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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens on
an earlier edition with ex pole insulation keeping Kimi Holmes
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good morning to you and welcome to the programs. So today,
in the next sixty minutes, kids are still wagging school
despite a government that announced it had to stop. So
what's really happening in the classroom, more more importantly, what's
happening outside the classroom? We'll have that story for you.
In five Liam Lawson crashed on the first lap. England
is playing India in cricket and Argentina in rugby, and
(00:33):
oh that's right, the All Black's got a bit of
a scare. We'll have Andrew Ordison on sport and ten
we'll talk about the return of a pop star who's
done the hard yards. He's coming back to New Zealand
and the government's thinking about minimum sentences. Will have Jason
Walls just before six. All these stories plus correspondence from
what from the UK, also from One around New Zealand
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at News as it breaks and you can text me
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He can email me Dickens at news talks at bt
CO dot and Zed It's great to be with you.
It is now eight after five.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's Monday, the seventh of July. At least sixty eight
people have been killed after flash floods swept through parts
of central Texas. Here's the Kerryville County Sheriff, Larry Leitha.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Among those who are deceased, we have thirty eight adults
and twenty one children. Eighteen adults pending identification and four
children are also pending identification. At present, there are eleven
Mystic campers unaccounted for, along with one counselor. We extend
our sincereous condolences and prayers for every single family affected
(01:42):
by this tragedy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So to the Middle East, Israel has decided to send
a delegation to Qatar for proximity talks with Hamas on
the latest proposal for a Gaza ceasefire and hostage release steel.
That comes as Netanyah to Netanyahu is set to meet
with Donald Trump on the u IS time.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I think we'll be watching very closely over today and
the coming days if they stay and if more senior
officials also join those talks. That will give us a
sense whether this is moving really forward with the momentum
that President Trump wants this time for there to be
and for there to be a breakthrough as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And as the Osborne's back Baby and Black Zebbath. They
came back on stage for their final Final, Final Final
gig in their hometown Birmingham, playing at Villa Park, very
first time the original members have performed together in twenty
years and this is what this is what they said
like at least the crowd was a good force, that's
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for sure. More on that a little bit later on.
It is now ten minutes after five U SAORCV.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
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Speaker 2 (03:27):
So on Friday our warner Saturday Night. It came true.
France were better than expected. We were worse with the
all backs scraping pass. Some said rustiness is the factor
in the all backs. I don't get that personally. We're
fresh off as Super Rugby season which saw international grade
football being played. There should have been no rustiness in
the players. If there's rustiness, it's in the game plan.
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And that's another thing, and that is on the coaching staff.
But you don't really criticize the coaches these days. The
French also came here right after their Top fourteen competition
and they showed that they've been playing high grade foot
be a footy this year. So I warned on Friday,
we all warned on Friday of the possibility that France
might be like the Baby Blacks of nineteen eighty six.
That was a great old team captain by David Kirk,
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included many green players, in fact, eleven eleven new players
because the old hands have been punished for the Cavaliers
to but yet they beat France eighteen nine in christ Church.
So this new French side, it's kind of similar. So
I'm going to call them the Baby La Blue. And
it's not the first time we've been scratchy in the
first Test and it's something really we need to solve
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these days. We need to hit out against ernest, but
lesser opposition might be a good idea. And last week
people were mentioning how much they missed the Possibles Versus
Probables games, which were the training matches for all Blacks
but also a chance for the second stringers to have
one more cracket and pressing the selectors. And they were
ding dong games and they cut the rust out. Now
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we can't really bring that game back. But I have
another idea. Why don't we organize a pre season game
between the All Blacks and the Maori All Blacks as
a precursor to their international seasons. It doesn't have to
be full noise, it doesn't have to be a big
money maker, and nor does it have to be in
the weekend. It could be a midweek feature at a
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funky venue like fung Are or maybe even County Mancow's
boutique ground and Pokacoe. It'd be a blast. It'd be
a load of fun. It will bring rugby back to
the grassroots and it might cut out the rust and
prevent the AB's having such dodgy first games.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
News Talk said, be kids.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Are still working school. The statistics are amazing. I'm going
to tell you those statistics in a few moments time.
But the government said no, we don't want this, and
they've got a fat wire against us. So why is
it still happening. We're going to talk to Joe Malcolm
Black She's the CEO of the Graham Dingle Foundation. They
are the charity that figured this all out. And she
is next on News Talks Here, b this is the hour.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
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earlier this ship with Padrew Dickins at X full Insulation
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Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's fourteen minutes after five. Some pretty grim numbers around
truancy out this morning. Around one thy one hundred and
ten students weren't enrolled in school for more than a
year in twenty twenty four. Two thirds of those ages
between twelve and fourteen years old. Students are put down
as no enrolled if their absence is unexplained for twenty
days or more so. Joe Malcolm Black is the CEO
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of the Graham Dingle Foundation. This is the charity that's
worried about all of this, and she joins me this morning.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Hello Joe, Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
This is pretty dire, isn't it. These kids aren't just wagging,
They are choosing not to be educated for a year.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
It is pretty worrying.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Why is it happening?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Wow? It's an interesting one obviously, at least since it
is a pretty tricky chime for young people. There are
lots of complex things happening in their lives. What we
are seeing at the Foundation, and we've noticed it since
after the twenty twenty guns, is that a number of
young people are flying under the radar. They're just becoming
less connected to their friends, they're learning, and their communities.
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And what that tends to do is that tends to
have a long impact normal things like not just on
things like confidence, anxiety, loss of direction, but it can
have a really negative long term impact on their well being,
their educational outcomes, and of course the futures.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
So what can start it.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Is something pretty small, massive impact on their lives.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It's not just the kid's choice here. The parents are complicent,
So why are they letting the kids get away with us?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Young people, if you've got some in your lives, are
complicated animals, and it is really hard to replace blame
entirely on parents or on students. What tends to happen
with young people at the stage is there are a
lot of complex things going a lot around that in
their lives that are needing to be managed. They will
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be dealing with developmental, social, emotional, and environmental factors. Sometimes
the parents just don't know, sometimes they do. Sometimes there
are complex things happening happening in their families. The best
way that you can turn this around, or the best
way that you can can change this from happening, is
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to try and engage early with young people. Can provide
consistent support about rege and that will reduce the risk
of of disengagement. It's really something you can start at five.
You can actually start it at four, things like building
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coping skills as preschoolers, but you can start it at
five with creating some fun, interact experiential sessions that help
young people stay connected. With the feedback we got during
COVID around some of our provo school cadsers how much
their attendance school happened. We know it attending here, we
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can classes. It's a habit that resiliences built. You are
born with some inateability, but you you augment that by help.
But they're learning their experience. This is not a child
doesn't wake up at five and say I've got to
disengage from school now. There is a whole lot of
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cumulative factors that cause that to happen. You can keep
them connected by staying alongside them and helping them learn
with their peers about why being engaged and connected to
their colleagues and connected to their schools, connected to their
communities is important.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Now, this was an election issue, so is the work
that the government doing on truancy working and what could
they do more?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
It is hard to say the stay Obviously, we really
support the government getting involved in this subject because it
will change the impact of how our next duration has grown.
So we think it's a really good thing to do.
What we advocate for is working towards community approaches that
really really does take your whole community. Obviously, supportive families
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and communities are important engagement of skilled teachers, but social
services and community organizations as well are important are important
to We will all create an environment that want to
stay connected to and parents support and the government feels
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as valid.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
All of those.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Things will create a social system that can make this
happen for us.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Jo American Black, I thank you so much for getting
up early for us and show as the CEO of
the Graham Dingle Foundation. And it is now five nineteen,
so let's be having you. The text number is ninety
two ninety two. I see, why don't we bring back well,
why don't we institute the All Backs against the Mardi
Allbacks is a preseason game to knock out the rustiness?
Is this a good idea? Is this not a good idea?
(11:14):
In speaking at sport, Andrew Ordison is with us next.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Andrew Dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation keeping
Kili homes warm and try this winter news talks at
be so Inger.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Versus India and cricket is over and so we've got
the full attention of Andrew Ordison. Finally this morning, good
oneing your Andrew.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Morning andrewing Not quite, I mean Australia Western. He's still
going on as well, So.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's never over in the cricket world. It's all Blacks
were rusty. France were better than expected. Actually I expected
them to be that good. To be fair. The top
fourteen's a brilliant competition. These are good players. I just said,
why don't we have a preseason hit out All Backs
versus Malory All Blacks in Pocacoe. This is like Old
North versus South day basketball versus probable Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(11:57):
those are the days with they karake. Yeah quite a
full on hit around, it'd be great, but we've got
to do something about the fact we always study every
season with a bad game.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah, I think France really did play out of their skins.
I thought it was a really enjoyable test actually, and
they were in it the whole way obviously. And yeah,
I think sometimes we the temptations to underestimate size and
particularly the French, I mean, given their record against New
Zealand over the years.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But I thought the New Zealand performance was okay.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
I mean, obviously the three TMO reversals, but there's just
a lack of discipline, Like you say, don't think. Yeah
they were, they were rusty. It's fair, a fair call,
but I suppose it takes a wee while to get
into actions.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So they moved to Wellington and we want revenge, yes, Cracker,
well yeah, yeah, bring on the UTU. Yeah exactly. You
forming the one today Silverstone. It rained a little bit
and Liam didn't even get through the first lap. And
what I thought was just ironic about that it was
a Yuki sin Node who forced Esteban Okhonn after the
(13:00):
left and slammed into the right of Liam and Liam
what the hell was that, yes.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Truck and trailer effect in Formula one, is it just
that knock on and your loss has gone before even
finishing the first lap, So I mean starting in fifteenth
towards the back of the grid anyway and leading iris
going on to infor McLaren. Likewise, with my teammate Oscar Piatra,
it's quite a duly at the front of Formula one,
isn't it. But I think one of the key facts
(13:24):
this morning, editor is Nika Holkenberg two hundred and thirty
eight forty to one starts, never been on the podium
and he's there this morning.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, exactly, so absolutely yeah. And Wimbledon last week was
the week the seeds fell. This this week is the
week we find out who will win.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Exactly it is and well Seberleinka looking particularly strong and
the women's draw she's through. Anastasia public Tenkov is through
this morning as well, so Lara Sigemund is another who's
made it through to those quarter finals. Taylor Fritz has
had a walk over over Jordan Thompson as well, and
the men's raw a couple more of those games still
cut this morning. Is we update you with with all
(14:02):
the action from each w iteen.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Great stuff, Nice to have you here. Five four. Yes
it is. Congestion pricing is coming. More on this in.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
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Speaker 2 (14:20):
At Me News Talks B five twenty seven. This is
early edition. I'm Andrew Dickens. So Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop
is in the United States for a range of meetings
across housing, planning, development and transport, and he's in fact
in New York right now to speak to city officials
about their congestion pricing. And that makes it seem as
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though congestion charges are inevitable in this country, and not
just for the basket case that is Auckland. I think
Totalager and Wellington will be in the firing line as well,
and the point about them is not just to ease
congestion on our roads, but it will be a white
lie to assertain that it's not a money maker as well.
So when not if Chris Bishop comes back and pulls
the place non congestion charges in this country, the question
(15:02):
is who will get the money? And I think it's
a no brainer that any money raised in a district
should be reinvested in that district. That's Wayne Brown's position
on the matter, and the legislation that has already been
proposed to do that says that, but never under estimate
a government's ability to hold on to any revenue, so
stay vigilant on this now. The other thing to note
about congestion charges overseas is that the cities that have
(15:25):
them have alternative transport options, you know, the underground or
the subway. Auckland CRL rail project means the city will
have an alternative, but introducing it elsewhere I'd like Teldonger,
maybe even Wellington would be unfair. And it's an irony
that the electorate's unwillingness to invest tax money into public
transport means that pressure is now mounting to take money
(15:48):
off them for congestion. And you know you can't escape tax,
and make no mistake about it, congestion pricing is a tax?
Is it a tax? Technically, taxes are used to raise
revenue for broad public spending. Congestion pricing designed to manage
demand and change behavior, But it's still the government taking
money off you. It feels like a tax, and therefore
(16:08):
it's a tax. So it would be very rich for
a national party to claim in the next election we
are not the party of taxation, and that just on
arrests only with the left wing. No, they're going to
tax us for driving on roads. And you know what,
I haven't met any politician from either side who actually,
in their heart of hearts doesn't like a good tax.
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But some are just too shy to admit it. Sid
I have a wonderful feel good story for you coming
up right after the news. It's a guy who's just
got the most magnificent voice, fantastic singer. But it's a
guy who stepped away from singing. In fact, he cancel
the concert tour of New Zealand. But now he's back
(16:52):
and I can tell you I should tell you after
the break, I'm going to tell you now he's coming back.
So who is it and when is he coming back?
That is on its way. Also Gavin Gray from the
UK and Jason Walls as Paul Goldsmith starts thinking that
minimums sentences are possibly a good idea. This is early edition.
I'm Andrew Dickens and for Bryan Bridge, he'll be doing
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the Drive show today. It's time for the fight that
he news ah been a sabbath.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis earlier this year, Andrew Dickens and x fol installation
keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter news talks in.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Me already, so's finn a good? Or to forget me,
I'm glad it kills Ji glad me and pray God
that you're never mad and for Agador magic genor Claudia Man.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But he's so good after all this time and is
the voice of English superstar good Lewis Capaldi. Now Lewis
is the guy who stepped away from touring and recording
because of a battle with mental illness, most noticeably terrets,
which ironically makes him a very entertaining stage show. The
(18:32):
old Turrets, he says some funny stuff, but he stepped away.
He in fact canceled a tour of New Zealand. But
at Glastonbury a week ago he made an emotional comeback
to the stage. He came out and he sang, and
he cried, and fifty thousand people cried and it was
triumphants and his voice was just as good as it's
always been. It was beautiful to see him back in.
Today it's announced he's coming back to New Zealand playing
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christ Church at Wolfbrook on Sunday, the thirtieth of November,
orkn Spark Arena Tuesday, the week of December. Tickets go
on sale Monday, July fourteenth. That's Vast Steel Day. Welcome back, Lewis,
You're a brave man. Meanwhile, we played some Black Sabbath
just before the news. The band did another final concert.
They've done them before twenty years ago. They did it again.
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They did a four song set on Saturday night at
Villa Park and Birmingham and before that Ozzy Osborne came
out and performed a brief solo set and it was hilarious.
He rose out of the stage sitting down on a
throne and the throne was decorated with bats and it
was a great gig. Guns and Roses played, Stephen Tyler played,
Sammy Hagar from Van Halen played. Allison Chains were there
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as well. It was a great gig. And one other
great gig over the weekend. Oasis is back. They played
in Cardiff in front of seventy thousand people, first time
they played together since two thousand and nine. And the
good thing about that the boys didn't hit each other.
It's twenty two to six said be around the country.
We go to Janet and Callum prok good morning to you,
(20:00):
Callum morning, Andrew and accolade for Otaga University.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Yeah, the institution's been ranked first for student performance amongst
New Zealand universities. So that maintains an unbroken record for
Otiger University, which stretches back more than a decade. Now,
this is the annual educational performance indicators. They examined course
and qualification completion rates, first year attention and progressions are
higher levels of study. So Otago ranks first for qualification
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completion and second for course completion and first year attention.
So that's the strongest result of any university. The Vice Chancellor,
Grant Robinson says these results are a testament to the
dedication of students and its staff.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
That's cool. Meanwhile, Dunedin's still cold.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
It is eleven the high today. Chance of a morning
shower nor easterly is developing here today.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Christ you as we go, clere, sure we are good
morning to you.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Does Air New Zealand want more international roots in and
out of christ Church?
Speaker 10 (20:54):
Wow, that's what we're trying to work out to Andrew
and in New Zealand is definitely not ruling it out
at this point. The Garden City, as we know, has
become a magnet for airlines recently. I've been here sharing
that Quantus, Singapore Airlines, China Southern have all increased their
capacity over summer. Our national carrier has also announced that
there's a christ Church to Adelaide route starting from October.
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It used to run a direct service to LA but
that was stopped in two thousand and six. The reason
for that at the time was financial downturn in New
Zealand's long haul manager, Kylie Migilvray Brown says launching new
routes does depend on several factors, including the likes of
customer demand, as well as fleet capacity and operational considerations.
She says though they are continuing to assess how christ
(21:37):
Church fits into the company's wider international strategy as the
fleet grows. And it's not warm and Canterbury today, No,
it's cloudy here, northeasteries particularly a bit later.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
And a high of nine.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Max told joins us from Willington. How Max, good morning,
We've got another baby death, this time in your region.
Speaker 11 (21:54):
Yeah, there's been a devastating space of baby related home
cases in the past few weeks that awful to discovery
in a wheely bin in Ponstanby included a thirty two
year old woman charged with interfering with human remains there.
Then we learned of serious fractures and breaks are suffered
by a three month old girl in the hud Valley.
She was taken to hospital by family last month, where
(22:15):
staff alerted authorities. Police notified us about that case last
week and now a homicide investigation also underway after the
death of a six month old found with critical injuries
at a house at Foxton Beach. Police have already spoken
to a number of people there and we'll liaise with
medical experts. How's your weather party, cloudy with light showers
(22:36):
today ten the high in Wellington talk can we go Nino?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Let him man a good morning to you morning injury.
So today auckn golfers find out where the half of
the Takapuna golf course could be turned into a swamp.
Speaker 12 (22:47):
Well, yes, an announcement will be made so yeah. The
council weighing up this redevelopment option so to improve vulnerability.
This is in the north Shore suburb of Milford. The
city council's considering two earning half that course as you're
saying to wetland to take on floodwaters. Now, this was
one of the worst affected areas, you know, that was
the flooding of the Anniversary weekend twenty twenty three. The
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proposed transition would reduce the course from eighteen holes to nine.
So let's just see what happens. That announcement will be
well is expected today.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I think you'll find that the people of Glenfield would
say it's their course and not Milford's. Well, but that's
another thing. How's Awkin's weather?
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Fine becoming partly cloudy from the afternoon cold though today's
high fourteen. Currently it's five degrees.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I imagine congestion charges just before the news. I think
it's coming, and we've got Chris Bishop in New York
trying to see what's happening there and where does the
money go once it's paid to get rid of the congestion.
I said, it's going to go back into the roads
of the district. Rob Reckins. No congestion charges must go
to debt repayments that Durnham Robertson put us into and
(23:54):
that of course, Nikola Willis is running just as much
debt as ever, so that's one things that shouldn't tarog
and get money from it. No, given Taruga Council's spending record,
there will be nothing useful for the public done with
this money. And finally a textas says Andrew Shirley, Chris
Bishop will be better off visiting a city where congestion
(24:15):
charging has already been implemented. The New York program launches
this year, but Singapore has been running congestion charging since
nineteen ninety three. Is supposed to chart of success. Yeahere
he's doing other stuff in New York. He's also going
to Texas as well. So now it's seventeen minutes to six.
Can you believe it's been twenty years since the London
(24:35):
terror attacks? Remember the one that happened down in the
underground and they blew up a bus and there were
kiwis involved and its horrific. Yes, it's twenty years ago,
so what's happening on the anniversary? Gavin Gray from the
UK is next. It's seventeen to six, So good news
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Speaker 1 (26:00):
International Correspondence with ins and eye insurance, feace of mind
for New Zealand business lead into Sex.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Kevin Gray out of the UK, Good morning to you either, Andrew.
I can't believe it's been twenty years since the London
terror texts in the underground and on the buses as well,
and we've got some bloke who's been talking about it
and how it's still affixed us today.
Speaker 13 (26:21):
Yes, so demark the twentieth anniversary, which is Monday, the
seventh of July a few hours yet on our time,
but the twentieth anniversary of the terrible suicide bombing attacking
three underground trains and a bus, leaving fifty two people
dead seven hundred and fifty injured. There will be events
around London to remember that day tomorrow our time, Monday.
(26:42):
But one of the former head of counter terrorism officers
here in the UK was saying he is in no
doubt that foreign policy was a driver behind that atrocity
and it is left behind it. He described a sole
destroying legacy of a rise in hate, he said. Neil Bassu,
who was for many years the head of counter Terrorism,
(27:04):
said governments needed to accept that foreign policy currently like
britain stance on Israel and Gaza could have a direct
effect on domestic security. He basically said that the seven
to seven attacks was a foreign policy and Iraq driven attack.
He said he doesn't excuse it, of course, but he
said it led to radicalization and made extremists of people
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who might not have been radicalized or extreme. It's tough
reading this, very difficult, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Okay, Now, meanwhile, we've got an eighty three year old
vicar who got arrested as part of a Palestine protest.
Tell me that story.
Speaker 13 (27:39):
Yeah, so it kind of comes off the back of
that twentieth anniversary story that I was just saying there.
So at the weekend, the government made Palestine Action a
prescribed terrorist organization. Palestine Action seeks to be very critical
of Israel, of course, as saying that they are conducting
genocide is relicor strongly denying this. But Palestine Action also
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went onto an RAF base, breaking in and painted some
Royal Air Force planes with the graffiti. It has cost
several million New Zealand dollars to repair. And the government
then acted saying it's prescribed it as a terrorist organization,
which means that it's now anybody relating to it can
be charged under the Terrorism Act of two thousand, which
(28:26):
is suddenly is suddenly much more serious. Even supporting it
or giving it any sort of direct action membership of
it can be punishable bar up to fourteen years in prison.
And today, or rather yesterday, there were a group of
a couple of dozen people, maybe three dozen people in
London saying we decry the genocide, but we support Palestine action. Well,
(28:51):
I'm afraid they were arrested and even if you're wearing
a T shirt with the group's name on, can attract
a maximum of a six month sentence. And as you
said in among those arrests an eighty three year old
female vicar.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
All right, Gavin Gray the UK, I thank you. It
is news Talk ZIP. Early addition, it is ten to six.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
ZIBB.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
It's a recess week for Parliament. But the government still
has a lot of ideas being thrown around. Yesterday morning,
Justice ministerpau Goldsmith floated the idea on Q and A
of introducing minimum or mandatory sentences for certain crimes. And
the government's also seeking advice from Inland Revenue around the
tax settings for our major banks. And we've got phase
two of the COVID nineteen war Commission of Inquiry getting
(29:31):
underway to day, so to join us to talk about this.
It's good morning once again to our political editor, but
only for another month. Jason Wall's good morning to you.
Good morning. So these changes to the tax setting. This
is a little bit ironic since we learned last week
that the banks are our biggest corporate taxpayers.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Well, I mean, it's an interesting article to read nicol
Willis confirming to The Herald that a wide range of
options are being considered to ensure the major banks are
paying their share in tax. And it's noting that they'll
be looking at but in the next year's budget, which
is just a few months before the general election. So
(30:10):
it's interesting to see nicol Willis making this move because
she's in the past has not been shy about calling
out the banks or the supermarkets or any of the
big players in New Zealand's economy, because she wants to
get this idea that you know, she's on the side
of Kiwi consumers rather than big banks. So I'm interested
to see where this one ends up.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, so am I. But they're looking for text because
they got debts, so you know that's what they're doing,
Paul Goldsmith and the minimum and mandatory sentences floated yesterday.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, I mean it makes sense that this one was
floated yesterday after the week of Top on crime and
the government really really really digging in its heels of
a crime last week and really owning that narrative. So
now to hear that Justice Municipaul Goldsmith says it's the
possibility that the government could introduce more minimum or mandatory
(30:59):
sentences for crime. Is it's expected? You know, this is
something that he talked about before. This is something that
the government has mused about in the past and to
see this forty minimum sentence being sort of floated around
by the Justice Minister doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And the new and improved COVID nineteen Rold Commission starts
off today. Now this is going to be a fight.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
It is, and it's sort of the more meaty part
of the inquiry this. You know, the government was or
the former government was criticized for its COVID inquiry not
really having the teeth, not really getting into things that
a lot of people wanted to see it get into
this one and this was put back on the menu
by both the Act and New Zealand first parties when
(31:42):
the government was put around the table by the people
is yeah, it is the part that's going to be
really actually looked at by a lot of people in
terms of what went on to around the sort of
the more meaty parts of COVID towards the end.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, Jason, part might be in recess. But you sound
like you've got a busy day ahead of you and
I thank you for joining us this morning News Talks
there be it is seven to.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Six the first word on the News of the Day
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Speaker 2 (32:19):
You just heard on Q and A yesterday Paul Goldsmith
a bit of that. The government's looking at minimum sentences now.
There are five downsides to that. One, Judges can't tail
the sentences to specific circumstances of a case. Every case
is different too. Minimum sentences often disproportionately affect low level offenders,
particularly drug related cases. You know, marijuana smoker versus a
(32:40):
meth smoker. Three, increased prison populations whatever, four reduced and
Center for Rehabilitation, why bother and it's questionable whether the
sentences stopped the crims committing the crime in the first place,
because frankly, they don't give a damn. So David Seymour,
the Deputy Prime Minister on this on the Breakfast Show,
along with a Q A Case AKC in the show
(33:00):
who's hosted by Head, they do good morning, Welcome to
the earlies.
Speaker 14 (33:05):
Jesus, a change, isn't it. Do you know what I've
just done is I've jammed the paper.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh you mean the little one by his desk, not
the big one that everyone uses.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
You that when I say hoskings, I mean literally that
the stuff that we set aside for him to make
his life as easy as possible. I've jammed as printers
trying to fix it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You've got two weeks to fix it.
Speaker 14 (33:26):
Yeah, well it probably will take the entire two weeks.
Listen on the sentencing thing, We've got Ron Young, former
former High Court judge, who's going to be with us
to talk us through it.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (33:36):
I don't know about you, but I feel absolutely no
sense of sadness for criminals should they get a minimum
sentence of course. However, however, I suspect Ron may not agree,
but you've got you got to write a good law
that's you know, that takes into account that that that
you know, a marijuana dealer.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Is different to a meth dealer. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
I'm sure the judges will try the very hardest to
consider the.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Lauren till themselves, hence the minimum.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So that'll on.
Speaker 14 (34:00):
And yeah, we've got heaps to cover off today.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Great, love you to see you, and I'm here for
a fortnight as well. Well, Mike does whatever Mike does,
and Ryan's doing drive. See you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good morning to you and welcome to the programs. So today,
in the next sixty minutes, kids are still wagging school
despite a government that announced it had to stop. So
what's really happening in the classroom, more more importantly, what's
happening outside the classroom? We'll have that story for you.
In five Liam Lawson crashed on the first lap. England
is playing India in cricket and Argentina in rugby, and
(00:33):
oh that's right, the All Black's got a bit of
a scare. We'll have Andrew Ordison on sport and ten
we'll talk about the return of a pop star who's
done the hard yards. He's coming back to New Zealand
and the government's thinking about minimum sentences. Will have Jason
Walls just before six. All these stories plus correspondence from
what from the UK, also from One around New Zealand
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It is now eight after five.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's Monday, the seventh of July. At least sixty eight
people have been killed after flash floods swept through parts
of central Texas. Here's the Kerryville County Sheriff, Larry Leitha.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Among those who are deceased, we have thirty eight adults
and twenty one children. Eighteen adults pending identification and four
children are also pending identification. At present, there are eleven
Mystic campers unaccounted for, along with one counselor. We extend
our sincereous condolences and prayers for every single family affected
(01:42):
by this tragedy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So to the Middle East, Israel has decided to send
a delegation to Qatar for proximity talks with Hamas on
the latest proposal for a Gaza ceasefire and hostage release steel.
That comes as Netanyah to Netanyahu is set to meet
with Donald Trump on the u IS time.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I think we'll be watching very closely over today and
the coming days if they stay and if more senior
officials also join those talks. That will give us a
sense whether this is moving really forward with the momentum
that President Trump wants this time for there to be
and for there to be a breakthrough as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And as the Osborne's back Baby and Black Zebbath. They
came back on stage for their final Final, Final Final
gig in their hometown Birmingham, playing at Villa Park, very
first time the original members have performed together in twenty
years and this is what this is what they said
like at least the crowd was a good force, that's
(03:12):
for sure. More on that a little bit later on.
It is now ten minutes after five U SAORCV.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
Dickins and x fol Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry.
This winter news talks a'd be.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So on Friday our warner Saturday Night. It came true.
France were better than expected. We were worse with the
all backs scraping pass. Some said rustiness is the factor
in the all backs. I don't get that personally. We're
fresh off as Super Rugby season which saw international grade
football being played. There should have been no rustiness in
the players. If there's rustiness, it's in the game plan.
(03:47):
And that's another thing, and that is on the coaching staff.
But you don't really criticize the coaches these days. The
French also came here right after their Top fourteen competition
and they showed that they've been playing high grade foot
be a footy this year. So I warned on Friday,
we all warned on Friday of the possibility that France
might be like the Baby Blacks of nineteen eighty six.
That was a great old team captain by David Kirk,
(04:10):
included many green players, in fact, eleven eleven new players
because the old hands have been punished for the Cavaliers
to but yet they beat France eighteen nine in christ Church.
So this new French side, it's kind of similar. So
I'm going to call them the Baby La Blue. And
it's not the first time we've been scratchy in the
first Test and it's something really we need to solve
(04:30):
these days. We need to hit out against ernest, but
lesser opposition might be a good idea. And last week
people were mentioning how much they missed the Possibles Versus
Probables games, which were the training matches for all Blacks
but also a chance for the second stringers to have
one more cracket and pressing the selectors. And they were
ding dong games and they cut the rust out. Now
(04:51):
we can't really bring that game back. But I have
another idea. Why don't we organize a pre season game
between the All Blacks and the Maori All Blacks as
a precursor to their international seasons. It doesn't have to
be full noise, it doesn't have to be a big
money maker, and nor does it have to be in
the weekend. It could be a midweek feature at a
(05:12):
funky venue like fung Are or maybe even County Mancow's
boutique ground and Pokacoe. It'd be a blast. It'd be
a load of fun. It will bring rugby back to
the grassroots and it might cut out the rust and
prevent the AB's having such dodgy first games.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
News Talk said, be kids.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Are still working school. The statistics are amazing. I'm going
to tell you those statistics in a few moments time.
But the government said no, we don't want this, and
they've got a fat wire against us. So why is
it still happening. We're going to talk to Joe Malcolm
Black She's the CEO of the Graham Dingle Foundation. They
are the charity that figured this all out. And she
is next on News Talks Here, b this is the hour.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
News and views you trust to start your day. It's
earlier this ship with Padrew Dickins at X full Insulation
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Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's fourteen minutes after five. Some pretty grim numbers around
truancy out this morning. Around one thy one hundred and
ten students weren't enrolled in school for more than a
year in twenty twenty four. Two thirds of those ages
between twelve and fourteen years old. Students are put down
as no enrolled if their absence is unexplained for twenty
days or more so. Joe Malcolm Black is the CEO
(06:26):
of the Graham Dingle Foundation. This is the charity that's
worried about all of this, and she joins me this morning.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Hello Joe, Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
This is pretty dire, isn't it. These kids aren't just wagging,
They are choosing not to be educated for a year.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
It is pretty worrying.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Why is it happening?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Wow? It's an interesting one obviously, at least since it
is a pretty tricky chime for young people. There are
lots of complex things happening in their lives. What we
are seeing at the Foundation, and we've noticed it since
after the twenty twenty guns, is that a number of
young people are flying under the radar. They're just becoming
less connected to their friends, they're learning, and their communities.
(07:09):
And what that tends to do is that tends to
have a long impact normal things like not just on
things like confidence, anxiety, loss of direction, but it can
have a really negative long term impact on their well being,
their educational outcomes, and of course the futures.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
So what can start it.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Is something pretty small, massive impact on their lives.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It's not just the kid's choice here. The parents are complicent,
So why are they letting the kids get away with us?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Young people, if you've got some in your lives, are
complicated animals, and it is really hard to replace blame
entirely on parents or on students. What tends to happen
with young people at the stage is there are a
lot of complex things going a lot around that in
their lives that are needing to be managed. They will
(08:07):
be dealing with developmental, social, emotional, and environmental factors. Sometimes
the parents just don't know, sometimes they do. Sometimes there
are complex things happening happening in their families. The best
way that you can turn this around, or the best
way that you can can change this from happening, is
(08:27):
to try and engage early with young people. Can provide
consistent support about rege and that will reduce the risk
of of disengagement. It's really something you can start at five.
You can actually start it at four, things like building
(08:48):
coping skills as preschoolers, but you can start it at
five with creating some fun, interact experiential sessions that help
young people stay connected. With the feedback we got during
COVID around some of our provo school cadsers how much
their attendance school happened. We know it attending here, we
(09:08):
can classes. It's a habit that resiliences built. You are
born with some inateability, but you you augment that by help.
But they're learning their experience. This is not a child
doesn't wake up at five and say I've got to
disengage from school now. There is a whole lot of
(09:31):
cumulative factors that cause that to happen. You can keep
them connected by staying alongside them and helping them learn
with their peers about why being engaged and connected to
their colleagues and connected to their schools, connected to their
communities is important.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Now, this was an election issue, so is the work
that the government doing on truancy working and what could
they do more?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
It is hard to say the stay Obviously, we really
support the government getting involved in this subject because it
will change the impact of how our next duration has grown.
So we think it's a really good thing to do.
What we advocate for is working towards community approaches that
really really does take your whole community. Obviously, supportive families
(10:23):
and communities are important engagement of skilled teachers, but social
services and community organizations as well are important are important
to We will all create an environment that want to
stay connected to and parents support and the government feels
(10:46):
as valid.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
All of those.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Things will create a social system that can make this
happen for us.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Jo American Black, I thank you so much for getting
up early for us and show as the CEO of
the Graham Dingle Foundation. And it is now five nineteen,
so let's be having you. The text number is ninety
two ninety two. I see, why don't we bring back well,
why don't we institute the All Backs against the Mardi
Allbacks is a preseason game to knock out the rustiness?
Is this a good idea? Is this not a good idea?
(11:14):
In speaking at sport, Andrew Ordison is with us next.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Andrew Dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation keeping
Kili homes warm and try this winter news talks at
be so Inger.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Versus India and cricket is over and so we've got
the full attention of Andrew Ordison. Finally this morning, good
oneing your Andrew.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Morning andrewing Not quite, I mean Australia Western. He's still
going on as well, So.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's never over in the cricket world. It's all Blacks
were rusty. France were better than expected. Actually I expected
them to be that good. To be fair. The top
fourteen's a brilliant competition. These are good players. I just said,
why don't we have a preseason hit out All Backs
versus Malory All Blacks in Pocacoe. This is like Old
North versus South day basketball versus probable Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(11:57):
those are the days with they karake. Yeah quite a
full on hit around, it'd be great, but we've got
to do something about the fact we always study every
season with a bad game.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah, I think France really did play out of their skins.
I thought it was a really enjoyable test actually, and
they were in it the whole way obviously. And yeah,
I think sometimes we the temptations to underestimate size and
particularly the French, I mean, given their record against New
Zealand over the years.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But I thought the New Zealand performance was okay.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
I mean, obviously the three TMO reversals, but there's just
a lack of discipline, Like you say, don't think. Yeah
they were, they were rusty. It's fair, a fair call,
but I suppose it takes a wee while to get
into actions.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So they moved to Wellington and we want revenge, yes, Cracker,
well yeah, yeah, bring on the UTU. Yeah exactly. You
forming the one today Silverstone. It rained a little bit
and Liam didn't even get through the first lap. And
what I thought was just ironic about that it was
a Yuki sin Node who forced Esteban Okhonn after the
(13:00):
left and slammed into the right of Liam and Liam
what the hell was that, yes.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Truck and trailer effect in Formula one, is it just
that knock on and your loss has gone before even
finishing the first lap, So I mean starting in fifteenth
towards the back of the grid anyway and leading iris
going on to infor McLaren. Likewise, with my teammate Oscar Piatra,
it's quite a duly at the front of Formula one,
isn't it. But I think one of the key facts
(13:24):
this morning, editor is Nika Holkenberg two hundred and thirty
eight forty to one starts, never been on the podium
and he's there this morning.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, exactly, so absolutely yeah. And Wimbledon last week was
the week the seeds fell. This this week is the
week we find out who will win.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Exactly it is and well Seberleinka looking particularly strong and
the women's draw she's through. Anastasia public Tenkov is through
this morning as well, so Lara Sigemund is another who's
made it through to those quarter finals. Taylor Fritz has
had a walk over over Jordan Thompson as well, and
the men's raw a couple more of those games still
cut this morning. Is we update you with with all
(14:02):
the action from each w iteen.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Great stuff, Nice to have you here. Five four. Yes
it is. Congestion pricing is coming. More on this in.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
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Speaker 2 (14:20):
At Me News Talks B five twenty seven. This is
early edition. I'm Andrew Dickens. So Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop
is in the United States for a range of meetings
across housing, planning, development and transport, and he's in fact
in New York right now to speak to city officials
about their congestion pricing. And that makes it seem as
(14:41):
though congestion charges are inevitable in this country, and not
just for the basket case that is Auckland. I think
Totalager and Wellington will be in the firing line as well,
and the point about them is not just to ease
congestion on our roads, but it will be a white
lie to assertain that it's not a money maker as well.
So when not if Chris Bishop comes back and pulls
the place non congestion charges in this country, the question
(15:02):
is who will get the money? And I think it's
a no brainer that any money raised in a district
should be reinvested in that district. That's Wayne Brown's position
on the matter, and the legislation that has already been
proposed to do that says that, but never under estimate
a government's ability to hold on to any revenue, so
stay vigilant on this now. The other thing to note
about congestion charges overseas is that the cities that have
(15:25):
them have alternative transport options, you know, the underground or
the subway. Auckland CRL rail project means the city will
have an alternative, but introducing it elsewhere I'd like Teldonger,
maybe even Wellington would be unfair. And it's an irony
that the electorate's unwillingness to invest tax money into public
transport means that pressure is now mounting to take money
(15:48):
off them for congestion. And you know you can't escape tax,
and make no mistake about it, congestion pricing is a tax?
Is it a tax? Technically, taxes are used to raise
revenue for broad public spending. Congestion pricing designed to manage
demand and change behavior, But it's still the government taking
money off you. It feels like a tax, and therefore
(16:08):
it's a tax. So it would be very rich for
a national party to claim in the next election we
are not the party of taxation, and that just on
arrests only with the left wing. No, they're going to
tax us for driving on roads. And you know what,
I haven't met any politician from either side who actually,
in their heart of hearts doesn't like a good tax.
(16:31):
But some are just too shy to admit it. Sid
I have a wonderful feel good story for you coming
up right after the news. It's a guy who's just
got the most magnificent voice, fantastic singer. But it's a
guy who stepped away from singing. In fact, he cancel
the concert tour of New Zealand. But now he's back
(16:52):
and I can tell you I should tell you after
the break, I'm going to tell you now he's coming back.
So who is it and when is he coming back?
That is on its way. Also Gavin Gray from the
UK and Jason Walls as Paul Goldsmith starts thinking that
minimums sentences are possibly a good idea. This is early edition.
I'm Andrew Dickens and for Bryan Bridge, he'll be doing
(17:14):
the Drive show today. It's time for the fight that
he news ah been a sabbath.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis earlier this year, Andrew Dickens and x fol installation
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Speaker 8 (17:46):
Me already, so's finn a good? Or to forget me,
I'm glad it kills Ji glad me and pray God
that you're never mad and for Agador magic genor Claudia Man.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But he's so good after all this time and is
the voice of English superstar good Lewis Capaldi. Now Lewis
is the guy who stepped away from touring and recording
because of a battle with mental illness, most noticeably terrets,
which ironically makes him a very entertaining stage show. The
(18:32):
old Turrets, he says some funny stuff, but he stepped away.
He in fact canceled a tour of New Zealand. But
at Glastonbury a week ago he made an emotional comeback
to the stage. He came out and he sang, and
he cried, and fifty thousand people cried and it was
triumphants and his voice was just as good as it's
always been. It was beautiful to see him back in.
Today it's announced he's coming back to New Zealand playing
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christ Church at Wolfbrook on Sunday, the thirtieth of November,
orkn Spark Arena Tuesday, the week of December. Tickets go
on sale Monday, July fourteenth. That's Vast Steel Day. Welcome back, Lewis,
You're a brave man. Meanwhile, we played some Black Sabbath
just before the news. The band did another final concert.
They've done them before twenty years ago. They did it again.
(19:15):
They did a four song set on Saturday night at
Villa Park and Birmingham and before that Ozzy Osborne came
out and performed a brief solo set and it was hilarious.
He rose out of the stage sitting down on a
throne and the throne was decorated with bats and it
was a great gig. Guns and Roses played, Stephen Tyler played,
Sammy Hagar from Van Halen played. Allison Chains were there
(19:39):
as well. It was a great gig. And one other
great gig over the weekend. Oasis is back. They played
in Cardiff in front of seventy thousand people, first time
they played together since two thousand and nine. And the
good thing about that the boys didn't hit each other.
It's twenty two to six said be around the country.
We go to Janet and Callum prok good morning to you,
(20:00):
Callum morning, Andrew and accolade for Otaga University.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Yeah, the institution's been ranked first for student performance amongst
New Zealand universities. So that maintains an unbroken record for
Otiger University, which stretches back more than a decade. Now,
this is the annual educational performance indicators. They examined course
and qualification completion rates, first year attention and progressions are
higher levels of study. So Otago ranks first for qualification
(20:28):
completion and second for course completion and first year attention.
So that's the strongest result of any university. The Vice Chancellor,
Grant Robinson says these results are a testament to the
dedication of students and its staff.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
That's cool. Meanwhile, Dunedin's still cold.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
It is eleven the high today. Chance of a morning
shower nor easterly is developing here today.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Christ you as we go, clere, sure we are good
morning to you.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Does Air New Zealand want more international roots in and
out of christ Church?
Speaker 10 (20:54):
Wow, that's what we're trying to work out to Andrew
and in New Zealand is definitely not ruling it out
at this point. The Garden City, as we know, has
become a magnet for airlines recently. I've been here sharing
that Quantus, Singapore Airlines, China Southern have all increased their
capacity over summer. Our national carrier has also announced that
there's a christ Church to Adelaide route starting from October.
(21:15):
It used to run a direct service to LA but
that was stopped in two thousand and six. The reason
for that at the time was financial downturn in New
Zealand's long haul manager, Kylie Migilvray Brown says launching new
routes does depend on several factors, including the likes of
customer demand, as well as fleet capacity and operational considerations.
She says though they are continuing to assess how christ
(21:37):
Church fits into the company's wider international strategy as the
fleet grows. And it's not warm and Canterbury today, No,
it's cloudy here, northeasteries particularly a bit later.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
And a high of nine.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Max told joins us from Willington. How Max, good morning,
We've got another baby death, this time in your region.
Speaker 11 (21:54):
Yeah, there's been a devastating space of baby related home
cases in the past few weeks that awful to discovery
in a wheely bin in Ponstanby included a thirty two
year old woman charged with interfering with human remains there.
Then we learned of serious fractures and breaks are suffered
by a three month old girl in the hud Valley.
She was taken to hospital by family last month, where
(22:15):
staff alerted authorities. Police notified us about that case last
week and now a homicide investigation also underway after the
death of a six month old found with critical injuries
at a house at Foxton Beach. Police have already spoken
to a number of people there and we'll liaise with
medical experts. How's your weather party, cloudy with light showers
(22:36):
today ten the high in Wellington talk can we go Nino?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Let him man a good morning to you morning injury.
So today auckn golfers find out where the half of
the Takapuna golf course could be turned into a swamp.
Speaker 12 (22:47):
Well, yes, an announcement will be made so yeah. The
council weighing up this redevelopment option so to improve vulnerability.
This is in the north Shore suburb of Milford. The
city council's considering two earning half that course as you're
saying to wetland to take on floodwaters. Now, this was
one of the worst affected areas, you know, that was
the flooding of the Anniversary weekend twenty twenty three. The
(23:10):
proposed transition would reduce the course from eighteen holes to nine.
So let's just see what happens. That announcement will be
well is expected today.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I think you'll find that the people of Glenfield would
say it's their course and not Milford's. Well, but that's
another thing. How's Awkin's weather?
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Fine becoming partly cloudy from the afternoon cold though today's
high fourteen. Currently it's five degrees.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I imagine congestion charges just before the news. I think
it's coming, and we've got Chris Bishop in New York
trying to see what's happening there and where does the
money go once it's paid to get rid of the congestion.
I said, it's going to go back into the roads
of the district. Rob Reckins. No congestion charges must go
to debt repayments that Durnham Robertson put us into and
(23:54):
that of course, Nikola Willis is running just as much
debt as ever, so that's one things that shouldn't tarog
and get money from it. No, given Taruga Council's spending record,
there will be nothing useful for the public done with
this money. And finally a textas says Andrew Shirley, Chris
Bishop will be better off visiting a city where congestion
(24:15):
charging has already been implemented. The New York program launches
this year, but Singapore has been running congestion charging since
nineteen ninety three. Is supposed to chart of success. Yeahere
he's doing other stuff in New York. He's also going
to Texas as well. So now it's seventeen minutes to six.
Can you believe it's been twenty years since the London
(24:35):
terror attacks? Remember the one that happened down in the
underground and they blew up a bus and there were
kiwis involved and its horrific. Yes, it's twenty years ago,
so what's happening on the anniversary? Gavin Gray from the
UK is next. It's seventeen to six, So good news
for MILF that they've just taken out the consumer New
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Speaker 6 (25:00):
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Speaker 1 (26:00):
International Correspondence with ins and eye insurance, feace of mind
for New Zealand business lead into Sex.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Kevin Gray out of the UK, Good morning to you either, Andrew.
I can't believe it's been twenty years since the London
terror texts in the underground and on the buses as well,
and we've got some bloke who's been talking about it
and how it's still affixed us today.
Speaker 13 (26:21):
Yes, so demark the twentieth anniversary, which is Monday, the
seventh of July a few hours yet on our time,
but the twentieth anniversary of the terrible suicide bombing attacking
three underground trains and a bus, leaving fifty two people
dead seven hundred and fifty injured. There will be events
around London to remember that day tomorrow our time, Monday.
(26:42):
But one of the former head of counter terrorism officers
here in the UK was saying he is in no
doubt that foreign policy was a driver behind that atrocity
and it is left behind it. He described a sole
destroying legacy of a rise in hate, he said. Neil Bassu,
who was for many years the head of counter Terrorism,
(27:04):
said governments needed to accept that foreign policy currently like
britain stance on Israel and Gaza could have a direct
effect on domestic security. He basically said that the seven
to seven attacks was a foreign policy and Iraq driven attack.
He said he doesn't excuse it, of course, but he
said it led to radicalization and made extremists of people
(27:26):
who might not have been radicalized or extreme. It's tough
reading this, very difficult, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Okay, Now, meanwhile, we've got an eighty three year old
vicar who got arrested as part of a Palestine protest.
Tell me that story.
Speaker 13 (27:39):
Yeah, so it kind of comes off the back of
that twentieth anniversary story that I was just saying there.
So at the weekend, the government made Palestine Action a
prescribed terrorist organization. Palestine Action seeks to be very critical
of Israel, of course, as saying that they are conducting
genocide is relicor strongly denying this. But Palestine Action also
(28:03):
went onto an RAF base, breaking in and painted some
Royal Air Force planes with the graffiti. It has cost
several million New Zealand dollars to repair. And the government
then acted saying it's prescribed it as a terrorist organization,
which means that it's now anybody relating to it can
be charged under the Terrorism Act of two thousand, which
(28:26):
is suddenly is suddenly much more serious. Even supporting it
or giving it any sort of direct action membership of
it can be punishable bar up to fourteen years in prison.
And today, or rather yesterday, there were a group of
a couple of dozen people, maybe three dozen people in
London saying we decry the genocide, but we support Palestine action. Well,
(28:51):
I'm afraid they were arrested and even if you're wearing
a T shirt with the group's name on, can attract
a maximum of a six month sentence. And as you
said in among those arrests an eighty three year old
female vicar.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
All right, Gavin Gray the UK, I thank you. It
is news Talk ZIP. Early addition, it is ten to six.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
ZIBB.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
It's a recess week for Parliament. But the government still
has a lot of ideas being thrown around. Yesterday morning,
Justice ministerpau Goldsmith floated the idea on Q and A
of introducing minimum or mandatory sentences for certain crimes. And
the government's also seeking advice from Inland Revenue around the
tax settings for our major banks. And we've got phase
two of the COVID nineteen war Commission of Inquiry getting
(29:31):
underway to day, so to join us to talk about this.
It's good morning once again to our political editor, but
only for another month. Jason Wall's good morning to you.
Good morning. So these changes to the tax setting. This
is a little bit ironic since we learned last week
that the banks are our biggest corporate taxpayers.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Well, I mean, it's an interesting article to read nicol
Willis confirming to The Herald that a wide range of
options are being considered to ensure the major banks are
paying their share in tax. And it's noting that they'll
be looking at but in the next year's budget, which
is just a few months before the general election. So
(30:10):
it's interesting to see nicol Willis making this move because
she's in the past has not been shy about calling
out the banks or the supermarkets or any of the
big players in New Zealand's economy, because she wants to
get this idea that you know, she's on the side
of Kiwi consumers rather than big banks. So I'm interested
to see where this one ends up.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, so am I. But they're looking for text because
they got debts, so you know that's what they're doing,
Paul Goldsmith and the minimum and mandatory sentences floated yesterday.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, I mean it makes sense that this one was
floated yesterday after the week of Top on crime and
the government really really really digging in its heels of
a crime last week and really owning that narrative. So
now to hear that Justice Municipaul Goldsmith says it's the
possibility that the government could introduce more minimum or mandatory
(30:59):
sentences for crime. Is it's expected? You know, this is
something that he talked about before. This is something that
the government has mused about in the past and to
see this forty minimum sentence being sort of floated around
by the Justice Minister doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And the new and improved COVID nineteen Rold Commission starts
off today. Now this is going to be a fight.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
It is, and it's sort of the more meaty part
of the inquiry this. You know, the government was or
the former government was criticized for its COVID inquiry not
really having the teeth, not really getting into things that
a lot of people wanted to see it get into
this one and this was put back on the menu
by both the Act and New Zealand first parties when
(31:42):
the government was put around the table by the people
is yeah, it is the part that's going to be
really actually looked at by a lot of people in
terms of what went on to around the sort of
the more meaty parts of COVID towards the end.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, Jason, part might be in recess. But you sound
like you've got a busy day ahead of you and
I thank you for joining us this morning News Talks
there be it is seven to.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Six the first word on the News of the Day
Early edition with Andrew Dickins and x Fole Insulation keeping
Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This Winter News Talks at
B SOS.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You just heard on Q and A yesterday Paul Goldsmith
a bit of that. The government's looking at minimum sentences now.
There are five downsides to that. One, Judges can't tail
the sentences to specific circumstances of a case. Every case
is different too. Minimum sentences often disproportionately affect low level offenders,
particularly drug related cases. You know, marijuana smoker versus a
(32:40):
meth smoker. Three, increased prison populations whatever, four reduced and
Center for Rehabilitation, why bother and it's questionable whether the
sentences stopped the crims committing the crime in the first place,
because frankly, they don't give a damn. So David Seymour,
the Deputy Prime Minister on this on the Breakfast Show,
along with a Q A Case AKC in the show
(33:00):
who's hosted by Head, they do good morning, Welcome to
the earlies.
Speaker 14 (33:05):
Jesus, a change, isn't it. Do you know what I've
just done is I've jammed the paper.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh you mean the little one by his desk, not
the big one that everyone uses.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
You that when I say hoskings, I mean literally that
the stuff that we set aside for him to make
his life as easy as possible. I've jammed as printers
trying to fix it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You've got two weeks to fix it.
Speaker 14 (33:26):
Yeah, well it probably will take the entire two weeks.
Listen on the sentencing thing, We've got Ron Young, former
former High Court judge, who's going to be with us
to talk us through it.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (33:36):
I don't know about you, but I feel absolutely no
sense of sadness for criminals should they get a minimum
sentence of course. However, however, I suspect Ron may not agree,
but you've got you got to write a good law
that's you know, that takes into account that that that
you know, a marijuana dealer.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Is different to a meth dealer. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
I'm sure the judges will try the very hardest to
consider the.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Lauren till themselves, hence the minimum.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So that'll on.
Speaker 14 (34:00):
And yeah, we've got heaps to cover off today.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Great, love you to see you, and I'm here for
a fortnight as well. Well, Mike does whatever Mike does,
and Ryan's doing drive. See you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
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