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November 11, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Wednesday the 12th of November 2025, sexual violence survivor advocate, Louise Nicholas shares her thoughts on the IPCA report into the handling of the Jevon McSkimming case.

Gun lobbyist-turned-firearms minister Nicole McKee has lifted the lid on her Arms Act rewrite plans, Fish & Game Chief Executive Corina Jordan shares her thoughts. 

AA Road Safety Spokesperson Dylan Thomsen shares his thoughts on new roadside drug testing. 

Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey has the latest on outgoing BBC boss who resigned this week says the corporation must fight for their journalism and UK unemployment hits 5% as the jobs market weakens.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Morning Wednesday, absolute cluster with Police'll speak to Louise Nichols
about this before six. Well head to the UK unemployment
there is up to five percent. Of course, this includes
two former BBC bosses now out of a job. Gun changes.
What do they mean if you're traveling with a firearm
and drug testing? Will it be like the booze breathalyzers
and take but take way longer? Apparently it's quite a process.

(00:35):
So what's that going to do to traffic of a
Saturday evening? Six after five The agenda Wednesday, the twelfth
of November. Not good on the India Pakistan front this
morning twelve dead in it and Lumber's Bud and at bombing,
I should say in his lumber Bud.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
The Interior Minister of Pakistan has already visited this site
and spoken to local journalists. He has claimed that this
was a suicide bombing and said the the suicide bomber
was attempting to try to get inside the judicial complex.
What was unable to and instead targeted a police vehicle
outside of the complex and the New Dell.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
It was a briefcase bomb.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
We are waiting to know if there could be more
details about what kind of explosion happened, how it happened,
and who are behind it. For now, we've been told that.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
We need to wait for these answers because the investigation.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
Is underweight now.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Explaining is the losing in the UK. Tim David, this
is the outgoing boss of the BBC. He's doing both.

Speaker 7 (01:28):
I think we've got a fight for our journalism. I'm
really proud of our work and the amazing work locally
globally that we're doing is ugly precious. We have made
some mistakes that have cost us, but we need to
fight for that and I'm fiercely proud of that.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, finally back home. Labour doesn't want to bar of
the Maori parties. Now it's rogue agents.

Speaker 8 (01:50):
So they're not laboring people.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
They're not labor candidates.

Speaker 8 (01:53):
They're good people. We don't have anything goinst them that
they will not be candidates with labor.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
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Speaker 2 (02:11):
Eight minutes alfter five. Now I read the mix Skimming
Coster report last night. This is the IPCA report, and
I'll tell you the bits of it that I think
are most relevant, and we will talk about that shortly. First, though,
I want to talk about the economy, because that is
what's most important. After all, we had numbers out yesterday
which are interesting and kind of start to paint the

(02:32):
picture that A and Z was starting yesterday. So we
had the card spending out at the interesting part of
this no real change, but the interesting part is what
we're spending on, and it's durables up six and a
half percent. That is the largest overall annual growth rate
of all of the categories, which is good news because

(02:54):
when you start spending on that, then the economy is
starting to turn around a little bit. Also, we've had
from AINZ the Trachrometer truckameter monitoring shows light traffic index
rows point two percent in October, but is three point
two percent higher than a year ago. Annual growth increasing rapidly.
Now that same number last year was going backwards on

(03:16):
the year before. It so this is good news. Two
bits of two little bits of good news for the economy.
We're basically buying more fridges and sofas than the roads
are busier. Great. Nine minutes after five. Also inflation expectations,
we had those out yesterday, so we'll take a look
at those after well in a couple of minutes. Actually
just got nine minutes after five, Ran Bridge, and you're

(03:36):
on News Talk s'db. Now the changes that Luis are
sorry that Nicle m ckee announced yesterday on guns is
a bit The whole announcement was a bit random because
you've got the semi automatics, which is something that they
wanted to do. You've got the gun register that's something
that they wanted to get rid of, and they've done neither.

(03:57):
So I don't know for a gun lobbyist. You know
who's now the minister, she hasn't done very well. That
would be the only criticism. But then you know, people
like Fish and Game very happy with them, so we'll
talk to them this morning as well. News Talks had been.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
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Speaker 2 (04:24):
At b five twelve. The weirdest thing about all of
this really is why Andrew Costa was reappointed After all
of the fuss that Labor National made about labor and
about Costa during COVID, why did they then go and
put them into this new job at the Social Investment Agency.
It was all very weird and the timeline is getting

(04:45):
a bit murky for the current government. And I'm not
saying the last one was we're angels. But Costa was
appointed to this new job in September, and we know
from yesterday that Mark Mitchell learned of the stuff with
MC skimming and the affair and all of this stuff.
He learned that on November sixth last year. Now, Costa,

(05:09):
while he may have been appointed in September and everyone
keeps talking about that, his term didn't start until the
eleventh of November. So you've got a minister knowing about
all this stuff on the sixth of November, and then
you've got Costa starting his new job, which by the way,
is a five year term on the eleventh So why

(05:30):
did they go ahead with that? Why did they allow
that term to start? That's a question for them. It's
this morning thirteen and after five, Ryan Bridge, and you're
on news Talk ZB right. New roadside drug testing is
coming starts in Wellington next month, everywhere from April next year.
Saliva test. This is for cannabis, meth, MDMA, ecstasy, that
sort of stuff. Dylan Thompson is a road safety joining

(05:52):
us this morning. Dylan, good morning, Good morning Ryan. Hey,
this is going to make things safer.

Speaker 9 (05:59):
Absolutely, and we think this has been something that New
Zealanders needed for a lot of years. We have had
about one hundred road desks a year in recent times
where subsequent tests have found drugs in the driver's system
that were deemed to have likely played a role in
the crash. So we're finally about to sort of catch

(06:20):
up and start to have some decent enforcement tools to
try and stop this.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Okay, so that was going to be my next question.
So they likely played a role in the crash, So
thirty percent of crashes they had drugs in their system,
not just that they also likely cause the crash.

Speaker 9 (06:37):
Well I would change that slightly and say that they
played a role in the crash. So the crash investigations
are done and a blood test gets done in a
lab and it finds because not every driver involved in
a fatal crash has their bloods tested for drugs. So
it's a situation where the police officers investigating have thought,

(07:00):
we would like to do a blood test and then
they deem that we think that the drugs likely played
a role in causing the crash.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
And can they tell because I think what the some
of the concerns have been about this is about the
level of So is someone impaired by drugs or do
they just have them in their system? You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (07:21):
Yeah, and that is trickier than alcohol, without a doubt.
The tests that are being introduced in New Zealand, so
the saliva tests are designed to try and detect recent
use and so that is somebody is likely to have
used one of those four drugs that are going to

(07:42):
be tested for at the roadside within a couple of
hours of getting in the car. That's that's the way
they're designed to work and pick things up.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And what about the because I note that they said
it would take five minutes per car. Is this going
to be rolled out like breathalyzing tests? And Zach, you know,
is everyone going to be waiting in a line for
four hours if they do this or is it just
on a one on a one off basis that they
see a car and then they pull it over and
do that.

Speaker 9 (08:11):
The way it's going to work is what the law
now allows is police have the ability to test any
driver for drugs if they want to. But the way
it's going to go in reality is we're not going
to see drug testing done in the same volume, the
same scale as the alcohol tests, the way it's normally
done overseas as an alcohol test has done first, because

(08:34):
that's pretty quick and if that comes back negative, but
a police officer says this driver's behavior is making me
think that they may be under the influence of something,
then they can ask that person to pull over to
the side of the road somewhere and go to a
drug test, which the first one normally would be done
in sort of three to five minutes.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Dylan, appreciate your time this morning. Dan Thompson from AA
at seventeen after five, Bryant Bridge, the Senate's past this bill.
This is for the ending the shutdown over in the
US sixty forty and unlike the Senate, the Republicans control
the House, and they are the next to vote on it,
and they don't need any Democrats to pass it, which
you might think, well, that's great, it will sail through,

(09:16):
not necessarily because they are split themselves. This is the
Republicans on the tax credits for the health insurance and
the reason is quite simple. You've got twenty four million
Americans who rely on those tax credits. Without them, their
access to health insurance would be cut off. And you
have midterms next year. So are you handing if you

(09:38):
go ahead with axing the tax credits, are you just
handing the midterms to the Democrats? Eighteen after five News TALKSB.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
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Speaker 2 (09:58):
It's funny watching the TV in the UK at the moment.
Every morning I come in, there's a different head count
for how many prisoners have been accidentally released from prison
in the UK and are still at large. The count
currently at three, and they're taking questions in the House
on that at the moment. Actually we had not that
they were accidentally or mistakenly released, but someone escaped custody.

(10:21):
This is a Mount Eden prisoner and has been missing
for days. They had a hospital escort and apparently we're
handcuffed and they managed to escape like Houdini. The thing
that gets me about the story, and I was quite
aggravated about it yesterday, quite worked up, is that they
didn't tell us this happened like four days ago. Why
are we only finding out now? Do they just not?

(10:43):
And what sort of criminal are we talking about they?
Are they a murderer? Are they a mass murderer? Are
they a rapist? I don't know what? And what was
someone going to tell us? At what point was someone
going to tell us? This is four days ago now,
twenty one minutes after Fine bread Shun owners have been
THEEF scratched their heads. This after yesterday's gun announcement. Nicole
McKee won't reverse the semi automatic band, won't scrap the

(11:05):
controversial firearms registry. What she will do is automatically banned
gang members from getting firearms licenses. Sounds reasonable, make it
easier for owners to store their firearms, and create an
independent firearms safety body. Karina Jordan is fishing game CEO
with me this morning. Karena good morning, Good morning. What
did you make of the changes?

Speaker 10 (11:26):
Oh, we think there are pragmatic and sensible changes. I
know there's probably going to be a little bit of
appointment from some hunters out there. You mentioned the semi automatics,
but we're just encouraging everyone to have a good look
at the policy intent that's been set out, consider their submissions,
and then select a submit to the Select Committee. So
we think overall this is quite a balanced approach and
that releases some of those overlie bureacatic approaches that can

(11:49):
be taken to you know, legitimate firearms owners, while still
focusing on criminal the criminal element in our community.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And Karina, you're quite happy with the travel stuff. What's
with the travel and taking firearms with you?

Speaker 10 (12:04):
Just clarifying those travel requirements. Obviously safe storage of firearms
while we're traveling is really important, especially for our hunters.
So it's just clarifying the conditions there and making them
a little bit more streamlined so they're easy to understand.
So you can travel with firearms, you just need to
have your bault and your ammunition separate, and these conditions
around how long you leave those firearms in the vehicle, unattended.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
For Okay, what about this red flag system for mental
health issues.

Speaker 10 (12:31):
That's just what we know is that as parts of
our community challenged by mental health just you know, throughout
their lives, life have a little bit tough, and we
don't want that stigma associated with firearms ownership. And what
we know is it's really good for mental health and
physical well being to get out there in the natural
environment and hunt for your dinner. And this is a
large part of huge parts of our community. And so

(12:54):
this just means that there's more cautious. It's safer for
people than have challenges to own and retain the ownership
of their firearms and use them for legitimate hunting purposes,
which is good for their well being.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
All right, Karina, appreciate your time, Karena Jordan Fish and
Game CEO Times twenty three minutes after five, Ryan John says, Ryan,
I don't understand why the female complainant made anonymous email
complaints to police, as they never carry the same weight
as an official complaint. Yes, look, I can't speak for her.
I don't know why she did the things that made
the complaints in the way that she did. But the

(13:30):
point is once police got them, then they should have
done something about them. You don't just ignore that and say, well,
you know, we've had this guy around the office for
a long time. We kind of trust him, and his
version of events is the version of events. Let's arrest her.
I mean, what on what planet? On what planet? Hey?
Some good news I mentioned earlier we had the you know,

(13:53):
because we've got November twenty sixth, we got an OCR
decision from the Reserve Bank and basically we had the
survey of expectations of out yesterday and there's no real change,
which is good news, which means we should get another
cut before Christmas. Twenty four after five the early.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
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it be.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Twenty six after five News Talks, it'd be Costa is
a dead man walking. At this point, anyone not completely
brainwashed during COVID could see that there was just something
a bit off about him, and this IPCA report is
proof that basically they were right. He knew about this
so called a fear mix skimming heads the woman had
worked for police. He didn't ask the questions he should have.
He promotes MC skimming, didn't tell the people he should

(14:39):
have told about dodgy stuff, which makes it look well,
just all the more dodgy, doesn't it. In August I
asked Costa about mix skimming. A lot of your colleagues
have said that they were sort of shocked to find out.
Were you guys mates. I'm just not going to come
in at the moment. I'm sorry, do you does it
make you uncomfortable seeing him, you know, walk into court again?

(15:03):
I just won't comment. Ryan. Of course, it's a really
disturbing situation, but I'm not going to go into this
until it's spind results. So no answers then, and still
no answers now. We've asked to speak to him this morning.
He's on leave. Nikola Willis gets tangled up in this too.
Unfortunately for her, she recommended Costa for his current job.
He's still got five years on his contract. She says,

(15:25):
she's appalled, but she can't fire him. That's a job
for Brian Roache, and I don't think there's any doubt
that he's going to get the sack unless he resigns first.
Of course, the whole thing is an absolute cluster. In
a big government job like police commissioner, you got to
cross the t's and dot the eyes. It's a seven
hundred thousand dollars a year job, and Costa wasn't up

(15:45):
to the job. If he doesn't quit his current one,
it's only a matter of time now before it's taken
from him. The clock is ticking for Costa and for
the front line. Sadly, respect and integrity take a lifetime
to earn in a moment to lose. The are the
ones who'll cop the backlash. They are the ones who
have to actually talk to real people every day, and

(16:07):
as of six o'clock last night, sadly their jobs just
became a whole lot harder. Ryan Bridge, he talks there
be twenty eight minutes after five. We'll talk to Louise
Nichols about that just before six this morning. And also
the email situation. So apparently this is according to Mark Mitchell.
Apparently Costa says to the staff, because you have police

(16:30):
staff working in the minister's office, right and he says
to those people, this is Costa, don't send any of
the emails about mix skimming to the minister and keep
them away from his political staff. I mean, can a
person who operates like that be running any kind of
public office. No. Hey, house prices you know how they're

(16:51):
a bit crap here, Well, unless you're buying a house,
and then it's probably great your first house. In particular
Over in Australia, it's fascinating what's watching what's going on
there because their market basically has recovered all of the losses.
You know. So we had COVID the boom and then
everyone went down again. Australia's gone back up now reaching
again record highs. Imagine if that was happening in Auckland

(17:13):
right now, how different this city would be so accelerating
the fastest pace in two years. Their prices jumped one
point one percent for October alone, annual growth rate now
up over six percent Perth and Darwin up over five percent,
Brisbane not far behind. On four point nine, RBA is

(17:34):
cutting news talks atb.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
Twenty four away from six news talks. That'd be great
to have your company. This morning we get to our
reporters around the country. Shortly. We will also head to
the UK. We've got a bb update for you and
we'll have Louise Nichols on police in the situation from
last night before six this morning. Now over at COP.
You know how I love giving you a COP update.
COP thirty one is now in headlines, so currently they're

(18:18):
doing COP thirty. This is in Brazil the Climate Change Conference,
and one of the big disagreements at COPS nothing to
do with climate change. It's basically who gets to host
the next meeting. I'm not even kidding. This is what
they're talking about and arguing about and lobbying each other
for who gets to host the next one. Honestly, these
guys look so tone deaf. You know, cost a living crisis,

(18:41):
and you fly fifty thousand people to Brazil for a
greene Davos. Half the world's polluters aren't even there. How
do you justify this? It's basically become like a tourism event.
It should all be done by zoom the whole thing. Anyway,
it's Australia and Turkey apparently going coming to blows over
who gets to do the next one. Twenty three minutes

(19:04):
away from six reporters Column First and Need and Clum
Good morning morning, ryot New Zealand has a new King
of the Mountain Culumn.

Speaker 8 (19:12):
Yes, goodwin for Otago this one. Cadrona's been crown New
Zealand's best ski resort in the twenty twenty five World
Ski Awards. This is a Kadrona alpine resort near Wanaka.
It's the first time in nearly a decade that Canterbury's
Mount Hut hasn't taken out the title, but this time
going to Cadrona. The managers Laura Headley, She says they've
got a good rivalry in the New Zealand's ski industry,

(19:35):
but she says to take this one out after all.
The work they've put in is especially nice and the
icing on the cake. She says they're starting on the
next stage of developments at Cadrona, now installing more snowmaking
and road and car park improvements. Valthorins and France won
the overall World's Best Ski Resort.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
All right, how's our weather?

Speaker 8 (19:54):
Often cloudy, afternoon, fine spells, strong nor easters seventeen today.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
All right, Clears and christ Rich good morning, Good morning. Now,
the manhunt continues for this person who did the shooting
in wine Nornie.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (20:07):
So.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
A woman is now in a serious but stable condition
after being rushed to a hospital initially critically injured with
what appeared to be a gunshot wound on Monday night.
Police says she had been shot at a property on
Shortland Street. It happened just before nine o'clock that evening.
Our newsroom has since learned that it was a drive
by shooting, but the woman was not necessarily the intended

(20:29):
target and may have been hit mistakenly. Detective Inspector Craig
Farrant has confirmed that initial inquiries suggest that this was
gang related. He says they are following some very good
lines of inquiry at the moment searching for the offender
who has fled the scene in a vehicle.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
How's your weather.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Cloudy Simoorpatrie drizzle developing a bit later today, northeasterly strong
and a high of seventeen.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Thanks Claire Maxitt and Wellington's Morning Max Good morning morning.
What's going on with Potador Council?

Speaker 11 (20:58):
Yeah, a curious outcome from last month's local elections. Pottydu
up has not yet been able to swear in their
councilors have a meeting look at some of the pressing
issues there, like the water entity, district plan, et cetera.
That's because of the remarkably close result in the Maori
ward Kylie we Happy beating jested Huia by just eleven votes,

(21:19):
enough for the latter to demand a recount at nine
hundred and thirty six to nine hundred and twenty five.
Nothing can happen now until that result is settled. The
Potydoer District Court indeed granting the recount, saying there are
reasonable grounds to believe the results might be incorrect. That's
now going to take a couple of days. Anita Baker,
the re elected mayor, incredibly frustrated. She's been calling for

(21:39):
a law change already. To let them get on with
council matters to WHOIA says, it's about transparency and trust.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay, how's the weather in Wellington?

Speaker 11 (21:49):
Should be mostly fine today, but a cloud increasing southeasterlies
into the twenties.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
All right, neighbors in Auckland, this one, thank you, Max Nava,
good morning.

Speaker 12 (21:56):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Now IKE has announced of food mean you for its store.

Speaker 12 (22:01):
That's right, the Auckland store. Now kiwis will be able
to tuck into the classic Now I didn't know this,
but you'll producer Kenzie just told me that the Swedish
meatballs with mash peace and jam, that's going to be
on the menu. And I just said before that sounds
a bit too heavy. I don't want to have meatballs.
She said, oh, hello, they are world famous. Apparently the
Ikea meatballs.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Are just amazing peas and jam.

Speaker 12 (22:25):
Yeah, mash peace and jam. And they're also going to
have you know, yakiwi fish and chops and all that.
But apparently those meat people.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Jam, Kenzy, if you tried this, do you know about this?
Ah okay and Aussie and it's actually good?

Speaker 12 (22:39):
Yes, well here you go. But they're also going to
have you know, stuff like pevlova. They're going to have people.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Going to Ikea to buy furniture or to buy finish
ja and eat food.

Speaker 12 (22:49):
Well you know what New Zealanders are like, probably.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Two bucks, so weird.

Speaker 12 (22:53):
I know, we are a weird budge And apparently Ikea
saying that it conducted five hundred home visits across the country,
so this was able they were able to create this
wonderful menu about what they're going to have by doing that. Well,
every day New Zealanders.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
And they came up with peas and jam, Jam.

Speaker 12 (23:11):
What's the is these world famous flippin' We'll have to
go and have a look at these metros and see
what all the fuss is about. But yeah, Jam, it
sounds and she doesn't sound very nice one now I
feel like it's.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Sick, sounds weird. How's our weather?

Speaker 12 (23:22):
Rain, heavy falls, thunderstorms, Oh my god, it's all coming
strong wins, gale force wins up to one hundred k.
I'm not lying. A high twenty one.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Brilliant, never, thank you. Eighteen minutes away from six News Talks,
there'd be hey, lots of people texting. And Ryan Costa
was a deurns man. She personally picked him for the job.
This is from Andy, presumably not Andy Costa. Ryan. Question
is who put Costa in chart?

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
All of those things are true. But you read there's
plausible deniability that the politicians then didn't know you read
this report didn't know any of what was going at
least that's the strong impression it leaves they had no
idea what was going on, even though it was being
flagged and pushed up the food chain at police. That

(24:06):
the politicians were kept at arm's length until late last year,
so there's kind of plausible deniability for them. Eighteen minutes
away from six Louis Nickels on that before six, and
we're in the UK next quarter to six. On news talks,
there'd be Ryan Ikere meatballs are awesome for hangovers. Okay,
so if you hungover, go to k I could think
of nothing worse. Why would you go to Ikea with

(24:28):
a hangover? Terrible idea. Anyway, lots of people saying their
meatballs apparently are going to be fantastic when the store
finally opens. Good luck getting You might get cheap furniture
at Ikea, but good luck getting it shipped around the country.
So we're getting an update. This is from the Ports
of Auckland, an industry update. I've already told you about
how much you will have to pay if you're a
road freighting company. Port of Auckland fees one hundred and

(24:51):
thirty dollars per container at peak times. Peak times are
five am to six pm. That is going up to
one hundred and eighty dollars in twenty twenty six, and
by January twenty twenty seven that is going up to
three hundred and fifty dollars, so from one hundred and
thirty to three hundred and fifty dollars at peak time.
The problem is, and this is what Transporting New Zealand

(25:13):
is saying that the freight customers generally you only have
the capacity, the manpower everything to do stuff during business hours.
So the idea is that you will move freight off
the road to off peak times. That us saying, actually know,
all you do is keep the same freight on the
roads at on peak times and charge them more.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
International correspondence with ends an eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Kevin Gray, UK correspondent with US this morning. Gavin, the
BBC bosses that are all coming out and the woodwork
and basically saying we need to defend journalism.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Indeed, so yes, good morning to you. Ryan. The outgoing
BBC boss Tim dave has spoken to her staff today
and said that the British Broadcasting Corporation must fight for
our journalist after widespread criticism for the editing of a
documentary about Donald Trump. Now Davey used the word proud
almost a dozen times and he sounded well remarkably upbeat

(26:10):
and that is remarkably upbeat for the head of an
organization threatened with a one billion pound legal action that's
roughly two point three billion New Zealand dollars.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
Now.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
Donald Trump has issued three demands from the BBC. He
wants an apology, a retraction, and compensation and warns that
if he doesn't get it by Friday, he'll file that
legal action. The BBC boss has resigned and the spotlight
now really falls on how the BBC is funded. Its
current charter runs out at the end of twenty twenty seven,

(26:41):
and there's a debate over its future funding, with sixty
five percent of the eleven billion New Zealand dollar budget
coming from the annual license fee each year.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Now, unemployment's up hit five percent in.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
The UK, yes, and that is higher than many experts
had predicted. It's the bias rate since twenty twenty one,
and now the Bank of England has come out and
said actually, it predicts is going to be at five
percent for the next few years. One point seven million
people are claiming unemployment benefit. The average wage growth has

(27:14):
reached four point six percent. That's down a little from
the previous period public sector though six point six percent
private sector four point two percent, and many people are
saying we need to rein back in on those public
sector settlements. And incidentally, these figures also suggest the jobs
market here is weakening.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Thanks so much for that, Kevin grad UK europe correspondent,
Time as twelve away from six Bryan Bridge. This IPC
air report on MC skimming and the top dogs at
police instead of investigating a complaint from a young woman
whom Skimming hid in affear with senior officers, instead believed
MC skimming's version of events, arrested the woman, charged it
with harassment. Costin knew about the whole thing. He's on

(27:54):
leave from his new big government job. Judith Collins was
asked of this is all corruption?

Speaker 9 (27:58):
Well, I think if it walks a duck and it
quacks like a duck, it's not looking.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Good, is it.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Here's Chambers.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
But this report speaks for itself.

Speaker 13 (28:07):
I have no doubt that people will interpret the report
in their own way.

Speaker 12 (28:11):
It's left more than just police people down. It's let
New Zuerlanders down because this is this is disgraceful behavior.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Louise Nicholas is with our sexual violence survivor and advocates.
Good morning, Good morning, Ryan What did you think reading that?

Speaker 13 (28:25):
Oh yeah, pretty pretty disgusted and saddened by the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
To be fair, are you surprised?

Speaker 13 (28:34):
I'd like to say yes, but as we know, you know,
you get dumb and dumber in all any organization, and
it wasn't a matter of if this would happen again.
It was a matter of.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
When that's saying, I'm going to inspect a general in
there to kind of fix things up. Do you think
that's a good move?

Speaker 13 (28:54):
Well, yeah, I think so. To be fair, it just
if you've got somebody stern or in there with a
better insight and having that overlook of the whole organization,
keeping everybody on their toes. Yeah, I think it's not
a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You were an advisor to police for a week while there,
weren't you? Are you still doing that job?

Speaker 13 (29:19):
Well? I what I do with police is trainings with
the adult sexual assault teams twice a year, and I
work close with police supporting survivors going through the criminal
justice system.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's those frontline staff. Mandy's just text to show Ryan
who I feel sorry for. And this whole thing is
your average hard working police officers. I mean, they'll be
absolutely raging about this.

Speaker 13 (29:45):
Oh, without a doubt it's and what Mixed Skimming and
the others have done does not define our New Zealand police.
It does not at all. They're hard working. They do
a damn good job on the front line. Actually with
our survivors of sexual violence and family violence.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
You have much to do with Costa not really, No,
what do you think of his partner all this?

Speaker 7 (30:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (30:11):
See that that's where I get angry that you know,
the top cop allowed this to happen, and that to
me was sure, Yeah, no words for him to be fair.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
And he's got a he's sitting right now as we
speak on a five year contract with a new government job.

Speaker 13 (30:32):
Yeah, but he's got a lot to answer for around
this and he needs to front it.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Rooys, appreciate your time this morning. Thank you for being
with me Luise Nichols on the police and the IPCA report.
It is nine to six News Talks Big.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
On your radio and online on iheard Radio early edition
with Ryan Bridge and are the Supercenter explore these accessories
and servicing more than one news.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Talks biks the six on News Talk it'd be yes.
So there's no doubt that Costa comes out of this
looking well terrible, and he's probably going to lose his job.
Mike's in here with you next, Good morning, Mike morning. Yeah,
probably probably about time. Why did they hire him for
the new job? Anyway?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Okay, So so Chambers and Mitchell will be on this morning.
So I think that you will find that they didn't know,
because the inference that you're making there is that why
would you hire somebody who's dodgy? They didn't know he
was dodgy, because obviously if they knew he was dodgy
and went ahead with the appointment, then they had donkey
deep in it as.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Well, and they're not.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
So they didn't know when he was appointed, and so
it's only retrospectively that everyone suddenly stumbled upon this.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
But the problem for them is that because they keep
saying on where he was appointed in September. So I
heard you they start date. I heard that.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
I think you will find by the time we get
to Mitchell this morning, he'll be able to explain that
fairly clearly, Okay, because if what you're saying is correct,
then somebody somewhere is looking at a bloke that they
know is under question. Yes, And then carried on with
the job, which there or didn't tell enough people. We
didn't tell it didn't it didn't tell enough. And there's
the email question around, and Mitchell's office got a whole

(32:14):
bunch of emails and cost to then sort of ring
fence that and said don't show the minister and stuff
like that. But the whole thing, I mean, there's several
things about it, but the most important thing I think
personally is that do we wake up this morning believing
all of a sudden that the cops are crooked? And
I don't think we do. I mean, the guy who's
pulling you over this weekend, you're not going to use
a bit you wonder if he's one of the group.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
No, but there'll be a certain group within society who
were already on the fence, and for them, of course,
that's will tip them over the years. And that just
makes that that job of the front line officer doesn't.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Help one hundred per cent. And I think I think
they said that yesterday. The other thing is I think
it's rigging fence to five or six people. And if
you followed the story, not that it's been a story
until yesterday, but if you followed the news closely, you'll
have seen a couple of retirements in the last retired
in the last couple of months, and you can now
join those dots together.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
And that's where that is.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
The other question I'm interested in with those individuals is
whether that's in competence or whether you're entering a criminal sphere.
So in covering something up or not doing something, are
you acting criminally or.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
You just depends on your intention? Right, a low renter,
And when you read there were a lot of low
renters around by the sounds of it. But when you
read this report, it's time and time again. Costa says,
I said this in the interview, I said this, and
the thing I declared this, and then the woman who's
the independent woman comes and says, I know that never happened.
It's never happened.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Interesting thing, But I'm led to believe that Costa still
doesn't believe he's done anything wrong, which is the other
side of the equation. Did you believe mcskimming because you
know him and he couldn't possibly lie, and therefore you're
naive and an idiot, But you didn't nefuriously that's the
other question.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
So what do you guys, I say Chambers and Mitchell
this morning. Lots of questions this morning. Mike is with
the next Have a great day, See you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
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