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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome morning to you and welcome to the week, and
welcome to the program coming up over the next hour.
Everything that we can find and everything that we know
about the Bondai Beach Horror. At the Avatar premiere, James
Cameron says the business model of movies has now broken
and our government needs to intervene. So is he right
that story? In five the Phoenix have a Horror weekend,
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Ryan Fox wins his own event, Alice Robinson's on, Elliot
Smith on Sport and ten King Charles is on the Men.
So where are we with cancer screening and roadside drug
testing starts today? So what can we expect? Well, I
have Gavin Gray out of the UK and correspondence to
Right around New Zealand and news as it breaks and
you can have your say on the text and the
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It's seven up to five. The agenda the fifteenth of December,
starting with the breaking news at a Bondai Beach overnight.
At least twelve people are dead and twenty nine injured,
including two police officers, after a mass shooting at a
hunker event. There were bullets all around me.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
All I can do is screaming, where is my family,
Where's my little girl?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Where's my little girl?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I saw her dancing for a second and.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
She was gone.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Actually had a police officer drag me out.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
He was shot in the in the head.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
One gunman is dead, another is injured and in police custody.
New South Wales Police and Anthony Albanizi have declared a
terrorist attack.
Speaker 7 (01:36):
An attack on Jewish Australians is an attack on every Australian,
and every Australian tonight will be like me, devastated on
this attack on our way of.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Life, or as a former Prime minister might have said,
they are us. An incredible video has been circling the
Internet of a man sneaking up on one of the
gunmen and taking his firearm off.
Speaker 8 (02:00):
It's the most unbelievable scene I've ever seen, a man
walking up to a gunman who had fired on the
community and single handedly disarming him.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Black man is a genuine hero.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He's a local fruit shop owner and of Arabic descent. Meanwhile,
keeping with the guns back in the United States, a
person of interest has been detained after the shooting at
Brown University of the weekend, where two people were killed
and nine injured when gunfire erupted on campus in Rhode Island.
Speaker 9 (02:30):
We have two priorities right now as a community, one
to bring the individual responsible to justice, and two to
pray for the full recovery of those affected. The Brown
community's hard is breaking in Providence as hard as breaking
along with it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And finally, to the movies. And John Sena has taken
his final bow in the WWE. He's a wrestler who
became a movie star. His last match in Washington will
end a twenty four year career and Samentsa's status is
one of wrestling's biggest names.
Speaker 10 (02:58):
Nine Tina has popped out.
Speaker 11 (03:03):
Nineteen thousand fans.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Shut It is now nine minutes after five on.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
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Speaker 2 (03:23):
I have my thoughts on Bondai in fifteen minutes. So
the good news over the weekend was at King Charles
as well and getting better. He broadcasts to the UK
and the world that is cancer that appeared two years
ago is now under control and his treatments are reducing.
His public discussion represented a notable shift in Royal protocol
because normally they don't talk about their health issues that
kept private. He made the broadcast to raise attention about
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cancer screening. The Stand Up to Cancer campaign is on
right now in the UK, and Charles urged millions to
take up available screenings for the disease and said his
good news was down to early diagnosis, successful care and
following doctor's orders. And good on him. I say you
may know that back in twenty nineteen I had a
small dose of the cancer in my prostate, found because
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I started screening my blood through PSA tests in my forties.
Now I have no prostate and no cancer and I
will never have prostate cancer in my life, unlike an
old mate of mine who didn't find it and died
painfully after it spread to his bones and fused his spines. Now,
apparently there are many people in Britain who don't take
advantage of screening programs. Same here I have many friends
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in their sixties who have never tested their prostates, never
had a colonoscopy, never done the Bowl cancer test. That
is free, and unless you have good insurance, you know
it can get pretty expensive. Not that King Charles ever
had to worry about that. So look, here we go
about screening. A month ago, I noticed a lump on
my tongue. I just lost a mate to aesophageal cancer.
After noticing a lump, so I told my doctor. She
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decided to refer me to an oral surgeon to have
a look. So I got myself an appointment. The appointments
in April next year. Apparently there's not enough oral surgeons,
and the surgeon I'm going to is only available one
day a week because she's so busy with existing patients.
And I joked with the receptionist, Oh, it will be
good to know what I'm dying of when I finally
get to see the person who could have diagnose what
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I am dying of. King Charles said it all. Early
screening saves lives, and it also saves money over the
long term. But we underinvest in screening because, as Ruth
Richardson will tell you, we can't spend more money, even
if it makes sense, youth Talk said b twelve after five.
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Wellington was on fire over the weekend with the Australasian
premiere of the new Avatar movie. Everyone was looking fabulous,
the day was fabulous. It was a great day. And
James Cameron was there, of course local resident lives in
the Wira Rapper And unfortunately he came out and said
the entire model of movie making is broken. So what
did he mean by that and what does that mean
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for the industry and what can we do about it?
That story is right here on news Talks AB.
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ITV Yes is fourteen minutes out of five. Wellington was
so very very glamorous over the weekend, recalling the glamort
that we had with the Lord of the Rings premie year,
it was Avatar this time, fire and ash and James
Cameron was there talking to all the journalists and all
the people on the red carpet, and in his conversations
he gave a few warnings about the state of the
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movie business in this world right now and how it
affects New Zealand.
Speaker 12 (06:38):
The theatrical marketplace is reduced by about a third. Big
films like Avatar aren't getting Greenland. I can't even tell
you that there will be another Avatar film. That business
model may have collapsed.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Amazing, eh, he says. New Zealand has big challenges ahead
and the government needs to step in to better compete
with countries like the UK and Australia with more financially
viable rebate schemes. So John mackay is the chair of
Screen Music and Sound Guild and joins me now going
into your John good morning. It was a bit scary that, yes, but.
Speaker 13 (07:09):
I think it's just signaling the big sea change that's
really happened in film financing in the film world over
the last fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Is that because we've all moved to streaming and not
gone to the cinema.
Speaker 13 (07:21):
Yes, Like in twenty ten, the then CEO of Warner
Brothers called Netflix basically the Albanian Army taking on the world.
Of the Albanian Army has taken on the world and won.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, And the news that they were having a crack
at Warner Brothers Discovery is showing that they do have
the strength in the field, didn't they.
Speaker 13 (07:42):
Well, exactly, you know, so yeah, the landscape for I
think what what James Cameron is really saying is that
to get the budgets of the level of an Avatar
is pretty hard without a bigger theatrical market.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So he also made calls that the government should do STUF.
So what should they do.
Speaker 13 (08:03):
Well, basically we have the rebate scheme which was tinkered
with recently, but effectively it was just opening up their
criteria to a lower budget film, So nothing really for
a film of the level of Avatar. And let's not
forget this film, you know, employs over three thousand people.
It's a massive undertaking. So I think he's after a
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rebake hike. Basically, the percentage to go up higher to match,
for example, Australia is that's thirty percent, thirty to forty
percent you can get out of Australia whereas we're twenty five,
you know, for international production.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But there are some people who ideologically oppose this because
they call it corporate welfare.
Speaker 13 (08:45):
Yeah, well we've always had this argument, but it's the
way that film financing and film works, you know, you know,
we can't really change the system. And the other thing
to really understand is that it's on money they spend
to you. We only get the rebate on what has
actually spent in New Zealand. So if they don't come,
you know, we don't pay it the money, you know,
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So in effect, the incentive is a marketing tool.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, but this is this just shifting the you know,
the chairs on the Dick chairs on the Titanic, you know,
is the model? Will the model collapse worldwide? Are we
all going to sit at home and not in the theater.
Speaker 13 (09:26):
Well, there's also signs that the Netflix and the streamers
are actually buying theaters and will actually stream the movies
to theaters. So if you really wanted the great cinema experience,
you know, you have to be in a theater. You
know you're going to get the best picture, best sound,
the communal experience of cinema cannot be you know, beaten
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them in my view.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
John McKay well said, and I thank you very much.
John is the chair of the Screen Music and Sound Guild.
Now just ask yourself, when did you last go to
the movies? What was that? What was that Leonardo DiCaprio
film that just came out done by Paul Anderson. That
looked amazing, got incredible views. I kept meaning to go,
but I never got round to actually leaving the house
to go to it and to pay the money to
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go to a theater because and I know how I
rationalized this in my own head, because I said, well,
it'll turn up streaming eventually. I don't have to see
it now. I'll see it eventually, thinking that that's still
supporting the industry. But is it? It is nineteen minutes
after five. Alice Robinson the skier won a race last
night in sama Ritz and she didn't just win it,
she won it by a lot. This is amazing. As
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the Olympics come around the corner. More on this at
a moment with Elliot Smith.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
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Speaker 4 (10:49):
Elliot Smith, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Look, I know I'm a skier, you are, and I've
been watching Alice Robinson for a long time and all
that sort of thing, but I cannot under state what
she did last night because this is this underdog key.
We have very little funding up against millionaires and millionaire
teams and she's on top of the world and she
won that by an awful lot.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
She did absolutely. I went back and watched the run
when I got in this morning, and she had the
jets on big time through that and the commentators couldn't
believe how quickly she went. She had a bit of
a wake. She one of those ones you post the
quickest time and then you're gonna wait for everyone else
to cycle through, and you've got the Lindsay Vonn's of
the world and a couple of other a few other
great skiers coming through. But her time held up and
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she won by zero point zero eight seconds. In the end,
the French arrival got very very close to taking over.
But as an incredible run from Alice Robinson. You think
about the results that she's had in recent times. We're
on the doorstep of the Milan Courtina Winter Olympics in
a couple of months time. She's finding some pretty good form.
At the time there was their first super g win
overnight as well, discipline that she hasn't always been comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Now you know I'm sorry to Zoe, and I'm sorry
to Nico Portius, and I'm sorry to Luca and all
that sort of thing. That Alice Robinson is our best
because what she's done is incredible and she's only got
and Lindsey Vaughn.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I mean you look at that at the start of
the weekend, ye forty one. Yeah, and she finished fourth
in that race as well.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And hadn't raced for five years. Yeah, it's just amazing,
which shows you you only get better as you get older,
which I could say about the black Caps as well,
because it seems that you have to be thirty to
get into that side.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
That's the age limit or the age the entry fee.
It's like social media in Australia. You've you must be
thirty to have a Black Caps appearance. You look at
Michael Ray and what he was able to do, you know,
Blair Tech and I think is over thirty now as well.
Now they call back in AJS Patel for the Third Test,
which starts on Thursday. That news is coming out in
the last twenty minutes or so. He's in his late thirties.
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So and Tom Blundell, who's come back in for Mitchey
they've decided twenty five year old keeping. Thanks very much.
One test. But Tom Blundle's back from his fitness issues,
so he's back in for the third and final test
of the summer of the series this week and starts
Thursday in Bay Oval. But the Black CAP's very very
good performance. Tidy thought they probably didn't rise to any
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great heights necessarily, you know. Jacob Duffy bold well, and
so did techn them before he got injured, Michael Ray
as well. But they weren't, you know, absolutely tearing the
place apart. But they just performed and very very tidily
got the job done.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Consistent, and they're like rust they just eat you away.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
That's right, And now I can try and wrap the
series and from Thursday.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And poor Yeah, the Phoenix, I mean I watched the
first half and then shift drifted away, came back three one.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
That's kind of what the Phoenix did as well. They
just played the first half, drifted away, and all of
a sudden it was three to one. It was in
the battle of about twelve minutes after halftime. They were
down three nil. After they went into the Shed's Neil
All and there has to be some serious questions now
I think I asked the Joe Carlo with Taliano the
record is very poor, the second to last on the ladder,
or if they don't have the resources of an Auckland
f C. We all know that, but you need to
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get better out of you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And the Jets were last. The Jets were the last
team and they threshed.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
They thrashed them sort of questions might be asked this
week if the next.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You thank you very much. It is now five twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Four the early edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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Speaker 2 (14:08):
Talks b It's five twenty six. If you've just woken up,
Twelve people dead at Bondai Beach after Bondai Now seems
obvious that anti Semitism is out the gate, particularly in
Australia with a large population who hail from the Middle East,
but increasingly so in this country and increasingly so around
the world. And I don't think the genie is going
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to be put back into the bottle anytime soon. The
conflict in Gaza, starting with a Hamas attack on the
music festival in October twenty twenty three, has only intensified
the conflict between faiths, and of course we don't want
a victim blame. But Israel's reaction to the original attack
has not calm the situation, but in fact further radicalize Muslims.
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And I've presented talkback on the Gaza situation over the
past two years. I was always at pains to separate
the Israeli state from the Jewish faith, but that has
been impossible to do for both sides, and not helped
by Netanyahoo, who goes out of his way to make
sure you know the faith is the state and the
state is the faith. Any talk of the Garsen bloodshed
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by Israel is always pulled back and sheeted home to
October seventh, twenty twenty three in the moves by Hamas,
and any talk about the Hamas atrocity is always linked
back to the Israeli countermoves. Any criticism of Israel's actions
is always branded anti Semitism by supporters of Israel. Both
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sides now locked in a deadly dance with no middle
ground of peace, a dance that has been there since
nineteen forty eight, but today is more furious than ever.
Blessed are the peacemakers, they say, but where are they?
One reported blessing is that the Australian hero who disarmed
a Bondai attacker was himself an Arab, a local fruit
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shop owner, hopefully showing that the killers are not indicative
of all Muslims, and hopefully that might ease the wave
of Islamophobia that is almost inevitable. But I don't think so.
Speaker 14 (16:09):
News Talk said.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Be five twenty eight. I'm just looking at Sky News
and the ticker, you know, they had the ticker, the
thing that goes across the screen while they're talking, and
it just went Australia will never be the same again.
I noted that Anthony Albanese's comment seems quite reminiscent of
what de Sindra Dourna after the Mosk attack. They are
us The attack on the Hanneker revelers was an attack
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on all Australian, said the Prime Minister, and it's been
noticed around the world. Gavin Gray from the UK is
about ten minutes away in there. UK police are tightening
security around synagogues who are all of course around the
world celebrating Haneker and this is because of what happened
in Australia. Of course, the UK PM says the attack
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targeting the Jewish community is sickening. We all know it's sickening.
It is sickening. Have more on this as the morning
goes on, including with Heather d Allen. And of course
it's Monday, so the Prime Minister will be on as well.
He's been well briefed and he's been talking to Anthony Albanesi,
so all of that, all of that still to come.
This morning. Someone says said, I can't believe your support
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for Palestine. How did I support Palestine?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We are in two sides and nobody can say anything
without being shut down, so to speak. There was a
terrible choice of words. News and sport is on the way.
They were right around the country. This is news Talk
there B. I'm Andrew Dickens.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
This is Early Edition, the first word on the news
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Speaker 2 (18:08):
Welcome to the Olivia Dean Show to you Early Edition
with Andrew Dickenson. Ryan's doing drive, Heather's coming in with breakfast.
This is Olivia Dean singing. Kenzie and I both adore
Olivia she's so good anyway, She's coming next year in
concert now. Of course. Earlier we reported on what happened
over the weekend in Wellington with the Avatar premier yere
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in the comments of James Cameron, who says the model
for making movies is completely broken. Theater attendances are down
at third Being able to fund big movies like Avatar
has become impossible in James's opinion, and he says the
government should step in with more rebates and stuff.
Speaker 12 (18:47):
You've got to think globally on this because it's that
capital influx that is the tide that raises all ships.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
So we talked to John mackay about this earlier about
increasing rebates, and it's fair to say it's not popular.
And someone said, can I get a rebate for my
business please, which, of course is the thing. That's why
there were critics of the rebac because it say it's
corporate welfare. If the business is dying. The business is dying,
you can't artificially keep it alive. Another textas says James
Cameron is talking through his pocket. There are far too
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many movies made, most of them are dross. Besides, virtually
all industries in this country are down by a third
at least, whether it's movies or whatever, over the last
five years. So yeah, here we go. That debate will
continue with the Heather to Alan Breakfast Show and oh look,
speaking of birthday's, Happy birthday to Dick van Dyke, who
over the weekend turned one hundred, and he said one
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hundred is not enough. I want more. So we've got
the Dick van Dyke Show. Back in the sixties, he
was a Mary Poppins Tu Tity bang Bang. He's won
Emmys and Tony's and Grammys. He can dance, he can sing,
he can act. He's in the Television Hall of Fame.
In nineteen ninety five and at the beginning of the
year there was actually a bookie who was running a
book on which celebrity is most likely to die? And
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number two Phil Collins, who's not well, and at number
one they put Dick van Nike. Well, here we go.
It is the fifteenth of December and Dick's still here.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
News Talk said.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It's twenty one to sex. So when around the country
we go, can'm Proctor joins us from Otago. Hey, come morning, Andrew.
So there's a small town in South and it's got
a tradition, and that tradition is ending after one hundred
and sixteen years, So what's the town, what's the tradition?
Speaker 11 (20:27):
This is the Tuatapari Sports Day, which many North Islanders
may never heard of. But this has been a huge,
annual and very popular family event every New Year's Day,
and this coming one will be the last one ever.
It's gradually shrunk over time andrew losing attractions like Claybird's shooting, cycling,
highland dancing and the pipe band, and also too, which
doesn't help. The Rivetson Racing Club now has races on
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the same day. Organizers of the event of told Local
Democracy Reporting the events largely run by older people and
the younger ones aren't interested in stepping up, so they
say it's just a sign of it times.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What's not to love about caber tossing a how's your weathers.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
Sir, Wet and windy for the south today, rain from
late afternoon for dneed and strong northerlyies changed southerly later
at the heights today twenty three.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Thank you so very much. Claire Sherwood from Canterbury, good
morning to you. Good morning, Canterbury is on fire.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Economically, yes, well, we've long talked about how well things
are going down here with all about infrastructure, but now
it turns out that our economy is matching that and
people are feeling really good about that. Asb's call to
three Economic school Board shows Cantabrian consumers are feeling more
confident than the national average. That's driven by strong population growth,
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robust employment prospects and a heavy dairy presence here. Chief
economist for ASB, Nick Toughly says the regions evidently the
place to be. He says it's not surprising given it's
the second time Canterbury has been first in the leader
board this year and has been in the top three
five times over the past few years. Toughly says the
region looks to remain in a good heart heading into.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
The new year and hous it's weather high.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Cloud increasing today. There is the chance of a shower,
but not until tonight nor the least will be strong
this afternoon. Warman though twenty seven, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So much, clear bring on the rain up and down
the country. Maxt Toll from Wellington, good morning to here.
Good morning, So were you and Courtney place? Were you
in the theater. Did you indulge in the premiere?
Speaker 8 (22:22):
You know.
Speaker 14 (22:24):
It's going to be impossible to say this without sounding
a little big headed. I was invited to a media
exclusive screening on Thursday night and actually got to interview
mister Cameron myself over the weekend. He did say the
same regarding the business model of Hollywood being a little broken.
But at the same time I probably got more of
the sense that he was still committed to Wellington, still
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committed to wetter to making movies in New Zealand, to
making movies full stop. The Capital is where he spends
most of his time now he has a home in Roseneath.
He's raising a family there. He does want the rebate
scheme boosted. He wants better pathways, training, etc. People going
into the creative arts. But while he was a little
down buzz on the future of big blockbusters like Avatar,
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but if it doesn't rake in billions of dollars, which
it is still expected to do, he says there are
other movies he'd like to make. And again he's firmly
committed to New Zealand, to Wellington. He has his citizenship now,
so regardless, I don't think this is him giving up,
but rather sounding the alarm a little Saturday Night itself. Yeah, incredible,
just like the halcyon Days of the Hobbit, Lord of
the Rings. If this does go on to gross over
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two billion dollars like the last couple, it would make
James Cameron, surpassing Steven Spielberg the most successful movie director
of all time.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Max, you're the only man I know who's actually seen
the movie. Is any good?
Speaker 14 (23:39):
If you like the first two, you'll like this one.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
That's a very difperpendent medical answer.
Speaker 14 (23:44):
Once you read the like cloudy period SAMPATCHI drizzle stronger
norther least twenty one high good stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Willy Pittrick joins me right now from Ukland goodcrding Wendy
in that. So we've got jail time for a five
h one deportee.
Speaker 15 (23:55):
Yes, five oh one. De Porty sent us to prison.
The two separate violent attacks on Auckland bus drivers. In
December twenty twenty three, car Leo left a driver in
Ponsonby with a broken tooth and fractionedized socket after forcing
his way onto a bus. Four months later, he carried
out the second attack on the same suburb punching and
kicking a female bus driver. He was arrested again after
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another six months for burglary and obstructing police, before his
final arrest in March for possessing methan fhetamine. The judge
has sentenced him to two years in prison after discounts
for guilty please upbringing and mental health issues.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I hear that Auckland beaches are absolutely packed over the
course of the weekend. So what's the forecast for today?
Speaker 15 (24:35):
I am not surprised because it is warm, isn't it.
We've got another four fine day today. There are going
to be a few cloudier periods around with the chance
of an isolated shower, northeasterlies and heading for a twenty
four degree high.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And I thank you very much as it's now seventeen
to six and not a lot of people supporting James Cameron.
Stew says that James Cameron has to realize we are
a country of five million. We can promote ourselves in
many ways, but our ability to pay people to come
here limited. He is here and didn't come here for
the money or did he ask ste The Bondai attack
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twelve dead, including one which is one of the attackers.
Some outlets will say eleven are dead because they're following
an American tradition of not naming the attacker. It's horrific
and reverberating around the world and the UK security has
now been tightened around synagogues and they'll be tightened around
synagogues worldwide because Hanneker has just started. So we'll talk
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to you about this with Gavin Gray in just a
few moments time. Plus why did someone give a red
post box to King.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Charles International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Drug roadside testing for drugs starts today more than that
in just five minutes time. But first, Kevin Gray from
the UK abudy to you hi there, And so it's
reverberating around the world. The Bondai attack means that tightened
security is occurring in the UK around synagogues.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Indeed, yes, so the police saying that they are putting
on extra security. It is, of course the first day
of Hannaka and there'll be lots and lots of events
taking place over the next few days. The UK's Jewish
Leadership Council has called on the police and government to
protect events celebrating Hannekah beginning around about now and lasting
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for eight days here in the UK. Of course, you'll
remember Andrew. In October, two people were killed in an
attack at a synagogue in Manchester on Jong Kippaul, that's
the holiest day in the Jewish religious calendar. So the
Sydney attack absolutely resonating here. King Charles has said he's
appalled and saddened, and he said to his heart's go
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out to everyone who's been affected so much. The Prime
Minister here has said it was absolutely shocking and scandalous
this particular event. We now know, incidentally, that a London
born rabbi is among those who's been killed in the attack.
He's a forty one year old father of five, described
by his family as vivacious, energetic, full of life and
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very warm and an outgoing cousin his name an outgoing person. Rather,
he was described by that as his cousin and his name,
Rabbi Zaman Lewis said, Rabbi Eli Schlangak will be severely
missed by his family.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So our corresponders of Australia had been warning about the
rising tide of anti Semitism in Australia for quite some time,
but here in New Zealand we haven't felt the same
sort of thing. What's the feeling. What's the level of
anti Semitism in the UK in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Well, we have had these ongoing protests almost every weekend
by a group called Palestine Action. We've been reporting on that.
Of course, they are trying to raise the profile of
what's happening in Gaza. The problem is the government has
prescribed them as a terrorist organization, so everyone who's holding
up a plaquard support in them can be in prison.
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That's led to an even deepening divide. But at the
same time that they are holding protest so too to
some Jewish groups, And sadly, you know that there is
this fear they are saying of life in the UK
that they have never had before.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
All right, sad days indeed, and I thank you Gavin Gray.
Out of the UK. It's eleven to six back home
and roadside drug testing starts from today. The pilot program
kicks off in Wellington, with the aim of it going
countrywide mid next year so officers can do random roadside
saliva tests. They're screening for cannabis, meth MDMA and cocaine MDMA.
(28:35):
By the way, ecstasy known as by some people. Steve
what is the Police Association president? And he joins me, now,
come on to you, Steve, what are you ready to go?
Speaker 10 (28:45):
Ready to go?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
How does it work?
Speaker 10 (28:49):
Look? Quite simply, it's a four stage process. The first
step in the process is taking a swarm from the
top of the tongue that'll either give you a positive
result or result from there. If it's a positive result,
you move on to stage two, where again another strip's
placed underneath your tongue. It is a sample strip. So
that sample strip is held and then you complete a
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third test again it swallowed the tongue, and if that
is positive, the sample test gets sent away for analysis
at ESR and it has to be matched against a
prescribed limit for the drug, and if you're above that
prescribed limit, you'll be issued with an inferenceement noticed.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So it's a much longer process than with drink testing
drink drive testing, which we're at home with it, and
we understand as well, will it be as effective and
will there be false positives and all those sort of
concerns that people have had beforehand, It.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
Will be an effective measure. What we've got to bear
in mind is that thirty three percent of all for
atal crasis between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty three involved drugs,
So this is a welcome measure. It's not going to
be as long or prescribed as perhaps you know, a
four step process. As I outline, those steps are quite
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quick to work through, but it certainly will take a
little bit longer than the alcohol testing currently does.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Okay, will this mean more work for officers?
Speaker 10 (30:13):
Look at it as an extra step that is more
work for officers. But what we've got to remember is
that we want to get everyone home safe. So every
officer out there is all about safety within the community
and this is another tool in which to utilize in
order to get those people home safe on the road.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And speaking which, when it came to the testing and
getting people home safe, there was some debate about whether
impairment is being effectively measured. In other words, some people
some people are impaired, even though they might not actually
trigger over the test. It hasn't been progressed on knowing
whether the test will show impairment.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Look, the test in itself will not show impairment, but
what police have in their toolkit is testing. That is
another test outside of the oral fluid testing which people
will have to go through a number of steps, and
does show impairment for drugs. So it's really important to
sort of distinguish between the two and that there is
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a process in order to determine a pairment when it
comes to drugs.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And should people who are on heavy prescriptions be concerned, No.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
I don't think so. In reality, there are methods in
there that if you are on prescribe drugs and you
do go over that prescribed limit, once your test has
been sent away and analyzed, there is a statutory defense
for those that are on medical drugs to write away
to police and explain that.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
All right, very good stuff, Steve. What a lot of
work has been done beforehand. It'll be a lot of
work going forward. But I thank you very much, Steve.
What is the Police Association president? And that's that thing
about impairment. You might be on a prescribed drug, it
may be saving your life and it may exceed the
limits that are down in the statutes. However, you may
not in fact be impaired to drive. So that's the
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legal test. And eventually, as he said, they're going to
go and check it out further. So if you are
on a heavy prescription, don't be concerned, but be concerned
if you know your prescription impairs you. In that case,
don't drive.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
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Speaker 10 (32:33):
That'd be Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That whole impairment debate is particularly around marijuana, which can
stain your system a long time, but you're not impaired,
as anyone who's been through some marijuana saliva testing at
work will have found. They show usage in the last
few hours, but not necessarily show whether you are impaired
or not. So you have some difficulties there, but we'll
get better and better. Heatherdwen Hello, I bumped into Barry
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yesterday and he was walking the boy. The boy was
the stroller and I thought, great, that's weight training.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable, but that
baby is in fact a girl.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He said that was a boy. Well, no, I've not
met you. I've not met you, and he said, no,
that's the boy and I went, no, hold on, that's
I mean, was four year old or a one year old. Well,
it looked to me, Well, I didn't like it looked
somewhere in between.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Did you see the right Personry was all in black.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
He was pushing the stroller. That will be and I thought, no,
the boy is four, so he wouldn't be in the stroller.
That'll be the girl. And I went, hello, I've never
met you before, and he said, that's the bokeh whatever, anyway.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
I mean, look, I mean, I'm like, I'm sorry, unleast
I have been living in an alternative universe for the
last eleven months.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That baby is a girl.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Well, I think the fact that we're talking here is
Barry here.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Can I just tell you, though, isn't it a delight
how early on in a child's life you can see
what their little personality is? Because that one is trouble man?
My mumbled, a little walker, you know, the little walkers.
They get in and they scoot themselves around. She scoots
as fast as she came to the plant, shoves it
in her mouth and laughs at me and runs off
in it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I went hello, and she wasn't freaked out at all.
She liked anyway, you've got a heavy show to come. Yeah,
it's a lot of time you're dealing with Bond. Absolutely,
thank you. See you tomorrow.
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