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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
early edition with Expole insulation, keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and
try this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
They'd be welcome morning to you and welcome to the
working week. Coming up at the next hour. An open
letter to reform our energy set down. But we all
know the problems. What should we do? We've got one
of the authors of the letter in about ten minutes time.
Andrew Ordison joins us on sport as the Wimbledham finalism
right now it's one set all is the Auklands CBD

(00:32):
worth visiting on a weekend? I'll tell you and act
suggests a new plan to attract twenty one thousand international
students to the country. How would it work and would
it work? We'll have that just before six. You could
have your say anytime you like. Ninety two ninety two
as the text number of small charge applies. You can
email Dickens at Newstalk st B dot co dot NZ.

(00:52):
We'll have reporters from around the world and around New
Zealand and news as it breaks. This is early edition
and it's now seven minutes after five.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
The agenda.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's Monday, the fourteenth of July, It's best deal day
for France. First though to the Middle East, and ten people,
including six children, have been killed in an Israeli airstrike
while waiting to fill water containers in central Gaza. The
Israeli military say there was a technical error with a
strike targeting an Islamic jihad terrorist that caused the munition

(01:24):
to fall dozens of meters from the target.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
The eyewitnesses there say that Israeli soldiers had fired on
the crowd. Now, the Israeli militaries say that they do
not fire at people deliberately, and the organization which is
US and Israeli back that now has taken over the
distribution of aid from the United Nations in Gaza has

(01:48):
actually accused the Yuan of using misleading information.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
So to the trade wars, and countries are rushing to
get trade deals done with the States before the August
first deadline. The EU and Mexico say they're disappointed with
Trump's threat to impose thirty percent tariffs on their imports.
We are not there yet.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
This is very important.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
This is now the time for negotiations, but this also
shows we are prepared for all eventual scenarios.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's ursula from Europe. Trump is warning that he will
impose even higher import texes as if either of the
countries decided to retaliate. And over the weekend we got
the preliminary report findings into the Air India plane crash
which killed two hundred and sixty people. Turns out both
fuel control switches on the plane were cut off sickens

(02:41):
after take off they ran out of gas, but we
don't know how or why they were moved.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
At this stage, the Indian authorities have said that there
isn't cause for concern in relation to the aircraft or
the engines, and I think that will be reassuring to
people who are flying.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
And the It's now nine minutes after five.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
Dickins and Expole Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry
this winter news Talks at.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Be Well last week saw the debate over the Regulatory
Standards Bill continue. They had submissions being heard. The bill
requires that new and existing legislation be assessed for consistency
with the principles of responsible regulation. It establishes a Regulatory
Standards Board to independently consider the consistency of legislation with

(03:34):
those principles. It outlines what those principles are, even though
there's already guidelines for making law available to every politician
drafting a law and a committee to oversee it that
called the Legislation Design and Advisory Committee. Now they've already
had a look at Seymour's bill and they say, well,
we've got misgivings about the capacity of this bill to
offer improvement and it might have significant unintended consequences. Anyway,

(03:57):
this bill will set up a Ministry of Regulation to
act as a central agency to improve the quality of
our laws and our regulations. And of course Mary don't
like it because there are no treaty causes in it,
and they think that treaty causes in other bills or
moves that are advantageous to Mali could be criticized by
this board. So they hate it, and in fact all

(04:18):
the left hate it. They're calling it a neoliberal takeover bid.
The right love it because they could get a ministry
in a board that could rip left policy to bits.
But you know what, I'm not sure I like it
because of this board, who are non elected appointed by
a government and who then could be part of electioneering
and criticism of ideas presented by parties. It feels a

(04:39):
little bit undemocratic, and it's an extraordinary amount of power
to be given to a board, isn't it. We all
want responsibly written legislation which doesn't include pie in the
sky imaginative costings, but having this super board and ministry
rolling around becoming part of the debate seems like giving
even more power to the bureaucrats. And in fact, I'm

(05:02):
surprised it's Ax's idea, what z B. So if you
opened up the paper this weekend, you would have seen
a letter from a whole lot of people asking for
immediate reform to our energy sector. They believe the energy
sect does not working. I agree, we're all good at
identifying problems. What we're not good at is coming up

(05:25):
with answers. So anyway, John Duffy from Consumer is one
of the signatories to this open letter, and so we're
going to be talking to him next here on News Talks.
Here B this his early edition.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
News and Views you Trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Andrew Dickins at ex Pole Insulation, keeping
Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This winter News Talk sat B.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It is thirteen minutes out of five, two all. In
the third set, it's one set all. This is our
chorab versus Sinnami. More on this with Andrew Ordison in
a few moments. So I'm actually speaking about sport. I
watched that combined Australian New Zealand team paying the Lions.
They got wallopped, and it's not really surprising. They went
together for very long seven days and a lot of
them had never played together anyway. During the commentary, they

(06:08):
kept on calling them the aun Z's, the au n Z's,
and I thought, why aren't they calling them the ANZACs?
Is there a problem with calling them an ANZACs? What
would you call this team? Because I think this team
is going to be a thing going forward. I'll talk
more about this with Andrew in a few moments time.
You can text me ninety two ninety two small charge applies.
What would you call this au n Z team? Now?

(06:30):
Over the weekend, a group of well known organizations published
an open letter to the Prime Minister calling for the
immediate reform to our energy sector. They believe the current
system holds back productivity and isn't in the best interest
of New Zealanders and that's true, and some of the
signatories include the EMA, two degrees and Consumer New Zealand.
So from Consumer we've got their chief executive, John Duffy,

(06:53):
who's woken up early for us. Good morning to you, John,
Good morning. How's it going good? Why an open letter?

Speaker 7 (07:01):
Well, we think the time is right. I mean there's
a lot of pressure coming from a lot of sectors
and we really wanted to demonstrate that quite a disparate
group of organizations with lots of different purposes can actually
get together and be quite aligned on an issue as

(07:21):
important as this. And we've got a number of things
that are happening in the sector, and one of the
key ones is that there's a brand new review of
how the sector's performing sitting on the Minister's desk. The
Cabinet and the Minister are considering their options right now,
and we really wanted to send a message to say, hey,
you've got this huge group of organizations here that's really

(07:44):
worried about the direction we're heading in. It's time to
make some good decisions that help both industry and consumers.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, is Simon Watt's doing a good enough job, as
you say, he's got this report on his desk. Is
into regulatory settings. It's not about dam's or dio thermalo
you think. And he's says the government will make an
announcement in due course. Is he sitting on his hands?

Speaker 7 (08:06):
No, I don't think so. These are big, big decisions, right,
So we've tried to kind of convey the importance of
it in the letter. This is one of the key
inputs into our economy. If we can't fuel our industry
and we can't support the well being of our people
with affordable electricity, we're in real trouble as a nation.

(08:32):
So we don't necessarily want the minister to rush into
a knee jerk reaction. We need decisions to be well
thought through and measured. But I guess we would like
to see submergency in the decision making, and we anticipate
something coming in the coming months, so that is quick enough.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
So that is to ginger him up. Your letter very
accurately describes the problems. Of course, we're all about the
solutions here, So would you like to help the government
into coming up with a solution for the energy sector.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
Look absolutely, and obviously, given the organization that I represent,
i'd encourage the government to be putting people at the
center of any decision making that it's doing, because at
the moment, consumers aren't really or electricity consumers, the people
of New Zealand, households aren't really that much of a factor.

(09:30):
And how our system operates. We think about sure security
is supply, that's important, keeping the lights on, but really
our focus is Unfortunately, the way the market built is
built is on making returns for shareholders. So, like many
industries across the economy, the way the market is geared,

(09:51):
businesses operate to produce shareholder return, which is really important because,
particularly in a capital intensive industry like electricity generation, you
need money coming in so that you can build things. Absolutely,
but when the return to shareholders is outweighing the service
that's been provided to customers and the return to shareholders

(10:14):
is being prioritized over even investing new generation, we know
we've got a problem.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Good stuff John Duffy. He is the chief executive of
Consumer New Zealand. Other signatories include the Auclord and Business Chamber,
headed by former National Party leader Simon Bridges, the major
electricity user groups and Employers and Manufacturers Association, and Let's
see some answers. But we've been talking about this for
a while. In fact, the text came through immediately that
said Christopher luxA must be sick of all these so

(10:43):
called open letters to him. First Helen Clark and Don
Brash's stupid letter on how to handle China. Now this
lot oh derry me writes the texture. Well, if you
don't ask, nothing happens, I guess. Andrew Dlison on Sport
in a few moments time. It's a beautiful day in London.
Wimbledon is being played and it's very close between alcorav

(11:03):
and Sinner the Italian. So we'll talk about that. We'll
talking about the rugby. What would you call this au
n Z team. It is useful to b. This is
early edition and it's five nineteen.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Andrew dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation, keeping
Kiwi homes warm and try this winter news talk z B.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Andrew Ordison joins me to talk sport and behind him
is the Telly and there is Wimbledon and it's a
beautiful day and it's a close match. Yeah, this is
cracking stuff.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
Is it to finish up and hopefully a better final
than the double bagel effort between innosim Over and in
Fiontic that we saw in the women's final, but this
one pretty tight. So six forward at alcare at the start,
six fod a sinner for the second set and it's
with serving the third Andrew.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Exactly right, stay on the microphone. I know you're turning around,
but to look behind your back to look at it.
I just love watching Wimbledon. At least we got it
up in the Endustry's right, that's right now Rugby the
all backs back to their beguarding best. Yeah, convincing display.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Was that?

Speaker 8 (12:02):
What forty three seventeen over France? Another? I guess well,
inexperienced French side and they'll put together what they would
consider their best outfit on tour for the third Test
in Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Cracker.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
Yeah, and you can never underestimate France still, especially after
what we saw in the first Test. I thought the
All black's a lot more convincing. We're starting with that.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
What would you call that ghost move? Yes, I thought
it was just avazing.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
Yeah, you're right with Roy guard scoring a try, but
a brilliant piece of showmanship from Christian Leo Willie.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Did you catch South Africa? Did you catch South Africa,
this is Italy. In the very first kicker, they kick
it off and they purposely go offside, so they get
a scrum because they knew their scrum was better than theirs,
and so they tried to push them over right from
the stat trick. A whole lot of tricky stuff in Rugbia.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Yeah, but it's quite good to see it, like seeing
a bit of innovation. And I just had a look
at few of those highlights from South Africa, Italy and
the South Africans or the spring box look mighty powerful
right across the park. Uh, I'm not quite sure what
was going on with that line?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Did you see that?

Speaker 8 (13:04):
Speaking minds gamely? The the line out that the string
box tried to they have metalfield. It was just that
was a bit out there, But I'll applaud the innovation
under the least.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
The Lions game against the au in Ze team, why
were they not calling them the ANZACs because you kept
on going a u in Zen and I mean, no,
I'm not I'm not going with that name.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
Is it is that sort of some political that you
want to associated with war or I don't know, I
don't know, but it's beyond that now, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
But yeah, I think it's a great idea. Yeah, absolutely,
even though it was a one sided game.

Speaker 8 (13:36):
And speaking of teams that look convincing Wall, he's going
to have their work cut out. I think it's gonna
set lines out by the boil accounts of what was
seen so far, they look pretty pretty polished under Eddie Ferrell.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Quick word about Sam Ruth, Who's who's the who's the
kid runner? Who's still informed?

Speaker 8 (13:50):
What gaz word about Sam Ruth? This is a babe
Ruth or what do you got to call it? Amazing
just display you know, sixteen years old. Now he's got
another record, the Nest fifteen hundred meter marketing for under
seventeen under eighteen. He's got Sam Ten's under twenty record
already in a society's sixteen years old. I think he's
going to go to the World Champs as well, just
as a as observer if you're like in Tokyo in September.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, I like the way that Sam Tanner is actually
mentoring him, because he must have look at him and go,
here comes this kid to take all my stuff. But
that's okay because you know he's.

Speaker 8 (14:23):
Been magnanimous hasn't he been the whole episode in how
it's all unfolding because he can see someone who really
has the pott to transform a little distinct running even
further than the next generation.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
So good on him.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Good stuff, Andrew Alderson. I thank you. Five to twenty
five the early.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
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Speaker 2 (14:45):
Talks here bs Hereah sent me an email saying, what's
this about a plane crash in England? There is a
plane crash in South End South End Airport. A beachcraft
crashed about four o'clock this morning, soon after taking off
and big duck smoke and it is a very s incident.
Will keep you up to date with details as they
come to hand. So I find it a bit ironic
that the government and the electorate are once again keen

(15:07):
on getting rid of some of the layers of our
council bureaucracy. The irony is this, first we've got New Zealand, first,
Shane Jones publicly questioning the role of regional councils, wondering
whether there's going to be a compelling case for regional
government to continue to exist. Then the Prime Minister Christopher
Leuxan told Mike Hosking that the government was looking at
local government reform, and on Friday, Matthew Houghton wrote a

(15:28):
piece about regional councils, reiterating a question Chris Bishop has
been asking, is there any point in having regional councils.
So it's on the table, And of course the battle
against bureaucracy is alive and well around the world. Duplication
of services and excessive layers of governance means that savings
could be made easily and safely, and it's something we've
already discussed. So look, last term the government reformed district

(15:51):
health boards from twenty boards into a single entity Health
New Zealand or and that was just because that's gone now,
or is going because the new government has taken against it.
They want to return to locally delivered healthcare because they
believe in regional decision making being the best way to go,
So they aren't like that amalgamation. Meanwhile, reform of regional

(16:13):
councils looks awfully like the formation of all consupercity, a
reform that has heaps of the enemies because of its
devolution of power away from communities and as Houton says,
the reason we hate the super city are the cco's
council controlled organizations, which was supposed to replicate the state
owned enterprises. But the problem there is we can't because
there are no shares in CCOs, so they become the

(16:35):
worst of things, a mongol hybrid of council bureaucracies and
private monopolies. Anyway, it looks like we want to amalgamate
public bodies, but in the past, as I've pointed out,
we don't like it. We moan that our voices are
no longer heard and that the bureaucracies have become too
huge and out of control. So let's just centralize it.
So what is it people zibby when it's a town.

(16:59):
Over the course of the weekend went to a birthday
party as well. Town was very good. I have to
say town gets bad press. I'll tell you what was
good about it. In just a few moments time, we're
going to talk to Gavin Gray. Apparently in the UK
they're saying can we please have our rainback? And before
six we're talking to Axe Tertiary Education spokesperson doctor Palm

(17:20):
Jique Palmer, who's got a new plan to double the
amount of international students coming to this country. So what
is that plan and would it work? All that's still
to come on early edition here on news Talk.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Zeb the news you Need this morning and the in
depth analysis earlier this year with Andrew Dickens and x
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(17:53):
News Talk Send.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
Me we can last.

Speaker 10 (18:09):
That's a great song, Lomas, name of the artist, lomase
Oh Olivia Dean oh right, came up on my Spotify
over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Fantastic song. But there we go right. Actually, I had
a big weekend driving around listening to Olivia Dean on
my stereo. I went to Simon Wilson's seventieth birthday party,
the Herald journalist and former editor of Metro. You have
never been in a room so full of old fashioned
lefties and journalists, Hanks. This room was full of people
trying to save the world's problems and reminiscing about great

(18:42):
interviews that they'd done in the past. It was all
good fun. Happy birthday, Simon. I also went to the
Masters of Modern Art exhibition on loan from the Toledo
Art Gallery. It's full of Picasso's and renoirs and Metisa's.
It's fantastic. It is so popular you have to book
in a session. It's well worth it. And I went
on a Saturday, so I wandered through the Aukland CBD,
you know, the hellhole of New Zealand, had a lunch

(19:03):
in a funky bower noodle shop. It was braised beef.
It was delicious, and I have to say town was
actually full of people, all doing a wander around this
new pedestrian city. And despite what you hear, Aucklands CBD
is actually getting better and better. Five midtown buildings have
just been bought by a developer and they plan to
spruce them up. That and the new railway station by

(19:24):
the Civic is the final piece of the puzzle to
fix up Queen Street because midtown is sill, a bit
of a wreck. And then I watched them right Ben.
I watched the all Backs get back to form and
this new temporary team of Ossie's and Kiwi's called au
n Z. I wish they could have a better name.
They got Hammond forty eight bill and that's not surprising.
They're only together for a week and the lions are
starting to harm. But I reckon the team was a

(19:45):
great idea and maybe maybe this au n Z team
should be touring the Northern Hemisphere every four years like
the Lions to the Southern Hemisphere. It'd be as big
as a Lions tour. I'd like to go on it,
travel all around Blightey watching the au n Z. It
could in fact be better than the the than the Lions. Meanwhile,
I've got a text from Dennis about the aun Z.

(20:07):
He says they should have warm up games against Maldi
and PACIFICA and Australian Indigenous teams or Super Rugby sides
during the next Lions tour to New Zealand and twenty
twenty nine so that they get better prepared. It's a
good concept. Well resurrected God thrash because of not enough preparation.
And then on the name, because I said, why can't
we call them ANZACs? They are not soldiers and apparently

(20:30):
you can't call them ANZACs according to Dennis unless the
Return Services Association or the RSL in Australia says it's okay.
So you can't just give away the name ANZAC just
like that. So we have to stick with a u
n Z, which is just a dull name. I'm sure
you've got a better idea Text it to me. Ninety
two ninety two, twenty one to six news talk zid

(20:52):
be around the country. We go Callum Proctor in Otago Halla,
Callum morning. So we had the sad tale of a
young young lad who died hunting on Stuart Island. At
his funeral today.

Speaker 11 (21:03):
Yeah, this is Job Davies Andrew who is from Tapanui.
He died after being shot while hunting two weekends ago
in Stuart Island. His body was found by a search
and rescue team responding to a personal locator beacon and
that incident has been referred to the coroner. Look, Jock
Davis is being remembered as a loved son and little
brother and a mate to many. And he went along

(21:23):
and well publicized battle with leukemia as a youngster. And
during that health battle he and his family became very
much involved with the Child Cancer Foundation, where his death
has been deeply felt. His funeral is this afternoon in Tapanui.
Jock Davies was just twenty.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
One and I thank you. How's the weather for that?

Speaker 9 (21:41):
Look?

Speaker 7 (21:42):
Chance for a.

Speaker 11 (21:42):
Shower about in the south today, clearing to find this
afternoon and Eden's high thirteen.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I thank you very much to Christy as we go, Emily,
and so good morning to you morning. So there's a
new exhibition about cemeteries.

Speaker 12 (21:53):
There is Grave Insights, Plotting Lives and christ Church Cemeteries,
opens at Tudonga Library today. Acting Libraries and Information Rosie
Levi says it will appeal to if anyone who was
meandered through the city's heritage cemeteries and wondered about the
people buried there. A grandmother, a grandson buried side by side,
a soldier buried at sea, and one of the first

(22:14):
bell ringers of Christ Church Cathedral are among the stories
that have been uncovered. It runs until September fourteenth.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I love it. How's the weather.

Speaker 12 (22:23):
Party, Cloudy with a chance of shower before dawn, clearing
to find by the afternoon, strong northeasterly is easing with
a high of sixteen degrees.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Oh, positively tropical and I think you Max told joins
me from Wellington, compording to your Max, good morning. You
guys are a bit grumpy about missing out on Lord.

Speaker 13 (22:39):
Yeah, that's exactly right. Becoming a bit of a theme
in the Capitol. In fact, we had Lewis Capaldi skip
Wellington as well to play Auckland and christ Church Lord,
as you say, now announced she's doing the same. Might
be a few reasons for it, perhaps the sky Stadium
not being as an attractive venue too big. What's most
likely though, is we just don't have that ideal mid
size venue like Spa or Wolfbrook in that ten to

(23:02):
fifteen thousand capacity range, and so fans have been bemoaning
Lord's absence on social media, promoters complaining again of that
lack of an appropriate venue. TSB holds five to six thousand.
For instance, a homegrown festival gone as well, christ Church
opening a new stadium as well may hurt us a
little bit in the long run. That's of course going

(23:24):
to be a world class venue. That may leave us
competing a bit more with Dunedin for say All Blacks
Tests for instance. Thank god we sold out Saturday and
it was a great atmosphere in Wellington over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, I think you needed ten thousand in do all,
but good luck getting the money for that. How's your river?

Speaker 13 (23:41):
It wild drizzley today, occasional showers fourteen the high Central.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
And Neiva Ritchenman who now joins US from Walk Andhell
and Neva. Good morning, and water Care is upgrading the
wastewater network.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
That's right, it's one point four kilometers of Newmarket's wastewater network.
Now this is part of a twelve million dollar annual
renewals program. Now the cruise, I've been investigating the new
Market section since April. The work is expected to be
finished by the end of August. The good news it
can all be done while the pipes remain in service.
And so once this work is finished, there should be

(24:13):
fewer overflows into the environment and it's going to improve
network resilience.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
And I thank your house Awkin's weather.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Well, this fog this morning is going to clear then
scattered showers. Today's high in Auckland sixteen.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yes, this is now seventeen to six. Andrew, New Zealand
and Australia should be one country anyway. That's Steve's thought
on the rugby team. Come on, that would be unfair
in the rugby world. Blair says, please stop banging on
about ANZAC because the AC stands for the Army Corps. Absolutely,
I understand that and as he says, that has nothing
to do with the money making professional rugby team. Thank

(24:45):
you Blair. That's a very good point. So my point
was what's a better name than AU and Z? So
come on, you guys and bright turn on your brains.
It's Monday morning. I've got one text that says oz
Kiwi would be a better name? Would the Australasians be
a better name? What's your call? Au n Z ain't
good enough? It is sixteen to six. We're off to

(25:07):
the UK with Gavin Gray in a few moments time.
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Speaker 2 (26:29):
So at Wimbledon, Sinner has taken out the third set
and he now leads to one over Alcoreth and Gavin
Gray joints us from the UK. You're not at Wimbledon today? Ah?

Speaker 9 (26:38):
No, I couldn't talk to you if I were, could.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I No, you couldn't. That's sweet. So there's a group
called Palestine Action that's been designated a prescribed terrorist group
and they've been protesting about that.

Speaker 9 (26:49):
Yeah, they will start I think to worry about this
in the corridors of Power and the Downing Street because
this weekend more than seventy people have been arrested support
at the Palestine Action, which the government only recently said,
actually we're going to describe this now as a terrorist group,
which means it comes under anti terrorism legislation and it

(27:10):
is an offense to support it or indeed publicize support
for it. As a result, now this weekend we've seen
arrests in London, but also in Manchester and also in Cardiff.
In total seventy people now looking at the pictures and
those who were attending and those who were simply holding
up a placard saying I oppose genocide, I support Palestine Action,

(27:34):
that's all it says. They were mostly sort of elderly,
very peaceful, just holding a placard, not even chanting or
saying very much, and yet they're being arrested. Add the
seventy arrested today onto the forty two arrested last week,
and this could become a real worry for the government
as this demonstration picks up place. This all incidentally happened

(27:57):
when Palestine Action damaged two Royal Air Force aircraft in
our base, Arif base they broke into, causing roughly fifteen
million New Zealand dollars worth of damage. But exactly how
many more people do they want to arrest for holding
up a black up.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Meanwhile Brits are saying can we have our rainbeck please?

Speaker 9 (28:17):
Yeah. I've been another warm day today, So there was
a forecast of thirty four yesterday. I think we got
to about thirty two today. We're down to thirty one.
Tomorrow will be cooler still, but that over thirty Celsius
has meant that we are in a heat wave. And Andrew,
this is our third one of the year and it
is that fact which is more amazing, because of course

(28:39):
we are only still coming up to mid July. We've
got at least the rest of July, August to possibly
the start of September when there could be potentially more
heat waves. But of more concern, it is now said
that seven million people are under a host pipe ban
and potential water restrictions in Yorkshire in the northeast, Kent
in the southeast, and Sussex on the south coast. So

(29:01):
activities like watering gardens, washing cars, filling up paddling pools,
those are all banned you could face a fine. And
also Southeast Water saying drinking water demand has reached record
levels since May. They are desperate for rain, some suggesting
we could see these drought impositions, these host pipe bands
and so forth in place right through until the winter.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Kevin Gray from the UK, I thank you for your time,
and meanwhile, Sinner seems to be taking control by bit.
Remember Alcoreth has won five Grand Slam finals that he's
been in a row, so this might be the turning tide.
It is now five point fifty zid. Well, we've got
a new plan from the government to double the amount
of international students contributing to our economy to seven point

(29:45):
two billion dollars by twenty thirty four. So this plan
includes extending in study work rights to students from November
and could enroll an extra twenty one three hundred students
by twenty twenty seven. Dr Panji Pama is ex Education
spokesperson and joins me this morning, come on into your
palms eat, Good morning Andrew. So how does the plan work?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
So what I would say is that the changes are good,
but universities need to do their part as well. So
marketing campaigns. These are two as are great, but universities
must focus on improving their international rankings because international rankings
are a key factor when students are deciding which university
to go to. So universities must ensure that their packages

(30:30):
are appealing and are internationally relevant. So that means no
compulsory treaty courses, no creep of ticanga into science, because
universities need to be careful that they are not becoming
inward looking. These things might be of interest to some
students in New Zealand, but when international students are coming here,
they are basically wanting to prepare themselves for a global career.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And tell me about this in study work? Right, do
we not offer them the ability to work while they're studying,
to make money to get by?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
So that is, but most of the money does come
from overseas. Any money that is coming from overseas is
great for us. So international students are unit positive, all right.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
So would international students come here with this plan? Because
I have to say, your party is quite often telling
the world that New Zealand's not a great place right
now in it's in poor shape. Why would they want
to come here?

Speaker 4 (31:25):
I don't agree with that description there. Our education system
works really well, but as I have highlighted that universities
need to do their part as well. So we want
to ensure that universities are working hard to ensure that
their international rankings are improving and the packages that they're
offering are internationally relevant.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Very good stuff, doctor Palmzi Palma, who is ex Education spokesperson,
I thank you for your time. It is seven minutes
to six.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
It's the new Stalk b the first word on the
News of the Day early edition with Andrew Dickins and
expole insulation keeping Kighi Holmes warm and dry this winter
US talk said.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Be all right. So I watched this au n Z
team against the Lions over the weekend and I thought,
what a great idea, and we should actually get together
an au n Z team every four years and they
should tour the Northern Hemisphere and be just like the Lions,
but in reverse, and that would be great. But I
also thought the name au n Z sucked big time,
and I said, why don't they call them the ANZACs,
But of course that says Army Corps and then you'd

(32:25):
have to get the approval of the RSA and the
RSL to use it, and they're not soldiers. And I
said to you guys, what's the names that we should
call them, Drew reckons, they should be called the Antipodeans.
A lot of people saying Zilandier because it's the joining continent.
Somebody says, Ozzie tier Row, difficult to say. Gold Blacks
is a good idea, But I think the best one

(32:45):
I've got at the moment would be calling them the diggers.
But they're not soldiers.

Speaker 14 (32:50):
But hang on a tech, why can't they be called
the ANZACs.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Because that stands for Australia and New Zealand Army Corps
And these are rugby players.

Speaker 14 (32:57):
You can't tell me seriously, they have to go to
the RSA.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, yeah, because ANZAC is a holy unsacred name. Oh
that is oh well, yeah, I know, an is easy
suck sometimes.

Speaker 14 (33:10):
You know what that is about, though, Andrew, That is
about us not wanting to offend someone, right, we're terrified.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
With the soldiers, a soldier who gave his life for
our countries.

Speaker 14 (33:17):
Stop worrying about it. It's the obvious name. Just call
them the ANZACs.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
What about the Southern Stars? Oh no, because that is
lime somebody says, did you call them the lu Zayes
the lu z a yes, is what like losers? Ha ha? Yeah, okay,
what you do.

Speaker 14 (33:35):
But we're going to actually speaking of ANZACs. We are
participating New Zealand over in Australia right now in this
joint military exercise with the US and a bunch of
other countries.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
About nineteen of US nineteen soldiers.

Speaker 14 (33:46):
No, sure, No, we're sending seven hundred. Did you even
know we had seven hundred soldiers?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh, we do, but we don't pay them. Seven hundred soldiers,
one vessel and one drone. We're sending them over. We're
going to talk about that. That drone is going to
be really scary. Buy Sorry, we shouldn't be like this.
Thank you to you for your service, Thank you for
your The Prime minister, Oh, the Prime Minister is back.
He's back from Holly Bops. See how Tandy is my
Thanks for producer Kensey. I'm Andrew Dick and see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
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