July 14, 2024 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Monday the 15th of July, Donald Trump is shot in an assassination attempt - Ryan speaks with a presidential historian.
An increase in Kainga Ora evictions, but is community-run housing the way forward?
The All Blacks narrowly won against England over the weekend. We cross to Auckland where the pubs are already busy ahead of the Euro finals.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store news Dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning, Welcome to your Monday morning. It
has just gone six after five on Ryan Bridge. Guess
how many Americans answered yes to the following question true
American patriots have to resort to violence to save our country.
How many Americans do you Reckon said yes? Was it
five percent? Was it ten percent?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Much more than that. I'll give you the numbers just
before six, also in the United States. But a trend
that's happening around the world. Women are flooding the workforce.
This is after COVID, the biggest numbers ever. So why
are they still complaining? We'll ask that question this week.
You get some inflation data out on Wednesday. After five
point thirty. We've got Gavin Gray in the UK. The
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King's speech is coming up this week too, so what
is on Labour's agenda with their big majority? We will
ask him that is after five point thirty this morning.
The agenda Monday, the fifteenth of July, and Donald Trump
has been shot in an assassination attempt at a rally
in Pennsylvania. Take a look at what happened. The FBI
(01:29):
have identified the gunman as twenty year old Thomas Crooks,
who was located on a roof about one hundred and
thirty meters from the stage when he started firing at
the former president. He was shot dead by the Secret Service.
A witness at the rally told the BBC he saw
the gunman minutes before the shooting. We noticed the guy
crawling army you know, bear crawling up the.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Roof of the building.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
In a statement, we noticed the guy crawling. In a
statement earlier this morning, Trump thanks supporters, saying he will
quote fear not but instead remain resilient in our faith
and defiant in the face of wickedness. Will cross live
to the US for the latest later in the show.
That's just before six. Back here ATMP Mark Cameron has
(02:13):
lodged a member's bill which would amend the Resource Management Act.
Cameron wants to stop councils from considering negative impacts of
climate change when looking at consents. Greater Wellington Regional Council
says passing the bill would be a step backwards. Bryan
Bridge just gone eight after five. Now, yeah, lots of
new information about this shooter from overnight. Thomas Matthew Cooks
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is his name. You'd probably already know that. He's a
white twenty year old with glasses. He's from Bethel Park
in Pennsylvania, but an hour's drive from where the shooting
took place. He graduated from high school in twenty twenty
two with a prize no less for maths and science.
He worked at a local nursing home in a kitchen
there you used to drive himself off to work. So
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he was registered as a Republican voter according to the media,
but he donated a small amount to a liberal campaign
group called Act Blue in twenty twenty one, So at
the moment we're a little unsure about exactly who he
was supporting. But what we do know is that he
was wearing when he was shot dead by the Secret Service,
and he was wearing a T shirt from a group
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called Demolition Ranch and they are a YouTube channel known
for showing off their guns and demolition content. And we
had a look on this website on the YouTube channel
this morning. This is one of the videos we found.
Were you ready to fire through?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
In this on and just hold on both buttons until
it's empty.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Okay, that's it easy?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
How many rounds?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was that?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
That was one hundred?
Speaker 6 (03:50):
That was so bad rounds?
Speaker 7 (03:52):
I guess that was the one hundred rounds.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So that was the audio from the website that he had,
the t shirt of Demolition Ranch. The gun. Apparently the
weapon that he used was purchased by his father. He
had explosives found in his car. So basically the gun
pretty easy to get, right them apparently very easy to get,
the tutorials online, easy to get. The Secret Service failure, Well,
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they'll be looking into that, won't they. But why does
a twenty year old this would have been the first
election he was actually able to vote in. Why does
a twenty year old go and pull the trigger on
an ar rifle instead of ticking a box and a
voting booth? Right this week? In New Zealand inflation data,
we will get some on Wednesday and the stubborn, as
(04:37):
a friend put it to me, over the weekend, Grinchy
Adrian Or will be in the news again, as we
will see the other thing that I'm looking for is
the banks, because asb obviously, a couple of weeks ago
predicted that they bear a rate cup November, so at
least twenty twenty four. What will the other banks do
once they get this new data? Of course, we have
the manufacturing data activity dropping to its lowest no on
(05:00):
COVID lockdown monthly level since February two thousand and nine.
The bn Z Business and Z Performance on Manufacturing index
is forty one point one. That's down from forty six
point six in May. That is below the long term
average of fifty two point six. And of course Friday
we got that bleak June card data. This is electronic
(05:21):
card data. How much are we swiping and spending on
our cards? The total value fell as seasonally adjusted point
five percent to nine billion in June from May. Spending
levels are down five percent year on year and you
can see it on the high street wherever you are
in New Zealand. So will this Wednesday's data help or
hurt our chances of an early Christmas present? And is
(05:45):
having Adrian or in charge? Is he a little too
emotional because he went too far? He got a bit
too trigger happy during COVID with the money printing, So
is he do you think too emotionally invested in getting
us back to the target range, which sure is his job.
Would you rather a clean slate and have someone else
in there? Nineteen ninet two was the number of text
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it's just gone twelve after five when we come back
kying of order is giving more tenants the boot? Is
it a good thing? And where do they go?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
News talk zidby.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Fourteen after five. Of course, the most heinous thing about
what happened at the weekend is the fact that one
person was killed, and the Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro has
just in the last a few moments announced the name
of the deceased. It was volunteer fire chief Corey Compretory.
He was fifty years old and he was killed diving
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on his family to try and protect them from the
bullets at this Trump rally, right, just gone caught a pass.
Now fourteen unruly tenants have been evicted from coyinga Order
properties in the last three months. That's fourteen and three months,
up from just eight for all of twenty twenty three.
The government has created a new disruptive behavior policy to
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make it easier for KO to evict tenants, but there
are calls for there to be more support before people
lose their homes. Joining me now is community Housing ALTA
at our chief executive Paul gil Gilbert. I should say, Paul,
good morning to you. Where did these people go once
they've give them the boot?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Look, you're asking the right question. We've got about twenty
thousand houses within the community housing sector, but I'm afraid
to say that they actually have people living in them.
So from a community housing perspective, we can have struggled
to take I mean, those are low numbers, let's face it,
on the scale of things. When Ko's got sixty thousand houses,
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that's not a hell of a lot of far noo
who are being exited. But we were not sure where
they're going to go. We've been asking the same question.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Right because there's obviously no room at Urine, there's no
other room at Chao's. In the private market, I mean,
they're not going to take them, are they.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, it's a question of affordability at that point, because
basically the private market will do what it does and
maximize its financial return. And these are typically households. The
ones we're talking about are low income households usually and
they can't afford to live in the open market. It
just doesn't stack up.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Do these numbers stack up to you? So fourteen this
is under the new rules, fourteen tenants evicted in the
space of three months. How many would you evict from
you that your members' homes. I understand they're about thirty
five thousand people living in twenty odd thousand homes. How
many would you evict?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, look, I think proportionately, just to be straight up,
community members, community housing providers also do if tenants. We
have always used that as an absolute sort of last
measure of last resort, right when all other avenues have
been pursued KO numbers. Basically they had for the last
(09:00):
six years there was an absolute no eviction's policy, which
is a very difficult circumstance to work in because there
are no consequences. So our view really is it's a
matter of lusts. All the numbers are increasing because they
were not evicting people at all. That's operating from a
very low base, and there's a whole lot of other
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considerations here that we need to taken into account, and
so you know, we're not we're not alone facing these issues.
But this is not answering the problem. It's kind of
shifting the problems for those who are victed. Know where
do they go?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Do they go?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And have then costs the taxpayer is the really big deal,
because what are they going to do with they're homeless.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The other thing, though, is you've got two thousand people
in motels, You've got what twenty four thousand on the
social housing wait list. It's not fair to them to
have some thug who's threatening their neighbors in a house
when you know this family needs it, so you've got it.
You've got to kick them out, don't you.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well, in our case, with the approach housing and appropriate support,
it's possible, we believe for all New Zealanders to have
a home. Being someone is neither of those. It's making
things worse, not better. It's around what do you do?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
How do you do that if they're threatening the neighbors?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, okay, So this is where we've started and have
been running for a long time now, tendency placement partnerships.
And what that means is that you've got to look
at the characteristics of the households. If you've got an
alpha male in the household, it's not a great idea
to stick them in a high density situation where they're
in close proximity to lots of other families. You need
to go for a single site, or you need to
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select gives them a role in the community, like the
Salvation Army do. For example, they'll give a bloke like
that a job in the community that they live in.
They'll say, hey, could you keep an eye on who's
coming and going from the facility, rather than just leaving
them to it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So it's basically a really intensive approach to dealing with
a tenant like that. Paul, thank you very much for
your time, Paul Gilbert. This morning, Community Housing Altered. Our
chief executive Andrew Ordison. Here were sport next to where
to Wimbledon?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
First the news you need this morning and the in
depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City
New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store News Talks.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It'd be twenty one minutes after five o'clock. A couple
of texts come in on the caring order evictions. This
is the number that they're evicting fourteen in the last
three months, up quite a bit on last year. Ryan,
we don't care where the ko evicted tenants go. Frankly, Ryan,
why isn't the government doing anything about the issues that
private landlords are having in the immediate I'm twenty thousand
(11:37):
dollars behind rent, very difficult to evict, and it seems
as though Bishop is only priorities prioritizing Cayinger order. The
ninety day no Cause is still months away from reinstatement,
and that doesn't help us much right now, Jamie, thanks
for your text. Nine two is the number twenty two
after five and Andrew Orlison here is with Sport this morning.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
We're in Wimbledon, right we are, and it's being complete.
So Carlos al Karrath has denied Jocovis. This is alusive
twenty fifth record breaking singles title. It's trying to, I guess,
beat Margaret Court, who's got twenty four. So elk Wrath
winning in straight sets and just taking what it took
a third set tiebreakert seven to four, but defending its
(12:19):
crown at s W nineteen and just in pretty convincing fashion.
So he's really it's a bit of a change in
the guard I suppose, But Djokovic no answer this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'll tell you what wasn't convincing in fashion was the
All Blacks win over end of the week. Liking your segue, Yes,
I actually went and watched it, Digit Park the blackout. Yeah,
what did you think?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Oh look, I thought.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That it was likely that Boden Barrett came on. Yeah,
I wasn't an eden Park.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
I had, you know, feed up in front of the
fire at home, but a pizza and a couple of
years and it was it was most enjoyable. But yeah,
it was some well it was at least for the
most but it was bar came I thought he was
the difference really, I mean just they needed that injection
and that's really what players coming off the bench and
the impact that they can have will do and what
he's got to be one hundred and twenty five tests
(13:06):
to his name, and he showed why he's been one
of the greats of the game for so long. So yeah,
it wasn't much between those two teams, and that eden
Park record was looking at bit dicey. There a particular
halftime once they scored that try, it was what fourteen thirteen,
it was all go. But yeah, I mean I thought
England did really well. Oh those two tests, they certainly
parody for a large part against the All Blacks and
(13:29):
on police of Robertson as Wello's new coach, just being
able to come in and at least to have those
two wins to his name and to not I guess,
have the added pressure of losing an Eden Park on
the first time.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
That it would be it'd been a terrible but be
awkward right very quickly because England and Spain the euro
Football Champs at seven am. That kicks off, doesn't it
this morning? Yeah, just very quickly. Who's going to win?
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Well, look, I think Spain will win. I've been really
imprett Well, yeah, I think they've played quite well as
the team. I think the key stat for me was,
I think thirteen goals so far in the tournament, but
nine players have scored them. That they're working along those lines.
But I mean the romantic angle will be that England
take it out and when they're first, you know, what
was it coming home or whatever with the title last
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morning in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Sixty six for the World Cup.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
But perhaps they can take the euros as well now
just to modify that.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And anyway, Andrew Ldison the Sport thanks very much every
time this morning, just round twenty four minutes after five
o'clock coming up next, are there any lessons and the
Trump shooting for us here in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Separating the fact from the siction Kid's Filly edition with
Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a pliant store
news talk zeb.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Just gon on twenty seven after five o'clock. Barring any
other major ugly affronts to democracy this US election season,
the image of a bloodied former president gripping his fist,
blanketed in a human shield of Secret Service agents, gripping
his fist pumping it into the air after narrowly avoiding
an assasin nation attempt will surely be one of the
(15:01):
most enduring and iconic He's reported that is Donald Trump
to be mouthing the words fight, fight, Fight, with a
somewhat and understandably angry look on his face. Donald Donald
Trump cheated death. What's interesting of all the eyewitness interviews
I watched over the weekend, all of them felt that
this was no surprise. It was only a matter of time.
(15:23):
Why is that? The Washington Post looked at in an
article the extreme language being used by both the both campaigns,
both sides of it, the extreme left and the extreme right.
After the shooting, the Republican Senator JD. Vance, who's a
potential Trump running mate, by the way, blamed the Biden
campaign for inciting this finance. He said, the central premise
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of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is
an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs.
That rhetoric, he says, this is a potential running mate
of Trump's. That rhetoric led directly to President Trump's attempt
at assassination this time. We don't know the shooter's motive.
We should make clear that. But is there a lesson
here for our political leaders, for the Chloe's chanting river
(16:07):
to the sea, for the Maldi Party calling lux and
a white supremacist, for David Seymour who was joking about
the guy Fawkes, and the Ministry of the Pacific Peoples.
The fact is, you don't know what nutbar is out
there listening and waiting for a cause big enough to
prompt some sort of lone wolf attack.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Here.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Most of the attacks are pretty minor, you know, the
old dildo to the face, the lamington on the head.
John Key was attacked by two menu ate white tongue
in two thousand and nine. They were both charged for that.
The question is whether the use of extreme political language
can raise the temperature and cause violence. Clearly, Hitler answers
that question for us, So politicians here on the far
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left like Chloe and White Titi should take note and
lower the tone of some of their attacks. But the
same goes for the far right, those keyboard warriors too.
What I would hate to see, though, is the day
where our poly peticians can't joke and take the mickey
out out of one another, speak forthrightly about their issues
and their beliefs, just because some idiot might be at
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home with a shotgun harboring hate. Question for the US
now is whether does this whether it quells the extreme
left and right, or will this bloodshed be answered with
more bloodshed?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
There are alone.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and a playing store News Talk Siddy.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I remember when we were drying drumming in your car
speeds are fast fill drum seriously before us in your
arm fell around.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Good morning New Zealand. It is twenty four away from Sex.
You're on news Talk said, being with Ryan Bridge. Good
to have you on the program. We're going to speak
to Alan Lick and he is a presidential historian out
of California. Just before six o'clock. Guess how many Americans
think it's okay to use political violence for a political
leader to use political violence. It's around twenty five percent.
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We break those numbers down for you just before six. Also,
we spoke last week about the conditioning units at the
Paris Olympics. You know, they weren't going to have them,
and then they decided, actually, we do need to have
air conditioning units because the athletes might be sweety and
it's bloody hot. Now there are calls for the cars
because it's Toyota that's supplying the cars for the Olympics
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this time around, and they're promising to be the greenest
ever Olympics. Of course, so Toyota is supplying the official fleet,
which includes five hundred Marie cars. These are hydrogen powered cars,
and one hundred and twenty scientists and academics, etc. Have
written a letter to the French and they have said
this undermines your green game's call. They say that hydrogen
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emits zero carbon at the tailpipe, but ninety six percent
of the world's hydrogen it's still derived from fossil fuels
like methane gas. They actually say they're worse than evs
and only marginally better than a combustion engine. So they
want them to change the fleet. And I'm sitting here,
I'm reading all these stories about the Olympics and I'm thinking,
I just don't care. I honestly don't care. What has
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climate change got to do with the Olympics. All I
want to do is see somebody run really really fast.
I want to see who makes the tiniest little splash
in the pool when they do the diving, And I
want to see whether they successfully pass that battern from
one person to the next, not what car they're driven therein.
I honestly just do not care. It's just gone twenty
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two minutes away from six o'clock Rainbridge. We're going to
our reporters and colums first into Needing this morning. Calum,
the new boss of otago UNI's looking to give back
to the Institute.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Yeah, morning, Ryan. This is former Labor Finance Minister Grant Robertson.
He's been in the job of vice Chancellor for a
couple of weeks now. He graduated from OTAGA of course
back in nineteen ninety five and is the first non
academic candidate appointed to this role. Grant Robertson says he'll
be giving up a portion of his salary to put
towards a students scholarship. He says he's having conversations with
(20:17):
staff about that to work out the final details of
just how it will operate.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Big salary though A. I think it's close to eight
hundred k. Here's he's on there at least. The last
one was how's the weather looking for today in Tonedin?
Speaker 9 (20:29):
Mainly find cloud increasing with possible shells later nor Easterly's
in a high of eleven today.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Thanks Callum and Claire Sherwoods and christ Church for us
this morning. The act MPs who's a bid to ban
regional councils from planning for climate change is getting some
up in arms.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Clear Yes, well, Mark Cameron's has submitted a Cameron's Bill
Cameron's Bill a Member's bill rather Ryan to amend the
Resource Management Act. He says the law stifles productivity and
allows councils to impose a patchwork of land use restriction.
But down here in Canterbury Environment, Canterbury Councilor Greg Burns
says recent long term planning submissions have actually shown that
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climate change action is highly demanded from locals. He says
Cameron's bill is completely out of step from what the
average person wants from their elected officials.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
All Right, weather today, Claire, pretty.
Speaker 10 (21:18):
Cloudy and showers here in christ Church, northeasterlys with a
high of eleven and five overnight.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Thank you very much, Max Tollers and Wellington for us.
The Reading Cinema site is up for Salemax.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah, that's right, Ryan.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
This derelict of Reading Cinema complex from Courtney Place, the
subject of a failed a City council project to restore it,
has hit the open market. The mayor Tory final had
wined and dined Reading execs not too long ago help
put together this deal to buy the land for thirty
two million dollars, which would essentially fund Reading's renovation costs.
(21:51):
But councilors swiftly realized it was a bit bogus, so
You've now got one and a half hectares a freehold
land on the Capital's Golden Mile up for sale and
area of stagnation to say the least. But I suppose
that's largely thanks to Redding itself closing in twenty nineteen
due to quake risks. One roof has the listing expressions
of interest till mid August.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Any idea on a price, what it might be worth?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
I mean, with the state of it, I think Reading
should almost be paying someone else to take it off
its hands. Weather today max cloud, increasing rain this evening
fourteen the high Central.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Thanks. Let's go to Lockey Rennie, who is in the
pub this morning in Auckland Lockey. Good morning morning Ryan.
Speaker 11 (22:34):
Yeah, I'm here at the Foxfire London themed pub here
at the Viaduct and watching English fans and just starting
to arrive here to watch England take on Spain at
Berlin Olympia Stadium. This game will be the first time
England has reached a finite for England and England will
have only one World Cup wind with no European Championship
win behind them or Spain are three time European champions.
(22:54):
Now to chat to the manager Scott Bennett here at
the Fox Who. It's been booked out since last week
and he's been starting with England Football pub quids fans
and getting some English classics playing here as the anticipation.
Anticipation boot here for the seven am kickoff.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Sounds like a fun morning. I doubt they'll be going
to work today. Weather for the City of Sales this morning,
so we've.
Speaker 11 (23:14):
Got some rain here this morning and it's possibly Huvy
clearing to find stars this afternoon with strong lead throughout
the day with the highest succeed to that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Thanks Lockie, Lochoreeni and Auckland for us. Just gone eighteen
minutes away from six o'clock. We're back in the UK
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Labor is preparing the King's Speech in the UK. This
is Keir Starmer's new Labor government with twenty five to
thirty bills reportedly going to be introduced Kevin Gray's in
the UK for US, Kevin, what are they looking at?
What are they going to start with?
Speaker 12 (24:37):
R and it's looking like a list of pretty much
what they promised at the start. We don't know yet.
This is ahead of Wednesday's king Speech. The king Speech
is basically when the government of the day outlines its
a legislative program what it hopes to achieve in that time,
so it looks like we're going to get new promises
on house building. Big shortage of housing over here, difficult
(25:00):
for first time buyers to get on the ladder, and
one way this government is determined to do it is
to build more houses. The question is we're a small country,
so where are you going to put them? Improving transport
that'll be pretty popular, particularly some of the links outside
of London which are so good, and also increasing jobs
and securing clean energy. They want to set up a
sort of national GB Energy company and are really driving
(25:23):
towards more solar energy and more on shore solar and
more onshore wind as well. Many people again very concerned
about what our countryside is going to look like. Thirty
five bills in total. We'll wait to see what comes out.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
All right, and of course in an hour and about
an hour and fifteen you're going to be quite busy
watching the telly I mentioned.
Speaker 12 (25:44):
Yes, so the Euro's final between England and Spain. Of
course I have to say you Spain are the bookie's
favorites eleven to eight, on England thirteen to ten. So
a little bit in it, not too much. As we
go into this, it's been even of fifty eight years
since England last won a major championship. You have to
(26:05):
go back to the World Cup of nineteen sixty six.
There have been four hundred and fifty seven players who
have represented England since then, and well eleven managers as well,
so it's been a time of course. I have to
say that the English play so far haven't been great
in the tournament. They've managed to get through, but it
has been pretty negative and defensive at times. The Spanish
(26:28):
play is completely opposite, very open, very free, flowing, very quick.
It'll be interesting to see these two sides come head
to head in an iron ten.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Good luck, Kevin Devin Gray, are you can europe correspondent
with US live from London. It's to Scarne, twelve minutes
away from at six o'clock Bryan Bridge. Donald Trump, as
you will know by now, has been shot in an
assassination attempt, the first on a current or former president
since nineteen eighty one, when Ronald Reagan was shot just
two months after being sworn in the government. Has been
(26:58):
identified as twenty year old Thomas Crooks. He was shot
dead on site. US President Joe Biden has spoken to
Trump and Biden's campaign has suspended all attack ads following
the attempted assassination. Joining me now from California is US
presidential historian Alan Lightman, Alan, thank you very much for
being with me. What generally happens? I mean, there have
(27:19):
been lots of attempts and some of them successful in
the past. What generally happens after something like this? Is
there more bloodshed? Does the temperature go up even further?
I think we may have lost Allan there. We'll come
back to him. Alan, can you hear me? Okay, I'm
just asking what generally happens after an attempt like this?
Speaker 13 (27:44):
Yes, As I said, political violence has been endemic in
modern America. You know, seven years ago Republican representative Scalis
were shot. More recently, there was this horrific hammer attack
on the high husband of former Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 14 (28:05):
The attacker was trying to kill Pelosi.
Speaker 13 (28:08):
And of course, the worst example of recent political violence
was perpetrated by Donald Trump himself, inciting the January sixth insurrection,
sitting for three hours and letting the mayhem take place,
ignoring his own supporters telling him to stop inciting the
rioters by an inflammatory tweet about Vice President Mike Pence
(28:32):
when they were shouting hanging Mike Pence. The violence resulted
in injuries to more than one hundred and forty police
officers and several direct or indirect deaths. Now, the question
is will this attempt further polarize the country or can
it possibly bring us together? There is a positive model.
(28:56):
You mentioned the shooting of Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty one.
His press secretary, a staunch conservative Republican, James Brady, was
grievously wounded. Instead of seeking revenge or attacking his political opponents,
he formed the Brady Campaign for Gun Control and for
a while brought the country together in an effort to
(29:20):
stop the epidemic of gun violence in America. We got
the assault weapons ban, which sadly has been suspended. And
by the way, the weapon that was used in this
assassination attempt and the killing of an attendee was an
assault weapon. We got the Brady Bill on background checks,
but unfortunately there's been no progress since then. And could
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we now come together and stopping gun violence, which is
a major cost of the deaths of our children?
Speaker 14 (29:50):
An American overall.
Speaker 13 (29:52):
Is twenty times, not twenty percent, twenty times.
Speaker 14 (29:56):
More likely to be killed murdered by gun.
Speaker 13 (30:00):
Than residents of our closest pure countries, which also have
mental health and drug problems. The difference is guns. Can
we replicate what James Brady did?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Ellen The October poll by the Public Religion Research Institute
and the Brookings Institution found that one in four Americans
agreed with this sentence, true American patriots may have to
resort to violence in order to save our country. So
that was thirteen percent of Democratic voters and thirty three
percent of Republicans who agreed with that. How do you
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navigate an election cycle when you've got people with such
extreme views.
Speaker 13 (30:42):
It's very sad, and that's why we have so much
endemic political violence.
Speaker 14 (30:47):
And the only answer.
Speaker 13 (30:48):
Is to do what James Brady did, organized organized persuade
vote for those who are willing to deal with gun violence.
It's a very difficult issue because the gun lobby, the
gun manufacturers have a death grip on so many of
(31:08):
our politicians. But if the movement gains momentum as well,
it should because a majority of Americans, how awhelming majority
of Americans believe in reasonable gun control. So if you
can get a political movement going. I wrote a whole
book about this repeal the Second Amendment, the case for
(31:30):
a Save for America.
Speaker 14 (31:31):
We're not going to get a repeal of the.
Speaker 13 (31:33):
Second Amendment, but if we get a movement going, that's
how change occurs. That's how you've got the great civil
rights initiatives of the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 14 (31:45):
For example.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Right, Alan, thank you very much for your time this morning.
That is out of California. US presidential historian Allen Lightman.
The time is seven away from six. Mike Costkin next.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge you for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture beds and a player store.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
News Talk said, be welcome back five to six Mike
hosting the mic hosting breakfast starts next. Good morning, Mike,
so good.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
To see you're living the dream. Has this worked out
well for you?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I think so? It was a pretty rough start last Monday,
was it?
Speaker 11 (32:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
But a little shaky, little nervous. Reviews and reviews have been.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Pretty good, solid out of ten. What are you giving
yourself so far?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Say?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'm giving myself about a six and a half.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
There you go, six and a half done, don't overmark yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
No, yeah, for improvement.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Glad you're enjoying it. So we're standing by for Biden
any moment, of course to say presumably he's going to
say what he said yesterday, which was the big question.
Is it seems to me that how the guy got
on the roof, that's the stuff that came out of
yesterday in the sense that we've served from a million witnesses.
But how did the guy get on the roof and
somebody let them down badly? And so that'll be taken
care of what I'm assuming. And the other interesting thing,
(32:58):
there's no connection. The kid's got no criminal record. He's
not connected to anything anybody. It's not like a track
record where you look and see hold on, you know,
something was going wrong there and somebody missed it. He
just seemed to be a you know, a regular registered
Republican donated to the Democrats. Next thing, he's on a
roof and he's dead.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
This is the thing, and they say that, you know,
increasingly these types of shooters are not are not actually
part of any group. They're just looking online at the
going on YouTube and then before you know it, they're
on top of the that's.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
A big question this morning. Nick Bryant, by the way,
our old mate from the BBC. He's no one's covered
America more than him, so he's will us on this
this morning, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
The Big Show starts in four minutes time. I'm Ryan
Bridge and I'll see you tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning, Welcome to your Monday morning. It
has just gone six after five on Ryan Bridge. Guess
how many Americans answered yes to the following question true
American patriots have to resort to violence to save our country.
How many Americans do you Reckon said yes? Was it
five percent? Was it ten percent?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Much more than that. I'll give you the numbers just
before six, also in the United States. But a trend
that's happening around the world. Women are flooding the workforce.
This is after COVID, the biggest numbers ever. So why
are they still complaining? We'll ask that question this week.
You get some inflation data out on Wednesday. After five
point thirty. We've got Gavin Gray in the UK. The
(00:59):
King's speech is coming up this week too, so what
is on Labour's agenda with their big majority? We will
ask him that is after five point thirty this morning.
The agenda Monday, the fifteenth of July, and Donald Trump
has been shot in an assassination attempt at a rally
in Pennsylvania. Take a look at what happened. The FBI
(01:29):
have identified the gunman as twenty year old Thomas Crooks,
who was located on a roof about one hundred and
thirty meters from the stage when he started firing at
the former president. He was shot dead by the Secret Service.
A witness at the rally told the BBC he saw
the gunman minutes before the shooting. We noticed the guy
crawling army you know, bear crawling up the.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Roof of the building.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
In a statement, we noticed the guy crawling. In a
statement earlier this morning, Trump thanks supporters, saying he will
quote fear not but instead remain resilient in our faith
and defiant in the face of wickedness. Will cross live
to the US for the latest later in the show.
That's just before six. Back here ATMP Mark Cameron has
(02:13):
lodged a member's bill which would amend the Resource Management Act.
Cameron wants to stop councils from considering negative impacts of
climate change when looking at consents. Greater Wellington Regional Council
says passing the bill would be a step backwards. Bryan
Bridge just gone eight after five. Now, yeah, lots of
new information about this shooter from overnight. Thomas Matthew Cooks
(02:35):
is his name. You'd probably already know that. He's a
white twenty year old with glasses. He's from Bethel Park
in Pennsylvania, but an hour's drive from where the shooting
took place. He graduated from high school in twenty twenty
two with a prize no less for maths and science.
He worked at a local nursing home in a kitchen
there you used to drive himself off to work. So
(02:57):
he was registered as a Republican voter according to the media,
but he donated a small amount to a liberal campaign
group called Act Blue in twenty twenty one, So at
the moment we're a little unsure about exactly who he
was supporting. But what we do know is that he
was wearing when he was shot dead by the Secret Service,
and he was wearing a T shirt from a group
(03:20):
called Demolition Ranch and they are a YouTube channel known
for showing off their guns and demolition content. And we
had a look on this website on the YouTube channel
this morning. This is one of the videos we found.
Were you ready to fire through?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
In this on and just hold on both buttons until
it's empty.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Okay, that's it easy?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
How many rounds?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was that?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
That was one hundred?
Speaker 6 (03:50):
That was so bad rounds?
Speaker 7 (03:52):
I guess that was the one hundred rounds.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So that was the audio from the website that he had,
the t shirt of Demolition Ranch. The gun. Apparently the
weapon that he used was purchased by his father. He
had explosives found in his car. So basically the gun
pretty easy to get, right them apparently very easy to get,
the tutorials online, easy to get. The Secret Service failure, Well,
(04:15):
they'll be looking into that, won't they. But why does
a twenty year old this would have been the first
election he was actually able to vote in. Why does
a twenty year old go and pull the trigger on
an ar rifle instead of ticking a box and a
voting booth? Right this week? In New Zealand inflation data,
we will get some on Wednesday and the stubborn, as
(04:37):
a friend put it to me, over the weekend, Grinchy
Adrian Or will be in the news again, as we
will see the other thing that I'm looking for is
the banks, because asb obviously, a couple of weeks ago
predicted that they bear a rate cup November, so at
least twenty twenty four. What will the other banks do
once they get this new data? Of course, we have
the manufacturing data activity dropping to its lowest no on
(05:00):
COVID lockdown monthly level since February two thousand and nine.
The bn Z Business and Z Performance on Manufacturing index
is forty one point one. That's down from forty six
point six in May. That is below the long term
average of fifty two point six. And of course Friday
we got that bleak June card data. This is electronic
(05:21):
card data. How much are we swiping and spending on
our cards? The total value fell as seasonally adjusted point
five percent to nine billion in June from May. Spending
levels are down five percent year on year and you
can see it on the high street wherever you are
in New Zealand. So will this Wednesday's data help or
hurt our chances of an early Christmas present? And is
(05:45):
having Adrian or in charge? Is he a little too
emotional because he went too far? He got a bit
too trigger happy during COVID with the money printing, So
is he do you think too emotionally invested in getting
us back to the target range, which sure is his job.
Would you rather a clean slate and have someone else
in there? Nineteen ninet two was the number of text
(06:07):
it's just gone twelve after five when we come back
kying of order is giving more tenants the boot? Is
it a good thing? And where do they go?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
News talk zidby.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Fourteen after five. Of course, the most heinous thing about
what happened at the weekend is the fact that one
person was killed, and the Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro has
just in the last a few moments announced the name
of the deceased. It was volunteer fire chief Corey Compretory.
He was fifty years old and he was killed diving
(06:45):
on his family to try and protect them from the
bullets at this Trump rally, right, just gone caught a pass.
Now fourteen unruly tenants have been evicted from coyinga Order
properties in the last three months. That's fourteen and three months,
up from just eight for all of twenty twenty three.
The government has created a new disruptive behavior policy to
(07:05):
make it easier for KO to evict tenants, but there
are calls for there to be more support before people
lose their homes. Joining me now is community Housing ALTA
at our chief executive Paul gil Gilbert. I should say, Paul,
good morning to you. Where did these people go once
they've give them the boot?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Look, you're asking the right question. We've got about twenty
thousand houses within the community housing sector, but I'm afraid
to say that they actually have people living in them.
So from a community housing perspective, we can have struggled
to take I mean, those are low numbers, let's face it,
on the scale of things. When Ko's got sixty thousand houses,
(07:43):
that's not a hell of a lot of far noo
who are being exited. But we were not sure where
they're going to go. We've been asking the same question.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Right because there's obviously no room at Urine, there's no
other room at Chao's. In the private market, I mean,
they're not going to take them, are they.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, it's a question of affordability at that point, because
basically the private market will do what it does and
maximize its financial return. And these are typically households. The
ones we're talking about are low income households usually and
they can't afford to live in the open market. It
just doesn't stack up.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Do these numbers stack up to you? So fourteen this
is under the new rules, fourteen tenants evicted in the
space of three months. How many would you evict from
you that your members' homes. I understand they're about thirty
five thousand people living in twenty odd thousand homes. How
many would you evict?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, look, I think proportionately, just to be straight up,
community members, community housing providers also do if tenants. We
have always used that as an absolute sort of last
measure of last resort, right when all other avenues have
been pursued KO numbers. Basically they had for the last
(09:00):
six years there was an absolute no eviction's policy, which
is a very difficult circumstance to work in because there
are no consequences. So our view really is it's a
matter of lusts. All the numbers are increasing because they
were not evicting people at all. That's operating from a
very low base, and there's a whole lot of other
(09:21):
considerations here that we need to taken into account, and
so you know, we're not we're not alone facing these issues.
But this is not answering the problem. It's kind of
shifting the problems for those who are victed. Know where
do they go?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Do they go?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And have then costs the taxpayer is the really big deal,
because what are they going to do with they're homeless.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The other thing, though, is you've got two thousand people
in motels, You've got what twenty four thousand on the
social housing wait list. It's not fair to them to
have some thug who's threatening their neighbors in a house
when you know this family needs it, so you've got it.
You've got to kick them out, don't you.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well, in our case, with the approach housing and appropriate support,
it's possible, we believe for all New Zealanders to have
a home. Being someone is neither of those. It's making
things worse, not better. It's around what do you do?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
How do you do that if they're threatening the neighbors?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, okay, So this is where we've started and have
been running for a long time now, tendency placement partnerships.
And what that means is that you've got to look
at the characteristics of the households. If you've got an
alpha male in the household, it's not a great idea
to stick them in a high density situation where they're
in close proximity to lots of other families. You need
to go for a single site, or you need to
(10:35):
select gives them a role in the community, like the
Salvation Army do. For example, they'll give a bloke like
that a job in the community that they live in.
They'll say, hey, could you keep an eye on who's
coming and going from the facility, rather than just leaving
them to it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So it's basically a really intensive approach to dealing with
a tenant like that. Paul, thank you very much for
your time, Paul Gilbert. This morning, Community Housing Altered. Our
chief executive Andrew Ordison. Here were sport next to where
to Wimbledon?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
First the news you need this morning and the in
depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City
New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store News Talks.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It'd be twenty one minutes after five o'clock. A couple
of texts come in on the caring order evictions. This
is the number that they're evicting fourteen in the last
three months, up quite a bit on last year. Ryan,
we don't care where the ko evicted tenants go. Frankly, Ryan,
why isn't the government doing anything about the issues that
private landlords are having in the immediate I'm twenty thousand
(11:37):
dollars behind rent, very difficult to evict, and it seems
as though Bishop is only priorities prioritizing Cayinger order. The
ninety day no Cause is still months away from reinstatement,
and that doesn't help us much right now, Jamie, thanks
for your text. Nine two is the number twenty two
after five and Andrew Orlison here is with Sport this morning.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
We're in Wimbledon, right we are, and it's being complete.
So Carlos al Karrath has denied Jocovis. This is alusive
twenty fifth record breaking singles title. It's trying to, I guess,
beat Margaret Court, who's got twenty four. So elk Wrath
winning in straight sets and just taking what it took
a third set tiebreakert seven to four, but defending its
(12:19):
crown at s W nineteen and just in pretty convincing fashion.
So he's really it's a bit of a change in
the guard I suppose, But Djokovic no answer this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'll tell you what wasn't convincing in fashion was the
All Blacks win over end of the week. Liking your segue, Yes,
I actually went and watched it, Digit Park the blackout. Yeah,
what did you think?
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Oh look, I thought.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That it was likely that Boden Barrett came on. Yeah,
I wasn't an eden Park.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
I had, you know, feed up in front of the
fire at home, but a pizza and a couple of
years and it was it was most enjoyable. But yeah,
it was some well it was at least for the
most but it was bar came I thought he was
the difference really, I mean just they needed that injection
and that's really what players coming off the bench and
the impact that they can have will do and what
he's got to be one hundred and twenty five tests
(13:06):
to his name, and he showed why he's been one
of the greats of the game for so long. So yeah,
it wasn't much between those two teams, and that eden
Park record was looking at bit dicey. There a particular
halftime once they scored that try, it was what fourteen thirteen,
it was all go. But yeah, I mean I thought
England did really well. Oh those two tests, they certainly
parody for a large part against the All Blacks and
(13:29):
on police of Robertson as Wello's new coach, just being
able to come in and at least to have those
two wins to his name and to not I guess,
have the added pressure of losing an Eden Park on
the first time.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
That it would be it'd been a terrible but be
awkward right very quickly because England and Spain the euro
Football Champs at seven am. That kicks off, doesn't it
this morning? Yeah, just very quickly. Who's going to win?
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Well, look, I think Spain will win. I've been really
imprett Well, yeah, I think they've played quite well as
the team. I think the key stat for me was,
I think thirteen goals so far in the tournament, but
nine players have scored them. That they're working along those lines.
But I mean the romantic angle will be that England
take it out and when they're first, you know, what
was it coming home or whatever with the title last
(14:13):
morning in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Sixty six for the World Cup.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
But perhaps they can take the euros as well now
just to modify that.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And anyway, Andrew Ldison the Sport thanks very much every
time this morning, just round twenty four minutes after five
o'clock coming up next, are there any lessons and the
Trump shooting for us here in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Separating the fact from the siction Kid's Filly edition with
Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a pliant store
news talk zeb.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Just gon on twenty seven after five o'clock. Barring any
other major ugly affronts to democracy this US election season,
the image of a bloodied former president gripping his fist,
blanketed in a human shield of Secret Service agents, gripping
his fist pumping it into the air after narrowly avoiding
an assasin nation attempt will surely be one of the
(15:01):
most enduring and iconic He's reported that is Donald Trump
to be mouthing the words fight, fight, Fight, with a
somewhat and understandably angry look on his face. Donald Donald
Trump cheated death. What's interesting of all the eyewitness interviews
I watched over the weekend, all of them felt that
this was no surprise. It was only a matter of time.
(15:23):
Why is that? The Washington Post looked at in an
article the extreme language being used by both the both campaigns,
both sides of it, the extreme left and the extreme right.
After the shooting, the Republican Senator JD. Vance, who's a
potential Trump running mate, by the way, blamed the Biden
campaign for inciting this finance. He said, the central premise
(15:44):
of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is
an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs.
That rhetoric, he says, this is a potential running mate
of Trump's. That rhetoric led directly to President Trump's attempt
at assassination this time. We don't know the shooter's motive.
We should make clear that. But is there a lesson
here for our political leaders, for the Chloe's chanting river
(16:07):
to the sea, for the Maldi Party calling lux and
a white supremacist, for David Seymour who was joking about
the guy Fawkes, and the Ministry of the Pacific Peoples.
The fact is, you don't know what nutbar is out
there listening and waiting for a cause big enough to
prompt some sort of lone wolf attack.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Here.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Most of the attacks are pretty minor, you know, the
old dildo to the face, the lamington on the head.
John Key was attacked by two menu ate white tongue
in two thousand and nine. They were both charged for that.
The question is whether the use of extreme political language
can raise the temperature and cause violence. Clearly, Hitler answers
that question for us, So politicians here on the far
(16:47):
left like Chloe and White Titi should take note and
lower the tone of some of their attacks. But the
same goes for the far right, those keyboard warriors too.
What I would hate to see, though, is the day
where our poly peticians can't joke and take the mickey
out out of one another, speak forthrightly about their issues
and their beliefs, just because some idiot might be at
(17:09):
home with a shotgun harboring hate. Question for the US
now is whether does this whether it quells the extreme
left and right, or will this bloodshed be answered with
more bloodshed?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
There are alone.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and a playing store News Talk Siddy.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I remember when we were drying drumming in your car
speeds are fast fill drum seriously before us in your
arm fell around.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Good morning New Zealand. It is twenty four away from Sex.
You're on news Talk said, being with Ryan Bridge. Good
to have you on the program. We're going to speak
to Alan Lick and he is a presidential historian out
of California. Just before six o'clock. Guess how many Americans
think it's okay to use political violence for a political
leader to use political violence. It's around twenty five percent.
(18:12):
We break those numbers down for you just before six. Also,
we spoke last week about the conditioning units at the
Paris Olympics. You know, they weren't going to have them,
and then they decided, actually, we do need to have
air conditioning units because the athletes might be sweety and
it's bloody hot. Now there are calls for the cars
because it's Toyota that's supplying the cars for the Olympics
(18:34):
this time around, and they're promising to be the greenest
ever Olympics. Of course, so Toyota is supplying the official fleet,
which includes five hundred Marie cars. These are hydrogen powered cars,
and one hundred and twenty scientists and academics, etc. Have
written a letter to the French and they have said
this undermines your green game's call. They say that hydrogen
(18:59):
emits zero carbon at the tailpipe, but ninety six percent
of the world's hydrogen it's still derived from fossil fuels
like methane gas. They actually say they're worse than evs
and only marginally better than a combustion engine. So they
want them to change the fleet. And I'm sitting here,
I'm reading all these stories about the Olympics and I'm thinking,
I just don't care. I honestly don't care. What has
(19:21):
climate change got to do with the Olympics. All I
want to do is see somebody run really really fast.
I want to see who makes the tiniest little splash
in the pool when they do the diving, And I
want to see whether they successfully pass that battern from
one person to the next, not what car they're driven therein.
I honestly just do not care. It's just gone twenty
(19:42):
two minutes away from six o'clock Rainbridge. We're going to
our reporters and colums first into Needing this morning. Calum,
the new boss of otago UNI's looking to give back
to the Institute.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Yeah, morning, Ryan. This is former Labor Finance Minister Grant Robertson.
He's been in the job of vice Chancellor for a
couple of weeks now. He graduated from OTAGA of course
back in nineteen ninety five and is the first non
academic candidate appointed to this role. Grant Robertson says he'll
be giving up a portion of his salary to put
towards a students scholarship. He says he's having conversations with
(20:17):
staff about that to work out the final details of
just how it will operate.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Big salary though A. I think it's close to eight
hundred k. Here's he's on there at least. The last
one was how's the weather looking for today in Tonedin?
Speaker 9 (20:29):
Mainly find cloud increasing with possible shells later nor Easterly's
in a high of eleven today.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Thanks Callum and Claire Sherwoods and christ Church for us
this morning. The act MPs who's a bid to ban
regional councils from planning for climate change is getting some
up in arms.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Clear Yes, well, Mark Cameron's has submitted a Cameron's Bill
Cameron's Bill a Member's bill rather Ryan to amend the
Resource Management Act. He says the law stifles productivity and
allows councils to impose a patchwork of land use restriction.
But down here in Canterbury Environment, Canterbury Councilor Greg Burns
says recent long term planning submissions have actually shown that
(21:07):
climate change action is highly demanded from locals. He says
Cameron's bill is completely out of step from what the
average person wants from their elected officials.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
All Right, weather today, Claire, pretty.
Speaker 10 (21:18):
Cloudy and showers here in christ Church, northeasterlys with a
high of eleven and five overnight.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Thank you very much, Max Tollers and Wellington for us.
The Reading Cinema site is up for Salemax.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah, that's right, Ryan.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
This derelict of Reading Cinema complex from Courtney Place, the
subject of a failed a City council project to restore it,
has hit the open market. The mayor Tory final had
wined and dined Reading execs not too long ago help
put together this deal to buy the land for thirty
two million dollars, which would essentially fund Reading's renovation costs.
(21:51):
But councilors swiftly realized it was a bit bogus, so
You've now got one and a half hectares a freehold
land on the Capital's Golden Mile up for sale and
area of stagnation to say the least. But I suppose
that's largely thanks to Redding itself closing in twenty nineteen
due to quake risks. One roof has the listing expressions
of interest till mid August.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Any idea on a price, what it might be worth?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
I mean, with the state of it, I think Reading
should almost be paying someone else to take it off
its hands. Weather today max cloud, increasing rain this evening
fourteen the high Central.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Thanks. Let's go to Lockey Rennie, who is in the
pub this morning in Auckland Lockey. Good morning morning Ryan.
Speaker 11 (22:34):
Yeah, I'm here at the Foxfire London themed pub here
at the Viaduct and watching English fans and just starting
to arrive here to watch England take on Spain at
Berlin Olympia Stadium. This game will be the first time
England has reached a finite for England and England will
have only one World Cup wind with no European Championship
win behind them or Spain are three time European champions.
(22:54):
Now to chat to the manager Scott Bennett here at
the Fox Who. It's been booked out since last week
and he's been starting with England Football pub quids fans
and getting some English classics playing here as the anticipation.
Anticipation boot here for the seven am kickoff.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Sounds like a fun morning. I doubt they'll be going
to work today. Weather for the City of Sales this morning,
so we've.
Speaker 11 (23:14):
Got some rain here this morning and it's possibly Huvy
clearing to find stars this afternoon with strong lead throughout
the day with the highest succeed to that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Thanks Lockie, Lochoreeni and Auckland for us. Just gone eighteen
minutes away from six o'clock. We're back in the UK
with Gavin Gray next. Welcome back. Sixteen away from six. Now,
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Labor is preparing the King's Speech in the UK. This
is Keir Starmer's new Labor government with twenty five to
thirty bills reportedly going to be introduced Kevin Gray's in
the UK for US, Kevin, what are they looking at?
What are they going to start with?
Speaker 12 (24:37):
R and it's looking like a list of pretty much
what they promised at the start. We don't know yet.
This is ahead of Wednesday's king Speech. The king Speech
is basically when the government of the day outlines its
a legislative program what it hopes to achieve in that time,
so it looks like we're going to get new promises
on house building. Big shortage of housing over here, difficult
(25:00):
for first time buyers to get on the ladder, and
one way this government is determined to do it is
to build more houses. The question is we're a small country,
so where are you going to put them? Improving transport
that'll be pretty popular, particularly some of the links outside
of London which are so good, and also increasing jobs
and securing clean energy. They want to set up a
sort of national GB Energy company and are really driving
(25:23):
towards more solar energy and more on shore solar and
more onshore wind as well. Many people again very concerned
about what our countryside is going to look like. Thirty
five bills in total. We'll wait to see what comes out.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
All right, and of course in an hour and about
an hour and fifteen you're going to be quite busy
watching the telly I mentioned.
Speaker 12 (25:44):
Yes, so the Euro's final between England and Spain. Of
course I have to say you Spain are the bookie's
favorites eleven to eight, on England thirteen to ten. So
a little bit in it, not too much. As we
go into this, it's been even of fifty eight years
since England last won a major championship. You have to
(26:05):
go back to the World Cup of nineteen sixty six.
There have been four hundred and fifty seven players who
have represented England since then, and well eleven managers as well,
so it's been a time of course. I have to
say that the English play so far haven't been great
in the tournament. They've managed to get through, but it
has been pretty negative and defensive at times. The Spanish
(26:28):
play is completely opposite, very open, very free, flowing, very quick.
It'll be interesting to see these two sides come head
to head in an iron ten.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Good luck, Kevin Devin Gray, are you can europe correspondent
with US live from London. It's to Scarne, twelve minutes
away from at six o'clock Bryan Bridge. Donald Trump, as
you will know by now, has been shot in an
assassination attempt, the first on a current or former president
since nineteen eighty one, when Ronald Reagan was shot just
two months after being sworn in the government. Has been
(26:58):
identified as twenty year old Thomas Crooks. He was shot
dead on site. US President Joe Biden has spoken to
Trump and Biden's campaign has suspended all attack ads following
the attempted assassination. Joining me now from California is US
presidential historian Alan Lightman, Alan, thank you very much for
being with me. What generally happens? I mean, there have
(27:19):
been lots of attempts and some of them successful in
the past. What generally happens after something like this? Is
there more bloodshed? Does the temperature go up even further?
I think we may have lost Allan there. We'll come
back to him. Alan, can you hear me? Okay, I'm
just asking what generally happens after an attempt like this?
Speaker 13 (27:44):
Yes, As I said, political violence has been endemic in
modern America. You know, seven years ago Republican representative Scalis
were shot. More recently, there was this horrific hammer attack
on the high husband of former Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 14 (28:05):
The attacker was trying to kill Pelosi.
Speaker 13 (28:08):
And of course, the worst example of recent political violence
was perpetrated by Donald Trump himself, inciting the January sixth insurrection,
sitting for three hours and letting the mayhem take place,
ignoring his own supporters telling him to stop inciting the
rioters by an inflammatory tweet about Vice President Mike Pence
(28:32):
when they were shouting hanging Mike Pence. The violence resulted
in injuries to more than one hundred and forty police
officers and several direct or indirect deaths. Now, the question
is will this attempt further polarize the country or can
it possibly bring us together? There is a positive model.
(28:56):
You mentioned the shooting of Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty one.
His press secretary, a staunch conservative Republican, James Brady, was
grievously wounded. Instead of seeking revenge or attacking his political opponents,
he formed the Brady Campaign for Gun Control and for
a while brought the country together in an effort to
(29:20):
stop the epidemic of gun violence in America. We got
the assault weapons ban, which sadly has been suspended. And
by the way, the weapon that was used in this
assassination attempt and the killing of an attendee was an
assault weapon. We got the Brady Bill on background checks,
but unfortunately there's been no progress since then. And could
(29:42):
we now come together and stopping gun violence, which is
a major cost of the deaths of our children?
Speaker 14 (29:50):
An American overall.
Speaker 13 (29:52):
Is twenty times, not twenty percent, twenty times.
Speaker 14 (29:56):
More likely to be killed murdered by gun.
Speaker 13 (30:00):
Than residents of our closest pure countries, which also have
mental health and drug problems. The difference is guns. Can
we replicate what James Brady did?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Ellen The October poll by the Public Religion Research Institute
and the Brookings Institution found that one in four Americans
agreed with this sentence, true American patriots may have to
resort to violence in order to save our country. So
that was thirteen percent of Democratic voters and thirty three
percent of Republicans who agreed with that. How do you
(30:35):
navigate an election cycle when you've got people with such
extreme views.
Speaker 13 (30:42):
It's very sad, and that's why we have so much
endemic political violence.
Speaker 14 (30:47):
And the only answer.
Speaker 13 (30:48):
Is to do what James Brady did, organized organized persuade
vote for those who are willing to deal with gun violence.
It's a very difficult issue because the gun lobby, the
gun manufacturers have a death grip on so many of
(31:08):
our politicians. But if the movement gains momentum as well,
it should because a majority of Americans, how awhelming majority
of Americans believe in reasonable gun control. So if you
can get a political movement going. I wrote a whole
book about this repeal the Second Amendment, the case for
(31:30):
a Save for America.
Speaker 14 (31:31):
We're not going to get a repeal of the.
Speaker 13 (31:33):
Second Amendment, but if we get a movement going, that's
how change occurs. That's how you've got the great civil
rights initiatives of the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 14 (31:45):
For example.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Right, Alan, thank you very much for your time this morning.
That is out of California. US presidential historian Allen Lightman.
The time is seven away from six. Mike Costkin next.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge you for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture beds and a player store.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
News Talk said, be welcome back five to six Mike
hosting the mic hosting breakfast starts next. Good morning, Mike,
so good.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
To see you're living the dream. Has this worked out
well for you?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I think so? It was a pretty rough start last Monday,
was it?
Speaker 11 (32:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
But a little shaky, little nervous. Reviews and reviews have been.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Pretty good, solid out of ten. What are you giving
yourself so far?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Say?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'm giving myself about a six and a half.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
There you go, six and a half done, don't overmark yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
No, yeah, for improvement.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Glad you're enjoying it. So we're standing by for Biden
any moment, of course to say presumably he's going to
say what he said yesterday, which was the big question.
Is it seems to me that how the guy got
on the roof, that's the stuff that came out of
yesterday in the sense that we've served from a million witnesses.
But how did the guy get on the roof and
somebody let them down badly? And so that'll be taken
care of what I'm assuming. And the other interesting thing,
(32:58):
there's no connection. The kid's got no criminal record. He's
not connected to anything anybody. It's not like a track
record where you look and see hold on, you know,
something was going wrong there and somebody missed it. He
just seemed to be a you know, a regular registered
Republican donated to the Democrats. Next thing, he's on a
roof and he's dead.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
This is the thing, and they say that, you know,
increasingly these types of shooters are not are not actually
part of any group. They're just looking online at the
going on YouTube and then before you know it, they're
on top of the that's.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
A big question this morning. Nick Bryant, by the way,
our old mate from the BBC. He's no one's covered
America more than him, so he's will us on this
this morning, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
The Big Show starts in four minutes time. I'm Ryan
Bridge and I'll see you tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
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