March 4, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Wednesday 5th of March 2025, Donald Trump has paused all military aid into Ukraine, Marco Rubio's Former Chief of Staff tells Andrew Dickens what he thinks will happen next.
New documents reveal $300 million was set aside by the Government to cover it's broken ferry build contract with Hyundai.
Could congestion charges come in sooner than expected? National Road Carriers Association CEO Just Tighe Umbers shares his thoughts.
UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey shares the latest on US vice-president JD Vance sparking a row with comments he made about the potential involvement of international forces to police a peace deal in Ukraine.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues these aviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It's combody to you. Welcome into the program. I'm Andrew
Dickens broto In the next hour, it's getting to squeaky
bum time in the ferry debate. So what we're breaking
our deal with Hyundai really cost us. We'll have that
story for you in five. Wayne Brown, the Aukha mayor
wants congestion charges. How do rogue carriers feel about that?
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We'll have that story in ten. How do you feel
about that? You could text me ninety two ninety two
the guy who played Dirty fay Ed and the Crown
is being spoken to by police after comments about Palestine.
Gavin Gray from the UK on that and the big
world story, Trump pulls all defense aid from Hukraine. We're
going to be talking to Marco Rubio's former campaign manager
just before six. We'll have correspondence from around the world
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and around New Zealand and news as it break. And
of course you can text anytime you're like ninety two
ninety two is the number of small charge applies, or
you can email me Dickens at news talk setb dot
co dot nz. It's seven up to five the agenda
and it's Wednesday, the fifth of March, and the trade
war continues. China and Canada have hit back as Donald
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Trump's twenty five percent tariffs on imports from Canada and
a ten percent levy against China begins today, and China
has vowed to fight the US to the bitter end,
announcing up to fifteen percent tariffs on a range of
American products, and Canada has outlined twenty five percent tariffs
against billions of dollars of US goods. Mexico also will
(01:40):
join the fray. They will now have twenty five percent
tariffs from today. Mexico President Claudia Sinbaum Pado says she
will announce Mexico's retaliatory tariffs on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's going to be very costly for people to take
advantage of this country. They can't come in and steal
our money and steal our jobs, and take our factories
and take our businesses and expect not to be punished.
And they're being punished by tariffs. It's a very powerful
weapon that politicians haven't used because they were either dishonest, stupid,
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or paid off in some other forum.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And now we're using a yes you are. And the
Dale Jones fell seven hundred and sixty points over night
while you were sleeping. It also fell six hundred and
fifty points on Monday. This will have a big impact.
And those aren't the only countries, by the way, annoyed
with the United States, of course, Ukraine's Prime minister says
his country is firmly determined to continue cooperating with Washington.
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This is after President Trump paused or military aid. Denis Shimhal,
who we don't hear from very often, the prime minister says,
Kiev is ready to sign a deal. They will give
the United States access to the Ukraine's deposits of rare
earth minerals. We're in contact every day with the US
administration and Congress, and this conversation will continue and I'm
sure we will achieve peace in Ukraine. Meanwhile, EU Chief
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Urshula vonder Layan says Europe is in an era of
rearmament and is ready to step up on defence.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
And Europe is ready to massively boost its defense spending,
both to respond to the short term urgency to act
and to support Ukraine, but also to address the long
term need to take on more responsibility for our own
European security.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And finally from home some news from home. Parliament yesterday
in the House debated Andrew Bailey's resignation and the government
under fire by labor for covering up the incident. And
he's a response by National Bay of Plenty MP Tom Rutherford.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
A fighter the how many chances was she given? How
long did that investigation take? Michael Wood? How many opportunities
was he given from the Cabinet Office to get rid
of his shares? Seventeen times?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Kitty Allen in a.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Diabolical situation, there go rab Shama, who remembers Dr Goraz
the Shama drama. So I would say the Member's officer,
do not throw stones if you are in glasshouses.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Oh, happy days and great memories. It's now ten minutes
after five.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Andrew Dickens on an early edition with one roof to
make your property surge, simple youth dog Zibby So.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
A week on from his waffle fest on the Mike
Hosking Breakfast, the Prime Minister has returned from Vietnam with
a bit of conservative fire in his belly and yesterday
on Mike's show, his comment on free school lunches was
pretty punchy. He said, basically, if you don't like it,
make a mar mite sandwich and an apple and put
it in a box. It's what previous generations did. And
he's right. I growing up had one honey sandwich and
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one jam sandwich and an apple cut in half every
day for thirteen years, one half of the apple for
morning tea, the other half for afternoon playtime. I appear
to survive, and I got an education on the subject
of free school lunches, so it must be on its
last legs. So the funding for this thing partly came
from the COVID Emergency Fund, and by partly I say
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half a billion dollars worth. So the money obviously has
a limited timeframe because I don't know if you've noticed
there's no more COVID. Well, if there is, we don't
worry about it. And even if it was slightly successful,
the future is pre curious because we don't have the
money and there is a problem with the entire framework
of our social spending that you can see in the
free lunches. So Labour believed in generality that means if
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one person got it, everybody got it. And it's in
most of our policy framework to be fair. So if
one kid was starving in school, then all kids at
that school should get a meal. Or if you're sixty
five and unable to make ends meet with no employment,
you get a pension, but then everyone gets that pension,
whether you need it or not. That's generality. The opposite
ideology is social investment, and that is the corterstone of
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former National leader Bill English's positions. With social investment, you
identify the people with need and only help them. It's
called an investment because it should lift the poor up
and make the more productive in our economy. Bill ran
on that platform in the election that he eventually lost
to Jacinda Adurance, so he never did it. The New
National has talked about it from time to time, but
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they've never done it. And I was just thinking it
might help them if maybe they gave Vilingas a call
and maybe got his notes from last time and got
him to help them actually make something happen. Andrew Dickens,
here's a name you don't know but you should. His
name is James Harrison Jim. He's an Australian known as
the man with the Golden Arm because he has saved
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so many babies with his blood donation. Well, he's died
aged eighty eight, so in his lifetime, Jim rolled up
and sieved more than eleven hundred times to give plasma,
which was then used in two point four million doses
of a medication to save at risk newborn babies. Jim's
blood was special because it contained a rare and precious
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antibody essential to make anti D injections. Now, ANTID injections
control a disease that occurs when blood types of a
mother and the baby are incompatible that can result a miscarriage,
still worth in other conflications, So Jim's blood made the
anti D and it saved babies lives. Jim first donated
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blood in nineteen fifty four. He apparently never missed a
fortnightly appointment. He was still giving blood in his eighties.
He was inspired because he underwent lung surgery as a
fourteen year old and got many blood transfusions. So he said, right,
I'm going to do the whole thing. Another reason I'm
telling you this story is because Jim Harrison's a great man,
the man with the Golden arm and that he's died
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and that is very sad. But he donated blood and
maybe you should be donating blood as well, because you
never know yours might be as special as James Harrison's
Andrew Dickens. Whenstym Peters is talking to Mike Hosting later
today around about seven thirty five, all are about the fairies.
So we've found out just how much is going to
cost to break the contract. So could it cost more?
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We're going to talk in a few moments time to
the Rail of Maritime Transport Union General secretary the fairies
squeaky bum time. It is five fourteen the.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
First word on the News of the Day Early edition
with Andrew Dickens and One Room, Make Your Property Search
and simple News Talk Zippy.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Thank you so much for joining us. The time is
now five p seventeen. Wayne Browners said he wants congestion
charges on Auckland's motorways. They might be coming to other
cities as well. How do you feel about this? You
can text me two ninety two. We're going to be
talking about this in a few moments time. Meanwhile, to
the Fairies and new documents reveal three hundred million dollars
was set aside by the government to cover its broken
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ferry bill contract with Yundai. Even if Yundai land the
new deal to build two smaller ferries, the bill will
still have to be paid out. Todd Wolster is rail
the Maritime Transport Union General Secretary and has worken up
early for us Coombonding to you, Todd's three hundred million,
is that all?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I think it's undercut. There's a lot more than three
hundred million. I think they're playing the under sums there.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
What are they missing out?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Well, there's three hundred million under the ethers and nothing
not recognizing the costs that have already been put into
to procure these these theories, the two large theories. So's
there's many more millions that have been spent, Okay, made
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billion dollars or even more.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Okay, easy to throw around those words. But yes, I
understand these ships where to cost five hundred and fifty
one million dollars and now we've got three hundred million
to break that. But the pole project would cost three
point five billion, possibly even four by Now that's because
of the wharfside cost. Can you tell me why no
one talks about the wolf side cost, which is the
biggest part of this whole thing, and we'll still have
to happen.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Oh I think we still do. Just talk about it. Yeah, yeah, no,
it's maybe it's been played down. But the ambition by
the KI, I suppose was a bit high and it
was a one hundred year assidet. You know, the existing
infrastructure is probably fifty years old or less and needing
to be replaced, so they probably went a bit too
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far on that side of things. And there was a
lots of debate about where there was going to be
in Wellington, whether it was going to be close to
the railway station or income the existing.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Far fire.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
So yeah, talking about it, but yeah, it's all these are.
There's tenths on both sides, so they need to be reposed.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Wolves are on an earthquake for a fault, and they're
sixty years old and they're going to need something. So
we'll talk about that later. In your opinion, did the
government rush to cancel the ferries.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Absolutely, I don't think there was much thought put on
it at all, even the way that they canceled the ferries,
and I think it was by text message to High
and Dive before it was announced. A couple of hours later,
so the public was totally disrespectful. I think what is
good is that at least part of the Coalition has
gone to career and spoken to with the shipbuilders. The
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Prime Minister didn't and certainly the Minister of Finance didn't,
but at once to have all right.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Three months after the deal was canceled, the Ministerial Advisory
Group appointed by Nikola Willis told her that she should
urgently renegotiate the contract. She didn't. Was that a mistake?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Absolutely? Even the Nisterary Advisory Group was sort of geared
to be to what Nikola calls rail compatible, which is
like weird, everything is rail compatible. You can take fright
and put it on a push bite if you like.
But as far as rail enabled, which is what New
zeal needs, that's that's that's the main thing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I was going to ask you, are you a roll
on roll off guy, a rail enabled guy, or a
rail compatible guy.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Rail compatible is ridiculous, is what New Zella needs. It's
completely inefficient to taking freight off wagons and putting it
onto the little trucks and doing the same at the
other end. It's it's it's yeah, all right, it's not
even safe.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Really, Todd, I thank you for your time today. Todd
Volster from the Maritime Transport Union. It's News Talks. It
be oh yeah, we're talking about the congestion charges next.
I'm getting a lot of texts just going no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
absolutely no congestion charges. Well, keep those texts flying in
and we'll talk about this in a few moments time
with a guy from the National Road Carriers.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and One Room, Make your Property search simple. News Talks.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It be good morning. It is five twenty three. So
congestion apparently costs Orchander's two point six billion dollars every
year and certainly, and that's by twenty twenty six, that
US next year. Obviously, this is according to a report
that Wayne Brown the Man has commissioned, and he's calling
for a time of use charge to manage demand on
Auckland's roads. We know those as congestion charges. The city
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has the worst congestion of any city in New Zealand
or Australia. Apparently people are spending twenty nine million hours
a year sitting in traffic. It's National Road Carriers Association
see justin Tiger Business with me Hala justin Morning Andrew.
How would road carriers feel about the congestion charges? Would
they welcome them if they get all the unnecessary cars
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out of the system.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
Yeah, look, that's right. National Road Carriers supports. Time of
use is a valid tool and the tilkit for tackling congestion.
It's a major issue in Auckland, and I think the
win we'd be looking for out of time of use
in the city like Auckland is to peer back to
something like school holiday level traffic. I think that's around
about six percent reduction. And then what that enables for
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track drivers is they can get their fits through faster
and they could probably do more turns in a day
and more runs in a day as well. So certainly
they support it as long as the pricing is price drip.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Is there too much attention paid on, say a new
harbour crossing when we come to wanting to fix our
problems when the problems are actually in other parts of
the motorways and also in the roads that the council controls.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Look, it's all a system that has to be managed
in cohesion. So for Auckland, harbor crossing. What's really critical
is that we have a second crossing put in place
so there's resilience. When you've got an older structure and
one that's having to be closed because it's too windy
or winds lanes shut down, we need extra resilience there.
(14:43):
There's no question in the level of traffic on the
motorway needs that getting it in the right place would
help congestion. But yeah, look Andrew, you're right, there's other
parts the motorway that need actually widening. And we have
three lanes narrow down to Poo which we've all enjoyed
on away getting out of Auckland. They need to be
addressed as well, and that will have a major factor
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in terms of improving congestion.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
All right, justin we'll wait to see what happens and
whether this really does occur. Certainly, I was driving around
in a rush hour yesterday and the problem wasn't on
the motorways, my god. It was in Wirail Road, it
was in Lake Roads, it was everywhere. It's suburban and
a little bit on the motorways as well. Good luck.
If you're driving into work today, it is our five
twenty six. It's News Talk st B.
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It is our five twenty eight. This is News Talk
shit B. So did you hear the disappointment oozing out
of that maritime union guy I just spoke to when
we find out, of course, the break fee for the
inter island ferries will be around three hundred million Hurricans.
It's more like a billion, But that recon felt like
a reckon, if you know what I mean. The fairies,
by the way, only cost five hundred and fifty one
million dollars, so three hundred MILI. That's sixty percent of
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the cost of the ferries just to break the contract.
So if we do accept that a billion dollars has
been spent on nothing at all, it's making labours light
rail fiasco look trivial. The union guy caught all the
situation Nikola Willis's mistake, and I have to say I agree.
She is hoping to be remembered as the savior of
the economy, but she will never escape this billion dollar
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boat botch up. A botch up she jumped into because
I think she just wanted to strike a blow against
labor and they're spending. And also Kiwi Rail, who seem
to think the government is an open bank. Winston Peters
is rushing to patch things up. We always seem to
forget what the real cost of the project is. Yeah,
five hundred and fifty mili on some boats, but it's
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the wharves and more particularly the Wellington woves. They need
to be renovated. They need to be earthquake strengthened, they
need to be future proofed. We need to decide if
they need rail infrastructure at all so we can roll
a train on a ship or do we have a
terminal where we swap off over the cargo. We need
to decide the capacity of the terminals. And these are
all questions that never make the public decay. It was
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a three to four billion dollar project. The boats are
only five hundred and fifty mili of that. So where's
the debate on all the rest? And as we wait
for Winston's grand answer to this three billion dollar question,
I hope he will cover those issues as much as
the floating stock. And speaking of which, Winston Peters is
giving us an update at seven thirty five this morning
(17:21):
on the Mike Hosking Breakfast. He won't make it an
announcement because he's got to the end of March and
you know he's come into this late. But we will
hopefully find out where we might stand in just a
few bothers time and still to come, We're going to
find out where America feels about Ukraine. And this is
early edition. I'm Andrew Dickens. Good morning to you.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
Andrew Dickens and One Roof. To make your property search
simple when you talk, said be.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Julie, Joan, Joan, Please don't take him just because you care.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Dolly, good one to you. I'm Drew Dickens and for
Ryan Bridge, missus, Dolly Parton and Joe Lean. Broke my
heart yesterday to hear that Dolly Parton's husband has died.
His name's Carl Dean. He died on Tuesday. He was
eighty two. Dean was a retired asphalt paver, and he
famously met Dolly outside the Wishy Washy laundromat in the day.
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She moved to Nashville and she was just eighteen. The
couple enjoyed nearly sixty years of marriage together. She wrote
her Great Love songs all about Carl Dean's Now. I
was lucky enough to interview Dolly. Once we were scheduled
for a ten minute chat, we spoke for over thirty.
She was so giving and so chatty and so open,
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and much of it, though, was about her life with
her husband, Karl. She called her husband shy and quiet,
and their love was so sweet and good. And you'd
have to say the opposite's truly a trap, because she went,
she's not shy, not really. It was a beautiful, beautiful
relationship and now it's over. And in these days of
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marital discord against amongst celebrities, Dolly and Carl's love I
think was a beacon for us all to admire. It's
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
To six Andrew dickas.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Let's go around New Zealand. Callen Prokton joins us from Otago.
How they callum morning, Andrew. The police need help finding
a couple of people missing.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Look they do.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
The first is a sixty five year old woman, Penelope.
She was last seen here in central Dunedin on Friday
and didn't board her flight back to Topol on the
Saturday and hasn't been seen or heard from since. She
was wearing a blue floral top capri pants when she
was last seen, and police also are asking for the
public's help to find Joshua Jeets last still so seen
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in Dunedin, but back in December he was thought to
be heading back to christ Church. Anyone with information urged
to contact police. How's Doneda's with clearing to find? This morning,
a high fifteenth class Jowe.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Joined us some Cratich. Hello, Claire, Hello, so there's a
group of Contabrians who want to buy some land for
the public.
Speaker 11 (20:09):
Yeah, this is pretty cool, Andrew. This is a piece
of land on Banks Peninsula. The Lebon's Bay Conservation Trust
has been working for some time now to raise four
hundred and fifty thousand dollars in order to buy thirty
nine hectares to turn into a reserve. They only have
a final twenty thousand dollars left to raise. They're being
helped along too by a donor who will match every
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dollar until that goal is reached. The Lebon's Bay Conservation
Trust at chairperson Matthew McDonald says the fundraising effort is
testament to the people who can see the vision for
this project. He says it's not necessarily about now, but
in one hundred years time when people will see the
benefit of what was started today.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Good stuff, Thank you for your contribution. And what's your weather?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Cloudy Period's a few showers today then clearing this afternoon
for fine spells southerlyes high only.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Fifteen Maxtel joins us from Weillington, HIMX.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
How's the what where are we to do with the Wellington
Water dub buckle?
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Yeah? Look, we went to Fulton Hogan yesterday, the company
that does most of that external pipework maintenance. They wouldn't comment,
no statement. They just said they'd leave it to Wellington
Water to respond, which was a little surprising considering you've
got Mayor Torrifano and others very publicly saying that Wellington
ratepayers have been ripped off by these bloated deals and
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contracts that Wellington Water had signed as well. It's clear
Wellington Water is shouldering most of the blame, a completely
disorganized agency with the lack of oversight. But what about
those on the other side of those deals. You've got
the Commerce Commission now investigating potential unlawful conduct by those contractors.
I can tell you off the record, I've been told.
A lot of people are still waiting to receive the
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full report. All we've seen to this point is a
summary of the accusations. You've got mayors in the region
unreservedly apologizing the rate payers. Would corporates need to as.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well more to come absolutely, and I'm sure those corporates
are auto ratepayers and so they're ripping themselves off. So
there's a bit of cammer. How's your weather.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Mostly cloudy with a few showers and more strong Southerlys
are high of only fifteen in central.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
And I think you Neva Rettimano from Auckland, Hello morning.
There's a couple of Pack and Save supermarkets in trouble.
Speaker 13 (22:21):
Pack and Save yes under the spotlight. So the Commerce
Commission is taking two Pack and Saved supermarkets to court
claiming they had misleading special So Business Desk is reporting
that charges have been laid against this is Pack and
Saved Silverdale and Auckland peck and Save Mill Street that's
in Hamilton, so that those charges can be laid in
the Auckland District Court. It alleges inaccurate pricing also misleading
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special so you know, obviously they may have breached the
fair trading.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Eat how's Hawkin's weather fine?
Speaker 13 (22:48):
Actually southerlyst twenty threes are high.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
And the big orchand issue at the motor is congestion charges.
We did an interview about fifteen minutes ago. If you
missed it, you should get up earlier. There's the road
carriers who actually want it to come in because they
want off the road. I've been asking you, how do
you feel about it? The text are are coming in
and saying no. But that's self interest, don't you think.
Jeff writes that Auckland's problem is that there is no
alternative option than to drive cars. Most growing cities in
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the world have a circular route around the city. They
have comprehensive rail options. We have neither. We are now
intensifying housing and clogging up local roads also, so the
whole thing has not been done. Well well done, Jeff,
thank you for your text. And Johannes says government just
keep on talking about about it, just build it like
Australia did. Let's talk about actually that with Australia. Sydney
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built a ten lane harbor Bridge and their entire They
started their underground rail network in the nineteen thirties. In
the nineteen thirties, that's when the population of Sydney was
one million. Yet every time Auckland has talked about doing something,
they've said, oh, we're too small. Well Sydney didn't think it,
and look what happened in the future they coped. We
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have the worst congestion in all of Australasia in Auckland,
and the other cities like Toronger and Wellington are catching
up now. JD Vance called the United Kingdom Army useless. Essentially.
Gavin Gray with the details in just a few moments
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En z International Correspondence with ZI Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
It's thirteen to six. Kevin Gray out of the UK.
Good oning to you, Kevin hither so jd Vance, the
US Vice President has basically called the UK a random
country with a useless army.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Now that is something he is denying. But let me
give you what the quote was. He said that the
Donald Trump administration is doing a lot more and is
certainly the US stake in Ukraine's economy that the true
administration is trying to get in is certainly quote a
better security guarantee than twenty thousand troops from some random
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country that hasn't fought a war in thirty or forty
years end of quote. So well, of course, the UK
and France have both said they are willing to put
troops on the ground as Ukraine perhaps gets nearer a
peace deal. But now JD Vance, the Vice President of America,
said no, no, no, I didn't even mention the UK or France,
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adding they both had fought bravely alongside the US over
the last twenty years and beyond. So the question is
who was he referring to if he wasn't referring to
the UK and to France. As you can imagine, it
isn't the Second World War that he might be alluding
to thirty or forty years ago. He has just forgotten
that the UK, of course lost quite a few troops
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supporting America to try and give freedom to Iraq. So
one question is how he said this. One begins to
think this shooting from the hip that he and Donald
Trump are so keenon is perhaps going to get them
into trauble occasionally.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, he was on Fox News when he said all this,
and he probably felt very relexed, and he was just Riffin.
And of course Riff's come back to haunt you when
you are the vice president of the United States of America. Meanwhile,
we've got the guy who played Dirty fired in the Crown.
He's in trouble with the police.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Yes, interesting this. The actor Khalid Abdallah has also been
in United ninety three, The Kite Runner of the Day
of the Jackal. He is one of Hollywood's most outspoken
actors when it comes to the war between Gaza and Israel.
He has publicly called for a permanent cease far and
in January attended a very very large event in the
center of London which was supporting Gaza and the Palestinians. Now, he, however,
(27:48):
has received a letter from the police basically saying we
need to interview you as part of our ongoing investigation
into alleged breaches of Public Order Act conditions. On the Saturday,
the eighteenth of January. What does that mean? Well, it
was a static rally and it was involving several thousand people.
It took place near government offices because the government and
(28:08):
the authorities decided to block the plans to hold the
march near the BBC headquarters in the sort of central
north of London. Police said these conditions were clearly communicated
to those taking part in the protest that they should
remain in Whitehall and then they go on. Despite this,
a large number made its way into Trafalgar Square and
in some cases attempted to go further. So those must
(28:30):
be we believe the allegations. But of course we're hearing
now from the actor that he believes the right to
protest in the UK is under attack.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Kevin, I thank you. The time is our t Intersex,
Well he did it. Donald Trump has paused all military
aid into Ukraine. This comes just days after his roun
with Zelenski in the Oval Office. White House officials have
noted the poors could be lifted if Zelenski shows a
new commitment to peace talks with Russia. I'm joined again
by Mettterrell, who joined us a couple of weeks ago.
(29:01):
Marco Rubio's former campaign manager, Hello, Man's.
Speaker 12 (29:06):
Very great to be with youre hey.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Look, so a day i go Zelenski said he'd signed
the minerals deal. Last night the Prime Minister of Ukraine
said that signed the military deal. They're saying this because
they're comfortable with the security guarantees that Europe is offering.
So why is America punishing him again?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Well?
Speaker 12 (29:22):
Quick correct cruestion of my title is the chief of
staff from Mark Roots presential campaign in twenty sixteen. Is
just quick correction there. But great to be with you again,
and I'll just say that, you know, look, I mean
what we're seeing right now today shape is on the
heels of the Friday meeting between President and Lensky, President Trump.
You know, President Trump feeling there's always taken the action
that he sees fit to pause this military aid, if
(29:46):
you will, This is US aid to Ukraine. And I
think at this stage right now, the real question everyone
has is what happened next. I think right now we're
going to just pause and wait and see. But certainly
I think right now President Trump has been very transparent,
very clear about what he expects, and that is that
he wants to bring peace to this war. He campaigned,
(30:06):
I'm bringing peace to this war and he campaigned on
doing it in a negotiated way, and I think right
now where this administration is at is that they felt
that this agreement would have been a good deal economically,
not just for both Ukraine and the United States, but
also in its own right with service and security guarantee.
So we'll see what happens here. We're seeing a lot
of moving parts, of course takes shape here, but pausing
(30:26):
that aid is something that's obviously breaking news and frankly
nothing that people should be too shot by giving how
that meaning went on Friday.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Okay, what's the reaction mean like in the United States
of America because our Americans struggling with some of the
concisions that the prisident Trump is making to Russia.
Speaker 12 (30:43):
Well, I think a lot of Americans first and foremost
viewing this. You know, if you look at the recent
polling on this, the vast majority of Americans over seventy
percent of Americans want this war to end. And look,
the reality is, I think Americans recognize that there's anthy
concessions on both sides, but you can't get there in
terms of discussing those concessions unless you bring the necessary
parties to the negotiating table and then clues Presidents Lensky
(31:06):
being on the negotiating table, but also President Putin. And
what your senior administrations say most recently is that they
feel as though this war is a war of attrition
and the only way to end it is to get
both parties, Presidence Lenski and President Putin to the negotiating table.
I think the administration has been clear that you know
you're going to have to likely see concessions on both
sides here, but you don't know what those will look
(31:27):
like until you negotiate, until you have discussions. And that's
where I think the administration is at want to get those
discussions going. Bullt by President Putin as well as by
Presidents of Ski.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Well, Matt, and I'm sorry the chief of stuff the
fore my chief of stuff Marco Rubio's campaign is that correct?
Speaker 12 (31:42):
Yeah, so appreciate that if I make sure the title
is accurate. But all good.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's okay, oh good, and thank you for joining us today.
That's Matt Terrell and it is now saveing minutes to six.
Used to be.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
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Speaker 3 (32:04):
Be Yeah, it's five to six. Thank you for your text, Steve,
and I probably agree with you. Vance was probably talking
about peacekeeping forces and not some random country. It probably
wasn't the UK make Hoskins in studio. And you've got
Winston Peter's.
Speaker 14 (32:16):
Yeah do yeah, I do. So we'll find out. I
sort of want to, funnily enough, want to talk about
the Chinese more than I do about the fairies. To
be perfectly frank, I am only interested in the fairies
to the extent because we talked to the Prime Minister
about it yesterday and he didn't know the answer. If
they go with Hyundai, do you get rid of most
of the three hundred million? And you'd have to think
you would, wouldn't you. And so that then turns out
(32:39):
to be quite a good deal. So not only aren't
you spending three plus billion, you're not even paying a
cancelation fee, and you're getting what you wanted in the
first place.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Sure enough. My whole thing about this is it's the
ships are just the minor part of the whole deal.
It's the wolf side that's going to cost so much more.
Speaker 14 (32:54):
Not necessarily, because if you get the right ships, you
don't need to do much wolf side. I think that's
part of the problem. I mean, part of the three
pl plus billion was most of it turned out to
be all the stuff you had to do on the land.
The ships themselves were only half a billion dollars, so
that was the problem. So if you can get a
ship that you don't need anything done wolf side, then
not only do you not play a break fee, you
save yourself hundreds of millions of not billions of dollars.
(33:15):
And Winston can go look what I did.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
He's not going to tell you any of this, is
he I'm not sure, but I'm going to be well
it is marchand that he's got to come days.
Speaker 14 (33:25):
He's got a couple of weeks. And the other interesting
thing about the report that got put out yesterday was
one they should have negotiated harder last year when they
got told this is Nicola Willis's problem. Of course, the
other side of it is there are several companies that
have been redacted, so I mean it's competitive. So anyway,
we'll talk to him about that. But I really want
to talk about the cooks and Chinese and stuff, So
we'll do.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
All of that more. Dolly's husband done. Yeah, very sad,
wasn't it? Very sad?
Speaker 14 (33:47):
The wishy, the wishy washy. If you didn't know about
the wishy washy the laundromat, you couldn't make that.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
You couldn't.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
I mean, that's so Nashville, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
It's a great story, good stuff, and I thank you.
My name is Andrew Dickins, made thanks to produce a
kensing and we'll be back again tomorrow. Have a great, great.
Speaker 13 (34:02):
Day some somehow.
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It's combody to you. Welcome into the program. I'm Andrew
Dickens broto In the next hour, it's getting to squeaky
bum time in the ferry debate. So what we're breaking
our deal with Hyundai really cost us. We'll have that
story for you in five. Wayne Brown, the Aukha mayor
wants congestion charges. How do rogue carriers feel about that?
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We'll have that story in ten. How do you feel
about that? You could text me ninety two ninety two
the guy who played Dirty fay Ed and the Crown
is being spoken to by police after comments about Palestine.
Gavin Gray from the UK on that and the big
world story, Trump pulls all defense aid from Hukraine. We're
going to be talking to Marco Rubio's former campaign manager
just before six. We'll have correspondence from around the world
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and around New Zealand and news as it break. And
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you can email me Dickens at news talk setb dot
co dot nz. It's seven up to five the agenda
and it's Wednesday, the fifth of March, and the trade
war continues. China and Canada have hit back as Donald
(01:19):
Trump's twenty five percent tariffs on imports from Canada and
a ten percent levy against China begins today, and China
has vowed to fight the US to the bitter end,
announcing up to fifteen percent tariffs on a range of
American products, and Canada has outlined twenty five percent tariffs
against billions of dollars of US goods. Mexico also will
(01:40):
join the fray. They will now have twenty five percent
tariffs from today. Mexico President Claudia Sinbaum Pado says she
will announce Mexico's retaliatory tariffs on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's going to be very costly for people to take
advantage of this country. They can't come in and steal
our money and steal our jobs, and take our factories
and take our businesses and expect not to be punished.
And they're being punished by tariffs. It's a very powerful
weapon that politicians haven't used because they were either dishonest, stupid,
(02:13):
or paid off in some other forum.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And now we're using a yes you are. And the
Dale Jones fell seven hundred and sixty points over night
while you were sleeping. It also fell six hundred and
fifty points on Monday. This will have a big impact.
And those aren't the only countries, by the way, annoyed
with the United States, of course, Ukraine's Prime minister says
his country is firmly determined to continue cooperating with Washington.
(02:37):
This is after President Trump paused or military aid. Denis Shimhal,
who we don't hear from very often, the prime minister says,
Kiev is ready to sign a deal. They will give
the United States access to the Ukraine's deposits of rare
earth minerals. We're in contact every day with the US
administration and Congress, and this conversation will continue and I'm
sure we will achieve peace in Ukraine. Meanwhile, EU Chief
(03:00):
Urshula vonder Layan says Europe is in an era of
rearmament and is ready to step up on defence.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
And Europe is ready to massively boost its defense spending,
both to respond to the short term urgency to act
and to support Ukraine, but also to address the long
term need to take on more responsibility for our own
European security.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And finally from home some news from home. Parliament yesterday
in the House debated Andrew Bailey's resignation and the government
under fire by labor for covering up the incident. And
he's a response by National Bay of Plenty MP Tom Rutherford.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
A fighter the how many chances was she given? How
long did that investigation take? Michael Wood? How many opportunities
was he given from the Cabinet Office to get rid
of his shares? Seventeen times?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Kitty Allen in a.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Diabolical situation, there go rab Shama, who remembers Dr Goraz
the Shama drama. So I would say the Member's officer,
do not throw stones if you are in glasshouses.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Oh, happy days and great memories. It's now ten minutes
after five.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Andrew Dickens on an early edition with one roof to
make your property surge, simple youth dog Zibby So.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
A week on from his waffle fest on the Mike
Hosking Breakfast, the Prime Minister has returned from Vietnam with
a bit of conservative fire in his belly and yesterday
on Mike's show, his comment on free school lunches was
pretty punchy. He said, basically, if you don't like it,
make a mar mite sandwich and an apple and put
it in a box. It's what previous generations did. And
he's right. I growing up had one honey sandwich and
(04:45):
one jam sandwich and an apple cut in half every
day for thirteen years, one half of the apple for
morning tea, the other half for afternoon playtime. I appear
to survive, and I got an education on the subject
of free school lunches, so it must be on its
last legs. So the funding for this thing partly came
from the COVID Emergency Fund, and by partly I say
(05:07):
half a billion dollars worth. So the money obviously has
a limited timeframe because I don't know if you've noticed
there's no more COVID. Well, if there is, we don't
worry about it. And even if it was slightly successful,
the future is pre curious because we don't have the
money and there is a problem with the entire framework
of our social spending that you can see in the
free lunches. So Labour believed in generality that means if
(05:31):
one person got it, everybody got it. And it's in
most of our policy framework to be fair. So if
one kid was starving in school, then all kids at
that school should get a meal. Or if you're sixty
five and unable to make ends meet with no employment,
you get a pension, but then everyone gets that pension,
whether you need it or not. That's generality. The opposite
ideology is social investment, and that is the corterstone of
(05:53):
former National leader Bill English's positions. With social investment, you
identify the people with need and only help them. It's
called an investment because it should lift the poor up
and make the more productive in our economy. Bill ran
on that platform in the election that he eventually lost
to Jacinda Adurance, so he never did it. The New
National has talked about it from time to time, but
(06:15):
they've never done it. And I was just thinking it
might help them if maybe they gave Vilingas a call
and maybe got his notes from last time and got
him to help them actually make something happen. Andrew Dickens,
here's a name you don't know but you should. His
name is James Harrison Jim. He's an Australian known as
the man with the Golden Arm because he has saved
(06:38):
so many babies with his blood donation. Well, he's died
aged eighty eight, so in his lifetime, Jim rolled up
and sieved more than eleven hundred times to give plasma,
which was then used in two point four million doses
of a medication to save at risk newborn babies. Jim's
blood was special because it contained a rare and precious
(06:59):
antibody essential to make anti D injections. Now, ANTID injections
control a disease that occurs when blood types of a
mother and the baby are incompatible that can result a miscarriage,
still worth in other conflications, So Jim's blood made the
anti D and it saved babies lives. Jim first donated
(07:19):
blood in nineteen fifty four. He apparently never missed a
fortnightly appointment. He was still giving blood in his eighties.
He was inspired because he underwent lung surgery as a
fourteen year old and got many blood transfusions. So he said, right,
I'm going to do the whole thing. Another reason I'm
telling you this story is because Jim Harrison's a great man,
the man with the Golden arm and that he's died
(07:41):
and that is very sad. But he donated blood and
maybe you should be donating blood as well, because you
never know yours might be as special as James Harrison's
Andrew Dickens. Whenstym Peters is talking to Mike Hosting later
today around about seven thirty five, all are about the fairies.
So we've found out just how much is going to
cost to break the contract. So could it cost more?
(08:05):
We're going to talk in a few moments time to
the Rail of Maritime Transport Union General secretary the fairies
squeaky bum time. It is five fourteen the.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
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and simple News Talk Zippy.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Thank you so much for joining us. The time is
now five p seventeen. Wayne Browners said he wants congestion
charges on Auckland's motorways. They might be coming to other
cities as well. How do you feel about this? You
can text me two ninety two. We're going to be
talking about this in a few moments time. Meanwhile, to
the Fairies and new documents reveal three hundred million dollars
was set aside by the government to cover its broken
(08:44):
ferry bill contract with Yundai. Even if Yundai land the
new deal to build two smaller ferries, the bill will
still have to be paid out. Todd Wolster is rail
the Maritime Transport Union General Secretary and has worken up
early for us Coombonding to you, Todd's three hundred million,
is that all?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I think it's undercut. There's a lot more than three
hundred million. I think they're playing the under sums there.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
What are they missing out?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Well, there's three hundred million under the ethers and nothing
not recognizing the costs that have already been put into
to procure these these theories, the two large theories. So's
there's many more millions that have been spent, Okay, made
(09:34):
billion dollars or even more.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Okay, easy to throw around those words. But yes, I
understand these ships where to cost five hundred and fifty
one million dollars and now we've got three hundred million
to break that. But the pole project would cost three
point five billion, possibly even four by Now that's because
of the wharfside cost. Can you tell me why no
one talks about the wolf side cost, which is the
biggest part of this whole thing, and we'll still have
to happen.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Oh I think we still do. Just talk about it. Yeah, yeah, no,
it's maybe it's been played down. But the ambition by
the KI, I suppose was a bit high and it
was a one hundred year assidet. You know, the existing
infrastructure is probably fifty years old or less and needing
to be replaced, so they probably went a bit too
(10:19):
far on that side of things. And there was a
lots of debate about where there was going to be
in Wellington, whether it was going to be close to
the railway station or income the existing.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Far fire.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
So yeah, talking about it, but yeah, it's all these are.
There's tenths on both sides, so they need to be reposed.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Wolves are on an earthquake for a fault, and they're
sixty years old and they're going to need something. So
we'll talk about that later. In your opinion, did the
government rush to cancel the ferries.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Absolutely, I don't think there was much thought put on
it at all, even the way that they canceled the ferries,
and I think it was by text message to High
and Dive before it was announced. A couple of hours later,
so the public was totally disrespectful. I think what is
good is that at least part of the Coalition has
gone to career and spoken to with the shipbuilders. The
(11:12):
Prime Minister didn't and certainly the Minister of Finance didn't,
but at once to have all right.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Three months after the deal was canceled, the Ministerial Advisory
Group appointed by Nikola Willis told her that she should
urgently renegotiate the contract. She didn't. Was that a mistake?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Absolutely? Even the Nisterary Advisory Group was sort of geared
to be to what Nikola calls rail compatible, which is
like weird, everything is rail compatible. You can take fright
and put it on a push bite if you like.
But as far as rail enabled, which is what New
zeal needs, that's that's that's the main thing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I was going to ask you, are you a roll
on roll off guy, a rail enabled guy, or a
rail compatible guy.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Rail compatible is ridiculous, is what New Zella needs. It's
completely inefficient to taking freight off wagons and putting it
onto the little trucks and doing the same at the
other end. It's it's it's yeah, all right, it's not
even safe.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Really, Todd, I thank you for your time today. Todd
Volster from the Maritime Transport Union. It's News Talks. It
be oh yeah, we're talking about the congestion charges next.
I'm getting a lot of texts just going no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
absolutely no congestion charges. Well, keep those texts flying in
and we'll talk about this in a few moments time
with a guy from the National Road Carriers.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
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Speaker 3 (12:44):
It be good morning. It is five twenty three. So
congestion apparently costs Orchander's two point six billion dollars every
year and certainly, and that's by twenty twenty six, that
US next year. Obviously, this is according to a report
that Wayne Brown the Man has commissioned, and he's calling
for a time of use charge to manage demand on
Auckland's roads. We know those as congestion charges. The city
(13:08):
has the worst congestion of any city in New Zealand
or Australia. Apparently people are spending twenty nine million hours
a year sitting in traffic. It's National Road Carriers Association
see justin Tiger Business with me Hala justin Morning Andrew.
How would road carriers feel about the congestion charges? Would
they welcome them if they get all the unnecessary cars
(13:29):
out of the system.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
Yeah, look, that's right. National Road Carriers supports. Time of
use is a valid tool and the tilkit for tackling congestion.
It's a major issue in Auckland, and I think the
win we'd be looking for out of time of use
in the city like Auckland is to peer back to
something like school holiday level traffic. I think that's around
about six percent reduction. And then what that enables for
(13:55):
track drivers is they can get their fits through faster
and they could probably do more turns in a day
and more runs in a day as well. So certainly
they support it as long as the pricing is price drip.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Is there too much attention paid on, say a new
harbour crossing when we come to wanting to fix our
problems when the problems are actually in other parts of
the motorways and also in the roads that the council controls.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Look, it's all a system that has to be managed
in cohesion. So for Auckland, harbor crossing. What's really critical
is that we have a second crossing put in place
so there's resilience. When you've got an older structure and
one that's having to be closed because it's too windy
or winds lanes shut down, we need extra resilience there.
(14:43):
There's no question in the level of traffic on the
motorway needs that getting it in the right place would
help congestion. But yeah, look Andrew, you're right, there's other
parts the motorway that need actually widening. And we have
three lanes narrow down to Poo which we've all enjoyed
on away getting out of Auckland. They need to be
addressed as well, and that will have a major factor
(15:04):
in terms of improving congestion.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
All right, justin we'll wait to see what happens and
whether this really does occur. Certainly, I was driving around
in a rush hour yesterday and the problem wasn't on
the motorways, my god. It was in Wirail Road, it
was in Lake Roads, it was everywhere. It's suburban and
a little bit on the motorways as well. Good luck.
If you're driving into work today, it is our five
twenty six. It's News Talk st B.
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It is our five twenty eight. This is News Talk
shit B. So did you hear the disappointment oozing out
of that maritime union guy I just spoke to when
we find out, of course, the break fee for the
inter island ferries will be around three hundred million Hurricans.
It's more like a billion, But that recon felt like
a reckon, if you know what I mean. The fairies,
by the way, only cost five hundred and fifty one
million dollars, so three hundred MILI. That's sixty percent of
(15:57):
the cost of the ferries just to break the contract.
So if we do accept that a billion dollars has
been spent on nothing at all, it's making labours light
rail fiasco look trivial. The union guy caught all the
situation Nikola Willis's mistake, and I have to say I agree.
She is hoping to be remembered as the savior of
the economy, but she will never escape this billion dollar
(16:18):
boat botch up. A botch up she jumped into because
I think she just wanted to strike a blow against
labor and they're spending. And also Kiwi Rail, who seem
to think the government is an open bank. Winston Peters
is rushing to patch things up. We always seem to
forget what the real cost of the project is. Yeah,
five hundred and fifty mili on some boats, but it's
(16:38):
the wharves and more particularly the Wellington woves. They need
to be renovated. They need to be earthquake strengthened, they
need to be future proofed. We need to decide if
they need rail infrastructure at all so we can roll
a train on a ship or do we have a
terminal where we swap off over the cargo. We need
to decide the capacity of the terminals. And these are
all questions that never make the public decay. It was
(17:00):
a three to four billion dollar project. The boats are
only five hundred and fifty mili of that. So where's
the debate on all the rest? And as we wait
for Winston's grand answer to this three billion dollar question,
I hope he will cover those issues as much as
the floating stock. And speaking of which, Winston Peters is
giving us an update at seven thirty five this morning
(17:21):
on the Mike Hosking Breakfast. He won't make it an
announcement because he's got to the end of March and
you know he's come into this late. But we will
hopefully find out where we might stand in just a
few bothers time and still to come, We're going to
find out where America feels about Ukraine. And this is
early edition. I'm Andrew Dickens. Good morning to you.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
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Speaker 4 (17:55):
Julie, Joan, Joan, Please don't take him just because you care.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Dolly, good one to you. I'm Drew Dickens and for
Ryan Bridge, missus, Dolly Parton and Joe Lean. Broke my
heart yesterday to hear that Dolly Parton's husband has died.
His name's Carl Dean. He died on Tuesday. He was
eighty two. Dean was a retired asphalt paver, and he
famously met Dolly outside the Wishy Washy laundromat in the day.
(18:27):
She moved to Nashville and she was just eighteen. The
couple enjoyed nearly sixty years of marriage together. She wrote
her Great Love songs all about Carl Dean's Now. I
was lucky enough to interview Dolly. Once we were scheduled
for a ten minute chat, we spoke for over thirty.
She was so giving and so chatty and so open,
(18:48):
and much of it, though, was about her life with
her husband, Karl. She called her husband shy and quiet,
and their love was so sweet and good. And you'd
have to say the opposite's truly a trap, because she went,
she's not shy, not really. It was a beautiful, beautiful
relationship and now it's over. And in these days of
(19:08):
marital discord against amongst celebrities, Dolly and Carl's love I
think was a beacon for us all to admire. It's
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
To six Andrew dickas.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Let's go around New Zealand. Callen Prokton joins us from Otago.
How they callum morning, Andrew. The police need help finding
a couple of people missing.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Look they do.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
The first is a sixty five year old woman, Penelope.
She was last seen here in central Dunedin on Friday
and didn't board her flight back to Topol on the
Saturday and hasn't been seen or heard from since. She
was wearing a blue floral top capri pants when she
was last seen, and police also are asking for the
public's help to find Joshua Jeets last still so seen
(19:51):
in Dunedin, but back in December he was thought to
be heading back to christ Church. Anyone with information urged
to contact police. How's Doneda's with clearing to find? This morning,
a high fifteenth class Jowe.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Joined us some Cratich. Hello, Claire, Hello, so there's a
group of Contabrians who want to buy some land for
the public.
Speaker 11 (20:09):
Yeah, this is pretty cool, Andrew. This is a piece
of land on Banks Peninsula. The Lebon's Bay Conservation Trust
has been working for some time now to raise four
hundred and fifty thousand dollars in order to buy thirty
nine hectares to turn into a reserve. They only have
a final twenty thousand dollars left to raise. They're being
helped along too by a donor who will match every
(20:32):
dollar until that goal is reached. The Lebon's Bay Conservation
Trust at chairperson Matthew McDonald says the fundraising effort is
testament to the people who can see the vision for
this project. He says it's not necessarily about now, but
in one hundred years time when people will see the
benefit of what was started today.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Good stuff, Thank you for your contribution. And what's your weather?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Cloudy Period's a few showers today then clearing this afternoon
for fine spells southerlyes high only.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Fifteen Maxtel joins us from Weillington, HIMX.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
How's the what where are we to do with the Wellington
Water dub buckle?
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Yeah? Look, we went to Fulton Hogan yesterday, the company
that does most of that external pipework maintenance. They wouldn't comment,
no statement. They just said they'd leave it to Wellington
Water to respond, which was a little surprising considering you've
got Mayor Torrifano and others very publicly saying that Wellington
ratepayers have been ripped off by these bloated deals and
(21:31):
contracts that Wellington Water had signed as well. It's clear
Wellington Water is shouldering most of the blame, a completely
disorganized agency with the lack of oversight. But what about
those on the other side of those deals. You've got
the Commerce Commission now investigating potential unlawful conduct by those contractors.
I can tell you off the record, I've been told.
A lot of people are still waiting to receive the
(21:51):
full report. All we've seen to this point is a
summary of the accusations. You've got mayors in the region
unreservedly apologizing the rate payers. Would corporates need to as.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well more to come absolutely, and I'm sure those corporates
are auto ratepayers and so they're ripping themselves off. So
there's a bit of cammer. How's your weather.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Mostly cloudy with a few showers and more strong Southerlys
are high of only fifteen in central.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
And I think you Neva Rettimano from Auckland, Hello morning.
There's a couple of Pack and Save supermarkets in trouble.
Speaker 13 (22:21):
Pack and Save yes under the spotlight. So the Commerce
Commission is taking two Pack and Saved supermarkets to court
claiming they had misleading special So Business Desk is reporting
that charges have been laid against this is Pack and
Saved Silverdale and Auckland peck and Save Mill Street that's
in Hamilton, so that those charges can be laid in
the Auckland District Court. It alleges inaccurate pricing also misleading
(22:42):
special so you know, obviously they may have breached the
fair trading.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Eat how's Hawkin's weather fine?
Speaker 13 (22:48):
Actually southerlyst twenty threes are high.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
And the big orchand issue at the motor is congestion charges.
We did an interview about fifteen minutes ago. If you
missed it, you should get up earlier. There's the road
carriers who actually want it to come in because they
want off the road. I've been asking you, how do
you feel about it? The text are are coming in
and saying no. But that's self interest, don't you think.
Jeff writes that Auckland's problem is that there is no
alternative option than to drive cars. Most growing cities in
(23:12):
the world have a circular route around the city. They
have comprehensive rail options. We have neither. We are now
intensifying housing and clogging up local roads also, so the
whole thing has not been done. Well well done, Jeff,
thank you for your text. And Johannes says government just
keep on talking about about it, just build it like
Australia did. Let's talk about actually that with Australia. Sydney
(23:34):
built a ten lane harbor Bridge and their entire They
started their underground rail network in the nineteen thirties. In
the nineteen thirties, that's when the population of Sydney was
one million. Yet every time Auckland has talked about doing something,
they've said, oh, we're too small. Well Sydney didn't think it,
and look what happened in the future they coped. We
(23:57):
have the worst congestion in all of Australasia in Auckland,
and the other cities like Toronger and Wellington are catching
up now. JD Vance called the United Kingdom Army useless. Essentially.
Gavin Gray with the details in just a few moments
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En z International Correspondence with ZI Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
It's thirteen to six. Kevin Gray out of the UK.
Good oning to you, Kevin hither so jd Vance, the
US Vice President has basically called the UK a random
country with a useless army.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Now that is something he is denying. But let me
give you what the quote was. He said that the
Donald Trump administration is doing a lot more and is
certainly the US stake in Ukraine's economy that the true
administration is trying to get in is certainly quote a
better security guarantee than twenty thousand troops from some random
(26:08):
country that hasn't fought a war in thirty or forty
years end of quote. So well, of course, the UK
and France have both said they are willing to put
troops on the ground as Ukraine perhaps gets nearer a
peace deal. But now JD Vance, the Vice President of America,
said no, no, no, I didn't even mention the UK or France,
(26:29):
adding they both had fought bravely alongside the US over
the last twenty years and beyond. So the question is
who was he referring to if he wasn't referring to
the UK and to France. As you can imagine, it
isn't the Second World War that he might be alluding
to thirty or forty years ago. He has just forgotten
that the UK, of course lost quite a few troops
(26:50):
supporting America to try and give freedom to Iraq. So
one question is how he said this. One begins to
think this shooting from the hip that he and Donald
Trump are so keenon is perhaps going to get them
into trauble occasionally.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, he was on Fox News when he said all this,
and he probably felt very relexed, and he was just Riffin.
And of course Riff's come back to haunt you when
you are the vice president of the United States of America. Meanwhile,
we've got the guy who played Dirty fired in the Crown.
He's in trouble with the police.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Yes, interesting this. The actor Khalid Abdallah has also been
in United ninety three, The Kite Runner of the Day
of the Jackal. He is one of Hollywood's most outspoken
actors when it comes to the war between Gaza and Israel.
He has publicly called for a permanent cease far and
in January attended a very very large event in the
center of London which was supporting Gaza and the Palestinians. Now, he, however,
(27:48):
has received a letter from the police basically saying we
need to interview you as part of our ongoing investigation
into alleged breaches of Public Order Act conditions. On the Saturday,
the eighteenth of January. What does that mean? Well, it
was a static rally and it was involving several thousand people.
It took place near government offices because the government and
(28:08):
the authorities decided to block the plans to hold the
march near the BBC headquarters in the sort of central
north of London. Police said these conditions were clearly communicated
to those taking part in the protest that they should
remain in Whitehall and then they go on. Despite this,
a large number made its way into Trafalgar Square and
in some cases attempted to go further. So those must
(28:30):
be we believe the allegations. But of course we're hearing
now from the actor that he believes the right to
protest in the UK is under attack.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Kevin, I thank you. The time is our t Intersex,
Well he did it. Donald Trump has paused all military
aid into Ukraine. This comes just days after his roun
with Zelenski in the Oval Office. White House officials have
noted the poors could be lifted if Zelenski shows a
new commitment to peace talks with Russia. I'm joined again
by Mettterrell, who joined us a couple of weeks ago.
(29:01):
Marco Rubio's former campaign manager, Hello, Man's.
Speaker 12 (29:06):
Very great to be with youre hey.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Look, so a day i go Zelenski said he'd signed
the minerals deal. Last night the Prime Minister of Ukraine
said that signed the military deal. They're saying this because
they're comfortable with the security guarantees that Europe is offering.
So why is America punishing him again?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Well?
Speaker 12 (29:22):
Quick correct cruestion of my title is the chief of
staff from Mark Roots presential campaign in twenty sixteen. Is
just quick correction there. But great to be with you again,
and I'll just say that, you know, look, I mean
what we're seeing right now today shape is on the
heels of the Friday meeting between President and Lensky, President Trump.
You know, President Trump feeling there's always taken the action
that he sees fit to pause this military aid, if
(29:46):
you will, This is US aid to Ukraine. And I
think at this stage right now, the real question everyone
has is what happened next. I think right now we're
going to just pause and wait and see. But certainly
I think right now President Trump has been very transparent,
very clear about what he expects, and that is that
he wants to bring peace to this war. He campaigned,
(30:06):
I'm bringing peace to this war and he campaigned on
doing it in a negotiated way, and I think right
now where this administration is at is that they felt
that this agreement would have been a good deal economically,
not just for both Ukraine and the United States, but
also in its own right with service and security guarantee.
So we'll see what happens here. We're seeing a lot
of moving parts, of course takes shape here, but pausing
(30:26):
that aid is something that's obviously breaking news and frankly
nothing that people should be too shot by giving how
that meaning went on Friday.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Okay, what's the reaction mean like in the United States
of America because our Americans struggling with some of the
concisions that the prisident Trump is making to Russia.
Speaker 12 (30:43):
Well, I think a lot of Americans first and foremost
viewing this. You know, if you look at the recent
polling on this, the vast majority of Americans over seventy
percent of Americans want this war to end. And look,
the reality is, I think Americans recognize that there's anthy
concessions on both sides, but you can't get there in
terms of discussing those concessions unless you bring the necessary
parties to the negotiating table and then clues Presidents Lensky
(31:06):
being on the negotiating table, but also President Putin. And
what your senior administrations say most recently is that they
feel as though this war is a war of attrition
and the only way to end it is to get
both parties, Presidence Lenski and President Putin to the negotiating table.
I think the administration has been clear that you know
you're going to have to likely see concessions on both
sides here, but you don't know what those will look
(31:27):
like until you negotiate, until you have discussions. And that's
where I think the administration is at want to get those
discussions going. Bullt by President Putin as well as by
Presidents of Ski.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Well, Matt, and I'm sorry the chief of stuff the
fore my chief of stuff Marco Rubio's campaign is that correct?
Speaker 12 (31:42):
Yeah, so appreciate that if I make sure the title
is accurate. But all good.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's okay, oh good, and thank you for joining us today.
That's Matt Terrell and it is now saveing minutes to six.
Used to be.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
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Speaker 3 (32:04):
Be Yeah, it's five to six. Thank you for your text, Steve,
and I probably agree with you. Vance was probably talking
about peacekeeping forces and not some random country. It probably
wasn't the UK make Hoskins in studio. And you've got
Winston Peter's.
Speaker 14 (32:16):
Yeah do yeah, I do. So we'll find out. I
sort of want to, funnily enough, want to talk about
the Chinese more than I do about the fairies. To
be perfectly frank, I am only interested in the fairies
to the extent because we talked to the Prime Minister
about it yesterday and he didn't know the answer. If
they go with Hyundai, do you get rid of most
of the three hundred million? And you'd have to think
you would, wouldn't you. And so that then turns out
(32:39):
to be quite a good deal. So not only aren't
you spending three plus billion, you're not even paying a
cancelation fee, and you're getting what you wanted in the
first place.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Sure enough. My whole thing about this is it's the
ships are just the minor part of the whole deal.
It's the wolf side that's going to cost so much more.
Speaker 14 (32:54):
Not necessarily, because if you get the right ships, you
don't need to do much wolf side. I think that's
part of the problem. I mean, part of the three
pl plus billion was most of it turned out to
be all the stuff you had to do on the land.
The ships themselves were only half a billion dollars, so
that was the problem. So if you can get a
ship that you don't need anything done wolf side, then
not only do you not play a break fee, you
save yourself hundreds of millions of not billions of dollars.
(33:15):
And Winston can go look what I did.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
He's not going to tell you any of this, is
he I'm not sure, but I'm going to be well
it is marchand that he's got to come days.
Speaker 14 (33:25):
He's got a couple of weeks. And the other interesting
thing about the report that got put out yesterday was
one they should have negotiated harder last year when they
got told this is Nicola Willis's problem. Of course, the
other side of it is there are several companies that
have been redacted, so I mean it's competitive. So anyway,
we'll talk to him about that. But I really want
to talk about the cooks and Chinese and stuff, So
we'll do.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
All of that more. Dolly's husband done. Yeah, very sad,
wasn't it? Very sad?
Speaker 14 (33:47):
The wishy, the wishy washy. If you didn't know about
the wishy washy the laundromat, you couldn't make that.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
You couldn't.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
I mean, that's so Nashville, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
It's a great story, good stuff, and I thank you.
My name is Andrew Dickins, made thanks to produce a
kensing and we'll be back again tomorrow. Have a great, great.
Speaker 13 (34:02):
Day some somehow.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
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