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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture bands and a player store us Dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It is six after five. Great to have your company
this morning. As we go to air. South Korean troops
are attempting to enter its parliament hall. Have the latest
on that, what exactly it means, how significant that is?
Also this morning, Rob Campbell on Health New Zealand. Why
can't they just sort their budget out? How much do
you need? How much are you going to spend? Some
quite basic questions for him this morning. Also we'll talk
(00:39):
a set of Reese and some great news on the
global dairy trade auction overnight. We'll have more on that shortly.
And if you're in Auckland, does the shakeup talk? Can
transport mean faster speeds and fewer cycle ways? We'll ask
a local board member. The agenda, as I said, very
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busy morning this morning, and we start with South Korea
where it is all kicking off. We con tell you
this morning that they have entered a state of martial law.
South Korea has declared an emergency martial law. This is
the president. He has accused the opposition party in South
Korea of trying to overthrow the government and being undemocratic.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
He told the nation and told members of the National
Assembly in his televised address that the government that he
presides over has been, in his view, paralyzed, with opposition
forces members of the National Assembly trying to impeach him
and trying to impeach several ministers in the government.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
South Korean media are reporting the military has halted parliamentary activity.
Members of the National Assembly have been locked out of
the building, and I can see some live pictures of
this coming in at the moment. It also means there
are restrictions on reporting in South Korea by the media,
so getting information may become a little bit difficult as
we head into the morning. Meanwhile, to the hot mess
(02:06):
in Europe that is France, the government still on the
brink of collapse. There is a vote of no confidence
will be held tomorrow. Comes after the Prime minister pushed
a budget bill through Parliament without a vote, which costs
a lot of angst on both sides of the extremes there.
So the Prime minister being primised to three months expected
to speak publicly on this vote later today, the affairs
(02:28):
the Israel hesbil a ceasefire is only just holding on
by a thread. Lebanon's Health Ministry says ten people died
in an Israeli attack. Israel says it was responding to
a Hesbila mortar attack on a military base. The US
Department of State, who helped negotiate this sixty day six fire,
still has hope that it will hold.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's why we set up this mechanism in the first place,
because we knew that there would be potential violations. Just
as anywhere in the world, when you see a ceasefire implemented,
you see various violations at times. Ultimately, what we don't
want to see is the ceasefire breakdown.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And to the United States the Congress, they're facing a
December twentieth deadline to strike a government funding deal and
avoid a government shutdown, which is you know this happens
every year. Isn't it a temporary resolution? If past is
likely to last until March of next year.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
News and Views You Trust has done your Day's Billy
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
Beds and a playing store.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You talk said bees on Auckland Council. Stephen Joyce wrote
a really interesting article for The Herald a couple of
days ago, which I'll read part of to you in
a second. It basically makes a point that although everyone
hates and particularly mayors like to hate on Auckland Auckland
Transport like to hate on CEOs, they actually do control
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the user just indo adoism, the direction of travel for
these CEOs. So you can't just say, oh, it's their
fault that the cycle waves are here and all that.
He said, there is more to it than that. So
we're going to talk about that in just a few seconds.
But just back to South Korea for a second. I
have it in my hands now, a translation of the
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military decree from the Martial Law Commander. It says, and ironically,
in order to protect liberal democracy from the threat of
overthrowing the regime of the Republic of Korea, all political
activity will cease. This includes the activities of the National Assembly,
the local councils, and political parties, strikes, workstopposites while they
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are all outlawed. Violators of the above proclamation may be arrested, detained,
and searched without a warrant. This is in accordance with
the martial law. However, the opposition party reckons that actually
you cannot arrest a law maker under martial law, which
is exactly what they're saying they would do in that case.
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So we'll keep you updated on what's happening there this morning.
Just gone eleven after five, Ryan Bridge. So this morning
a really interesting article out of out of the UK
about older people who fall in love and don't want
to live together. Apparently you're a lot happier if you
(05:10):
are in a romantic relationship but living separately, which is
not to say get a divorce if you're unhappy, but
if you're finding love. There's a new study out of
the UK. I'll get to that later on as well.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I used to feel.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
The work screen in the song.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Just the News you Need this morning and the in
depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fit City,
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sa'd be.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's gone thirteen after five. Great to have your company
this morning. So this is the second to last global
dairy trade action for the year and it's a doozy.
It's a great number. The farm Gate milk prices. Obviously,
the forecasts have been well, some of them been predicting
heading north of ten dollars a kilogram of milk solids.
So this morning's number overall the trade up one point
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two percent. The number we really care about is whole
milk powder is up four point one percent, which is
a great number. It's an excellent number. In fact, it
has the biggest influence by far on our farm gate prices.
It's half of our auction by volume, and it was
up three point two percent at the last auction. That
was two weeks to go three point two percent. Today
it's up four point one, so they will be happy
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with that, no doubt. Fourteen after five ran Bridge two
changes are coming for Auckland transport. The Council is set
to make so sorry to take back control of policy
and planning, and a new Regional Transport Committee will be
established to work on a thirty year plan for the city.
Orcand Council will also become a road controlling authority and
it will share the decision making with the democratically elected
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local boards. Hopefully, the idea is that we will be
able to have more say over what happens on our roads.
The bill making the changes still needs to go through
Parliament's going to be ages. It'll be like a two
year transition. Damien Light is the HOW local board chair.
He's with me this morning, Damien, good morning, good morning.
Does this mean that we will have fewer cycle ways
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and raised pedestrian crossings and faster speeds and all the
things that the government says that people really want in Auckland.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well, I hope what we'll see is better decisions being
made or more responsive to what locals want. And I
think there's a lot of thing about having got what
pedestrian constants they want. Cycle ways, I think people do
want them, but they want them in the right place.
And I think that's the good thing about better democratic
oversight and more powerful local boards is you're hopefully more
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likely to see pedestrian crossings and cyber ways in the
places where people need them or where they actually want
them to right, Because that's.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
The big thing. I think people think, oh yeay Auckland Transport,
we're blowing it up, and that means that we're going
to suddenly get everything but that way we want. If
you look at How, for example, where you're the chair
the local board you are now going to be devolved
specific transport functions over those things, parking, speed limits, you know,
all those kinds of things. Is it possible that we
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could actually see more of those things because local boards
might be more gung ho than all can transport was?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, I mean the possibility right. But I think the
advantage of democratic oversight is that it gives the public
the ability to express their their happiness or or displeasure,
I guess with those decisions because we have an election
of meats currently every three years and so the public
will have a bit of a more say over the
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people who are making those decisions. And I think that's
been the great value of Aukland Transport.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
And look, it's a been.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
A bit of an experiment in near fourteen years. But
I think what I think most people would accept that
it hasn't really worked way it was intended. You know,
it was meant to be non political. The idea was
leting it off and say, oh, it's a dependent it's
not going to get political, and you know it's well
be able to get off to get things done.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I don't think it has.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And I think by ironically, by trying to remove politicians
from it. It's actually made it more for.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
What happens. Well, I suppose it removed the feeling that
we had control over it despite its saying on a
CEO title, do you have the local boards have the
capacity to actually make decisions about transport projects? Now?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Yeah, well we do a little bit.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
We have a little bit to say over some projects
that happen in the area and actually compared or can transport.
The last couple of years, probably the last twelve months,
they've been working really hard to listen to local boards
better and as you respond to what our desires of
what we said is important, which is great, so that
their organization is capable of doing it, and I think
local boards have shown that they could do it as well.
(09:38):
Hope we need some more advice and support though. So
it's been one of those things, right, It's not it
won't happen over night, but there's a bit of a
bit of a change that's going to need to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, and some are definitely going to be a bit
more on their agenda. I'd say, Damien Light, how local
board share with us? This morning, just gone eighteen minutes
after five news talks, I'd.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Been the first word on the news of the day
earlier Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds
and a playing store.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
News Talk zibby, Good morning, it is twenty after five.
Y're on news Talk zb for just joining us. South
Korea's parliament has now voted because the president there declared
martial law earlier this morning, about three hours ago. Now,
South Korea's parliament has now voted to block the martial
law that's been imposed. That is, despite the fact there
(10:25):
are reportedly troops inside the National Assembly in Seoul. In
South Korea, this is a democratic country and there are
troops inside the parliament. So we'll keep you up today
with what's happening here this morning. Twenty after five. Bridge
All Black and Crusaders player Sevy Reese was named yesterday
as the sports star who admitted to a charge of
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wilful damage driving a car into a garage at a
Cup Day party in christ Church. He was granted a
discharge without conviction. It is the second time he's been
discharged without conviction. The last time was in twenty eighteen,
he admitted to a charge of common assault on his
then partner. Tony Johnson is the rugby commentated with us
this morning, tiny, good morning. Right, do you see a
(11:06):
problem here? He's sorry, he's contrived. He said he's stopped drinking.
He's been to court. That process is over story end.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
No, not really, you know it's up to him now.
As you say, two rumins alcohol related, the first far
more serious. He has expressed contrition and a desire to
stay away from alcohol to sort himself out. And you
have to stay true to that. Now it's already costing
one lucrative job overseas another repeat, and you can't imagine
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it's going to exactly have a positive impact on his
prospects of future employment in the game. I suppose that
the thing is with sports people or anyone in the
in you know, the public eye. You have to be
careful that they don't get tried twice, you know, once
in the courts, once in the court of public opinion.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Do we have too much Do we put too much
emphasis on them being perfect? I mean, they're all flawed
humans like the rest of us, are they not.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Yeah, it's a really good question because often, you know,
people talk about the need to be a good role model.
To me, that's up to the individual. I mean, don't
get me wrong. Being well paid to play sport as
a privilege, and with that privilege comes the responsibility of
projecting yourself and your sport in a positive light or
at least not to bring the sport of disrepute. And
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twice now I guess he's fallen below that line. But
then I suppose you look at it in the broader context.
Our courts are full of young people. A lot of
them are there because the people who should unconditionally be
their role model, their parents have failed them badly. So
why should it really fall on sports people to show
them the way. I don't think that's the case yourself,
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that that should come down to sports field. But in
a way, Sebbe Reese has now put himself in a
position where he has no choice but to become a
positive role model otherwise as a risk of his career
could be finished.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Absolutely absolutely, and he's took a step in the right
direction I think, in doing exactly that. After the discharge
with that conviction at court yesterday, Tony thank you very
much for being on the show. Great to have you
on as always. Tony Johnson Rugby commentated with us just
gone twenty three minutes after five I do think that. Yet,
all black sports stars in general are not perfect people,
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and often we look at them and can think that
they should be. I think they should be good at
their job, which is playing rugby or playing netball or
whatever it is. And can you not look up to
a flawed character? I mean, obviously if so long as
you're not still driving around drunk. You know, if you
have admitted to what you've done, if you are remorseful,
if you're trying to fix the issue, you should be
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given a second chance. And you can still look up
to flawed people, can you not? Nine to nine two
the number to text? Twenty four after five the early.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
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Speaker 3 (13:53):
You're on news Talks THEREB twenty six after five. Here's
a question for you this morning. How much will ever
be enough to spend on health? The answer is there
will never be enough, So you've got to do with
what you've got. At least that is what Health New
Zealand is trying to do at the moment. We spend
thirty billion bucks a year. That's just tax payer money
on health. It is middle of the road for the
(14:14):
OBCD in terms of a percentage of GDP comparisons. Apparently,
according to Health New Zealand, we're ahead of the likes
of the UK, Canada and Sweden, but we're behind France,
Switzerland and Germany. I mean, really, what does all this mean?
Whether that spending is any good or not is another matter.
Ask one hundred people about their experience in the health
system and you'll get a hundred different answers. One answer, though,
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that we should be getting a bit more right, is
exactly how much we're spending or planning to spend on
health because how can you know what you're doing unless
you know what you're spending and on what. Health New
Zealand revised down its deficit for twenty four to twenty
five from one point seven billion to one point one
What does that mean? It means as recently as October
(14:55):
they told us they'd need five hundred million more dollars
to run the health system they did yesterday. That's half
a billion bucks difference in less than two months. Why
they thought they'd have to pay more for redundancy payments
and making up for holiday pay And it seems extraordinary,
doesn't it that you could have such a vast difference
in such a short space of time. How does this
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keep happening? It comes after the target surplus for this
year fifty four million, somehow more often to a deficit
of seven hundred million. Retti and Verel are predictably fighting
over whose fault. This is as you would expect from politicians.
But if we could be a little clearer on the
diagnosis the dollars and the cents being spent, would at
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least be clearer on exactly what it is we're fighting about.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Bray and Bridge.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Twenty seven minutes half to five news talks. They'd be
great news on the global dairy trade auction if you
haven't caught up this morning. I mentioned it earlier, but
just to repeat, their whole milk powders up four point
one percent, which is the biggest influence on our farm
gate milk prices. That was up three point two percent
at the last option, So that is great news this morning.
South Korea's parliament has voted to lift marshal law. If
(16:03):
you're just joining us, the president whose wife apparently was
being investigated for some corruption charges. There's been a fight
going on between the government and the opposition there over
a budget bill that's been going through anyway. The president
declared martial law, and the South Korean Parliament has now
which has a majority opposition, has now voted to lift
(16:24):
the martial law. We're not exactly sure what this means
or where this goes from here, but there are troops
reportedly inside the National Assembly in South Korea right now.
Twenty eight minutes after five on News Talks, hered be
Rob Campbell on the health cuts coming up just before
six this morning. We're also going to talk about the
(16:47):
issue in Otago with the interesting article actual yesterday about
Australia's experience with the bird flu. We'll talk about that too.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
To drive run hot on the driftlands were a thousand mammables.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Take a look at the driver next to me.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
He's just as driving home, driving.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Driven hard.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture bids and applying store Youth Talks. It'd be.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Good morning, he said twenty four a wife from Sex
and New Talks. It'd be great to have your company
this morning. We're going to talk to Rob Campbell about
health New Zealand's financial woes. Just before six this morning.
We're also going to the UK to talk the hot
mess of Europe that is France at the moment, with
its government on the brink of collapse. Also Finland's lost
Internet and why they think Russia's involved in South Korea.
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The parliament has voted to lift the martial law you
would have heard about in the news. Basically, what happens
this morning is the president came out and this is
a president who everyone says is a lame duck. He's
been embroiled in controversy for a while now, his wife
is facing corruption charges, all this kind of stuff's going on.
And then he comes out and says, right, I'm declaring
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martial law in South Korea, and the military moves in
like soldiers move into the parliament to the National Assembly.
Now they still managed to have a vote and the
parliament voted, and interesting that it was members from both
the governing party and from the opposition who voted to
basically block this martial law. This idea of my law
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from the president. So that is where we're at at
the moment. This has all just happened in the last
couple of hours. What happens next from here? Well, it's
anyone's guest.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Really.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Two is the number to text, lots of you coming
in on severy reef. We'll get to some of that
shortly to twenty three away from Sex Ryan Bridge. Come
on practice into need in this one and come good
morning to you. The number of chickens that need to
be culled at that Otago egg farm that's been stung
with bird flu has now doubled.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Morning Ryany of the coling of these birds begins today
now eighty thousand birds. Two mainland poultry barns at Mordarchy
have now tested positive for the disease. It was first
confirmed on Sunday, but just in the one barn. Now
there's the two. We've spoken with nearby neighbors whose family
members work on the farm, and look, they're quite stressed
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about the farm's situation.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
They tell us that.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Stuff were told last week to take time off whilst
the outbreak is dealt with. I. Meanwhile, MPI is confident
that the risks contained to six properties, two of them
belonging to mainland.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
All right, how's denens where they colum.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
I mainly find few late afternoon evening showers are strong
westerly developed later tonight where there's a strong windwatch alert
Tonedan's high twenty five.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
All right, cul and thank you for that. Clears and
christ it's this morning clear. A decision on what to
do with a very contentious intersection is coming today. Thanks right, Ryan.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
Look, there have been eighty three crashes in a decade
at this particular Church corner intersection. It's the junction between Rickerson,
Yuldhurst and Maine South Roads. It does put that in
the top three percent of christ Church's riskiest intersections. City
Council has sought some fresh feedback on three new options
to fix that intersection. There have been just under six
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hundred submissions. The majority preferred option A, which is to
remove a right hand turn from Maine South Road onto
Rickerton and introduced a signalized pedestrian crossing as well for
those who are at the local retirement village and so
on to get across the road.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Now.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Staff have recommended councilors give that the green light at
a meeting today. With some very minor alters.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
All right, how's the weather clear?
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Mainly find a bit of high cloud expected this evening,
light winds with gusty nor westers later on much warmer
though twenty eight Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It is warm, all right, thank you. Clear Mexican going
into mesa food producerly has gone bust.
Speaker 11 (21:16):
Yeaes sad one.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
This.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
This is the popular Alamir Bakery which produces Lebanese food
like peter bread, hummus for laffel. It's gone into liquidation
after more than thirty years in business. It's a family
business started by a family had moved here from the
Middle East. Supplied products to supermarkets across the country. It
had two factories in the capital as well, but it's
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been tough for them post COVID. Costs kept going up
and they have tried to look into exporting to New Caledonia,
for instance, and partner with hallow Fresh for a time
the government school lunches program they got involved with that,
but it just hasn't been enough and Alamir is closing that.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Just said, how's your weather today?
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Mostly cloudy's Sampachi drizzle, strong norwesterlies getting up to twenty
one in the CBD.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
All right, Max, thank you for that. Max Tolin, Wellington
and Nevers and Auckland never good morning, good morning, good
to see you so finally we might get some movement
on our cycle ways and our speed limits and our
speed bumps and stuff like that.
Speaker 12 (22:13):
That's mainly my topic of discussion, hot topic here in Auckland.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Now.
Speaker 12 (22:17):
The mayor says that locals will experience better public transport
under these new reforms. So we know that the government
is taking away Auckland Transports power to make decisions about policy,
planning and strategy, so the key decisions will instead be
made by Auckland Council. Also going to be taking over
the traffic control. Wayne Brown says, look this Auckland Transport,
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it's still going to have responsibility to deliver services, adding hopefully,
well this is it, it's going to improve. So he's
saying Wayne Brown is saying that the existing model's broken
because of the poor design. It isn't fit for purpose.
He's not blaming any one person, but it's just that design,
that poor design something.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because Steven Joyce did a really good column for The
Herald the other day about this and he said he said,
it's a bit of a herrick. This is a bit
of a manufactured crisis that the council does have control
over the direction of Auckland Transport. But the council would
need to actually agree amongst themselves what that direction is. Yes,
because how do you know twenty councilors to decide on anything.
Speaker 12 (23:16):
We've had crisis point now. Really, if they want people
to get out there in Auckland and use a public transfit, yeah,
they've got to do something.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Well, it looks like they are. It might take a while,
a couple of years. How's the weather in the city
sales tim.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Apart from areas of morning cloud twenty three is high
here in Auckland. I heard clear saying.
Speaker 13 (23:32):
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Speaker 1 (24:39):
Do INZ International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace
of Mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
It is parted to six on your Talks. Big Gavin
Gray's a UK europe correspondent. France and Finland the focus
this morning. We'll start in Finland with the Internet outage there, Gavin,
what's going on here?
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:57):
So another undersea cable being in this particular instance, it's
a broken fiber optic cable and two separate cuts to
that cable have caused an outage affecting thousands of households,
The Swedish governments saying it does suspect an act of sabotage.
One of the cuts has now been fixed, but repairs
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continue on the other one. And well, since the war
in Ukraine with Russia, there have been several cases of
suspected infrastructure sabotage in the Baltic Sea region, just really
in the last couple of months, and almost all the
time the finger has been pointed at Russia. Russia denies
any involvement in this, but it just goes to show,
I think, how fragile the communications network can be. Sweden
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has now formally asked trying to cooperate with an investigation.
Is the damage of two cables that were cut in
the Baltic Sea last month. It might have been unintentional,
it might have been a ship dragging its anchor across,
but either way the cables were cut, and in this
instance Sweden believes that, according to a map of the
shipping in area at that time, that a Chinese ship
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might be behind that. So all sorts of theories about
this between pretty confident, it's sabotage.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, okay, as you say theories. At the moment, France's
minority government still on the brink of collectse here. When
are we going to have a vote on this?
Speaker 8 (26:15):
It looks like in roughly twenty four hours time. We
should know. This is all because the Prime Minister, Michelle
Barnier was brought in to try and bring some stability
to the government. They need to cut a lot of spending,
they need to increase taxes and surprise, surprise, Ryan, it's
not popular. Indeed, it's so unpopular now that the left
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wing parties and the far right parties are now holding
this vote of no confidence and are both saying that
they are going to vote against the Prime Minister Michelle
Barnier staying in power, in which case they can't hold
another election until July. It's going to leave the country
in a complete state of limbo, which has not been
seen for decades. It also means that Michelle Barnier might
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the shortest reigning prime minister of the Fifth Republic in France.
He's only really just been appointed by Macron to try
and sort out the finances. And incidentally, if you think
that name is popular or rather well known to you.
Michelle Barneer was involved, of course, representing the EU in
those Brexit trade tools.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, and maybe just lasting three months in the job.
It is twelve minutes away from six very quickly. The
opposition party speaker, apparently this isn't in Korea. South Korean
in parliament voted to lift the martial law that the
president imposed earlier this morning. Apparently the opposition party speaker
had to climb a fence that was one and a
half meters high tool to get into the assembly because
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police had blocked them from getting in. So whoever said
that politics, Ryan, I don't do a bit of manual labor.
So it turns out the Health New Zealand's books aren't
quite as bad as we thought, but the numbers are
still pretty terrible. The projected deficit for the twenty four
to twenty five financial year has reduced from one point
seven billion to one point one billion. In October they
said one point seven. Now they're saying it'll be one
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point one. The agency has extended its cost cutting raging
by another year to twenty twenty seven, when it's expected
to return to surpus. Rob Campbell is the former health
and zent Chaeri is with us this morning.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Good morning, all real a right, good to have you
on the show. Hey, what are you reading into this?
I mean, how can they not get the numbers right?
Two months ago we were told that there would be
they would need five hundred million extra than they are
actually going to need.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yeah, it's pretty glic isn't it. But you've got to
see the history of this. I'm afraid to be a
bit boring this. It's not an issue that was created
by tapatu Wara. It's an issue that drags over from
the previous arrangements between the district health boards and the
Ministry of Health, and in some ways it's part of
putting it right.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
How much more do we need to spend to get
it right? I mean, how much is going to be
enough in health when we're spending thirty billion a year.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Well, the truth is, no one knows the answer to
that question. But what we do know is a number
of things. First, there are some things, like the big
one is the holiday pay issue, which has to be
done because it's a legal requirement. No One quite new
and probably still doesn't know exactly what the cost impact
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of that is. But when it is finally ascertained, it's
a number that has to be found. Secondly, there are
some increases which derive from basic requirements again legal ones
such as pay equity and other pay type requirements, which
again have to be met and can be projected, but
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we're badly projected in the previous estimates that were made.
Then we come into the area of much bigger on owns,
and these are particularly We know there is something like
fourteen billion dollars worth of undone deferred maintenance within the
system because of the way it was run before. This
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is a terrible load on the system. It can't all
be dealt with in one hit, and maybe some of
it will never be dealt with, But that is an
issue which cutting staff and making the other cuts that
are being made simply can't do anything about. And then
finally there is the new capital requirements outstanding in the
new hospital and the need and in other places again
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where need has been demonstrated but the system has not
been estimating or controlling its costs very well. This is
all an outcome of what we needed to change.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, but those estimates that you're talking about very quickly,
who's making these estimates. How are they getting them so wrong.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Or old to fartow work. It's caught middle of this
TAFAO work is trying to pull together figures from the
plenty eye previous district goss boards. That's one part of it, right,
But the main people who have always been in control
of this have been the Ministry of Health and Treasury.
They're the people who have had no changes significantly made
to them in this respect. Ministry lost some stuff to
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PA to Ora, but it's basically the historical people who
have got the main responsibility to this and the key
thing is to fight to or the Commissioner or however
it is organized. Can't staff cut and staff restrict cost
to make this better?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, thank you very much for being with me this morning.
Appreciate it. Rob Campbell, former Health New Zealand Chair on
the deficit reduction deficit good, but deficit big still bad.
It is eight away from Sex News Talk SEB on.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
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Speaker 3 (31:43):
News Talk ZB six to six on News Talk CB
and South Korea. People are gathering outside the National Assembly,
why the president called the state of martial law the
parliament has in South Korean parliament has now voted to
lift that martial law. It's a little bit uncare of
this point exactly what is going on, but Micha will
be covering that on his show. He's with us this morning.
Good morning. I'm trying to work.
Speaker 14 (32:04):
Out that he was claiming the president, he was claiming
that it had something to do with North Korea, and
he was second sec of the way things were going.
And I assume he knew that in doing what he did,
that they could unvote.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, what he did. And there's some he says, some
insidious people inside the parliament.
Speaker 14 (32:20):
Well, that's true in all parliaments, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
But we don't. We don't declar marshal law. Well do we?
Speaker 14 (32:25):
I mean I could declare martial law this morning.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Some so I do.
Speaker 14 (32:27):
I can name you half a dozen in citious people. Immediately,
I was watching Old I was watching that press conference
yesterday with Auckland Transport.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Oh the Browns. Yeah, here's my problem with the code Brown.
So you hate.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
Auckland Transport, right, everyone everyone hates Auckland Transport. But what
you've done is you go, we hate you, so we're
taking some power away from you, and everyone goes, oh cool,
who are you giving it to? You're going to give
it to the council.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I mean how local boards? Yeah, how good are they?
But also, but you're creating a new entity that will
share the power with local boards. I mean that's one
hundred different.
Speaker 14 (32:58):
People hundred so one hundred different ideas. Everyone's got an agenda.
So part of the idea makes sense, and in theory
it makes sense because you know what his argument is
that you know, in democracy you can participate, you can
feel like you know, but no one turns up to
vote for a start.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
No, and no, who do you know who your local
board members are?
Speaker 14 (33:16):
No one cares.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And Stephen Joyce, did you see that piece from him
a couple of days ago where he said, actually that
the council does have control over Auckland transfer ort, it
just can't make up its mind about what it wants
to do exactly.
Speaker 14 (33:28):
I mean, the reason Auckland is the way Auckland is
is because of the council, isn't it think about it?
I mean, Auckland's not one to be great cities in
New Zealand and it's at least partially the responsibility of
the council.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So suddenly they've.
Speaker 14 (33:40):
Got more power to do what they've been doing. So
does that fill you with confidence?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I also Auckland is too, doesn't it? They're not great
people to be around.
Speaker 14 (33:50):
Good on you, right, how do your ratings?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Have a great day everyone.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It is six after five. Great to have your company
this morning. As we go to air. South Korean troops
are attempting to enter its parliament hall. Have the latest
on that, what exactly it means, how significant that is?
Also this morning, Rob Campbell on Health New Zealand. Why
can't they just sort their budget out? How much do
you need? How much are you going to spend? Some
quite basic questions for him this morning. Also we'll talk
(00:39):
a set of Reese and some great news on the
global dairy trade auction overnight. We'll have more on that shortly.
And if you're in Auckland, does the shakeup talk? Can
transport mean faster speeds and fewer cycle ways? We'll ask
a local board member. The agenda, as I said, very
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busy morning this morning, and we start with South Korea
where it is all kicking off. We con tell you
this morning that they have entered a state of martial law.
South Korea has declared an emergency martial law. This is
the president. He has accused the opposition party in South
Korea of trying to overthrow the government and being undemocratic.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
He told the nation and told members of the National
Assembly in his televised address that the government that he
presides over has been, in his view, paralyzed, with opposition
forces members of the National Assembly trying to impeach him
and trying to impeach several ministers in the government.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
South Korean media are reporting the military has halted parliamentary activity.
Members of the National Assembly have been locked out of
the building, and I can see some live pictures of
this coming in at the moment. It also means there
are restrictions on reporting in South Korea by the media,
so getting information may become a little bit difficult as
we head into the morning. Meanwhile, to the hot mess
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in Europe that is France, the government still on the
brink of collapse. There is a vote of no confidence
will be held tomorrow. Comes after the Prime minister pushed
a budget bill through Parliament without a vote, which costs
a lot of angst on both sides of the extremes there.
So the Prime minister being primised to three months expected
to speak publicly on this vote later today, the affairs
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the Israel hesbil a ceasefire is only just holding on
by a thread. Lebanon's Health Ministry says ten people died
in an Israeli attack. Israel says it was responding to
a Hesbila mortar attack on a military base. The US
Department of State, who helped negotiate this sixty day six fire,
still has hope that it will hold.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's why we set up this mechanism in the first place,
because we knew that there would be potential violations. Just
as anywhere in the world, when you see a ceasefire implemented,
you see various violations at times. Ultimately, what we don't
want to see is the ceasefire breakdown.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And to the United States the Congress, they're facing a
December twentieth deadline to strike a government funding deal and
avoid a government shutdown, which is you know this happens
every year. Isn't it a temporary resolution? If past is
likely to last until March of next year.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
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edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
Beds and a playing store.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You talk said bees on Auckland Council. Stephen Joyce wrote
a really interesting article for The Herald a couple of
days ago, which I'll read part of to you in
a second. It basically makes a point that although everyone
hates and particularly mayors like to hate on Auckland Auckland
Transport like to hate on CEOs, they actually do control
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the user just indo adoism, the direction of travel for
these CEOs. So you can't just say, oh, it's their
fault that the cycle waves are here and all that.
He said, there is more to it than that. So
we're going to talk about that in just a few seconds.
But just back to South Korea for a second. I
have it in my hands now, a translation of the
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military decree from the Martial Law Commander. It says, and ironically,
in order to protect liberal democracy from the threat of
overthrowing the regime of the Republic of Korea, all political
activity will cease. This includes the activities of the National Assembly,
the local councils, and political parties, strikes, workstopposites while they
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are all outlawed. Violators of the above proclamation may be arrested, detained,
and searched without a warrant. This is in accordance with
the martial law. However, the opposition party reckons that actually
you cannot arrest a law maker under martial law, which
is exactly what they're saying they would do in that case.
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So we'll keep you updated on what's happening there this morning.
Just gone eleven after five, Ryan Bridge. So this morning
a really interesting article out of out of the UK
about older people who fall in love and don't want
to live together. Apparently you're a lot happier if you
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are in a romantic relationship but living separately, which is
not to say get a divorce if you're unhappy, but
if you're finding love. There's a new study out of
the UK. I'll get to that later on as well.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I used to feel.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
The work screen in the song.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
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sa'd be.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's gone thirteen after five. Great to have your company
this morning. So this is the second to last global
dairy trade action for the year and it's a doozy.
It's a great number. The farm Gate milk prices. Obviously,
the forecasts have been well, some of them been predicting
heading north of ten dollars a kilogram of milk solids.
So this morning's number overall the trade up one point
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two percent. The number we really care about is whole
milk powder is up four point one percent, which is
a great number. It's an excellent number. In fact, it
has the biggest influence by far on our farm gate prices.
It's half of our auction by volume, and it was
up three point two percent at the last auction. That
was two weeks to go three point two percent. Today
it's up four point one, so they will be happy
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with that, no doubt. Fourteen after five ran Bridge two
changes are coming for Auckland transport. The Council is set
to make so sorry to take back control of policy
and planning, and a new Regional Transport Committee will be
established to work on a thirty year plan for the city.
Orcand Council will also become a road controlling authority and
it will share the decision making with the democratically elected
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local boards. Hopefully, the idea is that we will be
able to have more say over what happens on our roads.
The bill making the changes still needs to go through
Parliament's going to be ages. It'll be like a two
year transition. Damien Light is the HOW local board chair.
He's with me this morning, Damien, good morning, good morning.
Does this mean that we will have fewer cycle ways
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and raised pedestrian crossings and faster speeds and all the
things that the government says that people really want in Auckland.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well, I hope what we'll see is better decisions being
made or more responsive to what locals want. And I
think there's a lot of thing about having got what
pedestrian constants they want. Cycle ways, I think people do
want them, but they want them in the right place.
And I think that's the good thing about better democratic
oversight and more powerful local boards is you're hopefully more
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likely to see pedestrian crossings and cyber ways in the
places where people need them or where they actually want
them to right, Because that's.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
The big thing. I think people think, oh yeay Auckland Transport,
we're blowing it up, and that means that we're going
to suddenly get everything but that way we want. If
you look at How, for example, where you're the chair
the local board you are now going to be devolved
specific transport functions over those things, parking, speed limits, you know,
all those kinds of things. Is it possible that we
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could actually see more of those things because local boards
might be more gung ho than all can transport was?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, I mean the possibility right. But I think the
advantage of democratic oversight is that it gives the public
the ability to express their their happiness or or displeasure,
I guess with those decisions because we have an election
of meats currently every three years and so the public
will have a bit of a more say over the
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people who are making those decisions. And I think that's
been the great value of Aukland Transport.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
And look, it's a been.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
A bit of an experiment in near fourteen years. But
I think what I think most people would accept that
it hasn't really worked way it was intended. You know,
it was meant to be non political. The idea was
leting it off and say, oh, it's a dependent it's
not going to get political, and you know it's well
be able to get off to get things done.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I don't think it has.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And I think by ironically, by trying to remove politicians
from it. It's actually made it more for.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
What happens. Well, I suppose it removed the feeling that
we had control over it despite its saying on a
CEO title, do you have the local boards have the
capacity to actually make decisions about transport projects? Now?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Yeah, well we do a little bit.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
We have a little bit to say over some projects
that happen in the area and actually compared or can transport.
The last couple of years, probably the last twelve months,
they've been working really hard to listen to local boards
better and as you respond to what our desires of
what we said is important, which is great, so that
their organization is capable of doing it, and I think
local boards have shown that they could do it as well.
(09:38):
Hope we need some more advice and support though. So
it's been one of those things, right, It's not it
won't happen over night, but there's a bit of a
bit of a change that's going to need to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, and some are definitely going to be a bit
more on their agenda. I'd say, Damien Light, how local
board share with us? This morning, just gone eighteen minutes
after five news talks, I'd.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Been the first word on the news of the day
earlier Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds
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Speaker 3 (10:04):
News Talk zibby, Good morning, it is twenty after five.
Y're on news Talk zb for just joining us. South
Korea's parliament has now voted because the president there declared
martial law earlier this morning, about three hours ago. Now,
South Korea's parliament has now voted to block the martial
law that's been imposed. That is, despite the fact there
(10:25):
are reportedly troops inside the National Assembly in Seoul. In
South Korea, this is a democratic country and there are
troops inside the parliament. So we'll keep you up today
with what's happening here this morning. Twenty after five. Bridge
All Black and Crusaders player Sevy Reese was named yesterday
as the sports star who admitted to a charge of
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wilful damage driving a car into a garage at a
Cup Day party in christ Church. He was granted a
discharge without conviction. It is the second time he's been
discharged without conviction. The last time was in twenty eighteen,
he admitted to a charge of common assault on his
then partner. Tony Johnson is the rugby commentated with us
this morning, tiny, good morning. Right, do you see a
(11:06):
problem here? He's sorry, he's contrived. He said he's stopped drinking.
He's been to court. That process is over story end.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
No, not really, you know it's up to him now.
As you say, two rumins alcohol related, the first far
more serious. He has expressed contrition and a desire to
stay away from alcohol to sort himself out. And you
have to stay true to that. Now it's already costing
one lucrative job overseas another repeat, and you can't imagine
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it's going to exactly have a positive impact on his
prospects of future employment in the game. I suppose that
the thing is with sports people or anyone in the
in you know, the public eye. You have to be
careful that they don't get tried twice, you know, once
in the courts, once in the court of public opinion.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Do we have too much Do we put too much
emphasis on them being perfect? I mean, they're all flawed
humans like the rest of us, are they not.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Yeah, it's a really good question because often, you know,
people talk about the need to be a good role model.
To me, that's up to the individual. I mean, don't
get me wrong. Being well paid to play sport as
a privilege, and with that privilege comes the responsibility of
projecting yourself and your sport in a positive light or
at least not to bring the sport of disrepute. And
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twice now I guess he's fallen below that line. But
then I suppose you look at it in the broader context.
Our courts are full of young people. A lot of
them are there because the people who should unconditionally be
their role model, their parents have failed them badly. So
why should it really fall on sports people to show
them the way. I don't think that's the case yourself,
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that that should come down to sports field. But in
a way, Sebbe Reese has now put himself in a
position where he has no choice but to become a
positive role model otherwise as a risk of his career
could be finished.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Absolutely absolutely, and he's took a step in the right
direction I think, in doing exactly that. After the discharge
with that conviction at court yesterday, Tony thank you very
much for being on the show. Great to have you
on as always. Tony Johnson Rugby commentated with us just
gone twenty three minutes after five I do think that. Yet,
all black sports stars in general are not perfect people,
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and often we look at them and can think that
they should be. I think they should be good at
their job, which is playing rugby or playing netball or
whatever it is. And can you not look up to
a flawed character? I mean, obviously if so long as
you're not still driving around drunk. You know, if you
have admitted to what you've done, if you are remorseful,
if you're trying to fix the issue, you should be
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given a second chance. And you can still look up
to flawed people, can you not? Nine to nine two
the number to text? Twenty four after five the early.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
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You're on news Talks THEREB twenty six after five. Here's
a question for you this morning. How much will ever
be enough to spend on health? The answer is there
will never be enough, So you've got to do with
what you've got. At least that is what Health New
Zealand is trying to do at the moment. We spend
thirty billion bucks a year. That's just tax payer money
on health. It is middle of the road for the
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OBCD in terms of a percentage of GDP comparisons. Apparently,
according to Health New Zealand, we're ahead of the likes
of the UK, Canada and Sweden, but we're behind France,
Switzerland and Germany. I mean, really, what does all this mean?
Whether that spending is any good or not is another matter.
Ask one hundred people about their experience in the health
system and you'll get a hundred different answers. One answer, though,
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that we should be getting a bit more right, is
exactly how much we're spending or planning to spend on
health because how can you know what you're doing unless
you know what you're spending and on what. Health New
Zealand revised down its deficit for twenty four to twenty
five from one point seven billion to one point one
What does that mean? It means as recently as October
(14:55):
they told us they'd need five hundred million more dollars
to run the health system they did yesterday. That's half
a billion bucks difference in less than two months. Why
they thought they'd have to pay more for redundancy payments
and making up for holiday pay And it seems extraordinary,
doesn't it that you could have such a vast difference
in such a short space of time. How does this
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keep happening? It comes after the target surplus for this
year fifty four million, somehow more often to a deficit
of seven hundred million. Retti and Verel are predictably fighting
over whose fault. This is as you would expect from politicians.
But if we could be a little clearer on the
diagnosis the dollars and the cents being spent, would at
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least be clearer on exactly what it is we're fighting about.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Bray and Bridge.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Twenty seven minutes half to five news talks. They'd be
great news on the global dairy trade auction if you
haven't caught up this morning. I mentioned it earlier, but
just to repeat, their whole milk powders up four point
one percent, which is the biggest influence on our farm
gate milk prices. That was up three point two percent
at the last option, So that is great news this morning.
South Korea's parliament has voted to lift marshal law. If
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you're just joining us, the president whose wife apparently was
being investigated for some corruption charges. There's been a fight
going on between the government and the opposition there over
a budget bill that's been going through anyway. The president
declared martial law, and the South Korean Parliament has now
which has a majority opposition, has now voted to lift
(16:24):
the martial law. We're not exactly sure what this means
or where this goes from here, but there are troops
reportedly inside the National Assembly in South Korea right now.
Twenty eight minutes after five on News Talks, hered be
Rob Campbell on the health cuts coming up just before
six this morning. We're also going to talk about the
(16:47):
issue in Otago with the interesting article actual yesterday about
Australia's experience with the bird flu. We'll talk about that too.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
To drive run hot on the driftlands were a thousand mammables.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Take a look at the driver next to me.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
He's just as driving home, driving.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Driven hard.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture bids and applying store Youth Talks. It'd be.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Good morning, he said twenty four a wife from Sex
and New Talks. It'd be great to have your company
this morning. We're going to talk to Rob Campbell about
health New Zealand's financial woes. Just before six this morning.
We're also going to the UK to talk the hot
mess of Europe that is France at the moment, with
its government on the brink of collapse. Also Finland's lost
Internet and why they think Russia's involved in South Korea.
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The parliament has voted to lift the martial law you
would have heard about in the news. Basically, what happens
this morning is the president came out and this is
a president who everyone says is a lame duck. He's
been embroiled in controversy for a while now, his wife
is facing corruption charges, all this kind of stuff's going on.
And then he comes out and says, right, I'm declaring
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martial law in South Korea, and the military moves in
like soldiers move into the parliament to the National Assembly.
Now they still managed to have a vote and the
parliament voted, and interesting that it was members from both
the governing party and from the opposition who voted to
basically block this martial law. This idea of my law
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from the president. So that is where we're at at
the moment. This has all just happened in the last
couple of hours. What happens next from here? Well, it's
anyone's guest.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Really.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Two is the number to text, lots of you coming
in on severy reef. We'll get to some of that
shortly to twenty three away from Sex Ryan Bridge. Come
on practice into need in this one and come good
morning to you. The number of chickens that need to
be culled at that Otago egg farm that's been stung
with bird flu has now doubled.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Morning Ryany of the coling of these birds begins today
now eighty thousand birds. Two mainland poultry barns at Mordarchy
have now tested positive for the disease. It was first
confirmed on Sunday, but just in the one barn. Now
there's the two. We've spoken with nearby neighbors whose family
members work on the farm, and look, they're quite stressed
(19:47):
about the farm's situation.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
They tell us that.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Stuff were told last week to take time off whilst
the outbreak is dealt with. I. Meanwhile, MPI is confident
that the risks contained to six properties, two of them
belonging to mainland.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
All right, how's denens where they colum.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
I mainly find few late afternoon evening showers are strong
westerly developed later tonight where there's a strong windwatch alert
Tonedan's high twenty five.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
All right, cul and thank you for that. Clears and
christ it's this morning clear. A decision on what to
do with a very contentious intersection is coming today. Thanks right, Ryan.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
Look, there have been eighty three crashes in a decade
at this particular Church corner intersection. It's the junction between Rickerson,
Yuldhurst and Maine South Roads. It does put that in
the top three percent of christ Church's riskiest intersections. City
Council has sought some fresh feedback on three new options
to fix that intersection. There have been just under six
(20:40):
hundred submissions. The majority preferred option A, which is to
remove a right hand turn from Maine South Road onto
Rickerton and introduced a signalized pedestrian crossing as well for
those who are at the local retirement village and so
on to get across the road.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Now.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Staff have recommended councilors give that the green light at
a meeting today. With some very minor alters.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
All right, how's the weather clear?
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Mainly find a bit of high cloud expected this evening,
light winds with gusty nor westers later on much warmer
though twenty eight Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It is warm, all right, thank you. Clear Mexican going
into mesa food producerly has gone bust.
Speaker 11 (21:16):
Yeaes sad one.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
This.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
This is the popular Alamir Bakery which produces Lebanese food
like peter bread, hummus for laffel. It's gone into liquidation
after more than thirty years in business. It's a family
business started by a family had moved here from the
Middle East. Supplied products to supermarkets across the country. It
had two factories in the capital as well, but it's
(21:39):
been tough for them post COVID. Costs kept going up
and they have tried to look into exporting to New Caledonia,
for instance, and partner with hallow Fresh for a time
the government school lunches program they got involved with that,
but it just hasn't been enough and Alamir is closing that.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Just said, how's your weather today?
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Mostly cloudy's Sampachi drizzle, strong norwesterlies getting up to twenty
one in the CBD.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
All right, Max, thank you for that. Max Tolin, Wellington
and Nevers and Auckland never good morning, good morning, good
to see you so finally we might get some movement
on our cycle ways and our speed limits and our
speed bumps and stuff like that.
Speaker 12 (22:13):
That's mainly my topic of discussion, hot topic here in Auckland.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Now.
Speaker 12 (22:17):
The mayor says that locals will experience better public transport
under these new reforms. So we know that the government
is taking away Auckland Transports power to make decisions about policy,
planning and strategy, so the key decisions will instead be
made by Auckland Council. Also going to be taking over
the traffic control. Wayne Brown says, look this Auckland Transport,
(22:37):
it's still going to have responsibility to deliver services, adding hopefully,
well this is it, it's going to improve. So he's
saying Wayne Brown is saying that the existing model's broken
because of the poor design. It isn't fit for purpose.
He's not blaming any one person, but it's just that design,
that poor design something.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because Steven Joyce did a really good column for The
Herald the other day about this and he said he said,
it's a bit of a herrick. This is a bit
of a manufactured crisis that the council does have control
over the direction of Auckland Transport. But the council would
need to actually agree amongst themselves what that direction is. Yes,
because how do you know twenty councilors to decide on anything.
Speaker 12 (23:16):
We've had crisis point now. Really, if they want people
to get out there in Auckland and use a public transfit, yeah,
they've got to do something.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Well, it looks like they are. It might take a while,
a couple of years. How's the weather in the city
sales tim.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Apart from areas of morning cloud twenty three is high
here in Auckland. I heard clear saying.
Speaker 13 (23:32):
Twenty eight in christ weltering, flip in head, neither, thank you,
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Speaker 3 (24:46):
It is parted to six on your Talks. Big Gavin
Gray's a UK europe correspondent. France and Finland the focus
this morning. We'll start in Finland with the Internet outage there, Gavin,
what's going on here?
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:57):
So another undersea cable being in this particular instance, it's
a broken fiber optic cable and two separate cuts to
that cable have caused an outage affecting thousands of households,
The Swedish governments saying it does suspect an act of sabotage.
One of the cuts has now been fixed, but repairs
(25:17):
continue on the other one. And well, since the war
in Ukraine with Russia, there have been several cases of
suspected infrastructure sabotage in the Baltic Sea region, just really
in the last couple of months, and almost all the
time the finger has been pointed at Russia. Russia denies
any involvement in this, but it just goes to show,
I think, how fragile the communications network can be. Sweden
(25:41):
has now formally asked trying to cooperate with an investigation.
Is the damage of two cables that were cut in
the Baltic Sea last month. It might have been unintentional,
it might have been a ship dragging its anchor across,
but either way the cables were cut, and in this
instance Sweden believes that, according to a map of the
shipping in area at that time, that a Chinese ship
(26:03):
might be behind that. So all sorts of theories about
this between pretty confident, it's sabotage.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, okay, as you say theories. At the moment, France's
minority government still on the brink of collectse here. When
are we going to have a vote on this?
Speaker 8 (26:15):
It looks like in roughly twenty four hours time. We
should know. This is all because the Prime Minister, Michelle
Barnier was brought in to try and bring some stability
to the government. They need to cut a lot of spending,
they need to increase taxes and surprise, surprise, Ryan, it's
not popular. Indeed, it's so unpopular now that the left
(26:37):
wing parties and the far right parties are now holding
this vote of no confidence and are both saying that
they are going to vote against the Prime Minister Michelle
Barnier staying in power, in which case they can't hold
another election until July. It's going to leave the country
in a complete state of limbo, which has not been
seen for decades. It also means that Michelle Barnier might
(27:00):
the shortest reigning prime minister of the Fifth Republic in France.
He's only really just been appointed by Macron to try
and sort out the finances. And incidentally, if you think
that name is popular or rather well known to you.
Michelle Barneer was involved, of course, representing the EU in
those Brexit trade tools.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, and maybe just lasting three months in the job.
It is twelve minutes away from six very quickly. The
opposition party speaker, apparently this isn't in Korea. South Korean
in parliament voted to lift the martial law that the
president imposed earlier this morning. Apparently the opposition party speaker
had to climb a fence that was one and a
half meters high tool to get into the assembly because
(27:40):
police had blocked them from getting in. So whoever said
that politics, Ryan, I don't do a bit of manual labor.
So it turns out the Health New Zealand's books aren't
quite as bad as we thought, but the numbers are
still pretty terrible. The projected deficit for the twenty four
to twenty five financial year has reduced from one point
seven billion to one point one billion. In October they
said one point seven. Now they're saying it'll be one
(28:01):
point one. The agency has extended its cost cutting raging
by another year to twenty twenty seven, when it's expected
to return to surpus. Rob Campbell is the former health
and zent Chaeri is with us this morning.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Good morning, all real a right, good to have you
on the show. Hey, what are you reading into this?
I mean, how can they not get the numbers right?
Two months ago we were told that there would be
they would need five hundred million extra than they are
actually going to need.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yeah, it's pretty glic isn't it. But you've got to
see the history of this. I'm afraid to be a
bit boring this. It's not an issue that was created
by tapatu Wara. It's an issue that drags over from
the previous arrangements between the district health boards and the
Ministry of Health, and in some ways it's part of
putting it right.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
How much more do we need to spend to get
it right? I mean, how much is going to be
enough in health when we're spending thirty billion a year.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Well, the truth is, no one knows the answer to
that question. But what we do know is a number
of things. First, there are some things, like the big
one is the holiday pay issue, which has to be
done because it's a legal requirement. No One quite new
and probably still doesn't know exactly what the cost impact
(29:21):
of that is. But when it is finally ascertained, it's
a number that has to be found. Secondly, there are
some increases which derive from basic requirements again legal ones
such as pay equity and other pay type requirements, which
again have to be met and can be projected, but
(29:43):
we're badly projected in the previous estimates that were made.
Then we come into the area of much bigger on owns,
and these are particularly We know there is something like
fourteen billion dollars worth of undone deferred maintenance within the
system because of the way it was run before. This
(30:05):
is a terrible load on the system. It can't all
be dealt with in one hit, and maybe some of
it will never be dealt with, But that is an
issue which cutting staff and making the other cuts that
are being made simply can't do anything about. And then
finally there is the new capital requirements outstanding in the
new hospital and the need and in other places again
(30:25):
where need has been demonstrated but the system has not
been estimating or controlling its costs very well. This is
all an outcome of what we needed to change.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, but those estimates that you're talking about very quickly,
who's making these estimates. How are they getting them so wrong.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Or old to fartow work. It's caught middle of this
TAFAO work is trying to pull together figures from the
plenty eye previous district goss boards. That's one part of it, right,
But the main people who have always been in control
of this have been the Ministry of Health and Treasury.
They're the people who have had no changes significantly made
to them in this respect. Ministry lost some stuff to
(31:04):
PA to Ora, but it's basically the historical people who
have got the main responsibility to this and the key
thing is to fight to or the Commissioner or however
it is organized. Can't staff cut and staff restrict cost
to make this better?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, thank you very much for being with me this morning.
Appreciate it. Rob Campbell, former Health New Zealand Chair on
the deficit reduction deficit good, but deficit big still bad.
It is eight away from Sex News Talk SEB on.
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News Talk ZB six to six on News Talk CB
and South Korea. People are gathering outside the National Assembly,
why the president called the state of martial law the
parliament has in South Korean parliament has now voted to
lift that martial law. It's a little bit uncare of
this point exactly what is going on, but Micha will
be covering that on his show. He's with us this morning.
Good morning. I'm trying to work.
Speaker 14 (32:04):
Out that he was claiming the president, he was claiming
that it had something to do with North Korea, and
he was second sec of the way things were going.
And I assume he knew that in doing what he did,
that they could unvote.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, what he did. And there's some he says, some
insidious people inside the parliament.
Speaker 14 (32:20):
Well, that's true in all parliaments, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
But we don't. We don't declar marshal law. Well do we?
Speaker 14 (32:25):
I mean I could declare martial law this morning.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Some so I do.
Speaker 14 (32:27):
I can name you half a dozen in citious people. Immediately,
I was watching Old I was watching that press conference
yesterday with Auckland Transport.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Oh the Browns. Yeah, here's my problem with the code Brown.
So you hate.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
Auckland Transport, right, everyone everyone hates Auckland Transport. But what
you've done is you go, we hate you, so we're
taking some power away from you, and everyone goes, oh cool,
who are you giving it to? You're going to give
it to the council.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I mean how local boards? Yeah, how good are they?
But also, but you're creating a new entity that will
share the power with local boards. I mean that's one
hundred different.
Speaker 14 (32:58):
People hundred so one hundred different ideas. Everyone's got an agenda.
So part of the idea makes sense, and in theory
it makes sense because you know what his argument is
that you know, in democracy you can participate, you can
feel like you know, but no one turns up to
vote for a start.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
No, and no, who do you know who your local
board members are?
Speaker 14 (33:16):
No one cares.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And Stephen Joyce, did you see that piece from him
a couple of days ago where he said, actually that
the council does have control over Auckland transfer ort, it
just can't make up its mind about what it wants
to do exactly.
Speaker 14 (33:28):
I mean, the reason Auckland is the way Auckland is
is because of the council, isn't it think about it?
I mean, Auckland's not one to be great cities in
New Zealand and it's at least partially the responsibility of
the council.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So suddenly they've.
Speaker 14 (33:40):
Got more power to do what they've been doing. So
does that fill you with confidence?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I also Auckland is too, doesn't it? They're not great
people to be around.
Speaker 14 (33:50):
Good on you, right, how do your ratings?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Have a great day everyone.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
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