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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
They'd been six after five Friday. Teachers have settled, but
why they haven't got much more out of this deal?
So what's changed? Vincent mcavinie in London for US this morning.
Simon Watt's on the climate, Kai Bosh retirement village changes
will get you across those, plus we look ahead to
twenty twenty six. The agenda Friday, the fifth of December.
Still no Ukraine deal, but Posins scored a handshake and

(00:32):
a hug from Mody and this is in daily lots
on the agenda there.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
They still haven't kneeled down that India US trade deal
which remains elusive, and the long term impacts of that
is something that India would be very aware of. So
it's got to be a bit of a dyke talk
walk for India as it looks to forger head its
economic partnership with Russia.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
To Salisbury and the UK. The Novachok scandal it was
back in twenty eighteen, while a UK inquiry now says
Persian was morally responsible who.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Authorized the mission up to an including as I've found
President Putin, that conduct was astonishingly reckless.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
There is a direct.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Causal link between the actions of all those individuals and
Dawn Sturgis's death, and they, and only they their moral responsibility.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Moscow still denying any involvement, of course. Finally, this morning,
an English couple have decided to tie the knot in
front of two complete strangers that they found on Reddit.
Wanting a stress free day, they posted online for a
minimum of two witnesses. Their wedding day involved fish and
chips on a Paer and Cardiff, an escape room and

(01:47):
a theme park ride.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Brian
Bridge and are the Supercenter explore r these accessories and
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Speaker 2 (01:59):
In one us too, each their own, I suppose, so
long as they're happy. Nine two ninety two is the
number of text on this Friday morning. Here are your
top five things to watch for twenty twenty six. Number one,
The battle over the cost of living will define the
election next year. I've seen some polling which puts the
issue way out in front top of the agenda for voters.
That's no surprise, but What's interesting about this is it

(02:19):
shows that nobody owns the issue, despite what the least
recent IPSOS survey has told us. It's skews national, but
it's up for grabs. Win cost of living and you
will win the race. Number Two Luxon has survived twenty
twenty five, but whether he will be the one leading
national into the election is still a live issue. Depends
not just on the interest rate cuts flowing through, but

(02:40):
also on whether we actually go out and start spending
the difference. That is what is going to turn the
page on twenty five and turn the page for Luxen.
If polling doesn't improve by February March, expect Daggers Luckson's
planning a November election. If he's rolled in BIS or
somebody else takes over, expect them to go harder and earlier.
Number three social media bands and fines. Nobody's in any

(03:03):
doubt now that constant scrolling is a net negative for kids,
probably for all of us. But we just can't stop,
can we. Trying to rain in big tech is risky
Trump the Aussies are giving it a go for under sixteen's.
We've done it in schools and the world will be
watching this closely. Regulation might finally start trying to get
the genie back in the bottle, though that is a
very tall order. Number four AI has driven a stock

(03:25):
market bonanza in twenty twenty five, the S and P
up fifteen percent so far, the NASDAC up a ton.
Will the so called bubble burst? Will earnings justify the
massive capital investments and the market caps That is a
big question for twenty six. Number five Finally, Auckland. Auckland's
you big, gridlocked and mostly hated by the rest of

(03:46):
the country city, Good morning. I think twenty twenty six
is going to be your year, going to be our year.
The world's longest lockdown has been followed by the world's
longest recession, and no, those things aren't just a coincidence.
But in twenty twenty six will be back growth, jobs,

(04:07):
a dash of house price inflation, maybe a little bit,
a convention center, a new CRL. I care did you
hear about that? Just picture this city sparkling as sale
GP boats take to the whites Matar in February. A
much needed and well deserved rebound is in coming, simple, easy,
and all we have to do is avoid more war.

(04:27):
Trade wars, natural disasters, stock market crashes and bubbles bursting.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
But that won't be hard, right Ryan Bridge, you're.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
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Speaker 2 (04:58):
Five point thirteen. I told you that fees we're going
to start going up. I just didn't think it would
happen this quickly. If you go to Auckland and you
go to the inner city and you're a resident there,
there's a sixty percent increase in your parking permit fee.
So if you can't don't have a driveway, you need
a park on the road, and you don't want to
get a fine, you pay the fee the permit and
it's going up from seventy bucks to one hundred and fourteen.

(05:19):
Now this is justifiable because it's the first time they've
actually increased it in thirteen years, which is probably dumb.
They should have done it incrementally, but they say it's
cost recovery. How hard is it to issue a permit
to a resident when they've told you where they live,
and they've given you their address on a bank statement
or something. How hard is that? Apparently it costs them

(05:41):
one million dollars a year just for the inner City
to administer that system. To me, that's outrageous. Surely you
can get AI or someone else to do that by now.
Ryan Bridge, good news this morning. For the sixty three
thousand KI he's living in retirement villages, operators will have
to repay residents within a year of their moving out.
Until now, there's basically been no deadline. Michelle Palmer is

(06:02):
Retirement Villages Association executive director with me this morning. Michelle,
good morning.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Good morning, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Can you not sell on sell the units quickly? What's
the hold up?

Speaker 5 (06:12):
The hold ups the property market? That's it in a nutshell.
You know, if we can fix the property market, like
a few years ago when it was booming, we wouldn't
even been talking about the need for repayments at it
by a certain date.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Is there not a demand for retirement village homes. Is
the property market just the same for retirement villages.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Well, no, there's a bit more of a bit more
to it, and we've got a waiting list across the
country for people who want to move into retirement villages.
The problem is that people just can't sell their homes
quick enough to get in. So, you know, in some
areas are like christ it's booming a little bit more.
You know, people are taking between three and six months

(06:55):
to sell their property and are able to move into
a retirement village. In other parts of the country, like
in Auckland, the property market is a lot slower, and
particularly in rural communities, and it can take a lot
longer for someone to sell their home to be able
to buy in and come into the retirement village.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
But why should that be the problem of the resident
who's moving out.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Yeah, that's a fair question, but that's how the model works.
So the outgoing resident or their estates, they don't get
paid neither does the operator until the new resident moves in.
Just as you would if you were selling your own home,
you know, you don't get paid that money until the
sale is complete. And it's exactly the same with the
incoming resident. The payment then is made to the parties

(07:39):
that you know, they're both to the operator and also
to the outgoing resident.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
This is not going to be And what's the longest
that you're aware of someone's had to wait?

Speaker 5 (07:48):
A really isolated case, but an awful one was just
on the two year mark, and you know, a much
older village, rural location, and there just wasn't the ability
for people to sell. There was absolutely a number of
people wanting to move into that villa, but people just

(08:10):
couldn't sell their properties.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is this going to bankrupt the time in villages? Is
it going to be the end of the world, Because
if you're waiting two years to sell out to get
your money back from a retirement village, that's your whole
life on hold.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yeah. Absolute, it is for the operators too.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
They don't they.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Are paying rates and insurance and maintenance. They're keeping the
power on and all those things in that in that
villa when it's empty, so everyone loses on that look,
it is an isolated case. Generally speaking, the majority are
around the sixty seven months at the moment. A year
ago it was five and a half months on average.

(08:47):
But it does string out across and look, it's just
one of those things that is really we're struggling with
as a sector. You know, we would love to get
those resold as fast as possible. What the government has
proposed is really hitting us with a double whammy. We
put forward to the government that there's an opportunity for

(09:10):
operators to pay interest on the amount payable at the
six month mark, when you know, if the unit hadn't
been resold, and the government has said they'll take that,
and they've also put on that full repayment at twelve
months one.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, so you're get in both. They've obviously gone and
sided with the elderly voters. It sounds like Michelle, appreciate
your time, Michelle Palmer, Retirement Villagers Association, Executive Director. At
seventeen minutes after five.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
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Speaker 2 (09:45):
Five twenty on your Friday morning. Good morning, Die, Good morning, Philippa,
good morning detail. Get you to your text in just
a second. But first, the Paris Agreement, the promises we've
made are they basically in the lou government rejected every
single recommendation by the Climate Commission to strengthen our twenty
fifty targets without spending millions on overseas carbon credits. And
remember Nicola Willis says we're not going to do that.
Our chances of hitting them are slim to none. Surely,

(10:07):
Simon Watts, Climate Change Minister, with me this morning, Minister,
good morning.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Very good morning.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Ryan is Paris over Should we just be honest.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
About this, No, it's not Ryan. We're part of the
Paris Agreement. I've just come back from Brazil. We're there
with one hundred and ninety four countries. Really important that
we are part of that global conversation and we're at
the table. One hundred ninety four countries are there and
we are as well. We've got free trade agreements and
it's important for our broader export markets. So no, we
are part of that conversation. But the targets that were

(10:35):
set are pretty challenging. We'll be honest about that.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So we're not going to hit them. Let's be real,
but let's be real. Let's be real. Let's be real
because your own you're even your own scientist. You know,
you're meet Thane guy from our university. Of Canterbury. Their saying,
just be honest about it.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
Look, the reality is is that they are challenging targets
and like any targets in life, we have the intent
of hitting them and we will do our best to
do so that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
What happens if we don't, Look the.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Reality is if we don't have milestone's on a journey
we're heading towards twenty fifty. We have targets every five years,
and that's an important milestone.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
We know that through.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
But the milestone is not the destination.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Wins our next one, win's our next next time, twenty.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Thirty, twenty thirty, five, twenty forty, and basically every five
years there's a milestone as you go through.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And twenty thirty we're not going to have a twenty thirty.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
At the moment. There's a significant gap.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, okay, all right, so that's okay, and we will
hopefully make up for it later. But it's a hope
and prayer, hope and hope and pray strategy, isn't it.
I mean we don't actually have a plan.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
Well, no, it's not. It's just reality that you know,
we targets are said the targets sometimes are very challenging
and difficult, but it doesn't mean that you don't do
everything you can. But weighing that up with the other
challenges and realities that we've got in New Zealand, we're
in an economic depression state in terms of what we
came into government. We've had to weigh up and trade
off and balance what we do around climate in terms

(12:02):
of the impact on agriculture and exports. My job is
to work through and get that balance. And you know,
that's what we have to do, to think about the
best interest in it and the.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
You know, I get like, I get the argument, but
let's just be honest about it, because I mean, do
you know who can see the honesty. There's the carbon market.
I mean, it's collapse. Nobody trusts you're going to do
much about the climate. You're not serious.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
We are serious about the climate. We've got an emissions
reduction plan with a climate strategy, and we're doing and
we're focusing deliberately on domestic that is different from the
strategies previously around a much more broader international play. We've
decided that our focus is are going to do everything
we can on a domestic setting. And look, that's a
positive thing because we are making some good progress in

(12:44):
a number of it.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
When you say everything you can, you're actually doing the opposite,
aren't you.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
No, we're not right. And we've got a weigh up
the economic reality that New Zealand's and exportation as well.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
But I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Make decisions that are going to go against and be
bad for the agricultural sector. I get to make decisions
that are bad.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Preaching to the choir, preaching in the choir, but just
admit it. Say, in order to do this, we're having
to forget about the climate. For all.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
We are within our double within our free trade agreements,
we are not able to weaken our position in regards to.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Our climate target.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
We just say it so we can't.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
No, I'm not saying I'm not saying that, but I'm
just sitting you know that that's what's in our agreement.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
We're saying it without you're saying it without saying it.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
Midday, we are committed to meeting our targets.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Appreciate your time this morning. Simon Watt's Climate Change twenty
three After five News Talks MB.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
The Early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how It
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Speaker 2 (13:39):
It is five twenty five. This is my last day
on Early Edition fortweenty twenty five. I'll be on drive
for a few weeks from Monday, and while I won't lie,
I am looking forward to a few sleepings before Christmas.
I will miss our we five Am club over the
summer break. It's a huge privilege to be here with
you each and every morning, as you wake up, as
you head off to work, as you head off to
school after school, sport, home from a night shift, home

(14:01):
from a night out, whatever you've been doing. Well, messages,
your emails bring so much to this show, so I
want to thank you for all of your feedback through
the year. The good, the bad, the hilarious, the thoughtful,
even the nutty ones. There's lots of those. Two. The
show is as much yours as it is mine. The
beauty of this early Hour is the breaking international stories
that we get to bring you. The sad ending to

(14:24):
the Tom Phillips saga happened overnight. This year, We've had elections,
we've had budgets, we've had updates on wars and far
flung places. This show is designed to keep you up
to date with business as it is as much to
do with politics. After all, the real engine and the
true heart of this country doesn't wor and beat out
of Wellington, but out of the staff rooms, the factories,

(14:46):
the farm paddocks, the workplaces and the boardrooms of our economy.
And on that front, twenty twenty six is going to
be better. We're tip to go faster than the Aussies,
the Brits and the Americans next year and the one
after that. Thank you very much to everybody who listens
to this program, whether you're here for the whole hour,
whether you're ducking in or ducking out, maybe waiting for

(15:06):
Mike to start. Thank you, and a very special thank
you to producer McKenzie who has kept this show on
the road and forgetting the good gets. You're smart beyond
your years, McKenzie, and I trust you completely. A big
shout out to Samuel who sets up our interviews the
night before landed us some great gets this year as well.
Thank you team. Have a merry Christmas, have a happy

(15:28):
New Year. I hope you will get to have a
decent break and some time off with your families. We
will see your bright heart and bushytailed for twenty twenty six.
Ry now means you're not going anywhere because we've got
another half hour of the program to get through. But
we have lots to talk about and we'll get to
the teachers. And why are they settling just before six?
Vincent mcavini's in the UK too, Ryan, Not everyone hates Auckland.

(15:50):
This is from Philippa. I have a cafe in our
south of Auckland, and we realize the true importance of
the city. When the lockdowns were on and people couldn't
drive south, terrible for business. So all I can say
is come on down, Philip Good point Ryan, Yes, the
world will bounce back in twenty twenty six, says DJ Good.
I'm happy you're optimistic, DJ Ryan. Don't forget the thirty percent.

(16:12):
This is on the retirement villages. The thirty percent they
charge off your repayment to refurbish the villa after you
move out, even if you've only been there for a
few months. Geez, that's a rut, A couple of ruts
we're learning about this morning, Ryan. The retirement village's license
holder has no control over the price. All right, more

(16:32):
of those next, Oh, look, we're a little early twenty
eight minutes after five. I did think you were doing
that a little too soon, Mackenzie. I think the music
we came in a little too soon. She was distracted

(16:53):
by kind words.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I know what I can tell you about is the billionaires.
Everybody loves a billionaire, especially the Dells because they're handing
out money to young kids in America. But we have
new numbers on billionaires this morning. So we've got an
extra three hundred this year. Yay. Everybody clapped for the billionaires.
So two thousand, nine hundred billionaires, up from twenty seven

(17:16):
hundred last year. Their collective wealth fifteen point eight trillion
dollars up from fourteen last year. That number is so
big it means nothing to me. Anyway. I'll tell you
the rest after this News Talks MB.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
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Speaker 2 (17:58):
Twenty four. Away from Sex News Talks AB on Friday morning,
we'll get to our reporters and just a sick we'll
get to the teachers settling on the strikes just before
Sex Mince and mcavinie in the UK for us to
Harry's edited again and he's gone on Stephen Colbert in
the UK, sorry, in the US to talk about being
royal and talk about holiday films and stuff like that.

(18:19):
And during this little bit that they were doing, he
takes a dig at Trump.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
Have a listen, your Americans are obsessed with Christmas movies
and you're truly obsessed with royalty, so why not.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Hold on?

Speaker 8 (18:36):
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Look, look, I wouldn't say we're obsessed with royalty.

Speaker 7 (18:42):
Really, I heard you. I heard you elected a king.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's a fair pine.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
No, he's got a point.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Just stop it, Just leave it alone. Harry twenty three
away from Sex now Ryan bred Way to Colum Proctor
and Dneedan Callum, good morning. Right now Queenstown's Franktin Road
worthy of being included in the National Infrastructure Plan.

Speaker 10 (19:09):
Yeah, look a lot of reliefs I think around the
Queenston area that this is the case. It's one of
the country's busiest single carriage routes. It's top ten million
vehicle trips for the first time this year. Frankton Road
and anyone who's driven into Queenstown knows the pain of
that drive. CEO of Southern Infrastructures ross Copland. He's told
us in the past decade the last sliver of capacity

(19:31):
in Queenstown's roads, pipes and power lines has been used
up with little new capacity added. So, he says, the
Infrastructure Commission recognizing Queenstown's transport network as a national priority
is a logical and urgent next step.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
All right, how's your weather.

Speaker 10 (19:48):
I've got a strong win watch here in the south.
Mainly fine though afternoon showers. Those gale northwest is the
high today for duneed in twenty eight that's one.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Thanks Calormen and thanks for this year. I will see
you in twenty twenty six. Mate, clear and good morning
to you. Good morning now the battle over youth crime
taking to the year. That's right.

Speaker 11 (20:06):
We've got an Eagle helicopter temporarily in christ Church guys
from today. They'll be here for two months as part
of this operation to target youth related offending. Police tell
us that the youth crime wave here has peaked in
the last two weeks. We know from our reporting there
have been ram raids, robberies, there's been this really violent one,
this week in or Power. We already spoke about the

(20:27):
dairy owner being stabbed during a violent robbery at seven
am I think it was Tuesday morning. Since then, we
can update you that a fourteen year old and a
seventeen year old have been arrested in relation to that. Interestingly,
when we spoke to District Commander Tony Hill yesterday, he says,
while the number of crimes or offenses has not increased greatly,
it's the seriousness and violence of them that is of concern.

(20:50):
Police say this use of this helicopter will be a
key tool in enhancing capabilities to tackle this. Of course,
it's welcome news to many, but particularly for retail Dead
CEO Carolyn Young, who says christ Church is a hot spot.
Retailers here are feeling worried and frustrated about this wave
of crime. She says, they really just want to focus
on serving customers this Christmas without fear hanging over.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
The bit tooy. How's the weather?

Speaker 11 (21:15):
Cloudy periods today in gusty northwesterlies, but it will be
hot thirty degrees.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Thanks Claire. Now max Is and Wellington, Hay Max good
morning now is hey okay?

Speaker 12 (21:27):
Well, that's been the divisive question in our newsroom the
past twenty four hours. So there's a Weddington universe. A
Victoria University professor who has posted on social media a
screenshot of an email from one of her students that
starts with the word hey. She says she really hates
emails that start that way, and she and some of
her colleagues typically won't even read or reply at all

(21:49):
if an email starts with hay. She considers it rude,
A rude way to start a note to a professor.
This is doctor sor he Ashley Park. She's a lecturer
in the the History, philosophy, Political science, or International Relations school.
She says, maybe it's just a culture thing. She comes
from Japan. But Victoria University itself doesn't agree. It says

(22:10):
it's addressed the issue with Park. Another professor at Vicker's
spoken up. They believe that formal greetings are becoming a
thing of the past. The Students Association obviously thinks that
lecturers should be meeting students on their level.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Is this a business thing as well?

Speaker 12 (22:24):
Perhaps you would or wouldn't email your boss Hey.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I can tell you personally, I've.

Speaker 12 (22:28):
Probably said a lot worse.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
And yet you're still here exactly. I had a look
at her comments, Max, and I thought she should have
you know, you don't reject emails on the basis of
the greeting. But also I think she had a point
that it's about being formal and there will be certain
situations where you will have to show a bit of formality.
So I don't know, I'm kind of with her, but
you have to reply. How's the weather in Wellington today.

Speaker 12 (22:54):
Some early cloud clearing, strong norwesterlys twenty today's Hey.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Cheers, Max, and happy new Merry Christmas to you, mate.
Let's go to Neve of a morning Neva, good morning,
Good morning. Now Brian Tommock, he's not going to be
happy with this, about the ruling about the Auckland Harbour Bridge.

Speaker 13 (23:09):
I know he'll be crying. Why he's been denied permission
to lead this protest over the Auckland Harbor Bridge for
a second time. Now his traffic management plan, Now, this
was planned for January thirty first, this protest and it
did not did not did not meet the strict NZTA criteria.
So he's come back and he said, look, he's going

(23:30):
to continue as he would to plan a March in
hopees thousands will take part.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Just do it anyway.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Yeah, that's what he does.

Speaker 13 (23:37):
And police are saying, look, they will not support an
unauthorized march whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
So we'll have arrests on the Harbor Bridge potentially. It's
it's kind of exciting.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I know.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
How's that weather today, Well.

Speaker 13 (23:47):
It's cloudy. We've got isolated chils. Now they will clear
this morning. Today's high twenty two, not as high as
around the rest of the country.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Eight my goodness, greateous me neva. That's this is my
last over the year, so just want to say thank
you very much. Going to do drive for a couple
of weeks and then I'm off. You bring me untold
Joy in the morning. Thank you. And our listeners as well,
they love you.

Speaker 13 (24:10):
You bring me untold Joy. Who am I going to
bend it with now I'll have to talk to myself.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Try Mike.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
According to six they had the Deloite two hundred awards
in Auckland last night. Rocket Labb the big winner company
of the year. They got the awards. Share prices doubled
over the past year. Market cap now twenty one billion
US dollars. That's thirty six billion New Zealand dollars and
they got a solid book of warders on the books
as well. Chief executive of Sky Sophie Maloney. She took

(24:41):
out chief Executive of the year. Of course, they bought
three and three Now from Warner Brothers for a buck
five year Rugby rights. Steel signed Olympic broadcasting rights. Steal
signed share price five year high and for a media
company at a time like this, that is pretty excellent.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
International correspondence with insurance peace of mind for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Business been to mecavini Are UK europe correspondent with US Vincent.
This inquiry into the death of Dawn sturges. This is
the Novachok incident in Salisbury. We hear a result.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
Yeah, that's right. You might remember back in twenty eighteen
the Scripples, the father and daughter. He was a Russian
dissident living here in the UK. They were poisoned but
they survived. Then a few weeks later Dawn Sturgis was
the recipient of a perfume bottle and it was actually
the Novechok spray used by the Russians. She used it
on herself and tragically died from that chemical. While there

(25:38):
has now been a lengthy investigation into exactly what happened,
and the British now believe that Vladimir Putin himself was
morally responsible for the death, that the order to kill
the Tritus, kill the Scrippoles came from the very top
of the Russian state, and that there was sadly nothing
that could have been done given the high dosage that
she took to survive what happened. So her family have

(26:01):
long campaigned for full answers on this, and this is
a pretty detailed report, very much pointing the finger at
the highest levels of the Russian government for this death.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Are they, because I knowe they say that he's potent
as morally responsible. Are they saying that he gave the order?
Is it go that far?

Speaker 8 (26:17):
Well, essentially he seems to have given the order to
take out the Scripples here in the UK. The Scripples,
of course survives. We know they're living somewhere quietly in
under new identities now somewhere else in the world. But
the knock on effect of that was that he allowed
a chemical which his two agents, these two gru agents,

(26:38):
simply disposed of in the city. They didn't get rid
of it themselves and it had enough of the poison
inside it to kill as many as potentially a thousand people.
And so it was their negligence whilst carrying out his
orders that meant that Dawnstair just died. So that is
why it's come in as being saying he is morally
responsible for this.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Thanks for the uplaate, Vincent appreciated, Vincent meca any Are,
UK europe correspondent. It is twelve to six Bryan Bread.
Finally we have an outcome of the secondary school teachers.
They've settle on a pay agreement with the government that
we'll see teachers get four point six percent over two years.
Remember the government started with one percent a year. Pip
Tinning is deputy principal at a secondary school in the
Bay of Plenty, joins us this morning. Pip, good morning morning.

(27:17):
Did you vote know last time and then yes this time?

Speaker 14 (27:21):
Oh yes, that's actually great. Yeah it was right on
the nose, wasn't it.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
Yes? Yeah? Dad?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Actually what's changed for you or is it the vibes
that have changed? You know? Time to move on that
sort of thing.

Speaker 14 (27:34):
I think what actually swayed me was I didn't think
anything more attractive was going to come with any other offer.
I thought that was as good as it was going
to get. And I just really believe that it's just
one of those things where, yeah, I just needed to
vote yes just to get things shifting. We've got a
lot of stuff coming up, and yeah, it was just

(27:58):
it just felt right to just.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Trying to move on. Did the union because I've had
teachers texting this morning and messaging me saying that the
union didn't recommend. Normally they will say recommend don't vote
for this offer, or do vote for this offer, and
this time it was a neutral offer. Do you think
that makes a difference for people.

Speaker 14 (28:18):
I think it allows people to make their own minds up.
I think if you've got the union telling you no,
then you know full well that actually it is a
poor offer. And if they're telling you yes, then yeah,
it definitely has a sway. I think this time people
were really pragmatic around their vote.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Do you, if you're being honest, Pip does sometimes does
the union negativity in all you?

Speaker 5 (28:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Okay? Do you think the public is angry at teachers
about results? We'll not teachers, but they're angry upset about
the results that we've been seeing slipping.

Speaker 14 (28:56):
I think teachers are doing a fantastic job. I think
the rhetoric around what teachers do or don't do is
really damaging. It's been increasing. I've noticed it's been really
increasing in the media, attacks on teachers, attacks on principles
in our schools, and that's that's really concerning. We work

(29:18):
really hard, We work really hard for your kids. We
love teaching. You know. We don't get into this because
it's like there's nothing else to do. We get into
this because it's a deliberate choice. So you know where it's.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, but can you understand why people get frustrated with
the results, the fact that they have been going backwards.

Speaker 14 (29:39):
They've been going backwards globally. It's not just New Zealand,
it's a global slip. So potentially we all need to
be looking at what's happening within our education sector and
what's happening for our young people.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
All right, but appreciate your time this morning. Thank you,
Pip Tinning, Thank you deputy principal at a secondary school
in the Bay of Plenty. We can't tell you which one.
Nine minutes away from six News Talks at BES.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
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Speaker 2 (30:10):
News Talks AB seven to six. The social media band
that we were talking about earlier, The Australians are doing
it for thirteen to fifteen year olds and already met
As started booting them off their Facebook and Instagram accountsarent
one hundred and fifty thousand Facebook users of that age group,
three hundred and fifty thousand on Instagram. The fine if

(30:31):
you don't take reasonable steps these big companies to do
this is fifty million Australian dollars. And if you're a
teenager and you want to complain about this, you have
to send and you think you've been wrongly categorized as
under sixteen, you have to submit a video selfie to
verify your age, or you have to send them a
driver's license or a government issued ID. Great, go and

(30:53):
give you more details to big tech. That sounds like
a great idea. I would have thought the real action
is actually on TikTok anyway, not Facebook and Instagram anyway.
That'll be Bridge six to six, Mike, good morning, good
to see you, Rye, good to see you. Our final
chap for the year. You're off, Well, you're off, aren't you.
Well I'm going to drive. Oh yes, excited. This is

(31:15):
my last morning on.

Speaker 9 (31:17):
Better on drive than you are here. Do you think
you improve.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
About the same? Aren't saying?

Speaker 9 (31:20):
Because I was listening to the guy who is the
guy yelling at before on the show just you were
just app Simon Watts absolutely hoing into him. And to
be fair, I agree with you one hundred percent honest
about it must be just difficult, doesn't it to be?
As why I'm never going to be a politician. You've
got to What you want to say is I mean,
let's be frank, the climate were the tide's gone out,

(31:43):
but we can't afford it. It's not happening. Don't worry
about this. What you want to say, isn't it? But
you can't exactly politically. And also trade agreement so many
years ago signed you up to a trade deal that
you got to suck up to.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
But he's as close to saying that without saying it.
I guess, I guess would you got to settle for?
What are you doing? Am I Ryan saying? You're doing
half an hour with lux and today?

Speaker 9 (32:05):
Well it depends how it goes.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
The whole half an hour.

Speaker 9 (32:12):
It won't be a whole What do you mean? What
do you mean?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (32:15):
There's a lot to talk about. What we do, what
we do rhyme as we exchange gifts. Oh, yes, now,
now here's the thing. I'll just give you this preview
I other years. I'm actually quite good at this, as
it turns out. I didn't think I would be, but
with ad and we gave her some quite good gifts.
In fact, our gifts were better than the gifts she
gave us. Yes, probably because she hated me.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
But she gave me a mug one year at the end.
Did she give you that mug that she drew? She
drew a self portrait on a mug.

Speaker 9 (32:43):
Now she gave me a photo which was nice. Well
it was me and her.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, where is that now?

Speaker 9 (32:51):
It's on the desk gathering dust.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Not in the bathroom. All right, So what have you
got on them?

Speaker 9 (32:57):
You can't well obviously I can't.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
He Actually I'm on the news last night. He's got
you something from my care Yes. See that worries me
because it was something you have to make to do yourself.

Speaker 9 (33:07):
No, here's the here's the thing he told me previously.
It was really good. There were a number of them,
and I was going to be blown away. So then
I saw last night you. You obviously went to my
care yesterday and you brought some piece of chip crap?
Now that so was he lying the other day when
he said he had already done it? Or is he
just adding to the pile of.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
These are the important questions that you will put over
the space at half an hour.

Speaker 9 (33:30):
Just how the whole thing's going to last for half
an hour. I've got a few preparatory questions, you know,
coming around the economy and the election and stuff like that.
But you know it'll be swapsy time.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
He great. Great to be talking to you this year,
is always Mike very much. I do enjoy our chats.

Speaker 9 (33:45):
Good on you.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I think our best work was actually your facial beauty
regimen we got to on Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (33:51):
That was good stuff. That was the highlight. That's probably
gone viral. Now you have a great, great, great Christmas.
Are you still employee next year?

Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I am. Oh good gamefully, Merry Christmas. Everyone, see you
next year.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
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