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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning, Welcome to Monday. We'll look at the turn
up for the local elections at the weekend. Spoiler alert
wasn't great. We'll go to the UK starmers off to
Egypt for Gaza talks. Beef and Lamb on the methane
target Andrew here on Bathurston. What's happening with your road
cone tip line? The agenda Monday to thirty of October,
all twenty living hostages should be returned to Israel this

(00:32):
evening our time, two thousand detainees and Gaza will go
the other way. The President of Israel's been meeting with
the family.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
The hostages were well, Shad tears and received our sons
and doctor back home as soon as possible, where their
family joined by their families. We will bereave the losses
of our heroes and went to fight and saved their brothers.
As sisters and defenderstent of Israel, we will hug those well.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
We carry the warns, but what physical condition will they
be in the hospitals are standing by.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Since we do not know the exact medical or mental condition.
The health system is ready for every possible scenario, including
careful monitoring under the refeeding protocol based on lessons from
past return operations.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Trump he's busy doing victory lapse and should be in
Israel this evening. Meanwhile, Vance is on the defense over
sending National Guard troops into Chicago.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
You know, the gross majority of the violent crime in
that city is committed by a very tiny fraction of
the population. Why shouldn't federal troops empower the people in
Chicago to live safe lives when the governor and the
local mayor just simply refuse to do their job.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well because the court said you couldn't. Finally, it appears
Prince Andrew Old Randy Andy's being dragged back into the
Epstein thing. The Sun newspaper has apparently got their hands
on an email from Andrew to Epstein in twenty eleven
saying we're in this together.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
You remember from the infamous Sweaty interview That wasn't sweaty,
he said he cut him off in twenty ten by
mutual agreement.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
During that walk in the park we decided that we
would part company and I left. I think it was
the next day to this day, I never had any
contact with him from that day forward.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
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Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'd be ad after five on your Monday morning, great
to have your company. Nine two nine two the number
to text. I went to the movies on Friday afternoon,
saw one battle after another. Have you seen that'scot Leonardo DiCaprio.
It's three hours long, just a warning. Didn't quite realize
that going in, but it was a great movie. It
was a good movie, but weird, but good movie anyway,
went early and watched the Shorts, which is filled with advertisements,

(02:55):
and you don't really see many full, you know, big
TV ads these days because you don't watch a lot
of traditional TV anyway. Ads for KFC. You'll be pleased
to know they've got a new Katsu sort of rice,
bit of rice, bit of chicken, bit of cultural appropriation
from KFC. Well done. So that was interesting to learn.

(03:18):
Burger Fuel's got a new burger out and sandwich between
these ads was one for WAYGOVI you know, the weight
loss drug. And I was just sitting there thinking, Wow,
what a weird world we live in where we say,
on the one hand, go and eat all this fried
food and then take this injection and it all goes away.
But it's being accepted now. It's a way to solve

(03:38):
a major health problem. Costs US billions, kills people, makes
them sick, and people are now saying you should fund
this publicly, which I'm not entirely against, to be honest.
Imagine how much you would save society and hospitals if
you funded it publicly. And it's using, basically, in its essence,
using technology to fix a problem without the underlying cause,

(04:02):
which is eating too much and not exercising. But we're
okay with this. Who cares? If the outcomes the same,
we have to do something, then why not? And then
Sunday comes along and I'm thinking, why is it any
different with climate change? Government comes out yesterday and says
here's a target. We can have our cake and eat

(04:25):
it too. We can reduce emissions, we can solve the
problem using new technologies. You know, your fertilizers, your genetics,
feed the cows seaweed, that kind of stuff without addressing
the underlying cause, which is intensive dairy farming. To me,
this also sounds reasonable if we can reduce emissions over
time using technology rather than cutting production, cutting your nose

(04:48):
despite your face, why wouldn't we To me, feeding cows
seaweed is no different to you know, Joe blogs jabbing
himself with Wagovi. The number to Texas gone eleven. After five,
we'll go to Andrew Ortison the sport. That bath is
very messy, but a key. We came out on top.
That's what we like.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
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Speaker 2 (05:17):
I'd be it was very dramatic, very chaotic, very wet,
but kiwi. Matt Paine has taken out Bathurst. He started
the race eighteenth and gotten the lead with five lamps
to go. Here's the winning moment for you from the
weekend and.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
The victory five.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
I believe him.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I come.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Wow, Yes, certainly was someone crashed and basically he got
ahead and on time too. He was loving it.

Speaker 8 (05:51):
It's pretty amazing, you know, when when we woke up
this morning starting eighteenth. I definitely knew it made our
race card better, and we also didn't know that it
was probably going to be the majority in the wet
so it was going to be a tough afternoon. But yeah,
State call, it's it's just I'm so happy to win
this race. Is a ki it's pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Congratulations, very cool, and he is the sixth key we
to do that. Scott McLachlin, Van Gisberg and Murphy and
the two Richard's Jim and Steven Bryan bred Government's cut
methane reduction targets. They say it's science based. The range
is now fourteen to twenty four percent below twenty seventeen
levels by twenty fifty. A lot of numbers in there.

(06:33):
Fourteen to twenty four is the one you need to remember.
It was twenty four to forty seven percent reduction, so
the upper ends basically have Kate Ackland, is chair at
Beefer Named New Zealand, joins me. Now morning, Kate, Morning,
Ryan's good to have you on the show.

Speaker 9 (06:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
The government, yessay said we would have had farms shutting down,
farmers going out of business if we had kept the
old targets. Is that overblowing it or is that true
in how many No.

Speaker 10 (06:59):
Look, that's absolut don't be true. So, you know, modeling
suggested under what was previously proposed, we were looking at
about twenty percent of our sheep and beef farms and
I think about six or seven percent of our dairy
farms would need to shut down to meet those targets,
and even then it would be a stretch. So, look,
this is great news for farming, it's great news for

(07:19):
New Zealand. Actually, you know, these are science based targets
on the impact of warming. It's agriculture doing its peace,
but it's still maintaining what's a really important industry for
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
What's the bigger impact here the fact that there's no
ets or that there is a reduction in the target.

Speaker 10 (07:39):
Oh, look, I think both. I mean the threat of
a tax on emissions or you know, a tax on
a missions from food production is something that's been hanging
over farmers for a number of years and it's been
sucking a lot of confidence out of the rural sector.
So I think giving farmers sort of confidence and that
you know, they're not going to face that price, that
they can invest in their businesses and grow their businesses

(08:00):
and you know, improve things and spend money in their
local communities. That's a really positive thing. The reduction and targets,
of course, you know that's something we've been calling for
for a long time, so that's also really positive.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Okay, does it risk this is what labors come out
and said overnight. Does it risk our UK EU markets?
You know they have strong climate pledges in them. Do
you worry as farmers that you will actually, you know,
cut your nose off to spite your face.

Speaker 10 (08:30):
No, look, absolutely not. We still have our international commitments.
What we do in New Zealand is a different thing. Actually,
what the targets the government's put in place are in
line with what most of the rest of the world
is doing. So almost every other country in the world
is not looking to tax or penalize farmers. That's actually

(08:51):
looking to incentivize farmers. It's got targets that you know,
a lot of the rest of the world has targets
that are in line with what New Zealand's proposed. So
what this, you know, what yesterday's announcement has done is
it's actually bought New Zealand in line with most of
the rest of the world.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Do most farmers back the Paris Agreement or do they
want out?

Speaker 8 (09:11):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (09:11):
Look, there's quite a mixed feel out there. And you know, ultimately,
we are a trading nation and most farmers realize that
our trading relationships are critical.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
What's the deal with Fonterras having the Fonterra but also
you know silver fern farms. They all have their own targets,
their own goals. From what I could see, Fonterra's was
actually far more ambitious than this one. How does that
change now that the government's target changes? Do you think
these big companies change their targets too, and then that

(09:42):
has an effect on farmers or.

Speaker 10 (09:44):
What Look, what these commercial companies do is entirely up
to them, and you know, there's nothing to stop them
having targets. If I've got customers or markets that have
higher ambition and they want to reward farmers to meet
those and that's a great thing, and that can be
quite separate from what is a legislative target. So you know,

(10:04):
both can happen. And I think what we may start
to see as we may start to see these companies
rewarding farmers if they have specific customers that are wanting
those really a lower mission product.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Appreciate your time. Kate Ackland, chair of Beef and Lamb,
New Zealand. Time is eighteen minutes after five. You're on
News Talks. B will get to Andrew with Sport next, the.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
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Speaker 2 (10:36):
News Talks that'd be five twenty on News Talks there'd
be hey, Ryan ed the way go v drugs you're
talking about don't need public funding. With the high price
of food, they won't. No one will be able to
afford to eat these things soon. Well McDonald's, all of
those things are still very expensive and people are still
buying them. By the way, overnight they published the Global
Burden of Disease study. Don't worry, it's good news. It's

(10:58):
good news for us at least, and this is published
in the Lancet overnight. So from in terms of age,
the average age we will live to, it's currently seventy
six point three. This is globally seventy six point three
years for women and seventy one for men. That is
twenty years higher than in nineteen fifty. So for all

(11:21):
of the things we complain about in the world, and
you know it's goin of hell and a hand basket,
we're living much longer. Healthcare is better, poverty has reduced,
you know, commerce is working. In New Zealand, we actually
top the scales. So men will live to an average
age of about eighty and women to an average age
of about eighty three. Now here's the kicker, and this

(11:43):
is why we're talking about wagovi and stuff. Half of
the deaths in the world right now are completely preventable smoking,
obesity and air pollution. Two Andrew Llison's here was sport,
Good morning, willing.

Speaker 11 (11:58):
Rit make me feel more alive after That's that great
news invigorated. Yes, yes, sports spring on the step.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Sport will solve half of these problems.

Speaker 11 (12:08):
Well, well, if you're Matt Pain, that's that's a terrific
victory at Batheast for him king of the mountain, and
he's pulled somewhat unkindly. I think on I think a
head on Channel seven described as the Stephen Bradbury effort
in relation to the speed skater who I think one
one in the Winter Games when all the others fell

(12:28):
off the track, but he snecked through and he's done it.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
They've come from eighteen and they've won the race. A
few crashes wet, Yeah, I.

Speaker 11 (12:38):
Mean, did you see they're back into that?

Speaker 12 (12:40):
You not?

Speaker 11 (12:41):
But means zero visibility really minimal, and I mean at
those sort of speeds, that's that's a tremendous effort, just
just about to hold on in those circumstances. And you
see these guys crashing off every now and again. Highlight
for me probably chairs most it going off and going
over the fence and cracking open a beer with some
of the locals. It's mostered for PM. Now apparently that

(13:04):
gets you right up there, sort of Bob Hawks standards.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Very cool. Anyway, have you got the NBC semi finals set? Now?
We have?

Speaker 11 (13:11):
We have so Canabry up against Hawk's Bay it Tago
against Bay, have plenty, but what circumstances to finish it
in for Canterbury, I mean level with Candies Monacaw of course,
who lost their first five games, won their last five
up against Canterbury in the quarter final and yeah, fifteen
all after four times I went to one hundred minutes
with the extra time in Canterbury pulling it off Shaffie
Hackey with a try in a penalty.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
He featured pretty heavily as well.

Speaker 11 (13:34):
Towards the end they are attempting I think forty k
wins behind him a seventy two penalty which would have
been one tremendous effort but didn't quite go the distance.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
But they won anyway. They won anyway, and the Women's
Cricket World Cup. You've got an updoat for us.

Speaker 11 (13:49):
I have, yes, dramatic. We've just seen the dismissal of
Elisa Healy catch a cover point by Sneer Rada, so
that's been pretty crucial. She's out for one hundred and
forty two. They're chasing three thirty one Australia. Just recently
I was looking at it. They were what twos sixty
five four of the thirty night that's probably chased a
little bit now, but they're tracking along towards that target.

(14:12):
But still it's it's quite a game, making quite a
game of it.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Certainly sounds like it appreciate that. Thank you, Andrew Ortison
was public for us this morning. It is twenty four
minutes after five News Talks. They'd be on your Monday morning.
We'll talk to the New Zealand Initiative just before six
about the low vote turnout seventy percent of us this week.
Now it can't be bothered. Why did we do that?
That is a very important question. One will try and
answer it well next and actually before six twenty four,

(14:35):
after five.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
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News Talks.

Speaker 10 (14:40):
They'd be.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Five twenty six news Talks. They'd be. If the Coalition
was looking for an endorsement of its rates cap idea,
then they got it. At the weekend of the eighteen
councils that whacked rate players will double digit hikes this year.
Thirteen elected new mayors, thirteen of the eighteen High ten
council mayors. Gone Newsroom has great coverage of the results

(15:04):
over the weekend. I don't know if you saw that,
but Mackindo one Hamilton, if the name sounds familiar to you,
he's a former National MP. Rates rowse there forty one
percent in three years, So go figure. Voters aren't stupid
and they should never be taken for granted. Rates hikes
are driving domestic inflation. We know this not only do
you pay more to your council, you also pay more

(15:28):
in interest rates because it helps keep them higher. It's
a double burn in the back pocket and voters know this.
Ratepayers know this, and next to your taxpayers will remember it.
Our most important city councils in Auckland, christ Church and
Hamilton sorry Wellington, are now led by right of center meyors.
The results speak for themselves, but their problem of courses

(15:48):
that these results are a very small sample size. Seventy
percent of us roughly didn't bother voting, and you can
ask ten pundits why and you will get ten different answers.
But I think the problem is pretty simple. The size
and scope of local government is completely out of control
in a small Pacific island nation at the bottom of

(16:09):
the world. We just elected fifteen hundred people to sit
around on seventy eight different councils. Mayors are one vote
at the table, so they aren't really that special. Low
turnout is not a rejection of the candidates. I don't
think it's a rejection of the whole system. It's too big,

(16:30):
there's too much compromise. It's all who know dew we
If the coalition listens to the thirty percent who did
vote and caps rates, which they are going to do.
They ought to listen to the overwhelming silent majority who didn't,
and that means throwing entire councils I think in the bin.
Chuck them in the rubbish. Have the number of councilors

(16:52):
that remain and give the mayor a veto power vote
so there's actually accountability and there's a vision and something
worth voting. Four the lowest voter turnout in thirty six
years is a mandate for change and change looks like
a giant local government bonfire. Bryan Bridge, twenty nine after five.
If you didn't vote at the weekend, I'd love to

(17:13):
know why. Nine two ninety two is the number we'll
get to Gavin Gray in the UK after News News
Talk SEBB.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
The first word on the news of the day early
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Speaker 2 (17:53):
Twenty four away from six Here on News Talks SB,
we'll look at voter turnout with the New Zealand initiative.
Before six o'clock we're in the UK with Gavin Gray
as old Ryan's hiss, Judy, I didn't vote because I
couldn't find a candidate I liked another one, says I
queued for twenty minutes that the library couldn't have bothered.
We left. Halle Lujas, says Scott. Finally someone agrees with me.

(18:13):
Get rid of the useless money wasting councils. Our entire
economy is the size of Victoria and Australia for goodness sakes,
and we waste millions on this. By the way, Scott
didn't vote because he was out of the country, didn't
get his papers in time. I think I think most
people wouldn't have voted. And this is just my theory,
but most people wouldn't have voted because it's too there's
too many of them. Who are they? Who has a

(18:36):
Nobody got the time to figure out who? You know,
Carol Wilson is from jim Burger's and there's like twenty
of them on your local council. And then there's a
mayor who only gets one vote. Anyway, I mean, what's
the point in that. The whole thing's stupid? I just
think just just rip up and start again. Literally, and
seventy percent of New Zealanders wouldn't even notice, wouldn't even care.

(18:58):
Twenty three to six Graham bread Jar reporters around the
country for the results. For those who did vote, Callum
Proctor and Dneedan Calum good morning, your morning. Right, So
Jules Radick's gone? Who's Sophie Barker.

Speaker 13 (19:10):
Sophie Barker is well, the previous deputy and now the
mayor elect of duned And confirmation late last night actually
of Dunedin's preliminary results, they confirm that Sophie Barker is
now our new mayor elect, with an updated margin of
more than seven hundred votes over second placed Andrew Simms. Here,
the incumbent Jules Raddock came in third in the end.

(19:31):
He'll remain on council, though he says he's celebrating his
wins as mayor, including shifting the council's focus to infrastructure
and doubling spending on water. Elsewhere in the South Go
Mayor Ben Bal's been re elected after a tumultuous three years,
and John Glover has unseated Glenn Lewis. In Queenstown, Tom
Campbell's replaced outgoing Nobby Clarke and Inficargo all.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right, how's your wedding? Showers today?

Speaker 13 (19:56):
Possibly heavy in thundery this afternoon Easterly wins the High twelve.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
She's Callum clear and christ this morning Claire, Good morning.
Major back in charge. Hasn't quite got the council he
wanted those. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 14 (20:07):
Phil Major has been re elected mayor with a decisive
victory in the end over outgoing councilor Sarah Templeton. But
the trouble is fulfilled Major. He'll once again leave a
left leaning council. This was tipped to be a very
tight race, but in the end Major walked away with
twenty thousand more votes. News Talks he'd be was with
Major in his living room after the results came through.
He told us he would have liked counsel to look

(20:29):
a bit different Cie, perhaps a little less left leaning,
but it has worked for the past three years and
he'll make it work again. Meanwhile, Counselor Lydia Glidden swept
a power in Selwyn, unseating Sam Broughton in a landside
victory Dan Gordon. He's been re elected in wy Marcaretti,
while eighty two year old transgender woman Jackie Grant's been

(20:50):
leading in Westland. She's on track to unseat Helen lash On.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Very good. How's your weather?

Speaker 14 (20:56):
Some cloudy periods, a bit of scattered rain around midday
nor the least turning east and we should make twenty
degrees sheche is.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Clear, sounds BARMI have a nice day mix in Wellington.
Morning mes, good morning. Now what's the bigger story? Is
that Tory or is it Andrew?

Speaker 15 (21:10):
Good question? You know, it could have been an interesting
race had Torri Fano stayed in. Perhaps Ray Chung may
have had a better shot. Perhaps that could have been
said before his old gossiping ways came back to haunt him.
I think Andrew dil would have still run, and once
he announced he was running, I think it was effectively over.
You talk about the rest of the country, but Wellington
has shown itself to be a liberal town still Andrew

(21:30):
little coasting home to the meryalty some success, I think
in coming runner up for a local businessman, Kyle Tiefenbaker.
But the two big stories I think are the left
majority actually increasing at council level, a lot of Labour
now around that table, Tory Fanner, of course not being
able to win a seat at all defeated by Matthew
at Aweti in the Marii Ward, the final hammer coming

(21:50):
down on her Merylty finding it guilty of incompetence. Big
local named Ken Laban winning a Lower Hut That wasn't surprising,
But what was as well was Perry z. I'm told
it's pronounced za, but I don't believe it looking at it.
Beating the batter than Wayne Guppy was quite intriguing. She's
Upperhat's first new mayor in twenty four years, campaigning on

(22:11):
revitalizing the central city. What city there is? This central street?
The central street, she says, is daying. People are going
to Lower Hut to shop. She's an urban planner and
transport advisors, so quite intriguing to see her beat Wayne
Guppy there.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Sadly is jeez, you pecked a lot in New Max.
How's your weather?

Speaker 15 (22:28):
Cloudy, rainey, strong winds sixteen nice Jron, thank you, enjoy
and Michael sergles with us in Auckland morning.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Michael, good morning. Now you've been right across this all weekend,
and Wayne Brown is back. Lots of new councilors in
Auckland too.

Speaker 12 (22:41):
Yes, four councilors have retired and been replaced, and one
of Wayne Brown's sort of endorsed candidates has replaced one
of his opponents, so a quarter of the council will
be new. Wayne Brown says he's ready to get a
new team together. Elsewhere, former National Minister to Macando will
be the new mayor of Hamilton and a blast from
the part Nandal Tanjos remember him. Yeah, he's on track

(23:02):
to be the new mayor of Fokatane.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
He's still got the same dreads. I think it's just
sitting in a selectivity room. And this is when I
was like very young and needs to go and watch
parliament because I was a geek. And he was sitting
there in a chair and he leaned back and his
entire dread which he had up in like a bee
hive thing, fell off his head onto the floor and
he dragging it around the room, even puts it up,

(23:26):
pops it back on. Anyway, Now he's a mayor.

Speaker 12 (23:29):
And he's actually campaigned for higher rates rises, so he's
probably the only one of the country doing that.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (23:34):
In terms of national trends, initial numbers show turn out
hovering around that thirty three percent mark, but there are
lots of late and special votes that will push that
number up. Lots of really really close races. This selection
in the far North, the top three candidates, there's just
thirty one votes between those top three candidates, so it
could go either way or any of those three ways
in that particular race. Miyas who over saw large rate

(23:56):
rises either opting to stand aside or being unseated. And
lots of cases. More than half of me is who
are now in charge of councils weren't in charge during
the COVID pandemic went in charge more than three years ago.
Only a handful of now been in the job more
than six years. Okay, interesting, how's our weather shower is
turning to rain this evening? Northwesterly's twenty two degrees?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Michael, thank you. It is eighteen minutes away from six
year on News Talk ZB. We'll get to it. I
want to hear what then. I'm genuinely interested in what
the New Zealand Initiative has to say about voter turnout.
They have a couple of ideas which I don't necessarily
agree with, about how you fix that, whether you should
fix it. We'll get to Gavin Gray in the UK
Next News Talk CREB it is caught it to six
the road cone tip line that everyone was so hot

(24:38):
for when it came out. Guess how many cones they've
managed to remove? Two hundred two hundred cones. The tip
line was launched in June and the government now says
it may need to adapt its strategy for the war
on road cones. In Huanganui apparently they actually had more cones.
The tip line led to more cones being put out

(24:59):
than taken away, which is not a great result. Is
that if you're trying to get rid of some and
Wellington one hundred and ten complaints made through the tip line?
How many cones? Drum roll? Please did they move or remove?
And Wellington too two cones? So that tells you one
of two things. Either the tip line was a dumb
idea or the rules are so overbearing that even if

(25:21):
you want to get rid of the road cones, you
can't because of the rules.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's fourteen to six International correspondence with ins An Eye
Insurance Peace of Mind for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Business dama's off to a past summit in Egypt. Devin
Gray's our UK europ correspondent Gavin good morning.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
Either are indeed he is, And the question is though
why I mean we It didn't appear to have had
a great deal to do with the settlement that was
Donald Trump. So many of his critics are saying he's
only going to sort of bask in the limelight that's
reflected off this piece deal from Donald Trump. He's also
likely to pay particular tribute we're being told in Charmel

(25:59):
shape two Trump, which of course many will criticize him
of toadying up to the American president. And of course
all this set to happen, but only if Hamas actually
releases all the Israeli hostages believe to be twenty or
so who are still alive, that deadline coming up being
or fifteen hours or so, and we're still waiting to see,

(26:20):
of course, if that will happen. But Sakir Starmer is
basically going to say thank you to Donald Trump and
said now we need swift progress towards phase two of
the truce. UK will not be supplying any troops on
the ground. However, and when asked what the UK is
doing and why Sakiir Starmer needs to go, one of
his ministers said, ah, well, we're helping organize private equity

(26:44):
to invest in the area. Afterwards, might not need to
go there for that particular achievement.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
There also might be just a little way away getting
putting the cast horse before the count. Whatever the saying is,
Hey tell me what if you're going to travel to
the EU, You're gonna have to do fingerprinting, You're going
to have to do facial recognition.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
Yes, so things changing from today, although there will be
a transition period, and that is because this system has
been beset with technological delays over the last few months.
And what will now happen is instead of a stamp
in your passport, these things will be replaced by biometric checks,

(27:27):
so fingerprints and the scan of somebody's face in order
to cross the EU border. Anyone who says no, I'm
not doing that will be refused entry. And the UK
incidentally now has to do this because we're not part
of the EU. It was due to come into a
fac almost a year ago, but as I mentioned, lots
of technological delays involved in this, and the EU is

(27:50):
saying that they will keep the data for three years,
so once you've had your biometric scan done, it should
be much quicker to get back in because you just
need to verify that person's biomes rather than take them
for the first time. Now, the question is have we
heard of any delays at the moment, and the answer
is no, not at the moment. But as I said,
this is only being sort of given a trial run

(28:11):
over the next few months. That are big concerns Ryan
that here UK and elsewhere trying to get into the
EU will lead to massive cues at the airport check
in places and at the passport control places. But so
far today it seems to be going okay.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
All right, Kevin Gray, are UK you correspondent. It is
eleven to six, Ryan Bridge, So most of us didn't vote.
Seventy percent of us roughly didn't by the voting in
the local elections, it could be the worst turnout in
thirty six years, worse than Auckland. Initial figures showing just
over twenty three percent voted. Nick Clark is senior fellow
at the New Zealand Initiative with me this morning, Nick,
Good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Now you're going to tell

(28:48):
me that we need to make voting easier and we
need better candidates and that will get us out voting.
Do you think that's enough? Do you think we need
to do more like reform councils altogether.

Speaker 16 (29:00):
I think my view on that is that if you
look at the turnout sets around the country, probably the
places that have the higher voter turnout tend to be
the smaller councils. Whereas in the sort of the received
wisdom and New Zealanders that we need bigger is better
and we need to consolidate, and we need to do this,
that and the other. But actually it might be in

(29:22):
a bit of an out. Their solution might be to
make councils more local rather than less local. And in
countries like Switzerland and the like, they have thousands of
the units of local government seems to work a lot
better than ours.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Do they have the council laws in those countries? Do
they have the same power as ours? The meyor no
veto vote? You know, we have a council mayor system
rather than a mayor council system.

Speaker 16 (29:47):
Yep, Yes, well, a lot of those, A lot of
the international experiences that strong mayors also with relatively stronger
counselors as well, who could hold their council to scrutiny,
to account better. I certainly seem to have better performance
and are able to get things done a lot, a
lot better. There's also more competitive system where councilors actually

(30:10):
compete with themselves to attract businesses and jobs and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
When you say that we need to attract better candidates,
does that mean paying them more?

Speaker 16 (30:19):
Not necessarily, I mean no, I wouldn't say so. I mean,
certainly they don't get paid a lot at the moment.
But I would say the better way to get better
candidates would be to actually give counselors and mayors in particular,
the ability to actually make things happen and work to
their mandates and to their promises they've made. They're not

(30:42):
stifled or muzzled. They actually have the ability to get
better information out of their councils, which can be incredibly
difficult at times. They need to be able to, you know,
just just basically tilt that playing field back and say
with the elected representatives compared to the council bureaucracy which
tend to lead them somewhat.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Appreciate your times wanting, Nick Clark. With the New Zealand initiative,
it is six to eight, sorry, six to six you're
on News Talk.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
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Speaker 2 (31:22):
D B six on News Talks, HEB, have you've flown quantuslately? Congratulations?
Your private details are now probably on the dark web.
Six million customers. This is an old story. It came
about in July. There was a cyber attack on It
was not Quantus, but it was a platform that they use.
Cyber attack. There six million customers, your names, email addresses,

(31:43):
phone numbers dated birth, your frequent flyer number that gets stolen.
And then at the weekend it was revealed that it's
now for sale, that they just published it on the
dark web. So that's great. There was a guy doing
an interview on ABC Radio at the week and he
gave his friend the last two digits of his frequent
flying number. He went online, searched it, found his personal

(32:06):
details and email address within a matter of minutes. So
that's great, isn't it. I just think we need to
stop companies from being able to ask us for our
private details. Five to six play Mike's in the Studio,
Good Morning, Mike I was involved or.

Speaker 17 (32:21):
We were involved, funnily enough, in a class action suit
with Nieman Marcus. And we'd shopped at Neeman Marcus on
last Sienegar, which is just off Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.
As you do, as you do, and so apparently that
had a bit of a hack and the numbers were
out there and they said, you know, we won, and

(32:41):
you can fill out some paperwork and come on and
collect some dough How much we didn't even bother finding
out wasn't it wouldn't be much of his thousands of people.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Beverly Hills, where all the celebrities live, you would think
privacy would be of utmost importance that type of client town.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
It's not the sort of neighborhood it used to be.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Right, But to you, does it annoy you that you
your barber? My barber needs my phone number and address?
I mean, what what for?

Speaker 8 (33:06):
You know?

Speaker 9 (33:07):
You're good question? Because I've seen you here. I don't
know what's he doing with it. I mean, this is
a complaint line at I've got.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
That's the thing I worry about.

Speaker 17 (33:16):
No, but you know what I mean, I could to
be Frank, I could I couldn't care less, you know
what I mean. I just like, if it's out there,
how do you even get to the dark web? Dot
dot dot dark web? Dot z criminals is a dot com.
So you wouldn't you genuinely wouldn't care.

Speaker 9 (33:30):
If you out there now.

Speaker 17 (33:31):
I mean, I don't know, I wouldn't never clear you
think about all the times you use your credit cards
and you put your credit cards, all the stuff you
buy online or on the phone, the people on the
phone you go and your number is, and what's your
special number on the back, and when's your expiring?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Not meant to do that on the phone. I've done that.
That it most you're not supposed to do.

Speaker 9 (33:47):
It's too late, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
So you just don't care.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
Couldn't care less.

Speaker 17 (33:51):
I couldn't care about the local body elections, couldn't care
my numbers on.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
The dark the former I understand that's true anyway.

Speaker 9 (33:58):
Christopher Lexan with us after Sait.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
All right, have a great Monday, everyone, see you tomorrow.
You seet my heart from the feet of oh

Speaker 1 (34:11):
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