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On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 8th of July, mushroom cook Erin Patterson has been found guilty on all charges in her murder trial. Australia correspondent Donna Demaio is in Victoria following the developments.
MyMahi founder Jeff King joins Andrew Dickens to discuss changes to the anti-money laundering act that will make it easier for parents to open bank accounts for their children.
And Māori enterprises are outpacing some of the country's largest corporations - what is setting them apart?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
an early edition with Expole insulation, keeping Kiwi Holmes warm
and try this winter news Talks they'd be well.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning to you and welcome to the program. Thank
you for choosing early edition. So in the next sixty minutes,
it's going to become easier to open a bank account
for the kids. Why was it so hard in the
first place? And are there any other changes we can make?
We'll have that story for you in ten minutes. Mardie
enterprises are absolutely rocking in this economy, so what can
all businesses learn from them? Will have that story for
(00:34):
you in fifteen Yeah, the mushroom trial ends in Australia
with a guilty verdict. Now what's next and how are
the family's feeling and what is the capital of New Zealand.
We'll have these stories plus correspondents from around the world.
We're going to America today and correspondents from right around
New Zealand and news as it breaks. You can have
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your say by giving me a text ninety two to
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if you want two Dickens at Newstalks atb dot co
dot MS. Good morning, it's eight after five the agenda,
and it's Tuesday, the eighth of July. To the States,
a desperate search and rescue mission is ongoing in the
Texas Hill Country. More than eighty people have been confirmed
(01:17):
dead and more storms are expected over the next forty
eight hours. He has sent into tech Cruz.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Look the agony that Texas is feeling right now. Jack.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
There aren't words to describe, and our state is breathing
at a level.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
This tragedy hits close to home for.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So many, but so many of us, so many families
in Dallas and Fort Worth and Houston and all.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Across the state.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
To the United Kingdom and a memorial service to the
twentieth anniversary of the seven seven London bombings has taken
place at Saint Paul's Cathedral. Survivors and emergency workers who
responded on the day were amongst those who attended, alongside
the Prime Minister, Kair Starmer and the Mayor of London.
Said Dieck Cahn, Jesus.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
So have no fear of them, for nothing is covered
up that will not be uncovered, and nothing to secret
that will not become known. What I say to you
in the dark, tell in the light, and what you
hair whispered to proclaim from the housetops.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And listen to the echo in that cathedral. Events have
also taken place across the four Sights in central London
where the bombings took place and staying in London. Wimbledon
organizers have apologized after its electronic line calling system malfunction
during a match. A former French Open champion from Russia
with a name that's unpronounceable, was one point away from
(02:43):
winning when the glitch occurred. Tournament organizers have said human
error meant the system was turned off during the match. Meanwhile,
the other day a player was forced to lift her
skirt to prove that she had dark underwear on. I'll
tell you Wimbedon's lost the plot. Is there anything more
boring than yet another debate about our interest rates? But
(03:04):
here I go again, speculating about what the Reserve Bank
will do tomorrow. Now, for this entire decade, talk about
the OCR has been at the forefront of our discussions
about the economy. At the start of the pandemic, the
bank loosened the OCR too much. The economy when stratisferic
then as the inevitable hangover seid and interest rates rocketed
too high. The recession that cause went on so long
(03:28):
that we yearn for a reduction. It came, and maybe
we've turned a corner, but maybe we haven't. At this moment,
our farmers are seeing good days because of global factors.
Tourism and international students are coming back. House prices have stabilized,
but any green shoots in any other sectors have been contained.
For many reasons, so much of our economy sits in
(03:49):
our funk. Confidence is low. We all seem to be waiting,
wanting a little push to get back onto an even keel,
which is why when the RB considers the cost of
our money, this wins. It might be a welcome fillip
for many doing so tough if we drop the interest rate,
but that's not on the books. So since last August,
in rates have been cut by two hundred and twenty
(04:10):
five basis points. They wear at five point five percent.
They're now at three point two five percent, But with
inflation getting a second wind, it's thought that there will
be no change to the rate, But maybe a little
push is just what we need. A reduction to a
flat three percent. It reads, well, it might give businesses
a boost and for summer lifeline. It's only reckless if
(04:32):
we keep going even lower, And why should we do that?
And with the world so uncertain, we sit in wobbly
times now. I'm no economic expert and I might not
see all the unintended consequences. But I'm no fool either,
So why not drop the rate by zero point two
five percent? Get it on three and then's start working
(04:54):
for a fun summer. I don't think that's going to happen,
but maybe it should. It's eleven after five and this
is News Talk ZBB. I had no idea. It's so
hard for kids to open a bank account. I remember
when I was young, I had a bank account. At
the age of five a win to primary school. The
ASB Bank turned up and said, would you like a
(05:14):
bank book? I love a bank book, Thank you very much,
and I got a bank account. I'm still with the
same bank, but not these days. So we'll talk about
that and how they've changed things next here on News Talks.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
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This winter news talk zeb.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Fourteen minutes after five. Here's something to get you going.
Should just cinder a doing comeback? For this Commission of
Inquiry into COVID be asked to actually testify. What do
you think you can text me? Ninety two ninety two. Meanwhile,
changes to the Anti Money Laundering Act will make it
easier for parents to open bank accounts for the kids.
Now adults and children don't have to verify their address.
(06:00):
We're opening a new account at a local branch. Jeff
King is the founder of my Mahi. This is a
platform to support children with banking education and it joins
me now. Good morning to here, Jeff, thank you for joining
us today.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Good morning, thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Was it a bit of overkill to crack down on
kids having banking?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, I'm a little un sure. There's it's a little
scant on detail at the moment, but I think anything
that puts a focus on youth banking and the issues
around it, I think it's got to be a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Why were children's banking rules under the Anti Money Laundering Law?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
No, I've got no idea. And then interesting thing is,
you know you think back to you know, maybe twenty
thirty years ago, New Zealand used to be so good
at youth banking. Every kid in New Zealand had a
bank account and all the rest of it. I don't
know whether you remember it, but on my day it
was the postbook, etc. And everyone had an account. And
there was a report that came out from the Reserve
(06:59):
Bank not so long ago into basic bank accounts and
it talked about that as a factor, whereas today it's
quite a different story. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Absolutely, Look I had a bank account from five with
the ASB. I also had a little plastic cash and
you know, think to put my coins in as well.
And you know what, I'm still banking with the ASB
with the same bank account number that I have from
those days.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So yeah, and a lot of people say that that's
exactly right. But we've lost that tradition in New Zealand,
and I think if anything, you know, we did a
survey two years ago that showed our audience within the
schools that we had, you know, thirty percent of young
people didn't have an account.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So has this been something people have been calling for?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, it has, and that's sort of the reason we're
actually we ended up down this rabbit hole because school's
reached out to us. We have a digital ID within
my money. Think of a school id like on a
plastic card, but you know, one that students can use
on their phone. And after we'd created that, we've got
a bit of mone mentum with it. Schools were starting
to contact us to say, surely, you know, can you
(08:03):
get into banking now? Can you help us use the
idea card and mamahi to set up a bank account?
And we thought, oh yeah, how hard can that be? Well? Goodness,
three years later it was still battling on.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You live in a country that loves bureaucracy, you know
what I mean. But anyway, look, is there are there
any other sectors of our society that could do with
a rationalization of these money laundering rules and access to
a bank account?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, like I think that, you know, there's conversations and
there was a submission about two weeks ago to the
Reserve Bank around basic bank accounts and I'm assuming as
part of that the changes around that basic bank account
the aml CFT laws will be changed. But I think
you know, from looking at it from our space, obviously
we work with schools and particularly teenagers. You know, they
(08:50):
are probably the largest group in the country and that
will impact them the most. And the idea is is
if all young people had a bank account and left
school with a bank account, I think New Zealand would
be in a pretty good place, you know, particularly you
look at young people fifteen sixteen looking to get their
first part time jobs. They need an account, and at
(09:10):
the moment, it's a it's a really it's a difficult
process to go to.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
How about homeless people or people just out of prison.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, that's right, and I think there's there's some work
being done around that as well. But I think when
you look at the statistics and look at the percentage,
I think the greatest percentages is around youth banking. And
I think the other one looking at this amendment that's
been made in the release that came out yesterday, you know,
(09:38):
in that Reserve Bank report that I mentioned earlier, you know,
they said fifty percent of branches had closed in the
last ten years. And if that's what it's looking like,
what is banking going to look like in another five
or ten years. It's not going to be in branch
And I think the thing for us is we would
like to see that there. You know, although this is
a step in the good, in the direction, we'd like
(10:01):
to see more of a focus on digital. How are
you digitally on board? You know? How do we make
that the norm?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
When was the last time I ever used cash?
Speaker 7 (10:09):
You know?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
When we are always using the cards? The banking is critical.
So I thank you so much. Jeff King, he is
the founder of my Mahi. And it's now nineteen minutes
after five. So the Maori economy is doing amazingly well.
Can I find you a figure? Yeah, here we go.
Since twenty eighteen, the Mari economy has grown from seventeen
billion to thirty two billion and twenty twenty three and
(10:31):
of course here we are in twenty twenty five is
even bigger. So what are they doing? That's so good?
We'll talk about this in a month. It's news Talks
there b It's five nineteen.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
News and Views you trust to start your day.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's early EDITIONI with Andrew Dickins at Expole Insulation, keeping
Kiwi homes ward and dry.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
This winter news talk said by.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Twenty one, the question is should just sender do and
come back and give evidence at the Commission of Inquiry
into COVID and Clive writes, yes, Dern should come back,
pay reparations and then be jailed. James says, of course,
just sitting there are doing. Grant Robinson, Chris Hopkins, Ayisha Vadel,
and Ashley Bloomfield should be questioned hard about what they did.
Most of them will be but we all know they
(11:12):
either won't show up or will sit there and waffle
for hours and days and weeks and say absolutely nothing.
They should all be arrested and put in front of
a jury. More on this in just a few moments time.
It's five twenty two. New research by a n Z
shows EWE owned commercial entities are outpacing some of the
country's largest corporations. The data shows that Maori enterprises have
fared better in the economic downturn and are emerging in
(11:34):
good shape. And it follows an MB report earlier this
year which showed the mary economy more than doubling in
the five years to twenty twenty three. So doctor Jason
Meeker is the professor of Maori Management at Auckland University.
Good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Jason, Glad Andrew.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What are they doing so well?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well? I guess, I guess, sir, they're developing a you know,
a scale a confidence and growing in their ability to
you know, to manage assets and to grow assets of
the scale that they are. It's certainly, uh, it's through
(12:18):
three settlements tribes are able to have been able to
you know, to I guess be in control of assets
of that scale that you know, and and they're in
the process of really sort of catching up on a
one hundred and eighty years of development as a result
of those settlements.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So many other, many other, many, many other you know,
other businesses not Mali or e we led businesses you know,
funded fund from the treaty settlements have had that terrible time.
But somehow Mali is doing well. And do they have
a trick to their business acumen?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, they're really they're really focused on being prudent, being
careful because you know, these settlements, these treaty settlements are
sort of full and final and this is their one shot.
So they're really doing all they can to be careful,
(13:17):
to be but also to be innovative in terms of
how they manage these assets. So they're increasingly being i
guess sort of taking them more hands on approach to
managing their assets. Initially starting out as cash engites, but
being more involved in actively managing their assets and as
(13:38):
a result getting better attends.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They also have Maria Authorities benefit from a concessionary tax
rate of seventeen and a half percent. Now that's lower
than the standard company tax rate. So is this actually
a proof that a lower corporate tax rate actually helps business?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
The man authority tax rate is lower than the standard
corporate tax rate because the you know, the beneficiaries that
their own shares and interests in marty Land tend to
have a lower marginal tax rate, and so it makes
sense for them to have a concessionary test rait. And
(14:19):
so you know that's that's definitely of assistance to Mary
Authorities who are administering marty Land, which has a lot
of other kinds of challenges associated with it, including difficulties
in terms of access in finance and and and raising
(14:39):
debt on on marty Land. So you know that that
that's that's why we sort of had that sort of
different approach to Mary Authority tax rate.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Jason, thank you so much for for your inside today.
And yes, I've had a bit to do with Tainoi
and yet they do actually manage their assets very well.
A load of people are texting me right now. Well,
if you don't pay tax, obviously it's really easy for business.
But as I point out, a Maria authorities are subject
to income tax laws like everybody else. They must file
annual income tax returns. Yes, they do have a special
concessionary tax rate of seventeen point five percent, but yeah,
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they're going for it, and that's that's a good thing
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
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It be those talks.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It be question should just Cinda doing come home in
the year before the World Commission into our COVID response.
I think she should. I could understand though if she doesn't,
because just as she became the symbol of our successful
response to the pandemic, which we were rewarded with a
super majority in Labour's second term, she also then became
the symbol of everything that we did wrong. And there's
a significant number of people who have been weaponized against
(15:45):
the former Prime minister because of the things they resent,
and they want a hold into account. They want a
Nuremberg trial, as you heard from my text. They want fines,
they want jail, but they won't get that even if
she did come back, this is an inquiry about COVID
to understand everything they got wrong as well as everything
they got right. Now, I'm sure you Cinderadu, and even
if her conscience is completely clear, she would be worried
(16:06):
about the consequences of coming home and being at the
front of this investigation, for her family, for her personal safety,
for her own mental health. And the feeling is that
she won't. You can read between the lines in the
recent Women's Weekly interview that home is not on the raindar.
But remember, she will not escape the inquiry. No one will.
There's enough people being called to give us the full
(16:27):
and frank dissection of everything that happened at the beginning
of this decade, and that is important because there will
be another pandemic one day. So anyway, let's get into it,
with or without. Former Prime Minister just In a. Durn said,
it's five twenty nine. I're going to make her an
apology right after. I don't have to, but I'm going
(16:50):
to anyway to Lewis CAPOLDI I'm going to do that
a bit later on, going to tell you what I
did last night, and then we're off to America, the
Texas floods. It's just the images, just amazing, just how
quickly that river rose more than eighteen hour confirmed dead.
So we'll talk about that with our US correspondent, Cape Fisher.
And also the meeting between Donald Trump and Benjamin Metton.
(17:13):
Yahoo and Donald Demayo is still to come with recipes
for beef Wellington. No sorry, with the mushroom trial wrap up.
This is the addition. This is News Talks at B.
News is next.
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Andrew Dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation keeping
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And try this Winter News Talks at.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
B because I'm already.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
To find a jo have to forget me.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I'd rather kill my Julie gran me the credit God
as you never mad me the forget me to no Cavits.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
No, I really do like this song. I mean it's
just so sad, you know, and yet the voice is
so good. Now, yes, sir. At this time we announced
that Lewis Caupoldi is coming to New Zealand to play
at the end of November. That's the guy singing, by
the way, So we weren't supposed to say that until
ten am, but we missed a little word that said embargo.
So we broke that embargo and for that, the team
apologizes to anyone who was put out by that. I
(18:23):
don't have to apologize, but I know that the email
chain was quite large. But on the other hand, you
can say you heard it first here on news Talk ZMB,
which is pretty much what you expect from this great
little station. This is what we do. We break news,
and we had the Lewis Caupoldi news first, So I'm
sorry to the hits. Anyway, last night I went to
the opening of the Art of Banksing. It's a traveling
(18:45):
exhibition of one hundred and eighty works by the world's
greatest street artist. It's a great little exhibition full of
all sorts of subversive works that attack the patriarchy, attack war,
attacks consumerism, and it's always amusing after seeing this critical
art about our voracius need to buy stuff that you
end out exiting through the gift shop where you can
buy stuff that kind of undermines, that have images on
(19:09):
them that kind of undermine the whole modern desire to
buy stuff. But you buy that stuff which has that
stuff on it, and you know what, they know it too,
because the film all about Banks is in fact called
Exit through the Gift Shop. Funny, smart, very very good.
Can I recommend the show if you're visiting Auckland and
after you've been to the Banks Sea, you can pop
up the road to see an outstanding collection of modern
(19:30):
greats at the Art Gallery. So, with all due respect
to Wellington, I have to say I'm sorry Auckland is
currently the arts capital of New Zealand. I'm de Cinder,
Adirn Colin says, I think in admission of mistakes by
just Cinder I Durm will go a long way to
dampening some of the hatred toward her. It's going to
have to have them at some stage or she won't
be comfortable here. As time goes on and Steve reckons
(19:51):
a brand de Cinda is too big to fail on
the world stage. She ain't coming back. It is twenty
one to six.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition Andrew Dickins and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes
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Speaker 2 (20:07):
Around the country. We go to Dunedin first callum productor
good morning to you morning. Andrew that while Freedom Campus
is back.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Queenstown Lakes District Councils proposed by law will allow self
contained vehicles to camp for free for a maximum of
two nights every thirty days. This is across one hundred
and fifty eight designated car parks and the likes of Queenstown,
Monica and Aratown.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It's the third attempt at.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
Getting this by law across the line, with the previous
one deemed invalid by the Court. Of course, this is
a big issue for Queenstown. It has the most freedom
campus of anywhere in New Zealand, so they have to
get it right. Mayor Glenn Lewis says he doesn't think
that this will impact visit in numbers, but will instead
play stronger boundaries to manage these visitors better.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
How's your weather.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
Mainly fine for Dunedin today the art shower tonight with
the nor easterly strengthening the heights of day ten.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Play some Lewis Capaldi for me, Ma, thank you, Hey
Chleas from christ Jurs. Good morning, good morning. This is
a terribly sad story a popular post. He has tragically
died on his last day at work.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
This is terribly sad. Andrew look posty David Bullock has
been identified as the man hit and killed by a
car near Leiston on Saturday night. It was his final
delivery after thirty years with New Zealand post He was
actually doing a last minute drop off to a home
about thirty kilometers southwest of christ Church. His van, though,
got stuck in some mud. The seventy eight year old
(21:28):
was there with his son in law. They decided to
walk to a nearby home for some help and that's
when they were struck by another vehicle. David was killed
while his son in law was taken to hospital seriously injured.
The postman was hugely popular, As I said, he also
had a Queen's Service Medal for his contribution to the
sport of indoor bowls. A police investigation is on going
(21:50):
into the incidents.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Very sad. Now, how's your weather?
Speaker 10 (21:53):
A bit of frost about today, simcloud increasing this morning,
isolated showers, easterlies and ten to Wellington.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Max told good morning, good morning. Tell me about the
Wellington ed weaight times?
Speaker 11 (22:05):
Yeah, look like a lot of emergency emergency departments in
New Zealand. Wellington Hospital can be pretty abysmal. The numbers
prove it the worst ed weight times in the country.
Less than half of people, less than half of people
through the doors are being seen within six hours. Forty
nine percent is pretty astonishing. The government's target is ninety
five percent. So the story in the post this morning.
(22:27):
Wellington Hospital has been reducing the number of maternity beds
to use them for ED patients. There was an angry
meeting where staff were told of this trial. Apparently one
concern is that now that patients going through still births
and now with an earshot of new mothers and crying babies,
it is just a trial at this point at the
hospital to try to urgently get those ED numbers up.
(22:51):
But staff not happy all.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right, And how to weather for Wellington.
Speaker 11 (22:55):
A cold start but mostly fine today thirteen the high
in the city we.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Go neither let's you mina good morning to you good morning.
So this is a little bit complicated. Nati FA to
Ak have won an environmental court appeal recognizing it has
the dominant EWE relationship with the land in the water
around Auckland's west An Marina.
Speaker 12 (23:12):
Correct Andrew, that's right, because what had happened was that
back in twenty nineteen Auckland Council's form of development arm
that's Ekipanuku one resource concent to expand the marina. Now,
among the conditions there were that Ekipanuku invited nineteen Hapu
and Ewe to establish a forum. But you see what's
happening is that Nati pha toke set it was the
(23:33):
dominant EWE in the area and all nineteen shouldn't be
treated the same. The move was opposed by the other EWE,
of course, but the Environment Court ruled in ud our
case favor. All right, how's Orkand's weather cloudy or chaw
north of the city from the afternoon Auckland's high fifteen.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Now go Wellington. Of course I mentioned the fact that
the art of BANKSI is here and this incredible modern
giants exhibition at these art gallery is here as well.
I said, Orkland is the art capital. Well Wellington's striking
back and the banks exhibition was in Wellington months ago,
You dummy and our fan with a heavy tongue and
kauf someone writes this, Lee writes, cough Andrew, you realize
(24:10):
we had the Banksy first, putting Wellington then first as
the art capital. Thank you Lee. Maybe it was then,
but now baby now or conroll rules. We got two
of them and they're big, all right. The Texas floods.
We're going to talk about that, and of course the
big one, Donald Trump and Benjamin Ettina, who are meeting
(24:30):
to address the Guards of War. Details next with Kate
Fisher and later Donald DeMaio out of Australia with the
wrap up the dessert you could almost say of the
mushroom trial.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
It is now.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Fourteen minutes to six. Cave Fisher from the United States.
Good morning to you.
Speaker 13 (24:51):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
These Texas floods, the whole world is crying. More than
eighty confirmed dead, at least seventy five in Kirkcaut County alone,
and it it doesn't look like anything could have been
done about it except a bit of weather forecast.
Speaker 13 (25:04):
Yeah, it's tragic and it just seems to get worse
by the second. We've just been listening to Caroline Levitt,
the press secretary for Donald Trump, who said it's now
at least ninety one people who are confirmed dead, as
you say, at least seventy five of them in that
county region, which is where that girl's summer camp missed
it camp was being held, and at least twenty seven
(25:27):
of the victims are people who are attending that camp,
so they are children, and we understand there's still ten
children and one counselor who are missing from that camp
as rescue teams continue to work for the fourth day
to try to find survivors and bodies very tragically from this,
and as you say, Donald Trump himself saying that this
(25:49):
was a once in one hundred year catastrophe and that
nobody could have predicted it, at the same time as
Democrats are raising questions about the fact that he has
cut jobs from the National Weather Service and is planning
to cut jobs from the Federal Emergency Management Agency who've
been on the ground helping with rescue efforts. So there
(26:10):
is definitely a kind of a partisan war brewing over
whether there were any of this could have been kind
of mitigated by having more staff. The National Weather Service
say they did have enough staff that day, but clearly
that is not stopping Democrats, particularly from questioning Donald Trump's cuts.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yes, we all need a villain, we all need to
blame somebody, but there's other things as well. River management well,
we live in a very floody country in New Zealand
as well. And yes, sometimes it's about with the forecasting, yiss,
it's about the management about rivers. But at the same time,
let's not forget that it's still quite fresh. And as
you now say, ninety one did now Donald Trump and
Benjamint and Yah who are meeting to address the Gaza war.
Speaker 13 (26:51):
That's right, Nettaya, who will be here at the White
House in a few hours time to have dinner with
Donald Trump and a meeting. We're told that cameras will
not be around for that, which is fairly unusual. Usually
Donald Trump likes to kind of speak on camera when
he has foreign leaders to visit. Of course, that could change,
but at the moment, that's what we think. The roads
(27:12):
around here have all been closed down ahead of this.
Garza is certainly high on the agenda. Donald Trump desperate
to try to find an end to the war there.
He's been promising that since he took office. He wants
Israel and her ass to sign onto a deal that
he is in the works right now, but he seems
less confident that's going to happen today. In fact, his
(27:34):
special end voice, Seve wik Cooff is heading to Doha
to carry on these negotiations later in the week, which
suggests they're not ready to unveil any kind of secured
deal today. But Iran will also be on the agenda.
Of course, Israel and the US work together to try
to bomb the Iranian nuclear sites, and they will be
(27:56):
praising each other at this meeting at the White House.
Something of a victory lamp, But underneath that is Donald
Trump trying to push for a diplomatic solution to the
disagreements with Iran and to end its nuclear program, whereas
Benjamin Lettiell, who the Israeli leader, is much more skeptical
of that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yes, and we'll find out that in the fullness of time,
whether it is a victory lamp or whether the whole thing,
the twelve day War was a draw. But that's for
the future. And I thank you Kate Fisher. It's now
ten to six news talks that'd be all well talked
about it. The mushroom trial in Australia, mushroom cook Aaron
Patterson has been found guilty on all charges in her
(28:35):
murder trial. The jury took a week to come to
a decision, but found her ultimately guilty of the murder
of her in laws, Gail and Donald Patterson and Heather Wilkinson,
the dinner's guests. Blood was coursing whether Ama toxin, a
deadly poison produced by the death cap mushrooms nine to
sprout under oak trees of Victoria. So Don, Gale, and
(28:56):
Heather died of organ failure, all within a week. Now
for more on this, we've got Donna tomorrow on the
Langod Morning to your.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Donna, Good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
People said that jury took quite a long time, a
whole week. What was that about.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Well, they're allowed to take as long as they want.
So it was about a week of deliberations for the jury,
seven men and five women, and they ultimately found the
fifty year old guilty of murdering the in laws that
you just mentioned, ed Don and Gale Patterson and Heather Wilkinson.
He was Gail's sister, younger sister, so donal Gale aged seventy,
(29:32):
Heather sixty six years old and has his husband in
Wilkinson was the sole survivor of that that lunch. He
was not in court on the day of the verdict
when it was delivered yesterday, we know that Simon Patterson,
the estranged husband of Aaron, was invited to that lunch
(29:55):
you might recall, but he canceled the night before because
he said he had felt uncome constable.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Well, yes.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
About about attending.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
So there you go.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Take take that with interest. But you know, each day,
for more than two months, every seat at that tiny
courthouse more wells we tro val in law courts in
regional Touria were filled, and we heard that some people
were so fascinated by this case that, you know, the
general public were telling stories that you know, they gave
(30:28):
up work and they, you know, would get there super
early to sit in on in court and watch this unfold,
watch this trial unfold.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Look, it's the same here.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Everybody's fascinated here. And of course the passions are high.
So the people that thought she was guilty thought she
was guilty and thought it would only take everybody twenty
minutes to come up with the decision. That's why one
week was quite interesting. What can we expect for sentencing, Well.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
The sentencing data is yet to be determined, but ultimately
Aaron Patterson's legal team can appeal. There's a lodge appeal
can be lodged and should say she has twenty eight
days to begin the process of lodging an appeal according
to the Supreme Court of Australia, so her legal team
can consider that either to appeal the guilty verdict itself,
(31:17):
the sentence, which we don't know what it is yet,
or both. Now the grounds for appeal you might be interested.
The most common ground is that the verdict was unsatisfactory
or unreasonable, and the Court of appeal might find that
it just wasn't sufficient to justify a conviction. So interesting
that you might note also that no motive was ever
(31:39):
provided to the court. I found that fascinating. But the
prosecutors described Erin Patterson as a duplicitous liar who prepared
a meal with murderous incantent. She showed no emotion when
the guilty verdict was maad it down, by.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
The way, that was a very good sentence to prisiness
liar who showed murderous and tent. Donna demoo, I thank
you so much. It is now seven minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
News Talks at b the news you need this morning
and the in depth analysis earlier this year Andrew Dickens
and x full insulation keeping, Kiwi Holmes, warn and dry
this winter news talks ad me.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
So Craig rides with Jainda Ashley and Grant all a
while it only leaves Hipkins available to face the music.
He was the go to safe pair of hands, minister
of everything during that period. Surely he needs to be interviewed.
Yes he will, He cannot run away. Yes that's right, Craig,
And you're right. But the thing is just it ain't
going to come. We know that already. I think what
irritates people is that she's more than happy to take
credit for the success, but at the moment she still
(32:37):
has not apologized for the failures.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Did I tell you I'm.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Reading her book?
Speaker 13 (32:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I know, Yeah, I'm reading.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Her book, and I'm just I just last night got
up to the bit. I think we're we've just finished
dealing with the Mosk attack. Just wrap that up, and
I think that we're now going to deal with the COVID.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So you'll be disappointed. Well, I left through it and
I was disappointed. Now, okay, exactly. Now let's get under
your skin. Family Boost.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
Oh no, I hate the Family Boost? Do you hate
the Family Boost?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Well, I'm a bit over all that sort of thing.
But apparently apparently I'm I'm pay I could get the
family boost because apparently I'm not I'm poor. I mean, listen, okay,
tell me to twenty nine, right to twenty nine.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
K tell me if I'm out of touch. But a
family on two hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars now
qualifies for for state help to pay for early chandhood.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I don't know that.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
I think that a family on two hundred and thirty
thousand dollars is poor?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Are they poor?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
If you're not poor, right, that's what welfare is for
poor people. If you're not poor, why are we helping you?
It doesn't make any sense. We're broke, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
But you're talking about it on the radio.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
We're going to talk about this. We're also going to
tell you what that mushroom chaffe. There was no outcome
other than guilty, and it's the dehydrator that got her
in the end of view.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
But why did it take a week? If it's if
it's so sure in your mind, why did it take
a week?
Speaker 8 (33:52):
I just think they liked the hotel.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, very good. Heather dberc Allen in for Mike, Ryan
Bridge in for Heatheren Andrew Dickens and for Run.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge.
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Listen live to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays,
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning to you and welcome to the program. Thank
you for choosing early edition. So in the next sixty minutes,
it's going to become easier to open a bank account
for the kids. Why was it so hard in the
first place? And are there any other changes we can make?
We'll have that story for you in ten minutes. Mardie
enterprises are absolutely rocking in this economy, so what can
all businesses learn from them? Will have that story for
(00:34):
you in fifteen Yeah, the mushroom trial ends in Australia
with a guilty verdict. Now what's next and how are
the family's feeling and what is the capital of New Zealand.
We'll have these stories plus correspondents from around the world.
We're going to America today and correspondents from right around
New Zealand and news as it breaks. You can have
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if you want two Dickens at Newstalks atb dot co
dot MS. Good morning, it's eight after five the agenda,
and it's Tuesday, the eighth of July. To the States,
a desperate search and rescue mission is ongoing in the
Texas Hill Country. More than eighty people have been confirmed
(01:17):
dead and more storms are expected over the next forty
eight hours. He has sent into tech Cruz.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Look the agony that Texas is feeling right now. Jack.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
There aren't words to describe, and our state is breathing
at a level.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
This tragedy hits close to home for.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So many, but so many of us, so many families
in Dallas and Fort Worth and Houston and all.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Across the state.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
To the United Kingdom and a memorial service to the
twentieth anniversary of the seven seven London bombings has taken
place at Saint Paul's Cathedral. Survivors and emergency workers who
responded on the day were amongst those who attended, alongside
the Prime Minister, Kair Starmer and the Mayor of London.
Said Dieck Cahn, Jesus.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
So have no fear of them, for nothing is covered
up that will not be uncovered, and nothing to secret
that will not become known. What I say to you
in the dark, tell in the light, and what you
hair whispered to proclaim from the housetops.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And listen to the echo in that cathedral. Events have
also taken place across the four Sights in central London
where the bombings took place and staying in London. Wimbledon
organizers have apologized after its electronic line calling system malfunction
during a match. A former French Open champion from Russia
with a name that's unpronounceable, was one point away from
(02:43):
winning when the glitch occurred. Tournament organizers have said human
error meant the system was turned off during the match. Meanwhile,
the other day a player was forced to lift her
skirt to prove that she had dark underwear on. I'll
tell you Wimbedon's lost the plot. Is there anything more
boring than yet another debate about our interest rates? But
(03:04):
here I go again, speculating about what the Reserve Bank
will do tomorrow. Now, for this entire decade, talk about
the OCR has been at the forefront of our discussions
about the economy. At the start of the pandemic, the
bank loosened the OCR too much. The economy when stratisferic
then as the inevitable hangover seid and interest rates rocketed
too high. The recession that cause went on so long
(03:28):
that we yearn for a reduction. It came, and maybe
we've turned a corner, but maybe we haven't. At this moment,
our farmers are seeing good days because of global factors.
Tourism and international students are coming back. House prices have stabilized,
but any green shoots in any other sectors have been contained.
For many reasons, so much of our economy sits in
(03:49):
our funk. Confidence is low. We all seem to be waiting,
wanting a little push to get back onto an even keel,
which is why when the RB considers the cost of
our money, this wins. It might be a welcome fillip
for many doing so tough if we drop the interest rate,
but that's not on the books. So since last August,
in rates have been cut by two hundred and twenty
(04:10):
five basis points. They wear at five point five percent.
They're now at three point two five percent, But with
inflation getting a second wind, it's thought that there will
be no change to the rate, But maybe a little
push is just what we need. A reduction to a
flat three percent. It reads, well, it might give businesses
a boost and for summer lifeline. It's only reckless if
(04:32):
we keep going even lower, And why should we do that?
And with the world so uncertain, we sit in wobbly
times now. I'm no economic expert and I might not
see all the unintended consequences. But I'm no fool either,
So why not drop the rate by zero point two
five percent? Get it on three and then's start working
(04:54):
for a fun summer. I don't think that's going to happen,
but maybe it should. It's eleven after five and this
is News Talk ZBB. I had no idea. It's so
hard for kids to open a bank account. I remember
when I was young, I had a bank account. At
the age of five a win to primary school. The
ASB Bank turned up and said, would you like a
(05:14):
bank book? I love a bank book, Thank you very much,
and I got a bank account. I'm still with the
same bank, but not these days. So we'll talk about
that and how they've changed things next here on News Talks.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
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Fourteen minutes after five. Here's something to get you going.
Should just cinder a doing comeback? For this Commission of
Inquiry into COVID be asked to actually testify. What do
you think you can text me? Ninety two ninety two. Meanwhile,
changes to the Anti Money Laundering Act will make it
easier for parents to open bank accounts for the kids.
Now adults and children don't have to verify their address.
(06:00):
We're opening a new account at a local branch. Jeff
King is the founder of my Mahi. This is a
platform to support children with banking education and it joins
me now. Good morning to here, Jeff, thank you for joining
us today.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Good morning, thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Was it a bit of overkill to crack down on
kids having banking?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, I'm a little un sure. There's it's a little
scant on detail at the moment, but I think anything
that puts a focus on youth banking and the issues
around it, I think it's got to be a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Why were children's banking rules under the Anti Money Laundering Law?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
No, I've got no idea. And then interesting thing is,
you know you think back to you know, maybe twenty
thirty years ago, New Zealand used to be so good
at youth banking. Every kid in New Zealand had a
bank account and all the rest of it. I don't
know whether you remember it, but on my day it
was the postbook, etc. And everyone had an account. And
there was a report that came out from the Reserve
(06:59):
Bank not so long ago into basic bank accounts and
it talked about that as a factor, whereas today it's
quite a different story. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Absolutely, Look I had a bank account from five with
the ASB. I also had a little plastic cash and
you know, think to put my coins in as well.
And you know what, I'm still banking with the ASB
with the same bank account number that I have from
those days.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So yeah, and a lot of people say that that's
exactly right. But we've lost that tradition in New Zealand,
and I think if anything, you know, we did a
survey two years ago that showed our audience within the
schools that we had, you know, thirty percent of young
people didn't have an account.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So has this been something people have been calling for?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, it has, and that's sort of the reason we're
actually we ended up down this rabbit hole because school's
reached out to us. We have a digital ID within
my money. Think of a school id like on a
plastic card, but you know, one that students can use
on their phone. And after we'd created that, we've got
a bit of mone mentum with it. Schools were starting
to contact us to say, surely, you know, can you
(08:03):
get into banking now? Can you help us use the
idea card and mamahi to set up a bank account?
And we thought, oh yeah, how hard can that be? Well? Goodness,
three years later it was still battling on.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You live in a country that loves bureaucracy, you know
what I mean. But anyway, look, is there are there
any other sectors of our society that could do with
a rationalization of these money laundering rules and access to
a bank account?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, like I think that, you know, there's conversations and
there was a submission about two weeks ago to the
Reserve Bank around basic bank accounts and I'm assuming as
part of that the changes around that basic bank account
the aml CFT laws will be changed. But I think
you know, from looking at it from our space, obviously
we work with schools and particularly teenagers. You know, they
(08:50):
are probably the largest group in the country and that
will impact them the most. And the idea is is
if all young people had a bank account and left
school with a bank account, I think New Zealand would
be in a pretty good place, you know, particularly you
look at young people fifteen sixteen looking to get their
first part time jobs. They need an account, and at
(09:10):
the moment, it's a it's a really it's a difficult
process to go to.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
How about homeless people or people just out of prison.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, that's right, and I think there's there's some work
being done around that as well. But I think when
you look at the statistics and look at the percentage,
I think the greatest percentages is around youth banking. And
I think the other one looking at this amendment that's
been made in the release that came out yesterday, you know,
(09:38):
in that Reserve Bank report that I mentioned earlier, you know,
they said fifty percent of branches had closed in the
last ten years. And if that's what it's looking like,
what is banking going to look like in another five
or ten years. It's not going to be in branch
And I think the thing for us is we would
like to see that there. You know, although this is
a step in the good, in the direction, we'd like
(10:01):
to see more of a focus on digital. How are
you digitally on board? You know? How do we make
that the norm?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
When was the last time I ever used cash?
Speaker 7 (10:09):
You know?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
When we are always using the cards? The banking is critical.
So I thank you so much. Jeff King, he is
the founder of my Mahi. And it's now nineteen minutes
after five. So the Maori economy is doing amazingly well.
Can I find you a figure? Yeah, here we go.
Since twenty eighteen, the Mari economy has grown from seventeen
billion to thirty two billion and twenty twenty three and
(10:31):
of course here we are in twenty twenty five is
even bigger. So what are they doing? That's so good?
We'll talk about this in a month. It's news Talks
there b It's five nineteen.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
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Twenty one, the question is should just sender do and
come back and give evidence at the Commission of Inquiry
into COVID and Clive writes, yes, Dern should come back,
pay reparations and then be jailed. James says, of course,
just sitting there are doing. Grant Robinson, Chris Hopkins, Ayisha Vadel,
and Ashley Bloomfield should be questioned hard about what they did.
Most of them will be but we all know they
(11:12):
either won't show up or will sit there and waffle
for hours and days and weeks and say absolutely nothing.
They should all be arrested and put in front of
a jury. More on this in just a few moments time.
It's five twenty two. New research by a n Z
shows EWE owned commercial entities are outpacing some of the
country's largest corporations. The data shows that Maori enterprises have
fared better in the economic downturn and are emerging in
(11:34):
good shape. And it follows an MB report earlier this
year which showed the mary economy more than doubling in
the five years to twenty twenty three. So doctor Jason
Meeker is the professor of Maori Management at Auckland University.
Good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Jason, Glad Andrew.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What are they doing so well?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well? I guess, I guess, sir, they're developing a you know,
a scale a confidence and growing in their ability to
you know, to manage assets and to grow assets of
the scale that they are. It's certainly, uh, it's through
(12:18):
three settlements tribes are able to have been able to
you know, to I guess be in control of assets
of that scale that you know, and and they're in
the process of really sort of catching up on a
one hundred and eighty years of development as a result
of those settlements.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So many other, many other, many, many other you know,
other businesses not Mali or e we led businesses you know,
funded fund from the treaty settlements have had that terrible time.
But somehow Mali is doing well. And do they have
a trick to their business acumen?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, they're really they're really focused on being prudent, being
careful because you know, these settlements, these treaty settlements are
sort of full and final and this is their one shot.
So they're really doing all they can to be careful,
(13:17):
to be but also to be innovative in terms of
how they manage these assets. So they're increasingly being i
guess sort of taking them more hands on approach to
managing their assets. Initially starting out as cash engites, but
being more involved in actively managing their assets and as
(13:38):
a result getting better attends.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
They also have Maria Authorities benefit from a concessionary tax
rate of seventeen and a half percent. Now that's lower
than the standard company tax rate. So is this actually
a proof that a lower corporate tax rate actually helps business?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
The man authority tax rate is lower than the standard
corporate tax rate because the you know, the beneficiaries that
their own shares and interests in marty Land tend to
have a lower marginal tax rate, and so it makes
sense for them to have a concessionary test rait. And
(14:19):
so you know that's that's definitely of assistance to Mary
Authorities who are administering marty Land, which has a lot
of other kinds of challenges associated with it, including difficulties
in terms of access in finance and and and raising
(14:39):
debt on on marty Land. So you know that that
that's that's why we sort of had that sort of
different approach to Mary Authority tax rate.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Jason, thank you so much for for your inside today.
And yes, I've had a bit to do with Tainoi
and yet they do actually manage their assets very well.
A load of people are texting me right now. Well,
if you don't pay tax, obviously it's really easy for business.
But as I point out, a Maria authorities are subject
to income tax laws like everybody else. They must file
annual income tax returns. Yes, they do have a special
concessionary tax rate of seventeen point five percent, but yeah,
(15:12):
they're going for it, and that's that's a good thing
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
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Speaker 2 (15:22):
It be question should just Cinda doing come home in
the year before the World Commission into our COVID response.
I think she should. I could understand though if she doesn't,
because just as she became the symbol of our successful
response to the pandemic, which we were rewarded with a
super majority in Labour's second term, she also then became
the symbol of everything that we did wrong. And there's
a significant number of people who have been weaponized against
(15:45):
the former Prime minister because of the things they resent,
and they want a hold into account. They want a
Nuremberg trial, as you heard from my text. They want fines,
they want jail, but they won't get that even if
she did come back, this is an inquiry about COVID
to understand everything they got wrong as well as everything
they got right. Now, I'm sure you Cinderadu, and even
if her conscience is completely clear, she would be worried
(16:06):
about the consequences of coming home and being at the
front of this investigation, for her family, for her personal safety,
for her own mental health. And the feeling is that
she won't. You can read between the lines in the
recent Women's Weekly interview that home is not on the raindar.
But remember, she will not escape the inquiry. No one will.
There's enough people being called to give us the full
(16:27):
and frank dissection of everything that happened at the beginning
of this decade, and that is important because there will
be another pandemic one day. So anyway, let's get into it,
with or without. Former Prime Minister just In a. Durn said,
it's five twenty nine. I're going to make her an
apology right after. I don't have to, but I'm going
(16:50):
to anyway to Lewis CAPOLDI I'm going to do that
a bit later on, going to tell you what I
did last night, and then we're off to America, the
Texas floods. It's just the images, just amazing, just how
quickly that river rose more than eighteen hour confirmed dead.
So we'll talk about that with our US correspondent, Cape Fisher.
And also the meeting between Donald Trump and Benjamin Metton.
(17:13):
Yahoo and Donald Demayo is still to come with recipes
for beef Wellington. No sorry, with the mushroom trial wrap up.
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No, I really do like this song. I mean it's
just so sad, you know, and yet the voice is
so good. Now, yes, sir. At this time we announced
that Lewis Caupoldi is coming to New Zealand to play
at the end of November. That's the guy singing, by
the way, So we weren't supposed to say that until
ten am, but we missed a little word that said embargo.
So we broke that embargo and for that, the team
apologizes to anyone who was put out by that. I
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don't have to apologize, but I know that the email
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can say you heard it first here on news Talk ZMB,
which is pretty much what you expect from this great
little station. This is what we do. We break news,
and we had the Lewis Caupoldi news first, So I'm
sorry to the hits. Anyway, last night I went to
the opening of the Art of Banksing. It's a traveling
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exhibition of one hundred and eighty works by the world's
greatest street artist. It's a great little exhibition full of
all sorts of subversive works that attack the patriarchy, attack war,
attacks consumerism, and it's always amusing after seeing this critical
art about our voracius need to buy stuff that you
end out exiting through the gift shop where you can
buy stuff that kind of undermines, that have images on
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them that kind of undermine the whole modern desire to
buy stuff. But you buy that stuff which has that
stuff on it, and you know what, they know it too,
because the film all about Banks is in fact called
Exit through the Gift Shop. Funny, smart, very very good.
Can I recommend the show if you're visiting Auckland and
after you've been to the Banks Sea, you can pop
up the road to see an outstanding collection of modern
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greats at the Art Gallery. So, with all due respect
to Wellington, I have to say I'm sorry Auckland is
currently the arts capital of New Zealand. I'm de Cinder,
Adirn Colin says, I think in admission of mistakes by
just Cinder I Durm will go a long way to
dampening some of the hatred toward her. It's going to
have to have them at some stage or she won't
be comfortable here. As time goes on and Steve reckons
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a brand de Cinda is too big to fail on
the world stage. She ain't coming back. It is twenty
one to six.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition Andrew Dickins and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes
warm and dry. This winter news talk said be right.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Around the country. We go to Dunedin first callum productor
good morning to you morning. Andrew that while Freedom Campus
is back.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Queenstown Lakes District Councils proposed by law will allow self
contained vehicles to camp for free for a maximum of
two nights every thirty days. This is across one hundred
and fifty eight designated car parks and the likes of Queenstown,
Monica and Aratown.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It's the third attempt at.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
Getting this by law across the line, with the previous
one deemed invalid by the Court. Of course, this is
a big issue for Queenstown. It has the most freedom
campus of anywhere in New Zealand, so they have to
get it right. Mayor Glenn Lewis says he doesn't think
that this will impact visit in numbers, but will instead
play stronger boundaries to manage these visitors better.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
How's your weather.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
Mainly fine for Dunedin today the art shower tonight with
the nor easterly strengthening the heights of day ten.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Play some Lewis Capaldi for me, Ma, thank you, Hey
Chleas from christ Jurs. Good morning, good morning. This is
a terribly sad story a popular post. He has tragically
died on his last day at work.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
This is terribly sad. Andrew look posty David Bullock has
been identified as the man hit and killed by a
car near Leiston on Saturday night. It was his final
delivery after thirty years with New Zealand post He was
actually doing a last minute drop off to a home
about thirty kilometers southwest of christ Church. His van, though,
got stuck in some mud. The seventy eight year old
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was there with his son in law. They decided to
walk to a nearby home for some help and that's
when they were struck by another vehicle. David was killed
while his son in law was taken to hospital seriously injured.
The postman was hugely popular, As I said, he also
had a Queen's Service Medal for his contribution to the
sport of indoor bowls. A police investigation is on going
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into the incidents.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Very sad. Now, how's your weather?
Speaker 10 (21:53):
A bit of frost about today, simcloud increasing this morning,
isolated showers, easterlies and ten to Wellington.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Max told good morning, good morning. Tell me about the
Wellington ed weaight times?
Speaker 11 (22:05):
Yeah, look like a lot of emergency emergency departments in
New Zealand. Wellington Hospital can be pretty abysmal. The numbers
prove it the worst ed weight times in the country.
Less than half of people, less than half of people
through the doors are being seen within six hours. Forty
nine percent is pretty astonishing. The government's target is ninety
five percent. So the story in the post this morning.
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Wellington Hospital has been reducing the number of maternity beds
to use them for ED patients. There was an angry
meeting where staff were told of this trial. Apparently one
concern is that now that patients going through still births
and now with an earshot of new mothers and crying babies,
it is just a trial at this point at the
hospital to try to urgently get those ED numbers up.
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But staff not happy all.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right, And how to weather for Wellington.
Speaker 11 (22:55):
A cold start but mostly fine today thirteen the high
in the city we.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Go neither let's you mina good morning to you good morning.
So this is a little bit complicated. Nati FA to
Ak have won an environmental court appeal recognizing it has
the dominant EWE relationship with the land in the water
around Auckland's west An Marina.
Speaker 12 (23:12):
Correct Andrew, that's right, because what had happened was that
back in twenty nineteen Auckland Council's form of development arm
that's Ekipanuku one resource concent to expand the marina. Now,
among the conditions there were that Ekipanuku invited nineteen Hapu
and Ewe to establish a forum. But you see what's
happening is that Nati pha toke set it was the
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dominant EWE in the area and all nineteen shouldn't be
treated the same. The move was opposed by the other EWE,
of course, but the Environment Court ruled in ud our
case favor. All right, how's Orkand's weather cloudy or chaw
north of the city from the afternoon Auckland's high fifteen.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Now go Wellington. Of course I mentioned the fact that
the art of BANKSI is here and this incredible modern
giants exhibition at these art gallery is here as well.
I said, Orkland is the art capital. Well Wellington's striking
back and the banks exhibition was in Wellington months ago,
You dummy and our fan with a heavy tongue and
kauf someone writes this, Lee writes, cough Andrew, you realize
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we had the Banksy first, putting Wellington then first as
the art capital. Thank you Lee. Maybe it was then,
but now baby now or conroll rules. We got two
of them and they're big, all right. The Texas floods.
We're going to talk about that, and of course the
big one, Donald Trump and Benjamin Ettina, who are meeting
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to address the Guards of War. Details next with Kate
Fisher and later Donald DeMaio out of Australia with the
wrap up the dessert you could almost say of the
mushroom trial.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
It is now.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Fourteen minutes to six. Cave Fisher from the United States.
Good morning to you.
Speaker 13 (24:51):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
These Texas floods, the whole world is crying. More than
eighty confirmed dead, at least seventy five in Kirkcaut County alone,
and it it doesn't look like anything could have been
done about it except a bit of weather forecast.
Speaker 13 (25:04):
Yeah, it's tragic and it just seems to get worse
by the second. We've just been listening to Caroline Levitt,
the press secretary for Donald Trump, who said it's now
at least ninety one people who are confirmed dead, as
you say, at least seventy five of them in that
county region, which is where that girl's summer camp missed
it camp was being held, and at least twenty seven
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of the victims are people who are attending that camp,
so they are children, and we understand there's still ten
children and one counselor who are missing from that camp
as rescue teams continue to work for the fourth day
to try to find survivors and bodies very tragically from this,
and as you say, Donald Trump himself saying that this
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was a once in one hundred year catastrophe and that
nobody could have predicted it, at the same time as
Democrats are raising questions about the fact that he has
cut jobs from the National Weather Service and is planning
to cut jobs from the Federal Emergency Management Agency who've
been on the ground helping with rescue efforts. So there
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is definitely a kind of a partisan war brewing over
whether there were any of this could have been kind
of mitigated by having more staff. The National Weather Service
say they did have enough staff that day, but clearly
that is not stopping Democrats, particularly from questioning Donald Trump's cuts.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yes, we all need a villain, we all need to
blame somebody, but there's other things as well. River management well,
we live in a very floody country in New Zealand
as well. And yes, sometimes it's about with the forecasting, yiss,
it's about the management about rivers. But at the same time,
let's not forget that it's still quite fresh. And as
you now say, ninety one did now Donald Trump and
Benjamint and Yah who are meeting to address the Gaza war.
Speaker 13 (26:51):
That's right, Nettaya, who will be here at the White
House in a few hours time to have dinner with
Donald Trump and a meeting. We're told that cameras will
not be around for that, which is fairly unusual. Usually
Donald Trump likes to kind of speak on camera when
he has foreign leaders to visit. Of course, that could change,
but at the moment, that's what we think. The roads
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around here have all been closed down ahead of this.
Garza is certainly high on the agenda. Donald Trump desperate
to try to find an end to the war there.
He's been promising that since he took office. He wants
Israel and her ass to sign onto a deal that
he is in the works right now, but he seems
less confident that's going to happen today. In fact, his
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special end voice, Seve wik Cooff is heading to Doha
to carry on these negotiations later in the week, which
suggests they're not ready to unveil any kind of secured
deal today. But Iran will also be on the agenda.
Of course, Israel and the US work together to try
to bomb the Iranian nuclear sites, and they will be
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praising each other at this meeting at the White House.
Something of a victory lamp, But underneath that is Donald
Trump trying to push for a diplomatic solution to the
disagreements with Iran and to end its nuclear program, whereas
Benjamin Lettiell, who the Israeli leader, is much more skeptical
of that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yes, and we'll find out that in the fullness of time,
whether it is a victory lamp or whether the whole thing,
the twelve day War was a draw. But that's for
the future. And I thank you Kate Fisher. It's now
ten to six news talks that'd be all well talked
about it. The mushroom trial in Australia, mushroom cook Aaron
Patterson has been found guilty on all charges in her
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murder trial. The jury took a week to come to
a decision, but found her ultimately guilty of the murder
of her in laws, Gail and Donald Patterson and Heather Wilkinson,
the dinner's guests. Blood was coursing whether Ama toxin, a
deadly poison produced by the death cap mushrooms nine to
sprout under oak trees of Victoria. So Don, Gale, and
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Heather died of organ failure, all within a week. Now
for more on this, we've got Donna tomorrow on the
Langod Morning to your.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Donna, Good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
People said that jury took quite a long time, a
whole week. What was that about.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Well, they're allowed to take as long as they want.
So it was about a week of deliberations for the jury,
seven men and five women, and they ultimately found the
fifty year old guilty of murdering the in laws that
you just mentioned, ed Don and Gale Patterson and Heather Wilkinson.
He was Gail's sister, younger sister, so donal Gale aged seventy,
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Heather sixty six years old and has his husband in
Wilkinson was the sole survivor of that that lunch. He
was not in court on the day of the verdict
when it was delivered yesterday, we know that Simon Patterson,
the estranged husband of Aaron, was invited to that lunch
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you might recall, but he canceled the night before because
he said he had felt uncome constable.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Well, yes.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
About about attending.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
So there you go.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
Take take that with interest. But you know, each day,
for more than two months, every seat at that tiny
courthouse more wells we tro val in law courts in
regional Touria were filled, and we heard that some people
were so fascinated by this case that, you know, the
general public were telling stories that you know, they gave
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up work and they, you know, would get there super
early to sit in on in court and watch this unfold,
watch this trial unfold.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Look, it's the same here.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Everybody's fascinated here. And of course the passions are high.
So the people that thought she was guilty thought she
was guilty and thought it would only take everybody twenty
minutes to come up with the decision. That's why one
week was quite interesting. What can we expect for sentencing, Well.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
The sentencing data is yet to be determined, but ultimately
Aaron Patterson's legal team can appeal. There's a lodge appeal
can be lodged and should say she has twenty eight
days to begin the process of lodging an appeal according
to the Supreme Court of Australia, so her legal team
can consider that either to appeal the guilty verdict itself,
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the sentence, which we don't know what it is yet,
or both. Now the grounds for appeal you might be interested.
The most common ground is that the verdict was unsatisfactory
or unreasonable, and the Court of appeal might find that
it just wasn't sufficient to justify a conviction. So interesting
that you might note also that no motive was ever
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provided to the court. I found that fascinating. But the
prosecutors described Erin Patterson as a duplicitous liar who prepared
a meal with murderous incantent. She showed no emotion when
the guilty verdict was maad it down, by.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
The way, that was a very good sentence to prisiness
liar who showed murderous and tent. Donna demoo, I thank
you so much. It is now seven minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
News Talks at b the news you need this morning
and the in depth analysis earlier this year Andrew Dickens
and x full insulation keeping, Kiwi Holmes, warn and dry
this winter news talks ad me.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
So Craig rides with Jainda Ashley and Grant all a
while it only leaves Hipkins available to face the music.
He was the go to safe pair of hands, minister
of everything during that period. Surely he needs to be interviewed.
Yes he will, He cannot run away. Yes that's right, Craig,
And you're right. But the thing is just it ain't
going to come. We know that already. I think what
irritates people is that she's more than happy to take
credit for the success, but at the moment she still
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has not apologized for the failures.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Did I tell you I'm.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Reading her book?
Speaker 13 (32:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I know, Yeah, I'm reading.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Her book, and I'm just I just last night got
up to the bit. I think we're we've just finished
dealing with the Mosk attack. Just wrap that up, and
I think that we're now going to deal with the COVID.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So you'll be disappointed. Well, I left through it and
I was disappointed. Now, okay, exactly. Now let's get under
your skin. Family Boost.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
Oh no, I hate the Family Boost? Do you hate
the Family Boost?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Well, I'm a bit over all that sort of thing.
But apparently apparently I'm I'm pay I could get the
family boost because apparently I'm not I'm poor. I mean, listen, okay,
tell me to twenty nine, right to twenty nine.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
K tell me if I'm out of touch. But a
family on two hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars now
qualifies for for state help to pay for early chandhood.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I don't know that.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
I think that a family on two hundred and thirty
thousand dollars is poor?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Are they poor?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
If you're not poor, right, that's what welfare is for
poor people. If you're not poor, why are we helping you?
It doesn't make any sense. We're broke, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
But you're talking about it on the radio.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
We're going to talk about this. We're also going to
tell you what that mushroom chaffe. There was no outcome
other than guilty, and it's the dehydrator that got her
in the end of view.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
But why did it take a week? If it's if
it's so sure in your mind, why did it take
a week?
Speaker 8 (33:52):
I just think they liked the hotel.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, very good. Heather dberc Allen in for Mike, Ryan
Bridge in for Heatheren Andrew Dickens and for Run.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
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