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May 5, 2025 • 33 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Tuesday 6th of May 2025, A Government delegation has landed in New Delhi for the first round of talks towards a FTA between India and New Zealand, India New Zealand Business Council Chair Bharat Chawla tells Ryan Bridge how we should approach a deal. 
 
New figures from Stats NZ show our livestock numbers are falling, Federated Farmers Meat & Wool Chair Toby Williams tells Ryan whether or not we should be worried. 

A brand new alliance of fifteen tourism organisations is hoping to attract more overseas visitors to North island destinations, Northland INC Head of Destination Tania Burt shares her thoughts.

Plus Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio has the latest on The mushroom murder trial entering its sixth day.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
an early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be good morning. It is six half to five
exciting times. We've got a trade mission landing in New
Delhi this week. Sticking points on that before six this morning,
so called political scandals coming out our ears this morning
we'll get across those. Donald Demo and Australia Elbow has
been on the blower a Trump. Our reporters are around
the country as they always are, and bed farmers on

(00:33):
the new livestock numbers out Where have all the sheep gone?
We'll find out the agenda Tuesday, the sixth of May.
Good morning to you. Trump threatening movies with tariffs with
a post on truth social by do.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
People argue that Hollywood is not doing badly and that
you may actually do more damage than good with something like.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
This because it could push production cars.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
And then that means fewer movies would be able to
get meat.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
And move over, Mark Mitchell. Trump also reopening Alcatraz.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Donald Trump is at the first president to suggest potentially
opening it.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
President Reagan considered it in nineteen eighty one, but as
I say, it's just massively impractical.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
The Diddy jury selection kicks off, as this is sex
trafficking trial, potential jurors being asked if they have any
history of sexual assault or rather trauma and if they
could be impartial.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It moves much faster in federal court than it does
in stake court, so I can you can expect a
jury by the end.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Of the week. Finally, in the UK, V Day Street
parties are being held at Buckingham Palace in Downing Street
to mark eighty years since World War II ended in Europe.
The Royal family watching the red Arrows fly over the Palace.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
The Red Arrows roar over the mau with their red,
white and blue smoke trails. The Royal family will now
spend the afternoon with veterans, remembering their comrades, reflecting on
that hard fought victory.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
And that is your agenda. Eight after.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and one roof Make your Property search Simple News
Talk said.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Be nine two the number to text. Grant says Trump
doing what he said he'd do. I don't think he
mentioned his tariffs on movies, did he. Anyway, He's cocked
and loaded the tariff gun again, this time American movies
made outside America. In his sights, you have the gift
of foresight.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
Tell me what you have seen is not coming back, says,
have to hope they were hard.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
There's nothing for your here, probably dolarised.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So the question is where the movie is like this,
the Lord of the Rings which have been made here,
would still be made here with a one hundred percent
tariff wept on the top of them. The answer is no.
Would this be bad for New Zealand? Yes, Canada, the UK,
the Aussies, hungry Italy, We're all in the same boat.
We're all packing our pants. In case he's actually serious

(03:08):
about this one, Houston, we have a problem. We get
around three and a half billion dollars mostly from foreign
films being made here. We do rather well out of this,
thank you very much. That's one percent of our GDP.
But think about all those iconic scenes, the tourism. You
can't put a price on this stuff. People love movies,
People love beautiful places, which is why people like shooting

(03:30):
movies in New Zealand. Right, Trump says, countries like ours
have been stealing their movie making capabilities. We've been destroying
Hollywood in the process. Think Miramar and Wellington right, and
you might think, oh, here he goes again with his nonsense.
But he's actually got a point because this free trade, loving, open, fair,

(03:52):
competitive little country has a not so secret secret subsidies you.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
Whatever the truth, you can't handle the.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Truth and the truth. Our government pays hundreds of millions
of dollars each year in subsidies to foreign movie producers.
The idea is to do exactly what Trump said, We've done,
steal an industry from America. So while the tariffs on
sheep and beef and mostly everything else, our bonkers are

(04:23):
not based on any sound economic argument or reality. With films,
they are the end. Ryan Bridge on news Talks, he'd
be just gone eleven after five with lovely views on
that coming up next the North Island trying to steal
all the tourists.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
News and views you trust to start your day is
early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Room, Make your
Property Search Simple news talks.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
They'd be thirteen minutes after five news talks. They'd be
We'll get to the tourism in just the second Police
commission A former police commissioner should say, Mike Bosh, he's
got a new gig. Have you seen this? So he
was the one in char charge when we had the
christ Church terror attacks. You remember him from Facadi, White Island.
He's the one that slicks his hair back with too
much bill cream. Anyway, he's going to be top cop

(05:09):
at Victoria State Police. Over in Australia. It's it's thirteen
minutes after five now, Bryan. Two figures from stats ends
that our livestock numbers are falling twenty one percent drop
in sheep over the past decade. That's down to twenty
three point six million. Dairy cattle numbers dropped thirteen percent,
while beef cattle held steady. Toby Williams Meat and wheelchair

(05:30):
at fed Farmers with me this morning. Toby, Good morning
morning Ryan.

Speaker 8 (05:34):
How are you pretty good? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Now the reason really what this is about is there's
less grassland for the animals on to farm on right, yea.

Speaker 8 (05:43):
It's all about land use change. And we've seen with
the forestry of sheep and beef and then dare you've
gone to horticulture and housing.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I saw that kiwi fruit was up thirty two percent
increase in land used for kiwi fruit. So we are
switching in some ways that that's a good thing.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
It is, and people should be free to choose what
land you best suits the land have got, whether it's horticulture,
whether it's you know, dairy farming, or sheep and beef
or forestry for that matter. Our big concerns really lie
around the reduction and sheep numbers has been driven not
so much because forest is a better land use in
some cases it is, but as the carbon market that's

(06:22):
really driving that forward, because you get much more returned
from the carbon the eaty s tracket than you do
from she's beef.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Is there a number twenty three point six million sheep
in New Zealand right now in a twenty one percent
drop over the past decade. Is there a number below
which the industry starts to sort of cave in on itself.

Speaker 8 (06:43):
Yeah, I think we're almost already there. We've seen the
challenges of alliance are having in terms of profitability and
be able to keep plants open and clothes's cell plant
and tomoru. So we're starting to see that really tipped
now as we need some capacity there in our processes
to be able to make sure that in droughts and
go that we can actually process and at peak times
we can process all the animals. How we still need

(07:06):
our plants to be efficient and you know, running at
a capacity and at those big plants now because are
really struggling to get the numbers of sheep through and
this winter is going to be a real tough one
for all of our processes. We're looking at being close
to a million lamps less to process this year than
what we had last year.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
The hard thing is you can't It's very difficult to
unfart with forestry, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (07:30):
Yeah, it is, And you know the government's made sort
of the right moves to try and put some limits
on it if there's announcements, but there's still loopholes there
that are enabling people to convert their better quality land
into pine trees. But ultimately what we need to ze
Ryan is a change to the ETU settings to better
balance our emissions as well as our production of food,

(07:52):
because we aren't seeing a demand for extra timber and
thirty years time, as much as the Green Party had
the announced gavdating and a build nice.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Sense, did you know what? Don't even talk about it, Toby,
because it's just such fanciful nonsense. Appreciate your time. Hey,
yes or no? Quick, yes or no from you, Toby.
And it's a hard one. Should we pull out of Paris?

Speaker 8 (08:13):
Well that's a really hard one personally. Yeah, I think
you know we should be a yeah possibly all right, Yeah,
appreciate more information.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Ryan, Appreciate your time, Toby, Toby Williams meet and wolchair
fed farmers with us this morning, bright and early six
after sorry, sixteen minutes after five now news talks here'b.
I've always thought, you know, as a country, we produce, yes,
we have the higher methane emissions blah blah blah blah blah,
but we feed something like forty million people. We're a
country of five million that feeds forty million. Surely that's

(08:43):
going to count for something. We'll get to the tourism
seventeen after five next.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Ryan Bridge on early edition with one roof to make
your property search simple, Youth talk zibby.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Five nineteen, Good morning to you. We'll get to donn
and tomorrow. Out of Australia, Trump and Elbow have had
a call. Apparently Trump said he didn't have any idea
who Dutton was, which you can't know every leader already
or potential contender for a prime ministership around the world Canyon.
That's probably fair enough. So we'll talk to Donal tomorrow
out of Australia. And some great news that this free

(09:15):
trade deal negotiations talks are kicking off in Ernest and
New Dalhi. We've got a team heading that way. That's
just before six Bridge, a brand new alliance, a conglomerate
you could save fifteen tourism organizations. They're hoping to attract
more overseas visitors to the North Island of New Zealand.
So when you get all your foreigners coming in at

(09:35):
Auckland Airport, they want to steal them and keep them
in the North Island. Tannia Bird's head of destination at
North and inc with me this morning, Tanna, good morning,
good morning. You want to steal them all and keep
them for yourself?

Speaker 9 (09:48):
Oh why not? We need more international visitors?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Why not? Yes? So where do they normally go? Because
it depends on who they are, right, but generally speaking,
they come into Auckland, go to Hobbiton, they go to
they jump on a plane down to Queenstown and then
they're out. Is that about fear?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (10:07):
You've probably answered the golden roots question. So where do
the majority of international visitors go. We do have them
dispersed throughout the country, but when it comes to a
region like ours, the only region north of Auckland, of
course they have to make a very intentional decision to
turn the other direction and add that into their trips.
So for us, we only get around twenty to thirty

(10:29):
percent of our visitation is international.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
The rest is domestic. So hence the need to all
work together to.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Make sure that those international visitors are better dispersed throughout
the country, throughout the island, and also to make sure
that we get more because everyone needs a few more visitors.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I was having a beer at the Duke of Marlborough
a couple of weeks ago, which I seem to do
a lot these days, and we're speaking to the owner.
He said, actually, he's had one of his best summers
ever because we've had a lot more American tourists and
Americans are more inclined to go up to Northland than say,
you're Chinese visitors.

Speaker 9 (11:05):
Yes, yes, he's absolutely correct.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
A bear the joke is always a good idea as well,
so we support that and this new collective of organizations
working together will target Australia, America and primarily China. Those
are the first three markets that will target. So yes,
the American visitors are really important visitors. They do come,

(11:28):
they do come to spend as well, and they do
come to see and do so they're.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
A really good visitor, especially for Northland.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
So this summer we have seen a little bit of
an uptick of international visitors. We're heading back towards you know,
pre twenty twenty numbers and seeing some strengths come through
from America. So that's really good news for us and
we're happy to keep growing that.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
So what are you actually going to do to get
them to where you want them to go?

Speaker 7 (11:54):
So the idea behind this new MoU that was signed yesterday,
the MoU who is between all North Island regional tourism
organizations so fifteen organizations and supported by Auckland Airport, Wellington
Airport and Hamilton Airport, so our international airports. The idea
is that we have more direct to consumer, more trade

(12:18):
activity happening offshore and in these markets to convince and
to change those booking patterns and to convince people that North.

Speaker 9 (12:26):
Island is the place to come.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
So it's really about investing ourselves in activity offshore.

Speaker 9 (12:32):
We'll go along with Tourism.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
New Zealand's events as well, and Tourism New Zealand do
support this collective initiative. So it's about North Island coming
together and going together to market and.

Speaker 9 (12:44):
It will just be a stronger proposition with us all
there together.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Interesting, Tanya, appreciate your time this morning, Tanya. Burt Northland
and head of Destination, but part of this group from
the North Island trying to get desperate to get the
tourists to stay here. Nice if they also went to
the South Island, but if they can stay longer in
the North and that's obviously the goal for them. Twenty
three minutes after five, News Talk said, b if you
heard about all these political scandals in the last twenty

(13:10):
four hours, I'll tell you about the next See.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio Power by News Talks.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
AV five twenty five Good Morning News Talk said, be
on the news last night it was nothing but scandal, scandal, scandal.
I don't think I've seen political misconduct of this magnitude
since Watergate, the Woodwood and Burnstein's of our time busy
digging through documents, uncovering truth, protecting democracy from corruption from

(13:40):
evil Ericus Stanford, Ministry of Education and obvious crook. First
in the firing line, her crime printing off work emails
at home disgraceful, Absolutely disgraceful. A two part report from
One News letting the bulletin over consecutive nights, details how
this menace flagrant in her disregard for best practice, printed

(14:03):
papers from her home computer after emailing them to her
own private email address. Why I hear you ask such
an egregious act, Well, it turns out, and this is
where the story gets really interesting. Parliamentary I hadn't hooked
up a printer in her office or her home, so
instead of ignoring her immense workload, switching off the computer

(14:24):
and going to the pub like any decent politician, she
emailed them to herself, printed them off, and worked late
into the night. Outrageous are the documents other emails exclusively uncovered,
the existence of which made possible because the minister flagged
them with officials for inclusion in future OAA requests like

(14:44):
the one we're now looking at. So brazen and flatting
the rules, she thought she'd never get caught shameless, just shameless.
One reporter noted Stanford was quote safe for now. It's
at least on par with them. The heg Seth signal
chat scandal Kitty Allen drunk driving then crashing a ministerial

(15:05):
car before resisting arrest pails into comparison. But how much
worse can this scandal get for Stanford? We must wait
for part two this evening, of course. The next minister
in the firing line was Matt Doocey mental health and
this story is crazy. He should be locked up like
crooked Hillary. His crime worse than lying. The newsreader told

(15:28):
us the accusation was wait for it, massaging the message.
Massaging the message. It's a new charge, but thought to
be very, very, very serious. Some pages detailing a workforce
shortage were removed from a glossy ministerial booklet that went
out to the public. There was one small problem with
this future Pulleit Serprize winner. The problem, as cameras beared

(15:53):
down as his crimes were read aloud, was Doocey had
no idea. What the reporter was talking about was old
mate Lester Levy. It was Levy's fingerprints over this one
not Deucey's. But he's already on the way out, So
where's the fun in getting him on camera shackling him
to the pillory for a flogging? So it was Doocey
in the dock last night. The best part about this

(16:15):
expose it came with its very own deep throat yes
and insider whose secret cash of draft documents blew the
story wide open. That person ingrid Leary from the Labor
party case closed. It's a knockout, it's a slam dunk.
Both ministers must be sacked immediately. I welcome this kind

(16:39):
of examination because people have got to know whether or
not they're President's a crook.

Speaker 9 (16:44):
Well, I'm not a crook.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I've earned everything I've got, Ryan Bridge, minutes after five
year new Storks V. Great to have your company. After news,
we'll get to our reporters right around the country and
Donna de Mayo is across the Tasman.

Speaker 10 (17:02):
Sometimes miss you, Sometimes I just kidding.

Speaker 11 (17:23):
You haven't.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
The news you need?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
This morning and the in depth analysis early edition with
Ryan Bridge and one roof Make your Property Search Simple,
Youth Talks it b Would you.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
Would Good morning?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Twenty four minutes away from six. You're on news Talks B.
It is Tuesday, the sixth of my great to have
your company by coming up. We will talk FTA with India.
We will talk to Donald Demor out of Australia. Now
all Af Schultz outgoing Chancellor of Germany. He's from the
Social Democrat. He's one of the lefties, basically lefty leaving office.
Now going back to the sixteenth century Chancellor's pecker song, well,

(18:14):
three songs actually that they would like to leave office
to a farewell ceremony is held. One of the songs
he's decided to go with, bizarrely and inexplicably to the
German population is Aretha Franklin's respect all of it, where

(18:37):
no one really knows why. That's the other thing. And
he was there for such a short period of time,
especially following Angelo and Merthle, so I mean clearly that
he didn't have a lot of respect from the German people,
did he? Because Meers is on his way in twenty
three away from six brand just get two reporters around
the country, columns in duned and certain rescue teams continuing

(18:58):
to look for a hiker in Milford.

Speaker 12 (19:00):
Soundclum, Yes, Ryan, please say that this hiker had gone
out in the miight at peak area and have failed
to return home on Sunday nights. A few other details
are available other than that, but search of its began
yesterday morning, including the use of a helicopter, and there
has been no updates since then. Whether in Milford Sound

(19:21):
overnight was relatively mild, temperatures getting down to seven there
are showers forecast in the area later today.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
And what about Dunedin's weather generally generally good today fine
light wins and sixteen for us brilliant Colm, thank you
Closchew and christ your clear good morning.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Now classical music. I didn't realize they played this at your.

Speaker 13 (19:39):
Bus stop at the bus interchange in the city, Ryan,
that's right. This trial of classical music playing through that
interchange began in February and to the council have now
decided they'll extend that through until the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
The idea is.

Speaker 13 (19:53):
They play these symphonies and some operas as well, and
it's to discourage people, particularly young people and antisocial people
from lingering outside the building in the city.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
So it seems to work.

Speaker 13 (20:06):
Facilities Operation Manager Brendan Cowe says, although it's too early
to specifically identify a trend, the feedback does indicate that
it is reducing the anti social behavior. So this is
one of several initiatives and for now it will continue interesting.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
The art is the Tonic clear House.

Speaker 13 (20:23):
Your weather mainly found a bit of frost about early today.
Northeasternly is developing later and a higher fifteen.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Excellent max is and Wellington Max good morning, Good morning.
Now Victoria law students told to put their laptops away
for exams.

Speaker 14 (20:38):
Yeah, a good story in the post this morning. Victoria
University essentially conceding here they haven't yet figured out an
answer to protect against AIAI cheats, chat, GPT etc. Too
great risk apparently with law students using laptops in exams,
So three hundred level students having to go back to
handwritten papers a lot of who I'm not happy about this.

(21:02):
They haven't written an exam for one thing in five
six seven years since high school. An Auckland law lecturer
has weighed in. He advocates laptops at Auckland University's law school.
He says, pretty much because the whole course is done
on my laptop. It only seems fair to run exams
that way, not the way Victoria sees it.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Interesting. How do they make sure that no one's cheating?

Speaker 14 (21:24):
Just well, I mean that's the point. In terms of
using laptops, they can't. They say there's no safeguard against
AI tools basically right. Oh yeah, you'd think take them off,
whereas you can just keep an eye on someone with
a pen and paper.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, no, exactly, old school Max.

Speaker 14 (21:42):
How's your weathery? Cloudy periods, a little bit of drizzle
this athurnoon sixteen, the high Central.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
You have a great day, Neavas and Auckland the a
good morning.

Speaker 15 (21:49):
Greetings.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Now a new recycling initiative underweight turning old bumpers into fencing.

Speaker 15 (21:54):
It's it so look the Motor Trade Association's Plastic to
Echo program will see vehicle waste collected from participating collision
repairers then repurpose. This is by way recycling business which
is called future post so MTA sector manager, that's Larry Fallowfield.
He says they've got five collection cages already in use.

(22:17):
They've got twenty four more coming this week because they're
obviously going to be massive. Forty Auckland businesses are expected
to take part and the scheme stretching down hopefully to
the South Island by next year.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
So bumpers like car bumpers.

Speaker 15 (22:31):
Yeah, car bumpers and another plastic waste. So they'll be
you know, like collected from these specially designed cages and
then they're going to be repurposed as fence products.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
That's cool, It's very cool. I noticed actually on my
car yesterday that the front trying to describe a car,
it's not it's not the bumper. I'm terrible. Let's go
around further to the wheel, the front right wheel above
above that.

Speaker 15 (22:58):
Hey, we need to talk to Mike. We do, Mike, Okay,
I'm picturing it, yestre.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Above the wheel, that's right wheel. There's a there's a
big scrape on there. What And I got my car
cleaned a couple of days ago, so it's happened within
the last couple of days. Really, Yeah. And what I
want to know is whether, because of the angle of it,
it looks like something I've done, right. I just want
someone to come and tell me whether that's me or
whether that's someone else who's parked next.

Speaker 15 (23:24):
Isn't it is it? Is it a big scrape?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Or is it not really? I spat on it and
made it worse and sort of scrubbed it up.

Speaker 15 (23:32):
You know what, though, you should double check to make
sure that it wasn't someone at the INSI and me
inside the basement in the garage, and it was. It
wasn't someone like Mike Oskin who parked next to you.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Jenny, Genny was Jenny. She is terrible whether hell, I.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Just thought too.

Speaker 15 (23:51):
She's getting she's having an operation done on her eyes as.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Well this week.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
True story.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
There you go, there we go.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, I'll just send it the bell, go on, do it.

Speaker 15 (24:01):
Fine, light wins nineteen's high today, she's.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Going life seventeen away from six News talks. They'd be
we'll get to Donald tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business quarter.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
To six on news talks. They'd be, we'll get to
Indian New Zealand Business Council will cheer in just a
second that FTA talks kicking off this week in New Delhi.
Right now, Donald tomorrow out of Australia, Donna, good morning,
good morning to you. Now Elbow's got a real spring.
This step obviously back in Canberra and had a chat
with Trump. How'd that go?

Speaker 11 (24:39):
Yes, he's confirmed he had a warm and positive convers
with the US president. Now we know about the weekend's
crushing election win for labor and he's had congratulatory calls
from Quam by the way, and he had this chat
with Trump, and he said they talked about UCAS, and
they talked about tariffs, and he said, will continue to

(25:01):
engage with each other and perhaps even engage each other
with each other on a face to face basis at
some time in the future. Now we're thinking that's probably
going to be at the G seven in Canada in June.
So Albo said it was a very warm chat and
he thanked him for reaching out in such a positive way.
What we did think was very interesting was earlier Trump
had praised his relationship with Albanize. He had a chat

(25:22):
with the Sydney Morning Herald and he said, I don't
know anything about the election other than the man that won,
and that he's very good. But he also and I quote,
I have no idea who the other person is that
ran against him. Everyone was wildly amusing, and that is
Peter Dutton, who sadly as we know lost his Brisbane

(25:45):
seat of Dixon sadly for him, of course, after that
stunning election win and he was defeated by a woman
called Ali France, the first person in Australi in history
to ouston opposition leader from their own seat.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Now the mushroom murder trial, everyone's watch the course. So
we're going to hear from these strange husband and some
online friends.

Speaker 11 (26:04):
Yes, so we know that Aaron Patterson is charged with
killing three people by serving them a meal containing poisonous mushroom.
Her defense lawyer says the deaths were a tragic accident,
but the ups and downs of Aaron and her estranged husband,
should say, have come under examination in court. It's the
second week of the trial and the court is also

(26:28):
heard from Facebook friends, this true crime group group that
said that she seemed to really like mushrooms, her friends
have said to the court, and that she shared pictures
of a food dehydrate this deadly lunch that she hosted
at her home way back in July twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Also her.

Speaker 11 (26:49):
That her husband was controlling, that she was in a
controlling marriage and worsip that's what she confided.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
To leave it there, I think the line's a bit
bad on and tomorrow. Our Australia correspondent with us this morning.
That trial continues sixth day today it is twelve away
from six Brian Bridge. Good news for New Zealand trade, well,
potentially good news for New Zealand trade. We've got a
government delegation landing in New Delhi this week for the
first round of talks towards an FTA. They're a market

(27:19):
of one point four billion people. I don't need to
tell you that. Notoriously tough on ft as they are though.
Barrett's Charla is with us. He's India NZ Business Council chair.
Good morning, Good morning, How are you very well? Thank you? Now,
how are these talks going to work? Because there's a
framework which Australia used, which we're apparently going to piggyback

(27:40):
off the back off, Is that right?

Speaker 16 (27:42):
I think, yeah, this is what It'll make it easier
also because in the framework of dealing with Australia or
Hia region, which makes easier for New Zealand to follow
or I think Indian would follow that if.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I'm not wrong. We want a better deal than the
Aussie though, don't.

Speaker 16 (27:57):
We Yeah, we want a better deal than ASSI. The
simple as a right, what.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Are we going to do to get at what are
the big what are the big prizes we've got because
obviously we want dairy right which is which is well,
what are the big prizes that they want from us?

Speaker 16 (28:12):
I didn't go in their wants detached in their once
primary industry including ki fruit and which I said, the
dairy provides a lot of support. Also it's in terms
of the infessional sealums and not and at at the
same time, yes, must looking for more of the people
to invest in India.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Also, what about because I saw the CEO of Sadima
Hotels the other day talking about visas you know visas
for Indian workers but now being processed in New Zealand
because of worries about scams and India slowing things down
making it harder. Would that be a little fruit we
could dangle.

Speaker 16 (28:48):
I totally agree Ran. If you see when we went
to India we have immigration and education are CEOs or
a kind of high officials. It does. So we are
expecting ah, with this FDA, the people movement would become easier,
and that is what Indian government always wants. With any FDA,
they do and if you see if New Zealand also

(29:11):
they want resus to be seen line to make sure
that the numbers increase. Multifolds committed a much better deal.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, good stuff, Barrat Charl. I really appreciate your time
this morning, India New Zealand Business Council Chair. That delegation
from New Zealand off to New Delhi this week, which
has got to be a good thing. Nine minutes away
from Sexier on news Talks thereb and she just before
you get there. Despite all the Trump tariff, the greasy
wheels of free trade keep turning. So, despite the tariffs,

(29:40):
despite the talk about the movies this morning, look no
further than these numbers on our EU deal we signed
it a year ago. In that time, exports to the
EU from New Zealand up twenty eight percent. That's from
three point eight billion dollars to more than four point
eight billion dollars. This is good for our sheep farmers,

(30:00):
it is good for our Kiwi fruit growers, it's good
for all of us. News Talk Shad Bee.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
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Speaker 2 (30:14):
News Talk Zibb seven away from six News talk s
head Bee. It's all kicking off in the Middle East again.
This is in Gaza, net and Yah who says this
time will be different. He says it will be intensive,
but it will be different. The reason is instead of
the soldiers, the Israeli soldiers going into Gaza, launching raids
and then retreating back to Israel, he says, the intention

(30:36):
is the opposite. Instead, we're just going to move the
entire populations of areas and go in there once they're gone,
and then come out totally. That'll make it safer. Mike
is here with us next. Mike, good morning. Well, what
happened with the River Era? Well, that's a good point.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Weren't they going to leave anyway? They'd want to leave
to go to other lovely places, and once they got
to the lovely place, then they were going to build
the River Era and then they were going to be
able to live there happily. Ever after, what happened to that?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Right, Well, I think that will exist in the same
world where Trump is pope.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
It's a very good headline this morning. Trump needs to
deal in desperately because all of his promises, none of
them I'm just watching him talking about the movies. He's
correct to say, we'll be talking about the movie industry here,
because funnily enough, John Key's on the program this morning.
Do you remember John Key did the original deal, He
did the Lord of the Rings deal. And I always
remember Jackson and co. Turned up in government limousines to

(31:31):
Premier House in Wellington and that was the whole. And
I always had this back and forward with Stephen Joyce,
because you open up an industry and you go and
they go, oh, but look at Ireland, look at India.
You know we've got to compete. We've got to give
tatis protectionism. It's a protectionism, It's exactly what it is.
And I said, well, if you open up at twenty percent,
then when they go to twenty five percent, you matched
them at twenty eight. Where's the race to the bottom?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
More disappoint Trump has a point that Hollywood has been
hollowed out, and I've gone to Mirrorma exactly right.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
That's where that's the fascination with Trump because every now
and again, and this is an example, he's right. And
as for.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Alcatra, have you been to Elka? Now? I haven't. I
wish i'd been before the prisoners.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
This is the thing I'm I'm I hate being a tourist.
I'm not a tourist. But there's two things in the
world I've been to that.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
I thought, Now, do you get dressed up nicely? If
you are a tourist, would you go to Alcatraz looking nicely?
Of course?

Speaker 17 (32:27):
Well, of course, Well what sort of questions that you
couldn't just say, I'm just trying to picture you as
a it's cold on the fairy so you need an
you need a nice cashmere scarp.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Anyway, there are two things I've seen as a tourist.
One that was worth going to. One was the Vatican
because that's that blows your mind. And the other one
was was Alcatraz. And I thought, alcatrav what a waste
of my time because you've got a cue.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Both prisons and their own right.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, but well in a funny way, but the Alcatraz
experience is absolutely fantastic. And no they don't. But it's
so sophisticated, knowlogically, it's like being there. It's incredible. It's
well worth doing, which is a shame because if he
turns it into a real prison again, that experience is
all over. It's gone. I'll never see it in my
day's main So when you I got around to working

(33:11):
in John Key, who's on the program.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Erica Stamford's coming on directly after seven to resigned because
of the.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Tears. It's outrageous, all right, Mike's next. Have a great
day everyone, cinamonon.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Do Know I Will Care Home.

Speaker 16 (33:38):
We today of fifty five years down the road.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
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