a song around that.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Okay, that's pretty cool. Are there any famous musicians that
you admire, respect or try to emulate.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I would say admire and respect, yes, trying to emulate
not so much. York is one of my just long
time since I was pre teen, I've been very attuned
to her sound. You know, the classics Joan Bias, Joni Mitchell,
and then the artist influenced by her will be like
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Alila Diane is one of my favorite folks singers, and
Joanna Newsome and then moving into more beat electronics space.
I really love the work of James Blake. So I
tend to move in and out of different genres and
then leave them together and what influences me but not intentionally.
Does that make sense now perfectly?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I think the old way of doing it was people
were pigeonholed in a genre. Now I think we're all
experimenting and doing cross genre kind of experimentation. M definitely
tell us about you. Howten do you practice? Do you
practice every day once a week singing, writing lyrics? What?
Howfen do you do that?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's usually a daily practice for me, and it just
depends on what I have going on. So right now,
I have a show this month, so most days I'm
going to be doing vocal warm ups. I'm going to
be tuning into the set and rehearsing that, not because
I don't know the songs, but more because I really
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want that feeling and that muscle memory to just be
like water or air that moves through with such ease.
And the songwriting process that really comes more in moody spaces.
So I don't often sit down and say I'm gonna
write today. It's something a feeling comes over me. I
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sit down and I start to write, and the pieces
of the song come in, and that's more organic.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Tell us about this song that we're in here in
a few minutes, what inspire this one?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Magic is alive? That one was a piecing together of
various experiences in my life. At that time. I was
in graduate school. I went to a school for transforming consciousness,
and I was in a really deep metamorphosis, and there
were various spiritual messages and allies and feelings that had
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been coming to me that I wanted to bring through
in the story of the song. And the main character
of the song really is the snake that rises up
the spine, and it's really an ode to that capacity
to stay grounded through transformation and to hear the shimmer
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beneath the silence and call it forth, to develop a
devotion to the quiet spaces and really listening underneath, because
when we do, that's where the magic really unfolds and
comes alive, and so the song is really an invocation
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to that.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Okay, wonderful. So do you have anything exciting for the
fans in the next year that you want to share?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh? Yes, right now, I'm in the dream space and
crafting space of an offering around It's a trauma informed
songwriting and vocal immersion or workshop, if you will, where
we move through the different areas and layers of your
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life to see where can we unlock the sound and
connect you to your own personal story and your own
personal empowerment. I myself, I'm a full time psychotherapist, and
so I work a lot. I work a lot in
the spiritual realms, and I work a lot with the
body and for releasing trauma. And so much of individuals'
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inability to sing or to speak the way they want
to is around that trauma. And so I'm feeling really
passionate about bringing this offering in for the fans and
for the people to see to be able to connect
on those deeper levels and help them find their own story,
their own sound, and their own capacity to bring that out.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Wonderful. Okay, I'll tell you what. Let's take a listen
to your song and then we'll come back and talk
a little more. Okay, great, awesome, All right, everybody check
this out. Here we go.
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Bra praz But in my eyes I feel ways in
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my mind, weary, lot.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Prasstrust speed. These are my just say.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
There's on my skin, skin, my skin, chos mes, smile, snake,
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coil around my small.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
My jacket is as well.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
My jack.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
It is a lie and anemy ivan fs and.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
My bonds empty Cui play Clai.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Play my clay here she's a play spas.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Why why.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
And I am playing hess street.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
She's nice.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
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Speaker 4 (10:40):
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Speaker 6 (11:02):
Stay cil around my small.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Margie margin is on the lie in you you can
feez len close your broad brod.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Bro and my eyes I feel waise.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
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Speaker 3 (12:02):
Thank you so much for sharing that song with us tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Thank you so much for playing it. I'm really excited
for the listeners to get to hear it. And it's
very much medicine for these times right now, as we
are in the Year of the Snake, I have multiple
planets in retrograde, and a lot of people are feeling
this tension, this undoing and the liminal area that we're
in and I'm hoping that this song can be an anthem,
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comfort and anchor for them during such layered spaces of unfolding.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, okay, do you ever get nervous before performance?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Every time? Every time? It not nervous in a way
that I can't do it, It's just the nervous system.
So I've realized that I just have to tune my
nervous system. And that's why I rehearse so much, so
that my body can just handle the amount of energy
and output. And oftentimes when I'm rehearsing, really what I'm
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rehearsing is how to make it through the mistakes though
if my voice breaks or I miss a note. What
I'm really practicing is the fluidity of just keeping going.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. What do you do if
you are live, you know, performing somewhere you make a mistake,
I just keep going.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You just keep going. I was in a folk duo
once and I remember like I just completely forgot what
I was doing in the middle of the song. I
just went somewhere else and I just kind of came
back in when it was time. And when I'm on
my own, if it's just myself and a guitar, I
can kind of gracefully come in and do something, weave
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it back together. Or if there's a really big mess up,
which I've never really had, but if there's a really
big mess up, I'm really not a post just being like,
you know what, hey, everybody, I'm just going to start
this one over. I've seen really big musicians do that,
and I deeply respect it. And there's a lot of
permission there to just be a human. He's making music
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and live on stage, and I actually really love when
someone makes a mistake on stage.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I agree. I think that's a live show, right. It's human.
It's not like we can perfectly edit video and audio
and all these things, but when you're up there, it's
just anything goes right.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, it's that total acceptance of the self. I just
played a small set over the weekend, and I think
there was like one or two moments where my voice
just did a little crack or this or something. And
really what I tuned to in those moments is that
that's not what people are paying attention to. They're really
hooked into the story, the feeling, and to love myself
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enough to feel their love, to feel their appreciation of
the music and that they're probably not picking me apart.
So it's a really wonderful practice in self acceptance.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Tell us about one of the best books you've ever read.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh, wow, we ponder that. Well, this is funny. There's
a series that I've been reading for the last handful
of years, because there's fourteen books in the series and
there's seven hundred to one thousand pages each, and it's
called The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan, and it's
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just this epic narrative of the division of power and
how the masculine breaks the power in the beginning of
time and so the legend's unfold and it's this wonderful
display of how power is manifested through masculine and feminine
and what that could really look like. And you know,
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there's actual magic and sorcery. And I just love anything
that's got fantasy to it and some sort of overarching
story for the evolution of our consciousness that's woven into
myth and story so I can follow along and connect
really deeply.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Tell us about your favorite superhero. Who's your favorite superhero?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh, I mean, for me, my superheroes are going to
be more of the mystics, more of.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
The gurus just even strange.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, they're not actual superheroes, it's just who I would
call a superhero. So for me, okay, the whole Holy
Mother Mary is more of a superhero than the superhero.
I don't know a ton of this, you know, I know,
like of Wonder Woman or you'd have to ask me.
I think more of like which powers would I resonate
to it? Because I'm not as familiar with the superhero world.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
My next question is what powers would you resonate with
or would you want to have?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, and this dimension probably some form of what do
you call it, you know, just being able to operate,
like move from one area to another in a split second.
Teleportation okay, just because traveling is so is so exciting,
but the actual travel is challenging and exhausting. So I
would love to just be anywhere in the world at
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any time.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
All right, What was your first job?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
My first job? There's two diversions of that, So one
of them is I was a little artistic entrepreneur when
I was younger. I loved to make bookmarks and dream
catchers and seldom door to door. And then my official
first job was in a chocolate shop on the Plaza
in Kansas City, where I'm from, and it fulfilled my
first dream, which was my whole dream when I was younger,
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was to be a chocolate year so I could eat
as much chocolate as I wanted whenever, And so I
got to get that one off the bucket list.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Is there like a favorite podcast you have for a
commute or for just pleasure.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yes, it's The Emerald is my absolute, absolute favorite, where
he goes really deep into the mythopoetic, archetypal natural world
and it's always inspiring and deeply connects me each time.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Tell us about a cool road trip you've been on.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I think one of my favorite road trips was when
I was figuring out where I wanted to go in
my career, in my life, and so when I was
twenty seven or twenty eight, I just got in the
car and I packed for every season and I headed
southwest and I ended up in Arizona and California, then
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down to Mexico, back to California, and then I flew
to Kawhai and came back. My favorite version of a
road trip is where there's not an end date and
you don't really know what's going to happen, and it's
just that magic of possibility.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
If there's a piece of advice you wish you hadn't
ignored when you started out, well, can you tell us
what that was?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I didn't ignored you know that. I don't know if
that resonates. I feel like I've just I'm a little
bit of an anarchist when it comes to doing things
in a certain way. But it's more around the advice
that people would give would be like, you have to
keep the momentum going, and you just really have to
push hard and you have to meet these expectations. And
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my world has been more sort of undoing that and saying, actually,
I can take rest when I need and music look
different and performing can look different, and we can just
dream into that and find a new way of being.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So I'll tell you what. Tell us about where fans
can find your music, where they can buy stream your
stuff online.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
They can buy music on band camp and on iTunes,
and then they can stream anywhere that streaming is available,
so iTunes, Spotify, SoundCloud, all all major spaces. It's pretty accessible.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I want to thank you so much for being on
the show tonight was an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Thank you so much for having me. It was lovely
to get to speak.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You're very welcome man. Tell the fans tonight we both
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