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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issues these abuse and the inside. Andrew Dickens on
early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
use talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be very good and very warm morning to you.
I'm Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge. Welcome to your Wednesday.
Coming up over the next hour, unemployment is about to
hit a four year high, So who's getting hit the hardest.
We'll have that story for you in five minutes time.
It's white tonguey day Eve. Is that a word? Is
that a thing? White tonguey day Eve? It's white tonguey
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day Eve. What is happening up north? Our reporter Sophie
Trigger reports on the celebrations so far and what might
happen tomorrow. And it's time to tie home on kang
Order as the Housing agency gets into financial strife. So
what does Kieren mcinnaughty make of the government's plans. He's
just before six o'clock this morning. We'll have correspondence from
right around the world and New Zealand news as it breaks,
(00:56):
and you can contribute by texting ninety two ninety two
or small charge applies, or email Amy Dickens at Newstalk
ZEBB dot co dot nz. It's seven after five.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The agenda, Well, it's when's the.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Fifth of February. Why Tony Day Eve To Sweden, at
least five people have been shot at a school for
adults in that country. Four of them have undergone surgery
in hospital. One is critically injured. Police say one of
the people in hospital is thought to be the perpetrator.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
One of the teachers who was in her study. She
has been quoted saying that she heard about ten sholtz,
so five shorts and then a pause, and then five
more shorts. And Swedish police and Swedish media are saying
that this is a very serious situation.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Two the trade wars, and China has hit back at
the United States as Donald Trump's ten percent tariffs on
all exports kick in today. Beijing has introduced a number
of fifteen percent tariffs and ten percent tariffs on all
sorts of things like imported coal, gas, and vehicles and machinery,
and the country's anti monopoly watchdog has launched an investigation
into Google.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
They've got a wider set of tools available for retaliation,
and they seem to believe that they're going to be
able to respond quickly, and that China has the ability
to endure more pain as well. And so China is
quite serious in this as both China and the US
pasture themselves for what are going to be very serious negotiations.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And Donald Trump has scheduled a phone call with Chinese
leader Jijimping and he's going to do that later this week.
And that's not the only key meeting for Trump. He's
expected to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today.
This comes at a crucial time during the seas fire
deal between Israel and Hamas.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
It's critical in terms of discussion in Gaza, in terms
of the hostage, in terms of the public opinions in
favor of the ostygen and in terms of the political
concerning is well, and in terms of the bigger picture
in the Middle East concerning the Trump's vision.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And back home. Real estate agent Janet Dixon has been
left with her thirty year career in limbo at Dixon's
real estate license was put on the line. That was
because she refused to take a compulsory Tikanga Maori course. Yesterday,
the High Court ruled the real estate agent's authority were
well within their rights to make it compulsory and Janet
(03:14):
Dixon is on the radio with Mike Hosking just after
seven o'clock this morning, It's ten after five The.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
News you Need this Morning and the in Depth Analysis
Early Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your
Property Search Simple, News Talk Zippy.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So it's back. The White Tonguy Amateur Dramatics Association is
presenting their twenty twenty five production of White Tonguey, The
Fury and the Flounds. It's the one hundred and eighty
fifth anniversary edition. This year promised us even more of
the highlights we've come to expect, hot air, overacting, the
odd scuffle, a nation load of posturing and of course
the ever popular flounce by the Prime Minister. This year.
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You know, every year it's the same. We get a
new batch of politicians at a new batch of ewe
and yet somehow nothing changes. Someone's going to get excited,
someone's going to yell far too close to someone else's face.
Some mud or some underpants or maybe another sex toy
might be lobbed unconvincingly and with poor Amatt's somebody Maori
will carry their flags from to Tea over the bridge
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and up to the treaty grounds, and they may even
chant a little unless it's too hot. Meanwhile, kids will
be doing Manu's in the background off the bridge. Then
people will phone talk back and say it's a disgrace
and it's not my national day and never will be.
And you know they've never been there and never will
and therefore they will never really know. The whole thing
is a fast, a gentle face, the same script every year.
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It's not really a hotbed of controversy, no matter how
the media chooses to report it. The players will over
remote because they know a camera is near. You know,
I never believed Helen Clark's tears because she couldn't speak,
because she's a tougher old bird than that. The meeting
of the clans, both Maori and Crown, is always full
of civility, really and old fashioned speechification, but nothing rarely
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gets discussed White Tonguey on its day. Everybody is too
busy socializing and posturing and wearing too many clothes and
the sweltering heat, and we all know the real corddo
happens elsewhere, and the real stuff happens in private. White
Tonguey Day is for show. And if you actually go,
you'll see it is a good show, full of emotions
of a nation and some amazing tableaus. We saw one yesterday,
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the arrival of the Maori Queen. We'll see the dawn.
We'll see the images of armed forces by the flag staff,
the navy and the harbor, the workers paddling their way
across the Russell Foreshore, and we'll see Maori har rump
thing outside a meeting house. And you know, I think
it's a good show because it's.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Our show, Andrew Dickens.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So I've got some proof here that Wellington's doing it tough.
The Wellington City Rtable valuations have come out and on
average house values have plummeted twenty four point four percent
since twenty twenty one. It's a quarter capital values have
fallen across every suburb, some at twelve point one percent,
some at twenty nine point three percent. It's a heartbreak
for a house owner. The average house value is now
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sitting at just over one million. QV says it's because
of the economic headwinds that have been buffeting the city
and with such a big drop in values, Wellingtonians will
be happy or will be hoping for a silver lining.
They'll be hoping for a decrease in rates, but dream on.
The values only determine the percentage of the rate bill
that the property owner needs to pay, so it will
make little difference. It's still going to get stung. In fact,
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some of the suburbs that have not fallen as much
or see a rate rise. Merry Christmas, So to lose
lose for Wellington this morning, I'm sorry, hold on, hang
in there. Meanwhile, Auckland valuations will not be released until
sometime in May at the earliest, after being delayed. They're
expected to show little movement from the last valuations in
twenty twenty one. So it's five thirteen and we'll talk
(06:49):
unemployment in a few moments time. We've got the senior
economists from the ASB with us. The data comes out
today and we're expecting it to head a four year high.
I'm talking about the number five. That's next. News Talks ab.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and one Room Make Your Property Search Simple. News Talks
a B.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Five sixteen on a Wednesday, and unemployment is expected to
hit a four year high for the end of last year.
This morning will be the last major data release before
the OCR decision that's coming out on February the nineteenth.
The Reserve Bank is forecasting the unemployment rate to rise
from four point eight percent to five point one percent.
(07:33):
So I'm joined now by senior economists at the ASB
Marx Smith. Goodbrding to you, Mark, good morning. Do you
reckon it's a five in?
Speaker 6 (07:39):
It could well be. There is a lot of variability
in the numbers, obviously, but what we do know is
that the economy has gone through a concerted downturn and
the labor market tempts to follow.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Is this just because of the public sector carts or
is this happening across the board?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Yeah, it's a lot more broad based than that. But
obviously Willington will be a you've been feeling the pain,
but there are other regions and other groups as well
that will be also feeling the front of this.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay, So who's hit hardest, who's not getting the jobs?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
When you look at the unemployment rates, really the pickups
that have been very sizeable for the younger age groups
that the young cohorts. So essentially what happens is really
the last ones into the labor market typically the first
ones out. So really those groups, and you're looking at
some effort groups, particularly Pacific Islands and audi as well,
they really start to feel the bunt from this downtown.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
What could this do to wage pressure?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
What we have been seeing is that wage pressures have
been really calling the economy. To give me an idea
of what's been happening, the economy is likely to loser
net thirty thousand jobs over last year. So as the
economy is slowed, the demand of labor is called, and
lobor demand of labor typically means much core will increase
some wages, and that combined with lower inflation, we'll see
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those increases in wages really shrink from the higher by
six percent to probably under three percent by the end
of the year, and a lot that really means prescius
is on inflation. They're likely to call and I'll be
encouraging from an inflation point of view.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I mean, if you're waking up and well into this
morning and I've just told you about your your rateable
values falling by a quarter, and now you're hearing that
unemployment's bad in that area, tell me, is there any
region that is actually getting good news?
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Probably?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Typically though I think really what we're seeing is a
pronounced downturn throughout the economy, but there are some bright
spots within that. There are some areas tipping in provincial
areas where where commodity prices have been strong, produced for
terms have been good. But as I said, there are
some reasons such as Willington, for example, where the downtown
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has really been the most acut Well.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
All remark, I think you for your time today, senior
economists at the ASB Marksmith those figures out later today
it is five eighteen. You can text on ninety two
ninety two. Someone says you're right, White Tonguey Day is
pure BS. Something for the media. Really, Now we just
go up there and have a look. Really, the real people,
the decent people, ignore it and get on with your lives.
Oh I take it from that you're not taking the holiday.
Then you'll keep working worrying about the productivity. Now you
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can keep on texting me ninety two ninety two, but
next we will go to White Tonguey. Sophie Trigger is
our reporter and she's standing by. It is five nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Earlier this year
with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your property search
simple if you talk.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Said the.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Grunts just texted me and said no holiday on the
farm here and I will not be watching that show either.
Thank you for your text. Christopher Luxan going to Akaroa.
Some people say that's a snub against Maldi. I think
it's a bit broader than that. More on that in
just a few moments time. But of course the white
tonguey commemorations have started. Remember it's a week long thing.
It's not just one day. They've already started that doing it. Politicians, ee,
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leaders and far no that there already. They've been arriving
ahead of the big day on Thursday tomorrow, news talks
here be. Political reporter Sophie Trigger has made the trip
up north and joins me.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
Now, Hello Sophie, Good morning Andrew. How are you good?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
First time or what second time?
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Actually, Andrew, I was up here last year as well.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I was watching the Telly last night. I have to
say the arrival of the Maori Queen was quite some pedgeant.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Yeah, hundreds turned out to watch Andrew and the porpity.
Yesterday welcomed the king Etang king e tongue, including the
new monarch naw Way honod It's A paul It was
her first white tonguey as the Mahdi Queen after the
passing of her father, King tu Hatia last year. And
also in the contingent was to Patimari, which arrived as
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part of the King E Tangua porphyy this year as
it did last year, really consolidating that public relationship between
to Patimari and the King Etangua ahead of the rest
of the politicians arriving on the treaty grounds later this morning. Yesterday,
we also had a number of other groups welcomed in
a separate porpity in the morning, which included the White
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Tongue Tribunal, local Government New Zealand, the judiciary, and the
Diplomatic Corps, the head of which is Mexican Ambassador Alfredo
Perez Bravo, who you may have seen in the news
a bit over the past week.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, he met with Winston Peters. They had lunch. Now
I'm sure they got on because you can't have lunch
with Winston Peters to not have a good time.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Well, a meeting took place yesterday, that's correct, between Winston
Peters and the Mexican ambassador. So this follows, of course,
comments made in the House last week by Peter's own colleague,
Minister Shane Jones, who called out send the Mexicans home,
directed towards Green MP's and it was described as xenophobic
(12:40):
and racist by the Green Party. So after this comment,
the Mexican Embassy confirmed it was following up on the
matter through diplomatic channels. Now, Alfredo Prez Bravo, as the
dean of the Diplomatic Corps, was part of this contingent
welcomed onto the grounds yesterday and we spoke to the
ambassador after the porpity and he confirmed he was meeting
(13:01):
with Peter soon, but wouldn't really comment further on the
matter at all. He didn't say whether he would raise
the issue with Peters, but said that the interaction would
be friendly. So we don't yet know what exactly took
place in the meeting, but as you say, Peters has
shared a picture of the two of them yesterday, so
we'll have to wait to speak to him to find
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out sort of what happens, if there were apologies offered,
if there was any sort of resolution to that.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So I called this day White Tongy Eve as the
day before.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
What's happening today, Yeah, so this morning we will have
all parties, that's except for Tapatimari, which arrived yesterday welcomed
onto the treaty grounds. Last year we had a separate
poor forty for government and opposition, but today they will
all be arriving side by side. Of course, a notable
absence is the Prime Minister Chris Luxon. He'll be in
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the South Island ahead of spending White Tangi in Akaroa,
but will no doubt hear from him at some point
today as well. And considering the Treaty Principles Bill is
such a live issue oral submissions beginning at Select Committee
last week, it is expected to result in some heated
cotit or tomorrow in today sorry, in the speeches from
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both sides. It's also brought large numbers of people to
Wheitangi again this year. White Tangi leader's estimate it could
be the same size or even bigger than last year.
And I've spoken to token some people who were attending
White Tangi for the first time for the reason of
protecting tatidity. So today is going to bring actually to
David Seymour face to face with some of these critics
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for the first time this year, considering it wasn't at
the last. And there are a couple of weeks ago
another forum in which the government can hear from MARDI
and EWE leaders on these issues. We are also expecting
the arrival of a toy to tatidity protest on the
Treaty grounds, so thousands are expected to be part of that.
And that's the group behind last year's massive hikois to
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Parliament in no Zemba.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Very good, Sophie, enjoy the day and I thank you.
It is five twenty five the early.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio. How it by News.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Talks It be new Talk Shibby. It is five twenty seven.
So it is the week of White Tonguey and this
week it's been the perennial should he or shouldn't he
go debate about the Prime Minister. Now, personally, I've always
said this, I'd always go to White Tonguey if I
were the PM, even if it was just for one
of the days of the ceremonies. I mean, the air
force is not the strongest, but the air Force is
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perfectly capable of getting him to both white tonguey and
akoror if he really wanted to. And it's said that
his non attendance is a snub of MILDI, but I
think there's another way of looking at it. He could
be staying away because he doesn't want to ruffle Maldi feathers.
He has publicly said repeatedly that the treaty principal's actor
is going nowhere, So why go somewhere where he'll get
the heat for something he's never intended to do. David
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Seymour can go and he is. It's David's baby, and
he's more than happy to stand it. He'll take the
heat and he'll give it back. But our Prime Minister
doesn't want to go somewhere where he'll be yelled at
for something he will not do. So maybe this isn't
a snub of Mari as such, but perhaps one of
his right wing supporters and don't suit the messenger. I've
been looking at right wing discussion groups and check groups.
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They are getting increasingly vocal that they've been sold a
damp squib, that the Prime Minister is no different to
the other mob, that he's a liberal and he's a
globalist and a mari apologist and worst of all, a
man without a plan. His weekly media around is becoming
increasingly fractious, all sides demanding that he actually do something
more than cutting all the spending. Just take a listen
to the Mike Hosking podcast from yesterday and see if
(16:39):
he answers stuff. Questions about policy is being answered repeatedly
with we're looking at that down the track, which is
this year's version of working groups and announcements of announcements.
So anyway, hopefully Christopher Luxon has a pleasant time at
Akaroa Harbor because that's the way he likes it. He
likes a nice, quiet, deferential crowd who loves the Prime
minister because he's just the Prime Minister. So it's five
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twenty nine. We're going to talk or Aura over the
next half hour with kra Mconnulty. They're in financial strife.
They need to have a cup of tea. More on this.
Just before six, we're off to the UK with our
international correspondent said, we'll have correspondents from right around New Zealand.
My name is Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge. Good
morning to.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
You, benet to the.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
News and Views You Trust to start your day in
early edition with Andrew Dickens and One roof Make your
Property search Simple. You talk sidy.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Because I told Joby good morning to you. I'm Andrew Dickens.
It's Wednesday. Tomorrow is a holiday. It's our national day.
But some people don't say that.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Look, there's a British bloke who ran the entire length
of Africa. He's announced his next challenge. He wants to
come to New Zealand and run the full length of
this country. His nickname is the Hardest Geezer. His real
name is Russ Cook. We'll talk about him with Gavin
Gray in a few moments time. So if you're traveling
an Orclands on the motorway, you might have noticed a
giant white building rising beside the motorway at Manco City.
(18:25):
It's enormous. It's monolithic, it's gleaming white. It's got this
huge soaring spy. It's huge. It's so big. When I
saw it, I thought that looks like the Battersea Power
Station after a makeover. So this thing is the new
Temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
Otherwise known as the Mormons, and it's very imposing indeed,
and if you've been curious as to what might be inside,
well they're having an open month from the twenty seventh
(18:48):
of February into the twenty second of March. You can
go visit the church during the day. You can't go
on Sundays. And there's this church has that epic European
church feel to it, like tourists might want to go,
and I'm sure that there'll be met people wanting to
visit just to see if the inside matches the out
and whether they could be tom cruise. Meanwhile, kang or Aura,
this is a big story. It's getting a budgetary haircut.
(19:11):
Both the chairmen and the CEO and the government said
yesterday the agency is in financial strife. So it's a
back to basics approach with plans cut and a focus
of managing the properties and the tenants. So why is
ko and strife, Well, it went too hard. They saw
significant growth over the past five years, delivering thirteen thousand
new homes and refurbishing three thousand, four hundred because the
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last government believed we didn't have enough houses so much
so they started getting into schemes and the whole keyw
we build Fiesco and there were building state houses. They
allowed construction costs to climb markedly against market rates while
all the time building like billy.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And so the whole thing was, according to the chairman
and the CEO and the government, unsustainable. So it's time
for a cup of tea. And you have to wonder
if they were still in charge with the label we'll
be doing the same thing now. We'll find that out
with Kieren McNulty who's about ten minutes away. It is
twenty one.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
To six Andrew Dickens.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So around the country we go. Callum Proctor joins us
from Dunedin. Good morning to you. Callum No, Kellum, there's
Callum here.
Speaker 11 (20:14):
You got me there?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Good morning yeah, well a lovely voice. You should be
in radio. The return of the world's Fastest Indian, the
Bert Monroe Challenge is back.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
It is back for its eighteenth year, with events kicking
off today running through to Sunday. Look, this is huge,
attracts thousands of motorcycle enthusiasts to in for cargol both
riders and spectators. It said to be the largest motorcycle
rally in the Southern Hemisphere. In fact, one of the
more popular events is the beach racing. It's Friday afternoon
at Oriti Beach that draws a big crowd given that
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you can't normally race there, and is also the racing
at Taratong all weekend South and Police Andrews say they'll
be highly visible over coming days to deal with the
influx of visitors. And how's the weather good friend for
cargol fine twenty four Dunedin's fine and twenty two today
great stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
We're going to crash now, Thomas Race. Good morning here morning.
Tell me about christ Church's quality of life?
Speaker 10 (21:06):
Yes, so, Christchurchers has done their latest quality of life survey.
Eighty percent of residents are enjoying their life in the
Gardens city and that's pretty in line with the previous
year's results. The amount of people who believe their equality
life has improved in the last year has increased seven
percent and that's up to slightly more than a quarter
of residents. But those feeling a sense of community in
the neighborhood though, has dipped to forty percent and that's
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just below the national average. And the confidence in the
city Council remains low. Only thirty eight percent, having believing
it makes decisions in christ Church's best interests.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How's the weather not too bad?
Speaker 10 (21:40):
Bit of cloud clearing and becoming fined in the morning,
but that will return later tonight. Northeasterlies easing in the evening,
high of twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Good stuff, that's a positive and the quality of life
Max told joins us from Wellington. Hello Max, good morning.
I'm sorry your house prices have plummeted.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
Well I don't own a home, so it's not too
bad for me. Just massive, massive drops though in value
across the region. This is the front page of the
Herald this morning as well. We were so high in
twenty twenty one at the peak for sellers. You might
say that a drop probably felt inevitable at the next
count but this is still just really bad news for
homeowners in Wellington. Obviously, the city's economic struggles have been noted.
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What you're looking at is values falling in every single
suburb from between twelve to thirty percent, the overall average
decline twenty one percent. Owners are going to be able
to assess the damage today on the qv website, as
well as rating valuations on the City Council's online property search.
This doesn't necessarily affect rates and market value in the
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same way. The sale price doesn't just plummet by the
same degree overnight, but clearly a buyer's market now in Wellington.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And how's the weather if you're buying fine light winds
twenty one central? How lovely? Meva Writtamandage joins me from
Auckland Heillo Greetings. Okay, we've been looking at the coffee
habits of people who work at CBD.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
That's right, Auckland CBD workers. Now, well this comes any
surprise to you, so JLL that's the leasing company. Chris
Dibble from there. He's looked at Google popularity data of
twenty two cafes in the city center discovered will this
come as a shock?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Thursday?
Speaker 13 (23:16):
Thursday is the most popular day for coffee overall. Now
this was followed closely by Wednesday and Friday, so that
leaves Monday and Tuesday usually quieter. So we can probably
tell you that the popularity of Thursday from eleven am
probably because people are going out for mid morning team
or client meetings. And then obviously in the week Monday Tuesday,
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where it's really quiet, people are probably working from home.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So the biggest story out of Auckland is coffee?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Correct?
Speaker 13 (23:43):
Can I just say that that's what we've been talking
about in the cart. Do you drink coffee?
Speaker 14 (23:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
How do you function it?
Speaker 13 (23:49):
Right?
Speaker 10 (23:50):
So?
Speaker 13 (23:50):
What is that? Is that from your Instah?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, I'm making instant commercial radio. I'm drink instant coffee.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Really.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
How's o weather? How's our weather?
Speaker 14 (24:00):
Fine?
Speaker 13 (24:00):
Cloud increasing from a late afternoon not a good day
to drink instant coffee.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
High of twenty five, seventeen to six, and we've got
Devin Gray here, will be looking at the situation in Sweden.
There's five people have been shot. We'll talk about that.
And the man who wants to run the length of
New Zealand and yes, I'm sorry, Tom Cruise was a scientologist,
not a Mormon.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Seventeen to six International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance,
Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well, this is dramatic. It is fifteen to six, and
we have a few communication difficulties with Gavin Gray and
the UK. But now can I say good morning.
Speaker 14 (24:35):
Gav, Good morning there Andrew.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Magnificent loving it. Five people shot at a school in
central Sweden.
Speaker 14 (24:42):
Yeah, and at the moment, we're still being told this
is a sort of active scene. It's at a small
town about two hundred kilometers west of the capitals dot Com.
It happened at lunchtime. Five people shot at an education
center and the police are telling people to stay away
until they believe the danger to be over. So at
(25:03):
the moment, all we understand is that all of those
who have been injured have been taken to hospital, four
have undergone operations for their injuries and one is critically injured. Normally,
Sweden is a pretty quiet and peaceful place, but a
massive gun crime like this well is certainly a shock.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Tell me about the Hardest Gezer. You gotta love this guy.
Speaker 14 (25:26):
So this guy is a British endurance walker marathon runner.
You might say, he ran successfully the entire length of
Africa and now he's going to run the entire length
of New Zealand. Russell Cook is his name. He's nicknamed
the Hardest Geezer and he completed that challenge through Africa
(25:46):
in April of last year, taking almost an entire year. Now,
the twenty seven year old from worthing Down on the
south coast of England is to run three thousand kilometers
that'll see him take on sixty ultramarathons while navigating mountains, forests,
coastline cities, you name it, he said, New Zealand this summer.
I've always wanted to go. It's the adventure capital of
(26:08):
the world. It's going to be brutal on my legs.
I've never done anything before. And well, he expects that
ninety four hundred and forty elevation part of the journey
to be the most challenging. Suffice to say, it isn't
all going to be hard work. During the challenge, he
wants to bungee jump off Auckland harbor Bridge Canyon, swing
in Queenston, and skydive in abel Tasman.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yes, I don't know if you realize it's just quite
hell hilly we are. But good luck to him. And
I noticed that you didn't actually have a crack at
the Maldi name for our trail. Do you want to
have a crek or not?
Speaker 10 (26:39):
Ha ha.
Speaker 14 (26:40):
I was worried you're going to ask that, Okay, taya rara.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
To aor Oh it's all right, mate, don't you worry
about a thing. Kevin Gray from the UK. It is
now twelve minutes to six. Okay, kanga AA has come
up with a new plan to help save the agency.
The Turnaroud plan will refocus on getting back to basics.
They will still build and manage social housing by selling
(27:05):
nine hundred homes a year that are no longer fit
for purpose and renewing older homes that needs And they
say the number of state homes will not change, but
then again, nor will they increase. And under the plan,
debt is forecast to be one point eight billion dollars
lower in twenty seven to twenty eight compared to the
twenty twenty three forecasts of a couple of years ago.
(27:26):
So Labor Housing spokesperson Karen mcinnaughty is with it now, hallikiereno.
Oh sorry I double clicked hallakieren good morning. So the
government and the chairman and the CEO says that the
refocus is necessary because the agency is in financial strife.
Do you agree and do you agree that something had
(27:47):
to change?
Speaker 10 (27:49):
No?
Speaker 15 (27:49):
I don't agree, And I'm quite perplexed that the minister
will stand up and celebrate this as a success when
the need for social houses continue to grow. Oh, the
housing crisis committed to get worse and his solution seems
to be not building houses.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But yes, the chairman and the CEO also said there
was financial strife and you can't build houses if you
don't have money.
Speaker 15 (28:13):
Well, actually the same bloke said in front of the
Select Committee of Parliament that any organization with their level
of assets would be quite comfortable.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
With the ratio of debt that they hold. The Chairman
and the CEO are doing what the government ask that's
what they do. The Minister has made it quite clear
heading into government that they believe that there is no
role for the government to build state houses. The problem
with that position, of course, is that if the government
is it involved in building state houses, they don't get
built and people don't get homes.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
True, but the Chairman also said the KOing Aura had
significant growth over the past five years. That's under your watch.
You delivered thirteen thousand homes, you refurbished three four hundred
of them. But that growth was unsustainable. So it's time
for a cup of tea.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
There was always changes under way at cling Oral. Let's
not forget it was a brand new organization when the
Labor government came in in twenty seventeen. The New Zealand
Housing corporation existed solely to sell state houses. Previous government
ended up with fifteen hundred fewer than what they started with.
And then you're right, we built pretty much fourteen thousand homes.
(29:25):
That is a massive amount of growth, and there was
always efficiencies happening along the way. But because that was
happening at such a fast pace, there's no excuse to
turn around and make a case that is unsustainable. If
you remember when the Prime Minister and the Minister stood
up and made this case at the podium in Parliament,
(29:47):
they talked about the death. They didn't once talk about
the value of the assets in the way that that
has grown, which has actually growing at a faster rate
than the debt. There's forty seven billion dollars worth of
assets crying or Aura's books. They don't talk about that
because when you compare the assets to the debt, it's
a completely different story.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
So if you were still in charge, you would be
facing the same books. You've already said that the pace
of building that happened under your charge previously was extraordinarily fast.
Would you have continued that fast pace and continued to
throw the agency into even more debt crisis?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Well, We've got to be careful with their wording here.
I've just to explained to you that there was no
debt crisis. There is a large amount of debt, but
there is also considerable amount of assets. This is a
jack up in my view. The report that established this
case was flawed, It contained factual errors and it just
coincidentally landed with the same recommendations. Then was exactly where
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the previous National government were. This was always going to happen.
What I'm concerned about is that they have walked away
from building houses to those people that need them. So
let's compare what was happening when there was up to
five thousand homes being built a year and now is
going to be no growth. Can you extrapolate this over
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the years. How many people are going to miss out
on a home. We've already seen homelessness grow. We've seen
stories of people living in cars and garages and tents
and on the street. It's only going to get worse.
That's the exact same situation that this country was left
in the last time the National Party were in government.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Kieren Mcinaty, thank you for your time, the Labor Housing spokesperson.
Your thoughts ninety two. Ninety two is my text number.
It is now seven minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Andrew Dickens on Nafili edition where one roof make your
Property search simple, youth dog Zibby.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yes, it's fine to six. So Careen mcinnaught has just
come onto the program and said, we've got we've got
heaps of assets. It's fine. So Craig picked what was
wrong with that? He says in his text, this guy
on the social housing you may have billions of dollars
of assets, but you have to be able to service
your debt. We are asset rich and cash poord. That's
what New Zealand is. And I think that's what the
(32:10):
chairman and the CEO were saying all the way along shore.
Yeah you could do it, care but could you actually
pay the debt? Mike Husking joins me, Now, hello, microphone,
please makeel.
Speaker 16 (32:22):
I'll turn that on. If they've got two hundred houses
at over a couple of million dollars, that's half a
billion dollars worth of assets they don't need to, you know.
And I thought the most interesting statistic was the bulk
of people in the current queue, which is about twenty
thousand want a one bedroom house. So why would you
put a single person in a three bedroom house in
(32:42):
rem you were worth two and a half million dollars.
But then's best sanity. You build these things though, and
then everyone goes, oh, there this high density. No family
wants to live in that, and everyone complains about either
one help you you don't you know, take it or
leave a Jenet Dixon, I whod you mentioned that earlier
on this morning. So she was always going to lose
because just because you don't like a rule doesn't mean
the body who made the rule and have the right
to make the rule. And that's the problem with courts.
Courts argue along the law, not whether you and I
(33:05):
think it's a sensible thing to do or not. So
we'll talk to her this morning. I feel very sorry.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Is she righteously angry?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Oh?
Speaker 16 (33:10):
As she should be, because it's unfortunate. But you know,
we we put up with each day. I don't I
don't know about you, but I do a whole lot
of rules around here that really to be frank, if
I around the world would be different. But you know
that's life, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
They don't come in and say you've got to pronounce
melody correctly, they don't come in and and there are rules.
Speaker 16 (33:27):
No, that's what you're doing. See what you're doing is
you and I agree because we're taking a sensible stance.
But in a court, that's not how it works. And
that's essentially why she lost.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Well, it was her practice, she had to make her
own rules. But years, that's the next that's.
Speaker 16 (33:41):
The next thing, because there's I always thought as a
real estate agent you were essentially self employed.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You are so therefore you make yourself attractive to your market.
So if you want to speak Chinese, speak Chinese, I
want to speak Mary.
Speaker 16 (33:54):
I think on the you know, the pub test, yes,
I don't think it. I don't think it passes. But
the court test and the pub test are two different.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Anyway, she's with us. I'd rather go to the pub.
Thank you very much, and I thank you. I won't
be here tomorrow, but I will be here on Friday.
Mike will be here on Friday as well, because we're
all about the productivity.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be very good and very warm morning to you.
I'm Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge. Welcome to your Wednesday.
Coming up over the next hour, unemployment is about to
hit a four year high, So who's getting hit the hardest.
We'll have that story for you in five minutes time.
It's white tonguey day Eve. Is that a word? Is
that a thing? White tonguey day Eve? It's white tonguey
(00:33):
day Eve. What is happening up north? Our reporter Sophie
Trigger reports on the celebrations so far and what might
happen tomorrow. And it's time to tie home on kang
Order as the Housing agency gets into financial strife. So
what does Kieren mcinnaughty make of the government's plans. He's
just before six o'clock this morning. We'll have correspondence from
right around the world and New Zealand news as it breaks,
(00:56):
and you can contribute by texting ninety two ninety two
or small charge applies, or email Amy Dickens at Newstalk
ZEBB dot co dot nz. It's seven after five.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The agenda, Well, it's when's the.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Fifth of February. Why Tony Day Eve To Sweden, at
least five people have been shot at a school for
adults in that country. Four of them have undergone surgery
in hospital. One is critically injured. Police say one of
the people in hospital is thought to be the perpetrator.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
One of the teachers who was in her study. She
has been quoted saying that she heard about ten sholtz,
so five shorts and then a pause, and then five
more shorts. And Swedish police and Swedish media are saying
that this is a very serious situation.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Two the trade wars, and China has hit back at
the United States as Donald Trump's ten percent tariffs on
all exports kick in today. Beijing has introduced a number
of fifteen percent tariffs and ten percent tariffs on all
sorts of things like imported coal, gas, and vehicles and machinery,
and the country's anti monopoly watchdog has launched an investigation
into Google.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
They've got a wider set of tools available for retaliation,
and they seem to believe that they're going to be
able to respond quickly, and that China has the ability
to endure more pain as well. And so China is
quite serious in this as both China and the US
pasture themselves for what are going to be very serious negotiations.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And Donald Trump has scheduled a phone call with Chinese
leader Jijimping and he's going to do that later this week.
And that's not the only key meeting for Trump. He's
expected to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today.
This comes at a crucial time during the seas fire
deal between Israel and Hamas.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
It's critical in terms of discussion in Gaza, in terms
of the hostage, in terms of the public opinions in
favor of the ostygen and in terms of the political
concerning is well, and in terms of the bigger picture
in the Middle East concerning the Trump's vision.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And back home. Real estate agent Janet Dixon has been
left with her thirty year career in limbo at Dixon's
real estate license was put on the line. That was
because she refused to take a compulsory Tikanga Maori course. Yesterday,
the High Court ruled the real estate agent's authority were
well within their rights to make it compulsory and Janet
(03:14):
Dixon is on the radio with Mike Hosking just after
seven o'clock this morning, It's ten after five The.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
News you Need this Morning and the in Depth Analysis
Early Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your
Property Search Simple, News Talk Zippy.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So it's back. The White Tonguy Amateur Dramatics Association is
presenting their twenty twenty five production of White Tonguey, The
Fury and the Flounds. It's the one hundred and eighty
fifth anniversary edition. This year promised us even more of
the highlights we've come to expect, hot air, overacting, the
odd scuffle, a nation load of posturing and of course
the ever popular flounce by the Prime Minister. This year.
(03:52):
You know, every year it's the same. We get a
new batch of politicians at a new batch of ewe
and yet somehow nothing changes. Someone's going to get excited,
someone's going to yell far too close to someone else's face.
Some mud or some underpants or maybe another sex toy
might be lobbed unconvincingly and with poor Amatt's somebody Maori
will carry their flags from to Tea over the bridge
(04:14):
and up to the treaty grounds, and they may even
chant a little unless it's too hot. Meanwhile, kids will
be doing Manu's in the background off the bridge. Then
people will phone talk back and say it's a disgrace
and it's not my national day and never will be.
And you know they've never been there and never will
and therefore they will never really know. The whole thing
is a fast, a gentle face, the same script every year.
(04:36):
It's not really a hotbed of controversy, no matter how
the media chooses to report it. The players will over
remote because they know a camera is near. You know,
I never believed Helen Clark's tears because she couldn't speak,
because she's a tougher old bird than that. The meeting
of the clans, both Maori and Crown, is always full
of civility, really and old fashioned speechification, but nothing rarely
(04:59):
gets discussed White Tonguey on its day. Everybody is too
busy socializing and posturing and wearing too many clothes and
the sweltering heat, and we all know the real corddo
happens elsewhere, and the real stuff happens in private. White
Tonguey Day is for show. And if you actually go,
you'll see it is a good show, full of emotions
of a nation and some amazing tableaus. We saw one yesterday,
(05:21):
the arrival of the Maori Queen. We'll see the dawn.
We'll see the images of armed forces by the flag staff,
the navy and the harbor, the workers paddling their way
across the Russell Foreshore, and we'll see Maori har rump
thing outside a meeting house. And you know, I think
it's a good show because it's.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Our show, Andrew Dickens.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So I've got some proof here that Wellington's doing it tough.
The Wellington City Rtable valuations have come out and on
average house values have plummeted twenty four point four percent
since twenty twenty one. It's a quarter capital values have
fallen across every suburb, some at twelve point one percent,
some at twenty nine point three percent. It's a heartbreak
for a house owner. The average house value is now
(06:04):
sitting at just over one million. QV says it's because
of the economic headwinds that have been buffeting the city
and with such a big drop in values, Wellingtonians will
be happy or will be hoping for a silver lining.
They'll be hoping for a decrease in rates, but dream on.
The values only determine the percentage of the rate bill
that the property owner needs to pay, so it will
make little difference. It's still going to get stung. In fact,
(06:27):
some of the suburbs that have not fallen as much
or see a rate rise. Merry Christmas, So to lose
lose for Wellington this morning, I'm sorry, hold on, hang
in there. Meanwhile, Auckland valuations will not be released until
sometime in May at the earliest, after being delayed. They're
expected to show little movement from the last valuations in
twenty twenty one. So it's five thirteen and we'll talk
(06:49):
unemployment in a few moments time. We've got the senior
economists from the ASB with us. The data comes out
today and we're expecting it to head a four year high.
I'm talking about the number five. That's next. News Talks ab.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and one Room Make Your Property Search Simple. News Talks
a B.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Five sixteen on a Wednesday, and unemployment is expected to
hit a four year high for the end of last year.
This morning will be the last major data release before
the OCR decision that's coming out on February the nineteenth.
The Reserve Bank is forecasting the unemployment rate to rise
from four point eight percent to five point one percent.
(07:33):
So I'm joined now by senior economists at the ASB
Marx Smith. Goodbrding to you, Mark, good morning. Do you
reckon it's a five in?
Speaker 6 (07:39):
It could well be. There is a lot of variability
in the numbers, obviously, but what we do know is
that the economy has gone through a concerted downturn and
the labor market tempts to follow.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Is this just because of the public sector carts or
is this happening across the board?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Yeah, it's a lot more broad based than that. But
obviously Willington will be a you've been feeling the pain,
but there are other regions and other groups as well
that will be also feeling the front of this.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay, So who's hit hardest, who's not getting the jobs?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
When you look at the unemployment rates, really the pickups
that have been very sizeable for the younger age groups
that the young cohorts. So essentially what happens is really
the last ones into the labor market typically the first
ones out. So really those groups, and you're looking at
some effort groups, particularly Pacific Islands and audi as well,
they really start to feel the bunt from this downtown.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
What could this do to wage pressure?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
What we have been seeing is that wage pressures have
been really calling the economy. To give me an idea
of what's been happening, the economy is likely to loser
net thirty thousand jobs over last year. So as the
economy is slowed, the demand of labor is called, and
lobor demand of labor typically means much core will increase
some wages, and that combined with lower inflation, we'll see
(08:56):
those increases in wages really shrink from the higher by
six percent to probably under three percent by the end
of the year, and a lot that really means prescius
is on inflation. They're likely to call and I'll be
encouraging from an inflation point of view.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I mean, if you're waking up and well into this
morning and I've just told you about your your rateable
values falling by a quarter, and now you're hearing that
unemployment's bad in that area, tell me, is there any
region that is actually getting good news?
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Probably?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Typically though I think really what we're seeing is a
pronounced downturn throughout the economy, but there are some bright
spots within that. There are some areas tipping in provincial
areas where where commodity prices have been strong, produced for
terms have been good. But as I said, there are
some reasons such as Willington, for example, where the downtown
(09:44):
has really been the most acut Well.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
All remark, I think you for your time today, senior
economists at the ASB Marksmith those figures out later today
it is five eighteen. You can text on ninety two
ninety two. Someone says you're right, White Tonguey Day is
pure BS. Something for the media. Really, Now we just
go up there and have a look. Really, the real people,
the decent people, ignore it and get on with your lives.
Oh I take it from that you're not taking the holiday.
Then you'll keep working worrying about the productivity. Now you
(10:09):
can keep on texting me ninety two ninety two, but
next we will go to White Tonguey. Sophie Trigger is
our reporter and she's standing by. It is five nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Earlier this year
with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your property search
simple if you talk.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Said the.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Grunts just texted me and said no holiday on the
farm here and I will not be watching that show either.
Thank you for your text. Christopher Luxan going to Akaroa.
Some people say that's a snub against Maldi. I think
it's a bit broader than that. More on that in
just a few moments time. But of course the white
tonguey commemorations have started. Remember it's a week long thing.
It's not just one day. They've already started that doing it. Politicians, ee,
(10:52):
leaders and far no that there already. They've been arriving
ahead of the big day on Thursday tomorrow, news talks
here be. Political reporter Sophie Trigger has made the trip
up north and joins me.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
Now, Hello Sophie, Good morning Andrew. How are you good?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
First time or what second time?
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Actually, Andrew, I was up here last year as well.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I was watching the Telly last night. I have to
say the arrival of the Maori Queen was quite some pedgeant.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Yeah, hundreds turned out to watch Andrew and the porpity.
Yesterday welcomed the king Etang king e tongue, including the
new monarch naw Way honod It's A paul It was
her first white tonguey as the Mahdi Queen after the
passing of her father, King tu Hatia last year. And
also in the contingent was to Patimari, which arrived as
(11:37):
part of the King E Tangua porphyy this year as
it did last year, really consolidating that public relationship between
to Patimari and the King Etangua ahead of the rest
of the politicians arriving on the treaty grounds later this morning. Yesterday,
we also had a number of other groups welcomed in
a separate porpity in the morning, which included the White
(11:58):
Tongue Tribunal, local Government New Zealand, the judiciary, and the
Diplomatic Corps, the head of which is Mexican Ambassador Alfredo
Perez Bravo, who you may have seen in the news
a bit over the past week.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, he met with Winston Peters. They had lunch. Now
I'm sure they got on because you can't have lunch
with Winston Peters to not have a good time.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Well, a meeting took place yesterday, that's correct, between Winston
Peters and the Mexican ambassador. So this follows, of course,
comments made in the House last week by Peter's own colleague,
Minister Shane Jones, who called out send the Mexicans home,
directed towards Green MP's and it was described as xenophobic
(12:40):
and racist by the Green Party. So after this comment,
the Mexican Embassy confirmed it was following up on the
matter through diplomatic channels. Now, Alfredo Prez Bravo, as the
dean of the Diplomatic Corps, was part of this contingent
welcomed onto the grounds yesterday and we spoke to the
ambassador after the porpity and he confirmed he was meeting
(13:01):
with Peter soon, but wouldn't really comment further on the
matter at all. He didn't say whether he would raise
the issue with Peters, but said that the interaction would
be friendly. So we don't yet know what exactly took
place in the meeting, but as you say, Peters has
shared a picture of the two of them yesterday, so
we'll have to wait to speak to him to find
(13:23):
out sort of what happens, if there were apologies offered,
if there was any sort of resolution to that.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So I called this day White Tongy Eve as the
day before.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
What's happening today, Yeah, so this morning we will have
all parties, that's except for Tapatimari, which arrived yesterday welcomed
onto the treaty grounds. Last year we had a separate
poor forty for government and opposition, but today they will
all be arriving side by side. Of course, a notable
absence is the Prime Minister Chris Luxon. He'll be in
(13:53):
the South Island ahead of spending White Tangi in Akaroa,
but will no doubt hear from him at some point
today as well. And considering the Treaty Principles Bill is
such a live issue oral submissions beginning at Select Committee
last week, it is expected to result in some heated
cotit or tomorrow in today sorry, in the speeches from
(14:15):
both sides. It's also brought large numbers of people to
Wheitangi again this year. White Tangi leader's estimate it could
be the same size or even bigger than last year.
And I've spoken to token some people who were attending
White Tangi for the first time for the reason of
protecting tatidity. So today is going to bring actually to
David Seymour face to face with some of these critics
(14:38):
for the first time this year, considering it wasn't at
the last. And there are a couple of weeks ago
another forum in which the government can hear from MARDI
and EWE leaders on these issues. We are also expecting
the arrival of a toy to tatidity protest on the
Treaty grounds, so thousands are expected to be part of that.
And that's the group behind last year's massive hikois to
(15:01):
Parliament in no Zemba.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Very good, Sophie, enjoy the day and I thank you.
It is five twenty five the early.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio. How it by News.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Talks It be new Talk Shibby. It is five twenty seven.
So it is the week of White Tonguey and this
week it's been the perennial should he or shouldn't he
go debate about the Prime Minister. Now, personally, I've always
said this, I'd always go to White Tonguey if I
were the PM, even if it was just for one
of the days of the ceremonies. I mean, the air
force is not the strongest, but the air Force is
(15:33):
perfectly capable of getting him to both white tonguey and
akoror if he really wanted to. And it's said that
his non attendance is a snub of MILDI, but I
think there's another way of looking at it. He could
be staying away because he doesn't want to ruffle Maldi feathers.
He has publicly said repeatedly that the treaty principal's actor
is going nowhere, So why go somewhere where he'll get
the heat for something he's never intended to do. David
(15:55):
Seymour can go and he is. It's David's baby, and
he's more than happy to stand it. He'll take the
heat and he'll give it back. But our Prime Minister
doesn't want to go somewhere where he'll be yelled at
for something he will not do. So maybe this isn't
a snub of Mari as such, but perhaps one of
his right wing supporters and don't suit the messenger. I've
been looking at right wing discussion groups and check groups.
(16:16):
They are getting increasingly vocal that they've been sold a
damp squib, that the Prime Minister is no different to
the other mob, that he's a liberal and he's a
globalist and a mari apologist and worst of all, a
man without a plan. His weekly media around is becoming
increasingly fractious, all sides demanding that he actually do something
more than cutting all the spending. Just take a listen
to the Mike Hosking podcast from yesterday and see if
(16:39):
he answers stuff. Questions about policy is being answered repeatedly
with we're looking at that down the track, which is
this year's version of working groups and announcements of announcements.
So anyway, hopefully Christopher Luxon has a pleasant time at
Akaroa Harbor because that's the way he likes it. He
likes a nice, quiet, deferential crowd who loves the Prime
minister because he's just the Prime Minister. So it's five
(17:01):
twenty nine. We're going to talk or Aura over the
next half hour with kra Mconnulty. They're in financial strife.
They need to have a cup of tea. More on this.
Just before six, we're off to the UK with our
international correspondent said, we'll have correspondents from right around New Zealand.
My name is Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge. Good
morning to.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
You, benet to the.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
News and Views You Trust to start your day in
early edition with Andrew Dickens and One roof Make your
Property search Simple. You talk sidy.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Because I told Joby good morning to you. I'm Andrew Dickens.
It's Wednesday. Tomorrow is a holiday. It's our national day.
But some people don't say that.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Look, there's a British bloke who ran the entire length
of Africa. He's announced his next challenge. He wants to
come to New Zealand and run the full length of
this country. His nickname is the Hardest Geezer. His real
name is Russ Cook. We'll talk about him with Gavin
Gray in a few moments time. So if you're traveling
an Orclands on the motorway, you might have noticed a
giant white building rising beside the motorway at Manco City.
(18:25):
It's enormous. It's monolithic, it's gleaming white. It's got this
huge soaring spy. It's huge. It's so big. When I
saw it, I thought that looks like the Battersea Power
Station after a makeover. So this thing is the new
Temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
Otherwise known as the Mormons, and it's very imposing indeed,
and if you've been curious as to what might be inside,
well they're having an open month from the twenty seventh
(18:48):
of February into the twenty second of March. You can
go visit the church during the day. You can't go
on Sundays. And there's this church has that epic European
church feel to it, like tourists might want to go,
and I'm sure that there'll be met people wanting to
visit just to see if the inside matches the out
and whether they could be tom cruise. Meanwhile, kang or Aura,
this is a big story. It's getting a budgetary haircut.
(19:11):
Both the chairmen and the CEO and the government said
yesterday the agency is in financial strife. So it's a
back to basics approach with plans cut and a focus
of managing the properties and the tenants. So why is
ko and strife, Well, it went too hard. They saw
significant growth over the past five years, delivering thirteen thousand
new homes and refurbishing three thousand, four hundred because the
(19:31):
last government believed we didn't have enough houses so much
so they started getting into schemes and the whole keyw
we build Fiesco and there were building state houses. They
allowed construction costs to climb markedly against market rates while
all the time building like billy.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And so the whole thing was, according to the chairman
and the CEO and the government, unsustainable. So it's time
for a cup of tea. And you have to wonder
if they were still in charge with the label we'll
be doing the same thing now. We'll find that out
with Kieren McNulty who's about ten minutes away. It is
twenty one.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
To six Andrew Dickens.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So around the country we go. Callum Proctor joins us
from Dunedin. Good morning to you. Callum No, Kellum, there's
Callum here.
Speaker 11 (20:14):
You got me there?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Good morning yeah, well a lovely voice. You should be
in radio. The return of the world's Fastest Indian, the
Bert Monroe Challenge is back.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
It is back for its eighteenth year, with events kicking
off today running through to Sunday. Look, this is huge,
attracts thousands of motorcycle enthusiasts to in for cargol both
riders and spectators. It said to be the largest motorcycle
rally in the Southern Hemisphere. In fact, one of the
more popular events is the beach racing. It's Friday afternoon
at Oriti Beach that draws a big crowd given that
(20:45):
you can't normally race there, and is also the racing
at Taratong all weekend South and Police Andrews say they'll
be highly visible over coming days to deal with the
influx of visitors. And how's the weather good friend for
cargol fine twenty four Dunedin's fine and twenty two today
great stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
We're going to crash now, Thomas Race. Good morning here morning.
Tell me about christ Church's quality of life?
Speaker 10 (21:06):
Yes, so, Christchurchers has done their latest quality of life survey.
Eighty percent of residents are enjoying their life in the
Gardens city and that's pretty in line with the previous
year's results. The amount of people who believe their equality
life has improved in the last year has increased seven
percent and that's up to slightly more than a quarter
of residents. But those feeling a sense of community in
the neighborhood though, has dipped to forty percent and that's
(21:29):
just below the national average. And the confidence in the
city Council remains low. Only thirty eight percent, having believing
it makes decisions in christ Church's best interests.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How's the weather not too bad?
Speaker 10 (21:40):
Bit of cloud clearing and becoming fined in the morning,
but that will return later tonight. Northeasterlies easing in the evening,
high of twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Good stuff, that's a positive and the quality of life
Max told joins us from Wellington. Hello Max, good morning.
I'm sorry your house prices have plummeted.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
Well I don't own a home, so it's not too
bad for me. Just massive, massive drops though in value
across the region. This is the front page of the
Herald this morning as well. We were so high in
twenty twenty one at the peak for sellers. You might
say that a drop probably felt inevitable at the next
count but this is still just really bad news for
homeowners in Wellington. Obviously, the city's economic struggles have been noted.
(22:19):
What you're looking at is values falling in every single
suburb from between twelve to thirty percent, the overall average
decline twenty one percent. Owners are going to be able
to assess the damage today on the qv website, as
well as rating valuations on the City Council's online property search.
This doesn't necessarily affect rates and market value in the
(22:40):
same way. The sale price doesn't just plummet by the
same degree overnight, but clearly a buyer's market now in Wellington.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And how's the weather if you're buying fine light winds
twenty one central? How lovely? Meva Writtamandage joins me from
Auckland Heillo Greetings. Okay, we've been looking at the coffee
habits of people who work at CBD.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
That's right, Auckland CBD workers. Now, well this comes any
surprise to you, so JLL that's the leasing company. Chris
Dibble from there. He's looked at Google popularity data of
twenty two cafes in the city center discovered will this
come as a shock?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Thursday?
Speaker 13 (23:16):
Thursday is the most popular day for coffee overall. Now
this was followed closely by Wednesday and Friday, so that
leaves Monday and Tuesday usually quieter. So we can probably
tell you that the popularity of Thursday from eleven am
probably because people are going out for mid morning team
or client meetings. And then obviously in the week Monday Tuesday,
(23:37):
where it's really quiet, people are probably working from home.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So the biggest story out of Auckland is coffee?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Correct?
Speaker 13 (23:43):
Can I just say that that's what we've been talking
about in the cart. Do you drink coffee?
Speaker 14 (23:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
How do you function it?
Speaker 13 (23:49):
Right?
Speaker 10 (23:50):
So?
Speaker 13 (23:50):
What is that? Is that from your Instah?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, I'm making instant commercial radio. I'm drink instant coffee.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Really.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
How's o weather? How's our weather?
Speaker 14 (24:00):
Fine?
Speaker 13 (24:00):
Cloud increasing from a late afternoon not a good day
to drink instant coffee.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
High of twenty five, seventeen to six, and we've got
Devin Gray here, will be looking at the situation in Sweden.
There's five people have been shot. We'll talk about that.
And the man who wants to run the length of
New Zealand and yes, I'm sorry, Tom Cruise was a scientologist,
not a Mormon.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
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Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well, this is dramatic. It is fifteen to six, and
we have a few communication difficulties with Gavin Gray and
the UK. But now can I say good morning.
Speaker 14 (24:35):
Gav, Good morning there Andrew.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Magnificent loving it. Five people shot at a school in
central Sweden.
Speaker 14 (24:42):
Yeah, and at the moment, we're still being told this
is a sort of active scene. It's at a small
town about two hundred kilometers west of the capitals dot Com.
It happened at lunchtime. Five people shot at an education
center and the police are telling people to stay away
until they believe the danger to be over. So at
(25:03):
the moment, all we understand is that all of those
who have been injured have been taken to hospital, four
have undergone operations for their injuries and one is critically injured. Normally,
Sweden is a pretty quiet and peaceful place, but a
massive gun crime like this well is certainly a shock.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Tell me about the Hardest Gezer. You gotta love this guy.
Speaker 14 (25:26):
So this guy is a British endurance walker marathon runner.
You might say, he ran successfully the entire length of
Africa and now he's going to run the entire length
of New Zealand. Russell Cook is his name. He's nicknamed
the Hardest Geezer and he completed that challenge through Africa
(25:46):
in April of last year, taking almost an entire year. Now,
the twenty seven year old from worthing Down on the
south coast of England is to run three thousand kilometers
that'll see him take on sixty ultramarathons while navigating mountains, forests,
coastline cities, you name it, he said, New Zealand this summer.
I've always wanted to go. It's the adventure capital of
(26:08):
the world. It's going to be brutal on my legs.
I've never done anything before. And well, he expects that
ninety four hundred and forty elevation part of the journey
to be the most challenging. Suffice to say, it isn't
all going to be hard work. During the challenge, he
wants to bungee jump off Auckland harbor Bridge Canyon, swing
in Queenston, and skydive in abel Tasman.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yes, I don't know if you realize it's just quite
hell hilly we are. But good luck to him. And
I noticed that you didn't actually have a crack at
the Maldi name for our trail. Do you want to
have a crek or not?
Speaker 10 (26:39):
Ha ha.
Speaker 14 (26:40):
I was worried you're going to ask that, Okay, taya rara.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
To aor Oh it's all right, mate, don't you worry
about a thing. Kevin Gray from the UK. It is
now twelve minutes to six. Okay, kanga AA has come
up with a new plan to help save the agency.
The Turnaroud plan will refocus on getting back to basics.
They will still build and manage social housing by selling
(27:05):
nine hundred homes a year that are no longer fit
for purpose and renewing older homes that needs And they
say the number of state homes will not change, but
then again, nor will they increase. And under the plan,
debt is forecast to be one point eight billion dollars
lower in twenty seven to twenty eight compared to the
twenty twenty three forecasts of a couple of years ago.
(27:26):
So Labor Housing spokesperson Karen mcinnaughty is with it now, hallikiereno.
Oh sorry I double clicked hallakieren good morning. So the
government and the chairman and the CEO says that the
refocus is necessary because the agency is in financial strife.
Do you agree and do you agree that something had
(27:47):
to change?
Speaker 10 (27:49):
No?
Speaker 15 (27:49):
I don't agree, And I'm quite perplexed that the minister
will stand up and celebrate this as a success when
the need for social houses continue to grow. Oh, the
housing crisis committed to get worse and his solution seems
to be not building houses.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But yes, the chairman and the CEO also said there
was financial strife and you can't build houses if you
don't have money.
Speaker 15 (28:13):
Well, actually the same bloke said in front of the
Select Committee of Parliament that any organization with their level
of assets would be quite comfortable.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
With the ratio of debt that they hold. The Chairman
and the CEO are doing what the government ask that's
what they do. The Minister has made it quite clear
heading into government that they believe that there is no
role for the government to build state houses. The problem
with that position, of course, is that if the government
is it involved in building state houses, they don't get
built and people don't get homes.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
True, but the Chairman also said the KOing Aura had
significant growth over the past five years. That's under your watch.
You delivered thirteen thousand homes, you refurbished three four hundred
of them. But that growth was unsustainable. So it's time
for a cup of tea.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
There was always changes under way at cling Oral. Let's
not forget it was a brand new organization when the
Labor government came in in twenty seventeen. The New Zealand
Housing corporation existed solely to sell state houses. Previous government
ended up with fifteen hundred fewer than what they started with.
And then you're right, we built pretty much fourteen thousand homes.
(29:25):
That is a massive amount of growth, and there was
always efficiencies happening along the way. But because that was
happening at such a fast pace, there's no excuse to
turn around and make a case that is unsustainable. If
you remember when the Prime Minister and the Minister stood
up and made this case at the podium in Parliament,
(29:47):
they talked about the death. They didn't once talk about
the value of the assets in the way that that
has grown, which has actually growing at a faster rate
than the debt. There's forty seven billion dollars worth of
assets crying or Aura's books. They don't talk about that
because when you compare the assets to the debt, it's
a completely different story.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
So if you were still in charge, you would be
facing the same books. You've already said that the pace
of building that happened under your charge previously was extraordinarily fast.
Would you have continued that fast pace and continued to
throw the agency into even more debt crisis?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Well, We've got to be careful with their wording here.
I've just to explained to you that there was no
debt crisis. There is a large amount of debt, but
there is also considerable amount of assets. This is a
jack up in my view. The report that established this
case was flawed, It contained factual errors and it just
coincidentally landed with the same recommendations. Then was exactly where
(30:49):
the previous National government were. This was always going to happen.
What I'm concerned about is that they have walked away
from building houses to those people that need them. So
let's compare what was happening when there was up to
five thousand homes being built a year and now is
going to be no growth. Can you extrapolate this over
(31:12):
the years. How many people are going to miss out
on a home. We've already seen homelessness grow. We've seen
stories of people living in cars and garages and tents
and on the street. It's only going to get worse.
That's the exact same situation that this country was left
in the last time the National Party were in government.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Kieren Mcinaty, thank you for your time, the Labor Housing spokesperson.
Your thoughts ninety two. Ninety two is my text number.
It is now seven minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
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Property search simple, youth dog Zibby.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yes, it's fine to six. So Careen mcinnaught has just
come onto the program and said, we've got we've got
heaps of assets. It's fine. So Craig picked what was
wrong with that? He says in his text, this guy
on the social housing you may have billions of dollars
of assets, but you have to be able to service
your debt. We are asset rich and cash poord. That's
what New Zealand is. And I think that's what the
(32:10):
chairman and the CEO were saying all the way along shore.
Yeah you could do it, care but could you actually
pay the debt? Mike Husking joins me, Now, hello, microphone,
please makeel.
Speaker 16 (32:22):
I'll turn that on. If they've got two hundred houses
at over a couple of million dollars, that's half a
billion dollars worth of assets they don't need to, you know.
And I thought the most interesting statistic was the bulk
of people in the current queue, which is about twenty
thousand want a one bedroom house. So why would you
put a single person in a three bedroom house in
(32:42):
rem you were worth two and a half million dollars.
But then's best sanity. You build these things though, and
then everyone goes, oh, there this high density. No family
wants to live in that, and everyone complains about either
one help you you don't you know, take it or
leave a Jenet Dixon, I whod you mentioned that earlier
on this morning. So she was always going to lose
because just because you don't like a rule doesn't mean
the body who made the rule and have the right
to make the rule. And that's the problem with courts.
Courts argue along the law, not whether you and I
(33:05):
think it's a sensible thing to do or not. So
we'll talk to her this morning. I feel very sorry.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Is she righteously angry?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Oh?
Speaker 16 (33:10):
As she should be, because it's unfortunate. But you know,
we we put up with each day. I don't I
don't know about you, but I do a whole lot
of rules around here that really to be frank, if
I around the world would be different. But you know
that's life, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
They don't come in and say you've got to pronounce
melody correctly, they don't come in and and there are rules.
Speaker 16 (33:27):
No, that's what you're doing. See what you're doing is
you and I agree because we're taking a sensible stance.
But in a court, that's not how it works. And
that's essentially why she lost.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Well, it was her practice, she had to make her
own rules. But years, that's the next that's.
Speaker 16 (33:41):
The next thing, because there's I always thought as a
real estate agent you were essentially self employed.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You are so therefore you make yourself attractive to your market.
So if you want to speak Chinese, speak Chinese, I
want to speak Mary.
Speaker 16 (33:54):
I think on the you know, the pub test, yes,
I don't think it. I don't think it passes. But
the court test and the pub test are two different.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Anyway, she's with us. I'd rather go to the pub.
Thank you very much, and I thank you. I won't
be here tomorrow, but I will be here on Friday.
Mike will be here on Friday as well, because we're
all about the productivity.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
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