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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge on
early edition with one roof love where you live, news talks.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It'd be good morning and a six half to five.
Great to have your company. As always, new subjects for
the kids in school. We'll look at that before six
this morning. We're live to the US. They've got photos
of a young guy they reckon killed Charlie Kirk, Elliott
Smith on the ABS this weekend, and we're in the
UK where the ghost of Jeffrey Epstein claims another scalp.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It is Friday the twelfth and September first. To the US,
the FBI has been holding a presser on Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We were able to track the movements of the shooter.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
We have tracked his movements onto the campus, through the stairwells,
up to the roof, across the roof to a shooting location.
After the shooting, we were able to track his movements
as he moved to the other side of the building,
jumped off of the building, and fled.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
They've got a palm print, they've got a forearm print,
they've got a shoe print. Apparently so tracking the net
is closing in on him. Trump posthumous. I mean they
are mates, awarding him the Presidential Middle of Freedom.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
This is a dark moment for America.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Charlie Kirk traveled.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
The nation joyfully engaging with everyone interested in good faith debate.
His mission was to bring young people into the political process,
which he did better than anybody ever.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Now you might have missed this because of everything else
that's been going on in the world, But commemorations underway
across the US for the twenty fourth anniversary of nine
to eleven. Pete Higgsyth's been speaking at Arlington.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
On this day twenty four years ago. We suffered. In
the years since we have endured. Our service and sacrifice
have forged our character, and today we stand in hope
for the future of our great nation.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Epstein strikes again and the UK starm has had to
sack Peter Mandelssohn as the ambassadors to the US. The
emails showing he called Jeffrey his best pale.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
The emails show is to speak that the depth and
extent of Lord Mallison's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is materially
different from that known at the time of his appointments.
In particular, mister speaker Lord Bullison's suggestion that Jeffrey Apstein's
first conviction was wrongful and should be challenged is new information.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, said he should never have been charged. We'll get
to Vincent mcavinie on that before quarter two this morning.
And Ari and Charles have had the first tea sit
down since February last year together lasted fifteen minutes. No
comment from either parties on what they actually talked about.
Whether it was all comee by our and you know
the family back together again for Christmas, No idea, but
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at least they're talking nine up to five.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Views and views you trust. To start your day, It's
early edition with Brian Bridge and one roof Love, where
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Speaker 2 (02:52):
The'd be nine two nine two the numbers to text
love hearing from you old mate. Stuart Nash went a
bit far with the with the rebrand, don't you Reckon
made a bit of a tit of himself personally. I
don't actually have a problem with the word all the
tea word. You know, that's just a preference thing. But
and also watching the news last night, I laughed, you know,
it's funny. I just find a little bit funny. Maybe
(03:14):
I'm immature. I probably am a little bit immature, but
I reckon half of Kiwi households watching that would have
also been giggling when they had to say those words. However,
the problem for Nash is that Winston's old school. He
finds this stuff crass. He's got a vocabulary the length
of my arm, and he prefers to use that over
cuss words. Did you catch when you know when Van
(03:35):
Velden in the house used the sea word? His genuine
visceral disgust at using words like that, No thank you
from Winston Peters. But there's a good reason why Nash
is doing this. He's doing this because labor and hipkins, well,
the left, let's just say, the left so wrapped up
(03:55):
in university gobbledygoog woke speak that you actually can't understand
what they're saying. Sometimes, have you actually tried to listen.
It happens with Chloe Swarbroog. I've told her this, I've said,
I don't understand what you're saying. Why can't people just
talk normal anymore? You know? Why can't you just say
society is getting fat because reading too much junk fruit?
(04:15):
Why can't you say that Is that really that offensive?
Why can't you say a woman as a female doesn't
mean you don't support trans people from being who they
want to be. I certainly do you know? Why can't
you say pregnant woman, not pregnant person. Allowing somebody else
to be who they want to be doesn't mean that
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you have to stop being who you are, you know
what I mean? Anyway, back to Nash, like any public
figure who wants longevity, you've got to master the art
of transformation, don't you. And that's what he's trying to
do here. Madonna did it over the years. Look at
early two thousands share versus back in the eighties. All right,
Winston has done it. The ultimate chameleon, switching camps, changes
(04:57):
his mind on stuff, same values, but different age means
a different slogan. So Nash may have strayed a little
bit too far south in these comments in the last
few days and lost his job in the process, But
New Zealand First supporters actually won't care when he is
eventually anointed by Winston Peters. The congregation will follow Brian
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Bridge News Talk's edb nineteen nineteen. The number sex It's
gone eleven minutes after five. Some of the NCAA subjects
are fascinating, well, actually it's quite good. Sciences. You'll get
primary industries if you're in year thirteen. Some of the
ones that you might question sociology in social sciences, civics,
politics and philosophy. How do we feel about that? We'll
(05:41):
talk to principle just before six on all of this.
Next up, though, we are live to the US for
the latest on Charlie Kirk. It is twelve after five,
News Talk SEDB.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Views and Views you trust to start your day. It's
earlier this ship with Brian Bridge and one Route Love
where you live, News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So's I've fourteen and some good news for your Friday morning.
Something to celebrate this after Jetstar announced an extra six
hundred thousand flights across the country and the Tasman in
the last week. You know in New Zealand sort of
limping along, but other airlines are coming in to fill
the void, and international services planned for this northern winter
season are going to exceed the twenty twenty nine, sorry
(06:23):
twenty nineteen number by three and a half percent, so
we will have three and a half percent more international
flights in and out of New Zealand than we did
pre COVID and big focus on when do we get
our tourism numbers back to pre COVID. Well, this will
help with that people coming here for summer. It's great news.
In the South Island you're leading the charge. Christ Church
Airport northern winter you're up fourteen point seven percent on
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last year. Queenstown Airport, jeez, you've been smashing at Queenstown Airport.
International services for northern winter twenty five are going to
be thirty seven point two percent of Northern winter twenty nineteen.
It's massive. Auckland Airport you're going to be up six
point four percent. Ram Bridge just go to the US
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now where a Manhart's still underway for the keller of
the conservative activist Charlie Kirk. David Smith is the Washington
bureau chief of the Guardian with US Live this morning. David,
Good morning, David. We understand there's been an FBI press
conference held in the last wee while. What are they saying.
(07:28):
I think we're having some troubles getting to David. We'll
get them back on the line as soon as we can.
So good news about tourism. We'll come back to David
in a second, good news about tourism, and according to builders,
they reckon good news about the construction sector. Two contrary
to what you have been told, apparently by the media.
In fact, this is the Master Builders twenty twenty five
State of the Sector report. They sort of finger the
(07:50):
media and say, despite the media narrative over the past
two years, their survey one thousand builders and homeowners, they reckon, actually,
people are pretty had and work is picking up. So
seventy two percent of homeowners reporting no significant delays with
their builds. When there are delays, guess who's responsible. It's consents,
it's councils. There's a bit of whether there's a bit
(08:13):
of product availability, remember the whole jib thing. Anyway, the
upside of all of this is that sixty three percent
of builders think the economy is going to get better
in the next year. That's good. Sixty four percent are
reporting strong or steady order books. That's up from fifty
one percent last year, so that's pretty significant. And Master
(08:34):
Bilder is talking up a new phase or momentum coming
for the construction sector, and boy don't they need that.
Seventeen minutes after five, we'll get back to David Smith
in the US on Charlie Kirk. David's the FBI has
just held a press conference. What's the latest on this
man hunt?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Yeah, well, the FBI released images of this suspect. They
say they've recovered a weapon, but otherwise the manhunt continues.
There have been various rumors flying around about, you know,
what's something engraved on its bullet that is certainly not
confirmed so far, and we still don't know much about
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who this is, what the motive might be, but certainly,
you know, as you can imagine, a tragedy that is
dominating many headlines and much attention in America right now.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
David, what do they think was inscribed on the bullet?
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Well, there were some media reports suggesting that there were
statements there about fascism and about transgender ideology and so on.
I think some members of Congress on the Republican side
have been quick to seize on that, but just to underline,
that has not been officially confirmed. So yeah, it's very
(09:52):
hard at this moment to discern the veracity of that,
and I think worth recalling the in other major incidents
such as this, like the attempts of assassination of Donald Trump.
You get a social media pylon of people rushing to
ascribe the motives. Once I try to blame the other,
and then later we often discover maybe that was wrong
(10:15):
or false, or maybe the motives who are quite complex,
or I think in the case of the first Trump
assassination attempt, we you know last year, we still don't
really know what the motive was.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
David, appreciate that update. Thanks so much for being with me.
David Smith, Washington bureau chief for The Guardian. The nets
closing in, they've got a footwear impression, they've got a
photo of the guy they think did it or a
strong person of interest, and a forearm print as well.
It is nineteen after five News Talks. He'd be Elliott
Smith on the AB's next, The News.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You Need this morning and the in depth Analysis Early
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Live News Talks.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
They'd be twenty one after five, Big week in the
sport here, we've got the AB's in the box at
the Caketon, we've got the warriors in orc will start
with the Abs. Elliot Smith, the News Talks, a big
voice of rugby with us this morning. Elliot, good morning Morning, Ryan,
your predictions this weekend?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Look, I think both teams have made a few changes,
but I think the All Blacks are given the consistency
have put forward in there, their Type five should be
good enough to win and that would return them the
Freedom Cup which they lost to South Africa last year
and a big step forward to winning the Rugby Championship.
Haven't the best of records in Wellington in recent times
(11:31):
against South Africa or at all, but I think the
All Blacks should be good enough to win this weekend
by a few points similar to last weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I reckon and is it a big call putting a
deep bit onto a match of this caliber?
Speaker 9 (11:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:45):
Well, I think usually the All Blacks are given them
a sort of softly softly approach, bring them off the
bench and get them used to test rugby. But Leroy
Carter is a player that's been built for the big stage.
He's played numerous World Sevens of in front of fans
around the globe. He played the Paris Olympics last year,
which didn't go overly well for the New Zealand seven side,
(12:06):
but that was in front of seventy five thousand Parisians.
So he's used to the big stage. He had a
great Super Rugby season. So the All Blacks have backdmen
to perform this weekend. So yeah, it's a bit of
a surprise to an extent, but he's, as I said,
used to playing on those big stages.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Previously looking forward to Elliot Elliott Smith News Talks HEB
Voice of Rugby with us and it is twenty two
minutes after five. Ryan Joden Nick Bewley News Talks HEB
Sports Journalists style on the Wars and the Panthers at
Mount Smart this weekend, their first playoff of the season,
home advantage. But Nick, they're kind of being written off
by most, aren't they.
Speaker 9 (12:44):
Good morning to you, Ryan. I mean that's a position
the Warrior is very comfortable and over the last thirty
years being written off by everyone. But luckier it is
fair to say going up against the team with the
caliber of Penrist, the four time defending premiers, they know
what it takes the point of the season, they're understandably favorites.
But the Warriors that they've got history in this position,
(13:07):
I know, probably have to go back a wee way,
but think about two thousand and eight as an example,
they were eighth going to the finals. They beat Melbourne
who are the top of the logs, so it is possible,
but it feels like the Warriors are going to have
to do something rather remarkable to get through to the
next round of the finals. But looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Nonetheless, Sam Herey has shown the flashes of promise. Will
he be invaluable to that?
Speaker 9 (13:31):
Well, he has to play first Ryan, he's on the
extended reserves. As things down. He was sensational last week.
I thought I must have been. I was a little
bit surprised that he wasn't. And Andrew Webster's initial seventeen
named on Tuesday. However, there is a change. They can
make changes right up into an hour before kickoff. But
it really does feel like to me they will need
some form of X factor player, whether that is Sam
(13:54):
Hereley coming in late, Alekajalasima is now starting. So it
will take something a little bit beyond what the Warriors
is delivered over the last couple of weeks and defeats
to beat such a strong interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Get a high impact player and off the bench late
in the piece, and they appreciate that. Nick view Lee
News talks he'd be sports journalist with US this morning
twenty four minutes after five, and I have to say, McKenzie,
we've had a text coming from Christine. Okay, Christine's angry
this morning.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You have no idea how irritating it is to have
that sting saying your name played all the goddamn time.
We know it's you. We listen because it's you, Ryan Bridge.
We don't need it rammed down our ears constantly. No
one else does it. Why do you do it? Peg
it back? Please, Christine? Do we do it Mackenzie more
than other people? No, Christine, that's not true. Apparently we
(14:44):
do it the same as everyone else. Why are you
picking on McKenzie. It's not me, it's mackenzie anyway. Apparently
it's to separate the interviews. But look, we can try
and peg it back Christine, because I don't want to
upset you at five point twenty five on a Friday morning,
as you're heading into your weekend. Anyway, I have some
thoughts on jeesus, it's been a big news week. Thoughts
(15:05):
on that for you. Next, and we're talking education, those
new curriculum subjects just before six News Talk sabb.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
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Five point twenty seven on News Talk SAIBB. This week,
NASA found the clearest sign yet of ancient life on Mars.
I know, did you see that? We learned it for
the first time in human history. There are more obese
children on Earth than underweight children. How sad in the
Middle East, missiles, bomb piece talks over the skies of Europe.
(15:39):
We got drones, we got fighter jets, and the US,
supposedly the first among free nations, another political assassination. And
it's times like this you stop and think what a
strange species we are. If those Martian aliens ever turned
up here, God help us, what would they think of us?
How would we explain ourselves and our behavior. Religion is
(16:03):
about loving thy neighbor, but we fight in the name
of it. Food is scarce, but some have too much
and others have too little. Democracy means freedom until you're
shot in the head for speaking your mind. Of course,
none of this is unusual. We have done this, this
weird species. We have done this since the beginning of time.
We fight, we killed, we war, and we rint some repeat.
(16:24):
Animals fight for territory, for food, and for survival. We
do that too, but we also fight just because we
can't agree with each other, you know. I think what
it all boils down to is the fact that we
are social beings. It can work for us, but it
can also work against us. Arguably, social media is making
all of this worse. So what are we to conclude
(16:45):
from all of this? How are we to explain ourselves
to an alien? What if they landed tomorrow in some
big spacecraft and said, take me to your leader? Who
would you take them to? Donald Trump? You know? Do
you tell them to Antonio Guterres, the Pope, the King.
I honestly don't know the answer to any of these questions.
I thought about it last night. Maybe we'd be better
off asking a question. Hey, you've got any room up
(17:07):
there for me, Ryan Bridge, and there's a sting for you.
Christine Taylor says, Ryan, play it one more time just
to piss her off. It's entertaining, Sorry, Christine. Right twenty
nine after five, we are live to the UK for
the latest on Lord Mandelston and we'll talk education for
full six news talk. Sibb said, I.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
Was your favorite.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with
Ryan Bridge and one roof love.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Where you live? News Talk set B. Good morning, it
is twenty four minutes away from six. You're on news
Talk set B coming up for full six. The new
subjects the kids are going to be taught at secondary school,
and we'll head to a europe correspondent on NATO's response
to those Russian jones drones. I should say out of
(18:04):
the US, we've had an inflation number overnight two point
nine percent for August, higher than July. You'll remember back
in July it was two point seven percent, So it
is notching edging up. That's after slowing down over summer. Food, housing,
cars closed, they're all firming up. This is in line,
by the way, this number with forecasters inflation, inflation expectations, tariffs,
(18:27):
they go up, businesses push prices up, and then consumers
pay more. And this is what happens core inflation. That's
once you strip out your food and strip out energy.
That's at three point one percent. So what does all
of this mean, Well, basically no change to the expectations
we've been talking about for the past week or so
to the three rate cuts that they're expecting from the
FED before Christmas. Wall streets loving that this morning. It's
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all on. Prices up slightly, but they're not, you know,
dramatically going nuts. Jobs data has been noisy over the
last few weeks, so rate cuts and America's would be
relatively sweet. Bryan Bridge, twenty three away from Sex. Let's
go to our reporters around the country, Cluen Proctor and
Dnedan Coulm Good morning.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Now, there's some unexpected Environments Southland charges that the farmers
are feeling blindsided by them.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
Yeah, there's been concerns that the Council's environmental compliance checks
have been costing farmers up to four thousand dollars even
when no problems were found with these checks. Farmers say
they feel targeted for revenue gathering and that they're already
bad relationship with Environments South and will only get worse
(19:37):
if this charging continues. Environments South and Ryan denies the
unnecessary invoices. They say they're undertake cost recovery, so ratepayers
don't fit the bill.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
All right, how's your weather?
Speaker 10 (19:48):
Got rain developing here this morning, but it should clear
this afternoon. Slash evening to find westerlies and twelve the
high today.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
All right, Chez Clears and christ Church's clear good morning,
Good morning. Are you got the reopening of christ Church Cathedral?
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Yes, this is the new staged rebuild plan which would
see the cathedral Square landmark reopen to the public by
twenty thirty. This rebuild, of course, was paused indefinitely last
year and at the time they said there was an
eighty five million dollar shortfall. This new platin that's been
announced will have that gap to forty million dollars. The
Anglican Church is pledging twenty million. Work will start next year,
(20:26):
firstly on the nave, the rose window and then the
entrance way as well as the bell tower reinstatement. Group
chair Mark Stewart says they do remain hopeful that the
city Council and government will cover the rest of the gap,
while Dean Ben Truman says the cathedral attractive seven hundred
and fifty thousand people a year pre quake, he thinks
will see the same level of interest once this third
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stage is complete.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Right, how's your weather.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
Frosty to start then?
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Fine?
Speaker 11 (20:53):
We could see some brief showers this afternoon and a
high of fourteen.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Nice one. Thanks Claire Max and Wellington Hamax good morning.
Things a bit smelly in lower heart.
Speaker 12 (21:04):
Yeah, you know, I used to think the infamous Seaview
smell was something of a myth, and then I got
to know a friend who lives in Seaview and ask
them is it really that bad? And apparently it is,
or it can be when the wind is blowing a
certain direction, bad eggs, etc. Anyway, we were worn yesterday
that the Seaview wastewater treatment plant needs to undergo yet
(21:24):
more repairs. There's a sludge that's normally put for a dryer.
The dryer needs fixing, so the sludge is wet, not good.
There are other parts of the Hut Valley that can
detect this stuff as well. Apparently twenty years it's been
going on. There's a Facebook page with a strong following
bemoaning the Seaview smell. It's going to be particularly bad
until at least the end of next week.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
You sometimes get there out at more point by the
airport and you get a bit of a smell.
Speaker 12 (21:49):
Have you ever experienced That's right, I've heard of that
one as well. Yes, I can't verify it, but I've
heard of it all right, how's you with her cloudy periods?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Scattered rain twelve the high Happily win for the huts
Neva's and Auckland. Hey nev, Happy Friday, Happy Friday, we
made it. Yes, Auckland drivers should plan for big disruptions tomorrow.
Speaker 13 (22:09):
Yes, So what's happening. We've got Pro Palestine supporters, so
they're expected to march across the Harbor Bridge tomorrow. Apparently
they're going to be meeting at Onnyportal Domain and North Cote.
They'll be marching south over the bridge to Victoria Park.
This is happening round about nine thirty am, So obviously
MZTA is expecting heavy congestion delays expected on both sides
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of the bridge, you know, as well as all the
other local roads and that. So if you're going to
be doing anything, you need to be getting up at
three am like us.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
It's annoying. It is annoying. I know, look at what's
happening overseas etc. It's important and you know we all
know that. But is watching them go over the bridge
going to make you go out and do No, it's stupid.
I want to go swimming tomorrow, do you Yeah, I've
got a date with my friends to go swimming at
the beach on the North Shore. I'm now going to
have to cancel.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
Well, look now, why don't you go over there tonight,
stay the night, then get up early and you know what,
I don't care because I will be in Wellington tonight.
Speaker 11 (23:09):
You go here for the weekend.
Speaker 13 (23:10):
And no, I'm not going for the rugby. I'm just
going for a family event at twenty first.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Go have a whiff of lower hearts. You're always going
there for twenty first.
Speaker 13 (23:17):
Have I know I've got about like ten nephews.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Ok, how's the weather for this protest?
Speaker 13 (23:23):
Okay, rain, heavy falls, boo hoo yay, terrible our thunderstorms and.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's all going down everybody, but it's warm. Eighteen pasa,
thank you, enjoy the twenty first. Happy twenty first to
your nephew.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Eighteen Away from Sex News Talk ZIBB, we're live to
the UK next, NATO making some moves over those Russian drones.
Also before Sex will get to the education announcement from
Eric at Stanford the new subjects that your kids are
going to be taught at school.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
News Talk SIDB International correspondence with insign Eye Insurance Peace
of Mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Call it just sex. The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein continues
to claim Skelts. This time it is Starmer firing the
ambassadors to the US from the UK versus the labour
right Lord Manderson, Vincent mcavinnie as a UK europe correspondent, Vincent,
what do they know about Mandelssohn now that they didn't
know before? What's changed?
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Well?
Speaker 14 (24:25):
Lord Manderson is a veteran of labor politics in the
UK for decades. He was appointed by Keir Starmer as
the fasttor to the United States because he is such
an amazing networker. But that part of that networking in
his past has been a very close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
Now he had previously played this depth, but in the
release from Congress birthday book for Epstein, we saw that
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drawing from Donald Trump, we also saw pages and pages
of photographs and pleasant descriptions of the times that Mandelsson
had shared with Epstein. And so his position became untenable
because he said, but everyone loves you, You're one of
my closest friends, and that they'd enjoyed many holidays together
with accompanying photographs.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And how did they not know? Because they knew that
there was a relationship that Starmer and number ten, right,
but did they inquire further before they appointed him? You
know how close were they? Did they do any investigation?
Are those legitimate questions?
Speaker 14 (25:21):
I think those will be legitimate questions now because this
relationship was known, but Mandleson had played it down. But
this is you know, I've lost counted a number of
times that Peter Mandelson has been sacked. He was sacked
I think twice under Tony Blair for infractions of different rules.
He was a bit of a wheeler dealer. So this
is just a letter, sorry chapter with him. But he
was someone who had managed to strike up a close
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relationship with Donald Trump, was spotted in the Oval office
with him and the scene as a master networker. So
it doesn't mean that we're slightly weakened.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Now in Washington, we've got a UN meeting happening. I mean,
what do you do? This is over Poland and the
Russian drones. But what's NATO doing with its defense as
anything major?
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Well, NATO is interpreting what happened earlier this week when
those Russian drones incurred on Polish airspace as being a
test for them I think they think that it's Russia
just sort of testing the fences, seeing whether or not
NATO is ready to respond. There was a response from
the Polish Air Force. We understand that it's seen as
not being quite strong enough for Vladimir Putin. So they're
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moving troops, they're moving artillery, they're bolstering the Polish defenses
in a way that many have been calling for for
some time. Because this isn't the first time this has happened.
They have strayed in once or twice before, but it's
the first time this has been seen as a direct approach.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Vincent, Thank you. Vincent Mecaviny, a UK europe correspondent, just
gone thirteen away from six right and Bridge Rich Right
Erica Stanford has released the subjects list. This is the
new subjects which will be included in the replacement of NCEEA.
I've got some new ones here for you. Primary Industries
will be a science subject you can take in year thirteen.
Electronics and Micatronics is one you can take in year twelve.
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That's under technology. Also automotive engineering, building and construction, infrastructure engineering,
mechanical engineering. You can take music technology. Sociology is new Civics, politics, philosophy,
Pacific studies or new subjects. Clear Amos is the Albany
Senior High School principle with me this morning. Clear, Good morning, Morena.
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Good list.
Speaker 15 (27:24):
It's an interesting list. I have mixed feelings about the list.
The subject titles sound great, but there's a whole lot
of information about what sits behind them that I have
questions around which.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I guess is I mean, would you expect to have
all the detail when they're just releasing the list.
Speaker 15 (27:40):
Well, I'm interested that we've even got a list which
has had zero consultation, So this has come as a
bit of a bolt out of the blue. I recognize
it's an extension of the proposal to replace INCA and
to provide some suggestions. You know that's still supposedly up
for consultation and hasn't shouldn't be a face to complete
at this stage. So I think it's interesting that we've
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been given a whole new senior subjects list without any
consultation at this stage, and we've got a whole lot
of new subjects, and we've got these vet subjects, which
I think are a really interesting thing to explore further
because they may actually present some issues for our sector.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
What vet subjects are you talking about?
Speaker 15 (28:21):
So vocational education and training subjects. There's a whole lot
of new ones, some of them that you mentioned primary
industries and etc. Outdoor education is now a vocational subject.
What we know about vocational subjects is they're not going
to be funded for schools to necessarily resource and teach.
What they will do is they'll have an industry skills
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board who will be developing the resources and potentially even
delivering the teaching and learning. And I've got a real
concern that this is a bit of a creeper way
towards privatization of parts of our education sector, but also
that it takes it out of the context of school.
Some of the most powerful vocational teaching and learning at
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the moment happens in the context of our schools where
they're designing it to meet the needs of their very
distinct community such as rural communities.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Clear, do you accept that NCAA has been failing students
and has been failing parents? And if you accept that,
then why does schools who are the ones that have
had the flexibility to run the system now need to
say on all in Sundry with the replacement.
Speaker 15 (29:26):
I actually don't accept that NCAA is a failure. I think,
like every system, it has some points of weakness that
we need to address. But I actually believe we would
be far better off to improve the system that we have.
I keep thinking about the incredible amount of resourcing, the
amount of dollars it's going to create to not only
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rewrite the curriculum for every single subject in that list,
because if we get the proposed changes to this new
Zealand Certificate of Education, that's going to require brand new
curriculum for everything subject, brand new assessment frameworks for every
single subject. That's huge resourcing. I think we need to
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actually pause for a moment, step back and look at
what the real issue is. If we want to raise
literacy and numeracy and make sure that we're actually raising
the outcomes of all of our learners.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Where how can you so you accept that we need
to do all those things, which is clearly means it
hasn't been done, you know, No, it needs means.
Speaker 15 (30:26):
We need to make improvements. One of our most esteemed professors,
Vivian Robinson, says we need to reduce change to increase improvement,
and I worry that if you're not an educator, simply
rewriting the whole system looks like a very neat and
tidy solution, when we would be far better off investing
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in what we have and improving it and advancing I'm
not clearly doesn't need to be improvements made, but let's.
Speaker 14 (30:53):
Work with what we've got.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I have delivered the clear amos at Albany Senior High
School principle. If you're a parent listening to that, I'm
sure you're thinking this is part of the problem. Eight
to six News Talk said, be.
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Talks be six to six. You're on Newstalk's HEDB. The
text machines going nuts on NCAA. My Friday has been
brightened because Mike's walked into the studio Morning Mike A
lovely teal. It's a very tell. When I had it,
just a good question.
Speaker 16 (31:28):
When I had this made, the bloke who made it
or got it made for me said, this is the
greatest thing you said that had done.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So it's like for those who obviously can't see it,
it's like handset colors. I do very much.
Speaker 16 (31:41):
Remember it's not far off. If you want to go
back even further, it's probably goes back to the New
Zealand days of earlier. They had a teal and so
it's it's very fetching. It is fitch and not many
people can wear it, and I think I get away
with it, and I think I've teamed it with the
beautiful gray.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Which is a personally I wouldn't do that. Shit. You
do that, you do you do a casual don't don't
even get me stand a business jacket because my no,
it's not. This is not a business.
Speaker 16 (32:07):
That's just a casual blazer. But my wife, My wife
says to me, So you're on my wife's team, she
says to me. I walk through the door, she goes,
why are you wearing the old man's network yet? Again,
that's what she says. Because I went out and I
got I decided you're right. I was going t shirts
and then I thought I'll do this and I discovered
one of these.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You're either going to the tennis or to a business meeting. Nopots.
Speaker 16 (32:26):
It's got to touch that about it. And I bought
like fifteen how We're going to see this for a
long time. Lots of different colors. Oh no, no, you
know if you look at me every day, Ryan, and
I'm surprised you don't, I wear something similar every day.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I see it every day. I just don't want to
say it every day today. It's particularly obvious because of
the color contract.
Speaker 16 (32:44):
You and my wife are on the same page.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Cap.
Speaker 16 (32:47):
But here's here's the beautiful thing about me. I'm comfortable
in my own skin, okay, And I couldn't give a
monkey's what you think.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Do you know what the best thing is for our listeners?
They're not viewers. That's well they will.
Speaker 16 (32:56):
Be because you realize all the cameras in the studio
we feed this out, so you know anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
But thank you for the compliment. On the Jackey, You're welcome,
not but not the top. What's on the show today?
Speaker 16 (33:07):
Oh I don't know, John Coohan, but a job even
on the Rugby will prove you that. The good news
around the builders did you cover that this morning? But yeah,
that's encouraging.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm very encouraged. Airports. Did you see the airline business right.
Speaker 16 (33:20):
To the extent we should have been there years ago?
I mean the fact, you know, six years we're finally
going we look at us six years on while the
rest of the world's moved on. The cathedral thing. I mean,
being from christ Church, of course you can't be. I mean,
if there's one thing that needs sorting in christ Church,
it's that the church, so hopefully and the guy Stewart
behind it, he's from you, PDL, the Stuart family in
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christ Church, PDL and stuff. So he's driving that. So
he's a go getter. So anyway, all of that more Ryan.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Very good, maybe some fashion advice, have a great pride everyone.
Mike is here with you. Next to on News Talk
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