September 8, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Tuesday 9th of September 2025 Tom Phillips has been shot dead and his three children have been found safe, Private investigator Chris Budge tells Ryan what happens from here.
New data shows rents are down 3% nationwide to the lowest point since 2023.
The PPTA is telling members to vote down the government's new pay offer, Leighton Watson Senior Lecturer of maths and statistics at Canterbury University, shares his thoughts.
Plus, Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio has the details of Mushroom Cook Erin Patterson's sentencing.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
earlier this show with one roof Love where You Live
News Talk Sai'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good morning on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
The private investigator who's been hunting Tom Phillips for years,
well after Australia on the Mushroom Killer. Rental prices lowest
in two years and the teacher pay.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The minimum wage comparison that will surprise her.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
The agenda It is Tuesday the nineteen September to Jerusalem.
Palestinian gunman opening fire and start shooting at Israeli's at
a bus stop.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Six dead.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
The idea of says the shooters were then shot by
an off Judy soldier.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
These murders, these attacks on all fronts, do not deter us.
They only increased our distermination to complete the missions we
have taken upon ourselves in Gaza, in Judea and Samaria everywhere.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Mushroom Lady, she's going to be in jail until at
least the age of eighty two for killing her family
with Beeth Wellington.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Only did you cut short three lives and cause lasting
damage to Ian Wilkinson's health, thereby devastating the extended Patterson
and Wilkinson families. You inflicted untold suffering on your own children,
whom you robbed of their beloved grandparents.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And to France we go now, whereas bye bye Bayrou
The French are chewing through leaders quicker than you can
get through a beget. This is Macron's centrist guy lost
the confidence vote just two minutes ago. Government on the
brink of collapse. Dick crisis continues, his BUYERU trying to
save himself.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I believe in our in the different diffront of powers
and the strength of our institutions. This is why I'm masking.
This says why, in the face of our democratic situation
and the help of our nation, I asked that we
found within ourselves the shared conviction to find an agreement
(01:56):
here and is through.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live news Talks.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
They'd be flip me in Texas Morning Love, hearing from
you nine to nine to two, lipens.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That's hard right.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
She's up out of her seat, she's up in arms,
she's beating the drum for new elections over in France.
Goodness me, could they get through anyway? I think he's
been through five prime ministers now in two years, Macron,
because remember they stitched together a government from all the
strange bedfellows on the left to keep the far right
out after the last elections, which were during the camp
(02:33):
the Olympics. Remember we were watching the Olympics and they
sort of put it all on hold and then they
went back. Wasn't that long ago, was it? Anyway, the
debt crisis continues. A friend of mine is French, and
she tells me about the enormous expenditure that goes on
to things you just wouldn't dream of here. I mean,
you think our health system costs a lot. Go live
(02:54):
in France. They have almost like an uber So if
you get sick and you need to go to the hospital,
normally you if it's an emergency, you call an ambulance.
Otherwise you drive yourself, you take public transport. They have
basically a dedicated uber service that gets anyone who's broken
a fingernail, pays for them, The state pays for them
to go. This thing cost has blown out from something
(03:16):
like a couple one hundred million to something like eight
billion dollars, and they wonder why they're in debt. Family
member of mine was over there last week. Got a
tooth problem when in as a foreigner. When in, how
much does it cost? Twenty three euros? So good luck everybody.
Now I want to talk to you about Wellington. So
(03:37):
Wellington Region getting new electric trains, eighteen of them.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
They will be eighteen five car battery electric multiple units,
same saying, but different to the ones that you're standing
next to. They will bed in the route between here
and Masterton or the wider Upper service, and they will
consid the service between here and Thalmerston North.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
All right, good, great. The other ones are from the seventies.
They need to be replaced. But oh, Captain Chippy's not
happy about all this.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
It's a re announcement of a re announcement of a
re announcement. The trains have been on the way for
the Lower North Island for quite some time now. I
think Chris Bishops re announced them about four times already,
probably because he hasn't really got much new to announce
of his own work.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Okay, what he's not telling you is that back in
September of twenty twenty three, when Labor was in power
and Chippy was driving the train, there was a problem.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Here's what he didn't tell you.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
They had a wait for it cost blowout fifty million
dollars to get the tracks sorted before the trains came.
They had a wait for it delay four years. They
had a wait for it funding shortfull, no guarantee who
would pay for that. The original price was seventy eight million,
the new price one hundred and twenty eight million dollars.
Sounds a little bit like the ferries, doesn't it, Or
(04:57):
the Tahara and Auckland thing with a ghost train where
nobody used it. At least this time, hopefully, it looks
like we're going to get the job done. Eleven after
five news talks, here'd be teacher, pay the minimum wage.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
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It's earlier this ship with Bryan Bridge and one route
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Speaker 2 (05:17):
Five news talks'd be bive.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Thirteen on news talks, he'd be with Tom Phillips. Can
you blame police for not finding him for four years?
How is it that a man can go missing with
three children in bush, in a small place like New
Zealand and not be found. There'll be criticism of the police,
I bet, but I think you've got to go easy
on them, because look, I mean even in Australia, you've
(05:39):
got that sovereign citizen guy on the run. He's killed
two Victorian police officers. He's on the run. Sure, it's
only been weeks, not years. But if a person knows
the terrain, knows the bush like the back of his hand,
he has an advantage. This guy is bush hardened. I mean, yes,
you can, you can pick around the edges at the
(06:00):
police response, but I don't think is there a police
force in the world that would have come here and
found Tom Phillips.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That is the question.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Fourteen after five newspapers Rambridge, do the secondary teachers have
a leg to stand on? That's the question the union
are telling their members they should vote down the government's
new payoffer. This is after the Ministry doubled the previous
one two point five percent in the first year two
percent in the next lighton Watson's senior lecture of Mass
and Stats at Canterbury Unions with me this morning late
and good.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
Morning, good morning worry. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So you don't think this is enough. You've done a
comparison to the minimum wage as a benchmark what is
the difference.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
So teacher salaries have kind of plummeted relative to the
minimum wage and I guess, maybe more importantly to the
median wage over the past twenty five years. In nineteen
ninety nine, beginning teachers paid thirty three thousand dollars and
nowadays they're paid sixty four thousand dollars, which seems like
like a great increase. But if a beginning teachers paid
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the same amount now as they were in nineteenninety nine
relative to the minimum wage, that the earning of one
hundred thousand dollars, and if they're paid the same as
they were relative to the median wage offer have kept
up with median wage inflation, then they're be getting paid
eighty one thousand dollars or about seventeen thousand dollars more
than they're currently paid.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, so you reckon they should be getting at least
seventeen grand more than they're currently being paid. Would this
new offer not do there?
Speaker 9 (07:24):
This new offer is an increase of two point five
to two point seventy five percent, depending on where they
sit on the salary scale, which equates to about thirteen
hundred or two thousand, five hundred dollars depending off the
bottom or the top of the salary scale, and over
the last twenty five years they're decreased relative to the
meeting wage. Sofer, if teacher salaries had kept out with
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the average wage inflation, then they should be earning seventeen
thousand dollars. And I'm not really making adjudgment here, I'm
just giving you the numbers that seventeen thousand dollars is
a lot more than thirteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, understand So with the minimum wage comparison, is everybody
not in everyone who's working right now?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Have they not?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Also because the minimum wages shot up, I mean we're
going up twenty two percent in the last two in
the last three years.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Alone of the labor government.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Has everyone not fallen behind and in relative terms to
the minimum wage because it's been ramped up so rapidly.
Speaker 9 (08:16):
Yeah, So all about twenty five years, minimum wagees increased
by factor of three, whereas teacher salaries have only increased
by factor of two. But I guess the difference is
the medium wages increased by factor of two point five,
And so that's really that. You know, you can make
arguments about the minimum wage should be higher than it
was of seven dollars twenty five years ago. And I
don't think people are going to argue with that. But
(08:38):
I think there's the difference between teacher salaries and what
the average worker, the average wage. Inflation has been and
teacher salaries have not kept up.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What about other comparable industries.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
So with this work looking at teacher salaries, I also
looked at a bunch of kind of healthcare professions and
there's been similar similar kind of elusion of income across
a read of other housecal professions as well as education.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's a it's always a state funded organization, state funded
industries that seem to have this problem, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (09:13):
Yeah, And you know, I don't lead the government from
making decisions about where to put their money.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, maybe we should privatize everything. Then that might keep up.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
I think there might be some other issues associated with privatization.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Laton, appreciate your time this morning, Laton Watson Senior Lecture
of Mass and Stats, Canterbury, Unique time at seventeen after five.
Where's the cheapest rent in the country?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Next?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Route love
where you live? News talks'd be.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Whose talks would be? We will get to Tom Phillips.
We're speaking to a private investigator who's been tracking this
guy for the last few years. That is just before
six this morning. Ryan, good to have you back, says Clive. Clive,
thank you Ryan. Not only about finding him, he was
also so irrationally, so irrational. This is Tom Phillips. How
could they not have come across this campsite if, in
(10:06):
fact it was two kilometers away from where they were
standing at the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's a good question.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And someone says, you know, why didn't they find this
campsite a year ago? Well, they weren't just in one campsite.
They were moving around the whole era. It's a massive area.
There's a lot of farmland, there's a lot of dense bush,
massive area. They weren't just in one place for the
last four years they were on the run. New data
(10:32):
shows rents down three percent nationwide to the lowest point
since twenty twenty three. New listings while You're drowning in
them up sixteen percent nationwide, and Wellington have more than doubled.
Nick Tuffley, ASBTV conins with us.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This morning, Nick, Good morning, Good morning. So basics supply
and demand.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
Very much an economics lesson in that we've got not
just more listing sort have come through onto the market,
but when you also look in the background, we've gone
from a few years ago we had that really strong
net immigration, rental growth really strong. Now that net immigration
has faded to a whisper and you've got a lot
(11:09):
of supply, a lot of building activity that's still brought
new houses onto the market as well.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
What's bucking this trend which areas well.
Speaker 10 (11:18):
I think in general what you're seeing is when you're
looking at provincial New Zealand, that's where rents have tended
to hold up or increase. In this particular data, there's
been a couple of areas that have done pretty well,
like Southland and West Coast. Now a couple of caveats
areas when you get into a small region you get
(11:38):
a little bit of noise and a bit of bouncing around,
But those ones you've seen some strong rental growth coming through.
But just be aware when you've only got a few
properties on the market and you're comparing to a year ago,
it could be a very different could be a mention
this time could have been at a louthouse last year
that you're comparing to.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Does this have a snowball effect and potentially impact house
prices When you yield started roading for your rental owners,
for your landlords, then the property values start dropping too,
and perhaps they're more inclined to sell.
Speaker 10 (12:09):
It can at the margin. I think what we've got
to remember is that what teams to drive rents over
a long time. There are a lot more linked to
income in terms of what can people actually pay in
less to prices. But it'd be fair to say when
you're looking at a landlord at the moment your income, yes,
that's down, but also think about your costs as well.
For your biggest cost, which is your mortgage, has been
(12:31):
reducing a little bit, but in the background you've still
got a lot of outgoings like your your rates and
your insurance that are still creeping up.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Nick Toughly, a spechief economist on Rent's good to have
you here this morning, twenty two minutes after five interesting
piece from interest dot Co yesterday. You want the cheapest
interest rate in town, go to Masterton. Yeah, I know,
a bit random, but Masterton's where you're heading the wided
upper building society has beaten all the big banks. The
(12:59):
springs on four point five nine percent for two years
is what they're offering you. Four point five nine percent
for two years, first time in twenty years they reckon.
A non bank has had the lowest rate for what
is a popular fixed term one we all like taking.
Almost everyone else is on four point seven five percent.
So there's a sixteen basis point out advantage to your
(13:21):
winded up a building society. However, if you look at
the fine print of what the big banks are offering,
you will probably also get a cash back of three
and a half thousand dollars, which brings you back to
about the same So.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Worth doing your homework as always.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Twenty three after five, I have some thoughts on Tom Phillips.
I'll share them with you next.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
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Speaker 3 (13:45):
AB News Talks their b It is five twenty five.
It's brutal, but Tom Phillips brought this whole thing on himself. Yes,
he was killed, and that is a very hard and
sad fact.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That his kids are going to have to live with
for the rest of their lives. Their dad is dead, but.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
He shot a cop and innocent local constable who was
just trying to do his job. Tom Phillips also deprived
his children of their mum, of any professional medical attention,
of any formal education for four years. Ember was five
when they were taken. Bush hasn't been to school since
she's now nine. The kids were essentially used as helpers
(14:26):
as dad carried out bank robberies, burglaries, breakings. These are
not the actions of a father who wants the best
for his kid. Any parent who loves their child knows
you do not put them in harm's way. Much will
be made of the custody situation in the coming days,
but the fact is we don't know much detail about
this and likely never will. Well, the full story won't
(14:48):
come out. When he went Bush the second time, Tom
was in breach of a custody order. That's about all
we know because family court cases are wrapped up in
suppression Fort Knox in this country to protect the kids.
But whatever happened before court, whatever happened in court, no
matter how unfair or unjust a case may be, If
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you take the law into your own hands, run away
with your own kids, deprive them of an education and
contact with society for four years. Then the outcomes are
yours to own and yours alone. The outcomes are bittersweet.
In this case, a father is dead, a police constable
is in hospital, lucky to be alive, and three children
(15:34):
have survived, at least physically, a dangerous situation.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
They should never have been put in in the first place.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Branbridge.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Right, it is five twenty seven on Newstaloks. You've been
nine two ninety two is the number to text. We
are going to speak just before six this morning to
a private investigator who's been following and tracking Tom Phillips
for the past few years. Right, let's get some numbers
for you. Let's take a look at rates, because I
know how much you love talking about rates from local authorities.
(16:06):
We had numbers out yesterday. Over the past year rates
income was up thirteen point two percent nationally. Thank you
Wayne Brown, thank you Tory Farno, thank you every council
across the well most councils across the country, so up
over thirteen point two percent over the last year, which
(16:26):
is about the average for the past four quarters. There
has never been such a surge in the thirty three
year history of the quarterly data that was released yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So if you feel like your rates bill's gone up.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You're not wrong. Interesting what's happening in Argentina? Harvio Melay.
This is the madman with the chainsaw. Where's the sunglasses inside?
The Trump of South America, they call him. So he
gets in, he's liberty and as the day is long,
hacks government spending, Inflation falls, axes and tire government departments.
Growth increases. Good, right, But he's just underperformed in a
(17:02):
local election in Bonis Series. In fact, he got and
that's half of the population of Argentina is in Buenos Aires.
So in these local elections he gets thirty four percent,
his party, the lefties forty seven percent. So there's pushback
against some of his policies. He's in a bit of
political trouble. Says he'll do a reset. They've got congressional
elections there in October where he's hoping to get more seats,
(17:25):
but that might be an uphill battle.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
News Talk said, b we can.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
Fly away, stealing America decision lived now living died this way.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Ryan bridge and one roofe love where you live?
News Talk said b Again.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
Good morning, it is twenty four minutes away from six
year on news Talk, said Brian. The kids probably had
a better life with dad in the bush. This is
the kind of division that you're seeing come through on
the text machine.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
This is from Jim.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'll wait to see the evidence of the great harm
that's been done to them. It'd be a bloody dream.
I reckon to be in the bush gym. I mean, honestly,
do you want to be running around where the guy
who is carrying weapons and shooting cops? I don't think
that is good for a child. Georgie says Ryan. The
risk of the children was massive. Sure the camp might
have been two kilometers away, but apparently the bush was
(18:35):
so rugged it took them ages to get there, and
it did. There is no good outcome if people are
prepared to use weapons on people, especially police officers. Twenty
three away from six Now, a very quick update on
the housing situation. We've done the rents this morning. Let's
do your values. This is a starter out from QV
for the August quarter. Average home values down point eight
(18:56):
zero point eight percent for the quarter. This is nationally.
Auckland you wore down one point four percent, Gisbone you
are down one point four, Hastings you are up one
point seven percent, bucking the trend there. Wellington down and
I won't be surprising two point four percent, Nelson down
three point two percent, and in Vcagol you are up
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slightly point four. It is twenty three to six. Ryan
jieshwar reporters around the country. Before six we will get
to a private investigator on Tom Phillips and we're live
to Australia Cullen Proctors and to need and Collum. Good morning, morning, Ryan,
A fresh chapter for a small Otago town.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
Yeah, beautiful part of the world.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
This is Toho in the Ida Valley.
Speaker 12 (19:40):
Almost the whole main street of this town is up
for sale thanks to five simultaneous retirements. It means that
three homes and otahuh To Bed and Breakfasts and accommodation park,
are the historic pub there and the oldest operating general
store in New Zealand are all up for sale at
the same time. Ali says they're wanting to hand the
(20:01):
reins over to the next generation and this is a
wonderful opportunity to be a part of a thriving community
population less than one hundred. She says she'd like to
see more young families and business owners take.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Up the offer. How much how much are we paying?
Do we know? A good question?
Speaker 12 (20:17):
PGG you right, so and I think it's handling, handling
the finances. But great opportunity for some New Zealanders.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You get in there.
Speaker 12 (20:24):
How's the weather there, Colum, cloudy periods today, possible light
afternoon shower northerlyas and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
All right, thank you clears than christ Church? Clear, good morning, good.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
This is the good news story out of christ Church
in a way, but the reason not a great one.
Speaker 13 (20:40):
Clear, Yeah, that's exactly right. Look, ten air purifiers have
been gifted to a school down here. This is by
the asper Asthma and Respiratory Foundation that they're donating these
air scrubbers to Tepa O La Kaihotu, which is a
kuda or school in Lindwood. This is you know, seems
a good thing, but it isn't. After some health and
safety reports identified multiple issues with their seventy year old buildings,
(21:04):
including rotting walls, mold growth, and multiple leaks, the ASPAC
and Respiratory Foundation chief executive let teacher Harding says kids
simply can't learn, teachers cannot teach in these kinds of environments.
She says it's not ideal, but it is a temporary
fix for a school that needs better infrastructure investment and
a chance for the government to take stock of our
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learning environment, especially as they transition from open planned classrooms.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
How's your weather clear?
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Fine?
Speaker 13 (21:32):
A bit of high cloud expected this evening Norberis.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And a high sixteen last one max is in Wellington
max the housing stump still the most pronounced in the country.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
We're just given numbers on that.
Speaker 14 (21:42):
Actually, yeah, yeah, let me expand a bit on how
bad it is in Wellington. And look, our peak a
few years ago was just nuts, so the decline was
always going to be greater here. But there does seem
to be such little confidence in the region's market right now.
And this latest qv data has the whole country down
over three months by close twelve percent, but Wellington City
down two and a half percent. That's roughly double the
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fallen christ Church Auckland. We are a pretty astonishing thirty
percent down on what that market peak was in early
twenty twenty two. For an average in the city of
one point four to four million to now barely a million.
Lower hut also massively down. Apparently the better well maintained
homes are doing okay, but you can pick up the
(22:25):
cheaper homes for cheaper basically essentially at the former rentals
as well. I'm not sure these are the ones that'll
be worth five million dollars to a foreign investor. This
is spreading to wide Appa as well apparently, which is
also struggling now. Carterton apparently one of the worst town's
regions in the country as well.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, for a lot of reasons. Oh Cadlan, Hey, are
you a rental or an owner?
Speaker 15 (22:48):
Max?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I'm still a renter because the rental.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Market they have doubled the listings in the past year
that it's not data out this morning as well.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Have you noticed that rents are coming down? Well?
Speaker 14 (23:01):
I have noticed in the past few years that it
is also harder to find tenants for landlords. Landlords seem
to be really struggling. But then you know, for someone
in my position, I could afford to buy a townhouse tomorrow,
but who would want to buy a flat and apartment?
It doesn't seem like a good investment, not as many
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townhouses popping up as saying christ Church, which just seems
to be full of townhouses. And I suppose I'm symptomatic
of the problem where I just don't have any confidence
in buying right now.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah. Interesting. How's your weather?
Speaker 14 (23:34):
A little cloud around, stronger norther least thirteen the high central.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Respue Cheers Max Neighbors and Auckland Hay Neighborreetings, We've got
a traffic management company in liquidation.
Speaker 16 (23:43):
Yes, now, this big Auckland traffic management company called Absolute
Traffic Solutions based in Witty being liquidated over a one
point one million dollars the old and the revenue debt,
costing eighty five people their jobs. Dig Be Noise.
Speaker 10 (23:59):
What a great name.
Speaker 16 (24:00):
Anyway, he's saying about sixty staff. They have since been
re employed. This is on short term contracts. He's going
to sell the business. Employees owed about four hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. Just another one, isn't it of you know,
the latest one. So this Absolute Traffic Solutions, you know
they do everything from traffic management and hiring all those
you know, while equipment hire really an emergency response.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Stop ghost signs.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It's very sad. And whenever anyone loses their jobs. It
is very sad news. But there will be people who
will celebrate this as some sort of victory against road comes.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 16 (24:34):
That's the first thing I saw.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
When I saw this, I thought, oh gosh, how's our weather?
Speaker 16 (24:38):
Okay, cloudy isolated Charles from afternoon fifteen is the high
here in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Brilliant Neva, Thank you. It is seventeen away from six.
You're listening to News Talk ZVB a private investigator on
Tom Phillips. Before six. We're live in Australia. Aaron Patterson
will be eighty two before she is allowed out of
prison over the mushroom deaths.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance, peace of mind for
New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
He talks a bit as fourteen away from sex. We'll
get to a private investigator on Tom Phillips in just
a second. First we are going to Donaldamao, Australia correspondent.
Here is the Beef Wellington survivor, Ian Wilkinson speaking outside
court after the mushroom lady is she's become known. Aaron
Patterson gets thirty three years.
Speaker 17 (25:23):
They made a professional efficient, had effective investigation into what
happened at the lunch. They brought to light the truth
of what happened with the death of free, good people.
We're grateful for their skills that brought this truth to light.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Donald Demayo is an Australia correspondent. Donna, what's the reaction
being to that sentence, Well, of.
Speaker 18 (25:47):
Course everyone wanted to know what would happen with Aaron
Patterson after that ten week trial, and we know that
huge crowds were at the court inside and outside. Many
people tried to get a snap or a glimpse as
the prison van left yesterday afternoon. Interestingly, we've noted that
Simon Patterson, the estranged husband, did not attend their sentencing hearing,
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as we know he was the last minute withdrawal from
that fatal lunch. He has not spoken to the media
and word is now that he's planning a podcast, so
stay tuned for that. We also, of course heard from
the judge who said that Eron's failure to exhibit any
remorse pause salt into the victim's wounds, and the judge
(26:31):
also said she not only cut short three lives, she
inflicted untold suffering on her own children. Whom she robbed
of their beloved grandparents. Another thing that Ian Wilkinson, the
survivor said in that statement is that he said, I'd
like to encourage everybody to be kind to each other.
(26:51):
We know now that the non prop period is thirty
three years, and we do believe that Erin will be
in solitary confinement for most of those years. As we mentioned,
you know, the judge are noting that she's shown no remorse,
but also he said only she knows why she committed
these crimes.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Donna, thanks to that update. Donnod to my our Australia correspondent.
It is twelve minutes away.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
From six Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Tom Phillips is dead, the three kids are safe. The
a cop who was shot, expected to survive. They were
found in the campground about two k's from the quad
bike shootout location.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Bush was rough and rugged, and.
Speaker 19 (27:29):
I can tell you with great relief this evening that
soon after four thirty today we've located Tom phillips remaining children.
They've been found in a camp site not far from here,
further up the Tioga Road. I can confirm that the
children are well and uninjured.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Chris Budge is a private investigator who was looking for
Tom Phillips with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Chris, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 15 (27:56):
Certainly an exciting but sad day.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
What did you make of the low location.
Speaker 15 (28:02):
That's within within the thought pattern? Everybody thought the sort
of sort of halfway between the triangle of Osrahanng and
Maricoppa and the dairy where he's been seen more than once.
So it's certainly within the area. It'd be interesting to
see what comes out around camp site, you know, it
was it was it structured exactly what was there and
(28:24):
that that's what the police were going through on their
forensic examination.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
What sort of square kilometers area are we talking about
that we thought he was in?
Speaker 15 (28:34):
Well, overall, it's kind of thought it was round about
a sixty kilometer square area going all the way up
to calf here at the north and probably the dairy
area where he's seeing to the south, and that area
there is it has some very rugged parts that country
road gravel roads, as we saw in the media last night.
(28:54):
So certainly there are isolated little communities and also buildings
are certainly plenty of farts, so it is an area
that is quite hard to look through, which is obviously
why the police were been able to locate them over
the last few years.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
What about the heat seeking thing, This idea that you
can get choppers up, you can get drones up and
they will give you thermal imaging and you should be
able to find them.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Were they in a cave?
Speaker 15 (29:16):
No, No, Thermal imaging is actually quite easy to hide behind.
I do go out hunting and you could have an
animal or a person hiding behind a solid tree trunk
or under a level of a foliage and the thermals
will not come out. So it's not one hundred percent guarantee.
You would have to have them in a semi open
(29:37):
or under a light foliage to be able to be
able to spot them. So it's one method of investigation,
but it's not absolute.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Some people say that Tom Phillips is a hero, that
he has done you did the right thing, that there
was a custody, a disput et cetera.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What do you say to those people.
Speaker 15 (29:53):
I have looked at the social media over the last
twenty four hours and previously, but especially over the last
twenty four hours, and listen, I'm really surprised with the
negativity around people that people are saying things like I
hope the cop doesn't survive. The system is dad people
are bullies. I find that absolutely disgusting. We have a
(30:19):
circumstances where I have said for quite from the very
start of a situation of a father who has abscondered,
have abducted his children away from the wider family group,
and it's not just the father's decision, it's more around
removing choice in socialization for those children and hiding away
(30:40):
from everybody. So I think those people are wrong and
taking a really big chill prill in regards to what
our the Zealand society is all about. It's more about
being together, being with families and giving children the best opportunity.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
That they could have.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Chris Budge, private investigator who was looking for Tom Phillips.
It is eight to six news Talks.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Eb get ahead the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Branch and one roof Love where you Live News Talks.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
That'd be sixty six on News Talks. He'd be loads
of texts on Tom Phillips. As you can imagine people,
most people saying you cannot do that, but some people
still defending him. A bit of housekeeping for Early Edition
this morning.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I always loved listening to your Wellington reporter Max's update.
He always has something amusing to say. I agree he does. Interestingly,
he always says the weather followed by the word central.
Is this a British thing or a Max quirk? Well,
we have to ask him.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Lots of people also asking what was the song we
played after the five point thirty news Olivia Dean Man,
I need was the song?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Mike is in the studio, Mike, good morning.
Speaker 15 (31:39):
Good morning.
Speaker 20 (31:39):
I'm just reading about Absolute Traffic Solutions.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yes, do you know about them?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yes, I've just heard that they are eighty five staff,
although sixty you've already found new short term contracts.
Speaker 20 (31:49):
How is it possible that you can be in the
business of traffic management in New Zealand and be outage
and not run your company to the point where you're
making not only a profit but some sort of exorbitant
profit and you're living in the Bahamas?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Is this the Wayne Brown anti Cone effect? Though taking force,
taking action?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Perhaps it is.
Speaker 20 (32:08):
Is one hundred and ten thousand dollars a reasonable income.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
For one person or a household one person? I think so?
Speaker 20 (32:16):
Teacher, that's what a teacher is.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, and you can't.
Speaker 20 (32:19):
You're getting to the point. Brian Roach is on the
program after seven o'clock this morning. You're getting to the
point applies to the nurses. Nurses earn even more, and
every time I raise it, people go mental, They go,
I know somebody and they don't, et cetera. And you
can't argue with the numbers. You're talking about a primary
teacher on one hundred and ten thousand dollars. It's got
to the point now where you're starting to think, because
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there's the whole thing with industrial relations is sympathy, of course,
and we're on their side, aren't we, you know, because
we like teachers, we like nurses, we like doctors. But
there comes a point where in a country where the
average wages seventy to eighty thousand dollars that you're going
I tell you what, one ten's not bad.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And no one else is getting two and a half percent.
Speaker 20 (33:01):
Well when you say two and a half, it's actually
four percent. Yeah, yeah, you're adding these numbers to give
you think.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
That because all of these and these industries that we
talk about are all government funded, aren't they?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So what if we just privatize them all?
Speaker 20 (33:15):
Well, you could do that or you could. You know,
I've always argued you pay teachers on merit. In other words,
you know you're good, I'll give you two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars, and over here the useless one earns
forty two.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Which they argue, know you will strip all the poorer
schools of the good teacher, of.
Speaker 20 (33:30):
Course, and so that's fine. So the downside of what
they want is that everybody gets the same thing. Therefore
the bill is gargantu and every time you get a
pay rise, but there comes a point where you start
to think.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
How much enough's enough? Just what is it?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
It's a good bargaining technic. Either take this offer or
will privatize is a little.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Bit of that.
Speaker 20 (33:50):
We'll see how much frustration we'll get from Brian Roach.
Please skimmission of this morning as well. We're ready chambers
back in the MICA's next.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Have a great day, everybody, see you tomorrow on Early Editions.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live
to news Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or
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The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
earlier this show with one roof Love where You Live
News Talk Sai'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good morning on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
The private investigator who's been hunting Tom Phillips for years,
well after Australia on the Mushroom Killer. Rental prices lowest
in two years and the teacher pay.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The minimum wage comparison that will surprise her.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
The agenda It is Tuesday the nineteen September to Jerusalem.
Palestinian gunman opening fire and start shooting at Israeli's at
a bus stop.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Six dead.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
The idea of says the shooters were then shot by
an off Judy soldier.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
These murders, these attacks on all fronts, do not deter us.
They only increased our distermination to complete the missions we
have taken upon ourselves in Gaza, in Judea and Samaria everywhere.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Mushroom Lady, she's going to be in jail until at
least the age of eighty two for killing her family
with Beeth Wellington.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Only did you cut short three lives and cause lasting
damage to Ian Wilkinson's health, thereby devastating the extended Patterson
and Wilkinson families. You inflicted untold suffering on your own children,
whom you robbed of their beloved grandparents.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And to France we go now, whereas bye bye Bayrou
The French are chewing through leaders quicker than you can
get through a beget. This is Macron's centrist guy lost
the confidence vote just two minutes ago. Government on the
brink of collapse. Dick crisis continues, his BUYERU trying to
save himself.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I believe in our in the different diffront of powers
and the strength of our institutions. This is why I'm masking.
This says why, in the face of our democratic situation
and the help of our nation, I asked that we
found within ourselves the shared conviction to find an agreement
(01:56):
here and is through.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live news Talks.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
They'd be flip me in Texas Morning Love, hearing from
you nine to nine to two, lipens.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That's hard right.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
She's up out of her seat, she's up in arms,
she's beating the drum for new elections over in France.
Goodness me, could they get through anyway? I think he's
been through five prime ministers now in two years, Macron,
because remember they stitched together a government from all the
strange bedfellows on the left to keep the far right
out after the last elections, which were during the camp
(02:33):
the Olympics. Remember we were watching the Olympics and they
sort of put it all on hold and then they
went back. Wasn't that long ago, was it? Anyway, the
debt crisis continues. A friend of mine is French, and
she tells me about the enormous expenditure that goes on
to things you just wouldn't dream of here. I mean,
you think our health system costs a lot. Go live
(02:54):
in France. They have almost like an uber So if
you get sick and you need to go to the hospital,
normally you if it's an emergency, you call an ambulance.
Otherwise you drive yourself, you take public transport. They have
basically a dedicated uber service that gets anyone who's broken
a fingernail, pays for them, The state pays for them
to go. This thing cost has blown out from something
(03:16):
like a couple one hundred million to something like eight
billion dollars, and they wonder why they're in debt. Family
member of mine was over there last week. Got a
tooth problem when in as a foreigner. When in, how
much does it cost? Twenty three euros? So good luck everybody.
Now I want to talk to you about Wellington. So
(03:37):
Wellington Region getting new electric trains, eighteen of them.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
They will be eighteen five car battery electric multiple units,
same saying, but different to the ones that you're standing
next to. They will bed in the route between here
and Masterton or the wider Upper service, and they will
consid the service between here and Thalmerston North.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
All right, good, great. The other ones are from the seventies.
They need to be replaced. But oh, Captain Chippy's not
happy about all this.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
It's a re announcement of a re announcement of a
re announcement. The trains have been on the way for
the Lower North Island for quite some time now. I
think Chris Bishops re announced them about four times already,
probably because he hasn't really got much new to announce
of his own work.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Okay, what he's not telling you is that back in
September of twenty twenty three, when Labor was in power
and Chippy was driving the train, there was a problem.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Here's what he didn't tell you.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
They had a wait for it cost blowout fifty million
dollars to get the tracks sorted before the trains came.
They had a wait for it delay four years. They
had a wait for it funding shortfull, no guarantee who
would pay for that. The original price was seventy eight million,
the new price one hundred and twenty eight million dollars.
Sounds a little bit like the ferries, doesn't it, Or
(04:57):
the Tahara and Auckland thing with a ghost train where
nobody used it. At least this time, hopefully, it looks
like we're going to get the job done. Eleven after
five news talks, here'd be teacher, pay the minimum wage.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Next views and views you trust to start your day.
It's earlier this ship with Bryan Bridge and one route
love where you live?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Five news talks'd be bive.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Thirteen on news talks, he'd be with Tom Phillips. Can
you blame police for not finding him for four years?
How is it that a man can go missing with
three children in bush, in a small place like New
Zealand and not be found. There'll be criticism of the police,
I bet, but I think you've got to go easy
on them, because look, I mean even in Australia, you've
(05:39):
got that sovereign citizen guy on the run. He's killed
two Victorian police officers. He's on the run. Sure, it's
only been weeks, not years. But if a person knows
the terrain, knows the bush like the back of his hand,
he has an advantage. This guy is bush hardened. I mean, yes,
you can, you can pick around the edges at the
(06:00):
police response, but I don't think is there a police
force in the world that would have come here and
found Tom Phillips.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That is the question.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Fourteen after five newspapers Rambridge, do the secondary teachers have
a leg to stand on? That's the question the union
are telling their members they should vote down the government's
new payoffer. This is after the Ministry doubled the previous
one two point five percent in the first year two
percent in the next lighton Watson's senior lecture of Mass
and Stats at Canterbury Unions with me this morning late
and good.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
Morning, good morning worry. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So you don't think this is enough. You've done a
comparison to the minimum wage as a benchmark what is
the difference.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
So teacher salaries have kind of plummeted relative to the
minimum wage and I guess, maybe more importantly to the
median wage over the past twenty five years. In nineteen
ninety nine, beginning teachers paid thirty three thousand dollars and
nowadays they're paid sixty four thousand dollars, which seems like
like a great increase. But if a beginning teachers paid
(06:59):
the same amount now as they were in nineteenninety nine
relative to the minimum wage, that the earning of one
hundred thousand dollars, and if they're paid the same as
they were relative to the median wage offer have kept
up with median wage inflation, then they're be getting paid
eighty one thousand dollars or about seventeen thousand dollars more
than they're currently paid.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, so you reckon they should be getting at least
seventeen grand more than they're currently being paid. Would this
new offer not do there?
Speaker 9 (07:24):
This new offer is an increase of two point five
to two point seventy five percent, depending on where they
sit on the salary scale, which equates to about thirteen
hundred or two thousand, five hundred dollars depending off the
bottom or the top of the salary scale, and over
the last twenty five years they're decreased relative to the
meeting wage. Sofer, if teacher salaries had kept out with
(07:45):
the average wage inflation, then they should be earning seventeen
thousand dollars. And I'm not really making adjudgment here, I'm
just giving you the numbers that seventeen thousand dollars is
a lot more than thirteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, understand So with the minimum wage comparison, is everybody
not in everyone who's working right now?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Have they not?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Also because the minimum wages shot up, I mean we're
going up twenty two percent in the last two in
the last three years.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Alone of the labor government.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Has everyone not fallen behind and in relative terms to
the minimum wage because it's been ramped up so rapidly.
Speaker 9 (08:16):
Yeah, So all about twenty five years, minimum wagees increased
by factor of three, whereas teacher salaries have only increased
by factor of two. But I guess the difference is
the medium wages increased by factor of two point five,
And so that's really that. You know, you can make
arguments about the minimum wage should be higher than it
was of seven dollars twenty five years ago. And I
don't think people are going to argue with that. But
(08:38):
I think there's the difference between teacher salaries and what
the average worker, the average wage. Inflation has been and
teacher salaries have not kept up.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What about other comparable industries.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
So with this work looking at teacher salaries, I also
looked at a bunch of kind of healthcare professions and
there's been similar similar kind of elusion of income across
a read of other housecal professions as well as education.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's a it's always a state funded organization, state funded
industries that seem to have this problem, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (09:13):
Yeah, And you know, I don't lead the government from
making decisions about where to put their money.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, maybe we should privatize everything. Then that might keep up.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
I think there might be some other issues associated with privatization.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Laton, appreciate your time this morning, Laton Watson Senior Lecture
of Mass and Stats, Canterbury, Unique time at seventeen after five.
Where's the cheapest rent in the country?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Next?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Route love
where you live? News talks'd be.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Whose talks would be? We will get to Tom Phillips.
We're speaking to a private investigator who's been tracking this
guy for the last few years. That is just before
six this morning. Ryan, good to have you back, says Clive. Clive,
thank you Ryan. Not only about finding him, he was
also so irrationally, so irrational. This is Tom Phillips. How
could they not have come across this campsite if, in
(10:06):
fact it was two kilometers away from where they were
standing at the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's a good question.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And someone says, you know, why didn't they find this
campsite a year ago? Well, they weren't just in one campsite.
They were moving around the whole era. It's a massive area.
There's a lot of farmland, there's a lot of dense bush,
massive area. They weren't just in one place for the
last four years they were on the run. New data
(10:32):
shows rents down three percent nationwide to the lowest point
since twenty twenty three. New listings while You're drowning in
them up sixteen percent nationwide, and Wellington have more than doubled.
Nick Tuffley, ASBTV conins with us.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This morning, Nick, Good morning, Good morning. So basics supply
and demand.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
Very much an economics lesson in that we've got not
just more listing sort have come through onto the market,
but when you also look in the background, we've gone
from a few years ago we had that really strong
net immigration, rental growth really strong. Now that net immigration
has faded to a whisper and you've got a lot
(11:09):
of supply, a lot of building activity that's still brought
new houses onto the market as well.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
What's bucking this trend which areas well.
Speaker 10 (11:18):
I think in general what you're seeing is when you're
looking at provincial New Zealand, that's where rents have tended
to hold up or increase. In this particular data, there's
been a couple of areas that have done pretty well,
like Southland and West Coast. Now a couple of caveats
areas when you get into a small region you get
(11:38):
a little bit of noise and a bit of bouncing around,
But those ones you've seen some strong rental growth coming through.
But just be aware when you've only got a few
properties on the market and you're comparing to a year ago,
it could be a very different could be a mention
this time could have been at a louthouse last year
that you're comparing to.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Does this have a snowball effect and potentially impact house
prices When you yield started roading for your rental owners,
for your landlords, then the property values start dropping too,
and perhaps they're more inclined to sell.
Speaker 10 (12:09):
It can at the margin. I think what we've got
to remember is that what teams to drive rents over
a long time. There are a lot more linked to
income in terms of what can people actually pay in
less to prices. But it'd be fair to say when
you're looking at a landlord at the moment your income, yes,
that's down, but also think about your costs as well.
For your biggest cost, which is your mortgage, has been
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reducing a little bit, but in the background you've still
got a lot of outgoings like your your rates and
your insurance that are still creeping up.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Nick Toughly, a spechief economist on Rent's good to have
you here this morning, twenty two minutes after five interesting
piece from interest dot Co yesterday. You want the cheapest
interest rate in town, go to Masterton. Yeah, I know,
a bit random, but Masterton's where you're heading the wided
upper building society has beaten all the big banks. The
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springs on four point five nine percent for two years
is what they're offering you. Four point five nine percent
for two years, first time in twenty years they reckon.
A non bank has had the lowest rate for what
is a popular fixed term one we all like taking.
Almost everyone else is on four point seven five percent.
So there's a sixteen basis point out advantage to your
(13:21):
winded up a building society. However, if you look at
the fine print of what the big banks are offering,
you will probably also get a cash back of three
and a half thousand dollars, which brings you back to
about the same So.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Worth doing your homework as always.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Twenty three after five, I have some thoughts on Tom Phillips.
I'll share them with you next.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
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Speaker 3 (13:45):
AB News Talks their b It is five twenty five.
It's brutal, but Tom Phillips brought this whole thing on himself. Yes,
he was killed, and that is a very hard and
sad fact.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That his kids are going to have to live with
for the rest of their lives. Their dad is dead, but.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
He shot a cop and innocent local constable who was
just trying to do his job. Tom Phillips also deprived
his children of their mum, of any professional medical attention,
of any formal education for four years. Ember was five
when they were taken. Bush hasn't been to school since
she's now nine. The kids were essentially used as helpers
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as dad carried out bank robberies, burglaries, breakings. These are
not the actions of a father who wants the best
for his kid. Any parent who loves their child knows
you do not put them in harm's way. Much will
be made of the custody situation in the coming days,
but the fact is we don't know much detail about
this and likely never will. Well, the full story won't
(14:48):
come out. When he went Bush the second time, Tom
was in breach of a custody order. That's about all
we know because family court cases are wrapped up in
suppression Fort Knox in this country to protect the kids.
But whatever happened before court, whatever happened in court, no
matter how unfair or unjust a case may be, If
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you take the law into your own hands, run away
with your own kids, deprive them of an education and
contact with society for four years. Then the outcomes are
yours to own and yours alone. The outcomes are bittersweet.
In this case, a father is dead, a police constable
is in hospital, lucky to be alive, and three children
(15:34):
have survived, at least physically, a dangerous situation.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
They should never have been put in in the first place.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Branbridge.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Right, it is five twenty seven on Newstaloks. You've been
nine two ninety two is the number to text. We
are going to speak just before six this morning to
a private investigator who's been following and tracking Tom Phillips
for the past few years. Right, let's get some numbers
for you. Let's take a look at rates, because I
know how much you love talking about rates from local authorities.
(16:06):
We had numbers out yesterday. Over the past year rates
income was up thirteen point two percent nationally. Thank you
Wayne Brown, thank you Tory Farno, thank you every council
across the well most councils across the country, so up
over thirteen point two percent over the last year, which
(16:26):
is about the average for the past four quarters. There
has never been such a surge in the thirty three
year history of the quarterly data that was released yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So if you feel like your rates bill's gone up.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You're not wrong. Interesting what's happening in Argentina? Harvio Melay.
This is the madman with the chainsaw. Where's the sunglasses inside?
The Trump of South America, they call him. So he
gets in, he's liberty and as the day is long,
hacks government spending, Inflation falls, axes and tire government departments.
Growth increases. Good, right, But he's just underperformed in a
(17:02):
local election in Bonis Series. In fact, he got and
that's half of the population of Argentina is in Buenos Aires.
So in these local elections he gets thirty four percent,
his party, the lefties forty seven percent. So there's pushback
against some of his policies. He's in a bit of
political trouble. Says he'll do a reset. They've got congressional
elections there in October where he's hoping to get more seats,
(17:25):
but that might be an uphill battle.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
News Talk said, b we can.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
Fly away, stealing America decision lived now living died this way.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Ryan bridge and one roofe love where you live?
News Talk said b Again.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
Good morning, it is twenty four minutes away from six
year on news Talk, said Brian. The kids probably had
a better life with dad in the bush. This is
the kind of division that you're seeing come through on
the text machine.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
This is from Jim.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'll wait to see the evidence of the great harm
that's been done to them. It'd be a bloody dream.
I reckon to be in the bush gym. I mean, honestly,
do you want to be running around where the guy
who is carrying weapons and shooting cops? I don't think
that is good for a child. Georgie says Ryan. The
risk of the children was massive. Sure the camp might
have been two kilometers away, but apparently the bush was
(18:35):
so rugged it took them ages to get there, and
it did. There is no good outcome if people are
prepared to use weapons on people, especially police officers. Twenty
three away from six Now, a very quick update on
the housing situation. We've done the rents this morning. Let's
do your values. This is a starter out from QV
for the August quarter. Average home values down point eight
(18:56):
zero point eight percent for the quarter. This is nationally.
Auckland you wore down one point four percent, Gisbone you
are down one point four, Hastings you are up one
point seven percent, bucking the trend there. Wellington down and
I won't be surprising two point four percent, Nelson down
three point two percent, and in Vcagol you are up
(19:17):
slightly point four. It is twenty three to six. Ryan
jieshwar reporters around the country. Before six we will get
to a private investigator on Tom Phillips and we're live
to Australia Cullen Proctors and to need and Collum. Good morning, morning, Ryan,
A fresh chapter for a small Otago town.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
Yeah, beautiful part of the world.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
This is Toho in the Ida Valley.
Speaker 12 (19:40):
Almost the whole main street of this town is up
for sale thanks to five simultaneous retirements. It means that
three homes and otahuh To Bed and Breakfasts and accommodation park,
are the historic pub there and the oldest operating general
store in New Zealand are all up for sale at
the same time. Ali says they're wanting to hand the
(20:01):
reins over to the next generation and this is a
wonderful opportunity to be a part of a thriving community
population less than one hundred. She says she'd like to
see more young families and business owners take.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Up the offer. How much how much are we paying?
Do we know? A good question?
Speaker 12 (20:17):
PGG you right, so and I think it's handling, handling
the finances. But great opportunity for some New Zealanders.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You get in there.
Speaker 12 (20:24):
How's the weather there, Colum, cloudy periods today, possible light
afternoon shower northerlyas and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
All right, thank you clears than christ Church? Clear, good morning, good.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
This is the good news story out of christ Church
in a way, but the reason not a great one.
Speaker 13 (20:40):
Clear, Yeah, that's exactly right. Look, ten air purifiers have
been gifted to a school down here. This is by
the asper Asthma and Respiratory Foundation that they're donating these
air scrubbers to Tepa O La Kaihotu, which is a
kuda or school in Lindwood. This is you know, seems
a good thing, but it isn't. After some health and
safety reports identified multiple issues with their seventy year old buildings,
(21:04):
including rotting walls, mold growth, and multiple leaks, the ASPAC
and Respiratory Foundation chief executive let teacher Harding says kids
simply can't learn, teachers cannot teach in these kinds of environments.
She says it's not ideal, but it is a temporary
fix for a school that needs better infrastructure investment and
a chance for the government to take stock of our
(21:25):
learning environment, especially as they transition from open planned classrooms.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
How's your weather clear?
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Fine?
Speaker 13 (21:32):
A bit of high cloud expected this evening Norberis.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And a high sixteen last one max is in Wellington
max the housing stump still the most pronounced in the country.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
We're just given numbers on that.
Speaker 14 (21:42):
Actually, yeah, yeah, let me expand a bit on how
bad it is in Wellington. And look, our peak a
few years ago was just nuts, so the decline was
always going to be greater here. But there does seem
to be such little confidence in the region's market right now.
And this latest qv data has the whole country down
over three months by close twelve percent, but Wellington City
down two and a half percent. That's roughly double the
(22:04):
fallen christ Church Auckland. We are a pretty astonishing thirty
percent down on what that market peak was in early
twenty twenty two. For an average in the city of
one point four to four million to now barely a million.
Lower hut also massively down. Apparently the better well maintained
homes are doing okay, but you can pick up the
(22:25):
cheaper homes for cheaper basically essentially at the former rentals
as well. I'm not sure these are the ones that'll
be worth five million dollars to a foreign investor. This
is spreading to wide Appa as well apparently, which is
also struggling now. Carterton apparently one of the worst town's
regions in the country as well.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, for a lot of reasons. Oh Cadlan, Hey, are
you a rental or an owner?
Speaker 15 (22:48):
Max?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I'm still a renter because the rental.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Market they have doubled the listings in the past year
that it's not data out this morning as well.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Have you noticed that rents are coming down? Well?
Speaker 14 (23:01):
I have noticed in the past few years that it
is also harder to find tenants for landlords. Landlords seem
to be really struggling. But then you know, for someone
in my position, I could afford to buy a townhouse tomorrow,
but who would want to buy a flat and apartment?
It doesn't seem like a good investment, not as many
(23:21):
townhouses popping up as saying christ Church, which just seems
to be full of townhouses. And I suppose I'm symptomatic
of the problem where I just don't have any confidence
in buying right now.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah. Interesting. How's your weather?
Speaker 14 (23:34):
A little cloud around, stronger norther least thirteen the high central.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Respue Cheers Max Neighbors and Auckland Hay Neighborreetings, We've got
a traffic management company in liquidation.
Speaker 16 (23:43):
Yes, now, this big Auckland traffic management company called Absolute
Traffic Solutions based in Witty being liquidated over a one
point one million dollars the old and the revenue debt,
costing eighty five people their jobs. Dig Be Noise.
Speaker 10 (23:59):
What a great name.
Speaker 16 (24:00):
Anyway, he's saying about sixty staff. They have since been
re employed. This is on short term contracts. He's going
to sell the business. Employees owed about four hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. Just another one, isn't it of you know,
the latest one. So this Absolute Traffic Solutions, you know
they do everything from traffic management and hiring all those
you know, while equipment hire really an emergency response.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Stop ghost signs.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It's very sad. And whenever anyone loses their jobs. It
is very sad news. But there will be people who
will celebrate this as some sort of victory against road comes.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 16 (24:34):
That's the first thing I saw.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
When I saw this, I thought, oh gosh, how's our weather?
Speaker 16 (24:38):
Okay, cloudy isolated Charles from afternoon fifteen is the high
here in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Brilliant Neva, Thank you. It is seventeen away from six.
You're listening to News Talk ZVB a private investigator on
Tom Phillips. Before six. We're live in Australia. Aaron Patterson
will be eighty two before she is allowed out of
prison over the mushroom deaths.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance, peace of mind for
New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
He talks a bit as fourteen away from sex. We'll
get to a private investigator on Tom Phillips in just
a second. First we are going to Donaldamao, Australia correspondent.
Here is the Beef Wellington survivor, Ian Wilkinson speaking outside
court after the mushroom lady is she's become known. Aaron
Patterson gets thirty three years.
Speaker 17 (25:23):
They made a professional efficient, had effective investigation into what
happened at the lunch. They brought to light the truth
of what happened with the death of free, good people.
We're grateful for their skills that brought this truth to light.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Donald Demayo is an Australia correspondent. Donna, what's the reaction
being to that sentence, Well, of.
Speaker 18 (25:47):
Course everyone wanted to know what would happen with Aaron
Patterson after that ten week trial, and we know that
huge crowds were at the court inside and outside. Many
people tried to get a snap or a glimpse as
the prison van left yesterday afternoon. Interestingly, we've noted that
Simon Patterson, the estranged husband, did not attend their sentencing hearing,
(26:11):
as we know he was the last minute withdrawal from
that fatal lunch. He has not spoken to the media
and word is now that he's planning a podcast, so
stay tuned for that. We also, of course heard from
the judge who said that Eron's failure to exhibit any
remorse pause salt into the victim's wounds, and the judge
(26:31):
also said she not only cut short three lives, she
inflicted untold suffering on her own children. Whom she robbed
of their beloved grandparents. Another thing that Ian Wilkinson, the
survivor said in that statement is that he said, I'd
like to encourage everybody to be kind to each other.
(26:51):
We know now that the non prop period is thirty
three years, and we do believe that Erin will be
in solitary confinement for most of those years. As we mentioned,
you know, the judge are noting that she's shown no remorse,
but also he said only she knows why she committed
these crimes.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Donna, thanks to that update. Donnod to my our Australia correspondent.
It is twelve minutes away.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
From six Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Tom Phillips is dead, the three kids are safe. The
a cop who was shot, expected to survive. They were
found in the campground about two k's from the quad
bike shootout location.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Bush was rough and rugged, and.
Speaker 19 (27:29):
I can tell you with great relief this evening that
soon after four thirty today we've located Tom phillips remaining children.
They've been found in a camp site not far from here,
further up the Tioga Road. I can confirm that the
children are well and uninjured.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Chris Budge is a private investigator who was looking for
Tom Phillips with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Chris, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 15 (27:56):
Certainly an exciting but sad day.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
What did you make of the low location.
Speaker 15 (28:02):
That's within within the thought pattern? Everybody thought the sort
of sort of halfway between the triangle of Osrahanng and
Maricoppa and the dairy where he's been seen more than once.
So it's certainly within the area. It'd be interesting to
see what comes out around camp site, you know, it
was it was it structured exactly what was there and
(28:24):
that that's what the police were going through on their
forensic examination.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
What sort of square kilometers area are we talking about
that we thought he was in?
Speaker 15 (28:34):
Well, overall, it's kind of thought it was round about
a sixty kilometer square area going all the way up
to calf here at the north and probably the dairy
area where he's seeing to the south, and that area
there is it has some very rugged parts that country
road gravel roads, as we saw in the media last night.
(28:54):
So certainly there are isolated little communities and also buildings
are certainly plenty of farts, so it is an area
that is quite hard to look through, which is obviously
why the police were been able to locate them over
the last few years.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
What about the heat seeking thing, This idea that you
can get choppers up, you can get drones up and
they will give you thermal imaging and you should be
able to find them.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Were they in a cave?
Speaker 15 (29:16):
No, No, Thermal imaging is actually quite easy to hide behind.
I do go out hunting and you could have an
animal or a person hiding behind a solid tree trunk
or under a level of a foliage and the thermals
will not come out. So it's not one hundred percent guarantee.
You would have to have them in a semi open
(29:37):
or under a light foliage to be able to be
able to spot them. So it's one method of investigation,
but it's not absolute.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Some people say that Tom Phillips is a hero, that
he has done you did the right thing, that there
was a custody, a disput et cetera.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What do you say to those people.
Speaker 15 (29:53):
I have looked at the social media over the last
twenty four hours and previously, but especially over the last
twenty four hours, and listen, I'm really surprised with the
negativity around people that people are saying things like I
hope the cop doesn't survive. The system is dad people
are bullies. I find that absolutely disgusting. We have a
(30:19):
circumstances where I have said for quite from the very
start of a situation of a father who has abscondered,
have abducted his children away from the wider family group,
and it's not just the father's decision, it's more around
removing choice in socialization for those children and hiding away
(30:40):
from everybody. So I think those people are wrong and
taking a really big chill prill in regards to what
our the Zealand society is all about. It's more about
being together, being with families and giving children the best opportunity.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
That they could have.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Chris Budge, private investigator who was looking for Tom Phillips.
It is eight to six news Talks.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Eb get ahead the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Branch and one roof Love where you Live News Talks.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
That'd be sixty six on News Talks. He'd be loads
of texts on Tom Phillips. As you can imagine people,
most people saying you cannot do that, but some people
still defending him. A bit of housekeeping for Early Edition
this morning.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I always loved listening to your Wellington reporter Max's update.
He always has something amusing to say. I agree he does. Interestingly,
he always says the weather followed by the word central.
Is this a British thing or a Max quirk? Well,
we have to ask him.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Lots of people also asking what was the song we
played after the five point thirty news Olivia Dean Man,
I need was the song?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Mike is in the studio, Mike, good morning.
Speaker 15 (31:39):
Good morning.
Speaker 20 (31:39):
I'm just reading about Absolute Traffic Solutions.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yes, do you know about them?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yes, I've just heard that they are eighty five staff,
although sixty you've already found new short term contracts.
Speaker 20 (31:49):
How is it possible that you can be in the
business of traffic management in New Zealand and be outage
and not run your company to the point where you're
making not only a profit but some sort of exorbitant
profit and you're living in the Bahamas?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Is this the Wayne Brown anti Cone effect? Though taking force,
taking action?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Perhaps it is.
Speaker 20 (32:08):
Is one hundred and ten thousand dollars a reasonable income.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
For one person or a household one person? I think so?
Speaker 20 (32:16):
Teacher, that's what a teacher is.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, and you can't.
Speaker 20 (32:19):
You're getting to the point. Brian Roach is on the
program after seven o'clock this morning. You're getting to the
point applies to the nurses. Nurses earn even more, and
every time I raise it, people go mental, They go,
I know somebody and they don't, et cetera. And you
can't argue with the numbers. You're talking about a primary
teacher on one hundred and ten thousand dollars. It's got
to the point now where you're starting to think, because
(32:40):
there's the whole thing with industrial relations is sympathy, of course,
and we're on their side, aren't we, you know, because
we like teachers, we like nurses, we like doctors. But
there comes a point where in a country where the
average wages seventy to eighty thousand dollars that you're going
I tell you what, one ten's not bad.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And no one else is getting two and a half percent.
Speaker 20 (33:01):
Well when you say two and a half, it's actually
four percent. Yeah, yeah, you're adding these numbers to give
you think.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
That because all of these and these industries that we
talk about are all government funded, aren't they?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So what if we just privatize them all?
Speaker 20 (33:15):
Well, you could do that or you could. You know,
I've always argued you pay teachers on merit. In other words,
you know you're good, I'll give you two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars, and over here the useless one earns
forty two.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Which they argue, know you will strip all the poorer
schools of the good teacher, of.
Speaker 20 (33:30):
Course, and so that's fine. So the downside of what
they want is that everybody gets the same thing. Therefore
the bill is gargantu and every time you get a
pay rise, but there comes a point where you start
to think.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
How much enough's enough? Just what is it?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
It's a good bargaining technic. Either take this offer or
will privatize is a little.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Bit of that.
Speaker 20 (33:50):
We'll see how much frustration we'll get from Brian Roach.
Please skimmission of this morning as well. We're ready chambers
back in the MICA's next.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Have a great day, everybody, see you tomorrow on Early Editions.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live
to news Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or
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