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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the Inside Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Us Dogs. It'd be good morning. It is six after
five Monday, the nineteenth of August. Great to have your
company across New Zealand this morning. Nick Tuffley will be
with us shortly. This new quarterly report from asb Adri Sorry.
Adam Cooper is with us. The new South Africa Challenge
for the All Blacks. Chris Cartle is here just before
six this morning. This is the boy racers crashing into
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the police cars in Hamilton. Absolutely overwhelmed at the weekend,
plus the extra bread tests that they want our cops
to do. Gavin Gray is in the UK the agenda
and it is Monday, the nineteenth of August. Ukrainian officials
say they've destroyed a second key bridge inside Russian territory
as part of their incursion into the Kursk and Blgarod regions.
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The incursion is now into its second President Vodimir Zelenski
has asked Western leaders to lift restrictions on weapons to
allow Ukraine to strike deeper into Russian territory. Ukrainian Army
Major Colonel Vladimir Amelian says there are limitations to how
far the incursion can go.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We controls this territory, we called it and we progress definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We cannot marsh to Moscow as prebosion tripe to do.
Russia say they have struck down four Ukrainian drones which
we're targeting the regions. US Secretary of State Anthony Blinkern
is traveling to Israel to push for a ceasefire deal
with Kamas. The CIA's director, William J. Burns, put a
proposal to both science last week, saying he hopes to
conclude negotiations this week very optimistic. That would include a
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six week ceasepire deal. Also, the key issue is where
the IDF troops can remain inside Gaza after a deal
is signed. A report from the Helling Clark Foundation recommends
more transparency and stricter rules around political lobbyists and donations.
Health Coalition ALTED wants a public register of lobbyists, meetings
with decision makers, and a code of conduct made mandatory.
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Public Health Infrastructure Committee current here David Gallas says they
currently rely on ministerial diaries.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And they do not provide the breadth or depth or
detail of information that is required to reassure people.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge You for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture beds and a play at store News.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Talk said, be it sounds like Blincoln's going to have
a hard time trying to get a ceasefire deal in
the next week. This is his ninth trips since October seven,
and the talks are basically a standstill over whether the
IDEF can stay or must withdraw completely from the Gaza
strip or not. Talks are happening in Doha, wrapped up
at the weekend, and Hamas says any talk of progress
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is just an illusion. So there you go. Also, this
morning there's a new health and safety report out and
I know how excited you get about health and safe safety,
but there's some numbers in here for you which I
thought were interesting. This is a report from the Business
Leaders Health and Safety Forum. The fatality rate in New Zealand,
this is workplace accidents is sixty percent higher than in
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Australia and five hundred percent higher than in the UK.
Apparently we have quite similar legislative settings, as they like
to call them what we have fewer inspectors and we're
less proactive with what we do. Brook van Velden's reviewing
our health and safety laws at the moment. But I
would have thought that a lot of that would come
down to the higher risk injuries that we have. Industries
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we have in New Zealand, like forestry and farming. You know,
there's always a quad bike accident. Terrible as they are,
you know, they are rural. There are more variables, less
things you can control in a forestry setting or a
farming setting compared to a factory. I would have thought,
and I think those numbers are played out when you
look at the graph by region the worst Gisbon, Southland, Otago, Canterbury.
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The best Auckland and Wellington, which are obviously you know,
easier to control, easier environments to control. Ten after five.
Also this morning, guess what is happening this week? It's
the Democrats convention in Chicago. Karmala Harris is going to
be well. It's her first official convention as the official nominee.
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Thousands of anti Israeli protesters or pro Palestinian protesters, whatever
you want, to call them are going to be there
and also going drum roll, please Cindra A Durn Yes,
a spokesperson has confirmed just Cinda Adern is going to
attend the conference, participating in a panel for the Center
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for American Progress Action Fund, which is a left wing
think tank, and the topic this is interesting how to
address the anxiety of our times, advanced social policy to
solve problems at af fect everyday life and begin to
heal our nation. Eleven after five back with the ASB
quarterly Survey.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Next news and views you trust to start your day
is Billy Edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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Speaker 2 (05:17):
Welcome to Monday morning. Just gone thirteen after five. In
the UK, they are banning, well not banning, but they're
adding misogyny to a list of extreme ideologies. Extreme misogyny
will be treated as a form of extremism on a
new government plans. That's according to the Home Office. We're
going to go to Gavin Gray just b four just
after the five thirty news. Right now we're seeing early
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signs of a turnaround for the economy. Asb's quarterly forecast
shows signs in fation will fall below three percent over
the second half of this year and remain well contained
beyond twenty twenty four. It comes after, of course, the
ocr was dropped slightly last week. Nick Tuffley's The ASB
Chief Economists, good morning, Thanks morning, Good to have you
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on the show. Most importantly, I think because people now
feel like something is turning a corner household spending, when
are we going to see it start ramping up? Is
it straight away? Is it you know, in six months?
Is it Christmas?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
It's still going to take some time. I think we'll
start to see some early signs trickling through. What we've
got really is a number of people who will still
be under pressure for some time, because even though mortgage
rates have started to come down, there will still be
some people where it will take a little bit until
they actually do see a change in their own own
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pay packet. Fortunately, what we're seeing is is that a
lot of people when their mortgages come up for renewal,
they've tended to opt for a short term like six
months or twelve months. So the benefits will start to
flow through, but we just need to take be a
little bit patient.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, the time leg should be quicker at this end
of the cycle rather than the other end coming in right.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yes, we've had a lot of people who have been
sitting there so hope, hopefully waiting for interest rates to
come down. And had a very early Christmas present last
week with rapes coming down, so that look it will help.
And the other thing is just the mood as well,
Like it's been evident for a lot of this year,
just how many people have just been holding out a
question of and asked so much as of when's my
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mortgage rate coming down? And now people know. Businesses also
know as well that their customers will be seeing their
own financial pressures at ease over time too.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I went to visit a business on Friday. It's somebody
who I do work with. They're like a creative sort
of talent talent agency type place and they relyant on
ad spend and they have walked into the office and
they looked very busy, which I didn't quite expect. They
were hiring two new staff and they said they're one
of the first industries. You know, everyone sort of cuts
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advertising as then as there's a recession, they're one of
the first to feel it when it goes down, but
also the first to feel it when it's on the
way back up, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, and there's going to be lots of industries like that.
And I think the next story you're talking about is, look,
we've noticed over the last month or so, since there
was speculation and interest rates would fall fairly quickly, that
there has been a bit of a change in move
and you will see those various sectors that depend on
where they are and the whole sequence of events, like
say the housing market is one where confidence comes back
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fairly quickly, as well as one example of an industry
that will turn around a bit quicker.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thanks so much for that, Nick Tuffy with us the
ASP Chief Economists, just gone sixteen minutes seventeen minutes after
five on your Monday morning. We're going to talk later
to Chris Cahill from the Police Association. This is the
report you would have seen at the weekend. The government
wants our police to be doing more breath tests. They're
going to start doing drugs saliva tests and they want
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fifty thousand of those done a year, two hundred thousand
extra breath tests. It was interesting looking at the stats
in the report about what's causing our accidents, our high
risk and death accidents, alcohol a contributing factor in thirteen
percent of them, speed twenty four percent, restraints twenty one
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percent of those who died or were seriously injured were unrestrained.
In other words, no seat belt twenty one percent. And
I wonder because the emphasis I think here is on
contributing factor, right, it's not the reason. It's a contributing factor.
And are you more likely to speed if you're drunk? Probably?
Are you less inclined to wear a seatbelt if you're drunk, probably?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
So.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I guess killing one of those but bad turn a phrase,
But dealing with one of those might help deal with
some of the others too, anyway. Chris Carhill on that
just before six.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Playing Store.
News Talk SI, they.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Five twenty lots of focus this week will go on
the Democrats convention in Chicago, but also still a lot
of focus on Trump, not what he's scripted to say,
but what he says when he goes off script. And
a lot of people criticize him for this because they say, well,
you should stay on message, but that's not really what
he's known for, is it. And if you're one of
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the supporters, Republican supporters going to one of these rallies,
you want to see a bit of off the cuff,
and he certainly did that yesterday.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
People say, be nice.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Have you heard her laugh?
Speaker 7 (10:24):
That is the laugh of a crazy person. That is
the laugh of a crazy It's a laugh of a lunatic.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Have you heard.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
There? You go? I don't think he's going to stop
doing that anytime soon, and those who try probably wasting
their time. I would think. Twenty one minutes after five,
Ryan Bridge, Sport, We're going to go this morning to
Adam Cooper who's in Wellington. Adam, good morning morning, Ryan.
How are you very well? Thank you? So we won
against Argentina. That was a good go. Well, it got
a little bit boring towards the end, but that's because
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we knew we were going to win well exactly. And
isn't that a nice per to be?
Speaker 8 (11:00):
And as an All Blacks fan, I guess, especially after
the real disappointment of Test one against Argentina just a
week prior it was hard to believe that only seven
days separated what we saw from the All Blacks. I
thought that that clearly just I thought gone back to
the basics, that they knutted down exactly what they'd planned
to do in the first Test in Wellington, but just
weren't able to execute. So personally, I just think you've
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got a credit that the forward pack, and especially the
leaders of the forward pack, the likes of Artis sav
They just Jeff from the get go, you could just
tell that they were going to be physically dominant during
this game. They got on the scoreboard very early on,
and I think a lot of the disappointments we were
talking about this time last week were overcome forty to
ten to sort of, you know, go back against that.
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The result they had last week was really impressive, and
across the park, a lot of the people who had
question marks around their performances from the week before, the
likes of TJ. Peninata and Damian McKenzie in the back line,
I thought they certainly played themselves into continuing on with
those roles as they head now to South Africa. But
also Ryan obviously impressive that this thirty year unbeaten run
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at eden Park continues. It's amazing that the fortress that
the main stadium in New Zealand provides to the national team.
So yeah, a lot of happy faces, but it does
get tough. Now they can get this one against Argentina,
but it all goes on the line again when they
had to two tough, brutal tests in South Africa in
a couple of weeks time.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I feel whenever people talk about this winning streak
at eden Park, I just get nervous for whoever loses,
because it will happen one day and I would just
hate to be that coach, hate to be that team.
Adam Israel Adisonia's the UFC losses. It's a big deal.
Is he going to retire, Well, he's.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
Very emphatically sort of talking down that retirement chat at
the moment, but it is you know, once people do
start to have uncharacteristic uncharacteristic trends or features, it's always
a question that pops up. I mean, he's now had
two losses in a row for the first time in
his career. It was the first time he lost in submission,
so that was, you know, quite a surprise in terms
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of the way things panned out to Dreka's duplas in
the UFC middleweight title fight yesterday. But I think we
all know and we've come to know Israel utisign you
quite well over the years, how you know, headstrong years
in terms of just wanting to go back and work hard.
And he made that comment right after the fight in
Perth yesterday. He sort of followed up his opponents who said, hey,
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it might be time out of sun your retires, But
is he just going to head straight back to Auckland,
straight back to the gym and get his career back
on track. So I do not think we will see
him even ponder the question of retirement anytime soon, and
wanting to get back to the top and add to
those two titles he has.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Anthony has checked the show to say, Hi, ask Adam
to add yesterday's NPC rugby scores into the sports news.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
Please there in the sports news, and I can tell
you Wellington had a good win yesterday and I can
tell you why cat I had a good one over Counties.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Here we go, brilliant. I was wondering whether I'd be
putting you on the spot there, but you're all acrosst Adam,
thank you very much. Adam Cooper Zebe's Sport out of
our Wellington office this morning, twenty four minutes after five
when we come back, actually just after the news at
five point thirty, we've got Gavin Gray out of the UK.
Also Chris Carhill coming your way from the Police Association.
Did you see the video of the guy and the
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girl in the ute in Hamilton just ramming the back
of a police car and there were police officers trying
to get into it. Have a listen to this jumping
out of the way. Is this idiot? The reverses into
a police car. Absolute scenes in Hamilton. We'll ask Chris
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Carle about that. Twenty five after five.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio how It
By News.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Talks at me outrage at the weekend over the Human
Rights Commission. This is from some corners at least. The
chief Human Rights Commissioner has been announced as doctor Stephen Rainbow.
And he was once accused a q of being transphobic
or anti trans And it's one of those terms that
can quickly change the tone or the perception of an
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article that you're reading. And I remember this from the
University College campus protests over in the States. You would
read the CNN copy on the story and it would
say they were pro Palestinian protesters. You would read the
Fox News version and it would say that anti Israel.
Who decides what you are? If you're pro one thing,
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does it automatically make you anti the other? Women's rights campaigners?
And this was the point that I think was being
made about doctor Stephen Rainbow the women's rights campaigners. Do
they hate or are they anti trans people? Or are
they just pro women's rights as they would claim that
they are. And equally, just because you want to cease
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fire in Gaza, it doesn't mean you're antisemitic, does it.
There seems to be a polarization happening here. You're this
or you're that, or you're all of your or your
nothing or it's black and white, And we do it
in the media all the time. We're probably the most
guilty of it, I have to say. And whoever is
shouting the loudest, I think tends to get dominate the
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news cycle. But then again, what's that based on? Like tweets?
Is that really how you decide or define what someone
feels about an issue? I always found it odd when
it came to abortion, which is a very divisive issue. Obviously,
people feel very personally about this issue. Are you pro
life or anti abortion? Are you women's choice or pro abortion?
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Is anybody really pro abortion? You know what I mean.
You might want women to choose, but surely nobody's actually
pro abortion. I've really got no idea how to resolve
this problem of labeling in the media other than when
somebody's labeled anti something. Nowadays, I'm inclined to find out why,
how and if, to my mind at least their motivations
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aren't just pro something else. Twenty nine after five Ryan
Bridge shut car Hills Head Just before sex, we'll ask
him about that boy racer business in Hamilton over the weekend. Also,
they want two hundred thousand extra breath tests out of
the police each year. Can they really achieve it? We'll
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ask them just before sex.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Is swey?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That's the beasts.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New
Zealand's furniture bids and a playing store news talks.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It'd be.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
Day let that can thanks Jun myself every week.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Care if you don't tell they said to you more.
Good morning, it is twenty four minutes away from six.
This IS's favorite song, apparently Leo. Every time after five
point thirty it's country. It's the Country half hour with Leo. Anyway,
It's quite a good song, isn't it good? Happy one
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for a Monday morning? Because we are happy on a Monday,
aren't we. Lots of people texting in about the boy
Races in Hamilton, Ryan, Every news report tells us what
the boy racers did, but we don't hear whether any
of these delinquents got arrested. I'll have an update on
that for you shortly. We're gonna speak to Chris Carhill
just before six. Ryan. This is from Larry. If the
cops were packing side guns when the bill says, if
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the cops were packing side guns when the wanker is
backed into their car, they could have blown the escapees
tires out, all right, Bill twenty three to six, Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We're going to our reporters around the country this morning,
and we are starting in Dunedin with Callum Cullum Proctor.
Good morning, You've got an update on this man who
died in a boating tragedy column.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
Yeah, morning, Ryan, This is Gareth Pearson, who died after
a boat capsized near Jack's Bay in the Catlands on Saturday.
A search was launched shortly before noon after police were
alerted at around ten forty am. Another man was rescued
on some nearby rocks alongside a dog. They were celebrating
his sixtieth birthday. He's being remembered for his big personality.
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His partner Jenny Lorman's posted a tribute online saying he
was loved by many and had lived with her for
many years in Australia. And this tragedy comes just two
weeks after three died when a boat capsized in Southlands Riverton.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
How's the weather today, Chile.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
Yeah it is and we have a snowfall warning for
our northern motorway so we're waiting for that. Occasional showers
snowed near sea level today for US. Ryan Strong Southwesters
and six the High Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Claire Edwards in christ Church this morning. Claire, good morning.
I hope you've had a good weekend. Tell me about
this another set back for the Cathedral Square.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
Another Ryan Look, the businessman behind the ambitious hospitality project
The Grand which was hoped to be a big part
of revitalizing the square is now facing liquidation after failing
to meet a funding hurdle. Darren Rainbird had planned to
open the ground in the old Chief Post Office building
in twenty twenty one. Had used crowdfunding to raise a
lot of the needed funds in return for company shares.
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Plans have been pushed back multiple times before. That was
because of COVID, rising costs and issues with securing funding
along the way. He's now written to shareholders saying his
own home will be sold and a move to voluntary
liquidation is likely this Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's not good for progress, is it. How's the weather clear?
Speaker 10 (20:44):
Well, it's rainy here in christ Church, been snow elsewhere
in North Canterbury etc. Overnight snow will fall today to
about five hundred meters. Southwesterlies strong, the high only nine
with minus four overnight.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Thank you Maxis and Wellington Hamax. What's cr what's the
go with your public transport?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
So Metlink has done their annual survey assessing how happy
people are with how things are running, and while the
trains may not run on weekends, the ferries seem to
be a catastrophe waiting to happen. This shows that ninety
two percent of Wellingtonians are actually pretty happy with how
things are going. That's out of three thousand respondents, down
a single percent on last year, but still high. The
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Johnsonville line getting the best response. The Stark exception widered APPA,
which recently laid new tracks that turned out to be
too narrow, so the trains had to slow down, meaning
every journey arrived late. Only eight percent of wider Appens
satisfied with their line. Also, interestingly, twenty percent fall in satisfaction.
We're regarding fair value for money that coinciding with the
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fair subsidies coming to an end.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, and also I guess cost a living too. The
wided Apper line is a mess because although it's probably
saved by the fact because I've done that line a
couple of times and you just you're right, you come
over the room attackers and well under the room attackers
and then you just slow right down. But it's probably
saved by the road, which, now that they've dropped the
speed limit, takes ages to get to Masterton. So that's
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right anyway. Weather today max.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
More stormy weather, rain heavy at times, thunderstorms possible for
most of the day's strong Southerly's twelve the High Central.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Thank you, Wendy Petres in Auckland this morning. Good morning,
not Anna, good to see you again. One of the
country's biggest schools clamping down on zone fraud.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yes, nine students have been kicked out of one of
New Zealand's biggest schools after zone fraud. Enrollment fraud as
spiked a schools deal with ballooning roles amid increasing immigration
and info housing. Auckland's McLean's College requires parents to prove
they live in zone when enrolling their children. Last year,
it had to kick nine pupils out after discovering they
were fraudulently enrolled. Four were re enrolled after their families
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then moved into the school zone. The school did a
blanket request for power bills proving the addresses of the
roughly seven hundred pupils enrolled since July last year.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Wow, so you need to give a bill or like
a bank or what is to say? Can you not
just ring up the power company and say I live
at this address when you don't? Good point rules like
well exactly, maybe that's why there's so much fraud house
weather today.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Wendy, Well, yes, you know it's been a bit like
a weekend day. Occasional showers frequent this afternoon, squarely thunderstorms possible,
strong southwesterlyes and a fifteen degree high.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Brilliant. Thank you, It is eighteen minutes away from six
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Speaker 2 (24:30):
Our UK Europe correspondents. Gavin Gray with US Live this
morning at quarter to six. Gavin, a British Foreign Office official,
has resigned.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Indeed our protest. What he says is basically the UK
government potentially being complicit in war crimes. He's talking about
arms sales to Israel.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Here.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Mark Smith, who is believed to be a relatively judia
member staff based at the British Embassy in Dublin, has
made his resignation letter very open, sending it to a
lot of different government officials hundreds in total, Embassy staff,
special advisor to Foreign Office ministers too, saying that each
day colleagues were witnessing quote clear and unquestionable examples of
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war crimes and breaches of international humanitarian law by Israel
in Gaza, something incidentally, of course, which Israel completely denies.
He said, there really is no justification for the UK's
continued arm sales to Israel. This is a little tricky,
a little embarrassing for the government, which won't like the
fact that this has been publicized so much. And while hundreds
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of officials in the UK and Europe have registered unprecedented
levels of dissent at policies towards Israel because of Gaza
and the war there, of course, there have been very
few cases of what you might call principled resignations and
so therefore this is rare and embarrassing for the British government. Now,
if you're wondering how much is paid and sent, well,
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the UK granted licenses weapons exports to Israel worth about
a billion New Zealand dollars since two thousand and eight,
the UK government really playing the scale of the supply down,
saying it's relatively small, at about ninety million New Zealand
dollars back in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
All right, Kevin, very quickly, we've got time for this
fishing competition of sorts in Switzerland.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
Yeah, so apparently. I mean, you know, when you see
the lakes in Switzerland, they are stunningly beausible. But the
waters conceal a hidden truth, and that is that for
many years they were used as a dumping ground by
the Swiss authorities and the Swiss military. They were dumping
grounds for old munitions, and that really was because they
thought they could be safely stored there. Thousands of tons
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of munitions are stored in the different waters of the
different lakes, some just six meters below the surface, others
more than two hundred meters below the surface. And now
the Swiss government's offering money to come up with the
best solution to get them out. The fear is they
could explode, but the fear as well they may leach
out PNT, which is very toxic to the environment. So
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the Swiss Events Department is offering roughly ninety thousand New
Zealand dollars for the best idea to get it out.
Ryan get their application for men.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Gavin. Thank you Gavin Gray UK. You're correspondent with us
this morning, just gone twelve minutes away from six Bryan Bridge.
So the government wants police to do an extra two
hundred thousand breath tests per year and also to start
drug saliva testing. They want fifty thousand of those done
every year. It comes after yesterday, well actually at the weekend,
(27:35):
boy races over seemingly overwhelming police in Hamilton and one
of them ramming a cop car. Have listen pretty frightening
and the police officers were standing at look like standing
(27:58):
at the door of their car, had a jump out
of the way. Very dangerous stuff. Chris Carhill's the Police
Association president. He is with US Live this morning. Good morning,
Good morning, Ryan. First, what did you think watching that video?
Speaker 12 (28:10):
Yeah, it's pretty horrific, isn't it? And that's through these
events seem to have made a dramatic change. They were
driving events that were bad and incredibly annoying and at
times a bit dangerous. Now they seem to be disorder
offenses where people are there to almost bake the police,
take on the police, and it sees who to do
the craziest thing there and get the biggest video is
(28:32):
the winner. And it's pretty concerning. I mean, those officers
could have been seriously hurt. It's very marginal.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
What do you do about that? If they're filming it
and it's almost becomes a sport in and of itself,
do you just not turn up to these events?
Speaker 12 (28:45):
Well? I think they because they're already doing I mean
we're having even when out when the police aren't there.
People have been put at risk people injured as well. Look,
I think there has to be some penalty for those
that are actually posting this stuff, and certainly the ones
that are inciting on those posts. You know, it's telling
police to people to turn up, telling people to throw
(29:05):
things at the police, these sorts of things. I think
there has to be something that's cracked down on as
well as not just sitting up at the event.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Sim In Brown wants police doing more breath tests. They
also want to start that drug saliva test and let's
start with the breath test for a start extra two
hundred thousand a year up to I think it's three
point four million, sorry, three point three million now up
from three point one million roadside alcohol breath tests. Is
that a reasonable ask?
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Well, it's a bigger ask. I mean, you know, we
currently have a target of around that three million, but
I think police have only men has hit it twice
in the last ten years. And that just gives you
an idea how the police are. There's a lot of
other work going on out there, and you know something
you'll have to give. I think there again, pat stuff,
you are police from the beat, You've got the retail crime,
(29:54):
and we still have them down with the issue of
family harm and mental health. So let's go to be
a big stretch for police to be able to achieve this, and.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They're doing one and the other with the drug testing.
How long? What is the process for the drug testing?
Is that as easy as a breath test?
Speaker 12 (30:11):
Now that's not I mean at this the proposals you'll
do two mouth swabs, so and then there's variations of
that depending on what the results are and what the
person lecks to do. But I would have thought that's
going to take a minimum sort of fifteen minutes, maybe longer.
And so you work out fifty thousand, that's about twelve
(30:32):
and a half thousand officer as a year. So that's
an incredibly increase. And we're at the police as well,
so it's going to be a real challenge. And I
think the question that I'll be asking the minister at
plice what's going to give Where do you want them
to stop doing? Because you can't just keep adding more on?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, absolutely, Chris, thanks so much for your time. Chris,
can't hooldy police Assacia. Oh actually, just before you go, Chris,
we've had a text come in from someone who works
at Police saying that there's some redundancies apparently going to
be announced today or tomorrow. Are you aware of thotse Yeah.
Speaker 12 (31:02):
There will be a big announcement I think probably tomorrow's
staff for getting effects in the next twenty four hours
sort of thing. So I don't want to say two much,
but here there's certainly a proposal that we're going to
get all the details of in the next couple of days,
which we'll be watching closely. They will be police employees
or non sworn staff, not sworn police officers, but a
(31:24):
lot of those staff are what actually enabled police officers
to go out and do their job every day, so
we'll be watching that very closely.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Any idea of numbers at the stage, Chris, Look, the.
Speaker 12 (31:35):
Figure that was bended around at the start was in
their one hundred and seventy five range. But we just
want to see what has actually been settled on now
that they've gone through a process.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Thanks so much for your tom really appreciated, Chris Carhel,
Police Association President, eight two six.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
The first word on the News of the Day earlier
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith, City New Zealand's furniture
beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
City youay, it's Monday morning, five away from six. So
Chris Khill the Police Association, just revealing there that he
expects about one hundred and seventy odd jobs to go
at police, not in frontline officers, but more back off
of stuff. I'm sure we'll have more on that in
the next couple of days, won't we. Mike Costkins here,
Good morning, Mike. Goodnes See.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
When was the last time you were pulled over for
the you know, the drinking? I couldn't tell you, See,
I don't think I can't. I honestly can't remember. Its staircase.
We're we're on the road every weekend up into the country,
so we go like an hour north in our back,
so we're there for a couple of hours literally every week.
And I did this whole thing of you know, we're
going to have three point three million of this, and
(32:41):
I just can't work out where the resources. When was
the last time you saw a cop? When was the
last time you were ever pulled over? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
It's just what time are you driving there? Though?
Speaker 12 (32:50):
Well?
Speaker 7 (32:50):
Yeah, during that's that'll be their argument.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
You know, most of it's done at high risk times.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Was that is that I mean. Now, is that two o'clock,
five o'clock, nine o'clock, ten o'clock.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Is it suburb?
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Is it the middle of nowhere?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
If I was going to drink drive, I would probably go,
you know, lunchtime.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Would you or you know, I'll see Friday afternoons. That
what we're saying. So Friday afternoon two thirty, Friday afternoon.
Probably wouldn't mind yourself.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
It's just I mean, good luck to them. Let's hope
they get lots of people if it's a problem, all
of that sort of thing. I just all I know
is I haven't been pulled over for twenty or thirty years.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Literally have not been pulled over.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
I honestly cannot remember the last time or anything.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
For anything.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
If I got pulled over at the very start of
this job sixteen years ago, I got pulled over by
a cop who wanted to look at the engine of
my car because he saw it was a cool car.
And apart from that, that's it.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Consider yourself lucky. Anyway, we'll talk.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Tom Brown about all of this after seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Have a great day. I will catch you tomorrow. Mike's
here next.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
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