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August 4, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast 2025 Tuesday 5th of August, the government's announced an overhaul of NCEA, Rangitoto College Principal Patrick Gale shares his thoughts. 

Four big gentailers are importing 600,000 tonnes of coal and storing it at Huntly, Rewiring Aotearoa CEO Mike Casey shares his thoughts. 

NZ on air's dropping nearly $3 million in taxpayer cash on new seasons of reality TV, Dame Julie Christie, the creator of Celebrity Treasure Island tells Ryan Bridge why it's important to keep reality TV alive. 

Plus Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio has the latest on a Chinese national accused of spying in Canberra.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes warm
and try this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be good morning, Welcome to you Tuesday, just go
on six after five the Principal this morning, who's already
ditched mca on everyone else now having to ditch in
CA two that's just before six, Dame Julie Christie. Why
are we taxpayers paying for unscripted reality TV shows of
a foreign format? That's the question. Shows like the Traitors

(00:33):
if you've seen that on three? It's a foreign format.
Donald Demato out of Australia for US this morning. How
many millionaires are there across the Tazzy and Cole will
keep huntly going, Why that's probably a good thing. Seven
after five.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
The Agenda.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Tuesday, the fifth of August. Six hundred former Israeli security officials,
including X spy chiefs, have written to Trump calling for
an end to the war in Gaza. They say Hummus
is no longer a strategic threat to Israel. Comes after Nita,
who pushes to expand operations in Gaza.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
That is all based on his assumption that Hamas does
not want a ceasefire deal. That these talks that have
been going on in Kata in Cairo in recent weeks
have really reached an impasse, and we understand that the
Israeli security Cabinet is going to meet in the coming
days to look at options.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Trump's moving those two nuclear submarines closer to Russia and
the Kremlin Klemlin. The Kremlin is playing it all down.
It says they're always on combat duty anyway, nothing to
see here.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
The Kremlin RS trains to sort of deescalate this, it
seems to me. But of course the under laying issue
is President Trump's frustration with Vladimir Puttin for not appearing
amenable to and in the war.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Steve Wikoff, it's Trump's man and special envoy. He will
arrive in Moscow today. This is the head of the
deadline Friday for posing to make a deal with Ukraine.
And good news for Elon Musk's wallet this morning, Tesla's
handing him thirty billion dollars in shears to keep him
on board with the company. This after a court tossed
out his original fifty billion dollar pay deal. Tesla says

(02:12):
it'll help keep Musk focused as the AI talent war
heats up.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Musk is key to the whole thing. The board recognizes this,
and look, this is an arms raise in terms of
what's going on for AAR and you cannot have musk
sort of semi committed. I think the board needed to
do this. I think they'll have another pay package at
the November shareholder meeting, and I think this is when
investerers want to see from Must to recommit to TASA.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
Ryan Bridge and x foll Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm
and dry this winter.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
News Talk set B nine two nine two is the
number to text disc one nine minutes after five on
news Talk seid B. Sort of mixed reactions so far
to the NCAA changes. I thought labor's a press release
I was reading last night, and you'll be fascinated to
know they say schooling is already an anxious period for
our young people. The last thing they need is more confusion. Well,

(03:14):
I thought the curriculum was making them confuse to begin with,
the whole systems making them confuse to begin with, So
shouldn't we at least try to address it. The number
of people yesterday in education who talked about students' anxiety
or while we shouldn't do this because it might make
the students anxious, Well, we must be careful with that

(03:36):
least we make the students anxious. I mean, honestly, no
wonder they're anxious. It's because you don't do anything. You're
tiptoeing around them. Have listened to this teacher.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
On R and Z.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
I don't think it's an improvement.

Speaker 8 (03:47):
High stakes assessment is incredibly stressful for a number of people.

Speaker 7 (03:51):
The well being of students has to be considered.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
High stakes assessment. What we're talking about here is exams.
Remember those, Yes, they were stressful. You tore your hair out,
you didn't sleep, you were up all night studying. You know,
you went to school shaking. Remember it was nerve wracking.
It was three hours for a start. You'd think kind
of planning your toilets, but that's what you did. And

(04:17):
guess what you got over it. You went in there,
you did it, and if you studied hard, you'd come
out with a good grade at the end of it.
And you know what the grade was. So I don't
understand what the big fuss is about. If we don't
push students. If we don't test them, if we don't
put them under pressure, young people, how will they ever
deal with pressure in life? I just think that's mad.

(04:39):
This is what the Greens. I mean, I don't even
know why I'm playing with these people. Well, probably because
they will one day be running the country again. Have
listened to Lawrence Stu Nann from the Greens.

Speaker 9 (04:49):
Education is about curiosity, is about creating lifelong learners. So
we shouldn't be looking at education purity for the narrow
lens of so the economic framework or labor market.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Okay, so just go and what read the latest magazine
and class, go and read Twitter. I mean, what, seriously,
what do these people want? Eleven after five? Ryan Bridge
coming up next. We'll look at another mad issue in
New Zealand at the moment, and that's coal. Yes, we
are getting more of it. Six hundred thousand tons of
coal is going to be stockpiled to keep Huntley's lights on.

(05:26):
And some people, some people, not everybody, some people think
that's a bad idea. We'll discuss that next.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Ryan Bridge on early edition with x fole insulation keeping
Kiwio's warm and try this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
That'd be good morning. Just gone thirteen after five, Ryan,
sounds like this could help build resilience in young people.
This is the NCAA changes. Yes, Well, isn't that a
word that we need to hear more associated with teenagers? Right,
we'll get to Dame Julie Christie on those taxpayer funded
unscripted reality shows in a second. Just gone fourteen minutes
after five, Bryan Bridge, we got news out of the

(06:02):
Big Four Gen Taylor's yesterday. They're importing six hundred thousand
tons of coal and storing it at Huntley. This is
to protect us from energy security problems like the ones
we had last year. It should keep the plant running
for another ten years. Mike Cases with the rewiring Altet. Oh,
he's the CEO, Mike, good morning.

Speaker 10 (06:20):
Good morning, Ryan, how are you my friend?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Very well? Thank you. Good to have you back on
the show. Now, you're a practical guy, so I know
that you will understand why we need to do this.

Speaker 10 (06:29):
Oh, one hundred percent, and hopefully we can get to
the no nonsense, no spin answers on this. But yes,
unfortunately we're in a situation that we need a giant
pile of coal at Huntley to keep our energy system running,
and we need to avoid it all costs rolling blackouts,
which well, you know, we may have come close to
in twenty twenty four with how high the price.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Went because we thought we had lots of gas and
turns out we had less than we thought we did,
and then you end up with a crunch.

Speaker 10 (06:56):
And that's one hundred percent right. And the other big
problem that we've seen is, you know, twenty fifteen, the
Productivity Commission talked about how we needed to wean ourselves
off get off coal. Nothing happened. Is now twenty twenty five,
and I think we sort of need to commit as
a country maybe to this being the last major coal
or order that we ever make.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, do you think it will be?

Speaker 10 (07:18):
I hope so. Put simply that we just need to
think about better ways of managing our large battery that
we have.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Which is our hydro lakes.

Speaker 10 (07:26):
And one of the most exciting things is that, you know,
the rollout of you know what, I'm an advocate for
the rollout of solar across New Zealand. Rolling out solar
across New Zealand will ultimately allow us to hold on
to our water for longer and burn less coal.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
What about geo thermals talking to Shane Jones about this
now day. It's hugely expensive to drill for nent do
lots of holes apparently, but once you get it, it's
year round.

Speaker 10 (07:49):
I'm a massive fan of our geo thermal and all
other forms of renewables. The simple answer is the more
energy that we can generate in the middle of winter,
the longer we can hold onto that water for and
the less coal that we need to burn. So I
think all options should be on the table, and it
really comes down to a cost benefit analysis to working
out how we keep power bills low or the lowest possible.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
For newsic hoonders appreciate you time. Mike Casey rewiring alted
our CEO just gone sixteen minutes after five. Who else
a really practical people? Nine two, nine and two, by
the way, is the number to text on coal. Well,
not just cold but anything this morning. But the Danes,
the Danish are practical people, just no nonsense, no fluff,

(08:30):
straight up and down. Practical. And there's a zoo in
Denmark that's appealing for donations of healthy small pets because
they need to feed the predators at the zoo, so
they just put a post up on Facebook. Imagine Auckland
Zoo doing this anyway. They said we accept chickens, rabbits
and guinea pigs from anyone who's trying to get rid

(08:50):
of a pet. Also said it would gratefully receive live horses. Yeah,
they've got a few predators there. The deputy director of
Alberg Zoo says, for many years the zoo we fed
our carnivores with smaller livestock. When keeping carnivals, it's necessary
to provide them with the meat, preferably with the fur
and the bones, et cetera, to give them as natural

(09:12):
a diet as possible. So you got some wild predators
behind bars, you've got to feed them. Then you know
they need a whole piece of prey. Basically, can't give
them a dog roll. They need the fur, need the bones,
need the meat and the practical danes get the job done.
Just gone seventeen after five news talk said b Dame
Julie Christie.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Next the news you need this morning and the in
depth analysis earlier this ye with Ryan Bridge and ex
Bowl insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry. This winter
news talks at B.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
This gone five twenty on News talks hered b Ryan.
Interesting that your generation was phased by exams. Mine wasn't.
We knew what they were. We attacked them and we succeeded,
says this person. Well good for you. I found them
quite nerve breaking, although I must say, and did pass
them while they were stop piling the coal at Huntley.
This is from another one of our listeners this morning.

(10:06):
Why aren't we digging it up out of our own
goddamn soil. I've got something to say about that. I'll
share it with you in about five to six minutes time.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Brian Bridge small.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Questions this morning over the future of our screen sector.
New Zella only has dropped nearly three million dollars in
taxpayer cash on new seasons of Celebrity Treasure Island and
the Traitors comes hot on the heels of a two
and a half million dollar bail out for Shortland Street
just last week. Dame Julie Christie's a television producer and
creative Celebrity Treasure Island with me this morning, Dame Julie,
good morning, good morning. Is this it's an ungodly hour.

(10:39):
I appreciate you being here with me. Should should club?

Speaker 7 (10:43):
It's called isn't it.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's right, Hey, she's a very good book.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Actually, there is a good book called The five Am
Club which helps with the early mornings.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, I should have read that a long time ago.
Should we taxpayers be putting money into unscripted reality shows?

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Well, I mean one of the side effects of the
movement of ad revenue away from traditional TV has been
the loss of actually the most popular shows because you know,
mostly because of their costs. I mean, for many years
drama has almost all New Zealand drama has been supported
by government funding, and these shows actually deliver a big audience,
and bigger audience than any drama. We are facing having

(11:23):
no entertainment television at all on our screens. And you know,
we can't just have British, Australian and American shows. We
don't have the we don't have the the the I
guess the legislation which demands that you've got to make
so much local content in order to have a license
in this country to even be a broadcaster. So there

(11:45):
is no protectionism. So I think it's inevitable. It's a
really good short term decision, but we've got to find
a way to make it a hand up, not a handout.
So the long term sustainability is a challenge.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Really we're all going on Netflix and watching American stuff
or British stuff, foreign stuff. Could you make an argument
that that's where we get our entertainment. But we also
now have social media. We see Kiwi characters on social
media and we follow them and they entertain us, and
it's done in a different way perhaps to traditional television.

(12:23):
It is.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
But the great thing about these shows is they are
a shared experience, you know, Like I mean, Treasure has
been around since nineteen ninety seven, so twenty eight years
I think. And one of the other decisions which you
probably didn't notice about the latest thing was the return
of My House My Castle, which is you know, twenty
four years old. It ran for ten years. It was
actually TV two's answer to Fair Go on TV one,

(12:46):
which we produced way back then. So I think these
shows which enable people to sit down together are actually
really good for us, I feel. I mean, the question is,
you know, it's going to be a much harder decision for
a new Cellini when the block bachelor married at first
site in those shows say me too, So how do
you decide which of these sort of shows to fund

(13:07):
is going to be a much harder decision than funding
this one. Normally New Zealand on here would have what
would always cite reflecting our cultural identity as being a
criteria for funding. But this time they appear to have
made a commercial decision, which is pretty much needed.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
God that's said, isn't it? But the thing that I
saw you studay that the Traitor is not even one
of our formats. It's a foreign one.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
No, no, no, it's not. It's not Trusure Onland is original?
Ip I mean, what does an ideal situation look like
to me? Anyway? And it's just my opinion. Is it
an ideal situation looks like is that we start developing
more New Zealand formats. We haven't had one for many
years actually, with exception of Guy Montgomery's I'm Spelling Bee,
which I think is now in Australia and New Zealand,

(13:53):
we're not developing those formats. So perfection looks like you
develop a New Zealand format, you create a hub like
a place where it can be made, and all different
countries come in and make that show here in New Zealand,
therefore providing long term sustainability. We own the IP. There's
something of value, you know, that's a that's a that's
the what the ideal looks like. So to me that

(14:16):
has to be the next step is you're going to
go down this this road. You've got to we've got
to look at New Zealand IP, We've got to look
at improving the things with things within our own industry.
So we're back creating those sort of shows which we
used to create a.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Bit of DIY don Julie Christy, I appreciate your time
this morning, just gone twenty four minutes half to five.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
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Speaker 2 (14:43):
News Talks AB twenty six minutes after five. We need
to be a bit practical about this business of important coal.
I reckon yesterday Genesis, Mercury, Meridian Contacts. They came together
and announced they're going to stockpile up to six hundred
thousand tons of coal to keep the lights on at Huntley.
Coal gives us a backup for when times, you know,
when electricity is low, when the late levels are low,

(15:06):
when the wind isn't blowing. Huntley is the largest electricity
generation site in the country, and it needs fuel to
run on. Eventually, they would like it to be all
biomass and green and friendly, etc. But in the meantime
they need something reliable to keep things chugging along so
as we avoid another energy crunch like we had last

(15:26):
year when spot prices went berserk because we realized how
little gas we have in this country and cue the
predictable outcries of disbelief and feigned shock from some quarters
in reaction to this, including those climate protesters. Have you
seen them, who I can only assume are still disrupting
operations at the Stockton mine in the South Island, hanging
from an aerial bucket with their banners unfurled. Last time

(15:50):
I saw them, there was a woman up there in
the bucket, you know, health and safety be damned, zooming
into a call with a journalist. And she did this
completely unironically, surrounded by a plethora of plastic in things
like the cables she was using, her cell phone, the
battery packs, the tools, even her helmet plastic, plastic, plastic.

(16:12):
She explained that coal was evil, of course, and would
eventually ruin and kill the planet, never mind the fact
that her presence in the bucket meant that workers were
now having to truck their coal from one site to
another using yes, you guessed it, diesel engines rather than
the aerial rope pulley system whose bucket she and her

(16:33):
plastic fantastic friends were now occupying. No shame either, apparently
about a helicopter flying in. This was the local news
reporting a helicopter flying in, Yes with avgas to check
on the protest is after a bit of rain. Paul
thinks the reality is this. Nobody's saying coal is amazing

(16:56):
and it's the only solution to our problem, and let
burn it till we all burn. I've not heard anyone
say that. They're just saying we need this reliable fuel
to tide us over till we don't need it anymore.
If the choice is to either burn coal or have
a cold shower, I know what I'm doing. And let's

(17:18):
not forget that. Even if we did stop digging up
coal and using it to heat our homes, occasionally, some
other country far away would be doing exactly that anyway.
News Talk said Beat reporters after news.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
The first Word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and ex fole insulation keeping Kiwi
homes warm and dry. This winter, news talk said be
sorry that Yordy.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Good morning. Here is twenty four minutes for six year
old news talk sai'd be on coal and Huntley. Loads
of texts on this one. This morning. One of our
listeners says, why can't you just get the coal out
of our ground rather than getting it from Indonesia? Ryan
Stockton coal which is where the protester are is for
export Huntley coal comes from Indonesia. Another says this is

(18:19):
from Howard. Good morning, Howard, Ryan stocked in mine is
coal that is only used as feedstock for making steel.
It is not thermal coal for creating electricity. No coke
and coal no steel, completely different to thermal coal. How
good information. Nice to have the distinction very quickly. Updated
on Auckland's property prices for you. This is Barfoot and

(18:39):
Thompson July sales volumes. We're up over nine percent on
June's figures. New listings are up more than fourteen percent
month on month. In fact, if just looking at Barfoot
and Thompson alone, this is the highest number of homes
they've had for sale in the market for the month
of July, ever, loads of stock more than six thousand

(19:02):
homes at the end of the month. That's just with
Barfoot and Thompson, so it doesn't end. That's country wide,
that doesn't matter where you are. And for Auckland the
average sale price for the month of July was one
point one. This is around two and a half percent
lower than June's average. You've got lots of stock and
you've got the prices basically adjusting, albeit slowly downwards. Twenty
three minutes away from six Crying Bridge, going through our

(19:25):
reporters around the country this morning, and we start in
Dunedin with Forgive Me with Lizzie Leishman. Who's sorry, Rosie Leishman,
who's with us this morning from Dunedin. Rosie, good morning,
good morning, forgive me. How are you. How's your weather
in Dunedin this morning?

Speaker 11 (19:45):
Oh the weather is actually mainly fine today with some
high cloud and some northerlies in a high of eleven degrees.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Brilliant, Rosie. Thank you. Tell us about the weather and
how it's affecting the state highway closures.

Speaker 11 (19:57):
That's what you meant, Okay, Well, there's no surprises to
Ortargo communities that they're the hard is hit by where
the related state highway closures because NDCAA data has revealed
that state highways have closed two hundred and sixty times
in the last eighteen months due to the likes of flooding, snow,
fire and slips, but more than sixty percent were in

(20:18):
the South Island and Ortago was the most impacted with
thirty nine closures, and Central Otago Mayor Taima Paul says
it would be great if they didn't always need to
be so resilient. She says people in Ortago are always
prepared to be stuck on the side of the road
with chains and supplies and warm clothes in the car
in case that the main network is closed, and she

(20:38):
says that locals understand the challenges, but they pay taxes
and expect the same benefits as the big cities.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Absolutely, Rosie, and you deserve it too. Thank you very
much for that cliche. Edwards and christ Church this morning, clear,
good morning.

Speaker 12 (20:50):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Tell us about your big soul approject. You've got a
milestone there in christ Church.

Speaker 13 (20:55):
Yeah, Well this is Carfay Park at Christchurch Airport, which
is going to be one of new Zealand's just Solar Projects.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
It's built on two hundred and.

Speaker 13 (21:03):
Thirty hectares of land out at the airport. The news
today is that the first row of panels have been
put in place. Christchurch Airport CEO Justin Watson says these
first panels, which are known in industry apparently as Golden Row,
have been not only installed but also quality assessed. That
means that they've been validated, signed off and of course

(21:23):
construction can now safely and efficiently scale up, which means
they will repeat that process literally thousands of times. Once
it's complete, the solar farm will generate enough renewable electricity
to power the equivalent of more than thirty six thousand homes.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Great and how's your son looking?

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Not a lot of it this morning.

Speaker 13 (21:42):
There's definitely a frosty stance, some cloud expected today. Northeasterly
is picking up for a time this afternoon and a
high of eleven.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Nice on Thanks Claire, Max and Wellington this morning, Hey Max,
good morning. So Lower Hut private hospitals getting a refurb.

Speaker 14 (21:56):
Yeah, a hot South MP Chris Bishop and the health
Simeon Brown. They were both at Bullcott Hospital last night
unveiling this twenty five million dollar refurbishment expansion, you might
call it two new operating theaters, that's going to really
enhance surgical services in the region, give a bit more
flexibility for the public sector as well, which is farming

(22:17):
these out five operating theaters now up from three, twenty
eight overnight beds forty five hundred thousand procedures per year,
up from three thousand. That's the projection state of the arts.
Apparently all good things.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Right, sounds good. How's you weather?

Speaker 14 (22:34):
Overcast clearing to fine breaks later thirteen the high Central.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's one. Have a good day mix Neiva's in Auckland, Neva.
You've moved quite close to me today, HEV.

Speaker 12 (22:44):
I don't like I'm a creature of Hibbert. What's happened
is that the microphone of my normal seat is even
taken away, so I've had to move seats in.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I don't like it. You don't like being so close?
Can you smell me over here?

Speaker 12 (22:56):
I can see you. Oh, you're wow, you are very
very ten. I can see it. Is it makeup?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
No, I haven't got my makeup on yet.

Speaker 12 (23:05):
Oh, because your sun I mean look at me like
I've been sitting in the sun. Well, you know, if
you find a good sheltered spot that was over the weekend.
I actually improved on my natural ten.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, the weekend was beautiful if you were going to
do it. Anything else you want to talk about? Now
that we're s.

Speaker 12 (23:23):
Close, what about the real news? Auckland's future train network.
Now that's been laid out obviously we all know that
incoming city rail link at the core. This is positive news.
Ninety percent of services is going to pass through this
new underground tunnels with the stops at the three stations
in the central city. Our newsroom spoke to Counselor Andy
Baker now he is the Auckland Council Transport Committee chair.

(23:45):
He says, not this new network, it's going to make
trips like Henderson to the city is sent to nearly
thirty minutes quicker. He says, it decreases in time, will
make it a detractive option for Auckland. As you know,
you could actually in four peak times. But you know,
if you want to go to Henderson and a bit
of shopping, there was the line in there.

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Oh wait, what.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I thought Henderson?

Speaker 12 (24:08):
Ever, I thought I'm going to leave that line in
because I'm going to tell Ryan.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Thirty minutes quicker just because of the city rail link,
it's going to be quicker to get to Henderson.

Speaker 12 (24:19):
Yep, should be ka. Well that's what they're saying, so
you know when that starts next year. I don't want
to put a month on it.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Sounds like a trap though, doesn't it quicker?

Speaker 12 (24:28):
Let's just start saving now for our shopping days in Henderson.
The Wiss will hate.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Us as our weather cloudy.

Speaker 12 (24:34):
A few showers later on tonight ORKNCI fifteen, Great Neva, Thank.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
You have a great day. Nice to see you up
and close. Seventeen minutes away from six here on his talks,
he'd be we'll get to Donal tomorrow out of Australia.
Next interesting out of Australia. They think they have caught
a Chinese spy, so we'll talk to her about that.
Before six we will talk to principal. Reaction to the
big NCA changes affecting kids across the country.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
All ahead, National correspondence with ends in eye insurance, Peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Fourteen away from coming up next is your NCAA qualification
worth list now right now? Don A Demyo Australia correspondent
on a good morning, Good morning, have you caught a
Chinese spy in action in camera?

Speaker 8 (25:19):
This is quite extraordinary, isn't it. A Chinese national has
been charged allegedly asked by China to spy on a
Canmebra Buddhist group. Australian Federal Police have changed the woman
with reckless foreign interference and she does face a maximum
of fifteen years in prison. Now what led to the restume?
I ask Azio passed on some information to Strike Force

(25:41):
Operation Shield and then a number of search warrants were executed.
Now it's alleged by federal police the woman, who's also
an Australian permanent resident, I might add, was tasked by
China's Public Security Bureau to covertly, covertly, i should say,
gather information about a camera Buddhist association. Now, the AFP
Assistant Commissioner Stephen Nutt says Australia is not immune to

(26:05):
foreign interference, but it is the first time the AFP
has charged a person with foreign interference that allegedly involves
targeting members of the Australian community. We've also heard from
Mike Burgess, who is the ASO Director General, and he's
said that interference of this kind that's been alleged is
an appalling assault on Australian values, freedom and sovereignty.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Tell us how rich you guys are across the testment?

Speaker 8 (26:32):
I love this report. So it's from the Swiss Bank
at UBS and it's had a look at some fascinating
stats and it says that around one in ten Ossies
is a millionaire. How's that? And we have the second
highest median wealth in the world is about four hundred
and eleven thousand dollars, second only to Luxembourg. Apparently, Now,

(26:54):
this global report says the surge in wealth is very
much tied to the property market, and well that nation
Australia owns nearly ten point five trillion dollars worth of
residential land and dwellings, so it's a lot. It's about
one point five million, one point five million dollars worth
for one in ten Aussies. But as we've mentioned, most

(27:16):
of the wealth is concentrated into real estate, so there's
cash and deposits. They only make up about ten percent
of our.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Wealth by the way, right, Yeah, probably a similar story here,
though maybe not as many as one in ten. Hey,
appreciate your time. Donna donnod Demoro are Australia correspondent time
now twelve minutes away from six Crayon Bridge. NCA is
out as the government promise Level one gone year elevens
will now do literacy and numeracy tests instead Level two

(27:42):
and three. That's being replaced with a new qualification where
students will need to pass four out of the five
subjects each year and say goodbye to achieved merit and
excellence not achieved. We're going old school again, back to
ABCD and E grades and a percent to boot playing
your tat to college is one of the many schools

(28:02):
that dropped in CA Level one. Principal Patrick Gales with
me now, Hi Patrick, good morning, How are you good?
Thank you so well? First question is this going to
make people who've got an NCAA qualification? Does it sort
of devalue these?

Speaker 6 (28:18):
But not at all. I think what we applied to
propose here is an ongoing resirement. I think if we
stand still in education, we go backwards. So it's important
that we step forward whilst continuing to value the qualifications
that are you know, the plus twenty years of students
have got and have achieved and have done very well
with you.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Have already decided to ditch the INCA Level one. Will
you then do this new what standard that the government's
talking about?

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:44):
Absolutely, So the Foundation Award essentially replaces what it's already
in place in terms of what we call the CIAS
or the Coquisit Literacy and University we's done further down
the school. Still bring that intended into year eleven and
then we'll continue to do years twelve and thirteen as
we already do.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
For a year eleven student, if you're on the first cohort,
what will be different for you about your school year?

Speaker 6 (29:06):
I think the most important thing to remember is that
this the assessment system is just the result of a
really well taught curriculum. So we've got curriculum reform coming
into New Zealand starting next year in the secondary school,
and the quality of teaching and learning that takes place there,
we're hoping to see was significantly improved. Now we've got
a curriculum's going to guide us effectively and that will
allow students to have far better outcomes.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
So the curriculum reform actually more important than the system
itself in Caa.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Absolutely. The curriculum determines what you do in the classroom
and what students learned. That's been a little bit absent
in the past due to a lack of detail. Now,
with a much more knowledge rich curriclum coming into place,
we hope each have fuel guidance into what and how
teach so that students can learn more effectively.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Anything wrong with giving a percentage when someone you know
seventy eight percent past.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit hidden. What's effectively
happened is that each assessment actually will be out of
twenty five, some might be out of fifty depending upon
how the internal external split lands. So when you add
up the total market in the subject, it will be
come on to one hundred. And I think that makes
it easier for the community and employers particularly to understand.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
What about this idea. And we've heard from a couple
of teachers and certainly the Green Party over the last
twenty four hours in of your assessments are very stressful
for students and we should do everything to protect students
from stressing anxiety. Do you subscribe to that view?

Speaker 6 (30:29):
My point of view is that actually our students well
being is determined by their academic achievements. We know if
they get good academic results, we sent them well up
for future life, they will achieve well in life and
I would assume that will reduce anxiety and stress in
the future. So at some point students need to face
a situation whereby they're going to be under bit of pressure.
That's part of life. We already have external exams in place.
That's not changing. It's just some sorts of chosen not

(30:51):
to engage in those.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Patrick, appreciate your time this morning. Patrick Gowad's as a
college principle. It's nine to six News Talks in b.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and x fol Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
This winter News Talk st B. He's gone six to
six on news Talk, said B Across the Tasman. In Australia,
we just spoke to Donn and De Mayo. But the
Melbourne Institute there, they've got an inflation gauge survey and
it's bad news for them, especially for those who've got
a mortgage. You want a rate cut on their very
expensive homes. Surge zero point nine percent for July. This
is the steepest increase since December twenty twenty three, and

(31:33):
is certainly up on June's zero point one percent increase.
So what does that mean for the Reserve Bank. They've
got a meeting on August the twelfth, everyone's expecting them.
The market's priced in a couple more cuts before Christmas,
so the question is will they actually happen. Inflation's just
so sticky, isn't it? And sticky for everyone everywhere at
the moment, well, basically everyone just gone five away from

(31:54):
six Ryan Bridge. Mike's here now, hey, Mike morning. It's
just annoying and fla. It's like you know when you
walk the dog. You don't walk the dog, but you
go to the dog park and occasionally you might step
in some dog doo doo, and then you go home
and you clean it off and you use a hose
and you use a brush, and you think you've got
it all, and then the next day they're still more there,

(32:15):
is it? Right? Yeah? And it's the same thing with inflation.
Doesn't matter how many times you think you've got rid
of it. It lingers.

Speaker 15 (32:22):
Why aren't you working for a bank as an economist?
I mean really, I mean, come.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
With analogies like that.

Speaker 15 (32:28):
The well, it's all the cost plus stuff, isn't it. It's
the insurance companies, it's the councils, it's the people who
are not answerable to anyone really who could know they
can get away with it. They go, why's it gone
up eighteen percent? Because it has, Because it has. That's
how it works, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
And our prices are gone up, so we need to
put prices in. Everyone does, and.

Speaker 15 (32:44):
That's how it works. And that's the great that's the great,
that's the great quandary, isn't it. So what you end
up with is my favorite economic expression potentially, which is
called stagflation, which is where you have inflation but no
no growth. And it's entirely possible. The quarter we're going
to get shortly Q two economically GDP is going to
go backwards, and yet we're going to have inflation with
less than no growth, and that is called stagflation. So

(33:07):
how you dig yourself out of that hole?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Also known as doggy do doos? Doggy doo doos, exactly,
steaming pile of it?

Speaker 15 (33:14):
A raiser Robertson, he's charged with the or blocks. Yeah,
he'll be he'll be into are you as negative because
I'm going to out some of the people here. So
I'm saying two from two for Argentina, not even not
even a contest. There are people on my show who
argue it might not be that easy and they think
they're going to lose both to South Africa. So that's
the sort of lack of patriotism I deal with on

(33:34):
my program daily.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I say, we win them all. Yeah, but that seems
to me like you just Eden Park, isn't it we
win that? Of course? I mean history tells us yeah,
exactly exactly. I'd like say, why not? And he's playing everyone.
I mean he's looking confident.

Speaker 15 (33:50):
I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
The day you play exactly the day the all Blacks
live their lust. Any anyway, among others, educational ministries, you'd
be on the wing when you're have a good day.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
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