April 2, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Thursday 3rd April 2025, Minister for mental health Matt Doocey joins Andrew Dickens to talk on major report into mental health.
A slew of new government changes will hold cowboy builders more responsible for poor quality work, AUT Professor in construction John Tookey, tells Andrew Dickens how it will make a difference.
All eyes are on America as Donald Trump announces the latest number of tarrifs, University of Iowa Economics Professor Anne Villamil, shares the reaction out of America.
Plus, US Correspondent Mitch Mccann
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens
on early edition with one roof make your Property search simple,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be well goodbying to you and welcome to a
wet Thursday at New Zealand. This is earlier edition. What's
coming up in the next sixty minutes. Well, we'll finally
know the details of Trump's TARFF programs by nine o'clock
our time. So what is the buzz and what will
happen today? We'll have that story for you in five.
There's a clampdown coming on so called cowboy builders, so
(00:32):
how are we going to do that? We'll talk this
and ten we're going to discuss where the comedians are
the new truth tellers? And the program to improve psychological
care introduced five years ago, and the welfare budget has
come to an end, so how did that perform? And
more importantly, what's coming next? Minister Matt Doocy joins me.
Just before six. We'll have correspondence to right around the
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world and the country at news as it breaks, and
you can have your say by sending me a text
and the text number is ninety two ninety two, and
a small charge applies it's seven after five.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It is Thursday, the third of April, and we are
just alan's away from Donald Trump's Liberation Day in the
United States. He's expected to announce the sweeping number of
tariffs to address what he calls unfair trade. US retailers
and consumers say they're nervous are waiting today's announcements.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Everyone from people who are buying cars are looking to
buy a car already started doing so early because they're
anticipating tariffs on automobiles coming into the United States. We
also know that the US Federal Reserve has already said
that there are some industries, namely lumberd that have preemptively
raised their prices in anticipation for whatever these tariffs will be.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Meanwhile, UK Prime Minister Yas Damus is he rules nothing
out and he is preparing for all eventualities.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We're taking a calm, pragmatic approach and keeping our feet.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
On the ground.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
But it is important that moment like this that we
don't have to knee jerk.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Reactions, that we are actually.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Cool headed about this and that's why we won't rule
anything out.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And in case you forgot about it, there's some conflict
around the world, and we'll go to the Israel Gaza war.
At least nineteen Palestinians, including nine children, were killed in
a strike on a UN clinic sheltering displaced families in
the northern town of Jabalia. The Israeli military seed it
targeted hamas terrorists they reckon they were hiding there. Israel's
defense minister says it's expanding its military offensive and planning
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to seize large areas of the Palestinian territory.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
He's saying that large areas of Gaza will be seized
and added to what Israel calls it security zones, and
warned that this will involve large scale evacuations of the population.
Already we had seen this week. The UN says one
hundred and forty thousand people being told to.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Flee, and finally some said news for top gun fans
to Valkia Batman has died at the age of sixty five.
His daughter Mercedes told US media that Kilma died of
pneumonia in Los Angeles. She said her father had been
diagnosed with throat cancer in twenty fourteen, but later recovered
that the pneumonia got him and Van Kilma played fan
(03:17):
favorite iceman in the original Top Gun and reprise the
role for Top Gun. Maverick.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Yup with this one, Maverick, just to walk in the park.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Kazansky, you guys really are cowboys. What's your problem? Kazanski,
You're everyone's problem.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's because every time you go.
Speaker 9 (03:34):
Up in the air, you're unsafe.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
I don't like you because you're dangerous.
Speaker 10 (03:38):
That's right, nice man, I am dangerous.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You are still dangerous. You could be my wingman anytime.
Val Kilma Magnificent lips ten out to five.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Get ahead of the headlines early edition. Andrew Dickens and
One Room, Make your Property search simple news.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Talk said the Goodbrding. I'm Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge.
Have you ever wondered whether, in fact we're doing it
harder than we need to? I was really surprised yesterday
at the level of reaction to the decision not to
publicly fund the American Cup campaign. Many questioning that why
are we turning down a golden opportunity? Why are we
not taking the chance to stimulate the tourism and hospitality sector.
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I know that Team New Zealand have always been either
overly glorified or overly vilified in this country. The haters
have never understood any public investment in what they call
a niche rich man sporting event, and that is partly true,
and they question whether we would have the sort of
economic benefit Barcelona claims more than two billion heroes. We are,
after all, at the end of the world, unlike Barcelona.
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But others, of course say the GST from the challenges
being based here would pay for the investment in itself,
and then in bound tourism would be the cream on top.
But the reason I'm mentioning yesterday's story is what it
says about our economy and the way we're approaching it
and the way the government is managing it. They have
a very simplistic fiscal policy that I think we all
understand these days. Reduce all the government spending and then
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reduce the debt. What they've started to reduce the spending. However,
the debt keeps ballooning and the ripples of their austerity
are flowing through the entire economy. There have been warnings
a couple of weeks ago that the wholesale cancellation of
government construction contracts has put the whole sector in a
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very fragile situation. It's not good if you're in construction.
The troubles in the health sector in Nelson and Wanaka
highlighted this week, shows what sinking lids cause. And remember
that every public service cut affects three other jobs in
the economy downstream. So you can argue that the government's
position is making the recessionary environment linger longer than it
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needs to. And remember that every job slashed and the
tough times is tax revenue lost, forcing the government to
borrow more. Christopher Luxon is a businessman, and he knows
that investment is still necessary even in tough times, or
else you go backwards, or when the good times return,
you find you well behind the game. Now, seventy five
million dollars, as pointed out by Mike Hosking to me yesterday,
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seventy five million would be two million a month over
the duration of the America's Cup campaign. Can we not
afford that? If New Zealand can't afford that, then what
hope have we going forward? Are we doing it harder
than we need to? Thirteen minutes after five, this week's
must read, as Richard Preble's opinion piece on our proposed
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four year terms. All parties have voted for it so far.
One aspect Richard doesn't like is the opposition having majorities
in select committees, which would turn them into kangaroo courts.
But his main beef is that it won't make governments
any more effective. He quotes Parkinson's law that says work
conforms to deadlines. In other words, governments will do just
as much work in three years as they would in four.
(07:03):
He reckons rather than making governments more effective in implementing
their programs, it will actually slow things down. And it's
easy on first glance to think about the four year
term and think it would make governments more confident in
enacting their beliefs. But then on closer inspection would they
Why would they? As well? Remember politicians are in it
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for the power, but also for the job and the money,
which is why they want longer terms. And then Richard
finished by saying four years is great for a good government,
but terrible if there's a bad one. It was a
great piece. It was enough for me to reassess the
whole idea. You should read it. It's on the Herald
dot co dot NZ, the Andrew Dickens Liberation Day. It's
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got to be the title of a blockbuster movie, hasn't it.
That is Today in America. We're there. Next this is
News Talks.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That Be News and Views You Trust To start your
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Speaker 11 (08:03):
Can you talk?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Sibby Grant has texted me thank you for your text.
Grut ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies and he
doesn't think the cup was ever going to be held
in New Zealand this time because there's more money overseas. Yeah,
that was just an example. My real question is are
we are we putting our head in the sand and
are we avoiding any investment that actually may pay off?
What do you think at ninety two ninety two, it
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is seventeen minutes after five. All eyes on America today,
it's Liberation Day.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I think it's going to be something that's going to
bring a lot of wealth back to our country, tremendous
wealth back to our country.
Speaker 12 (08:36):
Actually, the President has a brilliant team of advisors who
have been studying these issues for decades, and we are
focused on restoring the Golden Age of America.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
All right. President Trump has set to start dishing out
a number of tariffs about nine o'clock our time, to
address what he calls unfair trade with other countries. US
retailers say that nervous the European Union threatens a robust
and calibrated response. So let's go to America. We're going
to the University of Iowa, and there there is an
economics professor by the name of Anne Villamil who joins me. Now,
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good morning to you.
Speaker 10 (09:08):
Anne.
Speaker 11 (09:10):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So what's the vibe like over there?
Speaker 11 (09:16):
I think there is. I think lots of US don't
know what to expect. There's obviously lots of concern about
a trade war, but it's been on and off and
on again. So we're going to see what the announcements
are today. I think there have been reports that they're
still fine tuning.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Is there a realization of makes the American public that
an awful lot of stuff is suddenly going to cost
an awful lot more.
Speaker 11 (09:42):
I think that that is starting to hit, particularly in Iowa.
In Iowa there is it's a very small state, but
it does a lot of agricultural exports and also John
Deere manufacturing exports, and people are I think very because
if you export. You care about other people's markets, So
(10:04):
it's going to be higher prices for us, but also
some tough times for our firms who export prison.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Trump says he's doing this for the American workers. So
what has been the representatives of the American workers reactions
side the unions?
Speaker 11 (10:24):
It is interesting that I think that there's so much
uncertainty that, you know, economists are sort of uniformly concerned
about trade wars because we know how damaging they are,
but I think there is a lot of wait and see.
Right now, there are trade problems, there's no question about that.
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The question is what's the most effective way to resolve
those problems? And so it's it's been surprising and concerning,
particularly in the United States with Canada. Canada is young
ally and neighbor and so there are concerns about things
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like we get eighty percent of our aluminum from Canada,
and to raise those prices. That's an intermediate good that
our firms used to produce, and I think many of
our firms are concerned about that. But there's been so
much back and forth. Yet we're going to do something,
We're going to wait a month, We're going to do
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something else. We're going to wait a month that not
that much has happened yet.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, sures, we're all wanting some Suresey, and we'll find
that out at nine o'clock this morning. Of course, the
rest of the world is still embracing globalism, but America
is now an outlier as it looks inward. Is your
American economy strong enough to stand alone?
Speaker 11 (11:46):
Well, I certainly hope that we will continue being a
part of the trading community. The others' economy has been strong,
it probably could endure a lot of this pain. The
problem is this is just going to be pure pain,
and the President has not yet made a case for
why this is the most effective way to do this.
(12:09):
There are certainly bilateral issues with China. There are certainly
issues about defense sharing with Europe. Those issues are real,
but starting a trade war as a way to solve
them is certainly something that concerns most economists.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And Villamel, who is an economist professor at the University
of Iowa, and I thank you so much for your time.
Takes three Andrew, if we had four year terms, that
would mean labor would still be in power. Who doesn't
bear thinking about salesman. It takes it very good. Ever
being stung by a cowboy builder. Ever had a leaky
building because some guy just didn't know how to do things?
Ever paid a cashi and then had a building full
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down on you? Well, this government wants to get stuck
into the cowboy builders. How I'll tell you more about
that in a moment.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
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property search simple, youth dog zibby.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
All right, We've got a slew of new government changes
which will hold cowboy builders more responsible for poor quality work.
Minister Chris Pink hopes that strengthening the Licensed Building Practices
Registrar will ease concerned about plans so lect builders self certify.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
So.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
John Tucki is professor at the Auckard University of Technology.
He specializes in construction management. He's got up early for
us OLLO.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
John morning.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
This is an international problem that has been discussed for years.
Why hasn't it been sorted out before?
Speaker 13 (13:34):
Because in times when the cost of building goes up,
then it just becomes very convenient to go for a
chief option, and that chief option is usually somebody who's
not going to necessarily do all the detail work that
you need and it looks shoddy accordingly.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Okay, so let's have a look at yesterday's announcement. And
remember we're kind of first in the world and this
sort of thing. Is it a step in the right
direction or is it window dressing?
Speaker 13 (14:00):
No, just step in the right direction. I mean, if
we're going to go down the road.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
Of self certification for building works, which is perfectly reasonable,
it's you know, we we assume a car is built
correctly as a for instance, you know, we don't get
a certification of an individual.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You know, Oh, John, we need to get a builder
in to fix up your phone, and John has fallen off,
so we'll leave this at some point. Of course, you've
probably experienced less than ideal construction work at some point
or another. So if a builder is offering a cashy,
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John reckons that they're already untrustworthy. He warns against the
illusion of a good deal. He knows that things are
getting more expensive right now in New Zealand, so if
it looks too good to be true, it probably isn't true.
It is five twenty five News Talks.
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
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Thank you for your text offering a cashi to fix
John Tuki's phone. Okay, the comedian Jimmy Barr, Jimmy Carr,
excuse me. Jimmy Carr is coming back to New Zealand
for a nationwide tour that culminates at Auchland Spark Arena.
These are big hauls he's playing and he can fill
them because he's that good. The show is called Jimmy
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Carr Laughs funny, and he does. It's so true. That's
what makes that funny, and that is Jimmy's thing. It's
very easy to lump comedians like Jimmy and Ricky Gervas
and America's Bill Maher into a conservative label simply because
much of what they say is politically incorrect. But what
makes them funny is that it's true. They point out
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the hilarity of our tribal positions, both left and right.
So at the moment, I'm reading Bill Maher's book, What
This Comedian Said will Shock You. It's a collection of
his best monologues over a year now. I used to
think he was quite right wing when I watched his show,
but that was because he was merciless against the Biden administration.
Now that Trump is in power, he's equally merciless. And
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I like that. I like that he's telling the truth.
I like his pithy observation that conservatives govern without shame
and liberal shame without governing. That's true in America, that's
true here. Both sides are as bad as each other.
And he says that is why the world is so
full of people who want to break the shit up.
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I like all these comedians because they bring logic to
the fight. They're neither left nor right. They just look
at what it is and laughs at it, unlike politicians
who will bring whatever might score them votes and the
media who will say anything that will get them clicks,
which pay the bills. Andrew Dickens five twenty nine. Michael
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from Kohen Muhrama has sent me a text saying the
government spent millions on inviting investors from around the world
to an economic summit a few weeks ago to encourage investment,
but the government can't come up with two million dollars
a month to invest in an America's Cup defense that
will highlight New Zealand to the world show the world,
our ability to develop high technology bring millions of dollars
into the country. He finishes his text, which is long
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fair to say, by saying show some leadership and invest
in this country. And that's his message to the government.
Right on the way. I've got a whole lot of
really good show business news, particularly if you're like adolescents
and White Lotus and John Wick and before Sex Matt
Doocy the Minister. As we come to the end of
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the welfare budget's psychological campaign. This is news talk you'd
be I'm Andrew Dickens.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I worried about it.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make
your Property Search Simple Youth Talk sid be Men number.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Two of the.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Thursday. That is the disco Diva from Camden, London, UK
do a leaper who last night played the Spark Arena
in Auckland and we'll do it all over again on Friday.
I know that when she comes in tours she does
the cover version of a big hit from the country.
I know when she was in Australia she was doing
a disco version of Highway to Hell. I wouldn't go
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last night. Obviously I wake up early. I could have
gone to the Six Pistols last night as well. So
if you did go, or if you know anyone who
did go, what New Zealand song did do? A leaper do?
You can text me ninety two ninety two Now a
little bit of show business news because it's a Thursday
and why night and it's raining and you want some
fun news. In just three weeks, Ado Lessons has become
Netflix's most popular series of all time. The limited series
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has amassed another thirty point four million views last year,
putting it near ninety seven million since its deboo, and
they believe that numbers got to climb as people hear
about it, discover it, and go to watch it. I
was going to watch episode two last night, but the
family got together and thought about our day and how
tough it'd been, and frankly, we were not in the
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right emotional space for it. Look, it's a good watch,
but it's a very tough watch and you have to
pick your time. Meanwhile, for White Lotus fans, we've found
out now that the final will be ninety minutes long
and directed by Mike White. And finally, if you like
seeing a lot of people being shot. Kianu Reeves will
be back with John Wick. Chapter five has been announced
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that is in development. He will start in it, he
will produce it. Kanu Reeves is getting a bit older,
so how the gun food works for him, I don't know.
Remember John Work Chapter four took an over four hundred
and forty million dollars at the worldwide box office, each
of the first four films accomplishing the rare feet of
out performing its predecessor. So John Wick five has started
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and will come here soon. It is now twenty one
to six and it's time to go right around the
country and welcome into the program from Otago Callum broc
to Halla Callum.
Speaker 14 (20:00):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
What's happening to Dunedin City Council's Chief Executive today?
Speaker 14 (20:05):
This is Sandy Graham. She's set to have her future
decided today. A bit of a controversial figure here in Duneda.
Lately her conduct in the position has been under question.
The council meets today with the agenda including an end
of term review for the Chief Executive, so she could
have her contract extended by up to two years, or
the council may decide to run a recruitment process. Look,
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she's been in the Ros since twenty twenty, but her
tenure has been marred by a few incidents. The odt
here reporting she insulted the mere Jules Radick and other
city councilors, but later apologized are you wet yet?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Here we are.
Speaker 14 (20:41):
We've got occasional rain and more of it this morning,
but should clear this afternoon for us strong nor easterlies
as well for Dunedin the heighth today twenty We've.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Got to crazy. It is Cras Sherwood. Good morning to you.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
A recognition for a well known High Court judge.
Speaker 12 (20:54):
Yes, well, a former judge is Sir Graham Pankhurst as
receiving an honorary Doctor of Law from Canterbury University, almost
sixty years after he originally graduated there. Now many people
might know the name Graham Pancurs from his time presiding
over some of the country's most famous legal trials, some
that I remember well would be pancursed hearing the retrial
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of David Bain in two thousand and nine. He was
also appointed the year after that to head the Royal
Commission into the Pike River Mind disaster.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Now all up.
Speaker 12 (21:24):
Pancurst served as a High Court judge for eighteen years
before he officially retired in twenty fourteen. He is dedicating
this honor to his family.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And how's your weather?
Speaker 12 (21:35):
Rain here as well, but should clear late Tonight's Augustine
northeasteries rising to gale and exposed places this afternoon the
high eighteen and.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Too Wellington would go. Max told good morning to you,
good morning. What is the latest on the couple who
were found dead? And rosneyth Yeah, So we have the
news Monday morning of two people found dad at that home.
Police that they'd gone to the property thanks to worried
relatives who had sounded the alarm there and have been
family members for longer than usual.
Speaker 15 (22:02):
Two people found dead. We went to the scene, spoke
to neighbors, learned that a British couple lived there. A
neighbor seemed to think they were tourists, lived there with
their landlord. Lovely people, they said, dream neighbors. He worked
in science, She had been a teacher and they had
adult teach adult children. Sorry, living in New Zealand. He
apparently had been working here. She moving between here and
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the UK, And we now understand that The case is
a suspected murder suicide. Post mortems were completed yesterday. Police
have said they're not looking for anyone else. Very tragic
circumstances in a beautiful harbourside suburb on the hill.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Okay, how's your weather?
Speaker 15 (22:41):
Overcasts some rain later are high of twenty one.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Neighbor rich Man, who joins me from Auckland.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Good morning, the rain is here.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yes, I know, but the irony is water restrictions are
coming in winter.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Possibly you've got it right, that's correct, d Andrew. So
look the winter water restrictions they're looking more likely for
us here in Auckland. It's the Dame now they're experiencing
their driest March in fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
So the total water.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Supply dam storage it's currently sitting at around fifty nine
percent now, that's down from a historical average of almost
seventy five percent for this time of year. So water key,
head of water that Sharon Danks. She says, Look, the
city is preparing for drought. Mandatory restrictions could be imposed
in June. So obviously the restrictions will depend on the
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rainfall and if people, you know, help by just reducing
that demand.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
George showers.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
How's the weather today?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Scattered rain, that's the good news on this one. You're
quite right, becoming widespread from late afternoon rain rain rain
twenty two the high here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And I thank you Neiva. It is now eighteen minutes
to six text through ninety two to ninety two, Grant says, Andrew,
is your wife's EES scooter part of the police the
ones found by the police. Yeah, I got quite excited
about that story too, And no they are not. But
I'll tell you what. I'll give you an update on
Helen's ES scooter tomorrow because we've had developments with the police,
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the insurance and also with the people who sell East scooters.
I'll tell you that story tomorrow. I asked the question
what to do a leaper sing from a New Zealand
artist last night in her concerts Bark Arena, and I've
been told by a text as she did Royals by Lord,
which is the same song that Bruce Springsteen did when
he last came here. As well, there are more songs
other than Royals by Lord that she could have done.
(24:23):
She could have done Icy Read by spied Ends. That
would have been an interesting mash up but there we go.
She's playing again on Friday. Now on the way, do
you remember the Access and Choice program that was set
up in twenty nineteen. This was part of the well
Being budget and it was about psychological care for mild
to moderate cases. Well, it got some funding. The five
years is up. How did it go and what's happening next?
(24:45):
We'll be talking to Matt Doocy, the Minister for Mental
Health on this before six. But next to America we
go and Elon Musk's time at DOGE might be coming
to an end. Mitch mccanna's next.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
International correspondent, Squidd ends at Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Fourteen to six, Dimandrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge and to
America we go, Mitch we can, Good morning, Good morning,
how are you, Andrew? I'm well.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
Elon Musth's time a Doze could be coming to an end. Yeah,
this is a big story and it's only come out
very recently this morning.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Now.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
Tesla stock has suffered brutal blows already this year. In
the first four months of the year, or first three
months of the year rather, its stock has been down
thirty six percent, right, and this morning, the company announced
that sales or deliveries of its vehicles were down around
thirteen percent in the last quarter as well, so bad
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news for Tesla. It was also down around one and
a half percent this morning. Now there's a new report
that's come out saying that Donald Trump has told some
of his cabinet secretaries and top officials that Elon Musk's
time might be coming to an end at the White
House simply because he's done the job he needs to
do and he needs to go back to his other companies.
The quote that's running on this from Donald Trump is
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that he said there will be a point at which
the secretaries will be able to do this work, and
that Elon Musk has a big company to run.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Now.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
As a result of that story coming out this morning,
Tesla's stock is up nearly five percent. So if there
was ever a question whether Tesla's brutal few months has
been based on him involved with the White House, I
think we have our answer.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yes, indeed, And of course the other side will say
boycott's and vandalism work, but we don't want to hear
that sort of thing. Now, we've been talking about Liberation
Day now for a couple of days and now it's
coming nine o'clock out time, so that's in about three
hours time. We've already talked about this this hour. What's
your take on it?
Speaker 9 (26:36):
Yeah, this is going to be an interesting one, and
I think one of the biggest things we're looking at
is what's going to happen, because there have simply been
no leaks that have really come from the White House
giving a clear indication of what's going to happen here
and which countries are going to be affected. Donald Trump
has given some hint that he might be going easier
than he was first going to. There's a lot of
volatility in the US stock market at the moment. Donald
(26:58):
Trump is someone that watches the markets very closely, and
it's interesting to know this is going to happen at
four o'clock local time here on the East Coast, which
is actually when the markets closed, so that would have
been done on purpose, I can imagine. But really I
think it's interesting to note that we have had no leaks.
It's very unknown what's going to happen at the stage
and who's going to be affected.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Hey, match, I thank you so very very much. And
of course, as soon as it happens, you will hear
about it right here on News talalksz B. It is
twelve minutes to six Drew Dickens. So cast your mind
back to the last government, remember the Access and Choice
program that was set up in twenty nineteen, where the
report has now been released on how it's going. It's
been five years, it's found obviously we've still got stuff
(27:40):
to work on. It was set up back in twenty
nineteen as part of the so called well Being budget.
It was allocated six hundred and sixty four million dollars
for five years and then two hundred and nine million
per anim after that. So the Minister for Mental Health
is now in charge of the whole thing is Matt
Doocy and he joins me. Now good oneing to you
Matt only Andrew, can you qualify the differences between now
(28:01):
and five years ago after the introduction of this program?
Are we better?
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:06):
I think when you look at the data from the
report released today from the Mental Health Commission, we've seen
a significant rollout of the Access and Choice program within
GP practices across the country where there is disappointment has
significantly missed its target. It's only delivered to about two
thirds of the three hundred and twenty five thousand people
(28:27):
that the goal.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Was to serve. I've always been of the view that part.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Of the issue we've seen in mental health is we've
always talked lofty goals, but we've done very poorly an implementation.
And that's why this government was keen to have its
first mental health minister. So we're focused on ensuring that
that service has rolled out properly and according to its target.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well, we'll just look at that. So the goal was
to have psychological health services available to seventy percent of
those enrolled with general practices, so you had sixty eight percent.
So the services are pretty much there into the targets.
But you hope to hit a goal of three hundred
and twenty five thousand people getting the services a year.
You hit two hundred and seven thousand, which is why
you say two thirds. So where's the problem of education
(29:10):
and people are not realizing that the services are there
to be used.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
I think that's partly true, Andrew.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
When you look at the annual Health Survey people reporting
um mental health needs, a third of them are reporting
that they didn't know where to go.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
But I think there's another thing happening here.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
It's a run utilization of the access and Choice workforce.
In opposition, I was supportive of the model, but also
critical it does have an achilles heel where the warm
handover and a GP practice is a good model for
ensuring someone gets that timely support, but it does mean
at times and some practices that workforce is sitting there underutilized.
(29:51):
So look, I'll welcome the report from the Mental Health Commission.
I talked with him when I first came in that
we needed to do the five year review looking for
I think part of the solution is going to be
digitizing the accessant Choice program, shifting online so that'll able
the staff to have high utilization rates and see more people.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And it may have something to do with the fact
that GPS are so wildly overworked.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Well, this is a step service. It's actually funded directly
from the government.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
No, but it goes through the GPS. They then have
to refer they've got a fifteen minute when theow but
there we go, look, hey what not?
Speaker 7 (30:25):
That's not necessarily true, Andrew, and that actually came out
in the report. What they're core calling this variation in
the service and the pathways.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
So people don't.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Actually need to see the GP to be referred to
the service. That is happening in some services, So addressing
the variation, people can be seen straight by the service
without going through the GPS.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And that's good and that's good, and that requires education
and those people who are suffering need to know that
it's there. But of course that's suffering. Hey, so what's next?
You know, the first change of funding the six hundred
and sixty four million dollars fully committed, fully spent. Then
they said there was going to be two hundred and
nine million dollars a year available going forward. Is that
still available?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yes, that funding is still available.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
It's part of the Protected Ring Fence for Mental health
and addiction.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Funding this year will spend two point six billion. So
what I want to see is.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
That program rolled out further. We want to hit its
target of seeing three hundred and twenty five thousand people.
Not only that, one of my first targets I've set
five targets for mental health, first time in New Zealand
would have mental health targets is for people to be
seen within one week of the service.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So I want more people to be seen and seen
quicker Matt, good.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Luck and I thank you so much for your time
today Matt Doucy, who is the Minister for Mental Health.
The report says that the psychological distress in this country
has increased markedly over the past five years, and they
urge that the program needs to be sustained. They want
more enhanced productivity, extended coverage and improved data collection.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Use it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's there to be used and taxpayers invested in it
for you. It is seven to six.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room, Make your Property
search and simple.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You talk zippy by the word from Lee Andrew. Why
did the Malori Party get away with so much and
keep resetting the rules to suit them. I don't believe
any other party would be able to do the same
mate as a stunt, and that's what the Malori Party
seem to like to do. They like to do sunts.
I don't think they have any interesting actually governing and
that is a problem for Labor if they ever want
to make a coalition with them, which I think was
the subject of Mike Hoskis.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Indeed it was and got proven yesterday mentioned them. I
wandered on to a Mariah and said, oh, what do
you mean of these silly little rules with your si?
Imagine if I said that I'm going to sit on
a table exactly, and that woman over there can say
whatever she likes. I mean, because there's silly little rules.
I mean, that's the problem. And it is a problem
for labor, isn't it. I mean, explain that to me,
and the Greens are just as bad. Explain that to me.
(32:53):
How you're going to run the country with that lot?
And that's the that's the major.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
But is this privilege committee or powerful or because he
was technically technically yes, it is, but no, if it
doesn't work, you know, in reality it doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Does work?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Private schools, by the way, we're looking at private schools
on Liberation Day obviously, but private schools this morning they're
closing a number of schools around the country are closing
their roles until twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Wow, they're making you do videos.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Do you want to come to our school, give us
a video, show us your home, family life, tell us
what you're about. That's so it's a your jumper city
and references and exactly. And that's before we'll charge your
twenty five to thirty five thousand dollars a year to
come here. So there's something going on there in terms
of why would you want to do that. In the answers,
you know you're not getting what you want to the
public system obviously, So we'll have a look at that.
And obviously nine o'clock this morning. And what it all means,
(33:41):
by the way, elon the rumor is just moments ago
the stock has lifted.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's lift of five per and he's on his way
out of dosee.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
So he's worked out the prices too high. Yeah, well yes,
and that's before you get to yesterday at Wisconsin. Things
that you lost.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
We can just talked about it. Yes, either all of that,
It's going to be a great show. Always says I'm
Andrew Dickens. Thanks to producer Kenzie's jue Leaper back again
on Friday. I'm back again tomorrow, Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be well goodbying to you and welcome to a
wet Thursday at New Zealand. This is earlier edition. What's
coming up in the next sixty minutes. Well, we'll finally
know the details of Trump's TARFF programs by nine o'clock
our time. So what is the buzz and what will
happen today? We'll have that story for you in five.
There's a clampdown coming on so called cowboy builders, so
(00:32):
how are we going to do that? We'll talk this
and ten we're going to discuss where the comedians are
the new truth tellers? And the program to improve psychological
care introduced five years ago, and the welfare budget has
come to an end, so how did that perform? And
more importantly, what's coming next? Minister Matt Doocy joins me.
Just before six. We'll have correspondence to right around the
(00:55):
world and the country at news as it breaks, and
you can have your say by sending me a text
and the text number is ninety two ninety two, and
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Speaker 1 (01:06):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It is Thursday, the third of April, and we are
just alan's away from Donald Trump's Liberation Day in the
United States. He's expected to announce the sweeping number of
tariffs to address what he calls unfair trade. US retailers
and consumers say they're nervous are waiting today's announcements.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Everyone from people who are buying cars are looking to
buy a car already started doing so early because they're
anticipating tariffs on automobiles coming into the United States. We
also know that the US Federal Reserve has already said
that there are some industries, namely lumberd that have preemptively
raised their prices in anticipation for whatever these tariffs will be.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Meanwhile, UK Prime Minister Yas Damus is he rules nothing
out and he is preparing for all eventualities.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We're taking a calm, pragmatic approach and keeping our feet.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
On the ground.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
But it is important that moment like this that we
don't have to knee jerk.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Reactions, that we are actually.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Cool headed about this and that's why we won't rule
anything out.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And in case you forgot about it, there's some conflict
around the world, and we'll go to the Israel Gaza war.
At least nineteen Palestinians, including nine children, were killed in
a strike on a UN clinic sheltering displaced families in
the northern town of Jabalia. The Israeli military seed it
targeted hamas terrorists they reckon they were hiding there. Israel's
defense minister says it's expanding its military offensive and planning
(02:32):
to seize large areas of the Palestinian territory.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
He's saying that large areas of Gaza will be seized
and added to what Israel calls it security zones, and
warned that this will involve large scale evacuations of the population.
Already we had seen this week. The UN says one
hundred and forty thousand people being told to.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Flee, and finally some said news for top gun fans
to Valkia Batman has died at the age of sixty five.
His daughter Mercedes told US media that Kilma died of
pneumonia in Los Angeles. She said her father had been
diagnosed with throat cancer in twenty fourteen, but later recovered
that the pneumonia got him and Van Kilma played fan
(03:17):
favorite iceman in the original Top Gun and reprise the
role for Top Gun. Maverick.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Yup with this one, Maverick, just to walk in the park.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Kazansky, you guys really are cowboys. What's your problem? Kazanski,
You're everyone's problem.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's because every time you go.
Speaker 9 (03:34):
Up in the air, you're unsafe.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
I don't like you because you're dangerous.
Speaker 10 (03:38):
That's right, nice man, I am dangerous.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You are still dangerous. You could be my wingman anytime.
Val Kilma Magnificent lips ten out to five.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Get ahead of the headlines early edition. Andrew Dickens and
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Speaker 2 (04:05):
Talk said the Goodbrding. I'm Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge.
Have you ever wondered whether, in fact we're doing it
harder than we need to? I was really surprised yesterday
at the level of reaction to the decision not to
publicly fund the American Cup campaign. Many questioning that why
are we turning down a golden opportunity? Why are we
not taking the chance to stimulate the tourism and hospitality sector.
(04:27):
I know that Team New Zealand have always been either
overly glorified or overly vilified in this country. The haters
have never understood any public investment in what they call
a niche rich man sporting event, and that is partly true,
and they question whether we would have the sort of
economic benefit Barcelona claims more than two billion heroes. We are,
after all, at the end of the world, unlike Barcelona.
(04:49):
But others, of course say the GST from the challenges
being based here would pay for the investment in itself,
and then in bound tourism would be the cream on top.
But the reason I'm mentioning yesterday's story is what it
says about our economy and the way we're approaching it
and the way the government is managing it. They have
a very simplistic fiscal policy that I think we all
understand these days. Reduce all the government spending and then
(05:11):
reduce the debt. What they've started to reduce the spending. However,
the debt keeps ballooning and the ripples of their austerity
are flowing through the entire economy. There have been warnings
a couple of weeks ago that the wholesale cancellation of
government construction contracts has put the whole sector in a
(05:32):
very fragile situation. It's not good if you're in construction.
The troubles in the health sector in Nelson and Wanaka
highlighted this week, shows what sinking lids cause. And remember
that every public service cut affects three other jobs in
the economy downstream. So you can argue that the government's
position is making the recessionary environment linger longer than it
(05:55):
needs to. And remember that every job slashed and the
tough times is tax revenue lost, forcing the government to
borrow more. Christopher Luxon is a businessman, and he knows
that investment is still necessary even in tough times, or
else you go backwards, or when the good times return,
you find you well behind the game. Now, seventy five
million dollars, as pointed out by Mike Hosking to me yesterday,
(06:18):
seventy five million would be two million a month over
the duration of the America's Cup campaign. Can we not
afford that? If New Zealand can't afford that, then what
hope have we going forward? Are we doing it harder
than we need to? Thirteen minutes after five, this week's
must read, as Richard Preble's opinion piece on our proposed
(06:39):
four year terms. All parties have voted for it so far.
One aspect Richard doesn't like is the opposition having majorities
in select committees, which would turn them into kangaroo courts.
But his main beef is that it won't make governments
any more effective. He quotes Parkinson's law that says work
conforms to deadlines. In other words, governments will do just
as much work in three years as they would in four.
(07:03):
He reckons rather than making governments more effective in implementing
their programs, it will actually slow things down. And it's
easy on first glance to think about the four year
term and think it would make governments more confident in
enacting their beliefs. But then on closer inspection would they
Why would they? As well? Remember politicians are in it
(07:24):
for the power, but also for the job and the money,
which is why they want longer terms. And then Richard
finished by saying four years is great for a good government,
but terrible if there's a bad one. It was a
great piece. It was enough for me to reassess the
whole idea. You should read it. It's on the Herald
dot co dot NZ, the Andrew Dickens Liberation Day. It's
(07:47):
got to be the title of a blockbuster movie, hasn't it.
That is Today in America. We're there. Next this is
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Speaker 1 (07:54):
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Speaker 11 (08:03):
Can you talk?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Sibby Grant has texted me thank you for your text.
Grut ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies and he
doesn't think the cup was ever going to be held
in New Zealand this time because there's more money overseas. Yeah,
that was just an example. My real question is are
we are we putting our head in the sand and
are we avoiding any investment that actually may pay off?
What do you think at ninety two ninety two, it
(08:25):
is seventeen minutes after five. All eyes on America today,
it's Liberation Day.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I think it's going to be something that's going to
bring a lot of wealth back to our country, tremendous
wealth back to our country.
Speaker 12 (08:36):
Actually, the President has a brilliant team of advisors who
have been studying these issues for decades, and we are
focused on restoring the Golden Age of America.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
All right. President Trump has set to start dishing out
a number of tariffs about nine o'clock our time, to
address what he calls unfair trade with other countries. US
retailers say that nervous the European Union threatens a robust
and calibrated response. So let's go to America. We're going
to the University of Iowa, and there there is an
economics professor by the name of Anne Villamil who joins me. Now,
(09:08):
good morning to you.
Speaker 10 (09:08):
Anne.
Speaker 11 (09:10):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So what's the vibe like over there?
Speaker 11 (09:16):
I think there is. I think lots of US don't
know what to expect. There's obviously lots of concern about
a trade war, but it's been on and off and
on again. So we're going to see what the announcements
are today. I think there have been reports that they're
still fine tuning.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Is there a realization of makes the American public that
an awful lot of stuff is suddenly going to cost
an awful lot more.
Speaker 11 (09:42):
I think that that is starting to hit, particularly in Iowa.
In Iowa there is it's a very small state, but
it does a lot of agricultural exports and also John
Deere manufacturing exports, and people are I think very because
if you export. You care about other people's markets, So
(10:04):
it's going to be higher prices for us, but also
some tough times for our firms who export prison.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Trump says he's doing this for the American workers. So
what has been the representatives of the American workers reactions
side the unions?
Speaker 11 (10:24):
It is interesting that I think that there's so much
uncertainty that, you know, economists are sort of uniformly concerned
about trade wars because we know how damaging they are,
but I think there is a lot of wait and see.
Right now, there are trade problems, there's no question about that.
(10:45):
The question is what's the most effective way to resolve
those problems? And so it's it's been surprising and concerning,
particularly in the United States with Canada. Canada is young
ally and neighbor and so there are concerns about things
(11:06):
like we get eighty percent of our aluminum from Canada,
and to raise those prices. That's an intermediate good that
our firms used to produce, and I think many of
our firms are concerned about that. But there's been so
much back and forth. Yet we're going to do something,
We're going to wait a month, We're going to do
(11:27):
something else. We're going to wait a month that not
that much has happened yet.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, sures, we're all wanting some Suresey, and we'll find
that out at nine o'clock this morning. Of course, the
rest of the world is still embracing globalism, but America
is now an outlier as it looks inward. Is your
American economy strong enough to stand alone?
Speaker 11 (11:46):
Well, I certainly hope that we will continue being a
part of the trading community. The others' economy has been strong,
it probably could endure a lot of this pain. The
problem is this is just going to be pure pain,
and the President has not yet made a case for
why this is the most effective way to do this.
(12:09):
There are certainly bilateral issues with China. There are certainly
issues about defense sharing with Europe. Those issues are real,
but starting a trade war as a way to solve
them is certainly something that concerns most economists.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And Villamel, who is an economist professor at the University
of Iowa, and I thank you so much for your time.
Takes three Andrew, if we had four year terms, that
would mean labor would still be in power. Who doesn't
bear thinking about salesman. It takes it very good. Ever
being stung by a cowboy builder. Ever had a leaky
building because some guy just didn't know how to do things?
Ever paid a cashi and then had a building full
(12:50):
down on you? Well, this government wants to get stuck
into the cowboy builders. How I'll tell you more about
that in a moment.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
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Speaker 2 (13:04):
All right, We've got a slew of new government changes
which will hold cowboy builders more responsible for poor quality work.
Minister Chris Pink hopes that strengthening the Licensed Building Practices
Registrar will ease concerned about plans so lect builders self certify.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
So.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
John Tucki is professor at the Auckard University of Technology.
He specializes in construction management. He's got up early for
us OLLO.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
John morning.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
This is an international problem that has been discussed for years.
Why hasn't it been sorted out before?
Speaker 13 (13:34):
Because in times when the cost of building goes up,
then it just becomes very convenient to go for a
chief option, and that chief option is usually somebody who's
not going to necessarily do all the detail work that
you need and it looks shoddy accordingly.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Okay, so let's have a look at yesterday's announcement. And
remember we're kind of first in the world and this
sort of thing. Is it a step in the right
direction or is it window dressing?
Speaker 13 (14:00):
No, just step in the right direction. I mean, if
we're going to go down the road.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
Of self certification for building works, which is perfectly reasonable,
it's you know, we we assume a car is built
correctly as a for instance, you know, we don't get
a certification of an individual.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You know, Oh, John, we need to get a builder
in to fix up your phone, and John has fallen off,
so we'll leave this at some point. Of course, you've
probably experienced less than ideal construction work at some point
or another. So if a builder is offering a cashy,
(14:36):
John reckons that they're already untrustworthy. He warns against the
illusion of a good deal. He knows that things are
getting more expensive right now in New Zealand, so if
it looks too good to be true, it probably isn't true.
It is five twenty five News Talks.
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Thank you for your text offering a cashi to fix
John Tuki's phone. Okay, the comedian Jimmy Barr, Jimmy Carr,
excuse me. Jimmy Carr is coming back to New Zealand
for a nationwide tour that culminates at Auchland Spark Arena.
These are big hauls he's playing and he can fill
them because he's that good. The show is called Jimmy
(15:22):
Carr Laughs funny, and he does. It's so true. That's
what makes that funny, and that is Jimmy's thing. It's
very easy to lump comedians like Jimmy and Ricky Gervas
and America's Bill Maher into a conservative label simply because
much of what they say is politically incorrect. But what
makes them funny is that it's true. They point out
(15:45):
the hilarity of our tribal positions, both left and right.
So at the moment, I'm reading Bill Maher's book, What
This Comedian Said will Shock You. It's a collection of
his best monologues over a year now. I used to
think he was quite right wing when I watched his show,
but that was because he was merciless against the Biden administration.
Now that Trump is in power, he's equally merciless. And
(16:08):
I like that. I like that he's telling the truth.
I like his pithy observation that conservatives govern without shame
and liberal shame without governing. That's true in America, that's
true here. Both sides are as bad as each other.
And he says that is why the world is so
full of people who want to break the shit up.
(16:28):
I like all these comedians because they bring logic to
the fight. They're neither left nor right. They just look
at what it is and laughs at it, unlike politicians
who will bring whatever might score them votes and the
media who will say anything that will get them clicks,
which pay the bills. Andrew Dickens five twenty nine. Michael
(16:48):
from Kohen Muhrama has sent me a text saying the
government spent millions on inviting investors from around the world
to an economic summit a few weeks ago to encourage investment,
but the government can't come up with two million dollars
a month to invest in an America's Cup defense that
will highlight New Zealand to the world show the world,
our ability to develop high technology bring millions of dollars
into the country. He finishes his text, which is long
(17:11):
fair to say, by saying show some leadership and invest
in this country. And that's his message to the government.
Right on the way. I've got a whole lot of
really good show business news, particularly if you're like adolescents
and White Lotus and John Wick and before Sex Matt
Doocy the Minister. As we come to the end of
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Thursday. That is the disco Diva from Camden, London, UK
do a leaper who last night played the Spark Arena
in Auckland and we'll do it all over again on Friday.
I know that when she comes in tours she does
the cover version of a big hit from the country.
I know when she was in Australia she was doing
a disco version of Highway to Hell. I wouldn't go
(18:24):
last night. Obviously I wake up early. I could have
gone to the Six Pistols last night as well. So
if you did go, or if you know anyone who
did go, what New Zealand song did do? A leaper do?
You can text me ninety two ninety two Now a
little bit of show business news because it's a Thursday
and why night and it's raining and you want some
fun news. In just three weeks, Ado Lessons has become
Netflix's most popular series of all time. The limited series
(18:45):
has amassed another thirty point four million views last year,
putting it near ninety seven million since its deboo, and
they believe that numbers got to climb as people hear
about it, discover it, and go to watch it. I
was going to watch episode two last night, but the
family got together and thought about our day and how
tough it'd been, and frankly, we were not in the
(19:06):
right emotional space for it. Look, it's a good watch,
but it's a very tough watch and you have to
pick your time. Meanwhile, for White Lotus fans, we've found
out now that the final will be ninety minutes long
and directed by Mike White. And finally, if you like
seeing a lot of people being shot. Kianu Reeves will
be back with John Wick. Chapter five has been announced
(19:26):
that is in development. He will start in it, he
will produce it. Kanu Reeves is getting a bit older,
so how the gun food works for him, I don't know.
Remember John Work Chapter four took an over four hundred
and forty million dollars at the worldwide box office, each
of the first four films accomplishing the rare feet of
out performing its predecessor. So John Wick five has started
(19:49):
and will come here soon. It is now twenty one
to six and it's time to go right around the
country and welcome into the program from Otago Callum broc
to Halla Callum.
Speaker 14 (20:00):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
What's happening to Dunedin City Council's Chief Executive today?
Speaker 14 (20:05):
This is Sandy Graham. She's set to have her future
decided today. A bit of a controversial figure here in Duneda.
Lately her conduct in the position has been under question.
The council meets today with the agenda including an end
of term review for the Chief Executive, so she could
have her contract extended by up to two years, or
the council may decide to run a recruitment process. Look,
(20:28):
she's been in the Ros since twenty twenty, but her
tenure has been marred by a few incidents. The odt
here reporting she insulted the mere Jules Radick and other
city councilors, but later apologized are you wet yet?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Here we are.
Speaker 14 (20:41):
We've got occasional rain and more of it this morning,
but should clear this afternoon for us strong nor easterlies
as well for Dunedin the heighth today twenty We've.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Got to crazy. It is Cras Sherwood. Good morning to you.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
A recognition for a well known High Court judge.
Speaker 12 (20:54):
Yes, well, a former judge is Sir Graham Pankhurst as
receiving an honorary Doctor of Law from Canterbury University, almost
sixty years after he originally graduated there. Now many people
might know the name Graham Pancurs from his time presiding
over some of the country's most famous legal trials, some
that I remember well would be pancursed hearing the retrial
(21:16):
of David Bain in two thousand and nine. He was
also appointed the year after that to head the Royal
Commission into the Pike River Mind disaster.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Now all up.
Speaker 12 (21:24):
Pancurst served as a High Court judge for eighteen years
before he officially retired in twenty fourteen. He is dedicating
this honor to his family.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And how's your weather?
Speaker 12 (21:35):
Rain here as well, but should clear late Tonight's Augustine
northeasteries rising to gale and exposed places this afternoon the
high eighteen and.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Too Wellington would go. Max told good morning to you,
good morning. What is the latest on the couple who
were found dead? And rosneyth Yeah, So we have the
news Monday morning of two people found dad at that home.
Police that they'd gone to the property thanks to worried
relatives who had sounded the alarm there and have been
family members for longer than usual.
Speaker 15 (22:02):
Two people found dead. We went to the scene, spoke
to neighbors, learned that a British couple lived there. A
neighbor seemed to think they were tourists, lived there with
their landlord. Lovely people, they said, dream neighbors. He worked
in science, She had been a teacher and they had
adult teach adult children. Sorry, living in New Zealand. He
apparently had been working here. She moving between here and
(22:23):
the UK, And we now understand that The case is
a suspected murder suicide. Post mortems were completed yesterday. Police
have said they're not looking for anyone else. Very tragic
circumstances in a beautiful harbourside suburb on the hill.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Okay, how's your weather?
Speaker 15 (22:41):
Overcasts some rain later are high of twenty one.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Neighbor rich Man, who joins me from Auckland.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Good morning, the rain is here.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yes, I know, but the irony is water restrictions are
coming in winter.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Possibly you've got it right, that's correct, d Andrew. So
look the winter water restrictions they're looking more likely for
us here in Auckland. It's the Dame now they're experiencing
their driest March in fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
So the total water.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Supply dam storage it's currently sitting at around fifty nine
percent now, that's down from a historical average of almost
seventy five percent for this time of year. So water key,
head of water that Sharon Danks. She says, Look, the
city is preparing for drought. Mandatory restrictions could be imposed
in June. So obviously the restrictions will depend on the
(23:26):
rainfall and if people, you know, help by just reducing
that demand.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
George showers.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
How's the weather today?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Scattered rain, that's the good news on this one. You're
quite right, becoming widespread from late afternoon rain rain rain
twenty two the high here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And I thank you Neiva. It is now eighteen minutes
to six text through ninety two to ninety two, Grant says, Andrew,
is your wife's EES scooter part of the police the
ones found by the police. Yeah, I got quite excited
about that story too, And no they are not. But
I'll tell you what. I'll give you an update on
Helen's ES scooter tomorrow because we've had developments with the police,
(24:00):
the insurance and also with the people who sell East scooters.
I'll tell you that story tomorrow. I asked the question
what to do a leaper sing from a New Zealand
artist last night in her concerts Bark Arena, and I've
been told by a text as she did Royals by Lord,
which is the same song that Bruce Springsteen did when
he last came here. As well, there are more songs
other than Royals by Lord that she could have done.
(24:23):
She could have done Icy Read by spied Ends. That
would have been an interesting mash up but there we go.
She's playing again on Friday. Now on the way, do
you remember the Access and Choice program that was set
up in twenty nineteen. This was part of the well
Being budget and it was about psychological care for mild
to moderate cases. Well, it got some funding. The five
years is up. How did it go and what's happening next?
(24:45):
We'll be talking to Matt Doocy, the Minister for Mental
Health on this before six. But next to America we
go and Elon Musk's time at DOGE might be coming
to an end. Mitch mccanna's next.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
International correspondent, Squidd ends at Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Fourteen to six, Dimandrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge and to
America we go, Mitch we can, Good morning, Good morning,
how are you, Andrew? I'm well.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
Elon Musth's time a Doze could be coming to an end. Yeah,
this is a big story and it's only come out
very recently this morning.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Now.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
Tesla stock has suffered brutal blows already this year. In
the first four months of the year, or first three
months of the year rather, its stock has been down
thirty six percent, right, and this morning, the company announced
that sales or deliveries of its vehicles were down around
thirteen percent in the last quarter as well, so bad
(25:39):
news for Tesla. It was also down around one and
a half percent this morning. Now there's a new report
that's come out saying that Donald Trump has told some
of his cabinet secretaries and top officials that Elon Musk's
time might be coming to an end at the White
House simply because he's done the job he needs to
do and he needs to go back to his other companies.
The quote that's running on this from Donald Trump is
(26:01):
that he said there will be a point at which
the secretaries will be able to do this work, and
that Elon Musk has a big company to run.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Now.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
As a result of that story coming out this morning,
Tesla's stock is up nearly five percent. So if there
was ever a question whether Tesla's brutal few months has
been based on him involved with the White House, I
think we have our answer.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yes, indeed, And of course the other side will say
boycott's and vandalism work, but we don't want to hear
that sort of thing. Now, we've been talking about Liberation
Day now for a couple of days and now it's
coming nine o'clock out time, so that's in about three
hours time. We've already talked about this this hour. What's
your take on it?
Speaker 9 (26:36):
Yeah, this is going to be an interesting one, and
I think one of the biggest things we're looking at
is what's going to happen, because there have simply been
no leaks that have really come from the White House
giving a clear indication of what's going to happen here
and which countries are going to be affected. Donald Trump
has given some hint that he might be going easier
than he was first going to. There's a lot of
volatility in the US stock market at the moment. Donald
(26:58):
Trump is someone that watches the markets very closely, and
it's interesting to know this is going to happen at
four o'clock local time here on the East Coast, which
is actually when the markets closed, so that would have
been done on purpose, I can imagine. But really I
think it's interesting to note that we have had no leaks.
It's very unknown what's going to happen at the stage
and who's going to be affected.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Hey, match, I thank you so very very much. And
of course, as soon as it happens, you will hear
about it right here on News talalksz B. It is
twelve minutes to six Drew Dickens. So cast your mind
back to the last government, remember the Access and Choice
program that was set up in twenty nineteen, where the
report has now been released on how it's going. It's
been five years, it's found obviously we've still got stuff
(27:40):
to work on. It was set up back in twenty
nineteen as part of the so called well Being budget.
It was allocated six hundred and sixty four million dollars
for five years and then two hundred and nine million
per anim after that. So the Minister for Mental Health
is now in charge of the whole thing is Matt
Doocy and he joins me. Now good oneing to you
Matt only Andrew, can you qualify the differences between now
(28:01):
and five years ago after the introduction of this program?
Are we better?
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:06):
I think when you look at the data from the
report released today from the Mental Health Commission, we've seen
a significant rollout of the Access and Choice program within
GP practices across the country where there is disappointment has
significantly missed its target. It's only delivered to about two
thirds of the three hundred and twenty five thousand people
(28:27):
that the goal.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Was to serve. I've always been of the view that part.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Of the issue we've seen in mental health is we've
always talked lofty goals, but we've done very poorly an implementation.
And that's why this government was keen to have its
first mental health minister. So we're focused on ensuring that
that service has rolled out properly and according to its target.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well, we'll just look at that. So the goal was
to have psychological health services available to seventy percent of
those enrolled with general practices, so you had sixty eight percent.
So the services are pretty much there into the targets.
But you hope to hit a goal of three hundred
and twenty five thousand people getting the services a year.
You hit two hundred and seven thousand, which is why
you say two thirds. So where's the problem of education
(29:10):
and people are not realizing that the services are there
to be used.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
I think that's partly true, Andrew.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
When you look at the annual Health Survey people reporting
um mental health needs, a third of them are reporting
that they didn't know where to go.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
But I think there's another thing happening here.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
It's a run utilization of the access and Choice workforce.
In opposition, I was supportive of the model, but also
critical it does have an achilles heel where the warm
handover and a GP practice is a good model for
ensuring someone gets that timely support, but it does mean
at times and some practices that workforce is sitting there underutilized.
(29:51):
So look, I'll welcome the report from the Mental Health Commission.
I talked with him when I first came in that
we needed to do the five year review looking for
I think part of the solution is going to be
digitizing the accessant Choice program, shifting online so that'll able
the staff to have high utilization rates and see more people.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And it may have something to do with the fact
that GPS are so wildly overworked.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Well, this is a step service. It's actually funded directly
from the government.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
No, but it goes through the GPS. They then have
to refer they've got a fifteen minute when theow but
there we go, look, hey what not?
Speaker 7 (30:25):
That's not necessarily true, Andrew, and that actually came out
in the report. What they're core calling this variation in
the service and the pathways.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
So people don't.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Actually need to see the GP to be referred to
the service. That is happening in some services, So addressing
the variation, people can be seen straight by the service
without going through the GPS.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And that's good and that's good, and that requires education
and those people who are suffering need to know that
it's there. But of course that's suffering. Hey, so what's next?
You know, the first change of funding the six hundred
and sixty four million dollars fully committed, fully spent. Then
they said there was going to be two hundred and
nine million dollars a year available going forward. Is that
still available?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yes, that funding is still available.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
It's part of the Protected Ring Fence for Mental health
and addiction.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Funding this year will spend two point six billion. So
what I want to see is.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
That program rolled out further. We want to hit its
target of seeing three hundred and twenty five thousand people.
Not only that, one of my first targets I've set
five targets for mental health, first time in New Zealand
would have mental health targets is for people to be
seen within one week of the service.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So I want more people to be seen and seen
quicker Matt, good.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Luck and I thank you so much for your time
today Matt Doucy, who is the Minister for Mental Health.
The report says that the psychological distress in this country
has increased markedly over the past five years, and they
urge that the program needs to be sustained. They want
more enhanced productivity, extended coverage and improved data collection.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Use it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's there to be used and taxpayers invested in it
for you. It is seven to six.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room, Make your Property
search and simple.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You talk zippy by the word from Lee Andrew. Why
did the Malori Party get away with so much and
keep resetting the rules to suit them. I don't believe
any other party would be able to do the same
mate as a stunt, and that's what the Malori Party
seem to like to do. They like to do sunts.
I don't think they have any interesting actually governing and
that is a problem for Labor if they ever want
to make a coalition with them, which I think was
the subject of Mike Hoskis.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Indeed it was and got proven yesterday mentioned them. I
wandered on to a Mariah and said, oh, what do
you mean of these silly little rules with your si?
Imagine if I said that I'm going to sit on
a table exactly, and that woman over there can say
whatever she likes. I mean, because there's silly little rules.
I mean, that's the problem. And it is a problem
for labor, isn't it. I mean, explain that to me,
and the Greens are just as bad. Explain that to me.
(32:53):
How you're going to run the country with that lot?
And that's the that's the major.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
But is this privilege committee or powerful or because he
was technically technically yes, it is, but no, if it
doesn't work, you know, in reality it doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Does work?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Private schools, by the way, we're looking at private schools
on Liberation Day obviously, but private schools this morning they're
closing a number of schools around the country are closing
their roles until twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Wow, they're making you do videos.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Do you want to come to our school, give us
a video, show us your home, family life, tell us
what you're about. That's so it's a your jumper city
and references and exactly. And that's before we'll charge your
twenty five to thirty five thousand dollars a year to
come here. So there's something going on there in terms
of why would you want to do that. In the answers,
you know you're not getting what you want to the
public system obviously, So we'll have a look at that.
And obviously nine o'clock this morning. And what it all means,
(33:41):
by the way, elon the rumor is just moments ago
the stock has lifted.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's lift of five per and he's on his way
out of dosee.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
So he's worked out the prices too high. Yeah, well yes,
and that's before you get to yesterday at Wisconsin. Things
that you lost.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
We can just talked about it. Yes, either all of that,
It's going to be a great show. Always says I'm
Andrew Dickens. Thanks to producer Kenzie's jue Leaper back again
on Friday. I'm back again tomorrow, Have a great day.
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