November 12, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Thursday 13th of November 2025, Sir Brian Roche is investigating Andrew Coster over the IPCA report.
Watercare is set to pay a $1 million settlement to 10 oyster farmers affected by a sewage spill.
FENZ is proposing to cut more than a hundred jobs, PSA National Secretary Fleur Fitzsimons explains how it will impact firefighters.
Plus US Correspondent Mitch McCann has the latest on new allegations from House Democrats that Donald Trump knew about Mr Epstein's illegal behaviour and the latest on the US government shutdown.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
They'd be good.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Morning and welcome to Thursday, just gone six after five
coming up? What will it cost us to get rid
of Costa? Mitch mccannon is in the US. New Epstein
emails from Beyond the Grave Oyster farmer compensation, FENS is
cutting jobs and we'll look at what next year could
be the overhang.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Election, the agenda birth this.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Morning, Thursday, the threneth and November we got more Epstein emails,
this time ones that referenced Trump.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
In an April twenty eleven email released by Democrats on
the House Oversight Committee, lawmakers say Epstein wrote to his
now convicted accomplice, Gilen Maxwell, three years after pleading guilty
to sex crimes involving a minor, telling her, I want
you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
Unnamed victims spent hours at my house with him. He
(00:59):
has never once been mentioned. According to the released emails,
Maxwell response, I have been thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Now, Gilaine. In the emails, she's referred to as Gmax.
So Gmax has been backing up Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in
any way. The President is never inappropriate with anybody. In
the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Okay, Are you only saying that because you want to
be moved to a lower security situation? Possibly rumors are swelling.
This is in the UK wishments that Kirs Starmer could
be well out of a job, possibly right after the
budget that's in two weeks time. The Health sectory with
streating might be eyeing his job, although he's denying it.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Someone's definitely been watching too much celebrity traitors in Downing Street.
I think they should swap it for Country File in
the future and calm down a bit. I am a
faithful These sorts of silly briefings out of Downing Street
are extremely self defeating, not least because they have now
given the public the impression the Prime Minister is fighting
for his job. No he isn't.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Finally approaches at COP thirty in brazila they protesting against
climate change for climate chargement.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Some of them were waving funners, saying things like our
forest is not for sale. There were some classes, as
I say, with both un and local Brazilian security as well.
That led to a few minor injuries.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
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Speaker 3 (02:35):
One news talks, I'd be eight after five. Bad news,
you haven't won lotto. Good news, no one's won lotto,
so you can do it again on Saturday. Jesus, it's
a scam, isn't it? How much money are you spending
on lotto right now? I was talking to McKenzie earlier
this morning and we were talking about the scratchees, which
I used to get when I was I don't know.
I think it was sort of like a Christmas thing.
(02:55):
You'd get it in your stocking or something like that.
But when I was young, like sixteen seventeen, that was
the most exciting thing you could do in Why can
I but what a scam? That was never won a thing.
I must have spent it was probably getting one a
week for a while. There Never once did I win
on a scratcheet. They are the real scam. But how
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much are you spinning on lotto? Is it worth it
And how much longer can this go on? Well, apparently
not much longer. Fifty five million dollars on Saturday and
that will be that. Now I want to talk to
you about jeven mcskimming because the hero's got a news
story out this morning. You know, the woman at the
at the center of all of this stuff. She and
she was facing a prosecution from police over the mixed
(03:42):
skimming emails that she was sending, the so called harassment,
that she was doing, the alleged harassment, and then police
dropped that charge. Right Well, Jared Savage has a story
in the Herald today that woman is still facing charges.
She's facing a separate charge in August this year, she
allegedly sent abusive emails to the officer in charge of
(04:06):
the original prosecution against her. She also allegedly sent emails
to this detective's wife, and the court documents, well they
say the ten emails were sent with intent to cause
serious emotional distress. Now, what's interesting about all of this
and this development this morning is the fact that it
could drag Costa. It could drag him into court potentially
(04:32):
next year, because he could be called to give evidence
because what's going to happen, and if this is all
alleged at this stage, but what's going to happen is
her lawyer is going to come out and say, well,
there's abuse going on here, there's abusive process in the prosecution.
Exhibit A is the IPCA report, which we've all seen
and well, you know we need to call witnesses, and
(04:55):
who are the witnesses? Well, look at the report, it's Costa.
So that is going to I mean, this thing's just
not going to go away in a hurry, is it.
Unlike I think Costa, who, as I said yesterday, is
bound to lose his job. Now. Interesting question this morning
is how much is that going to cost us? And
how do you actually do it? We'll talk to Max
Whitehead about that just before six this morning, cry Bridge
(05:16):
five eleven. So what is a back office staff? What
does a front office staff member? That is the question
for FORIGN emergency, because they're firing a whole bunch of people.
But at what point, you know, obviously a fight, we
can all see a firefighter and know what a frontline
firefighter looks like and does, But what about the people
that support them? Can the frontline do their bit without them?
(05:37):
We'll talk to the union about this. Next News Talks vb.
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Speaker 3 (05:49):
It is five poin fourteen on News TALKSB. So here's
the email from Jeffrey Epstein to Gmax to Gallaine Maxwell
concerning Trump. The Democrats have released us, by the way,
from the House Oversight Committee. They're looking into it all.
So he says, it's April second, twenty eleven. Epstein writes
to Maxwell, I want you to realize that that dog
(06:11):
that hasn't barked as Trump. He then mentions a victim's name,
and he said so and so spent ours at my
house with him, implying that Trump had spent ours at
his house at Epstein's house with a victim. X y
Z doesn't name it anyway. They are apparently trying to
get the full documents released in this will, as you
(06:32):
can imagine, play out today. We'll have Mitch McCann from
the US A back called to six Brands is proposing
to cut more than one hundred jobs, nothing on the
front line. They say it needs to save seventy million
dollars a year, ten percent of its annual budget eight
hundred million. Of this, the majority, vast majority, comes from
levies that we pay through insurance. Flurfitt Simon's is the
(06:53):
PSA National secretary with me this morning, Flir, good morning,
good morning. There's a difference between how many jobs they
they say are on the line and how many. You say,
what's the difference? Why the difference?
Speaker 8 (07:04):
So we've counted through their document. There are two hundred
and sixty page document. We've looked at the number of
roles we think are going and new roles being created.
We tried to check those numbers with FINS, but they
wouldn't give us confirmation. But actually we say none of
these jobs should be going because by reducing these roles,
we will make New Zealanders less safe when it comes
to protecting us from natural hazards and fires and emergencies.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So they say, are net one hundred and forty positions?
You're saying how many?
Speaker 8 (07:31):
We say a net loss of one six y nine.
But regardless, New Zealand cannot afford to lose these.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Specialists, all right, So what jobs are we talking about?
Not frontline? Right?
Speaker 8 (07:43):
The sorts of jobs that work on prevention operational response,
we're seeing them get rid of wildfire specialists. We're really
concerned that the people that support the front line, so
the people that for example, do the administrative work around
volunteer firefighters, are being cut significant. Some of those people
have been there for thirty years that have learnt how
(08:04):
to do their job very very well. They do it
very efficiently. They've given a lot of service to New
Zealand and we're just throwing them on the scrap peek.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
It's unreal how many how many wildfire specialists do we
have and how many would be we be reduced to.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
This is the thing with this proposal. A lot of
the numbers are a lot of the roles going are
putting jobs into other roles, so littered throughout the proposal
is other people will pick up this work, so there
will still definitely be a core of people left at FENS.
But actually ten percent reduction in a workforce is decimating that.
Speaker 9 (08:38):
Workforce, Well, you cannot achieve it is.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
The test of what decimating is It is decimating this workforce.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Many of what what's the test of decimating? Sorry, ten
percent is considered decimating a workforce?
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Yeah, it's a military term and it is it is
what you can what we do to make something less effective,
and that is what they had They are driving down.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Effectiveness of size doesn't mean efficiency. Size doesn't mean you're
doing a good job. A good job is done when
a good job is done. So the question is the
question is are these jobs mission critical and FENS seems
to be saying they're not.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
SENS has had this forced on them by the government
that is forcing these cuts. FENS doesn't think that it
can operate in this way in the document itself.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So why is the government forcing these cuts when the
vast majority of their funding comes from us through levees.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Well, the government refused to let FENDS increase the levy,
they are also requiring further cuts. It is a dereliction
of duty by Brook van Valden. Her job is to
make sure that Fire and Emergency in New Zealand can
keep New Zealand as safe from fires and natural disasters.
Her job is not to force these kind of cuts
that will make it less able to do its core functions.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
All right, FLU appreciate you times wanting flufit Simons from
the PSA time is eighteen minutes after five the water
care in Auckland pumping the poo into the water while
the oysters are trying to grow. Not great, obviously, compensation
is it enough?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
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Speaker 3 (10:25):
Talks that'd be twenty past five. Lots of people are
texting in about the unions. We just had them on
the program talking about fins. Ryan, just shush about this.
Let's hear from the other side. This is the problem
in a many of you saying when we can hear
from fins, where you don't hear from fins because while
they consult on a proposal like this, they don't talk publicly.
They declined to talk to us because and this is
(10:47):
what happens whenever a situation like this arises, because if
they go out and talk, then the employees who are
being restructured can take a PG. So they're kind of
their hands are tied. So it is a one sided
These are always a generally a one sided debate. Five
twenty one, Brian Bridge water Care is set to pay
one million dollars in settlement to ten oyster farmers affected
(11:09):
by a sewage spill. Around twelve hundred cubic metres of
wastewater entered the Mahuangi River, forcing farmers to halt harvesting
for nearly a month and that done. Is chair of
the Oyster Farmers Association, Mahudangi Oyster Farmers Association joining me
this morning. The net good morning, good morning. So a
million bucks, What's how far does that go?
Speaker 9 (11:30):
It goes between ten farmers. So it's it's basically just
to get over this little hunt that we're just going
through at the moment. But there's further evaluations that need
to be done that need to be sort of finalized
with the amount of demage has been done to the
harbor and the reputation of the Mahongy oyster farmers over
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the next two months.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Are there only ten farmers in the area or what
is Are there others that have been affected that aren't
getting compensated.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
There's ten farmers in the Maharani Harbor that are part
of the cost center. We have spent catching farmers that
are in the harbor, which they've got big operators. They
catch oysters from the Mahari and transport them through to
the Corimandel and cleaveden.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
How much do you reckon this has cost the individual farmers.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
A really farmers different so like every farmer of farms
and their orters in a different way. So I can't
really sort of like put an exact pin number on
each farmer.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
What does it do to your your reputation? I mean
if you're now I mean I'm talking about Mahadania oysters
and I'm talking about sewage.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Yeah, well, you know the biggest thing is, you know,
like what price do they put on not being able
to swim fish and eat delicious oysters?
Speaker 10 (12:53):
You know?
Speaker 9 (12:54):
A million is not enough each each and every day
the harvest shut their stories about wastewater and the oyster.
Our reputation as the marching oyster farmers continues just to
be damaged.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And I owned, I completely agree with you. And they're
not compensating for that at this point, are they? It
does seem it does seem to be fair to them
that Lake Water Care is genuinely engaged like listening and
talking and paying. Is that fair.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
For this incidence? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But not others? No, how many others.
Speaker 9 (13:29):
We've had, like I think thirty two thirty five skills.
Throughout the last year, we've been open probably about five
or six weeks for the whole year, so it's been
tougher for every farmer.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And this is the only one they're paying out for.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
This is the one accepting liability for because it supposedly
was a power food that their pump stations have failed.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Lynette, appreciate your trying this morning. Nette Done, chair of
the Mahani Oyster Association. Twenty four minutes after five News
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
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Speaker 3 (14:11):
It is five twenty six. I've seen a lot of
commentary in the last couple of days about our government's
debt position. We're up over forty percent of GDP, doubled
on pre COVID. You already know all of this, but
there are those on the left who say that is
way too little. Basically, we should borrow more. Forget about
a debt selling, borrow more, throw it at the public service.
Create some jobs, any jobs who cares, just get them
(14:33):
out there right And that's what Karne is doing in
Canada right now. His budget would double the debt position
debt to GDP ratio, they've got Trump tariffs coming at them,
they've got weak domestic demand. So he's basically getting out
the defenb and he's trying to revive the economy. And
make no mistake, if a labor lead government were to
get and that is exactly what they would be doing here.
(14:55):
Maybe not to the same extent. The problem is we
don't know. Chrislkins has said, yeah, we need to invest more, Yeah,
Knesan economics, et cetera, et cetera, but how much don't know?
To party Maldi and the Greens, you know, will make
sure that they do more and on spend the money
on what that is the question. Now, remember Robertson had
(15:16):
a debt ceiling thirty percent of GDP. Well, that didn't
go very well. Didn't last very long, did it. The
fact is it's quite popular to spend money. It sounds
like you're doing something. The more you spend, the more
you care. That's the kind of prevalent theory, isn't it. Actually,
If you look at average public debt, the ratio to
GDP for big economies advanced economies, it's roughly one hundred
(15:37):
and ten percent. So we are way under that. But
we need to remember we're a small country, we're a
trading country. We are exposed and we're in the middle
of a trade wall. It's not forget. What we need
is headroom. Now, morning Star, they've just given the government
the triple A credit rating. They said as much. And
as for those banks we've been talking about this week,
(15:59):
massive profits and everyone's saying, oh, it's so evil, it's
so nasty. Well, turns out in the same morning Star report,
it's actually quite important that we have profitable banks. Morning
Star says that we've weathered this housing market correction so
well because in part of well capitalized banks that are
also very liquid, that have strong buffers to absorb losses.
(16:22):
So not all is as it seems. Bank profits and
a seemingly stingy government insisting on returning the books to
surplus not only keep our interest rates down but also
help keep us afloat.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Bryan Bridge now it's.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Staying Afloat's hard for Starmer at the moment over in
the UK because there is talk and it's actually coming
from they reckon inside Number ten that he's been challenged
for the leadership, and he's saying, oh no, no, no, I'm
all good. I'm staying in.
Speaker 11 (16:50):
My team and I are absolutely focused on delivering for
the country. I'm lately be clear, of course, mister speaker.
I'm never authorized attach on Covenant members. I appoint them
to that post because they're the best people to carry
out their jobs.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Problems problem for Starmer is the numbers that they're getting
in the polls. So if you have a look at those,
and the backbenches are starting to get nervous. I mean
they're only sixteen months into this. They had a landslide victory,
but the most recent UGUB survey had Labor in fourth
place behind Reform, the Tories and the Greens seventeen percent,
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the lowest result ever recorded by that Polster. News Talk
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Speaker 3 (17:50):
Twenty four away six News Talk said, be great to
have you coming this morning. At coming up we will
cross to the US. There's a new Epstein email from
Beyond the Grave. Mitch mccan joins us and before six
o'clock we'll look at the best and quickest way to
get rid of Costco if that's what they want to do,
of course, and that is a still an if at
this point. Now instant Key, with so many people have
texted him, I just said that, you know, the lotto
(18:13):
the scratch is just a bit of a scam. I mean,
I'm sure people do win, and clearly they do, because
that's what you're telling me, Ryan, scratches are not a scam,
says Jan. A friend of mine won forty thousand dollars
a couple of years back. Yeah, but Jan, that's one
friend a couple of years ago. They're probably the only
person who's ever won in the history of the world. Ryan,
(18:34):
I buy four lines of Power Bull. It's only six
bucks for the ticket, so not that much of an expense.
That's probably the better way to do it than the
twenty dollars one every time, Ryan, instant keyw we isn't
a scam. I won one hundred thousand dollars and twenty
thirteen on a five dollars scratch. Okay, great, So now
we have two winners over more than ten years. We've
got two winners and twelve years sounds like a scam.
(18:57):
If it walks as Judas say is, if it walks
like a scam, talks like a scam, quacks like as scam,
it's probably a scam. Twenty three minutes away from sextular
reporters around the country, Calum Propter in Donedian Calum, good morning.
Speaker 12 (19:11):
Morning Rhyino won ten bucks once?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Okay, how long ago, Clum? Oh, within the last year anyway? Okay,
all right, so we have three winners in the last
twelve years. Okay, great? And how much did the ticket
cost you, Colum?
Speaker 12 (19:29):
Well, the the five dollars one I think I bought,
so double my money? Well no, yeah, I got my
money back a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Hey, you've got some water in Dunedin and the plans
all signed off.
Speaker 12 (19:41):
It has the Secretary for Local Governments signed on the
dotted line, so we're good to go for the next
ten years. Here this plan is required as part of
the government's Local Water Done Well reform. It sets out
how water services will be delivered and funded for the
next decade for duned and it also confirms the Council
will retain in house control of our drinking water, waste
(20:03):
water and stormwater services. Our Mayor, Sophie Barker says this
model will continue to make it easier to coordinate water
with other services they also provide. It'll be a staged
implementation completed to meet financial sustainability requirements by July twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
All right, how's your where they come? Our chance for
shower here today?
Speaker 12 (20:21):
Hopefully they stay away for the cricket here Southeasterly's fifteen the.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Height, brilliant, thank you, clear as the christ It's clear,
good morning, good morning, you've got The AMP show.
Speaker 13 (20:29):
Yes Country comes to the city from today. Thousands are
expected at the Agricultural Park. This year it has gained
its royal status for the first time since twenty ten.
That means the show is known as the Royal Amp
Show of New Zealand, hosted by the Canterbury Amp now
Canterbury Amp Association Chair Sir David Carter says being a
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royal show does tend to attract far more entries and visitors.
He says there's already good interest, with the likes of
trade entries up twenty percent compared to last year. There
are some other milestones as well, including having the most
entries and many of the competitive animal competitions, and also
for the likes of wood chopping.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Fun Week for christ Church, Fun Week for Canterbury. How's
your weather for this?
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (21:14):
Unfortunately, today's the worst of it. We've got rain heavy today,
clearing in the evening, but we'll stay cloudy, southerly's and
only fourteen degrees. But it gets better tomorrow, much nicer.
Mainly find twenty three than sunny both Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I'm beautiful. That's the main thing for the weekend. Clear,
Thank you Max and willing to Max.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Good morning, Good morning Royan.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Now you're on the phone today because you're two years
to sort your Thaie line out. What's happening? What are
you talking about? They prompt a warning prompted over the
death of a diver, Max.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes and tech issues. This is Gideon to a Hudu,
a very experienced diver who died in the water off Eastbourne,
the other side of the harbor, on a simple fishing
trip with his brother to look for Kena. The sixty
year old went into the water with scuba gear for
twenty mine. It came up coughing blood and died. Then
and there on the shore. The warning from the coroner
(22:05):
is in regard to divers ensuring their medically fit to
do so that their equipment is up to date, regularly
checked to Hulu's cylinder had not been checked and he
had breathed it empty. He was also suffering from heart disease.
So all in all a very sad series of events.
This is a man who drove the bus for a
children at a Lower Hut school where his wife was
(22:26):
also principal, gave us time to a community initiative to
support the health of Mardy Men as well, a real
stalwat of Lower Hut and a sad death and lessons
from the coroner.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's very very certain. Mix has the weather in Wellington today.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Cloudy periods, isolated showers, strong northerly seventeen today's high.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I don't think you Nevers and Auckland this morning. Morning, Neavor,
good morning. He just doesn't sound as good on the
fine as ease. It's like the BBC has been taken
from him, taken out of his voice.
Speaker 14 (22:58):
Lovely English act and where's it gone?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Hey, we've got the Northern business hopes for minimal disruption
to Northern businesses.
Speaker 14 (23:07):
Yeah, now, look, this is the resurfacing works. State Highway
One through the Brinduwin Hills closed for the next four days.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
Now.
Speaker 14 (23:14):
This is the first of the two extended weekend closures
this month for all of these works to be done.
NZTA says that what they're going to be doing, They've
got the full with s felt surface. They're reinstating the
lane markings, the passing lanes, returning the route back to
eighty kilometers an hour, so all of that's going to
be done. So they're hoping. I think they've got twenty
(23:35):
minute you know delays, you know with the for the traffic,
but they're just getting all of this done before that
busy Christmas.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Well good, and I mean that roads closed half the
year anyway, isn't it. Hey, how's our weather today?
Speaker 10 (23:47):
Now?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Okay?
Speaker 14 (23:48):
Well, yes, isolated showers possibly heavy and thundery later in
the day. Also hail this afternoon and evening. Twenty one
is the high here and.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Fantastic neighbor, thank you eighteen minutes away. I've got a
lot of tickets for well did you get one for
last night? Neva?
Speaker 14 (24:02):
That was the only reason why I woke up last
night was to check my lotto for the forty five
million didn't win. I thought, right, I better come to work.
That was at like quarter past nine. This was on
my app And yes, I sure, I think I'm going
to I'm going to buy three tickets, three for fifty
five mil.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Three twenty dollars tickets.
Speaker 14 (24:20):
No, not three, twenty two?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Good luck?
Speaker 15 (24:24):
What are you not?
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Well?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I will, yeah you are? What would you buy? I
get one of the twenty dollars ones?
Speaker 14 (24:30):
Oh okay, just one?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Just one?
Speaker 14 (24:31):
Yeah, fair enough?
Speaker 15 (24:33):
Just one?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Neva, thank you. Seventeen minutes away from six Now, Ryan,
I won ten years ago, I won ten thousand dollars
in lotto, says Heather love your show. See that's again.
That's four tally is now four wins in twelve years
for the whole country. I mean it is a scam, Ryan,
This is getting quite esoterical about it. Loto is an
insulation for entertainment to give people with no hope hope. Actually,
(24:57):
it's very important for the nation's mental health. It is
little thrill, isn't it quite harmlessed? You'd have to say
on the whole seventeen to six where state side with
Mitch McCann next, it is fourteen minutes away from six
news talks. They'd be you know, the overhang in parliament
because at the moment you've got three overhang seats basically
because you've got to Party Mardi who won the six
(25:17):
electorate six of the seven Malori electric seats, but they
only get enough party votes for like two or three,
well three or four seats, so there's an overhang of
seats right and next year it's going to be quite
important because the race is so tight. You would have
seen that poll yesterday. Will we have an the overhang
will act kind of like with lotto, is kind of
a powerball for the Left because it gives you and
(25:41):
this is assuming that Labour doesn't win and they are
probably better off their chances of forming a government are
better off if they don't win the Maori electorate seats.
They go for the party vote from those electors and
then to Party Marty gets the seats and they get
the overhang, and that gives the Left more votes and
that gets them across the line potentially. My question is
(26:04):
what would that feel like if the reason that a
Left government gets into powers because of an overhang essentially
boot powerballing them, propelling them to power. How would that feel? Legitimate?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So it's anyway from six to let's go stateside with
Mitch McCann. Mitch, the latest Epstein from beyond the Grave.
These Epstein emails keep coming, and this one mentions Trump
quite specifically.
Speaker 15 (26:37):
Yeah, that's right, Good morning, Ryan. Your allegations this morning
that suggest Donald Trump may have known more about the
exploits of Jeffrey Epstein than he has led on. Now,
the context of this is that the administration has been
under a lot appreciative release of all the Epstein files,
these documents and emails, which some believe will shed light
to the extent of his crimes and may disclose the
involvement of other high profile names. Now House Democrats have
(26:59):
released emails from Epstein's estate. Now, keep in mind here
before I read them, that Donald Trump has always said
he wasn't involved or had any knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
This is one email from April twenty eleven, Epstein wrote
to Glaine Maxwell. He said, I want you to realize
that the dog that hasn't barked as Trump He also
added an unnamed victim spent hours at my house with him.
(27:22):
He has never once been mentioned, and in twenty nineteen
he wrote to the author Michael Wolfe about Donald Trump.
Of course he knew about the girls, as he asked
Elaine to stop. Now, the White House sees these stories
are nothing more than bad faith efforts to distract from
his historic accomplishments. The White House is due to speak
at a press briefing in about an hour, and you
can expect that conversation will dominate the press briefing much.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Where are we at with releasing the full files? It
hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 15 (27:48):
Ay, it hasn't happened yet, and the White House says
there's essentially no need to do so. But I think
this will increase the pressure on them. Caroline Leavitt will
be asked about this and Donald Trump later in the day.
And you know, one of the big issues for Donald
Trump is this just keeps coming up. I think you
said beyond the grave. It keeps coming up every couple
of weeks, and it's really infuriating Trump and it's really
(28:09):
upsetting many of his base because he campaigned on releasing
all the files. So I think this increases the pressure
to do so.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
It does, Mitch, thank you for that, Mitch mccanna and
US correspondence. It's just going to leave it away from six.
Ryan Toss's days in the public service look to be numbered.
Sir Brian Roch is investigating him over the IPCA report. Meanwhile,
three current police employees are also under investigation over their
part in the alleged cover up. Max Whitehead, employment expert
with US this morning, Max, Good morning.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Good morning Ryan. Yes, it's a messy, messy piece of
work here.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Isn't it certainly is. What's the quickest way for this
to end? Do you think in the Coster situation.
Speaker 10 (28:46):
In the cost of situation, the employer has to undertake
an independent investigation. Now they can present to mister cost
of the facts, given him an opportunity to explain, and
then once they've received that, then they're free to act.
Now the under the there's legislation already developed there that
under Schedule seven, the on the Public Service Act, that
(29:10):
they can proceed and take an action against the like
in his current role a chief executive and terminate his
employment for just cause.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
What's a just cause?
Speaker 10 (29:23):
Well exactly, bringing the organization to disrepute is very very
important for a high profile individual like mister Costa. If
he has brought the organization into disrepute, it's a sackable offense.
But they have to give him an opportunity to explain
his side of the story.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So once they've done that and then they sack him,
can he take a personal grievance?
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Absolutely, he is an employee and his employer is the
Public Service commissioner.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
How much do you know? How much do you think
the other option courses that he walks and there is
some kind of golden parachute, what does that? How does
that normally work?
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Well, if there is a remote chance that he could
probably litigate and cause all sorts of embarrassment difficulties for
the public service, they are quite often, it happens often.
I've got to say, there is negotiations and that's where
a parachute can be provided, which to me is pretty abhorrent.
(30:27):
I mean, already they've got to undertake another independence investigation
just because of him, and because it's a different department too.
That does make a lot of sense, But however, there's
a cost to that, and there's going to be a
cost to the public. Again, we end up paying for
lots of things. I mean there's millions and millions of
(30:48):
dollars the public are going to have to part with
just in terms of investigations and plural many investigations, and
that's pretty tough on us taxpayers.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Appreciate your time. Max Whitehead employment expert US this morning.
By the way, his contract is a two and a
half million dollar five year contract, and as Max has said,
if we want to get him out of it early,
then we might have to pay something for that privilege.
I know. Eight minutes to six News Talks.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
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Speaker 3 (31:28):
B six on News Talk ZB. We had flur Fit
Simon's on earlier from the PSA and Mike as Mike
rolls his eyes and she was talking about FENS getting
rid of wildfire experts and many of you are not
happy that FENS even has wildfire experts. Ryan, fires go
the direction of the wind. If stuff's dry, it goes
(31:49):
up faster, not rocket science. Five to six Mike, good
morning morning, Hey, I thought of you yesterday because I spad.
You know a guy, Grant Schofield, who's I want to say, yes,
he's You might have had him on the show. He's
a public health professor a U T. And I know
you public health professor. You think, oh, but he's probably
the most palatable one I think out there. Did you
(32:11):
tell him that?
Speaker 10 (32:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I didn't. I didn't, but I listened to him, which
normally I wouldn't do. And anyway, creatine, do you take creatine?
Katie does?
Speaker 16 (32:21):
Yet it's a it's a big thing.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Apparently, I've wondered it almost a wonder.
Speaker 16 (32:26):
Yeah, don't even get me started on this. You come
around to our house. I mean, obviously you're not going to.
But but if you came round to our house and
said stuff like gut health, creatine, all those sort of things,
you'd be you'd be in for a multi hour lecture.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Because I know that you're big on health. You know
you're keeping healthy and fit and stuff like that. So
you don't take it personally? No, why not? Because there's
no he said, there's no downside.
Speaker 16 (32:48):
There is no downside. The difficulty is I take so
much stuff that there is no downside to that.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
By the time you finished.
Speaker 16 (32:57):
At some point, ye, you've got to you've got to
gott to draw the line on how much stuff you're taking.
But creatine is a major And if you want to
read into coffee, good old fashioned coffee, the current research
on coffee is there is no downside to coffee, and
it's all upside, not just in that kind of it's
kind of good for you, it's amazingly good for you.
So if you get on creatine and coffee, you're often running.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well, exactly, why don't you just put some creatine in
your coffee?
Speaker 16 (33:21):
That's what Katie does. You basically put creating. Well, you
powdered it up and your throat and everything.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I went straight to the story yesterday afternoon, bought well.
Speaker 16 (33:30):
No next, but next problem with all of this, and
you'll learn this if you came around to our house,
is like, well, that's never going to happen.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Of course not.
Speaker 16 (33:36):
And in most of these things there is creatine and creatine,
and there's you know, it's the quality.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I said, I said to the moment, she said that's
the cheapest, and I said, what's the best the same?
That's not true, not true? You know what one I
got down of course, I know what one you've got.
Come around to our house sometime. Actually, don't have a
good day. See tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
They'd be good.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Morning and welcome to Thursday, just gone six after five
coming up? What will it cost us to get rid
of Costa? Mitch mccannon is in the US. New Epstein
emails from Beyond the Grave Oyster farmer compensation, FENS is
cutting jobs and we'll look at what next year could
be the overhang.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Election, the agenda birth this.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Morning, Thursday, the threneth and November we got more Epstein emails,
this time ones that referenced Trump.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
In an April twenty eleven email released by Democrats on
the House Oversight Committee, lawmakers say Epstein wrote to his
now convicted accomplice, Gilen Maxwell, three years after pleading guilty
to sex crimes involving a minor, telling her, I want
you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
Unnamed victims spent hours at my house with him. He
(00:59):
has never once been mentioned. According to the released emails,
Maxwell response, I have been thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Now, Gilaine. In the emails, she's referred to as Gmax.
So Gmax has been backing up Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in
any way. The President is never inappropriate with anybody. In
the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Okay, Are you only saying that because you want to
be moved to a lower security situation? Possibly rumors are swelling.
This is in the UK wishments that Kirs Starmer could
be well out of a job, possibly right after the
budget that's in two weeks time. The Health sectory with
streating might be eyeing his job, although he's denying it.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Someone's definitely been watching too much celebrity traitors in Downing Street.
I think they should swap it for Country File in
the future and calm down a bit. I am a
faithful These sorts of silly briefings out of Downing Street
are extremely self defeating, not least because they have now
given the public the impression the Prime Minister is fighting
for his job. No he isn't.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Finally approaches at COP thirty in brazila they protesting against
climate change for climate chargement.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Some of them were waving funners, saying things like our
forest is not for sale. There were some classes, as
I say, with both un and local Brazilian security as well.
That led to a few minor injuries.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
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Speaker 3 (02:35):
One news talks, I'd be eight after five. Bad news,
you haven't won lotto. Good news, no one's won lotto,
so you can do it again on Saturday. Jesus, it's
a scam, isn't it? How much money are you spending
on lotto right now? I was talking to McKenzie earlier
this morning and we were talking about the scratchees, which
I used to get when I was I don't know.
I think it was sort of like a Christmas thing.
(02:55):
You'd get it in your stocking or something like that.
But when I was young, like sixteen seventeen, that was
the most exciting thing you could do in Why can
I but what a scam? That was never won a thing.
I must have spent it was probably getting one a
week for a while. There Never once did I win
on a scratcheet. They are the real scam. But how
(03:18):
much are you spinning on lotto? Is it worth it
And how much longer can this go on? Well, apparently
not much longer. Fifty five million dollars on Saturday and
that will be that. Now I want to talk to
you about jeven mcskimming because the hero's got a news
story out this morning. You know, the woman at the
at the center of all of this stuff. She and
she was facing a prosecution from police over the mixed
(03:42):
skimming emails that she was sending, the so called harassment,
that she was doing, the alleged harassment, and then police
dropped that charge. Right Well, Jared Savage has a story
in the Herald today that woman is still facing charges.
She's facing a separate charge in August this year, she
allegedly sent abusive emails to the officer in charge of
(04:06):
the original prosecution against her. She also allegedly sent emails
to this detective's wife, and the court documents, well they
say the ten emails were sent with intent to cause
serious emotional distress. Now, what's interesting about all of this
and this development this morning is the fact that it
could drag Costa. It could drag him into court potentially
(04:32):
next year, because he could be called to give evidence
because what's going to happen, and if this is all
alleged at this stage, but what's going to happen is
her lawyer is going to come out and say, well,
there's abuse going on here, there's abusive process in the prosecution.
Exhibit A is the IPCA report, which we've all seen
and well, you know we need to call witnesses, and
(04:55):
who are the witnesses? Well, look at the report, it's Costa.
So that is going to I mean, this thing's just
not going to go away in a hurry, is it.
Unlike I think Costa, who, as I said yesterday, is
bound to lose his job. Now. Interesting question this morning
is how much is that going to cost us? And
how do you actually do it? We'll talk to Max
Whitehead about that just before six this morning, cry Bridge
(05:16):
five eleven. So what is a back office staff? What
does a front office staff member? That is the question
for FORIGN emergency, because they're firing a whole bunch of people.
But at what point, you know, obviously a fight, we
can all see a firefighter and know what a frontline
firefighter looks like and does, But what about the people
that support them? Can the frontline do their bit without them?
(05:37):
We'll talk to the union about this. Next News Talks vb.
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Speaker 3 (05:49):
It is five poin fourteen on News TALKSB. So here's
the email from Jeffrey Epstein to Gmax to Gallaine Maxwell
concerning Trump. The Democrats have released us, by the way,
from the House Oversight Committee. They're looking into it all.
So he says, it's April second, twenty eleven. Epstein writes
to Maxwell, I want you to realize that that dog
(06:11):
that hasn't barked as Trump. He then mentions a victim's name,
and he said so and so spent ours at my
house with him, implying that Trump had spent ours at
his house at Epstein's house with a victim. X y
Z doesn't name it anyway. They are apparently trying to
get the full documents released in this will, as you
(06:32):
can imagine, play out today. We'll have Mitch McCann from
the US A back called to six Brands is proposing
to cut more than one hundred jobs, nothing on the
front line. They say it needs to save seventy million
dollars a year, ten percent of its annual budget eight
hundred million. Of this, the majority, vast majority, comes from
levies that we pay through insurance. Flurfitt Simon's is the
(06:53):
PSA National secretary with me this morning, Flir, good morning,
good morning. There's a difference between how many jobs they
they say are on the line and how many. You say,
what's the difference? Why the difference?
Speaker 8 (07:04):
So we've counted through their document. There are two hundred
and sixty page document. We've looked at the number of
roles we think are going and new roles being created.
We tried to check those numbers with FINS, but they
wouldn't give us confirmation. But actually we say none of
these jobs should be going because by reducing these roles,
we will make New Zealanders less safe when it comes
to protecting us from natural hazards and fires and emergencies.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So they say, are net one hundred and forty positions?
You're saying how many?
Speaker 8 (07:31):
We say a net loss of one six y nine.
But regardless, New Zealand cannot afford to lose these.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Specialists, all right, So what jobs are we talking about?
Not frontline? Right?
Speaker 8 (07:43):
The sorts of jobs that work on prevention operational response,
we're seeing them get rid of wildfire specialists. We're really
concerned that the people that support the front line, so
the people that for example, do the administrative work around
volunteer firefighters, are being cut significant. Some of those people
have been there for thirty years that have learnt how
(08:04):
to do their job very very well. They do it
very efficiently. They've given a lot of service to New
Zealand and we're just throwing them on the scrap peek.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
It's unreal how many how many wildfire specialists do we
have and how many would be we be reduced to.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
This is the thing with this proposal. A lot of
the numbers are a lot of the roles going are
putting jobs into other roles, so littered throughout the proposal
is other people will pick up this work, so there
will still definitely be a core of people left at FENS.
But actually ten percent reduction in a workforce is decimating that.
Speaker 9 (08:38):
Workforce, Well, you cannot achieve it is.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
The test of what decimating is It is decimating this workforce.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Many of what what's the test of decimating? Sorry, ten
percent is considered decimating a workforce?
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Yeah, it's a military term and it is it is
what you can what we do to make something less effective,
and that is what they had They are driving down.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Effectiveness of size doesn't mean efficiency. Size doesn't mean you're
doing a good job. A good job is done when
a good job is done. So the question is the
question is are these jobs mission critical and FENS seems
to be saying they're not.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
SENS has had this forced on them by the government
that is forcing these cuts. FENS doesn't think that it
can operate in this way in the document itself.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So why is the government forcing these cuts when the
vast majority of their funding comes from us through levees.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Well, the government refused to let FENDS increase the levy,
they are also requiring further cuts. It is a dereliction
of duty by Brook van Valden. Her job is to
make sure that Fire and Emergency in New Zealand can
keep New Zealand as safe from fires and natural disasters.
Her job is not to force these kind of cuts
that will make it less able to do its core functions.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
All right, FLU appreciate you times wanting flufit Simons from
the PSA time is eighteen minutes after five the water
care in Auckland pumping the poo into the water while
the oysters are trying to grow. Not great, obviously, compensation
is it enough?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
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Speaker 3 (10:25):
Talks that'd be twenty past five. Lots of people are
texting in about the unions. We just had them on
the program talking about fins. Ryan, just shush about this.
Let's hear from the other side. This is the problem
in a many of you saying when we can hear
from fins, where you don't hear from fins because while
they consult on a proposal like this, they don't talk publicly.
They declined to talk to us because and this is
(10:47):
what happens whenever a situation like this arises, because if
they go out and talk, then the employees who are
being restructured can take a PG. So they're kind of
their hands are tied. So it is a one sided
These are always a generally a one sided debate. Five
twenty one, Brian Bridge water Care is set to pay
one million dollars in settlement to ten oyster farmers affected
(11:09):
by a sewage spill. Around twelve hundred cubic metres of
wastewater entered the Mahuangi River, forcing farmers to halt harvesting
for nearly a month and that done. Is chair of
the Oyster Farmers Association, Mahudangi Oyster Farmers Association joining me
this morning. The net good morning, good morning. So a
million bucks, What's how far does that go?
Speaker 9 (11:30):
It goes between ten farmers. So it's it's basically just
to get over this little hunt that we're just going
through at the moment. But there's further evaluations that need
to be done that need to be sort of finalized
with the amount of demage has been done to the
harbor and the reputation of the Mahongy oyster farmers over
(11:52):
the next two months.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Are there only ten farmers in the area or what
is Are there others that have been affected that aren't
getting compensated.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
There's ten farmers in the Maharani Harbor that are part
of the cost center. We have spent catching farmers that
are in the harbor, which they've got big operators. They
catch oysters from the Mahari and transport them through to
the Corimandel and cleaveden.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
How much do you reckon this has cost the individual farmers.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
A really farmers different so like every farmer of farms
and their orters in a different way. So I can't
really sort of like put an exact pin number on
each farmer.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
What does it do to your your reputation? I mean
if you're now I mean I'm talking about Mahadania oysters
and I'm talking about sewage.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Yeah, well, you know the biggest thing is, you know,
like what price do they put on not being able
to swim fish and eat delicious oysters?
Speaker 10 (12:53):
You know?
Speaker 9 (12:54):
A million is not enough each each and every day
the harvest shut their stories about wastewater and the oyster.
Our reputation as the marching oyster farmers continues just to
be damaged.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And I owned, I completely agree with you. And they're
not compensating for that at this point, are they? It
does seem it does seem to be fair to them
that Lake Water Care is genuinely engaged like listening and
talking and paying. Is that fair.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
For this incidence? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But not others? No, how many others.
Speaker 9 (13:29):
We've had, like I think thirty two thirty five skills.
Throughout the last year, we've been open probably about five
or six weeks for the whole year, so it's been
tougher for every farmer.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And this is the only one they're paying out for.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
This is the one accepting liability for because it supposedly
was a power food that their pump stations have failed.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Lynette, appreciate your trying this morning. Nette Done, chair of
the Mahani Oyster Association. Twenty four minutes after five News
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Speaker 3 (14:11):
It is five twenty six. I've seen a lot of
commentary in the last couple of days about our government's
debt position. We're up over forty percent of GDP, doubled
on pre COVID. You already know all of this, but
there are those on the left who say that is
way too little. Basically, we should borrow more. Forget about
a debt selling, borrow more, throw it at the public service.
Create some jobs, any jobs who cares, just get them
(14:33):
out there right And that's what Karne is doing in
Canada right now. His budget would double the debt position
debt to GDP ratio, they've got Trump tariffs coming at them,
they've got weak domestic demand. So he's basically getting out
the defenb and he's trying to revive the economy. And
make no mistake, if a labor lead government were to
get and that is exactly what they would be doing here.
(14:55):
Maybe not to the same extent. The problem is we
don't know. Chrislkins has said, yeah, we need to invest more, Yeah,
Knesan economics, et cetera, et cetera, but how much don't know?
To party Maldi and the Greens, you know, will make
sure that they do more and on spend the money
on what that is the question. Now, remember Robertson had
(15:16):
a debt ceiling thirty percent of GDP. Well, that didn't
go very well. Didn't last very long, did it. The
fact is it's quite popular to spend money. It sounds
like you're doing something. The more you spend, the more
you care. That's the kind of prevalent theory, isn't it. Actually,
If you look at average public debt, the ratio to
GDP for big economies advanced economies, it's roughly one hundred
(15:37):
and ten percent. So we are way under that. But
we need to remember we're a small country, we're a
trading country. We are exposed and we're in the middle
of a trade wall. It's not forget. What we need
is headroom. Now, morning Star, they've just given the government
the triple A credit rating. They said as much. And
as for those banks we've been talking about this week,
(15:59):
massive profits and everyone's saying, oh, it's so evil, it's
so nasty. Well, turns out in the same morning Star report,
it's actually quite important that we have profitable banks. Morning
Star says that we've weathered this housing market correction so
well because in part of well capitalized banks that are
also very liquid, that have strong buffers to absorb losses.
(16:22):
So not all is as it seems. Bank profits and
a seemingly stingy government insisting on returning the books to
surplus not only keep our interest rates down but also
help keep us afloat.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Bryan Bridge now it's.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Staying Afloat's hard for Starmer at the moment over in
the UK because there is talk and it's actually coming
from they reckon inside Number ten that he's been challenged
for the leadership, and he's saying, oh no, no, no, I'm
all good. I'm staying in.
Speaker 11 (16:50):
My team and I are absolutely focused on delivering for
the country. I'm lately be clear, of course, mister speaker.
I'm never authorized attach on Covenant members. I appoint them
to that post because they're the best people to carry
out their jobs.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Problems problem for Starmer is the numbers that they're getting
in the polls. So if you have a look at those,
and the backbenches are starting to get nervous. I mean
they're only sixteen months into this. They had a landslide victory,
but the most recent UGUB survey had Labor in fourth
place behind Reform, the Tories and the Greens seventeen percent,
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Twenty four away six News Talk said, be great to
have you coming this morning. At coming up we will
cross to the US. There's a new Epstein email from
Beyond the Grave. Mitch mccan joins us and before six
o'clock we'll look at the best and quickest way to
get rid of Costco if that's what they want to do,
of course, and that is a still an if at
this point. Now instant Key, with so many people have
texted him, I just said that, you know, the lotto
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the scratch is just a bit of a scam. I mean,
I'm sure people do win, and clearly they do, because
that's what you're telling me, Ryan, scratches are not a scam,
says Jan. A friend of mine won forty thousand dollars
a couple of years back. Yeah, but Jan, that's one
friend a couple of years ago. They're probably the only
person who's ever won in the history of the world. Ryan,
(18:34):
I buy four lines of Power Bull. It's only six
bucks for the ticket, so not that much of an expense.
That's probably the better way to do it than the
twenty dollars one every time, Ryan, instant keyw we isn't
a scam. I won one hundred thousand dollars and twenty
thirteen on a five dollars scratch. Okay, great, So now
we have two winners over more than ten years. We've
got two winners and twelve years sounds like a scam.
(18:57):
If it walks as Judas say is, if it walks
like a scam, talks like a scam, quacks like as scam,
it's probably a scam. Twenty three minutes away from sextular
reporters around the country, Calum Propter in Donedian Calum, good morning.
Speaker 12 (19:11):
Morning Rhyino won ten bucks once?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Okay, how long ago, Clum? Oh, within the last year anyway? Okay,
all right, so we have three winners in the last
twelve years. Okay, great? And how much did the ticket
cost you, Colum?
Speaker 12 (19:29):
Well, the the five dollars one I think I bought,
so double my money? Well no, yeah, I got my
money back a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Hey, you've got some water in Dunedin and the plans
all signed off.
Speaker 12 (19:41):
It has the Secretary for Local Governments signed on the
dotted line, so we're good to go for the next
ten years. Here this plan is required as part of
the government's Local Water Done Well reform. It sets out
how water services will be delivered and funded for the
next decade for duned and it also confirms the Council
will retain in house control of our drinking water, waste
(20:03):
water and stormwater services. Our Mayor, Sophie Barker says this
model will continue to make it easier to coordinate water
with other services they also provide. It'll be a staged
implementation completed to meet financial sustainability requirements by July twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
All right, how's your where they come? Our chance for
shower here today?
Speaker 12 (20:21):
Hopefully they stay away for the cricket here Southeasterly's fifteen the.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Height, brilliant, thank you, clear as the christ It's clear,
good morning, good morning, you've got The AMP show.
Speaker 13 (20:29):
Yes Country comes to the city from today. Thousands are
expected at the Agricultural Park. This year it has gained
its royal status for the first time since twenty ten.
That means the show is known as the Royal Amp
Show of New Zealand, hosted by the Canterbury Amp now
Canterbury Amp Association Chair Sir David Carter says being a
(20:51):
royal show does tend to attract far more entries and visitors.
He says there's already good interest, with the likes of
trade entries up twenty percent compared to last year. There
are some other milestones as well, including having the most
entries and many of the competitive animal competitions, and also
for the likes of wood chopping.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Fun Week for christ Church, Fun Week for Canterbury. How's
your weather for this?
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (21:14):
Unfortunately, today's the worst of it. We've got rain heavy today,
clearing in the evening, but we'll stay cloudy, southerly's and
only fourteen degrees. But it gets better tomorrow, much nicer.
Mainly find twenty three than sunny both Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I'm beautiful. That's the main thing for the weekend. Clear,
Thank you Max and willing to Max.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Good morning, Good morning Royan.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Now you're on the phone today because you're two years
to sort your Thaie line out. What's happening? What are
you talking about? They prompt a warning prompted over the
death of a diver, Max.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes and tech issues. This is Gideon to a Hudu,
a very experienced diver who died in the water off Eastbourne,
the other side of the harbor, on a simple fishing
trip with his brother to look for Kena. The sixty
year old went into the water with scuba gear for
twenty mine. It came up coughing blood and died. Then
and there on the shore. The warning from the coroner
(22:05):
is in regard to divers ensuring their medically fit to
do so that their equipment is up to date, regularly
checked to Hulu's cylinder had not been checked and he
had breathed it empty. He was also suffering from heart disease.
So all in all a very sad series of events.
This is a man who drove the bus for a
children at a Lower Hut school where his wife was
(22:26):
also principal, gave us time to a community initiative to
support the health of Mardy Men as well, a real
stalwat of Lower Hut and a sad death and lessons
from the coroner.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's very very certain. Mix has the weather in Wellington today.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Cloudy periods, isolated showers, strong northerly seventeen today's high.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I don't think you Nevers and Auckland this morning. Morning, Neavor,
good morning. He just doesn't sound as good on the
fine as ease. It's like the BBC has been taken
from him, taken out of his voice.
Speaker 14 (22:58):
Lovely English act and where's it gone?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Hey, we've got the Northern business hopes for minimal disruption
to Northern businesses.
Speaker 14 (23:07):
Yeah, now, look, this is the resurfacing works. State Highway
One through the Brinduwin Hills closed for the next four days.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
Now.
Speaker 14 (23:14):
This is the first of the two extended weekend closures
this month for all of these works to be done.
NZTA says that what they're going to be doing, They've
got the full with s felt surface. They're reinstating the
lane markings, the passing lanes, returning the route back to
eighty kilometers an hour, so all of that's going to
be done. So they're hoping. I think they've got twenty
(23:35):
minute you know delays, you know with the for the traffic,
but they're just getting all of this done before that
busy Christmas.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Well good, and I mean that roads closed half the
year anyway, isn't it. Hey, how's our weather today?
Speaker 10 (23:47):
Now?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Okay?
Speaker 14 (23:48):
Well, yes, isolated showers possibly heavy and thundery later in
the day. Also hail this afternoon and evening. Twenty one
is the high here and.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Fantastic neighbor, thank you eighteen minutes away. I've got a
lot of tickets for well did you get one for
last night? Neva?
Speaker 14 (24:02):
That was the only reason why I woke up last
night was to check my lotto for the forty five
million didn't win. I thought, right, I better come to work.
That was at like quarter past nine. This was on
my app And yes, I sure, I think I'm going
to I'm going to buy three tickets, three for fifty
five mil.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Three twenty dollars tickets.
Speaker 14 (24:20):
No, not three, twenty two?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Good luck?
Speaker 15 (24:24):
What are you not?
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Well?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I will, yeah you are? What would you buy? I
get one of the twenty dollars ones?
Speaker 14 (24:30):
Oh okay, just one?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Just one?
Speaker 14 (24:31):
Yeah, fair enough?
Speaker 15 (24:33):
Just one?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Neva, thank you. Seventeen minutes away from six Now, Ryan,
I won ten years ago, I won ten thousand dollars
in lotto, says Heather love your show. See that's again.
That's four tally is now four wins in twelve years
for the whole country. I mean it is a scam, Ryan,
This is getting quite esoterical about it. Loto is an
insulation for entertainment to give people with no hope hope. Actually,
(24:57):
it's very important for the nation's mental health. It is
little thrill, isn't it quite harmlessed? You'd have to say
on the whole seventeen to six where state side with
Mitch McCann next, it is fourteen minutes away from six
news talks. They'd be you know, the overhang in parliament
because at the moment you've got three overhang seats basically
because you've got to Party Mardi who won the six
(25:17):
electorate six of the seven Malori electric seats, but they
only get enough party votes for like two or three,
well three or four seats, so there's an overhang of
seats right and next year it's going to be quite
important because the race is so tight. You would have
seen that poll yesterday. Will we have an the overhang
will act kind of like with lotto, is kind of
a powerball for the Left because it gives you and
(25:41):
this is assuming that Labour doesn't win and they are
probably better off their chances of forming a government are
better off if they don't win the Maori electorate seats.
They go for the party vote from those electors and
then to Party Marty gets the seats and they get
the overhang, and that gives the Left more votes and
that gets them across the line potentially. My question is
(26:04):
what would that feel like if the reason that a
Left government gets into powers because of an overhang essentially
boot powerballing them, propelling them to power. How would that feel? Legitimate?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So it's anyway from six to let's go stateside with
Mitch McCann. Mitch, the latest Epstein from beyond the Grave.
These Epstein emails keep coming, and this one mentions Trump
quite specifically.
Speaker 15 (26:37):
Yeah, that's right, Good morning, Ryan. Your allegations this morning
that suggest Donald Trump may have known more about the
exploits of Jeffrey Epstein than he has led on. Now,
the context of this is that the administration has been
under a lot appreciative release of all the Epstein files,
these documents and emails, which some believe will shed light
to the extent of his crimes and may disclose the
involvement of other high profile names. Now House Democrats have
(26:59):
released emails from Epstein's estate. Now, keep in mind here
before I read them, that Donald Trump has always said
he wasn't involved or had any knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
This is one email from April twenty eleven, Epstein wrote
to Glaine Maxwell. He said, I want you to realize
that the dog that hasn't barked as Trump He also
added an unnamed victim spent hours at my house with him.
(27:22):
He has never once been mentioned, and in twenty nineteen
he wrote to the author Michael Wolfe about Donald Trump.
Of course he knew about the girls, as he asked
Elaine to stop. Now, the White House sees these stories
are nothing more than bad faith efforts to distract from
his historic accomplishments. The White House is due to speak
at a press briefing in about an hour, and you
can expect that conversation will dominate the press briefing much.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Where are we at with releasing the full files? It
hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 15 (27:48):
Ay, it hasn't happened yet, and the White House says
there's essentially no need to do so. But I think
this will increase the pressure on them. Caroline Leavitt will
be asked about this and Donald Trump later in the day.
And you know, one of the big issues for Donald
Trump is this just keeps coming up. I think you
said beyond the grave. It keeps coming up every couple
of weeks, and it's really infuriating Trump and it's really
(28:09):
upsetting many of his base because he campaigned on releasing
all the files. So I think this increases the pressure
to do so.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
It does, Mitch, thank you for that, Mitch mccanna and
US correspondence. It's just going to leave it away from six.
Ryan Toss's days in the public service look to be numbered.
Sir Brian Roch is investigating him over the IPCA report. Meanwhile,
three current police employees are also under investigation over their
part in the alleged cover up. Max Whitehead, employment expert
with US this morning, Max, Good morning.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Good morning Ryan. Yes, it's a messy, messy piece of
work here.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Isn't it certainly is. What's the quickest way for this
to end? Do you think in the Coster situation.
Speaker 10 (28:46):
In the cost of situation, the employer has to undertake
an independent investigation. Now they can present to mister cost
of the facts, given him an opportunity to explain, and
then once they've received that, then they're free to act.
Now the under the there's legislation already developed there that
under Schedule seven, the on the Public Service Act, that
(29:10):
they can proceed and take an action against the like
in his current role a chief executive and terminate his
employment for just cause.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
What's a just cause?
Speaker 10 (29:23):
Well exactly, bringing the organization to disrepute is very very
important for a high profile individual like mister Costa. If
he has brought the organization into disrepute, it's a sackable offense.
But they have to give him an opportunity to explain
his side of the story.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So once they've done that and then they sack him,
can he take a personal grievance?
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Absolutely, he is an employee and his employer is the
Public Service commissioner.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
How much do you know? How much do you think
the other option courses that he walks and there is
some kind of golden parachute, what does that? How does
that normally work?
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Well, if there is a remote chance that he could
probably litigate and cause all sorts of embarrassment difficulties for
the public service, they are quite often, it happens often.
I've got to say, there is negotiations and that's where
a parachute can be provided, which to me is pretty abhorrent.
(30:27):
I mean, already they've got to undertake another independence investigation
just because of him, and because it's a different department too.
That does make a lot of sense, But however, there's
a cost to that, and there's going to be a
cost to the public. Again, we end up paying for
lots of things. I mean there's millions and millions of
(30:48):
dollars the public are going to have to part with
just in terms of investigations and plural many investigations, and
that's pretty tough on us taxpayers.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Appreciate your time. Max Whitehead employment expert US this morning.
By the way, his contract is a two and a
half million dollar five year contract, and as Max has said,
if we want to get him out of it early,
then we might have to pay something for that privilege.
I know. Eight minutes to six News Talks.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
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Speaker 3 (31:28):
B six on News Talk ZB. We had flur Fit
Simon's on earlier from the PSA and Mike as Mike
rolls his eyes and she was talking about FENS getting
rid of wildfire experts and many of you are not
happy that FENS even has wildfire experts. Ryan, fires go
the direction of the wind. If stuff's dry, it goes
(31:49):
up faster, not rocket science. Five to six Mike, good
morning morning, Hey, I thought of you yesterday because I spad.
You know a guy, Grant Schofield, who's I want to say, yes,
he's You might have had him on the show. He's
a public health professor a U T. And I know
you public health professor. You think, oh, but he's probably
the most palatable one I think out there. Did you
(32:11):
tell him that?
Speaker 10 (32:12):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I didn't. I didn't, but I listened to him, which
normally I wouldn't do. And anyway, creatine, do you take creatine?
Katie does?
Speaker 16 (32:21):
Yet it's a it's a big thing.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Apparently, I've wondered it almost a wonder.
Speaker 16 (32:26):
Yeah, don't even get me started on this. You come
around to our house. I mean, obviously you're not going to.
But but if you came round to our house and
said stuff like gut health, creatine, all those sort of things,
you'd be you'd be in for a multi hour lecture.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Because I know that you're big on health. You know
you're keeping healthy and fit and stuff like that. So
you don't take it personally? No, why not? Because there's
no he said, there's no downside.
Speaker 16 (32:48):
There is no downside. The difficulty is I take so
much stuff that there is no downside to that.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
By the time you finished.
Speaker 16 (32:57):
At some point, ye, you've got to you've got to
gott to draw the line on how much stuff you're taking.
But creatine is a major And if you want to
read into coffee, good old fashioned coffee, the current research
on coffee is there is no downside to coffee, and
it's all upside, not just in that kind of it's
kind of good for you, it's amazingly good for you.
So if you get on creatine and coffee, you're often running.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well, exactly, why don't you just put some creatine in
your coffee?
Speaker 16 (33:21):
That's what Katie does. You basically put creating. Well, you
powdered it up and your throat and everything.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I went straight to the story yesterday afternoon, bought well.
Speaker 16 (33:30):
No next, but next problem with all of this, and
you'll learn this if you came around to our house,
is like, well, that's never going to happen.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Of course not.
Speaker 16 (33:36):
And in most of these things there is creatine and creatine,
and there's you know, it's the quality.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I said, I said to the moment, she said that's
the cheapest, and I said, what's the best the same?
That's not true, not true? You know what one I
got down of course, I know what one you've got.
Come around to our house sometime. Actually, don't have a
good day. See tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
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