September 3, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast Thursday 4th of September 2025, a report from the Chief Justice says trials are becoming longer, more complex and it's clogging up the system, former high court judge and former Chair of the NZ parole board, Sir Ron Young shares his thoughts.
Independent tax expert Geof Nightingale gives his take on how big tech pay their fair share to our economy.
Data from the Ministry of Education show enrolment numbers are up 30%, PPTA President Chris Abercrombie tells Andrew how big of a difference it'll make to our teacher shortage.
Plus US Correspondent Mitch McCann has the latest on Trump hitting out at President Xi and other leaders during China's military parade.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickets on
earlier this show with one Root Love where you live
news Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
There'd be good morning to you. Thank you for choosing
the show. We're here until six and coming up over
the next sixty minutes. Good news, students are seeing teaching
as a valid career. Enrollment numbers are up substantially. We're
going to look at this in about five minutes. How
can we make Google and Meta pay more tax because
they're currently taking the mickey. A new report tells us how.
(00:31):
We'll talk about this in ten. This rugby game this weekend,
boy is becoming quite a thing. We'll have more on
this toon. And our creaking justice system. The Chief Justice
has pointed out the stresses what needs to be done.
We'll talk to former High Court Judge that Ron Young
just before six o'clock today. We'll have correspondence from around
New Zealand and Mitch became from the United States of America,
(00:52):
and you can have your say by sending me a text.
The number is ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies.
It's seven after five, It's closely the fourth of September.
Trump has head out at President Ji and other leaders
at China's military parade. He said, please give my warmest
regards to Putin and Kim Jong un as you conspire
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against the US.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I think what he says is going to make fairy
little difference to the Chinese and those who are there.
They know that this is the kind of restoric that's
going to come from Trump. Trump won't lte that others
are standing up against this, that they are showing unities.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Meanwhile, let me Putin has thanked Kim Jong un for
all his help in the Ukraine War.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I want to point out that your soldiers fought courageously
and heroically. I would like to note that we will
never forget the sacrifices that your armed forces and the
families of your servicemen have suffered.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Meanwhile, back in the Oval Office, Donald Trump has addressed
the online rumors about him being dead.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Last week, I did numerous news differences, are all successful.
They went very well, like this is going very well.
And then I didn't do any for two days and
they said there must be something wrong with him. Biden
wouldn't do him for months. You wouldn't see.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Him, okay, And we've had the release of the Epstein files,
thirty three thousand pages and several videos were released to
the public. Victims have been giving a press conference.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Statistically, one in five of your families will face this nightmare.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
The days of sweeping this under the rug are over.
We the survivors, say no more.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
The betrayal that occurs can be just as damaging as
the original trauma. This happens when survivors of these crimes
are not believed, when our well being is not weighed
as heavily as those who have more resources or more privilege.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And finally, to the fashion world, and you might have
had a bit of a fright if you've been on
the fast fashion site Shine Lately. It's launched an investigation
after an image of Luigi Mangiani was used to model
a ten dollars shit Now. Luigi's the guy who was
accused of murdering United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New
York last year. Sean says the image was provided by
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a third party vendor and was removed immediately after it
was found embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and One Root Love Where You
Live News talks that'd be.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It is a ten after five. So the Beijing Military
Parade happened at one o'clock our time yesterday afternoon, and
it's fair to say I whiked myself up about it
because I knew all the players had a lot to prove,
and they all wanted to raise one finger up to
the rest of the world. And I was expecting a spectacle.
What I got left be coals. It was soulless, it
was without joy. Everyone looked like robots, even the leaders
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who I called the bag Gulli Club the other day,
and there was Helen Clark and John Key wandering around
the back going what the hell's going on? What was
going on was China showing off at super modern weapons
in an immorcately choreographed show piece. It was a very
public show of power rather than a celebration of the
defeat of fascism eighty years ago, which is why it
was held. What it said to nations in the South
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Pacific is China's not to be ignored. They're strong, they're
interested in influence in our region. They are united, and
they're ready to be the big voice in the area.
And nations in the Pacific getting help from China. Often
argue that China has done nothing bad to us, unlike
those colonizers from Europe. But the ironing of that was
the parade was held in Tianaman Square, a scene where
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in my living memory, China turned against its people and
massacred them. Putin sat there clapping out the right place
as Kim Jong un turned up in a Western suit,
as if to say to the world, I'm not completely crazy.
It was a very good reminder that the West is
not the world. There are billions and billions of people
in hundreds of countries that have different views and priorities
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to be perceived a world normal that comes out of
Europe mostly and America lesson less. And you know it
was effective because of put Donald Trump's knows out of
joint that line you conspire against the United States of America.
You get the feeling that the president is starting to
realize that his best mates were always acquaintances and not friends.
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Key and Clark greeted very warmly by g It sent
the signal we're still friends in trade, if not in geopolitics.
If current government representatives had been there, we would not
be as free of China's influence as we now remain.
It was a good way to just put some distance
between us. It's a big reminder, though, the whole thing,
that China, Russia and North Korea are here to stay.
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We can't get rid of them. And yes, a lot
of their stances are dodgy, but they're allowed their perspective
because that's called sovereignty. And these guys have a lot
of clout and a clout that the West for long
times have underestimated. Andrew Diggins and we're going to talk
to Mitch McCann about the American reaction in half an hour.
With all this bad news about our education standards that
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we've had lately, it's nice to get what seems to
be good news. New data shows a thirty percent jump
and teacher enrollments three five and twenty five students in
twenty twenty five compared to two thousand, seven hundred the
year before. Primary up thirty one percent, secondary up twenty
eight percent, and early childhood education twenty four percent. More
people choosing teaching as an attractive career, and that can
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only be good, or we'll find out next here on
News Talks atb.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
Dickens and one roof Love where you Live, News talks
at mesquit to past five.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
More teachers are on the way. They just have to
pass university first, of course. So Johnny me Now is
Chris Abercrombie from the PPTA. He's the president and good
morning to you, Chris, Good morning. So why are more
young people keen to get into teaching? What's changed?
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Well, it's great that they've got an increase in these numbers,
and it's fantastic to see the two things that sort
of help teachers be all. We know the tough economic times,
people like to become teachers. They see it as a
a good career move. But also I think there's just
young people want to make a difference. They like jobs
they feel make a difference in teaching is one of them.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Can Erica Stamford and the government take credit for these
numbers or were we always going to see a bounce back?
Speaker 8 (07:13):
I think there's obviously some things that they've done, Like
I think the stipend available to support people into the
career has been fantastic and very helpful. Unfortunately, the numbers
overall are still less than what we had in the
early two thousands, But there's definitely tracking in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Will this help the teacher shortage.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
In the short term No, in the long term possibly,
So we're still going to have to rely on overseas
trained teachers for this. But we a good good sign
that we're moving in the right direction, But there's still
work to be done.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And looking at the numbers, the primary teachers are up
the most, and then we've got the secondary teachers and
then the early childhood education teachers. Does that reflect the
order of need in terms of teacher shortages.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
No, unfortunately it doesn't know. And secondary we need subject
specialist teachers. There's one of our key issues is that
there's no guarantee that the teacher in front of the
young person is a subject specialist. So we have that
significant need in our sector.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yes, we're talking about that. We hear about the low
bar for university entrances at the moment, and so i'd
have to ask if you're needing these specialist teachers. Are
new teachers coming out of UNI with enough skill to
get straight into the workforce, and are they coming out
with the skills that you need to fulfill those those shortages.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Well, it's definitely, the first two years of your time
out of the teacher training at the university is really important,
so you sort of continuing that training. So schools need
to be there to upskill them. Unfortunately, with the shortages
that we're experiencing and those issues, that can be harder
to do that, but it's just vital that we get
the support to do that as well.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, it's all good news and I thank you, Chris
have a Cromby PPTA President on the news that we're
getting more teachers, more teachers have been and more kids
are choosing to be teachers, and that's what makes it
even better. Now the angual report from the Chief Justice
is out and it's not a good look. Shortages and resources,
lawyers and access to justice. Here's an amazing statistic. Serious offending,
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including murder at manslaughter now makes up seventy six percent
of all new trials in the High Court. We are
murdering at manslaughtering if you've got any other sort of
case shutted down the waiting list. And it's something I've
been hearing from the legal fraternity for ages. We're in
a period of getting tough on crime and there's plenty
of political retic wreck about that, which is a great
little vote catcher. I get that. But when you get
(09:32):
tough on crime, you have to invest, and we appear
not to be keeping up with that ledger. To be
tough on crime, you need to employ more cops. We
know that's proving difficult. You need to have more prison beds,
which are expensive, and you need to have a justice
system that can keep up with the arrest, that can
process these people. And whether we've got the money or not,
it's still money that has to be spent. By the way,
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the UK facing the same problems, and they're talking about
reducing their sentences and that's not something we want. So
and we do, and what is the situation? So Ron Young,
former Chief High Court Charge and former head of the
Parole Board. He's going to be joining me just before
six this morning here on News TALKSB. But next we're
talking about how to make Meta and Google pay more tax.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
Andrew Dickens and one roof Love where you Live News
Talk Sat B.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's twenty one after five. The issue of big tech
companies like Meta and Google and Amazon not paying their
fair shares come to light again. A new report points
out that the bloodline of New Zealand sub subsidiaries making
large payments to offshore affiliates labeled as service fees as
a bit of a rought withholding tax of just five percent,
could bring an extra one hundred and thirty million dollars
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in revenue to the country if we did that. And
Jeff Nightingale is an independent tax expert and joins it now,
I'm morning to.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
You, Jeff, Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
My question has always been how did we let big
tech get away without paying tax? In the first I mean,
you know, they're not breaking the law, they're just following
the code we set them.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
Yeah, that's right. So that's a very important point. They're
not breaking the law. But the question that the report
raises is the law currently correct and does that result
in the correct results for the New Zealand economy. And
the tax is pretty low. But the problem is is
that they the big tech companies, they're using a tax system,
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an international tax system that has been designed over the
last hundred years, over one hundred years ago, that deals
with sort of exports of goods and manufactured goods and
things and doesn't really cope with what I call digital
weightless services.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
And so that's really the.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Problem, and that's given quite low levels of tax compared
to their turnover.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Are these service fees I mentioned dodgy, No.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
They're not dodgy. They they are the way that the
intellectual property is valued and paid for under our arms
length all. So we have all these rules that say,
if you're trading with yourself across international borders, you've got
to do it on an arms links basis. And that's
the result they're giving. And the question the report's raising
and saying is that the right result? And there are
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more complexions to it. Even if we could tax them more,
there's a real issue about whether we should tax them more.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's another report that points out the problem very very well,
but does it offer any answers and are there any answers?
Speaker 9 (12:27):
Well, there are answers the report suggests withholding tax, but
there's two risks with that approach. The first is that
we have in power in the US the Trump administration,
who has proven one hundred percent that they will retaliate
with tariffs on our export good We already are being
hit with fifteen percent. But if we were to try
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and tax the US digital giants more. It is highly
likely that we would get an increased tariff response. So
the question would be more taxes to New Zealand, but
higher tariffs on our exports. What's the right arm. That's
the first problem. The second problem is it's not clear
whilst you might collect the tax off the multinationals, they're
likely to pass it on to these human businesses and
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eventually consumers. So the economic incidence who pays the tax,
who bears the cost, shifts through to the consumers, so
we don't actually get it off them anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's a fine pickle. And thank you so much for
your time. Jeff Nightingale, independent tax expert, News Talks ab
by the way. I want to talk about Amazon because
they're starting to get under my skin a little bit
over this week. I'll talk about that after the news.
It is now five twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
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Speaker 2 (13:41):
B five twenty six. Here comes the weekend. It's a Thursday,
and we've got a game of rugby this weekend. And
this game of rugby this weekend is really starting to
take on a life of its own. Some are calling
it the biggest game of rugby since the last World
Cup Final, featuring the same two teams, and this even
though the Lions just toured Australia in a called breaking
financial success. But no, this is a very big game.
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The whole world is looking at this game and it
is going to be a cracker. And it's all been
hyped up and fortified by Eden Park's record as a
fortress thirty years and fifty games where the All Blacks
have not been defeated and we are vulnerable, as the
last test against Argentina showed. Meanwhile, the South Africans seemed
genuinely inspired by playing at Eden Park. Did you do
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know It's been eight years since the South African's played
at Eden Park and the venue is venerated by them,
And I wonder if it's been purposeful to keep them
away from eden Park for so long, to not let
them step on the pitch because it fires them up.
And the French had been in the media yesterday they
were the last to beat New Zealand on the Garden
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of Eden way back in nineteen ninety four. And here's
a fun fact. That was the very first time I
ever went to an all back game and we lost.
But what an amazing try, the try from the end
of the world, they said nineteen ninety four last time
we lost. And the French have been rhapsodizing about the
mythical qualities of eden Park two, which we all know
is a pretty patchy stadium. It's very good, it's good,
(15:08):
but you know it could be so much better. Now
there's a real chance, a very real chance, we're going
to lose this one. Graham Henry was quoted yesterday as
saying there's something not quite right with the team's mentality.
Yet it is a reminder that if the biggest game
of rugby in the world is to be played, it
had to be played at eden Park. And the good
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people are christ Church, who are about to take possession
of a spiffing new stadium, will argue that eden Park's
self declaration that the park is our national stadium is misplaced.
But that's not true. Sorry, christ Church, You've got a
beautiful stadium. It's going to be awesome, but Eden Park
is sacred ground and Auckland possibly the nation, but certainly
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Auckland still needs to figure out how to make Eden
Park better because we need a place like Eden Park.
We needed in Park because it's the best place for
what's about to happen this weekend. Dickens, five twenty nine.
Our reaction to the parade morning, Andrew. What the parade
in Beijing yesterday showed us is that order and structure
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exists in China, while in the West we have chaos
and anything goes. Thank you, Clive, Larry loved it. He
reckon My intro was exceptional, particularly the chilling reference to
Tijanuman Square. Life is cheaper there than in the West.
We need to be constantly reminded of this. On you, Larry.
Thank you so much, Larry. Have we got the news
In a few moments time, we're going to talk about
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Christiach City Council requesting to opt out for more housing
intensification in about five minutes time. By the way, David
Seymour once changes to Chris Bishop's changes around the Auckland intensification,
and I can see where he's coming from. He says
there could be a lot of unintended consequences. The trick
will be to keep the houses that are precious and
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to build up in the places where it's right to
build up. And whether Chris Bishop's plan has it? I
don't know, but David Seymour I believe it's talking to
Mike Hosking on this very issue later on in the program.
And I've got to get some something on my back
about Amazon and their big announcements this week. I'm Andrew
Dickinson for Ryan Bridge, who's on holiday on the Gold
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Coast sleeping. I reckon. This is News Talk sat.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
B News and Views you trust to start your day.
It's earlier this ship with Andrew Dickens and one Roote
Love where you Live, News Talks at.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
B writing to you. Welcome to your Thursday. All right.
Muzz a man with whom I have a bit of
a love hate relationship and he has a love hate
relationship with me is texted me and said, Dickens, it
hasn't been a years since we last played the spring
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Box at Eden Park. We played them a couple of
years ago. You need to check your facts, Dickens. Well,
I heard that yesterday on the Sky Sport program The
Greatest Rivalry. So they need to check their facts. So
guess what. Muzz I went back and checked the facts.
The last time the All Backs played South Africa at
Eden Park was on the fourteenth of September twenty thirteen.
So you're right, I got it wrong. It's not eight years,
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it's twelve. It's twelve since the spring Box played at
Eden Park and that game we won twenty nine to fifteen.
That was the game where the hooker Bismuck Dupracy got
sent off after two yellow cards. It was a very
controversial game which we won twelve years muzz see, I
do check the facts now, apropos of nothing at all.
I may have drunk some pina nol last night and
(18:45):
after my tongue got a little dusty and a little discolored,
and I complained about it, and my partner went into
the bathroom and brought out a tongue scraper. I didn't
even know tongue scrapers existed. It's sister, you shape piece
of some metal and you give the old tongue a
bit of a scrap and I was astounded by how
much gunk came out. It's disgusting. I'm this many years
(19:06):
old and I've only just learned about a tongue scraper,
and can I heartily recommend them now. I've also been
festering this week about the big Amazon reveal that we
now know revealed nothing at all, and credit where credits
to Jonathan Milne from Newsroom did some old fashioned journalistic
leg work and discovered that Amazon has not built a
data center. They've stopped building a data center. They're halfway
(19:28):
through a data center, but it's not being finished. What
they've done is they rented some buildings, stuck a handful
of people in them and some kit and that's about it.
They're not employing thousands. In fact, the year thousands will
be employed downstream, and there is no evidence that they're
even going to As our power prices rocket skyward. It
was suspicious, wasn't it that they were starting up this
(19:49):
high energy enterprise at the very same time that New
Zealand posessors have been closing due to the cost of energy.
And here they also took to Amazon, and to be fair,
I had to listened to it. G They were elusive
and as Heather said, and I'm going to say it too,
Amazon played us as fools, and worst of all, they
co opted our prime minister to help them, Andrew Dickens
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around the country. We go Callum Proctor from the dead
and good boarding Andrew. The public's being asked to get
rid of some birds.
Speaker 10 (20:19):
Yeah, they are pest birds and facts and this is
the rook that we're talking about. The Regional Council here,
along with Environments Southend, are working together to eradicate rooks
across the South. In fact, Southland is rock free. There
are still sightings though of rocks around Otago. Look, these
birds are attracted to recently cultivated paddocks, which is why
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they're a problem. They feed on these newly sown crops
and cause significant damage.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
The attager.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Regional Council says. Rooks also intelligent and very weary birds,
so it's important people don't shoot at them, but report
them please to the council. They have effective control options
which can be taken at no cost to the landowner.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
The only thing rock so good for horror movies. How's
your weather, Well.
Speaker 10 (21:04):
It's a good day to be a rock fine today
Northeries In eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Jamie Cunningham joins you from Christia Tello. Jamie, good morning,
So more debate about housing intensification happening in your area.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yeah, the christ Church City Council is requesting to opt
out from more identification. The councils agreed to seek approval
from Minister Chris Bishop to withdraw the remaining parts of
Plan Change fourteen which relate to National Medium density residential standards.
Now these rules would allow more homes to be built
in residential areas without resource consent. In a meeting yesterday,
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the Council did approve some of the Independent Hearing Panels
recommendations so it could meet the housing capacity threshold to
apply for withdrawal.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Now.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Mayor Phil Major says the decision is about putting the
city on a better path for the future.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Right and David seymore of course challenging this as well
in Auckland. So more debate on that with the Mike
Hosking Breakfast show after six, Now, how's your weather fine?
Speaker 7 (22:00):
With areas of morning cloud or frost being high, cloud
building this afternoon and a high of eighteen.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Maxtel joins us now from Wellington Morning to you, Max,
good morning. You're having a very fascinating merial debate. Its
fear to say what's the latest?
Speaker 11 (22:13):
I wouldn't say fascinating. This was at the University yesterday,
seven contenders quizzed by more than two hundred students asking
some pretty frank liberal type questions. The only absence, Ray Chung,
which was odd because he was scheduled to attend the
event was actually moderated by someone in our newsroom as well,
so we had quite good coverage of it. What we
(22:35):
have I think this year is some quite middle of
the road candidates. A new Curio poll has found Labor
leader former Labor leader Andrew Little seems to be just
running away with it. You've got Ray Chung, Diane Calvert
a few steps behind current councilors. Last night they were
all pretty aligned on some issues, stalling the Golden Mile
pedestrianization plan for instance, slowing that down. I think this
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is going to be a far more business friendly mayre
than what we've got. Regardless of who wins, everyone seemed
to be singing from the same hemsheet last yesterday afternoon.
Safety in the CBD is a big issue right now,
a lot of homeless mental health issues. More does need
to be done. Everyone agrees on that. But beyond the
Golden Mile, which you know doesn't have a bright future,
no real firm solutions as yet. Slow down rates rises,
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of course, but how are you going to do that?
Foster better relationships at the council. A lot of the
same typical stuff yesterday. And how's your weather, parley cloudy,
some showers later, stronger wind getting up to fourteenth central.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Any of the written mane who joins me from orkhand
coome on? Is you morning? So we've got an election
in the Orkland area tomorrow, but a lot of people
don't seem to realize.
Speaker 12 (23:38):
That that's right, Andrews. So what's happening is that the
Electoral Commission is saying, come on, voters, get out the
head you say, just days to go before voting closes.
Obviously this is the Tamiki rather Makodo by election. Votings
open until seven pm Saturday. So as of Tuesday, three thousand,
six hundred and eighty one ordinary votes they've been cast.
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There's not including the special votes, all the overseas votes,
but just for comparison, more than twenty five thousand votes
were cast in twenty twenty three, so at this stage
it's down. So we've got more than thirty voting places
open today tomorrow and eighty four sites open on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Use it or lose it, get out and vote. And
what I found is concerning is that people are saying
that people didn't know the election was on. They know that.
They think it's all about the commy year, that's right,
and not about about the Tomakimikodo seats.
Speaker 12 (24:25):
So you know, have your say, Yeah, get out there.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
What's the weather like?
Speaker 12 (24:28):
Find it first partly cloudy towards midday seventeen the high
here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Thank you so much, Neva. Now, with all the talking
up of our property market and the government's fervent desire
to see it start to boom again to help our economy,
I've got some sobering news for you. Property values in
New Zealand edge down again in August, just zero point
two percent. But that's the fifth month in a row
to fall, and so far this year we're down by
point six percent. The median price is eight hundred and
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nine grand. That is down seventeen point two percent on
twenty twenty two. There is one bright spot. There is
strength and first home buyers and text through saying surely, Andrew,
you clean your tongue every time you clean your teeth.
Thought that was automatic. I thought so too. I brushed
my teeth, but my god, tongue scraper is next level.
(25:15):
We're off to America Next, Trump's reaction to the Chinese
military parade, which was chilling. We were joined by Mitch
McCann next on Newstalk's here b It's sixteen to.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Six international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It is thirteen to six off to the United States.
We go with Mitch McCann, Helen, Mitch, Hi, Andrew, how
are you. I'm great. We had this Chinese military parade
which was not a celebration of what happened eighty years ago,
but it was absolutely a showing off of China's military power.
So how has America reacted?
Speaker 13 (25:51):
Yeah, Donald Trump, Well, this hasn't gone unnoticed for Donald Trump,
of course. Standing beside Hijinping, the leader of China was
the leader of Russia Ledimir Po, and of North Korea
Kim Jong un, which really looked like some sort of
coordinated sort of viewing party. On purpose, perhaps a message
to Western leaders. Donald Trump wrote on truth Social as
(26:12):
this was happening, may President g and the wonderful people
of China have a great and lasting day of celebration.
But he also added, please give my warmest regards to
Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, as you conspire against
the United States of America. Now, Donald Trump posted that.
Vladimir Putin has responded by saying that it shows Donald
(26:32):
Trump has a sense of humor, so he looks to
not be taking that too seriously. And in terms of
what's happening with Russia and Ukraine, Donald Trump has had
a press conference in the White House in the last
couple of hours, and he sees he's going to be
speaking to Zelenski in the coming days about a path forward.
And he also said we'll find out over the next
week or two how good our relationship is with Russia.
(26:53):
He didn't go into what that exactly meant, but perhaps
more sanctions or something more serious coming from Russia.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Meanwhile, the United States had done a military strike on
a vessel near Venezuela.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
So what was that about. It was deadly too, someone died, Yeah,
eleven people died, according to the White House. This is
one of the stories over the last couple of weeks.
I think that hasn't got to the top of their
headlines because there's so much going on. The US has
put a number of military ships outside of Venezuelan waters.
Though really after Nicholas Maduro, they put a multimillion dollar
bounty on his head. He's the leader of Venezuela. But
(27:26):
in the last couple of days they noticed a boat
coming out of Venezuela headed towards the Caribbean, which the
White House said was full of narcotics. So what did
they do. They launched a military strike and blew it up,
and they say they got rid of the drugs and
they killed eleven people on board. The Defense Secretary Pitt
Higseeth was doing an interview this morning on Fox News
and he said it won't stop there with this strike.
(27:47):
Anyone else trafficking drugs in the waters near the United
States will face the similar fate. So the UIs taking
this narcotics situation extremely seriously.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I thank you, Mitched. Yes, that is really getting tough
on crime, isn't it? Eleven to six? And speaking of which,
dickens more issues with our courts. Our report from the
Chief Justice Helenn Kelman says trials are becoming longer, more complex,
and it's clocking up the system. There's some incredible figures
in there, like manslaughter of murder, makeups over seventy percent
(28:18):
of all our trials. The average trial now takes seventeen days.
Sir Ron Young is the former High Court judge and
former chair of the New Zealand Parole Board and joins
me this morning. Good morning to you, sir, Good morning Andrew.
So this is a creaking system, isn't it.
Speaker 14 (28:33):
Well, it's certainly under stress and you can see that
by the huge increase in how long trials are taking,
particularly in the High Court.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So what does that mean for our entire justice system.
It's all we will and good to get tough on crime,
but there's no point getting tough on crime if we
can't process them.
Speaker 14 (28:50):
Yeah, no, I mean that's true, of course. I mean
being tough on crime is important. But the important thing,
of course is to try and focus on reoffending and
try and reduce the crime rate and reduce the number
of victims. So simply putting in people in prison longer
and longer, more and more often, actually isn't solving the
crime problem. It's making it worse.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The UK is facing a similar issue, and there they've
actually suggested shorter sentences. Is that a good idea or not?
Speaker 14 (29:18):
Yes, I think it's a good idea because it's combined
with rehabilitation in the community, and we know that's the
most successful thing, and we know that that's the way
to reduce the number of victims.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Some of those stay short sentences lead to greater acidivism.
Speaker 14 (29:32):
Well they don't. The evidence is quite the contrary. The
longer you put people in prison, particularly at the beginning
of their life, the more likely it is they're going
to be joining gangs for their protection. In prison, the
more likely they're going to get information about how to
commit further crimes. So it definitely makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So surely sending criminals out into the streets is increasing
crime as well when they haven't been rehabilitated in the
prison system.
Speaker 14 (29:59):
Sure that's the point that they're not proposing in the
UK of seend people just into the community and today
good luck. You know, here's your two hundred and seventy
five or three hundred and seventy five dollars. What they're
doing is focusing on rehabilitation so that they are controlled,
they're under very strict situations within the community, but also
(30:20):
getting rehabilitation because in the end, that's the most important
thing for the community.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Should I be shot or should we all be shot
that murder attemptive murder at mansort, a category four offenses,
now make up seventy six percent of all new cases
in the High Court back in twenty twenty. Back in
twenty twenty one, it was fifty six percent.
Speaker 14 (30:39):
YEP. It is a horrifying statistic and it's also in
terms of the stress on courts. It's horrifying that it's
taking seventeen plus days on average. I can recall when
I was a young lawyer back in the nineteen seventies
and eighties, murder trials often took three, four five days. Ye.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So what's the answer? More money, more more? Is horses
are one?
Speaker 14 (31:01):
Well, the only way it's all it's more resources. But
it's not just judges and lawyers, although that's part of it.
It's also court rooms. It's a sophisticated equipment that's required.
There's a whole series of things that are required to
help a court system run I think effectively and efficiently.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So Ron young, I thank you so much for your time.
And all that stuff costs money. And this is a
government that doesn't like to spend money, and do we
even have the money to spend? It is seven minutes
to six.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
The News you Need this morning and the in depth
Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dicketts and One Root Love,
Where You Live News Talks.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
That'd be Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It is now five minutes to six, and a man
with a whole lot of paper and a whole lot
of facts and figures has come down towards Are you
not like the sort of bloke I would use a
tongue scraper? Yeah, I do, and have done for many years.
I used one for the very first time yesterday. It
was mind blowing.
Speaker 15 (31:53):
How did you get onto it?
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Well?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I drank wine, didn't I?
Speaker 15 (31:57):
No, no, no, But how literally do you?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
My partner had had one, said she had it for
years apparently, but I ever knew.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Is it copper?
Speaker 15 (32:04):
No, it must be has to be copper. So it
comes why I evaded. So the tongue scraper is originally
an io aadic practice. Out of there you always go
to the old cultures. The Chinese and the Indians have
it right.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
There's a bit of hippie in you. The way it
was mind blog and I couldn't believe how much gun
came out. And now I'm doing it in the morning.
Speaker 15 (32:22):
Do it in the morning, I'll tell you if you
really want to hear something disgusting, The Indians do it
in the morning. So you wake up and your tongue
basically just extrude stuff in the night. Yes, and you
do it in the morning when you've had nothing to
eat or drink, you will be astonished. And tongue health
as gut health, and gut health as everything.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
There we go, there we go. All right, what are
you excited to talk about today?
Speaker 15 (32:43):
Well, I'm excited on that. That's the garage project thing
interests me.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
So they're going they're going into that well Fa, which
is a great bar. I have no idea why it
went bust ah because it's a great location.
Speaker 15 (32:56):
So and that's the key. So I just wonder how
much of we've obsessed ourselves about hospitality in this country.
How much of it you know, not to put two
fine a point in it. Maybe fortune favors. Aren't they
good at business?
Speaker 8 (33:05):
You know?
Speaker 15 (33:06):
Why can garage Project take over something that can't work
and presumably make it work. How come they can do that?
How come Smith's City, for example, can't sell enough sofas,
whereas other people who sell sofers can sell sovers. You know,
Is it about business, is it about luck? Is it
about your debt?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
What is it?
Speaker 15 (33:20):
So anyway, we'll talk to them. David Seamwall this morning,
without boring the rest of the country, there's a stoush
brewing in Auckland over the intensification.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Same thing's happening in chrast Yat, of course.
Speaker 15 (33:29):
But David seam was interesting because he used the Deputy
pime Minister and Leader of Act but a local MP
and doesn't like what the government are doing. So watch
this space.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Not a lot of high raises an absence, no exactly,
I've noticed. Thank you, Mike is next, have a great show.
My thanks to producer Kenzie. I'm Andrew Dickens and I'll
see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
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to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or
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The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickets on
earlier this show with one Root Love where you live
news Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
There'd be good morning to you. Thank you for choosing
the show. We're here until six and coming up over
the next sixty minutes. Good news, students are seeing teaching
as a valid career. Enrollment numbers are up substantially. We're
going to look at this in about five minutes. How
can we make Google and Meta pay more tax because
they're currently taking the mickey. A new report tells us how.
(00:31):
We'll talk about this in ten. This rugby game this weekend,
boy is becoming quite a thing. We'll have more on
this toon. And our creaking justice system. The Chief Justice
has pointed out the stresses what needs to be done.
We'll talk to former High Court Judge that Ron Young
just before six o'clock today. We'll have correspondence from around
New Zealand and Mitch became from the United States of America,
(00:52):
and you can have your say by sending me a text.
The number is ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies.
It's seven after five, It's closely the fourth of September.
Trump has head out at President Ji and other leaders
at China's military parade. He said, please give my warmest
regards to Putin and Kim Jong un as you conspire
(01:14):
against the US.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I think what he says is going to make fairy
little difference to the Chinese and those who are there.
They know that this is the kind of restoric that's
going to come from Trump. Trump won't lte that others
are standing up against this, that they are showing unities.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Meanwhile, let me Putin has thanked Kim Jong un for
all his help in the Ukraine War.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I want to point out that your soldiers fought courageously
and heroically. I would like to note that we will
never forget the sacrifices that your armed forces and the
families of your servicemen have suffered.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Meanwhile, back in the Oval Office, Donald Trump has addressed
the online rumors about him being dead.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Last week, I did numerous news differences, are all successful.
They went very well, like this is going very well.
And then I didn't do any for two days and
they said there must be something wrong with him. Biden
wouldn't do him for months. You wouldn't see.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Him, okay, And we've had the release of the Epstein files,
thirty three thousand pages and several videos were released to
the public. Victims have been giving a press conference.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Statistically, one in five of your families will face this nightmare.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
The days of sweeping this under the rug are over.
We the survivors, say no more.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
The betrayal that occurs can be just as damaging as
the original trauma. This happens when survivors of these crimes
are not believed, when our well being is not weighed
as heavily as those who have more resources or more privilege.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And finally, to the fashion world, and you might have
had a bit of a fright if you've been on
the fast fashion site Shine Lately. It's launched an investigation
after an image of Luigi Mangiani was used to model
a ten dollars shit Now. Luigi's the guy who was
accused of murdering United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New
York last year. Sean says the image was provided by
(03:09):
a third party vendor and was removed immediately after it
was found embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and One Root Love Where You
Live News talks that'd be.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It is a ten after five. So the Beijing Military
Parade happened at one o'clock our time yesterday afternoon, and
it's fair to say I whiked myself up about it
because I knew all the players had a lot to prove,
and they all wanted to raise one finger up to
the rest of the world. And I was expecting a spectacle.
What I got left be coals. It was soulless, it
was without joy. Everyone looked like robots, even the leaders
(03:47):
who I called the bag Gulli Club the other day,
and there was Helen Clark and John Key wandering around
the back going what the hell's going on? What was
going on was China showing off at super modern weapons
in an immorcately choreographed show piece. It was a very
public show of power rather than a celebration of the
defeat of fascism eighty years ago, which is why it
was held. What it said to nations in the South
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Pacific is China's not to be ignored. They're strong, they're
interested in influence in our region. They are united, and
they're ready to be the big voice in the area.
And nations in the Pacific getting help from China. Often
argue that China has done nothing bad to us, unlike
those colonizers from Europe. But the ironing of that was
the parade was held in Tianaman Square, a scene where
(04:30):
in my living memory, China turned against its people and
massacred them. Putin sat there clapping out the right place
as Kim Jong un turned up in a Western suit,
as if to say to the world, I'm not completely crazy.
It was a very good reminder that the West is
not the world. There are billions and billions of people
in hundreds of countries that have different views and priorities
(04:51):
to be perceived a world normal that comes out of
Europe mostly and America lesson less. And you know it
was effective because of put Donald Trump's knows out of
joint that line you conspire against the United States of America.
You get the feeling that the president is starting to
realize that his best mates were always acquaintances and not friends.
(05:11):
Key and Clark greeted very warmly by g It sent
the signal we're still friends in trade, if not in geopolitics.
If current government representatives had been there, we would not
be as free of China's influence as we now remain.
It was a good way to just put some distance
between us. It's a big reminder, though, the whole thing,
that China, Russia and North Korea are here to stay.
(05:34):
We can't get rid of them. And yes, a lot
of their stances are dodgy, but they're allowed their perspective
because that's called sovereignty. And these guys have a lot
of clout and a clout that the West for long
times have underestimated. Andrew Diggins and we're going to talk
to Mitch McCann about the American reaction in half an hour.
With all this bad news about our education standards that
(05:54):
we've had lately, it's nice to get what seems to
be good news. New data shows a thirty percent jump
and teacher enrollments three five and twenty five students in
twenty twenty five compared to two thousand, seven hundred the
year before. Primary up thirty one percent, secondary up twenty
eight percent, and early childhood education twenty four percent. More
people choosing teaching as an attractive career, and that can
(06:17):
only be good, or we'll find out next here on
News Talks atb.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
Dickens and one roof Love where you Live, News talks
at mesquit to past five.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
More teachers are on the way. They just have to
pass university first, of course. So Johnny me Now is
Chris Abercrombie from the PPTA. He's the president and good
morning to you, Chris, Good morning. So why are more
young people keen to get into teaching? What's changed?
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Well, it's great that they've got an increase in these numbers,
and it's fantastic to see the two things that sort
of help teachers be all. We know the tough economic times,
people like to become teachers. They see it as a
a good career move. But also I think there's just
young people want to make a difference. They like jobs
they feel make a difference in teaching is one of them.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Can Erica Stamford and the government take credit for these
numbers or were we always going to see a bounce back?
Speaker 8 (07:13):
I think there's obviously some things that they've done, Like
I think the stipend available to support people into the
career has been fantastic and very helpful. Unfortunately, the numbers
overall are still less than what we had in the
early two thousands, But there's definitely tracking in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Will this help the teacher shortage.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
In the short term No, in the long term possibly,
So we're still going to have to rely on overseas
trained teachers for this. But we a good good sign
that we're moving in the right direction, But there's still
work to be done.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And looking at the numbers, the primary teachers are up
the most, and then we've got the secondary teachers and
then the early childhood education teachers. Does that reflect the
order of need in terms of teacher shortages.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
No, unfortunately it doesn't know. And secondary we need subject
specialist teachers. There's one of our key issues is that
there's no guarantee that the teacher in front of the
young person is a subject specialist. So we have that
significant need in our sector.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yes, we're talking about that. We hear about the low
bar for university entrances at the moment, and so i'd
have to ask if you're needing these specialist teachers. Are
new teachers coming out of UNI with enough skill to
get straight into the workforce, and are they coming out
with the skills that you need to fulfill those those shortages.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Well, it's definitely, the first two years of your time
out of the teacher training at the university is really important,
so you sort of continuing that training. So schools need
to be there to upskill them. Unfortunately, with the shortages
that we're experiencing and those issues, that can be harder
to do that, but it's just vital that we get
the support to do that as well.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, it's all good news and I thank you, Chris
have a Cromby PPTA President on the news that we're
getting more teachers, more teachers have been and more kids
are choosing to be teachers, and that's what makes it
even better. Now the angual report from the Chief Justice
is out and it's not a good look. Shortages and resources,
lawyers and access to justice. Here's an amazing statistic. Serious offending,
(09:10):
including murder at manslaughter now makes up seventy six percent
of all new trials in the High Court. We are
murdering at manslaughtering if you've got any other sort of
case shutted down the waiting list. And it's something I've
been hearing from the legal fraternity for ages. We're in
a period of getting tough on crime and there's plenty
of political retic wreck about that, which is a great
little vote catcher. I get that. But when you get
(09:32):
tough on crime, you have to invest, and we appear
not to be keeping up with that ledger. To be
tough on crime, you need to employ more cops. We
know that's proving difficult. You need to have more prison beds,
which are expensive, and you need to have a justice
system that can keep up with the arrest, that can
process these people. And whether we've got the money or not,
it's still money that has to be spent. By the way,
(09:53):
the UK facing the same problems, and they're talking about
reducing their sentences and that's not something we want. So
and we do, and what is the situation? So Ron Young,
former Chief High Court Charge and former head of the
Parole Board. He's going to be joining me just before
six this morning here on News TALKSB. But next we're
talking about how to make Meta and Google pay more tax.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
Andrew Dickens and one roof Love where you Live News
Talk Sat B.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's twenty one after five. The issue of big tech
companies like Meta and Google and Amazon not paying their
fair shares come to light again. A new report points
out that the bloodline of New Zealand sub subsidiaries making
large payments to offshore affiliates labeled as service fees as
a bit of a rought withholding tax of just five percent,
could bring an extra one hundred and thirty million dollars
(10:48):
in revenue to the country if we did that. And
Jeff Nightingale is an independent tax expert and joins it now,
I'm morning to.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
You, Jeff, Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
My question has always been how did we let big
tech get away without paying tax? In the first I mean,
you know, they're not breaking the law, they're just following
the code we set them.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
Yeah, that's right. So that's a very important point. They're
not breaking the law. But the question that the report
raises is the law currently correct and does that result
in the correct results for the New Zealand economy. And
the tax is pretty low. But the problem is is
that they the big tech companies, they're using a tax system,
(11:27):
an international tax system that has been designed over the
last hundred years, over one hundred years ago, that deals
with sort of exports of goods and manufactured goods and
things and doesn't really cope with what I call digital
weightless services.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
And so that's really the.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Problem, and that's given quite low levels of tax compared
to their turnover.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Are these service fees I mentioned dodgy, No.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
They're not dodgy. They they are the way that the
intellectual property is valued and paid for under our arms
length all. So we have all these rules that say,
if you're trading with yourself across international borders, you've got
to do it on an arms links basis. And that's
the result they're giving. And the question the report's raising
and saying is that the right result? And there are
(12:13):
more complexions to it. Even if we could tax them more,
there's a real issue about whether we should tax them more.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's another report that points out the problem very very well,
but does it offer any answers and are there any answers?
Speaker 9 (12:27):
Well, there are answers the report suggests withholding tax, but
there's two risks with that approach. The first is that
we have in power in the US the Trump administration,
who has proven one hundred percent that they will retaliate
with tariffs on our export good We already are being
hit with fifteen percent. But if we were to try
(12:48):
and tax the US digital giants more. It is highly
likely that we would get an increased tariff response. So
the question would be more taxes to New Zealand, but
higher tariffs on our exports. What's the right arm. That's
the first problem. The second problem is it's not clear
whilst you might collect the tax off the multinationals, they're
likely to pass it on to these human businesses and
(13:10):
eventually consumers. So the economic incidence who pays the tax,
who bears the cost, shifts through to the consumers, so
we don't actually get it off them anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's a fine pickle. And thank you so much for
your time. Jeff Nightingale, independent tax expert, News Talks ab
by the way. I want to talk about Amazon because
they're starting to get under my skin a little bit
over this week. I'll talk about that after the news.
It is now five twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Four the early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio
Power by Newstalks at b.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
B five twenty six. Here comes the weekend. It's a Thursday,
and we've got a game of rugby this weekend. And
this game of rugby this weekend is really starting to
take on a life of its own. Some are calling
it the biggest game of rugby since the last World
Cup Final, featuring the same two teams, and this even
though the Lions just toured Australia in a called breaking
financial success. But no, this is a very big game.
(14:03):
The whole world is looking at this game and it
is going to be a cracker. And it's all been
hyped up and fortified by Eden Park's record as a
fortress thirty years and fifty games where the All Blacks
have not been defeated and we are vulnerable, as the
last test against Argentina showed. Meanwhile, the South Africans seemed
genuinely inspired by playing at Eden Park. Did you do
(14:25):
know It's been eight years since the South African's played
at Eden Park and the venue is venerated by them,
And I wonder if it's been purposeful to keep them
away from eden Park for so long, to not let
them step on the pitch because it fires them up.
And the French had been in the media yesterday they
were the last to beat New Zealand on the Garden
(14:46):
of Eden way back in nineteen ninety four. And here's
a fun fact. That was the very first time I
ever went to an all back game and we lost.
But what an amazing try, the try from the end
of the world, they said nineteen ninety four last time
we lost. And the French have been rhapsodizing about the
mythical qualities of eden Park two, which we all know
is a pretty patchy stadium. It's very good, it's good,
(15:08):
but you know it could be so much better. Now
there's a real chance, a very real chance, we're going
to lose this one. Graham Henry was quoted yesterday as
saying there's something not quite right with the team's mentality.
Yet it is a reminder that if the biggest game
of rugby in the world is to be played, it
had to be played at eden Park. And the good
(15:29):
people are christ Church, who are about to take possession
of a spiffing new stadium, will argue that eden Park's
self declaration that the park is our national stadium is misplaced.
But that's not true. Sorry, christ Church, You've got a
beautiful stadium. It's going to be awesome, but Eden Park
is sacred ground and Auckland possibly the nation, but certainly
(15:50):
Auckland still needs to figure out how to make Eden
Park better because we need a place like Eden Park.
We needed in Park because it's the best place for
what's about to happen this weekend. Dickens, five twenty nine.
Our reaction to the parade morning, Andrew. What the parade
in Beijing yesterday showed us is that order and structure
(16:13):
exists in China, while in the West we have chaos
and anything goes. Thank you, Clive, Larry loved it. He
reckon My intro was exceptional, particularly the chilling reference to
Tijanuman Square. Life is cheaper there than in the West.
We need to be constantly reminded of this. On you, Larry.
Thank you so much, Larry. Have we got the news
In a few moments time, we're going to talk about
(16:34):
Christiach City Council requesting to opt out for more housing
intensification in about five minutes time. By the way, David
Seymour once changes to Chris Bishop's changes around the Auckland intensification,
and I can see where he's coming from. He says
there could be a lot of unintended consequences. The trick
will be to keep the houses that are precious and
(16:54):
to build up in the places where it's right to
build up. And whether Chris Bishop's plan has it? I
don't know, but David Seymour I believe it's talking to
Mike Hosking on this very issue later on in the program.
And I've got to get some something on my back
about Amazon and their big announcements this week. I'm Andrew
Dickinson for Ryan Bridge, who's on holiday on the Gold
(17:15):
Coast sleeping. I reckon. This is News Talk sat.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
B News and Views you trust to start your day.
It's earlier this ship with Andrew Dickens and one Roote
Love where you Live, News Talks at.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
B writing to you. Welcome to your Thursday. All right.
Muzz a man with whom I have a bit of
a love hate relationship and he has a love hate
relationship with me is texted me and said, Dickens, it
hasn't been a years since we last played the spring
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Box at Eden Park. We played them a couple of
years ago. You need to check your facts, Dickens. Well,
I heard that yesterday on the Sky Sport program The
Greatest Rivalry. So they need to check their facts. So
guess what. Muzz I went back and checked the facts.
The last time the All Backs played South Africa at
Eden Park was on the fourteenth of September twenty thirteen.
So you're right, I got it wrong. It's not eight years,
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it's twelve. It's twelve since the spring Box played at
Eden Park and that game we won twenty nine to fifteen.
That was the game where the hooker Bismuck Dupracy got
sent off after two yellow cards. It was a very
controversial game which we won twelve years muzz see, I
do check the facts now, apropos of nothing at all.
I may have drunk some pina nol last night and
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after my tongue got a little dusty and a little discolored,
and I complained about it, and my partner went into
the bathroom and brought out a tongue scraper. I didn't
even know tongue scrapers existed. It's sister, you shape piece
of some metal and you give the old tongue a
bit of a scrap and I was astounded by how
much gunk came out. It's disgusting. I'm this many years
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old and I've only just learned about a tongue scraper,
and can I heartily recommend them now. I've also been
festering this week about the big Amazon reveal that we
now know revealed nothing at all, and credit where credits
to Jonathan Milne from Newsroom did some old fashioned journalistic
leg work and discovered that Amazon has not built a
data center. They've stopped building a data center. They're halfway
(19:28):
through a data center, but it's not being finished. What
they've done is they rented some buildings, stuck a handful
of people in them and some kit and that's about it.
They're not employing thousands. In fact, the year thousands will
be employed downstream, and there is no evidence that they're
even going to As our power prices rocket skyward. It
was suspicious, wasn't it that they were starting up this
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high energy enterprise at the very same time that New
Zealand posessors have been closing due to the cost of energy.
And here they also took to Amazon, and to be fair,
I had to listened to it. G They were elusive
and as Heather said, and I'm going to say it too,
Amazon played us as fools, and worst of all, they
co opted our prime minister to help them, Andrew Dickens
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around the country. We go Callum Proctor from the dead
and good boarding Andrew. The public's being asked to get
rid of some birds.
Speaker 10 (20:19):
Yeah, they are pest birds and facts and this is
the rook that we're talking about. The Regional Council here,
along with Environments Southend, are working together to eradicate rooks
across the South. In fact, Southland is rock free. There
are still sightings though of rocks around Otago. Look, these
birds are attracted to recently cultivated paddocks, which is why
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they're a problem. They feed on these newly sown crops
and cause significant damage.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
The attager.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Regional Council says. Rooks also intelligent and very weary birds,
so it's important people don't shoot at them, but report
them please to the council. They have effective control options
which can be taken at no cost to the landowner.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
The only thing rock so good for horror movies. How's
your weather, Well.
Speaker 10 (21:04):
It's a good day to be a rock fine today
Northeries In eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Jamie Cunningham joins you from Christia Tello. Jamie, good morning,
So more debate about housing intensification happening in your area.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yeah, the christ Church City Council is requesting to opt
out from more identification. The councils agreed to seek approval
from Minister Chris Bishop to withdraw the remaining parts of
Plan Change fourteen which relate to National Medium density residential standards.
Now these rules would allow more homes to be built
in residential areas without resource consent. In a meeting yesterday,
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the Council did approve some of the Independent Hearing Panels
recommendations so it could meet the housing capacity threshold to
apply for withdrawal.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Now.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Mayor Phil Major says the decision is about putting the
city on a better path for the future.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Right and David seymore of course challenging this as well
in Auckland. So more debate on that with the Mike
Hosking Breakfast show after six, Now, how's your weather fine?
Speaker 7 (22:00):
With areas of morning cloud or frost being high, cloud
building this afternoon and a high of eighteen.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Maxtel joins us now from Wellington Morning to you, Max,
good morning. You're having a very fascinating merial debate. Its
fear to say what's the latest?
Speaker 11 (22:13):
I wouldn't say fascinating. This was at the University yesterday,
seven contenders quizzed by more than two hundred students asking
some pretty frank liberal type questions. The only absence, Ray Chung,
which was odd because he was scheduled to attend the
event was actually moderated by someone in our newsroom as well,
so we had quite good coverage of it. What we
(22:35):
have I think this year is some quite middle of
the road candidates. A new Curio poll has found Labor
leader former Labor leader Andrew Little seems to be just
running away with it. You've got Ray Chung, Diane Calvert
a few steps behind current councilors. Last night they were
all pretty aligned on some issues, stalling the Golden Mile
pedestrianization plan for instance, slowing that down. I think this
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is going to be a far more business friendly mayre
than what we've got. Regardless of who wins, everyone seemed
to be singing from the same hemsheet last yesterday afternoon.
Safety in the CBD is a big issue right now,
a lot of homeless mental health issues. More does need
to be done. Everyone agrees on that. But beyond the
Golden Mile, which you know doesn't have a bright future,
no real firm solutions as yet. Slow down rates rises,
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of course, but how are you going to do that?
Foster better relationships at the council. A lot of the
same typical stuff yesterday. And how's your weather, parley cloudy,
some showers later, stronger wind getting up to fourteenth central.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Any of the written mane who joins me from orkhand
coome on? Is you morning? So we've got an election
in the Orkland area tomorrow, but a lot of people
don't seem to realize.
Speaker 12 (23:38):
That that's right, Andrews. So what's happening is that the
Electoral Commission is saying, come on, voters, get out the
head you say, just days to go before voting closes.
Obviously this is the Tamiki rather Makodo by election. Votings
open until seven pm Saturday. So as of Tuesday, three thousand,
six hundred and eighty one ordinary votes they've been cast.
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There's not including the special votes, all the overseas votes,
but just for comparison, more than twenty five thousand votes
were cast in twenty twenty three, so at this stage
it's down. So we've got more than thirty voting places
open today tomorrow and eighty four sites open on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Use it or lose it, get out and vote. And
what I found is concerning is that people are saying
that people didn't know the election was on. They know that.
They think it's all about the commy year, that's right,
and not about about the Tomakimikodo seats.
Speaker 12 (24:25):
So you know, have your say, Yeah, get out there.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
What's the weather like?
Speaker 12 (24:28):
Find it first partly cloudy towards midday seventeen the high
here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Thank you so much, Neva. Now, with all the talking
up of our property market and the government's fervent desire
to see it start to boom again to help our economy,
I've got some sobering news for you. Property values in
New Zealand edge down again in August, just zero point
two percent. But that's the fifth month in a row
to fall, and so far this year we're down by
point six percent. The median price is eight hundred and
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nine grand. That is down seventeen point two percent on
twenty twenty two. There is one bright spot. There is
strength and first home buyers and text through saying surely, Andrew,
you clean your tongue every time you clean your teeth.
Thought that was automatic. I thought so too. I brushed
my teeth, but my god, tongue scraper is next level.
(25:15):
We're off to America Next, Trump's reaction to the Chinese
military parade, which was chilling. We were joined by Mitch
McCann next on Newstalk's here b It's sixteen to.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Six international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It is thirteen to six off to the United States.
We go with Mitch McCann, Helen, Mitch, Hi, Andrew, how
are you. I'm great. We had this Chinese military parade
which was not a celebration of what happened eighty years ago,
but it was absolutely a showing off of China's military power.
So how has America reacted?
Speaker 13 (25:51):
Yeah, Donald Trump, Well, this hasn't gone unnoticed for Donald Trump,
of course. Standing beside Hijinping, the leader of China was
the leader of Russia Ledimir Po, and of North Korea
Kim Jong un, which really looked like some sort of
coordinated sort of viewing party. On purpose, perhaps a message
to Western leaders. Donald Trump wrote on truth Social as
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this was happening, may President g and the wonderful people
of China have a great and lasting day of celebration.
But he also added, please give my warmest regards to
Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, as you conspire against
the United States of America. Now, Donald Trump posted that.
Vladimir Putin has responded by saying that it shows Donald
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Trump has a sense of humor, so he looks to
not be taking that too seriously. And in terms of
what's happening with Russia and Ukraine, Donald Trump has had
a press conference in the White House in the last
couple of hours, and he sees he's going to be
speaking to Zelenski in the coming days about a path forward.
And he also said we'll find out over the next
week or two how good our relationship is with Russia.
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He didn't go into what that exactly meant, but perhaps
more sanctions or something more serious coming from Russia.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Meanwhile, the United States had done a military strike on
a vessel near Venezuela.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
So what was that about. It was deadly too, someone died, Yeah,
eleven people died, according to the White House. This is
one of the stories over the last couple of weeks.
I think that hasn't got to the top of their
headlines because there's so much going on. The US has
put a number of military ships outside of Venezuelan waters.
Though really after Nicholas Maduro, they put a multimillion dollar
bounty on his head. He's the leader of Venezuela. But
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in the last couple of days they noticed a boat
coming out of Venezuela headed towards the Caribbean, which the
White House said was full of narcotics. So what did
they do. They launched a military strike and blew it up,
and they say they got rid of the drugs and
they killed eleven people on board. The Defense Secretary Pitt
Higseeth was doing an interview this morning on Fox News
and he said it won't stop there with this strike.
(27:47):
Anyone else trafficking drugs in the waters near the United
States will face the similar fate. So the UIs taking
this narcotics situation extremely seriously.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I thank you, Mitched. Yes, that is really getting tough
on crime, isn't it? Eleven to six? And speaking of which,
dickens more issues with our courts. Our report from the
Chief Justice Helenn Kelman says trials are becoming longer, more complex,
and it's clocking up the system. There's some incredible figures
in there, like manslaughter of murder, makeups over seventy percent
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of all our trials. The average trial now takes seventeen days.
Sir Ron Young is the former High Court judge and
former chair of the New Zealand Parole Board and joins
me this morning. Good morning to you, sir, Good morning Andrew.
So this is a creaking system, isn't it.
Speaker 14 (28:33):
Well, it's certainly under stress and you can see that
by the huge increase in how long trials are taking,
particularly in the High Court.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So what does that mean for our entire justice system.
It's all we will and good to get tough on crime,
but there's no point getting tough on crime if we
can't process them.
Speaker 14 (28:50):
Yeah, no, I mean that's true, of course. I mean
being tough on crime is important. But the important thing,
of course is to try and focus on reoffending and
try and reduce the crime rate and reduce the number
of victims. So simply putting in people in prison longer
and longer, more and more often, actually isn't solving the
crime problem. It's making it worse.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The UK is facing a similar issue, and there they've
actually suggested shorter sentences. Is that a good idea or not?
Speaker 14 (29:18):
Yes, I think it's a good idea because it's combined
with rehabilitation in the community, and we know that's the
most successful thing, and we know that that's the way
to reduce the number of victims.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Some of those stay short sentences lead to greater acidivism.
Speaker 14 (29:32):
Well they don't. The evidence is quite the contrary. The
longer you put people in prison, particularly at the beginning
of their life, the more likely it is they're going
to be joining gangs for their protection. In prison, the
more likely they're going to get information about how to
commit further crimes. So it definitely makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So surely sending criminals out into the streets is increasing
crime as well when they haven't been rehabilitated in the
prison system.
Speaker 14 (29:59):
Sure that's the point that they're not proposing in the
UK of seend people just into the community and today
good luck. You know, here's your two hundred and seventy
five or three hundred and seventy five dollars. What they're
doing is focusing on rehabilitation so that they are controlled,
they're under very strict situations within the community, but also
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getting rehabilitation because in the end, that's the most important
thing for the community.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Should I be shot or should we all be shot
that murder attemptive murder at mansort, a category four offenses,
now make up seventy six percent of all new cases
in the High Court back in twenty twenty. Back in
twenty twenty one, it was fifty six percent.
Speaker 14 (30:39):
YEP. It is a horrifying statistic and it's also in
terms of the stress on courts. It's horrifying that it's
taking seventeen plus days on average. I can recall when
I was a young lawyer back in the nineteen seventies
and eighties, murder trials often took three, four five days. Ye.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So what's the answer? More money, more more? Is horses
are one?
Speaker 14 (31:01):
Well, the only way it's all it's more resources. But
it's not just judges and lawyers, although that's part of it.
It's also court rooms. It's a sophisticated equipment that's required.
There's a whole series of things that are required to
help a court system run I think effectively and efficiently.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So Ron young, I thank you so much for your time.
And all that stuff costs money. And this is a
government that doesn't like to spend money, and do we
even have the money to spend? It is seven minutes
to six.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
The News you Need this morning and the in depth
Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dicketts and One Root Love,
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Speaker 8 (31:40):
That'd be Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It is now five minutes to six, and a man
with a whole lot of paper and a whole lot
of facts and figures has come down towards Are you
not like the sort of bloke I would use a
tongue scraper? Yeah, I do, and have done for many years.
I used one for the very first time yesterday. It
was mind blowing.
Speaker 15 (31:53):
How did you get onto it?
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Well?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I drank wine, didn't I?
Speaker 15 (31:57):
No, no, no, But how literally do you?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
My partner had had one, said she had it for
years apparently, but I ever knew.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Is it copper?
Speaker 15 (32:04):
No, it must be has to be copper. So it
comes why I evaded. So the tongue scraper is originally
an io aadic practice. Out of there you always go
to the old cultures. The Chinese and the Indians have
it right.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
There's a bit of hippie in you. The way it
was mind blog and I couldn't believe how much gun
came out. And now I'm doing it in the morning.
Speaker 15 (32:22):
Do it in the morning, I'll tell you if you
really want to hear something disgusting, The Indians do it
in the morning. So you wake up and your tongue
basically just extrude stuff in the night. Yes, and you
do it in the morning when you've had nothing to
eat or drink, you will be astonished. And tongue health
as gut health, and gut health as everything.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
There we go, there we go. All right, what are
you excited to talk about today?
Speaker 15 (32:43):
Well, I'm excited on that. That's the garage project thing
interests me.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
So they're going they're going into that well Fa, which
is a great bar. I have no idea why it
went bust ah because it's a great location.
Speaker 15 (32:56):
So and that's the key. So I just wonder how
much of we've obsessed ourselves about hospitality in this country.
How much of it you know, not to put two
fine a point in it. Maybe fortune favors. Aren't they
good at business?
Speaker 8 (33:05):
You know?
Speaker 15 (33:06):
Why can garage Project take over something that can't work
and presumably make it work. How come they can do that?
How come Smith's City, for example, can't sell enough sofas,
whereas other people who sell sofers can sell sovers. You know,
Is it about business, is it about luck? Is it
about your debt?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
What is it?
Speaker 15 (33:20):
So anyway, we'll talk to them. David Seamwall this morning,
without boring the rest of the country, there's a stoush
brewing in Auckland over the intensification.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Same thing's happening in chrast Yat, of course.
Speaker 15 (33:29):
But David seam was interesting because he used the Deputy
pime Minister and Leader of Act but a local MP
and doesn't like what the government are doing. So watch
this space.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Not a lot of high raises an absence, no exactly,
I've noticed. Thank you, Mike is next, have a great show.
My thanks to producer Kenzie. I'm Andrew Dickens and I'll
see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
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