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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
That'd be well, good morning to you and welcome to
the program coming up over the next hour. It's high
FU time the half yearly economic financial update. So what
sort of snapshot can we expect. Brad Olson's joining me
in five minutes. There's more complaints than ever about lawyers,
So are our lawyers getting worse or are we holding
them to better account? We'll have that story in ten.
(00:33):
Some notes on Bondai through the show, and just before six,
how can we do a better job of spoorting the
bad guys? Donald Demayo will be joining us from Australia.
We'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand and news
as it breaks, and you can have your say by
sending me a text. The number is ninety two ninety two.
Small charge applies. It's seven after five the agenda, so
(00:54):
it's Tuesday, the sixteenth of December. Australia's Prime Minister says
the National Cabinet has a read to tougher gun laws
after Bondai.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
By saying that the government is prepared to take whatever
action is necessary. Included in that is the need for
tougher gun laws. Tougher gun laws including limits on the
number of guns that can be used or licensed by individuals.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Meanwhile, that Bondai Beach locals have been paying respects to
the victims. Fifteen people died, including a ten year old girl,
and a further forty two people were taken to hospital.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So lucky down here, and I think that the community
is going to recover and I just hope that it
just brings all of Australians together, no matter where they
come from. And you know, we don't need to worry
about what happens overseas. Australia is somewhere that's.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know, the best place to live. Meanwhile, to the
United States that a man hunt has resumed and can
with a deadly shooting at Brown University, officials say a
person of interest is in fact going to be released
from detention.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
We know that this is likely to cause fresh anxiety
for our community and we want to reiterate what we
said earlier, which remains true, which is ever since the
initial call, now a day and a half ago. We
have not received any credible or specific threats to the
Providence community.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And finally, Hollywood director and actor Rob Reiner are meat
head in all of the family and his wife Michelle
have been found dead in their Los Angeles home. Rhiner
is known for directing several great films When Harry met
Sally This is Spinal Tap, The Princess Bride. He also
started Castle Rock, the company that made Shawshank Redemption. It's
take You to the Scene.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Police say that when they arrived they saw that there
were two bodies in the home, But what they told
us at this press conference is that they were unable
to actually go into the home because they're still waiting
to get a search warrant to go and investigate the
crime scene. So at this press conference, people are wondering,
are you looking for a suspect? Is there a suspect?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, news just throw on that police have arrested his
son Nick. He's thirty two years old. He is in
jail and on a four million dollar bail. It's nine
after five.
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Speaker 2 (03:33):
Me, so I made of mine? Got laid off Monday
last week, May redundant, thrown on the scrap heap at
the age of sixty three, at the top of his career,
his experience and ability. Obviously, his employers must have known that,
but they needed to cut costs. So cut costs they did.
But firstly, why did they have to do that a
few weeks before Christmas? It's the worst Christmas present ever?
(03:54):
Has it happened to you? It's adding an insult on
top of injury. Now my mate has to go into
the festive cs and unsure of his future, and doubly
so because there'll be no new opportunities cropping up in January.
As the holiday season stretches on. Some may argue that
after the disappointment of losing your job, the festive season
might lift your spirits and remind you that there's more
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to life than just your job. But others argue the
Christmas cull we see so often negatively impacts not just
the ones laid off, but also the employees left standing
in a hollowed out company. It ruins everyone's holidays and
motivation and spirits. To me, the Christmas layoffs are evidence
of a company panicking and trying to get on a
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benefooting for the start of the calendar year. But if
they're already that far down the track, it shows a
lack of foresight. It also demonstrates the number of senior
management who don't really have a clue on how to survive,
and they then fall back on that simplistic mantra cut
costs by cutting staff. So there was a fascinating story
warding all about this in the paper over the weekend,
(04:57):
and it said the management grabs hold of redundancies and
restructs to solve problems without realizing their true costs. Redundancy
payments and restructuring costs are big and often take an
economic year to absorb. In many cases, it leaves the
company in a worse position than they were before the
cash flow crisis that so often spark these things. It
often perversely leaves them understaff for growth. Cutting staff costs
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often cut revenue opportunities and the company is left no
better off. So if you are a boss and you're
about to play the Grinch at Christmas and become that
detested person who takes away livelihoods, take a beat have
a think and maybe think that maybe it's not the
number of staff you have or what they're paid, but
your lack of ability to make money with the ones
you've got, and maybe you should be changing that first
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before you break an employee's heart, as it Bestrive up five.
So the Hiphu's coming up today. The government opens their
books Thursday, we find out the GDP figures. I can
tell you that economists, and there's loads of stories about this,
are expecting the third quarter to be way better than
we had hope for. So that might be some good
news on Thursday. What might happen today? Brad Olsen is
(06:06):
joining us.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
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Speaker 7 (06:19):
That'd be well.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's fourteen after five. Later today, the government's going to
open their books and let us take a look inside.
It's called the HYPHO, the half year the Economic and
Fiscal Update. How much money did the government get in
in tax and how are they spending it? It'll give
us a clearer idea of just how back on track
we are. Brad Olsen is the Inframetric's chief executive and joinsy.
(06:39):
Now hallo, Brad, good morning. So what do you reckon?
It's going to be good news or bad news. I mean,
there's a lot of people talking that the third quarter
was pretty good.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
That's right. We have started to see a number of
I guess economic indicators that have started to show a
tune up, which is important. But of course the Treasury
would have done their forecast based on what we had
up until the second quarter, which was certainly a more
challenging period for the economy. Realistically, the economic recovery that
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Treasury had been expecting through the course of twenty twenty
five hasn't been going as quickly as expected, and so
really from the high through today, we're expecting a bit
of a downgrade compared to what they said in the
budget in terms of how quickly the economic momentum is rebuilding.
And of course with that economic recovery taking longer, it
means that the government's not able to raise quite as
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much tax revenue it's not seen as much spending or
anything else, but also has often had to incur higher expenses,
you know, higher benefit claims and similar. Long story short,
it probably means that the government has been in a forecast.
Who spend more and earn a little bit less than
we probably thought back at the budget.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
This is the thing, isn't it. The tax, the tax income,
the revenue that is, that's about where we're actually fathing.
Because you can cut costs and government spending as much
as you like, but if of course your revenue is
going down as well, you end out just standing still.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Exactly, and I mean standing still in some senses, would
still be not a bad position. As it is. We know,
and this has of course been a big point of
contention in the last couple of weeks, that we're still
effectively having to borrow to pay for ongoing spending over
the next couple of years. You know, we're in deficit.
(08:23):
The government books are in deficit until the late twenty
twenties on the government's preferred measure there the over gar x,
and of course that means that New Zealand's debt over
time continues to accumulate. Now, the difficulty and the challenge
there is that at the same time, as clearly it
would be better to be in a surplus, there is
also the difficulty of a lot of decisions that have
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been made over the last couple of years that have
to continue to be funded unless you are willing to
take some pretty serious services and similar away from people.
That's sort of where the balancing act is. And so
one of the questions we're trying to work out for
ourselves today looking through the numbers is what does the
government do heading into an election year budget budget twenty
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twenty six. You know, sometimes there expectations from some quarters
for more of a spend up, but if the government
books aren't looking quite as slash, there's also a reasonable
expectation that the government might say, look, we were going
to spend X amount of money, but now we're going
to spend less than that to try and keep a
bit more control there. It is a fine balancing act.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's ethie if you had to bet on Nikola versus
Ruth Hoodwin, I.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Don't like getting into that one. I mean, put it
this way, I'm a lot more interested in the actual
numbers and where they've gone. I mean, one of the
challenges of the last couple of years is given how
high wage inflation previously has been one of the reasons
you've seen an increase in government spending over the last
couple of years is because the single biggest line item,
New Zealand Super, continues to go up. I mean, Andrew,
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we still spend more money on New Zealand Super each
and every year than the entire education budget in New Zealand.
Like in ter of making changes, that's probably the biggest discording.
You can make little nips and bucks here and there
when it comes to the budget, but really unless you're
going to hit some of those biggest spending items, and
they're generally in that sort of social area, the likes
(10:13):
of superannuation and summer, you really aren't going to touch
the sides in terms of the big spending challenges.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Thank you Brad brad Olsen from Informetrics here on New Soalks.
Heb it's eighteen minutes after five. If you want some
good news after that, I think you do. A guy
called Harley James of Becker has been talking with Tim
Murphyett Newsroom about Auckland. Beck is a business involved in
most of the infrast projects in New Zealand. Anyway, Harley
reckons that good days are coming for the Queen City.
He says the opening of the rail thing the International
(10:40):
Convention Center. That are going to be major boosts for
the economy and the region. Becker also likes the new
resource management framework and the possibility of an Auckland City
regional deal with government, and he reckons all these things
will increase Auckland's productivity. He reckons projects will be completed faster,
Aucklanders will get more bang for their bucks in their eyes.
He's also excited about the four lane motorway to Northland
and building a dry dock up there. He's going great
(11:04):
guns here, we can Zalkland. We'll go great guns next year. Becker,
by the way, very interesting company. Four thousand people, seventy
five professional service disciplines, working across thirty countries. They've been
going for one hundred and five years. Their employee owned
and they actually have a formal mechanism for bringing younger
people into the ownership structure over time. And that may
(11:24):
be so, but what I like is they see good
times coming. It is five twenty. Our lawyers worse because
complaints are up. That story is next.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
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Speaker 2 (11:43):
Be five twenty two. There's been an eleven percent spike
and complaints to the Law Society about lawyers over the
past year. Most of the thirteen hundred complaints relate to
legal negligence or incompetence. Eighty percent lead nowhere. So Julianne Kincaid,
is the vice president and of the Law Association, joins me. Now, Hello, Julienne,
good morning. So is the rise in complaints because of
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a rise in bad lawyers or is this sore loser clients.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
I can't say why there's been a rising complaints, but
I would like to think that there would probably be
a variety of reasons there are. There's a wide spectrum
of things that people can complain about. Obviously, it goes
from an extreme end of very bad behavior of misconduct
which we cannot tolerate within the profession, through a lot
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of things like bad communications or billing issues, and through
to right through to the other end of the spectrum,
which is a vexatious litigant client, sort of client who
will complain about every court. Yes, yes, it's a broad spectrum.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
The Law Society says people are more educated on the
lord to to check deputy and AI and that leads
to us, so are we more educated or do we
just think.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
We are a Look, I think that managing expectations is
always part of a lawyer's job and I can remember
even a long time ago, I'm a criminal lawyer in
England where people would particularly in prison, would talk to
each other and perhaps read up on the law and
then come to us and say, look, I think this,
and we have to have those conversations and we shouldn't
(13:26):
mind that. I actually welcome a client who's engaged in
doing their own research. But of course we are the
experts a little bit like if you go to the
doctor and you're going to look up your symptoms before
you go. When you go to the doctor and say
I think it's this, the doctor will then be able
to tell you because they're trained and have experienced.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So how do you make sure the lawyer you've got
is the right lawyer for you and a good one?
I mean, is there a my teacher dot com for lawyers?
Is there some way you can get advice? How do
you choose a lawyer?
Speaker 9 (13:55):
I think, personally, and this is just my personal view,
that Doyle's Guide is a good way to start, because
that is one of those databases, which is actually other
lawyers saying who's a good lawyer. I think that's the
closest thing I can think about in that area. Of course,
we all google everybody nowadays you can look up and
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see maybe if they've done other cases, what have they
been in the papers? But not all of our work
is published. A lot of what we do is obviously
very confidential, and that's quite right. So asking around is
always the best way. If you know people that have
been through similar experiences, it's always a good web doing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And Concaid King's Counsel, thank you so much for your
time today and all your advice. By the way, there
was a legal conference in New York last week and
people were going with the rise of AI, does this
mean that lawyers are going to be unable to build
as much? And in fact the conference decern lawyers could
actually believe it more up to ten thousand dollars an
hour because we're using AI, their legal advice is going
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to be even better. They say, all right, it is
our five twenty five Some notes about BONDI.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
News Talks, b five twenty seven. I was pretty blue yesterday.
Yesterday was a sad, morose day reflecting on what happened
in Bondai, the Jewish deaths and their horror, and it
was made worse by this never ending stream of video
coverage from every angle. Never has a massacre been as
documented and then distributed as this. It's the power of
citizens who basically have broadcast studios in their phones. Right now,
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we have video after video spread by the very social
media that Australia banned for the under sixteenes this past week,
And we saw the victims, the dead and the dying,
and those being given CPR in their summer shorts, and
they flip flops ready for a day of family fund
by the sea. They looked like us because they are us,
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and the father and the son. They have done remarkable,
portly fat on the life of comfort Australia has given them,
and yet they did what they did. The face of
evil is so often banal. Now are you beginning to
think these days that Winston Peters knew what he was
talking about when he refused to back a state of
Palestine earlier in the year. I was one of the
few who did agree. There is no state. There was
(16:14):
no governing authority or governance legitimacy. But underneath it all
there was no indication that the Palestinians wanted peace, and
his concern that her mass was still armed and recognition
could push her mass and their supporters to a more
hardened position. That's what Winston said. So in the wake
of the killings, there was a Jewish blok that I
saw on my phone in front of the dead and
(16:36):
the dying, and he let rip. He talked about October
the seventh, He talked about the harmas atrocity, and then
he railed about Alberanesi and all the other states and
statesmen who then sent money to Guardza and made virtue
signaling noises about state recognition and Lovererhold, what do we see?
An angry, empowered people, big grudge, still adopting a hardened position.
Benjaminette Nia, who wrote to Alberenzi back in August, He
(16:59):
warned that the moves to recognize the Palestinian state poured
fuel on the anti Semitic fire and embolden those who
menace Australian Jews and encourages the due hatred which now
stalks you a street now, was Netanyahu wrong? Apparently we
have a peace process. Obviously it's not working. Apparently the
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endgame for the end of violence between these two faiths
is a two state solution. But can we really see
these two people co existing anytime soon? Zibb's Jane Austin's
birthday today. I'll tell you some facts and figures about that.
I want to talk about gun mows. Go to talk
to a security expert about how we can spot the
bad guys sooner. It's all still to come here on early.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
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us talk said, be.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Christmas, that's the best.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
Time of the year.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I don't know Dickins, Ryan's doing drive, Heather's doing breakfast.
Happy birthday to Jane Austen. You know Jane Austin, Sense
and sensibility, pride and prejudice. Jane Austen's two hundred and
fifty years old today and still not married. She was
born to say seventeen seventy five in a town called
Steventon in Hampshire. She loved Hampshire. She's buried at Winchester Cathedral.
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Now all around the world people are going absolutely crazy
for this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. There are Regency
balls everywhere, cosplays on steroids. Men are dashing and troubled
and offered soaking wet. Women are causeted and swooning. Couples
are dancing, daring to touch the re enacting what happened
back in the eighteen hundreds. It's a celebration of romance
and gossip and plans and romantic love versus pragmatic love.
(18:55):
And yet, yeah, the whole irony is that Jane Austen,
the Queen of Romance, never married. She had a boyfriend
or two, she nearly got married. But you know, she
was absolutely beholden and ruled by her brothers because in
the early eighteen hundreds, that's what happened to women in
the early eighteen hundreds. People did not know her name.
Her books had the byline written by a lady, because
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ladies had no purchase in society in those days. They
had no vote, no money. They were nothing without their man.
So Jane's name was not known and the romance, she wrote,
was fired on by this desperation of ladies and their
parents to find a man, any man who could provide
the money to live. It was a life and death
affair and in no way romantic, and an affair that
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Jane Austen herself was never a part of. She wrote
great romance, but never had a romance herself. Really, So
the real reason to celebrate to Austin today is not
her writing of love and the politics of love, even
though the writing is fantastic. Rather it's that it's to
reflect that now things have changed and now women are
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no longer a tattle of man. News dogs'd be now
in the country we go. Kellen Proctor from Otaga. Good
morning to you.
Speaker 10 (20:05):
Morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So tell me about the Tuhura Otago Museum.
Speaker 10 (20:11):
Well, the news out of the museum today is that
it's opening up its iconic photography competition to the nations.
So for twenty six years here this competition supported generations
of amateur photographers, only those living in Otago though, but
that's changing. From next year there's going to be a
new pop up category, Wild Rtro, which will be open
to photographers nationwide. Sure to be popular. The Museum says
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this responds to years of interest from outside the region.
They say they're still proudly celebrating Otaga photographers, but this
just felt like the right next step.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
How's your weather?
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Showers thunderstorms Inhale this afternoon, which is becoming common in
our forecast seventeen the high today.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Thank you Chris here, we're from christ Roach. Good morning,
Good morning. So the christ Rich disability community are putting
on a sitcom.
Speaker 11 (20:57):
Yeah, this is fun, just as we have the special
Olympics hosted here in christ Church at the moment, of course,
we've got this new sitcom which is by the Inclusive
Performance Academy. I've created a show called people Like Us,
following a group of friends with disabilities as well as
their support workers. It's modeled on the cast's favorite sitcom Friends.
Director Fiona mackenzie says, with a disability, you do spend
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a lot of time as an audience member and there's
not a lot of opportunity to be front and center
and the entertainer. So that's what this is all about.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
She says.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
It's not a show about disability as such, but the
disability is there throughout and that has never been the
case before. Mackenzie says this show is part fantasy, part
scripted comedy, also a bit of brutal reality, with the
cast finding themselves in circumstances every day that just wouldn't
happen to ordinary people.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You could write about it, Kenya, and they'll make us laugh. Now,
what's the weather like?
Speaker 11 (21:52):
Mostly cloudy today, We could see some thundery, hail and
showers a bit later tonight. Northwesterly, strong at times and
the maximum will be twenty five.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
The gardens will be happy. Next toll from Wellington, Good
morning to you.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So Wellington's getting a new brewery. Not that you needed
much more, No, No, we've.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
Had a few closes this year in fact in the
craft beer beers in Wellington. So some positive news to
when twenty twenty five. Not amost a new brewery, but
one expanding from New Plymouth. That's Three Sisters, quite a
highly regarded brewery. It's expanding to Wellington, opening a new
side on Blair Streets off Courtney Place. Investors apparently are
feeling good. They want to expand also in New Plymouth
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Shining Peak and that maybe by Shade, the best known
brewery in the city and that already expanded to christ
Church and Sumner. Recently, the owner of Three Sisters believes
Wellington is well near the bottom economically looking up rather
than still in a period of decline.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So some good news there.
Speaker 12 (22:51):
Generally speaking, I wouldn't say the craft beer bubble has
necessarily burst. Garrett's project is still thriving. They took over
the Fortune Favors space this year. Hospital and Z is
feeling good and some good news now with Three Sisters
on the way shortly early next year.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Good names too. Hey, how's your weather?
Speaker 12 (23:08):
A period of rain from mid morning and strong northerlies
nineteen the hay and.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I thank you very much andiew aw come we go
Wendy Petrick morning to morning. So tell me about the
Splaw Festival, which is one of the favorites. It wasn't
here last year. They have financial difficulties last year that
took a two year break, but it's back this year.
So what's the news, Well, yes, this is it.
Speaker 13 (23:26):
Explore has announced it'll come to an end next year
after hopes of a government lifeline fell through. So next
year's installment of the annual Boutique of Music and Arts
Festival at Auckland's at Tappa Tappa Kanga Regional Park were
the last due to low ticket sales in recent years. Now,
longtime owner John Minty says they weren't considered for the
government's seventy million dollar Major Events funds. He says he
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spent three weeks on the application and thought they had
a good cause. He says it's a bit of a
worry that funding isn't going towards events that showcase New
Zealand talent.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So that is the end of the stage and overseas
town I know roycecop coming. They're very good band, and
Nightmares on Wax are a very good band as well.
It's a great thing. Six stages anyway. How's Awkin's weather?
Speaker 13 (24:07):
Well, all, it looks like the good weather's coming to
an end, doesn't it rain? From late afternoon briefly heavy,
then clearing tonight northerly strong at times this afternoon changing
to southwesterly. We still have a warm high though, twenty
six degrees.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Wendy, I thank you. It is now seventeen minutes to six,
So we're about to talk to Donald Toveyo out of
Australia about Bondi and we're about to talk to an
defense expert about spotting the bad guys. The other thing
that happened after BONDI of course immediately it's the playbook
now and to Sinder did it? Howard did it? After
Port Arthur? It's gun control now on guns. The weapons
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used by the father and son in Bondai were legally obtained.
They were long guns, hunting guns, not military style semi
automatic weapons. If they had military style semi automatic weapons,
there would have been significantly more fatalities. So these legal
guns held by i llegal owner. It's a reminder that
guns don't kill people. People kill people. So now Russia,
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so now Australia is rushing to strengthen gun laws and
the thrust will be making sure the wrong people don't
have guns full stop. And this, of course will feel
like an affront to decent gun owners. But maybe they
could tell us how you could stop the wrong people
having guns, because all the people who don't have guns
still feel threatened. It is sixteen to.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Six International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Fourteen to six DONA tomorrow out of Australia. Good morning
to you, Donna, good morning, condolences to your country for
what happened at BONDI.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Let's talk about the hero Ahmed. Turns out he's not
a fruit shop owner, he's a tobacco retailer.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Yes.
Speaker 14 (25:54):
Well, the hero is the forty three year old who
did move to Australia from Syria a few years back,
and he's a former cop and he wrestled that gun
from the older shooter who we know is dead now,
that fifty year old father. This man was extraordinary in
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his actions and we've heard from his parents saying that
he was just thinking of others, not himself when he
did wrestle that gun from the shooter. One million dollars
in fact, the amount is still climbing. More than one
million dollars has already been raised through a GoFundMe for
this hero, who is credited with was believed that he
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possibly saved numerous lives through his actions. Extraordinary what he did.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Any more information about the victims.
Speaker 14 (26:47):
We know that amongst the victims a ten year old girl,
a French national who was in Australia working as an engineer.
A retired police officer who was pursuing his interest in
photography was there at the at the festivities photographing and
he was killed. A Holocaust survivor two rabbis. In the
(27:10):
aftermath of what happened, there were one hundred and twenty
three paramedics out there trying to help the hurt and injured.
We know that that forty two were injured, fifteen killed,
twenty seven people are still in hospital and six are
fighting for life. We know also that the National Cabinet
met very late yesterday about gun reform and I have
(27:32):
a brief update for you. There there will be a
review of gun licenses and the acceleration of the establishment
of a National Firearms Register, which was already being established
but it was due to be completed by twenty twenty eight.
It's believed that will be brought forward. There will be
a limiting of the number of firearms owned by any
one individual and a person must be an Australian citizen
(27:54):
to have a firearm license. The PM after Cabinets has
pledged to eradicate an Semitism, hate, violence and terrorism.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And what have What have the Jewish leaders been saying, because,
of course, there is the feeling that anti Semitism rose
for a very long time in Australia and nothing was
done to prevent it.
Speaker 14 (28:12):
We have heard from many, many leaders. One Jewish leader
says that this must be a line in the sand
for Australia. Another said they've been screaming for two years
that something like this would happen. So as you can
probably tell, Australia and I know the world is in
shock in regard to what has happened.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Don't thank you so very much, Dona Tomorow out of
Australian news talks here be. It is now eleven to
six z me so, of course questions are being asked
about intelligence failures. After the Bondai Beach attack, police confirmed
that the gunman with the father and the son, Sahid
and Navid Akram and Sahid the dad dead, Navid's in
(28:54):
hospital underguard. The younger man had been on the radar
for years with extremist links and red flags, yet no
charges anywow. Benjamin Ettania, who has been quick to point
the finger.
Speaker 15 (29:03):
I sent Prime Minister Albaneze of Australia a letter in
which I gave him warning. Who did nothing to curb
the cancer cells that were growing inside your country.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
This is a moment for national unity. This is a
moment for Australians to come together.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's precisely what we will be doing as Anthony albanize.
And now joining me now is John Battersby. He's from
Massi University Center for Defense and Security Studies. John, good
morning to you.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And that was an intelligence failure, wouldn't it.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I tend to not judge things on intelligence. We call
them intelligence failures until we know exactly what's going on.
The law enforcement and intelligence capabilities in any country are
limited by the resources you put into them, and they
are successful a lot of the time in terms of
detecting things like this, but they just cannot be successful
(30:00):
all of the time. And there have been some very
well resourced intelligence agencies in Europe and the US which
these types of things have got past. So look, let's
just pull back from Intelligence Ralia right now and each
wait and see what the facts revealed.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Is it difficulty that you can't actually detain a bad
guy until a bad guy does something bad?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Well, in most democratic countries, somebody has to commit an
offense before you can arrest them. So different countries have
different setups in terms of the detection of people who
they suspect of plotting terrorist attacks. So if evidence can
be obtained that someone is planning one of these things,
a number of countries can arrest and detain. I think
(30:41):
Australia does have some pretty strong laws with that, and
they have detained people before on suspicion.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
How does australia security level compare to ours?
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Oh, significantly greater, I've always thought, But it also seems
to have a significantly bigger problem. I can't so. I think,
going back for several decades now, Australia seems to have
always had a slightly well a significantly elevated risk of
various types of terrorist attacks. You're going back to before
(31:13):
nineteen seventy eight with the Hilton bomb me, So, yeah, look,
there are levels of concern there. They have a much
stronger security aparatus than us. They have the most some
of the most significantly strong gun laws in the world.
So yeah, yeah, look they are set up I think appropriately.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
All right, John Badisby, I thank you so much for
Massi University. And there's the thing I mean, after this,
we as a country have a lot of thinking to
do about our gun laws and about our security checks.
It is now seven minutes to.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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Speaker 2 (31:59):
That'd be So we've moved on to the gun law thing.
And I said earlier, you know that guns don't kill people.
People kill people. That's the problem with gun laws. Bill
doesn't agree with me. He says guns are exactly what
killed those poor people. Yes, operated by other other less
than human people. But he's Bill says less guns mean
less shootings. And I'm not sure that I don't agree
(32:20):
with that.
Speaker 16 (32:20):
Heather, what fewer, fewer guns for God's sake.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, but it's less guns mean less shootings. Just looks better.
Speaker 16 (32:29):
No, it doesn't four four four medically correct?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Bill, Okay, but what do you reckon? I see, I
don't agree with that. I mean because Australia has fewer
guns in most other places because of what they did
after poor Arthur. We have fewer guns and many other
places it's people who are doing the killing. They shot
them with legal guns and they were legal owners, so
it's doing the people. I'll tell you the thing about that. Then,
Albanize is now talking about how many guns can someone own? Well,
(32:53):
I can, I can feel all the decent gun owners
saying that as many as we can know.
Speaker 16 (32:58):
Can I point something out to you, to your bat
alban easy that I think you have to factor and
when you consider him, the man is actually not that
good and he doesn't actually have an original thought. And
a lot of his playbook is based on what Justinda
did and has been since the start of his premiership.
So they have just copied a lot of what the
Desindada and administration. This is a straight copy, right. He's
looked at how Jacinda responded to the Mosk attacks. She
(33:20):
responded by tightening up gun laws, and he's doing exactly
the same thing. Board he's failing to understand his guns
is not well. I mean, I think he may understand
that he's failing to address the primary problem. Guns is
not their problem. Guns aren't their problem because they have
already tightened up the laws so significantly. Their problem is
something we don't have in this country, which is race relations. Right,
Their race relations are out the gate, mental bad and
(33:42):
the anti Semitism is terrible. That's actually what he needs
to address if he wants to fix this.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Problem, which is Zachly what Netting?
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Who think?
Speaker 8 (33:49):
How do you hate?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
You feel? I had a terrible day, you say, I
was quite morose because of so many videos.
Speaker 16 (33:53):
That I saw of the horror and just on social media,
on social media, so Andrew, So I don't go on
social media. Oh well, and I find that and it's
both deliberate, but it is also a function of my
life because my children are smaller and I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
But I find I.
Speaker 16 (34:09):
Spend so little time on social media. I have a
much I think better mental health situation than if I
was on it.
Speaker 13 (34:15):
So how about that being your fix?
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
All right? Just like have an easy saying about the
social media for the under sixteens.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I guess right.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Absolutely have a great show, Heather, Thank you so much,
Producer Kenzie oh Ray.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
That'd be well, good morning to you and welcome to
the program coming up over the next hour. It's high
FU time the half yearly economic financial update. So what
sort of snapshot can we expect. Brad Olson's joining me
in five minutes. There's more complaints than ever about lawyers,
So are our lawyers getting worse or are we holding
them to better account? We'll have that story in ten.
(00:33):
Some notes on Bondai through the show, and just before six,
how can we do a better job of spoorting the
bad guys? Donald Demayo will be joining us from Australia.
We'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand and news
as it breaks, and you can have your say by
sending me a text. The number is ninety two ninety two.
Small charge applies. It's seven after five the agenda, so
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it's Tuesday, the sixteenth of December. Australia's Prime Minister says
the National Cabinet has a read to tougher gun laws
after Bondai.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
By saying that the government is prepared to take whatever
action is necessary. Included in that is the need for
tougher gun laws. Tougher gun laws including limits on the
number of guns that can be used or licensed by individuals.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Meanwhile, that Bondai Beach locals have been paying respects to
the victims. Fifteen people died, including a ten year old girl,
and a further forty two people were taken to hospital.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So lucky down here, and I think that the community
is going to recover and I just hope that it
just brings all of Australians together, no matter where they
come from. And you know, we don't need to worry
about what happens overseas. Australia is somewhere that's.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know, the best place to live. Meanwhile, to the
United States that a man hunt has resumed and can
with a deadly shooting at Brown University, officials say a
person of interest is in fact going to be released
from detention.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
We know that this is likely to cause fresh anxiety
for our community and we want to reiterate what we
said earlier, which remains true, which is ever since the
initial call, now a day and a half ago. We
have not received any credible or specific threats to the
Providence community.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And finally, Hollywood director and actor Rob Reiner are meat
head in all of the family and his wife Michelle
have been found dead in their Los Angeles home. Rhiner
is known for directing several great films When Harry met
Sally This is Spinal Tap, The Princess Bride. He also
started Castle Rock, the company that made Shawshank Redemption. It's
take You to the Scene.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Police say that when they arrived they saw that there
were two bodies in the home, But what they told
us at this press conference is that they were unable
to actually go into the home because they're still waiting
to get a search warrant to go and investigate the
crime scene. So at this press conference, people are wondering,
are you looking for a suspect? Is there a suspect?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, news just throw on that police have arrested his
son Nick. He's thirty two years old. He is in
jail and on a four million dollar bail. It's nine
after five.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
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Speaker 2 (03:33):
Me, so I made of mine? Got laid off Monday
last week, May redundant, thrown on the scrap heap at
the age of sixty three, at the top of his career,
his experience and ability. Obviously, his employers must have known that,
but they needed to cut costs. So cut costs they did.
But firstly, why did they have to do that a
few weeks before Christmas? It's the worst Christmas present ever?
(03:54):
Has it happened to you? It's adding an insult on
top of injury. Now my mate has to go into
the festive cs and unsure of his future, and doubly
so because there'll be no new opportunities cropping up in January.
As the holiday season stretches on. Some may argue that
after the disappointment of losing your job, the festive season
might lift your spirits and remind you that there's more
(04:14):
to life than just your job. But others argue the
Christmas cull we see so often negatively impacts not just
the ones laid off, but also the employees left standing
in a hollowed out company. It ruins everyone's holidays and
motivation and spirits. To me, the Christmas layoffs are evidence
of a company panicking and trying to get on a
(04:34):
benefooting for the start of the calendar year. But if
they're already that far down the track, it shows a
lack of foresight. It also demonstrates the number of senior
management who don't really have a clue on how to survive,
and they then fall back on that simplistic mantra cut
costs by cutting staff. So there was a fascinating story
warding all about this in the paper over the weekend,
(04:57):
and it said the management grabs hold of redundancies and
restructs to solve problems without realizing their true costs. Redundancy
payments and restructuring costs are big and often take an
economic year to absorb. In many cases, it leaves the
company in a worse position than they were before the
cash flow crisis that so often spark these things. It
often perversely leaves them understaff for growth. Cutting staff costs
(05:21):
often cut revenue opportunities and the company is left no
better off. So if you are a boss and you're
about to play the Grinch at Christmas and become that
detested person who takes away livelihoods, take a beat have
a think and maybe think that maybe it's not the
number of staff you have or what they're paid, but
your lack of ability to make money with the ones
you've got, and maybe you should be changing that first
(05:43):
before you break an employee's heart, as it Bestrive up five.
So the Hiphu's coming up today. The government opens their
books Thursday, we find out the GDP figures. I can
tell you that economists, and there's loads of stories about this,
are expecting the third quarter to be way better than
we had hope for. So that might be some good
news on Thursday. What might happen today? Brad Olsen is
(06:06):
joining us.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
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Speaker 7 (06:19):
That'd be well.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's fourteen after five. Later today, the government's going to
open their books and let us take a look inside.
It's called the HYPHO, the half year the Economic and
Fiscal Update. How much money did the government get in
in tax and how are they spending it? It'll give
us a clearer idea of just how back on track
we are. Brad Olsen is the Inframetric's chief executive and joinsy.
(06:39):
Now hallo, Brad, good morning. So what do you reckon?
It's going to be good news or bad news. I mean,
there's a lot of people talking that the third quarter
was pretty good.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
That's right. We have started to see a number of
I guess economic indicators that have started to show a
tune up, which is important. But of course the Treasury
would have done their forecast based on what we had
up until the second quarter, which was certainly a more
challenging period for the economy. Realistically, the economic recovery that
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Treasury had been expecting through the course of twenty twenty
five hasn't been going as quickly as expected, and so
really from the high through today, we're expecting a bit
of a downgrade compared to what they said in the
budget in terms of how quickly the economic momentum is rebuilding.
And of course with that economic recovery taking longer, it
means that the government's not able to raise quite as
(07:32):
much tax revenue it's not seen as much spending or
anything else, but also has often had to incur higher expenses,
you know, higher benefit claims and similar. Long story short,
it probably means that the government has been in a forecast.
Who spend more and earn a little bit less than
we probably thought back at the budget.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
This is the thing, isn't it. The tax, the tax income,
the revenue that is, that's about where we're actually fathing.
Because you can cut costs and government spending as much
as you like, but if of course your revenue is
going down as well, you end out just standing still.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Exactly, and I mean standing still in some senses, would
still be not a bad position. As it is. We know,
and this has of course been a big point of
contention in the last couple of weeks, that we're still
effectively having to borrow to pay for ongoing spending over
the next couple of years. You know, we're in deficit.
(08:23):
The government books are in deficit until the late twenty
twenties on the government's preferred measure there the over gar x,
and of course that means that New Zealand's debt over
time continues to accumulate. Now, the difficulty and the challenge
there is that at the same time, as clearly it
would be better to be in a surplus, there is
also the difficulty of a lot of decisions that have
(08:46):
been made over the last couple of years that have
to continue to be funded unless you are willing to
take some pretty serious services and similar away from people.
That's sort of where the balancing act is. And so
one of the questions we're trying to work out for
ourselves today looking through the numbers is what does the
government do heading into an election year budget budget twenty
(09:06):
twenty six. You know, sometimes there expectations from some quarters
for more of a spend up, but if the government
books aren't looking quite as slash, there's also a reasonable
expectation that the government might say, look, we were going
to spend X amount of money, but now we're going
to spend less than that to try and keep a
bit more control there. It is a fine balancing act.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's ethie if you had to bet on Nikola versus
Ruth Hoodwin, I.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Don't like getting into that one. I mean, put it
this way, I'm a lot more interested in the actual
numbers and where they've gone. I mean, one of the
challenges of the last couple of years is given how
high wage inflation previously has been one of the reasons
you've seen an increase in government spending over the last
couple of years is because the single biggest line item,
New Zealand Super, continues to go up. I mean, Andrew,
(09:52):
we still spend more money on New Zealand Super each
and every year than the entire education budget in New Zealand.
Like in ter of making changes, that's probably the biggest discording.
You can make little nips and bucks here and there
when it comes to the budget, but really unless you're
going to hit some of those biggest spending items, and
they're generally in that sort of social area, the likes
(10:13):
of superannuation and summer, you really aren't going to touch
the sides in terms of the big spending challenges.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Thank you Brad brad Olsen from Informetrics here on New Soalks.
Heb it's eighteen minutes after five. If you want some
good news after that, I think you do. A guy
called Harley James of Becker has been talking with Tim
Murphyett Newsroom about Auckland. Beck is a business involved in
most of the infrast projects in New Zealand. Anyway, Harley
reckons that good days are coming for the Queen City.
He says the opening of the rail thing the International
(10:40):
Convention Center. That are going to be major boosts for
the economy and the region. Becker also likes the new
resource management framework and the possibility of an Auckland City
regional deal with government, and he reckons all these things
will increase Auckland's productivity. He reckons projects will be completed faster,
Aucklanders will get more bang for their bucks in their eyes.
He's also excited about the four lane motorway to Northland
and building a dry dock up there. He's going great
(11:04):
guns here, we can Zalkland. We'll go great guns next year. Becker,
by the way, very interesting company. Four thousand people, seventy
five professional service disciplines, working across thirty countries. They've been
going for one hundred and five years. Their employee owned
and they actually have a formal mechanism for bringing younger
people into the ownership structure over time. And that may
(11:24):
be so, but what I like is they see good
times coming. It is five twenty. Our lawyers worse because
complaints are up. That story is next.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
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Speaker 2 (11:43):
Be five twenty two. There's been an eleven percent spike
and complaints to the Law Society about lawyers over the
past year. Most of the thirteen hundred complaints relate to
legal negligence or incompetence. Eighty percent lead nowhere. So Julianne Kincaid,
is the vice president and of the Law Association, joins me. Now, Hello, Julienne,
good morning. So is the rise in complaints because of
(12:06):
a rise in bad lawyers or is this sore loser clients.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
I can't say why there's been a rising complaints, but
I would like to think that there would probably be
a variety of reasons there are. There's a wide spectrum
of things that people can complain about. Obviously, it goes
from an extreme end of very bad behavior of misconduct
which we cannot tolerate within the profession, through a lot
(12:35):
of things like bad communications or billing issues, and through
to right through to the other end of the spectrum,
which is a vexatious litigant client, sort of client who
will complain about every court. Yes, yes, it's a broad spectrum.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
The Law Society says people are more educated on the
lord to to check deputy and AI and that leads
to us, so are we more educated or do we
just think.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
We are a Look, I think that managing expectations is
always part of a lawyer's job and I can remember
even a long time ago, I'm a criminal lawyer in
England where people would particularly in prison, would talk to
each other and perhaps read up on the law and
then come to us and say, look, I think this,
and we have to have those conversations and we shouldn't
(13:26):
mind that. I actually welcome a client who's engaged in
doing their own research. But of course we are the
experts a little bit like if you go to the
doctor and you're going to look up your symptoms before
you go. When you go to the doctor and say
I think it's this, the doctor will then be able
to tell you because they're trained and have experienced.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So how do you make sure the lawyer you've got
is the right lawyer for you and a good one?
I mean, is there a my teacher dot com for lawyers?
Is there some way you can get advice? How do
you choose a lawyer?
Speaker 9 (13:55):
I think, personally, and this is just my personal view,
that Doyle's Guide is a good way to start, because
that is one of those databases, which is actually other
lawyers saying who's a good lawyer. I think that's the
closest thing I can think about in that area. Of course,
we all google everybody nowadays you can look up and
(14:17):
see maybe if they've done other cases, what have they
been in the papers? But not all of our work
is published. A lot of what we do is obviously
very confidential, and that's quite right. So asking around is
always the best way. If you know people that have
been through similar experiences, it's always a good web doing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And Concaid King's Counsel, thank you so much for your
time today and all your advice. By the way, there
was a legal conference in New York last week and
people were going with the rise of AI, does this
mean that lawyers are going to be unable to build
as much? And in fact the conference decern lawyers could
actually believe it more up to ten thousand dollars an
hour because we're using AI, their legal advice is going
(14:59):
to be even better. They say, all right, it is
our five twenty five Some notes about BONDI.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
News Talks, b five twenty seven. I was pretty blue yesterday.
Yesterday was a sad, morose day reflecting on what happened
in Bondai, the Jewish deaths and their horror, and it
was made worse by this never ending stream of video
coverage from every angle. Never has a massacre been as
documented and then distributed as this. It's the power of
citizens who basically have broadcast studios in their phones. Right now,
(15:33):
we have video after video spread by the very social
media that Australia banned for the under sixteenes this past week,
And we saw the victims, the dead and the dying,
and those being given CPR in their summer shorts, and
they flip flops ready for a day of family fund
by the sea. They looked like us because they are us,
(15:54):
and the father and the son. They have done remarkable,
portly fat on the life of comfort Australia has given them,
and yet they did what they did. The face of
evil is so often banal. Now are you beginning to
think these days that Winston Peters knew what he was
talking about when he refused to back a state of
Palestine earlier in the year. I was one of the
few who did agree. There is no state. There was
(16:14):
no governing authority or governance legitimacy. But underneath it all
there was no indication that the Palestinians wanted peace, and
his concern that her mass was still armed and recognition
could push her mass and their supporters to a more
hardened position. That's what Winston said. So in the wake
of the killings, there was a Jewish blok that I
saw on my phone in front of the dead and
(16:36):
the dying, and he let rip. He talked about October
the seventh, He talked about the harmas atrocity, and then
he railed about Alberanesi and all the other states and
statesmen who then sent money to Guardza and made virtue
signaling noises about state recognition and Lovererhold, what do we see?
An angry, empowered people, big grudge, still adopting a hardened position.
Benjaminette Nia, who wrote to Alberenzi back in August, He
(16:59):
warned that the moves to recognize the Palestinian state poured
fuel on the anti Semitic fire and embolden those who
menace Australian Jews and encourages the due hatred which now
stalks you a street now, was Netanyahu wrong? Apparently we
have a peace process. Obviously it's not working. Apparently the
(17:20):
endgame for the end of violence between these two faiths
is a two state solution. But can we really see
these two people co existing anytime soon? Zibb's Jane Austin's
birthday today. I'll tell you some facts and figures about that.
I want to talk about gun mows. Go to talk
to a security expert about how we can spot the
bad guys sooner. It's all still to come here on early.
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us talk said, be.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Christmas, that's the best.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
Time of the year.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I don't know Dickins, Ryan's doing drive, Heather's doing breakfast.
Happy birthday to Jane Austen. You know Jane Austin, Sense
and sensibility, pride and prejudice. Jane Austen's two hundred and
fifty years old today and still not married. She was
born to say seventeen seventy five in a town called
Steventon in Hampshire. She loved Hampshire. She's buried at Winchester Cathedral.
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Now all around the world people are going absolutely crazy
for this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. There are Regency
balls everywhere, cosplays on steroids. Men are dashing and troubled
and offered soaking wet. Women are causeted and swooning. Couples
are dancing, daring to touch the re enacting what happened
back in the eighteen hundreds. It's a celebration of romance
and gossip and plans and romantic love versus pragmatic love.
(18:55):
And yet, yeah, the whole irony is that Jane Austen,
the Queen of Romance, never married. She had a boyfriend
or two, she nearly got married. But you know, she
was absolutely beholden and ruled by her brothers because in
the early eighteen hundreds, that's what happened to women in
the early eighteen hundreds. People did not know her name.
Her books had the byline written by a lady, because
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ladies had no purchase in society in those days. They
had no vote, no money. They were nothing without their man.
So Jane's name was not known and the romance, she wrote,
was fired on by this desperation of ladies and their
parents to find a man, any man who could provide
the money to live. It was a life and death
affair and in no way romantic, and an affair that
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Jane Austen herself was never a part of. She wrote
great romance, but never had a romance herself. Really, So
the real reason to celebrate to Austin today is not
her writing of love and the politics of love, even
though the writing is fantastic. Rather it's that it's to
reflect that now things have changed and now women are
(19:58):
no longer a tattle of man. News dogs'd be now
in the country we go. Kellen Proctor from Otaga. Good
morning to you.
Speaker 10 (20:05):
Morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So tell me about the Tuhura Otago Museum.
Speaker 10 (20:11):
Well, the news out of the museum today is that
it's opening up its iconic photography competition to the nations.
So for twenty six years here this competition supported generations
of amateur photographers, only those living in Otago though, but
that's changing. From next year there's going to be a
new pop up category, Wild Rtro, which will be open
to photographers nationwide. Sure to be popular. The Museum says
(20:33):
this responds to years of interest from outside the region.
They say they're still proudly celebrating Otaga photographers, but this
just felt like the right next step.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
How's your weather?
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Showers thunderstorms Inhale this afternoon, which is becoming common in
our forecast seventeen the high today.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Thank you Chris here, we're from christ Roach. Good morning,
Good morning. So the christ Rich disability community are putting
on a sitcom.
Speaker 11 (20:57):
Yeah, this is fun, just as we have the special
Olympics hosted here in christ Church at the moment, of course,
we've got this new sitcom which is by the Inclusive
Performance Academy. I've created a show called people Like Us,
following a group of friends with disabilities as well as
their support workers. It's modeled on the cast's favorite sitcom Friends.
Director Fiona mackenzie says, with a disability, you do spend
(21:20):
a lot of time as an audience member and there's
not a lot of opportunity to be front and center
and the entertainer. So that's what this is all about.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
She says.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
It's not a show about disability as such, but the
disability is there throughout and that has never been the
case before. Mackenzie says this show is part fantasy, part
scripted comedy, also a bit of brutal reality, with the
cast finding themselves in circumstances every day that just wouldn't
happen to ordinary people.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You could write about it, Kenya, and they'll make us laugh. Now,
what's the weather like?
Speaker 11 (21:52):
Mostly cloudy today, We could see some thundery, hail and
showers a bit later tonight. Northwesterly, strong at times and
the maximum will be twenty five.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
The gardens will be happy. Next toll from Wellington, Good
morning to you.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So Wellington's getting a new brewery. Not that you needed
much more, No, No, we've.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
Had a few closes this year in fact in the
craft beer beers in Wellington. So some positive news to
when twenty twenty five. Not amost a new brewery, but
one expanding from New Plymouth. That's Three Sisters, quite a
highly regarded brewery. It's expanding to Wellington, opening a new
side on Blair Streets off Courtney Place. Investors apparently are
feeling good. They want to expand also in New Plymouth
(22:33):
Shining Peak and that maybe by Shade, the best known
brewery in the city and that already expanded to christ
Church and Sumner. Recently, the owner of Three Sisters believes
Wellington is well near the bottom economically looking up rather
than still in a period of decline.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So some good news there.
Speaker 12 (22:51):
Generally speaking, I wouldn't say the craft beer bubble has
necessarily burst. Garrett's project is still thriving. They took over
the Fortune Favors space this year. Hospital and Z is
feeling good and some good news now with Three Sisters
on the way shortly early next year.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Good names too. Hey, how's your weather?
Speaker 12 (23:08):
A period of rain from mid morning and strong northerlies
nineteen the hay and.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I thank you very much andiew aw come we go
Wendy Petrick morning to morning. So tell me about the
Splaw Festival, which is one of the favorites. It wasn't
here last year. They have financial difficulties last year that
took a two year break, but it's back this year.
So what's the news, Well, yes, this is it.
Speaker 13 (23:26):
Explore has announced it'll come to an end next year
after hopes of a government lifeline fell through. So next
year's installment of the annual Boutique of Music and Arts
Festival at Auckland's at Tappa Tappa Kanga Regional Park were
the last due to low ticket sales in recent years. Now,
longtime owner John Minty says they weren't considered for the
government's seventy million dollar Major Events funds. He says he
(23:48):
spent three weeks on the application and thought they had
a good cause. He says it's a bit of a
worry that funding isn't going towards events that showcase New
Zealand talent.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So that is the end of the stage and overseas
town I know roycecop coming. They're very good band, and
Nightmares on Wax are a very good band as well.
It's a great thing. Six stages anyway. How's Awkin's weather?
Speaker 13 (24:07):
Well, all, it looks like the good weather's coming to
an end, doesn't it rain? From late afternoon briefly heavy,
then clearing tonight northerly strong at times this afternoon changing
to southwesterly. We still have a warm high though, twenty
six degrees.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Wendy, I thank you. It is now seventeen minutes to six,
So we're about to talk to Donald Toveyo out of
Australia about Bondi and we're about to talk to an
defense expert about spotting the bad guys. The other thing
that happened after BONDI of course immediately it's the playbook
now and to Sinder did it? Howard did it? After
Port Arthur? It's gun control now on guns. The weapons
(24:43):
used by the father and son in Bondai were legally obtained.
They were long guns, hunting guns, not military style semi
automatic weapons. If they had military style semi automatic weapons,
there would have been significantly more fatalities. So these legal
guns held by i llegal owner. It's a reminder that
guns don't kill people. People kill people. So now Russia,
(25:08):
so now Australia is rushing to strengthen gun laws and
the thrust will be making sure the wrong people don't
have guns full stop. And this, of course will feel
like an affront to decent gun owners. But maybe they
could tell us how you could stop the wrong people
having guns, because all the people who don't have guns
still feel threatened. It is sixteen to.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Six International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Fourteen to six DONA tomorrow out of Australia. Good morning
to you, Donna, good morning, condolences to your country for
what happened at BONDI.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Let's talk about the hero Ahmed. Turns out he's not
a fruit shop owner, he's a tobacco retailer.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Yes.
Speaker 14 (25:54):
Well, the hero is the forty three year old who
did move to Australia from Syria a few years back,
and he's a former cop and he wrestled that gun
from the older shooter who we know is dead now,
that fifty year old father. This man was extraordinary in
(26:15):
his actions and we've heard from his parents saying that
he was just thinking of others, not himself when he
did wrestle that gun from the shooter. One million dollars
in fact, the amount is still climbing. More than one
million dollars has already been raised through a GoFundMe for
this hero, who is credited with was believed that he
(26:36):
possibly saved numerous lives through his actions. Extraordinary what he did.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Any more information about the victims.
Speaker 14 (26:47):
We know that amongst the victims a ten year old girl,
a French national who was in Australia working as an engineer.
A retired police officer who was pursuing his interest in
photography was there at the at the festivities photographing and
he was killed. A Holocaust survivor two rabbis. In the
(27:10):
aftermath of what happened, there were one hundred and twenty
three paramedics out there trying to help the hurt and injured.
We know that that forty two were injured, fifteen killed,
twenty seven people are still in hospital and six are
fighting for life. We know also that the National Cabinet
met very late yesterday about gun reform and I have
(27:32):
a brief update for you. There there will be a
review of gun licenses and the acceleration of the establishment
of a National Firearms Register, which was already being established
but it was due to be completed by twenty twenty eight.
It's believed that will be brought forward. There will be
a limiting of the number of firearms owned by any
one individual and a person must be an Australian citizen
(27:54):
to have a firearm license. The PM after Cabinets has
pledged to eradicate an Semitism, hate, violence and terrorism.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And what have What have the Jewish leaders been saying, because,
of course, there is the feeling that anti Semitism rose
for a very long time in Australia and nothing was
done to prevent it.
Speaker 14 (28:12):
We have heard from many, many leaders. One Jewish leader
says that this must be a line in the sand
for Australia. Another said they've been screaming for two years
that something like this would happen. So as you can
probably tell, Australia and I know the world is in
shock in regard to what has happened.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Don't thank you so very much, Dona Tomorow out of
Australian news talks here be. It is now eleven to
six z me so, of course questions are being asked
about intelligence failures. After the Bondai Beach attack, police confirmed
that the gunman with the father and the son, Sahid
and Navid Akram and Sahid the dad dead, Navid's in
(28:54):
hospital underguard. The younger man had been on the radar
for years with extremist links and red flags, yet no
charges anywow. Benjamin Ettania, who has been quick to point
the finger.
Speaker 15 (29:03):
I sent Prime Minister Albaneze of Australia a letter in
which I gave him warning. Who did nothing to curb
the cancer cells that were growing inside your country.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
This is a moment for national unity. This is a
moment for Australians to come together.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's precisely what we will be doing as Anthony albanize.
And now joining me now is John Battersby. He's from
Massi University Center for Defense and Security Studies. John, good
morning to you.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And that was an intelligence failure, wouldn't it.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I tend to not judge things on intelligence. We call
them intelligence failures until we know exactly what's going on.
The law enforcement and intelligence capabilities in any country are
limited by the resources you put into them, and they
are successful a lot of the time in terms of
detecting things like this, but they just cannot be successful
(30:00):
all of the time. And there have been some very
well resourced intelligence agencies in Europe and the US which
these types of things have got past. So look, let's
just pull back from Intelligence Ralia right now and each
wait and see what the facts revealed.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Is it difficulty that you can't actually detain a bad
guy until a bad guy does something bad?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Well, in most democratic countries, somebody has to commit an
offense before you can arrest them. So different countries have
different setups in terms of the detection of people who
they suspect of plotting terrorist attacks. So if evidence can
be obtained that someone is planning one of these things,
a number of countries can arrest and detain. I think
(30:41):
Australia does have some pretty strong laws with that, and
they have detained people before on suspicion.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
How does australia security level compare to ours?
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Oh, significantly greater, I've always thought, But it also seems
to have a significantly bigger problem. I can't so. I think,
going back for several decades now, Australia seems to have
always had a slightly well a significantly elevated risk of
various types of terrorist attacks. You're going back to before
(31:13):
nineteen seventy eight with the Hilton bomb me, So, yeah, look,
there are levels of concern there. They have a much
stronger security aparatus than us. They have the most some
of the most significantly strong gun laws in the world.
So yeah, yeah, look they are set up I think appropriately.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
All right, John Badisby, I thank you so much for
Massi University. And there's the thing I mean, after this,
we as a country have a lot of thinking to
do about our gun laws and about our security checks.
It is now seven minutes to.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Six the first Word on the News of the Day
early edition with Adre Dickins and r V super Center
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Speaker 2 (31:59):
That'd be So we've moved on to the gun law thing.
And I said earlier, you know that guns don't kill people.
People kill people. That's the problem with gun laws. Bill
doesn't agree with me. He says guns are exactly what
killed those poor people. Yes, operated by other other less
than human people. But he's Bill says less guns mean
less shootings. And I'm not sure that I don't agree
(32:20):
with that.
Speaker 16 (32:20):
Heather, what fewer, fewer guns for God's sake.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, but it's less guns mean less shootings. Just looks better.
Speaker 16 (32:29):
No, it doesn't four four four medically correct?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Bill, Okay, but what do you reckon? I see, I
don't agree with that. I mean because Australia has fewer
guns in most other places because of what they did
after poor Arthur. We have fewer guns and many other
places it's people who are doing the killing. They shot
them with legal guns and they were legal owners, so
it's doing the people. I'll tell you the thing about that. Then,
Albanize is now talking about how many guns can someone own? Well,
(32:53):
I can, I can feel all the decent gun owners
saying that as many as we can know.
Speaker 16 (32:58):
Can I point something out to you, to your bat
alban easy that I think you have to factor and
when you consider him, the man is actually not that
good and he doesn't actually have an original thought. And
a lot of his playbook is based on what Justinda
did and has been since the start of his premiership.
So they have just copied a lot of what the
Desindada and administration. This is a straight copy, right. He's
looked at how Jacinda responded to the Mosk attacks. She
(33:20):
responded by tightening up gun laws, and he's doing exactly
the same thing. Board he's failing to understand his guns
is not well. I mean, I think he may understand
that he's failing to address the primary problem. Guns is
not their problem. Guns aren't their problem because they have
already tightened up the laws so significantly. Their problem is
something we don't have in this country, which is race relations. Right,
Their race relations are out the gate, mental bad and
(33:42):
the anti Semitism is terrible. That's actually what he needs
to address if he wants to fix this.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Problem, which is Zachly what Netting?
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Who think?
Speaker 8 (33:49):
How do you hate?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
You feel? I had a terrible day, you say, I
was quite morose because of so many videos.
Speaker 16 (33:53):
That I saw of the horror and just on social media,
on social media, so Andrew, So I don't go on
social media. Oh well, and I find that and it's
both deliberate, but it is also a function of my
life because my children are smaller and I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
But I find I.
Speaker 16 (34:09):
Spend so little time on social media. I have a
much I think better mental health situation than if I
was on it.
Speaker 13 (34:15):
So how about that being your fix?
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
All right? Just like have an easy saying about the
social media for the under sixteens.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I guess right.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Absolutely have a great show, Heather, Thank you so much,
Producer Kenzie oh Ray.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
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