December 16, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Andrew Dickens Full Show Podcast Wednesday the 17th of December 2025, The Government's books are worse than expected, with the surplus timeline pushed back to 2029/30, Labour Economic Spokesperson Barbara Edmonds shares her thoughts.
Transport, environment and housing are being merged in to one ministry, Transporting NZ Chief Executive Officer Dom Kalasih tells Andrew what he thinks of the idea.
There are concerns about the integrity of our elections after a South Auckland local body result was thrown out over claims of voter fraud, Transparency International NZ CEO Julie Hague shares her thoughts.
Plus, UK/ Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey has the latest on the jail sentencing for man who used his car to plough into more than 130 people at Liverpool Football Club and Donald Trump suing the BBC for defamation.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
That'd be Welcome morning, Welcome to the program, Thank you
so much for choosing us. We're here for the next hour.
And coming up. Dodgy electoral practices involving voter fraud has
meant to result in the recent local body elections has
been voided. What the hell went down and how can
we avoid this in the future? That story in five minutes.
We've got a new mega ministry. It's called m SERT.
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Can you come up with a better name? The Ministry
for Cities, Environments, Regions and Transport. But what is the
problem that's trying to solve and is it the answer?
And breaking news the country has broke and therefore just
before sex, what would Barbara Edmonds and labor do differently?
We'll have these stories plus corresponders from right around New
zeal And, Gavin Gray out of the UK, and news
(00:52):
as it breaks and you can have your say on
the text. Ninety two ninety two is a number. Small
charge applies at seven after five. Well's Wednesday the seventeenth
of December, three more Bondai shooting victims have been named.
Here's a tragedy. The couple happy named Boris and Sophia German.
(01:12):
They were killed at the hannukaer attack that they're fifteen
ded They tried to stop the gunman. They actually grabbed
the gun, but they got shot for their trouble. Edith
Brupman has been named Dash came by way shows Boris
and Sophia trying to stop the gunman as they got
out of the car. Some of the other victims include
forty one year old Eli Schlanger, French national Dan el Kaim,
(01:32):
Holocaust survivor Alexander Klaytman, former police officer Peter Mayer, and
ten year old Matilda, who broke our hearts and broke
all the hearts at the Bondai service.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
A happy kid.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You know some kids, they may be shy, they may
be afraid of you or something.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
She was open, hard, openheart anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
She she was like a son and police are probing
a pre attack trip to the Philippines by the father
and son gunman, including claims of military style training. No
evidence of collusion.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
There's no evidence that these people were part of a cell.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Clearly they were motivated by this extremist ideology. Now he
said he could do it, and he's gone and done it.
This is Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
You'll be seeing.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I'm suing the BBC for putting words in my mouth
literally and to put words.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
In my mouth.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
They had me saying things that I never said coming out.
I guess they used AI or something. So we'll be
bringing that lass. A lot of people were asking, why
are you bringing that lawsuit? Even the media can't believe
that one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, he's done it. He filed a five billion US
dollar lawsuit against the BBC over that edit of his
sixth January twenty twenty one speech in a Panorama documentary,
and Donald Trump's accused the broad caster of defamation and
of violating a trade practices law. The BBC says, well,
we're going to defend that. And now finally some Lizzo
(02:58):
So Pop souers elebrating a legal victory after a judge
dismissed allegations of fat shaming. This is a twenty twenty
three lawsuit filed by three of her former dancers who
she called fat. While those specific allegations have been dropped,
the case against Lizzo and her production company will continue
overclaims that the three dancers were subject to sexual harassment.
It's nine after five.
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Speaker 2 (03:30):
That'd be all right, here's the moment I go for Grandpa.
I went for a walk yesterday just before the storm
came in. It was a beautiful walk. It was a
nice and warm and I saw two men working on
the most magnificent garden. So it's our main road. It's
on a slope facing the road. It's very very visible.
It's very very architectural. Nine shrubs cut into giant toperary balls.
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It's amazing, the precision of the work, the dramatic mass
of box cut hedges around it, rock gardens and stairs
and concrete benches, all top off with four magnificent cypresses.
It's our work of art that we can all share.
From the road. And I caught the eye of one
of the professional gardeners, and I point it to the
gardener and gave them two thumbs up. In a chef's kiss,
and he smiled a big smile, gave me a thumbs up.
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And that was a man proud of his work, a
job well done, a beautiful garden we can all enjoy.
And I do like fantastic gardens by the road. They
make a suburbs sing, don't they. It's a gift to
the community. I tend two gardens. One's a little one
and one's a big one. I've been working on them
a lot recently, getting them ready for Christmas. And if
I invited you round today, you'd say, oh, Andrew, nice garden,
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and I'd be proud, and I'd be happy to make
you happy. And I say this because as I drive
to work, I drive through a state house area, an
old fashioned one, you know, with those three bedroom wooden
boxes set on grass fields. There are no plantings, there
is no garden, and the grass is often long and
uncared for. There's junk in the grass, there's cars in
the grass. There's maybe one or two lost children in
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the grass. If I lived in such an environment, I
be on the booze or the gear as well. And
I have no idea why our state house areas are
so often so desolate. Why the tenants who have been
offered this lifeline take no pride in the property. You know,
if I was a state, I'd give you some tools
and say check you every six months have you done
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some gardening? And check also that you haven't sold the
tools for a slab of beer. The state of your
garden is a reflection of your soul and pride and
ambition and care for the community. It can be done
very cheap, so go and do it for everybody's mental
health wellbeing. Twelve after five. I couldn't believe the story
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yesterday about a local body result being thrown out over
claims of voter fraud. What country do we live in?
What country do we live in? Anyway? So what happened
in this electorate? And is there anything we can do
about it? We'll talk to the CEO of Transparency International,
New Zealand next here on Newstalks MB. It's twelve after
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five on.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
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Speaker 2 (06:15):
B All right, it is now forteen minutes after five.
There are concerns about the integrity of our elections. After
a South Auckland local body result was thrown out over
claims of voter fraud, Amnico judge found irregularities in the
Puppet Toy Toy subdivision that affected the result. That means
a new election has to be held next year. Investigators
say seventy nine votes were cast without the voter's knowledge,
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some allegedly taken straight from the mailboxes. Julie Hagey as
the CEO of Transparency International New Zealand, and joins you
now goombording.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
To you, Julie, good morning.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is pretty concerning. Really, we haven't really heard much
of this sort of thing in the past.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
No, that's right. I think this is a very unusual case.
There have been complaints to judges, but none's actually none
has actually resulted in a an overturning of an election
as far as I could look back, as far as
I could see, So it's it is really an unusual case.
And I have to say I haven't seen the decision
of the complaint and no charge has been laid, but
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though there are two investigations underway, so I can talk
about its publicly available in the media.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay, Well, it's interesting. It's interesting when they've looked at
seventy nine votes four the four councilors who got onto
the board all got on with majorities between twelve hundred
and two thousand. Would seventy nine irregular votes actually affecting
a result?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, I mean, I think that what the judge said
was that there was an indication that there might be more,
and that this was just the ones they opened, and
they found that a high portion of them had been
were actually voted for the group of the group, and
so they said there's likely to be it's likely to
be a bigger problem. And so I think that's the
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biggest issue. The threshold they have to get to under
the Local Literal Act, judge has to get to to
look at avoiding a result, and he got to that,
and that's that's a high threshold. So it's not it's
clearly there's a range of issues. We don't know them
all yet, but clearly there's a range of problems.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Do you recogmen, there's more electorates and more elections that
are affected by the sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Oh well, no, I don't see evidence. We've got pretty
good systems and in this election there's been several challenges
to the district Court and quite a few of them
have been overturned because they hadn't met that three shold.
So I think there is a process for people to
go through. It probably needs in this select committee that
looked into the last local abody election, the previous local
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body election, said thinks there are some changes that need
to be made the law to strengthen it and to
increase the penalties. But it does seem to be picking up.
That's a good thing about this is that a person
made the made the effort to go to make a
district court inquiry to position for that and.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
Got a result.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So that's that's a good thing. There's a good thing
about our system.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Random mission. Well, I was going to say, you could
say it was caught, and you know, it was caught
and the result was thrown out and that shows in
a way that our system is working. But it was
only caught because Viv House here, who's the deputy chairman
of the board, actually had some concerns and brought the complaint.
So is the system really working or do we need
whistleblowers like Viv Well?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I think it does, it doesn't. We do need people.
Is your right to say we don't think this voting
process has been run correctly. It's not just about somebody
above that finding it out. So everybody has got to
write to do that in relation to their voter, in
relation to their who voted for them or who didn't
vote for them. They've got a right to get that.
There's there's problems with the timing. They have to get
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it through very quickly, so that's a that's an issue
with timing. But it is that system does seem to
be does seem to have held up in this case,
although we now need to see the police investigations are underway.
What really matters is that if there has been malfis
what's happening here, people are actually held to account, and
that's the real nub of this. It might be harder
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to prove, but I'm hopeful that the police are putting
good energy into the those investigations.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Thank you so much, Julie Hagey, And of course I
mentioned of iv Housier. Hausier is on with Ever after
six o'clock to day to talk about what she found
and the process she went through, text through saying I've
just listened to your insults in regard to State House tenants.
Your comments were rude and ignorant and deliberately designed to
incite stereotypes and discrimination. I'm sorry, just do your gardens?
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Is that too much to ask? It's five nineteen. We
have brand new ministry. It's called MSERT, needs a better name.
You can text me your ideas ninety two ninety two.
This is a big murder of the I'll tell you
more about this after the break. We're going to talk
to a FELLO from Transporting New Zealand about whether this
is a good move.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
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Speaker 3 (11:00):
They'd be five.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Twenty one gone in other days when we're going to
have separate ministries for transport, the environment and housing, they're
all going to be merged into one mega ministry called MSERT,
the Ministry for Cities, Environment, Regions and Transport. So let's
talk to Don Callacy, who is the CEO of Transporting
New Zealand, and of course the new ministry will affect
his sector.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
Hello Don, morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Are you happy with this? News or is it or whatever.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
I think that there is some sensibility to it. You know,
I think navigating across different ministries and agencies can be difficult,
So sometimes having less is small and ultimately transports one
part of a larger ecosystem, and so you know, taking
a more unified, connected approach does make some sense.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Okay, Well, transport has an awful lot of work in
front of it, the transition to electronic road user charges
and congestion pricing, and there's a whole lot of technical
work as well, and now it's being merged into one
big mega ministry where they're thinking about other stuff as well.
Are you worried that that sort of work might actually
not be done as efficiently as when you had a
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dedicated ministry of transport.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
I think there is a risk, and that is something
we're worried about. We've just sort of started to get
some momentum in those areas and we don't want to
lose that. But look, in terms of a mega ministry,
I had a quick look last night, and from what
I can gather, bringing those three ministries together, plus you've
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got some from DIA, you're probably looking at about thirteen
hundred maybe forteen hundred people at the most. But if
you look at other agencies and ministries, mby's got about
six thousand people. MDPA has got about three thousand people.
So you know, big organizations like this there already exists,
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is there, working to various degrees of success. It is
what it is, and we'll be doing everything we can
to help the new ministry.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Good Man, good commenttion. I thank you so much as
Don Calassy from transporting New Zealand's but he's quite right
about MB Okay. MB has a problem. It's a mega
ministry and nobody knows who's reporting to who. It's very messy.
So will this one be exactly the same as MB
even though it will be smaller. Remember, under this ministry
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they've got RMA reform and transport reforms that we've just
heard about to get through. Do they have the capacity
to get that right? Here's the thing about though it's
not reducing the amount of ministers, nor can anyone tell
me that it automatically means a dramatic reduction in the
number of public servants and their salaries, which, of course
a lot of people are wanting right now to help
the books. As sir Brian Roach reported this week we
have a massive public service sixty two, six hundred and
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fifty four staff in June of this year, compared to
sixty five six hundred ninety nine at the peak, which
is back in twenty twenty three. We've still got nearly
sixty three one thousand public servants. We've got forty three departments,
departmental agencies into departmental executive boards of various sizes and mandates,
all operating right now, more than most small advanced economies. Can.
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We manage costs at the moment, Sir Brian says, no,
maintain critical capacity no, and deliver joined up services with
a system perspective.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And here we are making an even bigger one. It
is five twenty four.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
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Speaker 2 (14:30):
These Talks it B five twenty six. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
we're broke. The half year the government fiscal update shows
we're still in debt and the debt is getting bigger.
So we're broke. Not enough money, everything's more expensive, so
it's off to the money lender before the bailiffs come
in and sell everything. Sounds like a lot of households
around me. Idealy, of course we'll be in surplus. That
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will mean we have raised enough money to actually pay
our way. Then we'd have more money than costs. But
we act and the possibility of that happening has got
further away. So make no misas sake. Deficit is bad,
but surplus actually that's only just okay, that's how bad
we are, and we're getting more and more into debt.
The government has a debt to GDP ratio of forty
one point eight percent. It used to be twenty nine,
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and it's forecast to rise to over forty six percent
before it starts going down. But you can just say
we're broke. Simple, easy, let's put another lens on it. Though.
The New Zealand government has posted a surplus seventeen times
since nineteen eighty. That's seventeen times and forty five years.
So the government has been broken, had to run off
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to the money lenders sixty two percent of the time
since nineteen eighty, being broke as our normal. And if
I applied the surplus deficit debt ratio to my own finances,
then I've been broke most of my adult life. I
mean hello, who hasn't had a debt to equity ratio
of ninety five percent in their lives. So if you
look at that at that way, it's not so bad.
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And we're still on the right half of the indebted
nations list because everyone's broke. I think sometimes we're a
bit naive when we demand surpluses about just how hard
it is to do. If you listen to Stephen Joyce
on Heather's show yesterday, he said government books are hard
to turn. Like a super tanker. As he said yesterday,
it can take up to a decade to go from
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deficit to surplus. But some of us think, oh, a
few public service cuts and cuts to benefits and we'll
be tickety boot. Our fiscal crisis is far more fundamental
than that, and that the problem is we don't make
enough money in this world to fix it. We need
to make more money in the world so we have
more tax revenue, so we can then afford the good
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stuff and the necessary stuff, and so we don't have
to have debt. So my question to you is, what
are you doing there standing here listening to this. Get
to work, make more money, said be five twenty nine.
So I got stuck into State House gardens and I
got insulted. Graham agrees with me, though agree with your
granddad moment. If someone is good enough to have a
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house for you to live in state or private, then
it's a good form to look after it and the grounds.
And unfortunately, in this modern time, a thing called entitlement,
combined with laziness and arrogance, create a whole lot of
airheaded people who like living in their own mess and
expect everybody else to clean it up. Thank you, Graham,
And Taylor says Andrew, you can make even a muddy
pig look okay if you just wash it. My partner
and I live down a cul de sac driveway. We
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get out and always tidy the shared gardens on the
shared driveway. It doesn't take a lot, makes everything look better.
We even water blasted the fence for everyone. People don't
seem to have much pride in their space, Thank you, Taylor.
And that's true. Still on the way, Barbara Edmonds from Labor,
how would she run the economy better? Well, there's a
big question.
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Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well outside is prideful, but the fire is so delightful.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And since we've no place.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
To go, it's snow.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
Let it snow.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Let it still, well it does. We're sitting a cold
bunch of air coming over the country right now, but
I ain't gonna snow. I never know why we play
songs like this in New Zealand when it's summer, but
there we go. Let us know that it's no merry
Christmas to you all. So we've been a bit negative
of what with the fact that the country's broken, me
complaining about the state of state house cardens or by
the way Texas says regarding the state housing, perhaps a
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competition could be instigated with a prize offered for the
best cap grounds with maybe a rent production. I think
that's great and I'd like to see the pictures. Here
is the best kept state house by a tenant, and
this person gets a month free win. How about that?
I don't know anyway, So I thought you might need
some good news here some good news. The Sir Colin
Giltrap Raceway, a world class karting facility in Auckland, is
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officially opening The track builds on our carting heritage because
we're so good at the karting and the track will
be opened by six car six time IndyCar Chapian Scott
Dixon fifty nine career wins first QUI to win the
Indy five hundred. Scott Dixon is in with Heather. Here's
to Sir Colin Giltrap and his family with what they've
done in terms of giving back with their money, in
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terms of facilities and helping people. You know, Liam Lawson
wouldn't be anywhere without Colin, So thank you so much
to the Giltrap family for what you've done and can't
wait to see this world class carting facility in Auckland.
Have more about It TV and said meanwhile, has released
what it's biggest shows were ever the year. Not surprisingly,
One News was its biggest. They reckon seventy percent of
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all key we saw One News but at number two spot,
Shouldn't I Country Calendar, the country's longest running television series.
Both One News and Hundai Country Calendar have been in
the top three shows in all New Zealand television since
twenty seventeen. Because we like a bit of news and
we love the country Farmers, We love you. Oh and finally,
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speaking of New Zealand, Wellington Avatar Avatar made in New Zealand.
The reviews are out and they're a bit lukewarm, fair
to say. The one I like the most was which
he knew sex interests can't save this gigantically dull hunger
of nonsense. It's twenty one to six news talks 'd
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be in the country. We go Callen Proctor from Motago.
Good morning to you morning Andrew. If you need urgent
twenty four to seven care, You've got a new facility, Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 11 (20:19):
A new service opens today here in Doneda. It's the
Daneedan Urgent Doctors and Accident Center. It will give locals
round the clock healthcare support and access. It's part of
the government one hundred and sixty four million dollar investment
to improve urgent and after our services. So Danieda Miyors
Sophie Barker is happy with this. She says the region's
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growing population and student culture means these services are urgent,
and she says she knows from her own experience, especially
from her student days waiting in A and E, and
that people need shorter wait times to receive better care.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
All right, how's your weather call it today?
Speaker 11 (20:55):
Here early morning shower or two southwesterly sixteen the high.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And who can go clear shure with from christ Church?
Good morning, good morning. You've got a new art exhibition
to visit.
Speaker 12 (21:05):
Yeah, and we do, and it's bank See. We've got
more than one hundred and fifty original artworks from the
world famous street artist on display over summer at Tipei
Convention Center here in christ Church. The exhibit has traveled
to more than twenty cities, but this is the first
time it's come to the South Island. Curator and producer
Michelle Borschma says the original flower thrower artwork will be
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on show. There's also some installations that provide insight into
Banksy's creative process. As a hub for street art, christ
Church is said to be the best city to host
a displayed like this. The venue has made it one
of the best versions they've done on the tour. Borschmar
says to have an over of one artist in one
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space is very unique and this is what they would
consider a museum grade exhibition on tour.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Now, it's quite good. I went and I bought a
T shirt when it was in Auckland. Now, how do
you weather a little bit more like winter here?
Speaker 12 (22:02):
This morning We've got Shaoer's thundery bit of hail about
then turning to a heavier rain. Some southwesterlies will ease
by this evening. The high only seventeen.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Not t shirt weather Maxtell from Wellington, Good morning to
you morning. VIC University is officially AI friendly.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
This is the annual academic ranking of world universities, also
known as the Shanghai Ranking, which has put Victoria in
the top fifty in terms of being AI friendly of
graduates being ready to work in or with AI A
Singaporean institute number one, a Chinese Uni two, Toronto three.
Apparently Vick has been making a concerted push in the
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past few years to focus on AI, make sure it's
incorporated into different studies. One tech expert tolus. Companies often
have to look offshore for expertise, but that's certainly been
growing in the capital. A lot of people in the
public sector using AI more and more to positive and
negative effect. Newly created roles as well in the tertiary
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sector in this country is having to respond to that demand.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
All right, how's your weather.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Another wet day with stronger southerly so cool fifteen the hay.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And I thank you. Wendy Pittrick now joins me from
AUKLANDHALLO Wendy for inner. Oh we're talking about rubbish collection.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Oh, I know it's an exciting topic, isn't it. Rubbish
Auckland a council is trashing a plan to trial a
fortnightly rubbish collection, but the idea hasn't been removed from
the picture now. The trial would have included ten thousand
households in Tiata two Peninsula, Palma, Tamakie, Clinton Park and Weymouth.
Of the more than five thousand submissions, seventy eight percent
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actually opposed trialing a fortnightly rubbish collection. Councilor Daniel Newman
says the possibility of fortnite collection lives on in the
current waste management minimization plan. He says he and other
counselors will try to permanently move the region to a
weekly service next year. So I guess we'll just have
to wait.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Do you fill your rubbish bin every week?
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Well? I yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Actually no, we're about free court. We're about seventy five percent.
Sometimes We've got a low rubbish week where it's only fifty,
but other times we're packed, I know, so every fortnight
I think we'd be spilling out.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah, I mean I admire people that do manage to
have hardly any rubbish. So we do try.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Orkan's weather.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Oh wow, looking at a few cloudy periods with a
few showers today, mainly in the morning, though southwesterlyis will
be strong in the afternoon. Heading for twenty degrees and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I thank you. It is seventeen minutes to six still
to come. Before six o'clock. We are talking with Barbara Edmunds,
of course, the finance spokesperson for the Labor Party, about
what she would do differently. Could she really do anything differently?
Craig sent me a text, Andrew, why doesn't Barbara Edmonds
also take responsibility for our government running deficits. She needs
to remember the borrowing and spending that Labor did when
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they were in government. They spent like drunken sailors. And
this is also the recent our economy is in such
a state. And then there's four exclamation marks. But as
I put it out, Craig, in the last forty five years,
who only ever had seventeen surpluses. We've always been spending
like drunken sailors. It's just that labour's bit more anyway.
Barbara is here very shortly, but nixt Gavin Gray from
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the UK.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
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Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yes, it's now forteen minutes to sixth to the UK
with Gavin greg Good morning to you hither and so
what's happened to the bloke who uses car as a
whip and he plowed into more than one hundred and
thirty people at Liverpool's football club's victory parade.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yes, back in twenty six of May. This was a
fifty four year old former Royal Marine was sitting in
doc and showed no emotion. Was He was sentenced and
jailed for twenty one years and six months. He plowed
his vehicle into more than one hundred and thirty people
at the victory parade. He admitted thirty one charges, including
(25:48):
causing grievous bodily harm with intent and dangerous driving and
a fray. The victims ranged from a six month old
baby to a seventy seven year old woman. Now, the
judge and the caught her that the married father of
three was traveling into the city center to collect friends
from that parade when he lost his temper and then
(26:09):
drove his forward Galaxy car directly into supporters dashcom footage
was played in court. It was horrendous. It accelerated down
Water Street, which had been closed for traffic, and in
the footage it can be heard shouting move, move and
swearing at the crowd, including after he hit a ten
year old girl who when no defects in the car.
He was not under the influence of drink or drugs
(26:31):
and only recently changed his plea.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So he didn't get angry at the Liverpool team, did he?
He got angry just because the parade was in his way.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I just think, you know, he just that was never
really clearly explained in the court. He just got angry
and the red miss came down and then for some
reason cloud into the crowd.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh right, speaking of angry Donald Trump versus the BBC.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, this could be an expensive few months for the BBC.
He has now launched a five billion US dollar so
that's roughly eight billion New Zealand dollar lawsuit filed by
him because of an edit over his speech January twenty
twenty one. Now that was ahead of the twenty twenty
(27:16):
four US election, and it was on the day that
there were riots at the US Capitol. So in full,
he basically says, look, they cheated the BBC. A change
the words that came out of his mouth. What came
out of his mouth Andrew was quote, We're going to
walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer
on our brave senators and congressmen and women. Fifty minutes
(27:39):
later he said, and we fight, We fight like hell.
But the Panorama documentary program by the BBC showed a
clip with him which connected the two in this way.
It said We're going to walk down to the Capitol,
I'll be there with you, and we fight. We fight
like hell, making it seem like he was, of course
promoting or inviting people to fight, which he says that
(27:59):
absolutely is not his intention. So this very expensive lawsuit,
the BBC say they will defend. They said there was
no malice in the edit and that he was reelected
shortly after. They had a whole load of excuses. We'll
wait to see where this leaves for the BBC.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
They have to defend it. It's their entire name and honor,
and I Thankgavin Gray from the UK. By the way,
I just want to mention the couple in the dash
cam footage out of Bandai who were killed trying to
fight off the Bondai shooter. They've been identified as Boris
and Sofia German. The footage you may have seen it
shows the moment that Boris tackled the shooter, said Akram
wrestled the gun from him, but it was all for
(28:35):
nothing because the second gunman killed Boris and Sofia in
cold blood. We don't have one hero on this day.
We've certainly have three, and we probably have more. It
is now ten to.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Six News Talk Siddy.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
All right, We've got the treasuries half year scorecard yesterday.
It's not pretty. The government's books are worse than expected.
The surplus timeline has been pushed back a bit to
twenty nine thirty. That's back a year. The deficit blows
out to nearly fourteen billion dollars, one point eight billion
worse than back in May. So Nichola Wis was quick
to defend herself.
Speaker 13 (29:08):
We had the receipts and unfortunately for labor having opposed
every saving that we have delivered. They cannot take a
position of responsible fiscal management.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
So Labor's economics spokesperson Barbara Vans is with us. Hello Barbara,
good morning Andrew. What do you say to what Nicholas said?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Oh, of course she's attacking Labor. She's also attacking the
taxpayer union, who also said the books have gotten worse.
The alternative is is she would have to defend her books.
And as you've said, what can we already know? Christopher
Luxe and Nicholas have made things harder?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Would you have made things better?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Absolutely? If you looked at what we had in the
pre election fiscal updates, we would have been in surplus
in twenty six twenty seven. But the books don't lie.
I mean ultimately, unemployed mom is forecast to get worse.
Growth as weaker than expected, and food prices continue to
go up, you know, basics like bread is fifty three
percent higher over the last year.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And what would you as a government do to actually
change that? Would you cut spending? How would you cut spending?
Would you cut spending?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Well, ultimately, we told them that the tax cuts were unaffordable.
In the twenty three election, also it's all about choices.
They've decided to spend money on property speculator.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Hold on, holda notice. Barbara I said, would you cut
spending and then you started talking about the tax cuts,
which is about tax we'll get onto that later. Would
you reduce the amount that that any government, if you
were running it spends.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Yeah, so that's what the forecast did show the pre
Food twenty twenty three. We'd also gone through a consolidation
as well.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Okay, so you've met it already. Of course, the tax cuts,
the moving of the thresholds, you obviously would not have
done that, So that means you would have had higher
taxes than national currently has. Would you have increased taxes?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
We would have kept on the same track that we
had had in twenty twenty three. That was our plan
back at the election. Ultimately, it all comes down to choices,
and they've chosen to give funding to things that don't
help everyday kiwis like with the cost of living.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Okay. In the high food the cost of superannuation payments
is projected to increase from twenty four point eight billion
in twenty five twenty six to thirty point nine billion
and twenty nine thirty. All economists say this is the
biggest spending driver. Would you cut super.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
No, We've said we'd keep it at sixty five, and
that's something that every party would need to take to
the election as well. New Zealanders want to be able
to plan for their retirement. Of course, obviously superannuation is
part of that. Housing as part of that, qui saver,
as part of that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Okay, well, how about this one, Working for families tax credits.
If you abolish those, you could save three billion in
twenty five to twenty six, or nearly fifteen billion over
the forecast period. So would you cut working for families
tax credits?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
No, because we know right now it's really difficult for
a lot of families and they depend on their weekly
Working for families will be work working for families every week.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, So how exactly would you reduce the cost of living,
which is about the only meta you've said you do
so far. How would you do that?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
So we'll set out much more of our cost of
living plan and next year as part of the election.
But we're also so far already announced, for example, that
we would look at providing three free GP visits for
people coming out all.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Right, thank you, Barbara. Barbara Edmonds is ladies for that spokesperson.
And this is new stalks.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
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Speaker 2 (32:55):
Albert Reckons. No substance in what are you saying? Just slogans?
I agree. I asked this some quite specific questions, no answers.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Hello, Heather, how about how about I turn on that
microphone there?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You're getting pretty flash at this job. Forgot the basics,
but you know what it is.
Speaker 10 (33:11):
It's because we all have to give ourselves, cut ourselves
a little bit of slack. This is the Wednesday before Christmas.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Like you've got three more days to work. Yeah, you're starting.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
You don't want to be winding down, but your body's
running out.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And then a house Barbara, and she said, what will
the announce some stuff close into the election, And I thought,
I wought do matter?
Speaker 10 (33:28):
Is this bad has frustrated to you?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Has she?
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yes, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
Well they're between a rock and a hard place, aren't they,
Because they have absolutely no economic credibility, but they have
and we have absolutely no money, but they want to spend.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
We have no money and this matter, whether it's National
or Labor, we haven't. As I told you this morning,
We've only had seventeen services.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
He is an outrageous idea for you. Do you think
Nikola Willis should have been a Labor Party finance minister?
She could be anybody be quite credible as a Labor
Party final Piari as well.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
She's a bit flannelly as.
Speaker 10 (33:59):
Well, loves to spend.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Sorry, very good. All right here that's next. My thanks
to producer Kenzie. Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow. By about
now this morning, thought i'd write it, Chris Smash, how
quickly can you build this?
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Morment? Thank be.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
That'd be Welcome morning, Welcome to the program, Thank you
so much for choosing us. We're here for the next hour.
And coming up. Dodgy electoral practices involving voter fraud has
meant to result in the recent local body elections has
been voided. What the hell went down and how can
we avoid this in the future? That story in five minutes.
We've got a new mega ministry. It's called m SERT.
(00:32):
Can you come up with a better name? The Ministry
for Cities, Environments, Regions and Transport. But what is the
problem that's trying to solve and is it the answer?
And breaking news the country has broke and therefore just
before sex, what would Barbara Edmonds and labor do differently?
We'll have these stories plus corresponders from right around New
zeal And, Gavin Gray out of the UK, and news
(00:52):
as it breaks and you can have your say on
the text. Ninety two ninety two is a number. Small
charge applies at seven after five. Well's Wednesday the seventeenth
of December, three more Bondai shooting victims have been named.
Here's a tragedy. The couple happy named Boris and Sophia German.
(01:12):
They were killed at the hannukaer attack that they're fifteen
ded They tried to stop the gunman. They actually grabbed
the gun, but they got shot for their trouble. Edith
Brupman has been named Dash came by way shows Boris
and Sophia trying to stop the gunman as they got
out of the car. Some of the other victims include
forty one year old Eli Schlanger, French national Dan el Kaim,
(01:32):
Holocaust survivor Alexander Klaytman, former police officer Peter Mayer, and
ten year old Matilda, who broke our hearts and broke
all the hearts at the Bondai service.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
A happy kid.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You know some kids, they may be shy, they may
be afraid of you or something.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
She was open, hard, openheart anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
She she was like a son and police are probing
a pre attack trip to the Philippines by the father
and son gunman, including claims of military style training. No
evidence of collusion.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
There's no evidence that these people were part of a cell.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Clearly they were motivated by this extremist ideology. Now he
said he could do it, and he's gone and done it.
This is Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
You'll be seeing.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I'm suing the BBC for putting words in my mouth
literally and to put words.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
In my mouth.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
They had me saying things that I never said coming out.
I guess they used AI or something. So we'll be
bringing that lass. A lot of people were asking, why
are you bringing that lawsuit? Even the media can't believe
that one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, he's done it. He filed a five billion US
dollar lawsuit against the BBC over that edit of his
sixth January twenty twenty one speech in a Panorama documentary,
and Donald Trump's accused the broad caster of defamation and
of violating a trade practices law. The BBC says, well,
we're going to defend that. And now finally some Lizzo
(02:58):
So Pop souers elebrating a legal victory after a judge
dismissed allegations of fat shaming. This is a twenty twenty
three lawsuit filed by three of her former dancers who
she called fat. While those specific allegations have been dropped,
the case against Lizzo and her production company will continue
overclaims that the three dancers were subject to sexual harassment.
It's nine after five.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The first word on the News of the day earli
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Speaker 2 (03:30):
That'd be all right, here's the moment I go for Grandpa.
I went for a walk yesterday just before the storm
came in. It was a beautiful walk. It was a
nice and warm and I saw two men working on
the most magnificent garden. So it's our main road. It's
on a slope facing the road. It's very very visible.
It's very very architectural. Nine shrubs cut into giant toperary balls.
(03:52):
It's amazing, the precision of the work, the dramatic mass
of box cut hedges around it, rock gardens and stairs
and concrete benches, all top off with four magnificent cypresses.
It's our work of art that we can all share.
From the road. And I caught the eye of one
of the professional gardeners, and I point it to the
gardener and gave them two thumbs up. In a chef's kiss,
and he smiled a big smile, gave me a thumbs up.
(04:13):
And that was a man proud of his work, a
job well done, a beautiful garden we can all enjoy.
And I do like fantastic gardens by the road. They
make a suburbs sing, don't they. It's a gift to
the community. I tend two gardens. One's a little one
and one's a big one. I've been working on them
a lot recently, getting them ready for Christmas. And if
I invited you round today, you'd say, oh, Andrew, nice garden,
(04:36):
and I'd be proud, and I'd be happy to make
you happy. And I say this because as I drive
to work, I drive through a state house area, an
old fashioned one, you know, with those three bedroom wooden
boxes set on grass fields. There are no plantings, there
is no garden, and the grass is often long and
uncared for. There's junk in the grass, there's cars in
the grass. There's maybe one or two lost children in
(04:58):
the grass. If I lived in such an environment, I
be on the booze or the gear as well. And
I have no idea why our state house areas are
so often so desolate. Why the tenants who have been
offered this lifeline take no pride in the property. You know,
if I was a state, I'd give you some tools
and say check you every six months have you done
(05:19):
some gardening? And check also that you haven't sold the
tools for a slab of beer. The state of your
garden is a reflection of your soul and pride and
ambition and care for the community. It can be done
very cheap, so go and do it for everybody's mental
health wellbeing. Twelve after five. I couldn't believe the story
(05:42):
yesterday about a local body result being thrown out over
claims of voter fraud. What country do we live in?
What country do we live in? Anyway? So what happened
in this electorate? And is there anything we can do
about it? We'll talk to the CEO of Transparency International,
New Zealand next here on Newstalks MB. It's twelve after
(06:02):
five on.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
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Speaker 2 (06:15):
B All right, it is now forteen minutes after five.
There are concerns about the integrity of our elections. After
a South Auckland local body result was thrown out over
claims of voter fraud, Amnico judge found irregularities in the
Puppet Toy Toy subdivision that affected the result. That means
a new election has to be held next year. Investigators
say seventy nine votes were cast without the voter's knowledge,
(06:36):
some allegedly taken straight from the mailboxes. Julie Hagey as
the CEO of Transparency International New Zealand, and joins you
now goombording.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
To you, Julie, good morning.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is pretty concerning. Really, we haven't really heard much
of this sort of thing in the past.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
No, that's right. I think this is a very unusual case.
There have been complaints to judges, but none's actually none
has actually resulted in a an overturning of an election
as far as I could look back, as far as
I could see, So it's it is really an unusual case.
And I have to say I haven't seen the decision
of the complaint and no charge has been laid, but
(07:13):
though there are two investigations underway, so I can talk
about its publicly available in the media.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay, Well, it's interesting. It's interesting when they've looked at
seventy nine votes four the four councilors who got onto
the board all got on with majorities between twelve hundred
and two thousand. Would seventy nine irregular votes actually affecting
a result?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, I mean, I think that what the judge said
was that there was an indication that there might be more,
and that this was just the ones they opened, and
they found that a high portion of them had been
were actually voted for the group of the group, and
so they said there's likely to be it's likely to
be a bigger problem. And so I think that's the
(07:54):
biggest issue. The threshold they have to get to under
the Local Literal Act, judge has to get to to
look at avoiding a result, and he got to that,
and that's that's a high threshold. So it's not it's
clearly there's a range of issues. We don't know them
all yet, but clearly there's a range of problems.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Do you recogmen, there's more electorates and more elections that
are affected by the sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Oh well, no, I don't see evidence. We've got pretty
good systems and in this election there's been several challenges
to the district Court and quite a few of them
have been overturned because they hadn't met that three shold.
So I think there is a process for people to
go through. It probably needs in this select committee that
looked into the last local abody election, the previous local
(08:40):
body election, said thinks there are some changes that need
to be made the law to strengthen it and to
increase the penalties. But it does seem to be picking up.
That's a good thing about this is that a person
made the made the effort to go to make a
district court inquiry to position for that and.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
Got a result.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So that's that's a good thing. There's a good thing
about our system.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Random mission. Well, I was going to say, you could
say it was caught, and you know, it was caught
and the result was thrown out and that shows in
a way that our system is working. But it was
only caught because Viv House here, who's the deputy chairman
of the board, actually had some concerns and brought the complaint.
So is the system really working or do we need
whistleblowers like Viv Well?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I think it does, it doesn't. We do need people.
Is your right to say we don't think this voting
process has been run correctly. It's not just about somebody
above that finding it out. So everybody has got to
write to do that in relation to their voter, in
relation to their who voted for them or who didn't
vote for them. They've got a right to get that.
There's there's problems with the timing. They have to get
(09:44):
it through very quickly, so that's a that's an issue
with timing. But it is that system does seem to
be does seem to have held up in this case,
although we now need to see the police investigations are underway.
What really matters is that if there has been malfis
what's happening here, people are actually held to account, and
that's the real nub of this. It might be harder
(10:05):
to prove, but I'm hopeful that the police are putting
good energy into the those investigations.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Thank you so much, Julie Hagey, And of course I
mentioned of iv Housier. Hausier is on with Ever after
six o'clock to day to talk about what she found
and the process she went through, text through saying I've
just listened to your insults in regard to State House tenants.
Your comments were rude and ignorant and deliberately designed to
incite stereotypes and discrimination. I'm sorry, just do your gardens?
(10:33):
Is that too much to ask? It's five nineteen. We
have brand new ministry. It's called MSERT, needs a better name.
You can text me your ideas ninety two ninety two.
This is a big murder of the I'll tell you
more about this after the break. We're going to talk
to a FELLO from Transporting New Zealand about whether this
is a good move.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
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Speaker 3 (11:00):
They'd be five.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Twenty one gone in other days when we're going to
have separate ministries for transport, the environment and housing, they're
all going to be merged into one mega ministry called MSERT,
the Ministry for Cities, Environment, Regions and Transport. So let's
talk to Don Callacy, who is the CEO of Transporting
New Zealand, and of course the new ministry will affect
his sector.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
Hello Don, morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Are you happy with this? News or is it or whatever.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
I think that there is some sensibility to it. You know,
I think navigating across different ministries and agencies can be difficult,
So sometimes having less is small and ultimately transports one
part of a larger ecosystem, and so you know, taking
a more unified, connected approach does make some sense.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Okay, Well, transport has an awful lot of work in
front of it, the transition to electronic road user charges
and congestion pricing, and there's a whole lot of technical
work as well, and now it's being merged into one
big mega ministry where they're thinking about other stuff as well.
Are you worried that that sort of work might actually
not be done as efficiently as when you had a
(12:11):
dedicated ministry of transport.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
I think there is a risk, and that is something
we're worried about. We've just sort of started to get
some momentum in those areas and we don't want to
lose that. But look, in terms of a mega ministry,
I had a quick look last night, and from what
I can gather, bringing those three ministries together, plus you've
(12:39):
got some from DIA, you're probably looking at about thirteen
hundred maybe forteen hundred people at the most. But if
you look at other agencies and ministries, mby's got about
six thousand people. MDPA has got about three thousand people.
So you know, big organizations like this there already exists,
(13:00):
is there, working to various degrees of success. It is
what it is, and we'll be doing everything we can
to help the new ministry.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Good Man, good commenttion. I thank you so much as
Don Calassy from transporting New Zealand's but he's quite right
about MB Okay. MB has a problem. It's a mega
ministry and nobody knows who's reporting to who. It's very messy.
So will this one be exactly the same as MB
even though it will be smaller. Remember, under this ministry
(13:28):
they've got RMA reform and transport reforms that we've just
heard about to get through. Do they have the capacity
to get that right? Here's the thing about though it's
not reducing the amount of ministers, nor can anyone tell
me that it automatically means a dramatic reduction in the
number of public servants and their salaries, which, of course
a lot of people are wanting right now to help
the books. As sir Brian Roach reported this week we
have a massive public service sixty two, six hundred and
(13:51):
fifty four staff in June of this year, compared to
sixty five six hundred ninety nine at the peak, which
is back in twenty twenty three. We've still got nearly
sixty three one thousand public servants. We've got forty three departments,
departmental agencies into departmental executive boards of various sizes and mandates,
all operating right now, more than most small advanced economies. Can.
(14:12):
We manage costs at the moment, Sir Brian says, no,
maintain critical capacity no, and deliver joined up services with
a system perspective.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And here we are making an even bigger one. It
is five twenty four.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
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Speaker 2 (14:30):
These Talks it B five twenty six. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
we're broke. The half year the government fiscal update shows
we're still in debt and the debt is getting bigger.
So we're broke. Not enough money, everything's more expensive, so
it's off to the money lender before the bailiffs come
in and sell everything. Sounds like a lot of households
around me. Idealy, of course we'll be in surplus. That
(14:51):
will mean we have raised enough money to actually pay
our way. Then we'd have more money than costs. But
we act and the possibility of that happening has got
further away. So make no misas sake. Deficit is bad,
but surplus actually that's only just okay, that's how bad
we are, and we're getting more and more into debt.
The government has a debt to GDP ratio of forty
one point eight percent. It used to be twenty nine,
(15:13):
and it's forecast to rise to over forty six percent
before it starts going down. But you can just say
we're broke. Simple, easy, let's put another lens on it. Though.
The New Zealand government has posted a surplus seventeen times
since nineteen eighty. That's seventeen times and forty five years.
So the government has been broken, had to run off
(15:34):
to the money lenders sixty two percent of the time
since nineteen eighty, being broke as our normal. And if
I applied the surplus deficit debt ratio to my own finances,
then I've been broke most of my adult life. I
mean hello, who hasn't had a debt to equity ratio
of ninety five percent in their lives. So if you
look at that at that way, it's not so bad.
(15:55):
And we're still on the right half of the indebted
nations list because everyone's broke. I think sometimes we're a
bit naive when we demand surpluses about just how hard
it is to do. If you listen to Stephen Joyce
on Heather's show yesterday, he said government books are hard
to turn. Like a super tanker. As he said yesterday,
it can take up to a decade to go from
(16:15):
deficit to surplus. But some of us think, oh, a
few public service cuts and cuts to benefits and we'll
be tickety boot. Our fiscal crisis is far more fundamental
than that, and that the problem is we don't make
enough money in this world to fix it. We need
to make more money in the world so we have
more tax revenue, so we can then afford the good
(16:37):
stuff and the necessary stuff, and so we don't have
to have debt. So my question to you is, what
are you doing there standing here listening to this. Get
to work, make more money, said be five twenty nine.
So I got stuck into State House gardens and I
got insulted. Graham agrees with me, though agree with your
granddad moment. If someone is good enough to have a
(16:59):
house for you to live in state or private, then
it's a good form to look after it and the grounds.
And unfortunately, in this modern time, a thing called entitlement,
combined with laziness and arrogance, create a whole lot of
airheaded people who like living in their own mess and
expect everybody else to clean it up. Thank you, Graham,
And Taylor says Andrew, you can make even a muddy
pig look okay if you just wash it. My partner
and I live down a cul de sac driveway. We
(17:21):
get out and always tidy the shared gardens on the
shared driveway. It doesn't take a lot, makes everything look better.
We even water blasted the fence for everyone. People don't
seem to have much pride in their space, Thank you, Taylor.
And that's true. Still on the way, Barbara Edmonds from Labor,
how would she run the economy better? Well, there's a
big question.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
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v's accessories and servicing all in one news talks IVY.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well outside is prideful, but the fire is so delightful.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And since we've no place.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
To go, it's snow.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
Let it snow.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Let it still, well it does. We're sitting a cold
bunch of air coming over the country right now, but
I ain't gonna snow. I never know why we play
songs like this in New Zealand when it's summer, but
there we go. Let us know that it's no merry
Christmas to you all. So we've been a bit negative
of what with the fact that the country's broken, me
complaining about the state of state house cardens or by
the way Texas says regarding the state housing, perhaps a
(18:24):
competition could be instigated with a prize offered for the
best cap grounds with maybe a rent production. I think
that's great and I'd like to see the pictures. Here
is the best kept state house by a tenant, and
this person gets a month free win. How about that?
I don't know anyway, So I thought you might need
some good news here some good news. The Sir Colin
Giltrap Raceway, a world class karting facility in Auckland, is
(18:46):
officially opening The track builds on our carting heritage because
we're so good at the karting and the track will
be opened by six car six time IndyCar Chapian Scott
Dixon fifty nine career wins first QUI to win the
Indy five hundred. Scott Dixon is in with Heather. Here's
to Sir Colin Giltrap and his family with what they've
done in terms of giving back with their money, in
(19:07):
terms of facilities and helping people. You know, Liam Lawson
wouldn't be anywhere without Colin, So thank you so much
to the Giltrap family for what you've done and can't
wait to see this world class carting facility in Auckland.
Have more about It TV and said meanwhile, has released
what it's biggest shows were ever the year. Not surprisingly,
One News was its biggest. They reckon seventy percent of
(19:28):
all key we saw One News but at number two spot,
Shouldn't I Country Calendar, the country's longest running television series.
Both One News and Hundai Country Calendar have been in
the top three shows in all New Zealand television since
twenty seventeen. Because we like a bit of news and
we love the country Farmers, We love you. Oh and finally,
(19:48):
speaking of New Zealand, Wellington Avatar Avatar made in New Zealand.
The reviews are out and they're a bit lukewarm, fair
to say. The one I like the most was which
he knew sex interests can't save this gigantically dull hunger
of nonsense. It's twenty one to six news talks 'd
(20:09):
be in the country. We go Callen Proctor from Motago.
Good morning to you morning Andrew. If you need urgent
twenty four to seven care, You've got a new facility, Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 11 (20:19):
A new service opens today here in Doneda. It's the
Daneedan Urgent Doctors and Accident Center. It will give locals
round the clock healthcare support and access. It's part of
the government one hundred and sixty four million dollar investment
to improve urgent and after our services. So Danieda Miyors
Sophie Barker is happy with this. She says the region's
(20:39):
growing population and student culture means these services are urgent,
and she says she knows from her own experience, especially
from her student days waiting in A and E, and
that people need shorter wait times to receive better care.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
All right, how's your weather call it today?
Speaker 11 (20:55):
Here early morning shower or two southwesterly sixteen the high.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And who can go clear shure with from christ Church?
Good morning, good morning. You've got a new art exhibition
to visit.
Speaker 12 (21:05):
Yeah, and we do, and it's bank See. We've got
more than one hundred and fifty original artworks from the
world famous street artist on display over summer at Tipei
Convention Center here in christ Church. The exhibit has traveled
to more than twenty cities, but this is the first
time it's come to the South Island. Curator and producer
Michelle Borschma says the original flower thrower artwork will be
(21:29):
on show. There's also some installations that provide insight into
Banksy's creative process. As a hub for street art, christ
Church is said to be the best city to host
a displayed like this. The venue has made it one
of the best versions they've done on the tour. Borschmar
says to have an over of one artist in one
(21:50):
space is very unique and this is what they would
consider a museum grade exhibition on tour.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Now, it's quite good. I went and I bought a
T shirt when it was in Auckland. Now, how do
you weather a little bit more like winter here?
Speaker 12 (22:02):
This morning We've got Shaoer's thundery bit of hail about
then turning to a heavier rain. Some southwesterlies will ease
by this evening. The high only seventeen.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Not t shirt weather Maxtell from Wellington, Good morning to
you morning. VIC University is officially AI friendly.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
This is the annual academic ranking of world universities, also
known as the Shanghai Ranking, which has put Victoria in
the top fifty in terms of being AI friendly of
graduates being ready to work in or with AI A
Singaporean institute number one, a Chinese Uni two, Toronto three.
Apparently Vick has been making a concerted push in the
(22:42):
past few years to focus on AI, make sure it's
incorporated into different studies. One tech expert tolus. Companies often
have to look offshore for expertise, but that's certainly been
growing in the capital. A lot of people in the
public sector using AI more and more to positive and
negative effect. Newly created roles as well in the tertiary
(23:02):
sector in this country is having to respond to that demand.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
All right, how's your weather.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Another wet day with stronger southerly so cool fifteen the hay.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And I thank you. Wendy Pittrick now joins me from
AUKLANDHALLO Wendy for inner. Oh we're talking about rubbish collection.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Oh, I know it's an exciting topic, isn't it. Rubbish
Auckland a council is trashing a plan to trial a
fortnightly rubbish collection, but the idea hasn't been removed from
the picture now. The trial would have included ten thousand
households in Tiata two Peninsula, Palma, Tamakie, Clinton Park and Weymouth.
Of the more than five thousand submissions, seventy eight percent
(23:38):
actually opposed trialing a fortnightly rubbish collection. Councilor Daniel Newman
says the possibility of fortnite collection lives on in the
current waste management minimization plan. He says he and other
counselors will try to permanently move the region to a
weekly service next year. So I guess we'll just have
to wait.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Do you fill your rubbish bin every week?
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Well? I yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Actually no, we're about free court. We're about seventy five percent.
Sometimes We've got a low rubbish week where it's only fifty,
but other times we're packed, I know, so every fortnight
I think we'd be spilling out.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah, I mean I admire people that do manage to
have hardly any rubbish. So we do try.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Orkan's weather.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Oh wow, looking at a few cloudy periods with a
few showers today, mainly in the morning, though southwesterlyis will
be strong in the afternoon. Heading for twenty degrees and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I thank you. It is seventeen minutes to six still
to come. Before six o'clock. We are talking with Barbara Edmunds,
of course, the finance spokesperson for the Labor Party, about
what she would do differently. Could she really do anything differently?
Craig sent me a text, Andrew, why doesn't Barbara Edmonds
also take responsibility for our government running deficits. She needs
to remember the borrowing and spending that Labor did when
(24:42):
they were in government. They spent like drunken sailors. And
this is also the recent our economy is in such
a state. And then there's four exclamation marks. But as
I put it out, Craig, in the last forty five years,
who only ever had seventeen surpluses. We've always been spending
like drunken sailors. It's just that labour's bit more anyway.
Barbara is here very shortly, but nixt Gavin Gray from
(25:04):
the UK.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
International correspondence with Insigne Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for
New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yes, it's now forteen minutes to sixth to the UK
with Gavin greg Good morning to you hither and so
what's happened to the bloke who uses car as a
whip and he plowed into more than one hundred and
thirty people at Liverpool's football club's victory parade.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yes, back in twenty six of May. This was a
fifty four year old former Royal Marine was sitting in
doc and showed no emotion. Was He was sentenced and
jailed for twenty one years and six months. He plowed
his vehicle into more than one hundred and thirty people
at the victory parade. He admitted thirty one charges, including
(25:48):
causing grievous bodily harm with intent and dangerous driving and
a fray. The victims ranged from a six month old
baby to a seventy seven year old woman. Now, the
judge and the caught her that the married father of
three was traveling into the city center to collect friends
from that parade when he lost his temper and then
(26:09):
drove his forward Galaxy car directly into supporters dashcom footage
was played in court. It was horrendous. It accelerated down
Water Street, which had been closed for traffic, and in
the footage it can be heard shouting move, move and
swearing at the crowd, including after he hit a ten
year old girl who when no defects in the car.
He was not under the influence of drink or drugs
(26:31):
and only recently changed his plea.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So he didn't get angry at the Liverpool team, did he?
He got angry just because the parade was in his way.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I just think, you know, he just that was never
really clearly explained in the court. He just got angry
and the red miss came down and then for some
reason cloud into the crowd.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh right, speaking of angry Donald Trump versus the BBC.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, this could be an expensive few months for the BBC.
He has now launched a five billion US dollar so
that's roughly eight billion New Zealand dollar lawsuit filed by
him because of an edit over his speech January twenty
twenty one. Now that was ahead of the twenty twenty
(27:16):
four US election, and it was on the day that
there were riots at the US Capitol. So in full,
he basically says, look, they cheated the BBC. A change
the words that came out of his mouth. What came
out of his mouth Andrew was quote, We're going to
walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer
on our brave senators and congressmen and women. Fifty minutes
(27:39):
later he said, and we fight, We fight like hell.
But the Panorama documentary program by the BBC showed a
clip with him which connected the two in this way.
It said We're going to walk down to the Capitol,
I'll be there with you, and we fight. We fight
like hell, making it seem like he was, of course
promoting or inviting people to fight, which he says that
(27:59):
absolutely is not his intention. So this very expensive lawsuit,
the BBC say they will defend. They said there was
no malice in the edit and that he was reelected
shortly after. They had a whole load of excuses. We'll
wait to see where this leaves for the BBC.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
They have to defend it. It's their entire name and honor,
and I Thankgavin Gray from the UK. By the way,
I just want to mention the couple in the dash
cam footage out of Bandai who were killed trying to
fight off the Bondai shooter. They've been identified as Boris
and Sofia German. The footage you may have seen it
shows the moment that Boris tackled the shooter, said Akram
wrestled the gun from him, but it was all for
(28:35):
nothing because the second gunman killed Boris and Sofia in
cold blood. We don't have one hero on this day.
We've certainly have three, and we probably have more. It
is now ten to.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Six News Talk Siddy.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
All right, We've got the treasuries half year scorecard yesterday.
It's not pretty. The government's books are worse than expected.
The surplus timeline has been pushed back a bit to
twenty nine thirty. That's back a year. The deficit blows
out to nearly fourteen billion dollars, one point eight billion
worse than back in May. So Nichola Wis was quick
to defend herself.
Speaker 13 (29:08):
We had the receipts and unfortunately for labor having opposed
every saving that we have delivered. They cannot take a
position of responsible fiscal management.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
So Labor's economics spokesperson Barbara Vans is with us. Hello Barbara,
good morning Andrew. What do you say to what Nicholas said?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Oh, of course she's attacking Labor. She's also attacking the
taxpayer union, who also said the books have gotten worse.
The alternative is is she would have to defend her books.
And as you've said, what can we already know? Christopher
Luxe and Nicholas have made things harder?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Would you have made things better?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Absolutely? If you looked at what we had in the
pre election fiscal updates, we would have been in surplus
in twenty six twenty seven. But the books don't lie.
I mean ultimately, unemployed mom is forecast to get worse.
Growth as weaker than expected, and food prices continue to
go up, you know, basics like bread is fifty three
percent higher over the last year.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And what would you as a government do to actually
change that? Would you cut spending? How would you cut spending?
Would you cut spending?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Well, ultimately, we told them that the tax cuts were unaffordable.
In the twenty three election, also it's all about choices.
They've decided to spend money on property speculator.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Hold on, holda notice. Barbara I said, would you cut
spending and then you started talking about the tax cuts,
which is about tax we'll get onto that later. Would
you reduce the amount that that any government, if you
were running it spends.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Yeah, so that's what the forecast did show the pre
Food twenty twenty three. We'd also gone through a consolidation
as well.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Okay, so you've met it already. Of course, the tax cuts,
the moving of the thresholds, you obviously would not have
done that, So that means you would have had higher
taxes than national currently has. Would you have increased taxes?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
We would have kept on the same track that we
had had in twenty twenty three. That was our plan
back at the election. Ultimately, it all comes down to choices,
and they've chosen to give funding to things that don't
help everyday kiwis like with the cost of living.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Okay. In the high food the cost of superannuation payments
is projected to increase from twenty four point eight billion
in twenty five twenty six to thirty point nine billion
and twenty nine thirty. All economists say this is the
biggest spending driver. Would you cut super.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
No, We've said we'd keep it at sixty five, and
that's something that every party would need to take to
the election as well. New Zealanders want to be able
to plan for their retirement. Of course, obviously superannuation is
part of that. Housing as part of that, qui saver,
as part of that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Okay, well, how about this one, Working for families tax credits.
If you abolish those, you could save three billion in
twenty five to twenty six, or nearly fifteen billion over
the forecast period. So would you cut working for families
tax credits?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
No, because we know right now it's really difficult for
a lot of families and they depend on their weekly
Working for families will be work working for families every week.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, So how exactly would you reduce the cost of living,
which is about the only meta you've said you do
so far. How would you do that?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
So we'll set out much more of our cost of
living plan and next year as part of the election.
But we're also so far already announced, for example, that
we would look at providing three free GP visits for
people coming out all.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Right, thank you, Barbara. Barbara Edmonds is ladies for that spokesperson.
And this is new stalks.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
ETB the news you need this morning and the in
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Speaker 2 (32:55):
Albert Reckons. No substance in what are you saying? Just slogans?
I agree. I asked this some quite specific questions, no answers.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Hello, Heather, how about how about I turn on that
microphone there?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You're getting pretty flash at this job. Forgot the basics,
but you know what it is.
Speaker 10 (33:11):
It's because we all have to give ourselves, cut ourselves
a little bit of slack. This is the Wednesday before Christmas.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Like you've got three more days to work. Yeah, you're starting.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
You don't want to be winding down, but your body's
running out.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And then a house Barbara, and she said, what will
the announce some stuff close into the election, And I thought,
I wought do matter?
Speaker 10 (33:28):
Is this bad has frustrated to you?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Has she?
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yes, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
Well they're between a rock and a hard place, aren't they,
Because they have absolutely no economic credibility, but they have
and we have absolutely no money, but they want to spend.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
We have no money and this matter, whether it's National
or Labor, we haven't. As I told you this morning,
We've only had seventeen services.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
He is an outrageous idea for you. Do you think
Nikola Willis should have been a Labor Party finance minister?
She could be anybody be quite credible as a Labor
Party final Piari as well.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
She's a bit flannelly as.
Speaker 10 (33:59):
Well, loves to spend.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Sorry, very good. All right here that's next. My thanks
to producer Kenzie. Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow. By about
now this morning, thought i'd write it, Chris Smash, how
quickly can you build this?
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Morment? Thank be.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
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