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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
an early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be good morning, Wednesday, the seventh, have major just
gone six after five? Great to have your company coming
up this morning. Those pay equity deals, how legit are they? Rarely?
Gavin Gray's in the UK for US, big morning for them.
India and UK have signed a free trade deal. Taken
them three years, but they've got there. It's a good one.
We'll have details for you. Unemployment numbers out today, but
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when will it peak? That's the question this morning. We
also look at that phone band that a national MP
is suggesting all ahead here on early edition the agenda
Mayors has had a bit of a mayor on his
first day. This is the new German chancellor. The Conservative
took two goes two counts, couldn't get enough on the
(00:54):
first vote to get through. Have a listen.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
A hugely embarrassing day.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
For Freeze Mertz.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
He has been trying to project.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Strength and certainty, this antidote to the last divided government.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
This is not how he wanted to start his term
in power.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh well, he got there in the end. Karnis at
the White House. So far, so tame with Trump.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
His party was losing by a lot and he ended
up winning, so I really want to congratulate him. Probably
one of the greatest comebacks in the history of politics,
maybe even greater than mine.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm waiting for the fireside chat after the meeting. That's
the deuce that I want. So we'll see if that
comes before we get off here at six this morning. Otherwise, Mike,
I'm sure we'll have it for you later on. After
three years of talks, the UK and India have agreed
to a trade deal will make it easier for firms
to export whiskey, cars, other products that India cut taxes
on Indian's clothing and football we're exports.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
This is the biggest trade deal that we the UK
have done since we left the EU, and it's the
most ambitious trade deal for India ever done.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now we've had the met gala in New York City
yesterday where all the rich liberal elite pay I think
it's seventy five thousand dollars to dress up nicely and
go to a ball. The theme this year was tailoring
black style and Rhianna with her third pregnancy and her
baby bump stole the show.
Speaker 8 (02:20):
She was wearing a kind of deconstructed suit that was
custom Mark Jacobs. She's always one to turn off to
the mat gala and make us black.
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Say nine the number to text. You've got to hand
it to the Brits this morning. They've signed the mother
of all trade deals with India. India, of course, is
a behemoth one point four billion consumers, growing middle class,
all of that good stuff. Mody and Starmer have signed
the thing. It's done. It's a done deal. The upshot
ten billion dollars a year in GDP a billion in
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tariffs gone, just like that. This is the big post
Brexit prize for them, three years in the making. And
as the British negotiators move out of their Deli hotels,
our negotiator is of course of moving in there. What's
interesting here for us is what's not included in the
British deal. Dairy. Dairy is our golden goose, but they
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don't want to flood their own producers. The Indians have
cut tariff on ninety percent of their products. For the British.
But dairy ain't one and that's not a good thing
for us. Not a great sign. Lamb on the other hand,
is in which is good that side? This is a
great deal. It means Modi's in the mood for more
FTAs Trump may have helped push that along. Luxtance called
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Target India is the right one. It's time to get
down to business. Ryan Bred John News Talks There be
just gone ten minutes after five. The phone ban, my
viewer is if we are to believe that phones are
ruining the minds of children, that it's turning them into depressed,
suicidal nutbars, then and you don't let them drink, you
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don't let them smoke, you don't let them have sex
with one another. Why would you give them a what
is essentially a mental health destroyer in the form of
an iPhone or a smartphone or whatever you want to
call it. We're going to talk to a psychologist on
this next.
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You talk said, be good morning. It is thirteen minutes
after five. Scott Besson, who's the Treasury Sectary over in
the United States, he's been appearing before the House Appropriation Subcommittee.
That sounds boring to begin with, but what he said
was quite interesting. He said on trade, we could have
deals quote within weeks with some of our biggest trading
partners in This is what he had to say about China.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
I think we could see substantial progress in the coming weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We'll see so potential progress with China, which would basically
mean sitting down and actually opening your mails and talking
within weeks and potentially deals signed, deals with big trading
partners within How does this sound like fanciful to you?
It does a little bit to me. But fingers crossed
thirteen after five Bryan Bridge, NAT's a putting forward a
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member's bill that banns social media for under sixteen year olds.
The TOOKI tookimp Katherine Web's bill would put responsibility of
age verification on the social media company, so that's their job.
The idea is supported by the Prime Minister, but ACT
doesn't like it. Nathan Wallace's parenting expert with us this morning. Nathan,
good morning, Good morning, Ryan, how are you mate? Very good?
(05:49):
Thank you great to have you on the show. Now
to phones, have we established that phones make kids depressed
and mess with their heads and turns them into you nutbars?
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Yeah, the short answer is year we have. In the
last like three years, the research has really moved from
being correlative, where those we know that they started to
get anxiety and depression rates started to go up at
the same time as kids got cell phones. But that's
not the same as causative research that actually shows us
causing it, whereas now there's clear evidence that shows that
social media is actually causing the depression and anxiety.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay, so tick, we do know that we can say
that definitively alcohol does bad things to them, drugs does
be cigarettes is bad for your health. We don't let
them do that, so should really? Yeah, so what are
we doing?
Speaker 8 (06:34):
Yeah, that's my way of thinking too. I think it's
been a social experiment because we didn't know it was bad.
It's going back to those old days when they didn't
know cigarette smoking was bad, so you know, doctors recommend
it and stuff. But then that changed, and I think
it's a similar situation. We now know, oh whoops, that's
way worse than we thought, way worse than were comprehended,
And now we need to, you know, be the responsible
parents and take the steps to protect our kids from it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
How do you do that? Though? If a kid gets drunk,
you can tell because they're stumbling around the house, they
smell like cigarettes. How do you tell what's that been
using a phone?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
I think there is no hard, fast way that you
can always tell. I mean, there's all the obvious parenting
things of restricting it, but I think just by making
it that they're not supposed to have one for the
age of sixteen, it's just going to take it out
of being the norm and instead of every other kid
at score having one, And it just sends the message
that it is like cigarettes and alcohol. It's something we
need to monitor because it's not just teenagers. It's you know,
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there's an issue with being on screens right from the
time you're a child. You know, the World Health Organization
says children under two shouldn't look at screens at all.
You know, the appropriate number of minutes per day they
can look at a screen without doing damage as zero.
And then we know it has big impacts on you know,
if you give your four year old the cell phone
or the iPad as a reward, they never want any
other reward after that, it's all the creativity that you know,
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sand castle building, the tree huts they're making and stuff.
That stuff doesn't tend to happen because all they want
to do is go online and you know, go and
have the screen in front of them. It's because it
gives so much dopamine to the brain. It's like alcohol,
does you know, Alcohol gives you a great big burst
of diapamat and to feel good stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
But at least at least have some fun though.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, and at least in social at least it's actually social,
whereas this is not the it's the antithesis of it. Nathan,
really appreciate you coming on the show. If I let
you talk any longer, I'm going to get more depressed. God,
isn't that frightening? Nathan Wallace, parenting expert with us this morning,
Appreciate your time. Sixteen after five, Ryan, like Winston said,
don't panic and sign a free trade deal with India.
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Keep your d line straight and moving up right. The
roller coaster Warriors Asia is our next market. This is
from one of our listeners this morning. You're on news
Talk said, be unemployment data out today. We'll tell you
all about it.
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You talk sivy five nine team. We'll get to Mark
Smith on the unemployment numbers out today in just a second.
We had numbers out yesterday though. In New Zealand can
affirming what we all know is true. Teslas aren't cool anymore.
They're not. Sales revenue down sixty nine percent last year
to one hundred and seven million dollars. This is just
for New Zealand because you used to see your Herne
(09:13):
Bay housewives, you know, your Ghosh Caviat types zipping around
town in them, albeit botox up to the dryballs and plastic.
But saving the planet with this, you know, ninety thousand
dollars hanker metal that they've shipped from the other side
of the world. I never thought they were that cool personally,
just the look of them. I don't think this is
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an Elon Musk thing. People don't care about that. Here.
The cars are just a bit ugly now. They're really round,
They're quite small. They look like ubers because a lot
of Uber drivers have got them now, and that makes
things uncool. They also look a little bit like did
anyone watch that movie with Halle Berry and in the
nineties called Race the Sun? Remember, And they had an
(09:56):
EV and it had a big solar panel on the
top it. Anyway, they sort of remind me of that. Now, anyway,
your posters and your byds from China are taking over.
It's twenty after five ran unemployment number out today. Reserve
Bank expecting an increase from five point one to five
point two. That's equal to peak lockdown numbers. Mark Smith
(10:18):
is ASB senior economist with US Mark.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
Good morning, Good morning, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So you're siding with the Reserve Bank, right, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
We're at five point two, but it can easily be
higher than that.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Does it matter?
Speaker 9 (10:32):
It does matter. What it really shows is that the
economy has gone through a very difficult period. So over
the last twelve months or so, the economy on net
has lost more than thirty thousand jobs. Now, a lot
of those job losses have been concentrated for the very young,
those just joining the labor force, and also for some
secrets like construction and the wider good sector. So yes,
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it does matter for those people.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
When do you see because the economists are split on
when it peaks. When do you think it will peak?
Speaker 9 (11:00):
Yeah, that's a bigger known. There's a lot of factor's
determining the unemployment rates. Now, we're hoping that that rate
will start moving low by the end of the year.
But what's been happening is recently, with a lot of
trade disruptions and concerns about the economy, we actually see
firms hold back on hiring, and if anything, that unemployment
rate could get a little bit higher.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Still, we're still not even seeing job I mean, we're
not that they have been increasing, but we're not seeing
job eds go boom yet, either, are we.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Yeah, no, that's right. They are still well down on
where that were a while or so ago. Now we're
hoping to see the economy start to sort of sort
of ride itself towards in the year. But what could happen, though,
is if the economy remains weak for longer than hoped,
we'd actually see the Reserve Bank proviable stimulus than what
they're previously indicated. If anything, the official cash rate at
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full below three percent for the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, I think you might be right there.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Supply demand obviously for labor effects the price you pay
for it, So don't expect the big pay rise this year.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
Yeah, that's right. If an you think labor cost or
wage growth will be the last and at least three years.
And what we're really seeing is putty sharp accelerations and
those wage increases. So the power, if you like, the
Biden power is still firmly in favor employers, and what
they're doing is making you sure that with inflation falling,
the need for wage increases. Certainly not there.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Appreciate your thoughts. Mark Mark Smith asb senior economists with
us this Morning, Bite and nearly twenty two minutes half
to five, Trevor says, Ryan vaping is a hell of
a lot more dangerous than a cell phone in the
hands of an under sixteen year old. The thing about this,
and you know this is a member's bill, not a
government bill. I'll talk about that later on in the show.
But if you're a parent and you don't want your
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under sixteen year old to vape, to use a phone,
to have sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever,
you're the parent, do you need a law to tell
you that your kids not allowed on social media? In
order to enforce that rule? And if you do what's
happened to parents? Because if my mum told me I
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wasn't allowed to do something, or I'll get dad, you know,
I'll get dad. I just you didn't do it, or
you did it very very sneakily. You know, you didn't
do it in front of them. What's happened to parents?
Nine nine twenty three after five, News Talk said B,
we'll have some more. Well, we should go to our
reporters all around the country. After news We're also going
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to talk to a union about the pay equity claims.
That's all coming before six.
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News Talks B twenty six minutes after five. Bad news
this morning for any productive, hard working, busy members of
our society. In other words, all of you listening to
the show this morning, Good morning. The climate protesters who
brought Wellington to its knees, remember that rush our traffic
to a stand still, Well, they're going to be back
at it again soon. Mark my words. You will see
(14:06):
more idiots gluing themselves to the motorways. You'll see the
map sailing down Mount Victoria, hanging signs from the gantries,
the roads closed, the police doing not what they should be.
Basically chaos to start your day. Why the Crown has
walked away from, abandoned the prosecution of more than twenty
of these guys over the protests in Wellington. These guys
(14:28):
are now off on their merry little way. They're from
the Restore Passenger Rail group, remember them. Some were awaiting
retrial after juries. Couldn't come to a verdict on whether
they endangered transport. Hello, anyway, there's lots of hands that
should be in cuffs that will soon be covered and
glue again. How do we know this? They told us.
(14:49):
One of the nutters says he hopes the crown decision
sets a precedent that protesters won't be prosecuted for future
climate change activism. We had numpties sleeping in coal carts
trying to shut down the Stockton mine on the West
Coast over easter. Dangerous stuff, expensive stuff. I remember a
(15:10):
woman stuck in traffic on State Highway one, missing her
chemotherapy appointment at hospital because of these guys. Their point,
emissions are bad for the climate, but tens of thousands
of cars sitting idle stuck in traffic while some climate
hero gets us five seconds of TikTok fame. Ab sailing
onto a state highway would surely, if anything, make those
(15:32):
emissions worse. Also, did you know they hire gas guzzling
diesel vans to ferry them to and from their stunts. Yeah,
I found that out after the fact. Hypocritical losers. Even
Torri Farno said they were dumb. Torri Farno, these people
are not about climate solutions, They're about themselves. I'm all
(15:53):
for constructive discussion on how our small country can play
its part. But every time I see an ambulance stuck
in traffic chalk just because of some unnecessary attention seeker
like this, that makes me want to let the planet
burn just despite them. Sadly, the rest of us can
look forward to dealing with much more of this in
the months and years ahead. Brian Bridge, your own News Talk,
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twenty eight minutes after five. There was an interesting story yesterday.
This is from Auckland and it's slightly related because it's
it's wildlife, so this is more conservation. But there's a
wildlife hospital that says the public light that we have
in our cities. So yeah, Harbor Bridge which fell golf
put up by the way, so how many birds is fell?
Golf killed? But skytower and your harbor Bridge lights are
(16:43):
too bright, confusing the birds They're dying, either falling out
of the sky or flying into them or whatever. So
how do we how do we do? How do we
deal with that? Turn the lights off? I mean, how
do I how are we to get around? And what
sort of city will we look about? What we look
like to tourists are going to Sydney and the harbor
(17:04):
Bridge is just off, you know, not exactly sexy, is it? Anyway?
You can get to the UK and our reporters after
news here on us Talk SIPB skill you where.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
You enjo.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (17:43):
Give Morning twenty four minutes away from six year on
news Talk cimb Ryan. I don't need a law to
tell me how I can and can't parent my kid.
I've always said I'd rather have my kid do things
in front of me so that they learn the consequences.
And if I need to intervene, I can intervene. Thing
sounds sensible, right, If I had a kid, they'd have
a football in their hand, not a phone. I think
(18:06):
it's all very well to say that, but actually it
must be quite difficult to keep them away from phones.
Otherwise so many kids wouldn't be on them. Surely that
would be the logic. Twenty three minutes away from six
News Talk said the conclave. So we should know by
I think by the weekend. End of the weekend, we
should know, based on past experience, who the new popers.
(18:26):
But how do you stop it leaking in the meantime,
because the conclave kicks off tomorrow. How do you stop
that leaking? In the modern age when every cardinal and
this dog has got a smartphone, well, a couple of things.
So there's one hundred and thirty three cardinals, and then
you've got two doctors, you've got some chefs, and you've
got a bunch of nuns. This sounds like the start
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of a bad joke. They all go into the well.
There's a chapel, obviously, but then there's two guest houses.
So how do they stop it from leaking? Will they
sweep it for microphones? They sweep it for bugs. They
have electronic jammers to make sure that phone and Wi
Fi signals are not getting in or out. You have to,
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including all of the cardinals, surrender all electronic devices when
you go in there. That's your phone, your tablet, you're
smart watch. No TVs in there, no newspapers, no radio
and so Thursday starts. Probably by the weekend we will
know unless somebody gets a sneaky little tweet out first
Bridge twenty two away from six News talks there be
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color Procter and needing for us this morning. Culum, you're
missed out on Homegrown.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
Yeah, big disappointment here I at this news. There's major
hopes that the key We only music event would would
be moved to danned And after leaving Wellington after eighteen years,
but it's been awarded to Hamilton instead. Sodnedan continuing to
struggle to attract major concerts back to the city. Danedan
Venues and Forsyth Past Stadium Chief executive Pull Dawn says
(19:57):
they put in a bid to try and bring the
festival down South. He says though disappointed at this decision,
but got good feedback from the event owners who said
that Dunedin came very close. It's been two years now
since a major concert was announced for Dunedin.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
How's your weather today, con it's.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Fine here, evening, high cloud increasing northerast developing the heights
today twenty brilliant.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Let's get a clear and christ Church clear, good morning.
Speaker 11 (20:21):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We had a big cocaine.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
Bust there, yes, well, a massive cocaine bust. In fact,
nine million dollars worth of the drug has been stopped
from entering christ Church City. Customs actually seized the twenty
five kilograms of class A drug at Littleton Port back
in March. That then prompted a search which went on
across the country for six weeks. There were numerous different
(20:44):
search warrants, conductors and arrests made of four men in
christ Church, Wellington, Totonga and Auckland. The least say this
seizure equates to more than two hundred and fifty thousand
doses of cocaine. They say crime groups are using every
method possible to exploit vulnerabilities within supply chains.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
How's your with it today?
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Clear?
Speaker 11 (21:04):
Fine aside farm, A bit of fog about this morning,
some high cloud this afternoon, northerlys and the high should
be nineteen.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It certainly might be snowing, will it max Is and
Wellington X, Good morning, good morning, Struggling to shake off
your crypto outbreak. Not the currency, obviously, no, no, no, thankfully,
crypto might be worse. This is the contagious stomach bug cryptosporidiosis,
which new cases remain fairly steady in the region eighty
one total this year, which apparently is double what it
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was by the same point in twenty four.
Speaker 12 (21:36):
Heavily linked to public swimming pool. It's making parents quite
nervous to take their kids to the pool. Also at
school's early childhood centers. About two thirds of cases have
been in the Hut Valley as well. The message remains
the same, wash your hands with soap. Any symptoms, just
steer clear of the pool altogether. Be cautious, you know,
taking your kid to preschool school, nothing wrong with a
(21:56):
sick day or two. Adults can catch it as well.
No one is safe apparently, yah, just the thought of it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Max.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Well, if you read their old story there's there's some
quite visceral description of the symptoms, so maybe post breakfast
i'd recommend.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah. Oh, and especially in a public pool as well.
You know, my mom always used to say, what are
the first three letters of pool?
Speaker 12 (22:20):
They're certainly floating.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Around Hey, what's your weather like today?
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Max cloudy periods, morning drizzles, stronger. When's seventeen the hey Central, We.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Thank you, nevas and never good morning.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Wise words from your mother the marriage, Yes, mother, Oh
that would be the worst though. It wouldn't go to
swimming pools for a while. Though, those public pools you
just but.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
They closed them now they because we had one that
we lived in waik and I. We had a public
pool just around the corner. So we were there all summer.
It was a lovely time, yes, and then someone would
do the business. They would close it. An hour later
it was open and you think, oh, yeah, it's filled
with chlorine and what all the chemicals, but you just think,
and they've clean it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
But yes, no, I'd wait, not one hour, one year.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Hey, here's it. Auckland's falling behind other cities in what regards.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yes, so look it's fifteen years can you believe it,
since the creation of the supercity. So there's been this
survey and it's showing that the majority agree with priorities
such as environmental planning, but only fifty three percent believe
the merger delivered. So they're also saying to the survey
eighteen percent feel they have influenced over decisions. Now the
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Committee for Auckland Director, that's Mark Thomas. He says, look,
despite some of these good projects such as the City
rail Link, things can't continue as they are. He reckons that,
you know, Auckland's been overtaken by these global cities. And
obviously this has all come in conjunction with this Auckland
at fifteen event which is happening, and this is the
one that's featuring panelists including you know, Helen Clark and
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Sir John Key. So all of these things are coming
out of that. But they're saying too, Look, we don't
want you know, like the smaller two to the smaller councils.
This is Mark Thomas, but he's just basically saying it's
not reaching the potential.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The up our game, you got that's it. Up our game,
up our game, and we could be doing worse. Look
you know we could. That's true. Hey, Neva, how's our weather?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Cloudy? Isolated, light charls.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's still warmers.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Come back to those warm temperatures. We've got twenty today.
That's the high here in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Brilliant. Good to see you, Neva. It is seventeen away
from six year on news talk c here b if
you're just joining US. India has signed a free trade
deal with the UK, which is a big boon for
the United Kingdom after Brexit. So we'll get to Gavin
Gray in the UK.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Next International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You talk, there'd be fourteen minutes away from six big
deal for the UK, India signing a free trade deal.
Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent, Gavin, good morning to you
must be celebrations of plenty around number ten. Yep.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's taken three years to get this far. It might
be another year before it's actually implemented and comes into force,
but there's no doubt there's a great degree of celebration.
This wasn't just a fixation of this government but the
last government as well, in order to get a trade
deal with India over the line. Why we'll already trade
between the UK and India totals roughly eighty to ninety
(25:15):
billion New Zealand dollars a year, but that is forecast
to grow and with this trade deal, the government says
you can add another fifty percent onto that easily. The
Prime Minister of Indian or Endro Remodi, described the agreement
as an historic milestone that's ambitious and mutually beneficial. So
in essence, I mean, gosh, what there are lower tariffs
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coming into the UK for Indian manufactured clothing and footwear,
food stuffs including frozen prawns, jewelry, and going the other
way from the UK levees will fall on gin and whiskey, aerospace, electrical,
medical devices, all sorts of things. But the British government
says this is the biggest and most economically significanthigh lateral
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trade agreement that the UK has science since leaving the
European Union in twenty twenty, and are quick to also
highlight that it won't mean more visas being given out
to Indians, which has been a subject of some debate
with the migration levels here in the UK.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It's interesting what's not in well, it's as interesting what's
not included as what is right as you say, no
visas and from a New Zealand perspective, no Lamb yes,
but dearie no, and deary is a big one for us.
We're over there trying to negotiate at the moment, But
that is fantastic news for you guys. Gevin. Now, the
cardinals are all going to be locked up from tomorrow, right.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah, so I hear that they are all currently in
the Vatican. They've all all arrived safely at Vatican City,
and the doors will lock officially tomorrow morning. But I
don't think anyone's nipping out for a late dinner this evening.
One hundred and thirty three Catholic cardinals in what's probably
going to be the most secretive election again of all time.
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I would guess even the dining room staff who feed
the cardinals have had to observe absolute and perpetual secrecy.
Two doctors are on hand. Apparently the chapel and the
two guesthouses being used for accommodation and the actual conclave
are going to be swept for microphones and bugs. Now,
all Catholics around the world will say this election is
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guided by God and not politics. But it is these
cardinals who are going to be making a very very
big decision. And apparently in the rooms, no televisions, newspapers
or radio for the conclave. They can't even open the
windows because some of the windows open to the external world.
So the start of probably several days process before we
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eventually find out who is the next pope, and plenty
of speculation that could be one cardinal from Asia, and
also some speculation it could even be a new pope
might come from Africa, but we know nothing yet.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Kevin Gray, quite profitiic of you, our UK courts front
with us morning, just gone e living away from six
Ryan Bridge. Govenment's cracking down on pay equity deals. It
says they've gotten out of control. They've gone beyond what
was originally intended by Parliament. Apples are being compared with oranges.
It's not working past it. Second reading these changes last
night all under urgency. Third reading today teacher aides are interesting.
(28:19):
They are upset because they did a deal in twenty twenty.
They had a payout and it had a clause saying
there was a review to happen within three years. Now
that review will no longer go ahead. Allie Kingy is
with the NZDI union with me this morning. Eli, Good morning,
mor Dina Ryan, how are you doing good? Thank you?
Just quickly explain for us this is not male male
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teacherrades getting paid more than female teacherrades. This is about
comparing a female dominated in profession with male dominated ones.
Speaker 9 (28:50):
Right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
And you guys right now, because you obviously had a
settlement in twenty twenty, there's anything changed. I mean, how
do you know you're your any worse off or more
discriminated against now than you were then.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
We're deliberately built into into pay equity that there will
be a review because we didn't want to just win.
Have the wen ya we've finally equalized and now that's
going to be built in. It ended up being there's
there's a difference again between the male dominated industries that
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we were compared against. The government said they've done quiet
review and there isn't and we've had a look at
it and we've seen this up to a seventeen percent discrepancy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Seventeen percent. So you recomnez since you did the deal
three years four years ago. Well what are we now
five years ago that the number has crept to seventeen percent?
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Again, that's what it's looking like.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, how do you calculate that? Who are you comparing
teacher ades too?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Yeah, that's the difficulty with what happened yesterday. Is it's like, oh,
they've compared these people to these people, and it's completely outrageous.
It's not because when we originally did pay equity, we
compared it line by line by line against what the
male dominated comparators were doing with our knowledge, skills and responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But you compared teacher ades, did you not? To civil engineers.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
No, no, we didn't at all. I'm not sure where
you got that information from. We ended up being mostly
compared to correction stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Right, who wear body vests and carry tasers. I mean
that they are very different jobs, are they not.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
No, we looked at things like caring for vulnerable people,
about the special needs that it took to care for
vulnerable people, about the risks to our own selves and
our work plays. But the rerun of it was I'm
not sure we got the civil engineers information from That
might be from them.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It was from the Ministry of Education website. It formed
part of your negotiation. That's cool.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
No, it was the corrects.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
The corrections officers. I mean, you say you faced a similar,
similar amount of danger, But if you're dealing with I
don't know, Brenton Tarrant versus a child, I mean it's
It's different, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah, No, none of that is what would have come
from someone who had a full understanding of how pay
equity works.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
But no, no, I'm going off what you just told me.
You said you compared safety between corrections offices and teacher ades.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
No, no, that's not what I'm saying. What's being put
forth by the government is that, oh, this thing compared
to that thing doesn't make any sense whatsoever. But what
we did was develop a really strong understanding of the
general areas of responsibility.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Between the two groups. And we again, as I said.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
We did it line by line of.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
What the responsibilities are.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
So what's being said now by the government is a
very like that's that's what that is, and it's not
it's not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, all right, Ellie, I appreciate you coming on the
program this morning. Ali Kingy Teacher Aide and NZDI Support
Staff Negotiations Team leader with us. It is seven away
from six. News Talk Tob Marke, next.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
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Speaker 2 (32:35):
Talk ZIB and you're on News Talk, said b. It's
just gone five minutes away from six Micas in the studio.
We've had Carney from Canada and the White House and
the Oval Office meeting with Trump, and I've been on here,
so I haven't had the pleasure of seeing the liver
Worth watching fireside chat. Well, it's worth watching. It's it's
very cordial and it had the potential to be a disaster.
Of course, he said they're not for sale, so he
(32:57):
got that out of the way. Trump started with a
soliloquy of the beauty of the Oval Office and how
he's transforming and renovating it. He loves that and he's
doing it with love, and it's just the beautiful Oval Office.
And he's got seen it though. Do you know, No,
it's not like it's no, it isn't there.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
No, it's not.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
It's not disgusting. It's I know what you're saying, and
I have I have a propensity to agree with you.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But I think he's.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
Done it at a level where I know what he's
trying to do artistically.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Anyway, it's not how.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Ironic it was. You were talking about the conclave. So
in a church where honesty and all that counts, I
know you can't.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Trust anybody anyway, Mike's next, see you tomorrow, have a
great day.
Speaker 12 (33:47):
Then let's leap.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
We can dance, We can dance.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
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