John MacDonald: Has the Supreme Court got too big for its boots?

The highest court in the land is too big for its boots.  

That’s what the guy who runs the New Zealand Initiative think tank is saying today. Roger Partridge is his name - he’s also a lawyer and King’s Counsel.  

And he says the Supreme Court needs to be reined-in because he thinks it’s trying to re-write the laws made by Parliament.   

One of the examples he’s giving to support his argument is the Court ruling two years ago that the voting age of 18 discriminates against younger people. That’s not the Supreme Court’s job, he says.  

But I disagree. Because I think the Supreme Court should be free to decide for itself whether it’s going to consider a particular case, and the judges at the Supreme Court should be free to decide and say what they like after they’ve considered those cases.  

The alternative is the Supreme Court being given restrictions and barriers and not having the freedom the highest court in the land should have. And when I describe it as the highest court in the land - that’s exactly what it is.  

It is the court of last resort, for want of a better term. And it has been since 2004, when it was formed to replace the option of New Zealanders taking their cases to the Privy Council in London.  

One of the reasons given for setting-up our own Supreme Court 20 years ago was that having something based here in New Zealand would be fairer than expecting people who wanted to go to a court of last resort to have to go to London and the Privy Council.  

So, the argument was that it would be fairer for people who couldn’t even entertain the idea of appealing something through the Privy Council because of the expense. And let’s face it, running back to the mother country because you weren’t happy with how your case was handled here in the colonies is pretty old hat.  

But where Roger Partridge from the New Zealand Initiative is coming from today is that he thinks the Supreme Court has gone beyond the job it was given 20 years ago.  

He’s saying that the court is over-reaching and seems to have given itself the power to re-write legislation it does not like. And he wants Parliament to tell the court to get back into its box. Or to get back into its lane and to make decisions based on the law, without criticising the law.  

If you want to think about it this way, it seems to me that what Roger Partridge is concerned about is the Supreme Court here ending up like the Supreme Court in the United States, which does seem to have quite a bit of sway over federal and state laws.  

There was the case two years ago of the Supreme Court in America overruling the decision back in 1973 that abortion is a fundamental human right – the Roe v Wade case. It has had a lot of people there talking about whether the Supreme Court is having way too much influence, and I see there are people in the States right now calling for it to be reined in. 

Like Roger Partridge from the New Zealand Initiative is doing today in relation to our Supreme Court. 

So let’s take one of the cases that he says shows how the Court has got too big for its boots and why he thinks it shows that the court needs to be reined in: the Supreme Court’s ruling on whether the voting age should be 18.  

Roger Partridge says that what the court did there was it looked at the argument from the outfit that wants to lower the voting age —this is the “Make It 16” crew— and he’s saying that it didn’t just consider the argument from a lawful perspective - but it also considered how social values might have changed since the passing of the Electoral Act in 1993, which sets the voting age at 18. And since the passing of the Local Electoral Act in 2001, which does the same. It says the voting age is 18.  

And he says that’s not the Supreme Court’s job. It is the politicians —or it is Pa

Episode Transcript

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The highest court in the land is too big for
its boots. The highest court in the land this is
the Supreme Court is too big for its boots. That's
what the guy who runs the New Zealand Initiative think
tank is saying today. Roger Partridge is his name. He's
a lawyer. In fact, he's a king counsel or a
King's council and he says the Supreme Court needs to

(00:35):
be reigned in because he reckons it's trying to rewrite
the laws made by Parliament. Now. One of the examples
he's giving to support his argument is the Court ruling
two years ago that the voting age of eighteen discriminates
younger people. He says, that's not the Supreme Court's job.

(00:55):
But I disagree. I disagree because I think the Supreme
Court should be free to side for itself a whether
it's going to consider a particular case. And also the
judges at the Supreme Court. This is the b bit.
The judges should be free to decide and say what

(01:15):
they like after they've considered those cases. What's the alternative well,
the alternative is the Supreme Court being given restrictions and
barriers and not having the freedom the highest court in
the land should have. And when I described it as
the highest court in the land, that's exactly what it is.
It is the what is it. It's the court of

(01:38):
last resort for want of a better term, and it
has been since two thousand and four when it was
set up to replace the option of New Zealanders taking
their cases to the Privy Council in London. Remember that.
And one of the reasons given for setting up our
own Supreme Court twenty years ago was that having something
based here in New Zealand would be fairer than expecting

(02:01):
people who wanted to go to some sort of court
of last resort to expect them to have to go
to Lane, London and go to the Privy Council. So
the argument was that it would be fairer for people
who couldn't even entertain the idea of Privy Council on
the expense and all of that, let's face it, running
back to the mother country because you weren't happy with
how your case was heard here in the colonies. It's

(02:22):
pretty old hat and it was old hat even twenty
years ago. But where Roger Partridge from the New Zealand
Initiative is coming from today is that he thinks the
Supreme Court has gone beyond the job it was given
twenty years ago. He's saying that the Court is overreaching.
He's saying that it seems to have given itself the

(02:42):
power to rewrite legislation that doesn't like. This is what
he's saying, and he wants Parliament to tell the Court
to get back into its box, or to get back
into it, to get back into its lane and to
make decisions based on the law without criticizing the law.
If you want to think about it this way, it
seems to me that what Roger Partridge is concerned about

(03:06):
is the Supreme Court here ending up like the Supreme
Court in the United States United States, which does doesn't
It does seem to have quite a bit of sway
over federal and state laws. There was a case two
years ago Roe versus Way. Do you know this one
where the Supreme Court overruled a Supreme Court ruling back
in nineteen seventy three that said abortion as a fundamental

(03:28):
human right. And since then it's had a lot of
people talking about the Supreme Court and the States having
way too much influence, and I to see people right
now are calling for it to be rained in, like
Roger Partridge from the New Zealand Initiative was doing today
in relation to our Supreme Court. So let's take one
of the cases and I mentioned it that he says
shows how the court here has got too big for

(03:50):
its boots and why he thinks it shows that the
Court needs to be rained in. This is the Supreme
Court's ruling on the voting age. Roger Partridge says that
what the Court did there was it looked at the
argument from the outfit that wants the voting age lower.
This is the make it sixteen crew. And he's saying
today that it didn't just consider the argument from a

(04:10):
lawful perspective, but it also considered how social values might
have changed since the Electoral Act in nineteen ninety three,
which sets the voting age at eighteen, and since the
passing of the Local Electoral Act in two thousand and one,
which does the same thing. Says the voting age is eighteen,
and he says that's not the Supreme Court's job. He says,

(04:32):
it's the politicians or it's parliament who should decide whether
this particular law, for example, or any law for that matter.
Roger Partre says it's parliament that should decide whether things
like the voting age are still consistent with society's values. Now,
if you agree with him, let me ask you this,

(04:54):
does that mean you also think judges in our other
courts shouldn't pay attention to society's views on ram raids,
for example, and they shouldn't consider how much we've had
a gut sort of ram raids. When a ram raid
a front up and court answer me that.

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