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November 14, 2024 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Friday 15th of November, could DOC start charging you for access to conservation land? The Government is seeking feedback on the proposal - Megan Dimosantos from the Federated Mountain Clubs speaks to Ryan about what it could mean. 

It was a chaotic day in the House yesterday as the controversial Treaty Principals Bill passed its first reading. Former treaty negotiations minister Chris Finlayson speaks to Ryan. 

A new type of geothermal power generation could be on the way. GNS Lead Geothermal Scientist Dr Isabelle Chambefort explains how it works. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge you
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture beds and a player store news Dogs.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning, Welcome to your Friday. At the
end of the week. It is the fifteenth of November.
Great to have your company. Just gone six alf to
five coming up on the show this morning, our lead
interview before six. Would you pay up to thirty dollars
to visit your national park? Yes, just walking in the
national Park, not even staying the night. We'll talk about that.
A new proposal from the government. Chrispin Layson on the

(00:36):
shambles of Parliament yesterday and Vincent mcavney out of the UK.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
The Agenda on the agenda this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
The US dollar continues soaring, heading two year highs, up
three percent since the election. Everyone watching tomorrow retail sales
data out of China. Obviously it's been weeks, so that
is one to watch. Votes are being countered in Sri
Lanka's general election. This is just two months after the
their presidential election. Remember that they got a leftist guy
in power. So the new president elected, but his party

(01:06):
only has three seats out of the two hundred and
twenty five seats in parliament, so he's dissolved it and
called a general election.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
He called a quick pause soon after the presidential in
September purely in terms of the momentum they had, and
it's expected of course for the MVP to do much
much better than getting three seats.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Luxelin is en route to Peru. This is for Apec.
He's going to meet with the Chinese premier, Shijing Ping.
Also Biden is going to meet with she on Saturday.
Biden was hoping to break down trade barriers between the
two countries, but Hurricane Trump is on the way. That's
likely the derail talks there. South Africa cracking down on
illegal mining in its operation it's calling closed the whole

(01:51):
Police have been blocking off the entrance to mines, preventing
food and water from going into try and get the
illegal miners to come out.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
In terms of their numbers is estimated at around four thousand.
It is also a part in that some of them
are actually not on good condition healthwise, and we are
also told that there are bodies there.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
The monthly food prices down here in New Zealand point
nine percent This is for October stats in Zen says,
largely driven by vidgi's down seven point two percent. However,
annual number is not quite as good, and the year
of October food prices were up one point two.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
News Talk Ziby.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
In a second, I'll tell you how we can get
and potentially get three times as much energy out of
geothermal right now, though this is a discussion document the
government has released at five o'clock this morning, so I'll
just want to run through the gist of what it means.
It could see us paying up to thirty dollars to
use to even step foot in some of our most
popular national parks. So they look at charges for conservation land.

(03:02):
That's a third of our country. It's eight million hectares
and it includes thirteen national parks. Currently it's government funded.
There's some hut charges. There's the International visitor Levy, which
would help the problem. You get loads of day trippers
going into our national parks. You get mountain bikers who
don't stay as long in huts because they're quicker on

(03:22):
their bikes. You've got lots of weather events that's affecting
the huts and the tracks that they've got upkeep. Plus
there's loads more visitors now than there's ever been. So
three options on the table from the government. One compulsory charging,
charge everyone a fee to enter certain places, charge foreigners
more than Kiwi's or charge only foreigners. Those are the

(03:44):
three options, and they're talking about places like Cathedral Cove,
the tongued Edo, across Seeing Milford Sound, Mount Cook etc.
They've given estimates of twenty or thirty dollars in this document,
though they haven't decided any of that yet. They're asking
for your opinion. So what do you think should we
pay to go and set foot? You can see how

(04:05):
Labour's going to play this, aren't you. Oh, it's a
new tax. They said they wouldn't do any new taxes
and now they're going to tax you to visit your
own nature. Nine two ninety two is the numbers of text.
Plus if you're in the tourism business hospitality, you've got
the tourist tax, they've international visit levy they've introduced, plus
now potentially a second tourist tax and our pre are

(04:27):
tourism numbers aren't even pre COVID yet nine two the
numbers of text. Would love your views on that one.
This morning, ten after five.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Ryan Bridge, also James Bond, the producer of the Bond franchise,
has confirmed a few details.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
About the new Bond. We're going to answer those questions.
What are they with Vincent mcavenie. That's all coming up
ahead on news Talk ZB I.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Will be or as last get longer the first word
on the News of the Day early edition with Ryan
Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds at a
player store.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
News Talk said be thirteen after five, news Talk said,
b there was a poll out yesterday. You might have
missed it in the shimmozzle that happened in the house,
but labor was up. The Headliner's new poll shows labor
at seventeen month peak while national support recovers. Well, I mean,
you look at the numbers and labor was up one
point two points. That's like wave below the margin of era.

(05:28):
National was up three point nine points. That's you know,
above margin of era or close to margin margin of era.
So why did labour steal all the headlines? Well, I
suppose it's because they went up, which is a trend
that hasn't been happening much of late. Also interesting out
of these numbers was that ACT went down one point
two points to eight point five percent. Now, of course
that's also within the margin of era. However, given all

(05:52):
of the headlines and the attention that David Seymour has
been getting off this issue that's supposed to propel him
towards the twenty six election, you'd be a bit worried
losing even one point two points.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Bryan Bridge, right.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
The government is funding further research into supercritical geothermal technology.
What is that, Well, it's like geothermal power generation, only
drilled deeper into the earth where the temperature and the
pressure are both higher. If the research works out, it
could provide more power than the Huntley Power station. It's
just the country's largest a GNS and MB are leading

(06:26):
the work. Doctor Isabel chamber four is the lead geothermal
scientist and she's with us this morning. Good morning, good morning,
thanks for being with me. First of all, how deep
do you have to drill to get the hottest stuff?

Speaker 7 (06:42):
So actually not really done much deeper than your normal
gim or well, because in the TVZ of a normal
heat transfer if you want of the TVs, what I
call the TVZ is this vulcany carrier sto for which
you want. So you're going down to a kilometer deeper

(07:02):
two kilometers deeper, which you're wrong, four four to six kilometers.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
How much hotter is it there and how much more
energy can you get out of it?

Speaker 7 (07:12):
So the heat is transported with the water that's circulated
in the crust, right, So it's generally around three hundred
and thirty degree maximum in your normal ge automal systems.
So it is by going a little bit deeper, so
a kilometer or two deeper, we can reach temperature above

(07:35):
four hundred degrees around or.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
For fifty.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
And that is a lot more energy that we can
access per well.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
And presumably you will need different machinery, stronger machinery. Do
we have it?

Speaker 7 (07:53):
So yes, it's been drilled both conditions has been drilled
in the past, and not in New Zealand, but world
in the world, in Iceland, Japan, or the US. I've
already drilled in those conditions a real rig that can
go at those deaths. It's really common in ail and
gas fields. So we do have the drill rig that

(08:17):
can drill that. The key challenge is to design a
well that will be sustaining those higher temperature and pressure conditions.
But it is an engineering problemingly and not necessarily a
true science problem to be solved.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
All right, thanks so much for that, Doctor Isabelle chamber
four with US Genius science lead for Geo Thermal. The
government basically Shane Jones and who is it Shane Jones
and Judith Collins giving sixty million dollars to try and
drill deeper and get three times as much energy out.

(08:56):
It's seventeen after five.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Get ahead of headlines.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand, furniture beds and a playing store.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
News Talk said be nineteen after five. Welcome to you
Friday for just joining us. The government is looking at
putting a fee and access fee onto some of our
most popular national parks and conservation areas, including the likes
of Milford Sound. Could be twenty could be thirty dollars
just to set foot on there and go for a walk,
not even stay the night. This is to help pay
for track maintenance. Andrew has text the program this morning.

(09:30):
He doesn't mind. Is it a tax or are you
just paying your own way? I think twenty to thirty
dollars is achievable for everyone if they really want the experience.
It is twenty after five, Ryan Bridge chaos in the
House yesterday, Parliament suspended. Here is Hannah ARFTERZMP Clark and
Willie Jackson, the Party of.

Speaker 9 (09:58):
Doug Bryan, the Party Christen, Jim Valter, Jenny Simpley. None
of those people would have been played the way the
Prime Minister has been played, mister Speaker.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, the former Treaty negotiations Minister Chrisphin Nason is with
us this morning. Good morning, Mordena. First of all, is
Willie Wright is National no longer? You know your party?

Speaker 8 (10:21):
Well? The National Party is a liberal conservative party. That's
why I joined to almost fifty years ago. And I'm
very proud of the traditions of Hanna McIntyre, Bulger Rave
and so on. I think we've moved away from that person,
that's pretty certain.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Do you think Luxeon's made a mistake in I mean,
I mean, look, if the choices either get into government
and swallow this dead rat or not, you would have
gone not.

Speaker 8 (10:50):
I would have probably gone not.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think, here is this going to cost them at
the next election.

Speaker 8 (10:58):
Well, that's interesting. A lot of mari come up to me,
which is not surprising at the airport and so on,
and see give me recently, I've always voted National. Where
am I going to go?

Speaker 10 (11:10):
Now?

Speaker 8 (11:12):
The debate takes place against the backs of what I
perceived to be hostile acts against target anywhere over the
last year in relation to names and treating principles and
certain admer sort of actions and so on. So it's
the culmination of a number of things.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
The KKK comments, you know, dibing that a packer up
in the grille of Nicole McKee and David Seymour, et cetera.
How does that play out with voters? With kiwis oh,
I think.

Speaker 8 (11:43):
That will be pretty appalled. You don't behave like that
in parliament. David's got to realize it's not some kind
of academic debate, sort of a nice polite level seminar
that's been conducted. So there will be emotions, that's for sure,
but the behave with con certain limits in the House.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Are you still a member of the National Party?

Speaker 8 (12:07):
I think I am.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, Do you still want to be Oh.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
No, I'm national. Took the Corps in terms of the
you know, the key Bolder traditions, and I just the
party seems to have moved a little way from that
at the moment. But you've got to be loyal to
your tribe. But I'm loyal to the traditions of the
National Party and what it stands for. A to liberal

(12:31):
conservative party is not a conservative party and you've got
to stick with it.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
What about the decorum and parliament You had to feel
for Jerry Brownly, Yes, today rock in a hard place.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
Oh, bron he's big enough to deal with those sorts
of things. I don't have any sympathy. You can deal
with it.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
What happens with the Select Committee. I mean, if you
have this type of rhetoric and this type of display,
you know, for six months, how that's a bit disrupt.

Speaker 8 (13:01):
Yeah, it's going to be a disaster rectoring. You're going
to get the craziest on the right and the crazies
on the left coming in and you'll get some sensible submissions,
but it's not going to be a particularly pleasant experience.
I think James Meaga from Rango Tatis came to be
cheering it. He's a very capable person, but it puts
a lot on the system and they'd have to deal with

(13:23):
a lot of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
All right, Chris, just before we go, you said at
the start of this you probably wouldn't have gone into
government over this issue.

Speaker 8 (13:33):
I didn't know. I guess look if I if that's
what was communicated, no, I would have adopted perhaps a
harder line. I get the I know what Key did
over the kenmed Ex legislation. He just said to next
month and me went do his office was not proceeding,
and I think Key would have said to Seball you're.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Not getting its plan.

Speaker 8 (13:57):
Callers buff and they have seen where it had a
andrum and said well, I'll go to the cross benches.
I know what Key would have said. He will have said, yeah, fine,
do that and old stand you personally and excell at
the next election, I'll destoy you. So you've got to
be fairly half notes apreciations, all.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Right, Kristin Lason, it was good to have you on
the show. That's former treaty negotiations minister Chris fin Layson
there twenty four minutes after five, You're on News Talks VB.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
How it by News Talks B.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
You're on News TALKSBB. It is twenty six minutes after five.
The political winners and losers from a bombastic day in
the House yesterday. Labor loser Willie Jackson did his best
to take the headlines, didn't he? But to Party Marty's
choreographed stage production well and truly stole his thunder and
with it they've probably stolen any hope of Labor regaining

(14:48):
the Malori seats they lost at the last election. Why
would you vote for to Party Mardy Light and Labor
when you can have the real deal. It's highly unlikely
Labor will need lead the next government for a number
of reasons which we've canvass on this program many times.
So why wouldn't you protest vote to Party Maldi In
twenty twenty six. Despite Willie's protestations about the NAT supporting

(15:09):
Axe Bill in the first reading, Casey Costello made a
really interesting point in the debate about Labour's own track
record on Treaty principles. They did a deal with New
Zealand first the Treaty Principle's deletion bill back in two
thousand and five on first reading and then later voted
it down. Does that sound for familiar years, That's because
it is. It's because the same thing is happening now
on the right to party Mardi. They are a winner.

(15:31):
They have shrewdly led this debate for their base, from
premeditated dramatic instagram ops in the House to fronting the
party adjacent lad protest across the Harbor Bridge, to encouraging
yesterday voters to sign up to the Maldi role during
White Eddy's speech against the bill. They have out maneuvered
and out gunned Labor on all fronts, and they won't

(15:53):
care what Middle New Zealand's reaction is to the antics
in the House. Therefore, politically it's a win. Luxen winner
of sorts, flying the coop to Peru turned out to
be and avoiding all this chaos probably the best idea
he's had in a little while. Seymour winner for his
base who support this bill. The results speaks for itself.
It passed, even if only the first reading. The biggest loser,

(16:17):
Parliament and Decorum, Barry Soper, on with Heather yesterday, said
this was an unholy mess, the likes of which he
had not seen in the House before and it's hard
to argue with that. The question now is whether the
same antics will be used to disrupt the Justice Select Committee,
and if so, what, if anything will and can be

(16:40):
done about it.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Bryan Bridge twenty.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Eight minutes after five, You're sorry, twenty nine after five
year on News Talk, said b Vincent mcavinnie is with
us out of the UK. Next after the news. Also,
Charles Manson has admitted he's dead, but he's in tape
recordings that have been released to more murders. It was
a recording done in jail a few years back. Also,
we're talking about charges to Dockland. News Talks it.

Speaker 11 (17:05):
B on Parlo and fun Candles.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
You're talking on.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Your breaking Harvey the Neston.

Speaker 10 (17:33):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Spitz City New Zealand's Furniture Bids and
a Flying Store.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
News Talk zid B.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Good Morning, New Zealand, twenty four minutes away from six.
Welcome to News Talk zaid BE. Welcome to your Friday morning.
We've just had Chris Finlayson on the program for a
former treaty to go Siation's minister under Keys government. He
says Luxon should have called Seymour's bluff. He should have
stared him down and refused to support the first reading

(18:11):
of the Treaty's Treaty Principle's Bill, which happened yesterday. Yes,
it would have meant breaching their coalition agreement, but he
said he would have had the bulls to do it.
Luxon didn't. He said the parties changed. That interview will
be up online at newstalksb dot co dot nz later
this morning, twenty three away from six. Now, I want

(18:31):
to take you to the United States. Matt Gates, the
guy with the giant forehead and the weird eyebrows. He's
been accused of sexual harassment, all kinds of stuff. Accused,
I should say, not convicted, accused. Anyway, what is Trump
playing at nominating a guy like that to be Attorney general?
This is from the Pennsylvania Senator, the Democrat John Fennman.

(18:54):
This is his view on Gates, who he says is
basically out the gate, just kind.

Speaker 11 (18:59):
Of like a guard to kind of trolling just to
trigger a meltdown.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
But really the.

Speaker 11 (19:05):
Dam's opinions on Gates, that's not really what's interesting.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well, to me.

Speaker 11 (19:10):
It is interesting, is is gonna those are the good
ones are going to come by? My colleagues on the
other side, the GOP on how they can justify a
voting for that.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Jerk off right and bread rich.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Michael Circles with us the Dunedin News this morning as
we check them with our reporters around the country. Michael,
the debate over McDonald's and Wanaka heading up.

Speaker 12 (19:31):
Yes, yeah, I mean this has got to be the
most controversial McDonald's in the country probably ever. This proposal
for a twenty four hour McDonald's really dividing opinion. Most
publics and missions opposing it. Some of those people putting
up protest signs to make their views heard the local
community board chair the Simon Telfer, telling us people have
been vandalizing those signs, writing over them, spray painting over them.
He says, it's not a healthy or helpful way to

(19:53):
be debating this issue.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
All right. How's the weather in d Needing today?

Speaker 12 (19:56):
The rain turning to showers, this sprning, cloudy periods today,
the high seventeen.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Brilliant, Thank you, Michael. Shannon Johnstones with us with the
christ Church News this morning. Shannon the finishing touches going
on the famous christ Church Isaac Theatre Royal Gala show.
It's this Sunday, right, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 13 (20:12):
This Sunday's gala celebrates ten years since the theatre's rebuilt.
It'll showcase a prestigious lineup including Miriam Marghli's, Richard O'Brien,
Anika Moore, Jason Gunn, the christ Church Symphony Orchestra and
the Royal New Zealand Ballet. CEO Greg Ward says the
event is important as they wanted to celebrate their theater
coming back to life after the earthquakes and being somewhere

(20:33):
Cantabrians can be entertained. He says, it's a wonderful place,
thanks to everyone who comes through its doors.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Brilliant. How's there? We a lot going on in christ
Church this week? What's happening with the weather today?

Speaker 13 (20:42):
The weather cloud increasing in showers becoming persistent and heavier.
The Savo high of nineteen.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Thank you Shannon and Max's and Wellington. Hey Max? Who's
this prolific thief?

Speaker 14 (20:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (20:54):
So?

Speaker 14 (20:54):
Described in an article this morning as a property mogul
turned criminal kingpin. This is a chin cock soon who
had lived in Newlands just past the harbor, recently now
resides in prison. When police raided this man's probably they
found almost three million dollars worth of stolen goods designer handbags, wine,
power tools, bikes, hate pumps, many still with the price
tag attached. This dell Boy figure apparently was the head

(21:17):
of a network of prolific thiefs. Thieves that stashed their
goods across lock ups, shipping containers garages across the city,
busted by police with a so called Operation trump Card,
which only started when officers noted a spike in the
theft of mountain and e bikes around the city. These
guys would also just walk into a store, clip the

(21:37):
price tag and walk out with items. A few of
them already been sentenced. This was Soon's turn at the
High Court this week. The sixty two year old claimed
remorse that wasn't accepted. Jailed for almost four years.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's me what a haul. How's the weather today, Max.

Speaker 14 (21:53):
Rubbish rain this morning, windy as well, should be okay
by late evening. Some surface flood around as well, so
drive carefully. Seventeen the hay in the city.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Brilliant next, Thank you very much for that. Good to
see you. How did you know it was my birthday?

Speaker 15 (22:15):
Is your Ryan Bridge's birthday tomorrow? But obviously you won't
be here, none of us will be here. So the
early edition Breakfast News team are here.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
We don't know how old you are. We're celebrating it today.
How old do you think? Let's play guessing?

Speaker 15 (22:30):
Okay, okay, Andrew Orderson, come on, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
No older than fifty, No older than fifty thirty seven
is how old? I'm seven, young buck.

Speaker 15 (22:42):
You must be the youngest toast.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
It must be between you and a year. Probably hen
is older than me.

Speaker 16 (22:47):
I wish I was thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Just take a look at it. You can tell. Hey,
thank you guys. That's lovely.

Speaker 15 (22:52):
Mike Kelly has made this beautiful cake for you, this
chocolate cake. Now I'm wearing a turkey hat because it's
going to be Thanksgiving couple of weeks.

Speaker 16 (23:00):
But I loved it so much.

Speaker 15 (23:01):
But here we've got gifts. We've got a little week
birthday beach and this is for you and your partner
because their gorgeous mug hats bright orange, and I thought
you could wear them for the Christmas party because that's
coming out.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Are you going to the Christmas party.

Speaker 8 (23:15):
I'm going to go.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, I can't not go now, Can I thank you guys?
That's very lovely of you and for the bread.

Speaker 15 (23:21):
Can I just say the weather is going to be
raining today, but tomorrow for your birthday, is going to
be lovely, a high of twenty one.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
And these caps are for your head.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yes, yes, all right.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's eighteen to Sex News Talk SEVV.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, peace of mind
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Speaker 2 (23:40):
The loads of feedback on David Seymour and the Treaty's
Principles Bill. We'll get to that in a second. Right now.
Vincent mcaviniy a UK europe correspondent, France is deploying lots
of cops. This is for the Israel football match. This
after the violence in Amsterdam.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 17 (23:57):
Last week in Amsterdam again between Ajax and Maccabi Tel
Aviv was surrounded by controversy because you had the McCabe
fans themselves involved in vandalism, tearing down Palestinian flags, attacking
a taxi and chanting anti Arab slogans. According to city authorities.
Then they were targeted by small groups of rioters. On

(24:18):
first and in scooters and cars which then pursued them,
and there was a lot of violence and ugliness in
the city, and various politicians have been saying it shows
that there is a problem with Semitism in Europe. But
this was also some classic sort of football hooliganism as well.
Now tonight thousands of police are having to be deployed

(24:39):
to the stad of France in Paris to ensure security
because France is playing Israel. There is a guide though
from the Israeli government advising people not to really attend
the match. The stadium can hold eighty thousand, it's only
going to be about a quarter full for this UA
for Nations League game.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Expected.

Speaker 17 (25:01):
After that guidance from the Israeli government, no more than
one hundred or so Israeli fans are actually expected to
travel to Paris, though there might be some Israelis in
the city that decides to pitch up. But the stand
of France is itself in an area of Paris which
has a big Arab population, a big Arab North African population,
and so the police taking no chances with security tonight.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right, let's go to the Bond franchise. The producer
has given a few hints about how the Nigs Bond
might be.

Speaker 17 (25:29):
Yeah, that's right. It's been quite a while since Daniel
Craig wrapped up his final Bond film, and there's been
a lot of speculation since over who will take it over.
Barbara Broccoli, who is the part of the family that
owns the rights to the movies. They've produced them going
back decades now. She's given an interview in which she
says the next actor not an actress, so she's clarified.

(25:49):
James One will still stay male, will need to be
in his thirties, could be of any race, but will
need to be young enough to be able to sort
of carry the franchise for or around a decade at least.
You know, Daniel Craig was cast all the way back
in about two thousand and forty thousand and five. He
did I think five films in the end, finishing up

(26:10):
two three years ago with no time to die. The franchise.
The sort of studio MGM has been bought by Amazon
in recent years and they're looking to try and do
what they always do with Marvel and Star Wars. They're
trying to really build it out and build it out
into some sort of megafranchise. So the producers saying that
they're going to need someone a man young enough to

(26:31):
be able to sort of carry that for a number
of years, because we saw from Daniel Craig it's pretty
physically demanding and if you get injured, as he did
several times, it can really stare back production.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Well, if they need a white man in his thirties,
I think they've found them. Thank you so much for that.
Vincent mecaviny A UK. You're correspondent twelve minutes away from.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Six Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Sure on news Talk to be Kiwis could be forced
to pay up to thirty dollars to sit foot in
some of our most popular national parks. The government's posing
it's just come out this morning introducing an access charge
to populent national areas natural areas. I should say it
could apply to tourists and US or just tourists. They

(27:12):
are out for consultation on this. They say it will
help maintain public conservation sites and the tariffs like this
are used widely internationally. Meghan de xantos Is Demoxantos is
with us. She's the president of Federated Mountain clubs. Meghan,
thanks for being with me, good morning. Do you support this?

Speaker 18 (27:32):
Look, FMC is supportive of conservation law reform, that we're
not supportive of domestic access charges.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
They say it will only be in overcrowded areas. You know,
your Milford sounds, your Tonguelito crossings, that sort of thing.
So would it affect many kiwis.

Speaker 18 (27:49):
Yeah, Look, I think that probably one of our biggest
concerns is that those areas are used by recreationists to
access other, more more backcountry areas. But one of our
biggest interns is that most of our recreation community are
actually also volunteers on the conservation estate, and those access
charges will become a barrier for people carrying out that

(28:11):
important conservation work. So what some people don't know is
that DOC relies quite heavily on volunteers to do their work,
and the kiwis actually also rely heavily on volunteers to
search and search and rescue services. So these people shouldn't
be expected to pay for the privilege of giving their

(28:31):
time for free to their community and nature.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well that's a fair enough point, but surely they'd give
you an exemption. I mean, all of this is up
for debate. Isn't that that's the point of it. I
guess you'd get an exemption surely if you were a volunteer,
well you'd hope so.

Speaker 18 (28:45):
But the volunteers have also recently been asked by DOC
to quantify their efforts, and so you know, there's a
certain irony and being a volunteer and then being also
expected to give you time to prove and quantify what
you what your contribution is, seeing what do.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
You reckon about for it? You know, because the climbers
here in New Zealand and trampers and people who love
the outdoors obviously do the same thing overseas. And if
you look at Yellowstone they pay thirty two bucks a
day to go their vamp and Canada national parks thirteen
bucks a day. Mount Fuji is twenty three bucks a day.
If we charged foreign tourists, one are you okay with that?
And two do you think it we're putting one off?

Speaker 18 (29:24):
I think that that we're more amenable to foreign access
charging than we are to domestic access charging. The thing
with domestic access charging is we risk pricing keyweeds out
of their own backyard. And also that disproportionately affects families
and those from low socio economic background. So our view

(29:45):
is that wild places shouldn't be places that only rich
people can visit. Obviously, people who are visiting from overseas
they have the means, and there's also infrastructure that has
to be put in place to be able to facilitate
their so would be more amenable to foreign only access charging.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
All right, thanks so much for your time. Megan Demasantos
with us, the president of Federated Mountain Clubs. If you're
just joining us this morning. The government dropp Day at
five o'clock this morning, Drop Day discussion document looking at
charging kiwi's and or foreign tourists to visit national parks,
not paying just to stay the night, but also paying

(30:25):
to actually walk on the tracks that need to be
fixed up. It is nine away from six News Talks THEIRB.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
News and Views You trust to start your day.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Playing Store.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
News TALKSB seven away from six News Talks heb Chrisphin
Lason was on the show earlier. He said Luxeon should
have stared seymore down, call his bluff and shot down
the treaty's principal's bill before they even got to first reading,
which obviously happened yesterday has passed, it won't go to
a second. We'll get past a second and it has
been six months in the Justice Select Committee. Now he

(31:02):
reckons he should have gone much harder and basically called
their bluff. To the Creepy Files this morning, Charles Manson,
you know cult leader killed a bunch of people in
the sixties in California. A new audio recording. There's a
documentary coming out, a new audio recording in which he
admits to killing more people. No one knew about the
whole part of flying line.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Nobody knows about a couple killers.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Bryan Bridge, he said, I lessen dead people on the
beach charming six away. He's dead now anyway, but six
away from six News talks, he'd be. Mike's here, Hey,
Mikey happy, I see the balloon.

Speaker 16 (31:44):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I think it's actually tomorrow, is it.

Speaker 16 (31:47):
How do you think your career is going?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I think it's going pretty well good, because I mean.

Speaker 16 (31:51):
That's when you sort of reflect on life on you birthdays.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yes, you must remember I'm still very young.

Speaker 16 (31:57):
Are you still playing that card.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, I'm thirty seven. Is that young?

Speaker 16 (32:02):
I was younger than me, much younger than you, isn't it.
But I'm more successful than you. Yes, but you're much older,
that's true. So it's the time success ratio. And this
is what we do on how old were you when
you started this your job? There's literally this job, yeah,
sixteen years ago, so whatever that is. So fifty say
say twenty, say fifty thirty nine, thirty nine, say I'm

(32:25):
but forty one forty two? Yeah, okay, so you've got
a couple of years ago you could be on a roll.
You got you, So what you're saying this time you've
still got times. No, that's that's good. You should fa
you should feel up beat about But that's exactly right. No,
that's good. People here with your your stuff turkey hat, Yeah,
they clearly, they clearly think well of you.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Never's got me a good and lovely gift. Now I
can't imagine you as a National Park walker. I don't
see you with your skrogan and your podcast and some
hiking got.

Speaker 16 (32:53):
Me nail perfectly. I have been to Crabapple Bay, which
is in the able Tasman. Yes, once and I did think.
As I wandered down off the track onto crab Apple
Beach or whatever the beach is called, I thought, yeah,
not fair enough, because you know, you've.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Never slept in a dock hut, because you have to
sleep right next to strangers and there's smelly socks.

Speaker 16 (33:14):
And in very low rent accommodation, very low. No, No,
I've never been. I love the idea of the national parks,
and I like that we have them, and I like
to think that I could access them and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
But you love to fly over them.

Speaker 16 (33:26):
I like people who enjoy them. My mother's one. She'll
go my mother will go to the Catlands like she's
eighty one eighty two years off and she goes, We're
off to the Catlands to walk through it. Wow, And
that's like I question whether she's actually my mother.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
But she might need twenty or thirty dollars for the extent.

Speaker 16 (33:44):
And she would be happy to pay it. That's the point,
more than happy to pay it. Hey, party, we're having.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
A pack No, no party, Oh, no party. Okay, I've
got to get that. But job first, I wouldn't have
come anywhere. Mike's next, have a great week in everyone

Speaker 1 (33:59):
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