October 16, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Friday 17th of October 2025, retired law professor Bill Hodge tells Ryan the Mowbray family has a point over their complaints about name suppression in our justice system.
Former Silver Fern Margaret Foster previews the opening Constellation Cup test against Australia with Dame Noeline Taurua still stood down.
Ryan reckons Jim Bolger's death has put a spotlight on how our current crop of polticians aren't up to much.
And Cameron Bagrie joins the show and agrees with Infometrics' warning that the OCR cuts are risking actually overcooking the economy.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
They'd be good.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Morning A six up to five on your Friday. The
mobras reckon we need to change our suppression laws. We'll
look at that before six. We're in the UK with
Vincent marg Foster on the Silver Ferns. They're off to
Ozzie Sands, Dame Knowles and Cameron Baggery. Are we overcooking
it on rate cuts?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
The agenda Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
The seventeenth of October. Venezuela and I are happy chappy
because Trump's doing covert CII operations in their country.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
They have emptied their prisons into the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
They came in through the.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Well, they came in through the border.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
They came in because we had an open border policy.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
And the other thing a drugs.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
We have a lot of drugs coming in from.
Speaker 7 (00:50):
That as well.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
CII. The Cia Maduro is calling it a coup detarc.
Republicans and Democrats aren't budging on the shutdown situation. Speaker
Mike Johnson's a crack at them.
Speaker 8 (01:01):
There is an incredible contrast right now between the two
parties that could not be more clear. This is not
your grandfather's Democratic Party. It truly has become the far
left Marxist left that are running that whole operation, and
it has real effects on real people, good like everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Now, the shutdown has lasted longer than the six Fire
and Gaza, although that is holding for now. Israel's returning
more bodies of Palestinians, NT Yahoo's still talking tough.
Speaker 9 (01:29):
Whoever raises their hand on us already knows that they
will pay a very heavy price for their aggression.
Speaker 10 (01:34):
We're determined to complete the victory that will affect our
lives for many years.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
A bit of a warning this morning from Britain's spy
agency that the terror threat's real and it's growing.
Speaker 11 (01:44):
Groups overseas are continuing their attempts to direct terrorism into
the UK and Europe. Al Qaida and Islamic stat are
once again becoming more ambitious, taking advantage of instability overseas
to gain firmer foothols.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
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Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'd be two is the number to text. I'd love
to hear from you this morning. Get your popcorn everyone,
we're going to Kuyper. The local body elections are officially now. Interesting.
You've got Trump of the North up there. He's saying,
in very trumpy and style that the election's bit rigged
eady to.
Speaker 12 (02:24):
Have a why down, you're not able to come up
and stand up here? Sit down, Take your seat, okay,
take your seat please. This is not a place where
you can come and do this. Take your seat.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
We're going to your journe meeting till tomorrow morning.
Speaker 13 (02:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It's all over. So it's back on this morning at
nine o'clock apparently is when they're back. So calls a
meeting and emergency meeting. Last night apparently there's a claim
there's a complaint that an EWE took over a voting
booth stop people from voting. Don't know whether that's true
or not. That's just what media is reporting. There was
a sign also, there's a photo of a sign that
said Maldy wars and this was on election day, which
(03:07):
you know you shouldn't try and influence people's vote. There
was a sign that supposedly said Maldy Wards of course,
no question. So someone complained, meeting gets called, crowd goes wild,
meeting gets adjourned back on this morning. So we don't
really know much, neither of the councilors by the sound
of it. But it's interesting because the race is so tight.
(03:27):
So you've got the incumbent guy, this is Jonathan Larsen,
the first and last time we'll mention the Kuai premiere
on the show. But he so he is the guy
that Trump has endorsed, so he's your Trump candidate. And
then you've got a three way race. You've got your
eweie man Snow, and then you've got another councilor his
name's Jason Smith, thirty one votes separating them either way.
(03:50):
Whatever happens with this meeting today, whatever happens with the
specials which are getting announced later today, this thing's going
to drag on because you've got groups now threatening a
judicial review and someone else is saying I'm going to
the Onboardsman Bryan Bridge five ten will keep you up
to date on newstalok ZB no doubt on what's going
on there now. Next week Monday, we get inflation for
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the September quarter, so we've got the rbn Z cut
hopefully another twenty five points next month. Food prices yesterday
were off down point four that's for the month. Rent
lowest annual increase in fourteen years. So the theory is
that this makes up a quarter of the CPI. So
if a quarter of the CPI is going backwards or
(04:32):
not accelerating at the rate they were expecting, maybe we
won't hit three percent inflation. Maybe that will give the
Reserve Bank more cores to cut next month. Five to eleven.
We'll talk about this and we actually claim that we
might be overcooking it on interest rate cuts with Cambag.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
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Speaker 3 (05:01):
Point thirteen on News Talk said be Ritz says, Ryan,
send the netball girls up north to sort the local
elections out. That's not a bad idea, that's not a
bad shout at all. Talk to Mark Foster about the
going over to Australia. It's going to be much tougher
in terms of actual netball than it was against the
South Africans and if they lose, like if they lose
the Constellation Cup to Australia, does that then mean that
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Dame Niles is a shoeing to come back because if
they lose without her then presumably they needed her, So
you would have no choice, would you. We'll talk to
marg Foster about that. Shortly five point thirteen, Graham Bridge
Inpimetrix brad Olsen's outfit, reckons we might be overcooking it
with interes straight cuts. They say the cuts have gone
so far that they've done their job. The effects won't
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be felt until mid to late next year. Too much
stimulus and we get all too excited again and then
facing tickles up and then rate hikes from late next year.
Independent economist Cameron Bagriy with me this morning to chat
about it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Morning Cameron, well, good morning, nice to see you back.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, good to good to be back. What's the situation here?
Do you agree with this?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
You can argue both sides if you look at the
growth side of the equation and the growth side of
the equation and new zealing at the moment is still
pretty ana. So the reserve bands well justified by looking
the kind of up to the defaibilia and giving a
little bit of a of a shock, so to speak,
of the form of a lifelesial cash frow. The other
side is that giving the economy a little bit more
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juici is not without risk, and head by inflation is
moving up. Core inflation looks a lot more contained. But
this is the reserve band that they just need to
be a little bit weary here, because if this economy
is kicking the gear, and I think it is going
to kick in the gear into twenty twenty six, you
could hit some capacity constraints pretty quickly. You hit capacity
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constraints pretty quickly in FLAC starts to wear it's ugly
head again. And for a lot of people out there, Brian, Yeah,
most people do not think head by inflation is too
because you're seeing your electricity bill move up at a
double digit clip, your rates bills moving up at a
double digit clip, medical bills, they cost of food out
there across the country as well.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What's worse for the reserve bank going hard now and
risk reversing later, or you know, letting the pain drag
on and staying on one course.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's a Clayton's choice, you know, we're welcome to being
a central bank, and they need a lot of it's
about risk, risk management, and the Reserve Band obviously decided
after getting that week GDP number for Q two, but
they needed up the NTY a little bit. But if
you go to their document, you know their statement, their minutes,
they were still wary about some of those inflation risks because,
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as I said, your headline inflation is moving up. They're
not focused on head by inflation. They're focused on core
inflation that looks a lot more sedate. But there's a
whole lot of things out there at the moment that
the Reserve Band can't control. You know, one of the
big problems for a central bank is that that they
sort of know where the economy is through a demand lens,
but they don't know where the economy is through a
(08:02):
supply lens. Yeah, this is how fast the economy can
grow the combination of immigration, capital, the combination in line
with productivity growth. And what we know is that that
line is a very weak number. And if that line
is even weaker than what the Reserve Band is estimating,
we get hit capacity constraints early in twenty twenty six,
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on the assumption that this ecloney is going to kick
into gear as a whole lot more people roll of
those fixed mortgages. And we know there's a lot of
stiminess in the pipeline when it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Kicks into gear because it's been so long and dragged out.
When it kicks into gear, does it kick in it
third gear? Are we going to suddenly bolt out the gates.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I'm not convincing to get a bolt out of the gate.
And one of the reasons I'm not convincing in a
bolt out of the gate is the economy is not
just driven by what's called the cyclical leaders, and the
cyclical leaders of things such as interest rates coming down,
how much money to get it's pumping in, and it's
how much money the farmers have got that's something US dollar.
It's the likes of that three point two bidion that
(09:03):
could hurt farmers, wallets in the form of that consumer business.
So we know there's there's some pretty big checks that
they're going to come in. But to get the economy
ready kicking into gear, you need to see the housing
in a pretty pretty good space. Because the housing market's
got about three speeds for neutral and reverse. If you've
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got a shortage of supply, you can't interstrates. Then you
can have typically one how of a construction boom. You
know what we got out there at the moment is
a population growth relative to supply I building consents. It
still looks like we're building too many houses as opposed
to not enough housing. Evaluations are not exactly what you're
called cheap. There's a whole lot of other economic fundamentals
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across this economy. If you look at our infrastructure, you
look at shortage of energy, if you lock at what's
going on in regard to the quality of the roading system.
These things just hold the economy back through a structural lens.
In these are areas that the Reserve Bank are not
fixed by channing interest rates. Only time can through some
(10:04):
good economic policy.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Cameron Bagory, a lead economist at Baggery Economics, appreciate your time.
This morning is always interesting stuff. Eighteen after five. Marg
Foster on the Silver Ferns Next news talk, seed b.
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Speaker 5 (10:26):
That'd be good morning.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It's five twenty nine two ninety two is the number
to text me Bill Hodge on this business with suppression
laws before six. Right now, things not getting any easier
for the Silver Ferns. You've got the Dame Knowles thing
happening and now they're going to go face the Aussies
in Australia for the Constellation Cut, the first of four
tests in Melbourne tonight. Margaret Foster is former Silver Fern
former coach of the Flames and the Steel, joins me
(10:47):
this morning. Marg Good morning, Good morning. So it's going
to be tough for them over there.
Speaker 14 (10:53):
Oh yeah, you know we came off last year, you know,
smoking them for three three in a row, so you know,
looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It is the Dame Noleane thing kind of hanging over
the camp or do you think I mean they did
it with the South Africa just brush it off?
Speaker 14 (11:11):
Yeah, I reckon like just you know what it's like
when there's a bit of chaos song, you're like you're
off the court. But then you know when that whistle
goes like everyone just gets on with it. And realistically,
from a coaching perspective, you know, you it's everything that
you do beforehand of you know, like that gets you
into the right state of mind, and I think those
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athletes there they will be in the right state of mind.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Grace has said that she's unsaw yesterday she's going to
have a handwritten thing saying NT on her wristband, all
this kind of stuff, which is which is a lovely
show of support for Dame no Lean, but it's it's
sort of an old situation. It must be an odd
situation to be in.
Speaker 14 (11:54):
Yeah, it certainly is. And you know, it's nice that
she's you know, she's really shown that. You know, that's
call of darity towards her coach and you know, for
all the things that Knowles has helped her within her
game on and off the court, I think that's it's
quite nice, quite courageous of her to just step up
(12:17):
and stand out as she does, you know. But I
think that sometimes that can actually galvanize a team, and
I think that's massive like these moments, and I feel
that that's what will happen with the senior players. I'll
drive the standards.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
If they don't. If things go wrong, you know, if
we don't come away with the wins, is it inevitable,
then they'll have to bring Dame noling back. I mean,
how long does this drag on for?
Speaker 13 (12:45):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (12:45):
I know, like this it's absolutely getting ridiculous. And look
does it sort of mean that, like, you know, does
it take for us to lose this Constellation Cup for
nippings down to kind of acknowledge and get her back?
I don't know, but you know something's going to happen.
(13:08):
Like you know, it's just getting to be everyone is
talking about it, like just people in public.
Speaker 10 (13:13):
Everywhere I go.
Speaker 14 (13:14):
They're all coming up to me and just you know,
like it probably it puts Nitball, not necessarily, you know,
it does get people talking. It's great for our sport
in that respect.
Speaker 15 (13:24):
But yeah, you're talking about something but.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Positive mag Are you saying any publicity is good publicity?
Speaker 13 (13:32):
Well, we'll thinking that, you know, because you're talking like
just random people that probably don't even want They haven't
we even watched Knipball, but are now nipple fans, so you.
Speaker 14 (13:46):
Know they currently be good.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So in some ways, thank you Dame Knowles for taking
month for the team because it must be hard on her.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Well, it certainly is.
Speaker 14 (13:56):
And like to see her, you're like, you know, it's
she's take her her occupation of job taken away from
her for no reason, Like, yeah, it's kind of quite
hard being on the sideline, and also you know, like
her vision and also her her preparation for going into
(14:17):
this Constellation Cup. I mean it's been twelve months you know,
in the making, because you know, probably from from the
last one when they were just absolutely outstanding, so clinical,
so connected the Constellation Cup to win it last year,
so you know, not to be able to have the
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ability to see if you can go one more, like
you know, like just take it up to another level
when she probably had the winning you know, she's got
the winning formula, so whatever she was doing was pretty
flipp and inspirational to be honest.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, Marg, I really appreciate having you on the show
this morning. He's got to talk Marg Foster, former silver
fin itself. I've also former coach of the Steel and
the Flames. Twenty five minutes after five, Y're on news
Talk SEBB and next we'll look back at Jim Bolger
a bit of comparison to today's lot.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
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Speaker 3 (15:17):
News Talk SEB five twenty seven. It's hard listening to
all the tributes for Jim Bolger, and to not feel
like a little bit like we're being ripped off or
short changed by our current crop of leaders. A few
short generations ago, this country was a completely different place,
completely different place, before the internet, before the phones, before
all the anxiety, before career politicians. Politicians now come straight
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out of school into UNI, into the debating club, into
the student union, then straight into parliament. Jim Bolger was
in parliament a very long time, sure, but he had
a productive life before it, leaving school at fifteen and
into work, hard work, manual work on the farm in
Taranaki and then later in Tequiti. Now it's straight from
school into parliament. Have you which parliament TV?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Lately?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
This is something I do and my grandma do very regularly.
We've always done it, and we always compare notes. We
are both so unimpressed. You've got MPs who literally don't
know how to ask a question. It's like watching a
video buffering. No idea about standing orders, no idea about
the rules that govern the place, and no real apparent
care to learn either. Just walk in, full of entitlement,
(16:23):
sit down and start yelling. One of the most important
tools in The modern MP's toolbox is the unwavering ability
to take offense at anything and everything in tolerance for
another's point of view. The antithesis, by the way of
Jim Bolger, is now commonplace. Where once there was decency,
there is mistrust, wisdom's being usurped by incompetence, and decorums
(16:45):
being biffed out the window and replaced with petulance. People
aren't recognized for their standing in the community and voted
into parliament, which is what used to happen. They're there
because politics is now an industry, and more importantly, nobody
else would hire them and pay what we do.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
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Speaker 3 (17:05):
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is from Trump on Ukraine. He's on the phone with
Putin meeting with Zelenski today. They want a bunch of
Tomahawk missiles. We're going talked to Vincent McAvennie out of
the UK Europe After News Plus Suppression Laws with Bill Hodge,
News Talk SEBB.
Speaker 15 (17:29):
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Speaker 1 (17:35):
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Speaker 3 (17:49):
Twenty four away from six News Talk SEBB coming out
the Mowbrays and suppression laws. We're head to London as well.
The Brits have caught a Chinese spy operation and they've
got more warnings about more of those ahead too.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A great speech from Casey Costello in the House. By
the way, I got lots of texts about Parliament TV. Ryan,
I don't watch Parliament TV. Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything.
It's a shame because it can be interested. It's one
of those things that's good to have on in the
background while you're doing other stuff and occasionally someone will
say something interesting. It's one of those Ryan never seen
or heard this behavior before in Parliament says, and this
(18:21):
is about the sort of decorum in the House. The
problem with Parliament TV is you can watch it on freeview,
but if you try and watch it online, they've changed
the way that you can watch it and it's no
longer as efficient. So I think they need to put
it on YouTube anyway. That's by the bye. Casey Costello
gave a speech. This is after Benjamin Doyle, who was
the Greens and who exit stage left. He gave quite
(18:43):
a scathing speech his valedictory, I suppose because he was
leaving the house after two minutes and he said that
it's not a safe place Parliament. It's a hostile place
unless you're a Cis white man. And then Casey Costello
comes in and says, actually, what are you to talking about?
Who are the leaders of your party?
Speaker 16 (19:02):
We had to endure a narrative that was not only
an insult to members of this side of the House,
but to the party that brought that member to this parliament.
The member was an MP and a party led by
two women. Yet we were told this is a hostile
and toxic place unless you're a CIS white man in
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a black suit and a briefcase.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Fired up. Casey Costalgia didn't stop there either.
Speaker 16 (19:30):
What an insult to our proud legacy, the country that
was the first to give women the vote in the world.
The cowardice and ignorance of that parting shot by a
member who did nothing to use the privilege afforded by
being an MP in this parliament to throw parting shots
run out the door, believing there would be.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
No right of reply.
Speaker 16 (19:53):
Well, mister speaker, I am replying.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
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Anne for us this morning. Calum, good morning, morning right,
So we've got a good breeding from the albatross this season.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Dear, most successful breeding season on record for our Royal Albatross, Ryan.
Thirty eight chicks have fledged from the tid Or Head
colony here on the Otago Peninsula. Eighteen of those chicks
are fitted with GPS trackers and most already well across
the Pacific heading for South America. The previous season record
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was thirty three chicks that was set in the past
two seasons, but thirty eight for this one. The colony's
grown from one breeding pair back in nineteen thirty seven
to more than eighteen. How Doc says it's fitting to
have such a strong year as the colonies round the
clock live stream Royal cam is celebrating its tenth season.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
How's your weather?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Good day to be an albatross. Fine with strong norwesterlies
and twenty two today.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Thanks calm clear and christs. Hey Claire, good morning. You've
got a push there from a school to get attendance up.
Speaker 17 (20:59):
Yeah, and holy school principal believes this could be a
first for New Zealand. What the school's doing is promising
free stationary and uniforms next year to any students who
attend more than eighty percent of school time this term.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Now.
Speaker 17 (21:13):
Anonymous donors are behind this initiative, funding it. The principal,
Graham Norman, says this is just another step to help
the school's very low rate of attendance. He says they
also pick some students up in school vans to take
them to school. As a result, they do have attendance
rates growing. Norman says their community is really behind this idea.
(21:33):
They love it as it's something that can take the
pressure off the family at what is a very busy
time of year.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, drive them to school. Who would have thought? How's
your weather?
Speaker 17 (21:42):
Partly cloudy, A few showers from late this morning could
be heavy, then clearing to a fine afternoon northwesterlies turning
colder southwesterly a bit later and twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
All right, thank you Claire and Maxis and Wellington this morning.
Hey Max, good morning Tamotha. Paul's been in hospital. Yeah,
heart procedure.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
This is the time of the Paul the Green play
Wellington Central MP last night sharing a photo of herself
in Wellington Hospital a cardiac procedure where my doctors correct
and irregular heartbeat. She posted about it on social media,
starting her post simply I am disabled, full stop, and
then going on to say I am one of the
most disabled MPs, but try to keep this to myself
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because I worry people will use it against me. Paul
says she also suffers from lupus, a rheumatoid arthritis. We
of course wish her the best. Her post also takes
a bit of a crack at Simeon Brown, a health
minister who clashed here in Wellington with some senior doctors
yesterday at their annual conference. Paul says she wants them
to strike. Simeon Brown believes they're crossing an ethical line
(22:41):
by picketing.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I hope she's okay. Did she really say I'm one
of the most disabled the MP's in Parliament?
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
It almost seems a bit braggy, doesn't it, But of
course in ill health at the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
We still wish her the best. But a bit of
an odd way to start a sentence. It's an unusual
just a point to point out but unusual.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Hey, how's your weather?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yeah, mostly fine today gusty Northerly's fifteen the high centrals on.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Thank you, Michael, good morning to you.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Is Nina is Neva hiding from me? She wasn't here yesterday.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
I think she's here todayware She's around somewhere.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I can't find her, Michael. More results. We've got more
developments from local elections overnight.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yes. Results coming through thick and fast throughout the nights,
including from Westland where there's really tight race between incumbent
Helen Nash and eighty two year old transgender businesswoman Jackie Grant.
Grant was leading early in the race, but we declared
it too close to call. The margin has been narrowing
now on these latest results, counting specials, Helen Nash has
been re elected mayor of Westland by eight votes. In Auckland,
(23:40):
the chief electoral officer has filed a complaint of alleged
electoral forward with police after allegations of severe elect malepractice
in Puppatoy Toy. The allegations include nightly vote stealing by
a team of young boys, voters being instructed on how
to vote inside the pollen booths and other instances of
voters in places like temples and churches being told how
to vote. We won't get final results for Auckland until
(24:03):
at least tomorrow now due to the sheer number of
special votes cast in the big city in Kaipua District.
We're expecting results today from that really tight mil race
three way race at the moment, outgoing mayor Craig Jepson
has called an unprecedented council meeting last night, saying he
isn't happy with how the election was operated and he
wants to ensure key Wes have a fear process. The
meeting was adjourned last night after interjections from members of
(24:25):
the public. It will resume again at nine aime of
this morning.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
All kicked off, got a bit rowdy, didn't it make
it already?
Speaker 14 (24:29):
Did?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Michael Seviel, who's our local government specialist with us in Auckland, and.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Just quickly on the weather fine apart from the crowds
and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Degrees forgive me, you should be doing this. Michael seventeen
away from Sex News Talk ZEBB. Vincent mcavnie is in
the UK for US next. Accorded to six News talk ZBB.
So four hundred and ten thousand people are on a
benefit right now. We had new numbers from MSD yesterday,
four hundred and ten thousand. That is a new record.
(24:58):
And job seeker benefits up six point four percent to
two hundred and seventeen thousand, eight hundred people are on
a job seeker benefit right now. Guess what, that's also
a record high. And this is Louise Upston's job. And
she's also tourism and that is improving. So she's going
to have a mixed bag when it comes to the
annual review. Sitting down for a one on one with
lux Income Christmas fourteen to six.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Whatster b my five warning about Chinese spies? Vincent mcavini
are UK europe Correspondent Vince and welcome, Hi, good morning.
So what are they saying? What's the problem with the
Chinese spies?
Speaker 10 (25:38):
Well, this is the annual address by the head of
mi I five, which is the domestic intelligence service here
in the UK. If anyone has seen the show Slow Horses,
they will know about what it does. You know on
fictionally at least, but the head of m I five
saying the big threat at the moment is a continuous
disruption of national security by Chinese agents include one concern
(26:01):
and operations stopped just in the past week. This is
rattling on as the UK tries to reset its relationship
with China, trying to get more investment for the country.
But at the moment they're trying to convert a historic building,
the old Royal Mint opposite the Tower of London, into
a new mega embassy, the biggest in Europe that's been
continuously rejected, partially on security grounds. So it is a
(26:24):
very difficult relationship that the UK is trying to weave
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
What about Prince Andrew in trouble again.
Speaker 10 (26:31):
In trouble again, and potentially more trouble coming. An email
has come to light in the last week, which was
sent after Prince Andrew said in that famous News Night
interview with Emily Matlist that he had gone to New
York to cut off all contacts because he was so honorable. Well,
it turns out a few months later he sent an
email to Jeffrey Epstein when that photograph of him and
(26:52):
Virginia Geffrey surfaced in newspapers saying to Epstein, we are
in this together, that they need to keep in close touch.
He expressed a wish to quote play some more soon.
So that was damaging enough. But now a new book,
posthumously published, Virginia Jaffray's autobiography, gives new and graphic detail
(27:13):
about her experiences with Donald Trump in working at his
Mari A Lago club and what she was made to
do by then Jeffrey Epstein, who was connected with her
via that club, and Prince Andrew. So when that book
gets fully published, we've only got an extract at the moment,
expect more embarrassing details for the British royal family.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
All right, vincentppreciate that. Vincent Mecavini a UK Europe corresponding.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Twelve to six Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
The mobras reckon we need to change our suppression laws.
They're calling out people on TikTok for putting Matt Mowbray
at the center of child abuse material case. This is
the guy you might have seen it in the news jail.
His permanent name suppression media describes them as an unnamed
member of a wealthy Kiwi family. So people online start
having the Rickens as they wanted to do the wrong.
(27:57):
Retired Lord Professor Bill Hodge is with us this morning. Bill,
Good morning, good morning to you. Didn't my brace have
a point here?
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Oh of course they do. Of course they do. They've
got a very good point. But this has been the stand.
It's not new. It's not as if they've just invented
this issue. It's been long understood that when one person's
name is suppressed, other people in the same general category
are under suspicion and rumors go around. For example, if
(28:24):
you said a music teacher in a high school has
been arrested, in charge, etc. Then every music teacher and
every high school is now under suspicion and has to
start to try to clear themselves. Happily, the Mowbrays seem
to be able to give enough facts to absolutely shut
down the rumor because of the clear contradictions that he's so.
(28:46):
But some people can't. And it is an issue. And
I think the problem is that instead of starting with
the principle of open justice, that the courts should be transparent,
the principles of just should be available to the people
so that they can know who is in the court
and why is in the court with very specific and
(29:08):
narrow exceptions. Isn't direct the victims? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, Bill? Is there a difference here between somebody who
is convicted of a crime in somebody and I know
in this case that they were found guilty, but yes,
merely being charged with a crime. You know, why don't
we just say someone's been charged with a crime, not
tell you who they work for, that they're wealthy, what
their name is, anything like that.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Generally we should know who was in the court. I
can remember a few years ago before your time, that
the Labor government passed the statute providing for that for
absolute name suppression. Not long afterwards you won't remember this,
but a labor MP was involved with two boys in
(29:54):
a motel room and the name was suppressed, and suddenly
every single Labor MP he was saying, no, it's not me, No, no,
it's not me. So there's still the aspersion and the
rumor and the taint on the reputation of all the
people in the same category. I think we should know
who was in the court.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
What can we do, what can the mobras do? And like,
if you are in the situation where you're named in
correctly what requests do you have.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Well, first of all, I think you say this person
is convicted. I think there's an appeal still going either
by you people or by the Crown that's going on
to the next level that the name should not be
permanently suppressed, although I am aware of some cases that
are because of some political appearance. In this case, if
(30:46):
the Mowbrays have a defendant, and I'm not really sure
how the concept of TikTok other social media can be
brought to bear. If there's a name associated with publication,
that's a good defamation act depending on exactly what was said.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Bill, appreciate your time. Bill Hodge, retired law professor. It
is eight to six, Mike here next News Talk, c B, Views.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
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Fallen One News talks.
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Away from sex Lacorner, who's the on again, off again
prime minister. Ever in France, he's survived two no confidence votes,
one from the left and one for the right, so
he lives to die another day and day will probably
come soon. If there are anything to if the previous
iterations are anything to go by Mike's in the studio
this morning on Friday, Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 15 (31:39):
Was laughing this morning at your show. Ryan and I
don't often do that, but.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It was lovely to have the to have the compliments
rolling and Mike at the end of the week when
you're feeling generous.
Speaker 15 (31:51):
You know how I feel about your show, Ryan. So
that those people nicking the votes in Papa toy Toe,
I mean, is that kn't have taken long because there
weren't many of them, But.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
The voting booth in Kuipit, I mean, who knows if
any of this is true exactly? You know what I mean.
Speaker 15 (32:06):
But this is the weirdest thing for something that really
we couldn't give the monkeys about, but now we're more
interested in the after effects.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Of This is the most interesting thing that has happened
during the local body election.
Speaker 15 (32:18):
It's weird, isn't as listen to a bill before this?
But tell you what, the b s A thing yesterday
and the Phillips thing all tie in together if you
think about it. So the Phillips defamation thing, you know,
the gagging order is a good example of what the
Mowbrays are currently dealing with in terms of the Internet has.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Destroyed everything we understand.
Speaker 15 (32:36):
Well, you know, you forget your courts. See, the courts
can't stand the idea and I mean we all I
think we all agree. The courts can't stand the idea
that they no longer have any control over us. And
that's the difficulty they face.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well, thing that I don't not so sure on is
if you are yet to be convicted of it more No, absolutely,
it's the innocence. You couldn't agree with. Consumption of innocence. Yeah,
your name, Your name can be out there and they say, oh,
well you might identify if they said, you know, broadcasters
or whatever. Then everyone else does well, just don't say
what their job.
Speaker 15 (33:06):
But media has got a Media has got a roll
because the Herald in particular are fascinated with this is
the whole well known sportsman and you're like well known entertainer.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I mean, what hell is that? It's the biggest come
down when you find out how it is.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You don't know.
Speaker 15 (33:21):
There's a guy accused currently of a certain behavior at
Michael Schumacher's house.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Have you followed this.
Speaker 15 (33:27):
He's an Australian he's an Australian racing driver. So the
headline and internationally the last couple of days has been
racing driver accused of When you turn out those names
been published this morning, you've never heard of it. No,
you know that's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
So you've got a bit of that in there.
Speaker 15 (33:41):
But I mean, what do you do? There is no answer,
is there?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
No, there's not, because you can't just bend over and say, well,
social media is here, so we'll just let the horse bolt.
Speaker 15 (33:49):
Yeah, but I mean how do you stop it? I mean,
jurisdictionally speaking, do you think Zuckerberg's sitting wherever Zuckerberg thinks
and goes a bit of tidy actor?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
People need to start sewing. That's what it wants. But
who are you doing well? Whoever's spreading the rumors on TikTok?
Speaker 15 (34:02):
Yeah, but what if they're in Sri Lanka?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
So gush Hire a Sri Lankan lawyer. See you Monday
for more.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Morning A six up to five on your Friday. The
mobras reckon we need to change our suppression laws. We'll
look at that before six. We're in the UK with
Vincent marg Foster on the Silver Ferns. They're off to
Ozzie Sands, Dame Knowles and Cameron Baggery. Are we overcooking
it on rate cuts?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
The agenda Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
The seventeenth of October. Venezuela and I are happy chappy
because Trump's doing covert CII operations in their country.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
They have emptied their prisons into the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
They came in through the.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Well, they came in through the border.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
They came in because we had an open border policy.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
And the other thing a drugs.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
We have a lot of drugs coming in from.
Speaker 7 (00:50):
That as well.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
CII. The Cia Maduro is calling it a coup detarc.
Republicans and Democrats aren't budging on the shutdown situation. Speaker
Mike Johnson's a crack at them.
Speaker 8 (01:01):
There is an incredible contrast right now between the two
parties that could not be more clear. This is not
your grandfather's Democratic Party. It truly has become the far
left Marxist left that are running that whole operation, and
it has real effects on real people, good like everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Now, the shutdown has lasted longer than the six Fire
and Gaza, although that is holding for now. Israel's returning
more bodies of Palestinians, NT Yahoo's still talking tough.
Speaker 9 (01:29):
Whoever raises their hand on us already knows that they
will pay a very heavy price for their aggression.
Speaker 10 (01:34):
We're determined to complete the victory that will affect our
lives for many years.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
A bit of a warning this morning from Britain's spy
agency that the terror threat's real and it's growing.
Speaker 11 (01:44):
Groups overseas are continuing their attempts to direct terrorism into
the UK and Europe. Al Qaida and Islamic stat are
once again becoming more ambitious, taking advantage of instability overseas
to gain firmer foothols.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Ryan Breed on earlier edition with r V Super Center
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Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'd be two is the number to text. I'd love
to hear from you this morning. Get your popcorn everyone,
we're going to Kuyper. The local body elections are officially now. Interesting.
You've got Trump of the North up there. He's saying,
in very trumpy and style that the election's bit rigged
eady to.
Speaker 12 (02:24):
Have a why down, you're not able to come up
and stand up here? Sit down, Take your seat, okay,
take your seat please. This is not a place where
you can come and do this. Take your seat.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
We're going to your journe meeting till tomorrow morning.
Speaker 13 (02:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It's all over. So it's back on this morning at
nine o'clock apparently is when they're back. So calls a
meeting and emergency meeting. Last night apparently there's a claim
there's a complaint that an EWE took over a voting
booth stop people from voting. Don't know whether that's true
or not. That's just what media is reporting. There was
a sign also, there's a photo of a sign that
said Maldy wars and this was on election day, which
(03:07):
you know you shouldn't try and influence people's vote. There
was a sign that supposedly said Maldy Wards of course,
no question. So someone complained, meeting gets called, crowd goes wild,
meeting gets adjourned back on this morning. So we don't
really know much, neither of the councilors by the sound
of it. But it's interesting because the race is so tight.
(03:27):
So you've got the incumbent guy, this is Jonathan Larsen,
the first and last time we'll mention the Kuai premiere
on the show. But he so he is the guy
that Trump has endorsed, so he's your Trump candidate. And
then you've got a three way race. You've got your
eweie man Snow, and then you've got another councilor his
name's Jason Smith, thirty one votes separating them either way.
(03:50):
Whatever happens with this meeting today, whatever happens with the
specials which are getting announced later today, this thing's going
to drag on because you've got groups now threatening a
judicial review and someone else is saying I'm going to
the Onboardsman Bryan Bridge five ten will keep you up
to date on newstalok ZB no doubt on what's going
on there now. Next week Monday, we get inflation for
(04:12):
the September quarter, so we've got the rbn Z cut
hopefully another twenty five points next month. Food prices yesterday
were off down point four that's for the month. Rent
lowest annual increase in fourteen years. So the theory is
that this makes up a quarter of the CPI. So
if a quarter of the CPI is going backwards or
(04:32):
not accelerating at the rate they were expecting, maybe we
won't hit three percent inflation. Maybe that will give the
Reserve Bank more cores to cut next month. Five to eleven.
We'll talk about this and we actually claim that we
might be overcooking it on interest rate cuts with Cambag.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
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Speaker 3 (05:01):
Point thirteen on News Talk said be Ritz says, Ryan,
send the netball girls up north to sort the local
elections out. That's not a bad idea, that's not a
bad shout at all. Talk to Mark Foster about the
going over to Australia. It's going to be much tougher
in terms of actual netball than it was against the
South Africans and if they lose, like if they lose
the Constellation Cup to Australia, does that then mean that
(05:23):
Dame Niles is a shoeing to come back because if
they lose without her then presumably they needed her, So
you would have no choice, would you. We'll talk to
marg Foster about that. Shortly five point thirteen, Graham Bridge
Inpimetrix brad Olsen's outfit, reckons we might be overcooking it
with interes straight cuts. They say the cuts have gone
so far that they've done their job. The effects won't
(05:43):
be felt until mid to late next year. Too much
stimulus and we get all too excited again and then
facing tickles up and then rate hikes from late next year.
Independent economist Cameron Bagriy with me this morning to chat
about it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Morning Cameron, well, good morning, nice to see you back.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, good to good to be back. What's the situation here?
Do you agree with this?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
You can argue both sides if you look at the
growth side of the equation and the growth side of
the equation and new zealing at the moment is still
pretty ana. So the reserve bands well justified by looking
the kind of up to the defaibilia and giving a
little bit of a of a shock, so to speak,
of the form of a lifelesial cash frow. The other
side is that giving the economy a little bit more
(06:29):
juici is not without risk, and head by inflation is
moving up. Core inflation looks a lot more contained. But
this is the reserve band that they just need to
be a little bit weary here, because if this economy
is kicking the gear, and I think it is going
to kick in the gear into twenty twenty six, you
could hit some capacity constraints pretty quickly. You hit capacity
(06:50):
constraints pretty quickly in FLAC starts to wear it's ugly
head again. And for a lot of people out there, Brian, Yeah,
most people do not think head by inflation is too
because you're seeing your electricity bill move up at a
double digit clip, your rates bills moving up at a
double digit clip, medical bills, they cost of food out
there across the country as well.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What's worse for the reserve bank going hard now and
risk reversing later, or you know, letting the pain drag
on and staying on one course.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's a Clayton's choice, you know, we're welcome to being
a central bank, and they need a lot of it's
about risk, risk management, and the Reserve Band obviously decided
after getting that week GDP number for Q two, but
they needed up the NTY a little bit. But if
you go to their document, you know their statement, their minutes,
they were still wary about some of those inflation risks because,
(07:42):
as I said, your headline inflation is moving up. They're
not focused on head by inflation. They're focused on core
inflation that looks a lot more sedate. But there's a
whole lot of things out there at the moment that
the Reserve Band can't control. You know, one of the
big problems for a central bank is that that they
sort of know where the economy is through a demand lens,
but they don't know where the economy is through a
(08:02):
supply lens. Yeah, this is how fast the economy can
grow the combination of immigration, capital, the combination in line
with productivity growth. And what we know is that that
line is a very weak number. And if that line
is even weaker than what the Reserve Band is estimating,
we get hit capacity constraints early in twenty twenty six,
(08:22):
on the assumption that this ecloney is going to kick
into gear as a whole lot more people roll of
those fixed mortgages. And we know there's a lot of
stiminess in the pipeline when it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Kicks into gear because it's been so long and dragged out.
When it kicks into gear, does it kick in it
third gear? Are we going to suddenly bolt out the gates.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I'm not convincing to get a bolt out of the gate.
And one of the reasons I'm not convincing in a
bolt out of the gate is the economy is not
just driven by what's called the cyclical leaders, and the
cyclical leaders of things such as interest rates coming down,
how much money to get it's pumping in, and it's
how much money the farmers have got that's something US dollar.
It's the likes of that three point two bidion that
(09:03):
could hurt farmers, wallets in the form of that consumer business.
So we know there's there's some pretty big checks that
they're going to come in. But to get the economy
ready kicking into gear, you need to see the housing
in a pretty pretty good space. Because the housing market's
got about three speeds for neutral and reverse. If you've
(09:23):
got a shortage of supply, you can't interstrates. Then you
can have typically one how of a construction boom. You
know what we got out there at the moment is
a population growth relative to supply I building consents. It
still looks like we're building too many houses as opposed
to not enough housing. Evaluations are not exactly what you're
called cheap. There's a whole lot of other economic fundamentals
(09:44):
across this economy. If you look at our infrastructure, you
look at shortage of energy, if you lock at what's
going on in regard to the quality of the roading system.
These things just hold the economy back through a structural lens.
In these are areas that the Reserve Bank are not
fixed by channing interest rates. Only time can through some
(10:04):
good economic policy.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Cameron Bagory, a lead economist at Baggery Economics, appreciate your time.
This morning is always interesting stuff. Eighteen after five. Marg
Foster on the Silver Ferns Next news talk, seed b.
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That'd be good morning.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It's five twenty nine two ninety two is the number
to text me Bill Hodge on this business with suppression
laws before six. Right now, things not getting any easier
for the Silver Ferns. You've got the Dame Knowles thing
happening and now they're going to go face the Aussies
in Australia for the Constellation Cut, the first of four
tests in Melbourne tonight. Margaret Foster is former Silver Fern
former coach of the Flames and the Steel, joins me
(10:47):
this morning. Marg Good morning, Good morning. So it's going
to be tough for them over there.
Speaker 14 (10:53):
Oh yeah, you know we came off last year, you know,
smoking them for three three in a row, so you know,
looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It is the Dame Noleane thing kind of hanging over
the camp or do you think I mean they did
it with the South Africa just brush it off?
Speaker 14 (11:11):
Yeah, I reckon like just you know what it's like
when there's a bit of chaos song, you're like you're
off the court. But then you know when that whistle
goes like everyone just gets on with it. And realistically,
from a coaching perspective, you know, you it's everything that
you do beforehand of you know, like that gets you
into the right state of mind, and I think those
(11:32):
athletes there they will be in the right state of mind.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Grace has said that she's unsaw yesterday she's going to
have a handwritten thing saying NT on her wristband, all
this kind of stuff, which is which is a lovely
show of support for Dame no Lean, but it's it's
sort of an old situation. It must be an odd
situation to be in.
Speaker 14 (11:54):
Yeah, it certainly is. And you know, it's nice that
she's you know, she's really shown that. You know, that's
call of darity towards her coach and you know, for
all the things that Knowles has helped her within her
game on and off the court, I think that's it's
quite nice, quite courageous of her to just step up
(12:17):
and stand out as she does, you know. But I
think that sometimes that can actually galvanize a team, and
I think that's massive like these moments, and I feel
that that's what will happen with the senior players. I'll
drive the standards.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
If they don't. If things go wrong, you know, if
we don't come away with the wins, is it inevitable,
then they'll have to bring Dame noling back. I mean,
how long does this drag on for?
Speaker 13 (12:45):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (12:45):
I know, like this it's absolutely getting ridiculous. And look
does it sort of mean that, like, you know, does
it take for us to lose this Constellation Cup for
nippings down to kind of acknowledge and get her back?
I don't know, but you know something's going to happen.
(13:08):
Like you know, it's just getting to be everyone is
talking about it, like just people in public.
Speaker 10 (13:13):
Everywhere I go.
Speaker 14 (13:14):
They're all coming up to me and just you know,
like it probably it puts Nitball, not necessarily, you know,
it does get people talking. It's great for our sport
in that respect.
Speaker 15 (13:24):
But yeah, you're talking about something but.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Positive mag Are you saying any publicity is good publicity?
Speaker 13 (13:32):
Well, we'll thinking that, you know, because you're talking like
just random people that probably don't even want They haven't
we even watched Knipball, but are now nipple fans, so you.
Speaker 14 (13:46):
Know they currently be good.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So in some ways, thank you Dame Knowles for taking
month for the team because it must be hard on her.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Well, it certainly is.
Speaker 14 (13:56):
And like to see her, you're like, you know, it's
she's take her her occupation of job taken away from
her for no reason, Like, yeah, it's kind of quite
hard being on the sideline, and also you know, like
her vision and also her her preparation for going into
(14:17):
this Constellation Cup. I mean it's been twelve months you know,
in the making, because you know, probably from from the
last one when they were just absolutely outstanding, so clinical,
so connected the Constellation Cup to win it last year,
so you know, not to be able to have the
(14:39):
ability to see if you can go one more, like
you know, like just take it up to another level
when she probably had the winning you know, she's got
the winning formula, so whatever she was doing was pretty
flipp and inspirational to be honest.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, Marg, I really appreciate having you on the show
this morning. He's got to talk Marg Foster, former silver
fin itself. I've also former coach of the Steel and
the Flames. Twenty five minutes after five, Y're on news
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a bit of comparison to today's lot.
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News Talk SEB five twenty seven. It's hard listening to
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like a little bit like we're being ripped off or
short changed by our current crop of leaders. A few
short generations ago, this country was a completely different place,
completely different place, before the internet, before the phones, before
all the anxiety, before career politicians. Politicians now come straight
(15:40):
out of school into UNI, into the debating club, into
the student union, then straight into parliament. Jim Bolger was
in parliament a very long time, sure, but he had
a productive life before it, leaving school at fifteen and
into work, hard work, manual work on the farm in
Taranaki and then later in Tequiti. Now it's straight from
school into parliament. Have you which parliament TV?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Lately?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
This is something I do and my grandma do very regularly.
We've always done it, and we always compare notes. We
are both so unimpressed. You've got MPs who literally don't
know how to ask a question. It's like watching a
video buffering. No idea about standing orders, no idea about
the rules that govern the place, and no real apparent
care to learn either. Just walk in, full of entitlement,
(16:23):
sit down and start yelling. One of the most important
tools in The modern MP's toolbox is the unwavering ability
to take offense at anything and everything in tolerance for
another's point of view. The antithesis, by the way of
Jim Bolger, is now commonplace. Where once there was decency,
there is mistrust, wisdom's being usurped by incompetence, and decorums
(16:45):
being biffed out the window and replaced with petulance. People
aren't recognized for their standing in the community and voted
into parliament, which is what used to happen. They're there
because politics is now an industry, and more importantly, nobody
else would hire them and pay what we do.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Ryan Bridge, wee.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Mugs twenty nine after five News Talk SPB nine two
ninety two is the number to text very quickly. This
is from Trump on Ukraine. He's on the phone with
Putin meeting with Zelenski today. They want a bunch of
Tomahawk missiles. We're going talked to Vincent McAvennie out of
the UK Europe After News Plus Suppression Laws with Bill Hodge,
News Talk SEBB.
Speaker 15 (17:29):
You said my Heart from the feedo.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and are the Supercenter explore these accessories and
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Speaker 3 (17:49):
Twenty four away from six News Talk SEBB coming out
the Mowbrays and suppression laws. We're head to London as well.
The Brits have caught a Chinese spy operation and they've
got more warnings about more of those ahead too.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A great speech from Casey Costello in the House. By
the way, I got lots of texts about Parliament TV. Ryan,
I don't watch Parliament TV. Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything.
It's a shame because it can be interested. It's one
of those things that's good to have on in the
background while you're doing other stuff and occasionally someone will
say something interesting. It's one of those Ryan never seen
or heard this behavior before in Parliament says, and this
(18:21):
is about the sort of decorum in the House. The
problem with Parliament TV is you can watch it on freeview,
but if you try and watch it online, they've changed
the way that you can watch it and it's no
longer as efficient. So I think they need to put
it on YouTube anyway. That's by the bye. Casey Costello
gave a speech. This is after Benjamin Doyle, who was
the Greens and who exit stage left. He gave quite
(18:43):
a scathing speech his valedictory, I suppose because he was
leaving the house after two minutes and he said that
it's not a safe place Parliament. It's a hostile place
unless you're a Cis white man. And then Casey Costello
comes in and says, actually, what are you to talking about?
Who are the leaders of your party?
Speaker 16 (19:02):
We had to endure a narrative that was not only
an insult to members of this side of the House,
but to the party that brought that member to this parliament.
The member was an MP and a party led by
two women. Yet we were told this is a hostile
and toxic place unless you're a CIS white man in
(19:25):
a black suit and a briefcase.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Fired up. Casey Costalgia didn't stop there either.
Speaker 16 (19:30):
What an insult to our proud legacy, the country that
was the first to give women the vote in the world.
The cowardice and ignorance of that parting shot by a
member who did nothing to use the privilege afforded by
being an MP in this parliament to throw parting shots
run out the door, believing there would be.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
No right of reply.
Speaker 16 (19:53):
Well, mister speaker, I am replying.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Wet you to away from the sex color Proctor and
Anne for us this morning. Calum, good morning, morning right,
So we've got a good breeding from the albatross this season.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Dear, most successful breeding season on record for our Royal Albatross, Ryan.
Thirty eight chicks have fledged from the tid Or Head
colony here on the Otago Peninsula. Eighteen of those chicks
are fitted with GPS trackers and most already well across
the Pacific heading for South America. The previous season record
(20:27):
was thirty three chicks that was set in the past
two seasons, but thirty eight for this one. The colony's
grown from one breeding pair back in nineteen thirty seven
to more than eighteen. How Doc says it's fitting to
have such a strong year as the colonies round the
clock live stream Royal cam is celebrating its tenth season.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
How's your weather?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Good day to be an albatross. Fine with strong norwesterlies
and twenty two today.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Thanks calm clear and christs. Hey Claire, good morning. You've
got a push there from a school to get attendance up.
Speaker 17 (20:59):
Yeah, and holy school principal believes this could be a
first for New Zealand. What the school's doing is promising
free stationary and uniforms next year to any students who
attend more than eighty percent of school time this term.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Now.
Speaker 17 (21:13):
Anonymous donors are behind this initiative, funding it. The principal,
Graham Norman, says this is just another step to help
the school's very low rate of attendance. He says they
also pick some students up in school vans to take
them to school. As a result, they do have attendance
rates growing. Norman says their community is really behind this idea.
(21:33):
They love it as it's something that can take the
pressure off the family at what is a very busy
time of year.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, drive them to school. Who would have thought? How's
your weather?
Speaker 17 (21:42):
Partly cloudy, A few showers from late this morning could
be heavy, then clearing to a fine afternoon northwesterlies turning
colder southwesterly a bit later and twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
All right, thank you Claire and Maxis and Wellington this morning.
Hey Max, good morning Tamotha. Paul's been in hospital. Yeah,
heart procedure.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
This is the time of the Paul the Green play
Wellington Central MP last night sharing a photo of herself
in Wellington Hospital a cardiac procedure where my doctors correct
and irregular heartbeat. She posted about it on social media,
starting her post simply I am disabled, full stop, and
then going on to say I am one of the
most disabled MPs, but try to keep this to myself
(22:19):
because I worry people will use it against me. Paul
says she also suffers from lupus, a rheumatoid arthritis. We
of course wish her the best. Her post also takes
a bit of a crack at Simeon Brown, a health
minister who clashed here in Wellington with some senior doctors
yesterday at their annual conference. Paul says she wants them
to strike. Simeon Brown believes they're crossing an ethical line
(22:41):
by picketing.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I hope she's okay. Did she really say I'm one
of the most disabled the MP's in Parliament?
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
It almost seems a bit braggy, doesn't it, But of
course in ill health at the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
We still wish her the best. But a bit of
an odd way to start a sentence. It's an unusual
just a point to point out but unusual.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Hey, how's your weather?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yeah, mostly fine today gusty Northerly's fifteen the high centrals on.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Thank you, Michael, good morning to you.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Is Nina is Neva hiding from me? She wasn't here yesterday.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
I think she's here todayware She's around somewhere.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I can't find her, Michael. More results. We've got more
developments from local elections overnight.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yes. Results coming through thick and fast throughout the nights,
including from Westland where there's really tight race between incumbent
Helen Nash and eighty two year old transgender businesswoman Jackie Grant.
Grant was leading early in the race, but we declared
it too close to call. The margin has been narrowing
now on these latest results, counting specials, Helen Nash has
been re elected mayor of Westland by eight votes. In Auckland,
(23:40):
the chief electoral officer has filed a complaint of alleged
electoral forward with police after allegations of severe elect malepractice
in Puppatoy Toy. The allegations include nightly vote stealing by
a team of young boys, voters being instructed on how
to vote inside the pollen booths and other instances of
voters in places like temples and churches being told how
to vote. We won't get final results for Auckland until
(24:03):
at least tomorrow now due to the sheer number of
special votes cast in the big city in Kaipua District.
We're expecting results today from that really tight mil race
three way race at the moment, outgoing mayor Craig Jepson
has called an unprecedented council meeting last night, saying he
isn't happy with how the election was operated and he
wants to ensure key Wes have a fear process. The
meeting was adjourned last night after interjections from members of
(24:25):
the public. It will resume again at nine aime of
this morning.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
All kicked off, got a bit rowdy, didn't it make
it already?
Speaker 14 (24:29):
Did?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Michael Seviel, who's our local government specialist with us in Auckland, and.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Just quickly on the weather fine apart from the crowds
and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Degrees forgive me, you should be doing this. Michael seventeen
away from Sex News Talk ZEBB. Vincent mcavnie is in
the UK for US next. Accorded to six News talk ZBB.
So four hundred and ten thousand people are on a
benefit right now. We had new numbers from MSD yesterday,
four hundred and ten thousand. That is a new record.
(24:58):
And job seeker benefits up six point four percent to
two hundred and seventeen thousand, eight hundred people are on
a job seeker benefit right now. Guess what, that's also
a record high. And this is Louise Upston's job. And
she's also tourism and that is improving. So she's going
to have a mixed bag when it comes to the
annual review. Sitting down for a one on one with
lux Income Christmas fourteen to six.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Now International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Whatster b my five warning about Chinese spies? Vincent mcavini
are UK europe Correspondent Vince and welcome, Hi, good morning.
So what are they saying? What's the problem with the
Chinese spies?
Speaker 10 (25:38):
Well, this is the annual address by the head of
mi I five, which is the domestic intelligence service here
in the UK. If anyone has seen the show Slow Horses,
they will know about what it does. You know on
fictionally at least, but the head of m I five
saying the big threat at the moment is a continuous
disruption of national security by Chinese agents include one concern
(26:01):
and operations stopped just in the past week. This is
rattling on as the UK tries to reset its relationship
with China, trying to get more investment for the country.
But at the moment they're trying to convert a historic building,
the old Royal Mint opposite the Tower of London, into
a new mega embassy, the biggest in Europe that's been
continuously rejected, partially on security grounds. So it is a
(26:24):
very difficult relationship that the UK is trying to weave
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
What about Prince Andrew in trouble again.
Speaker 10 (26:31):
In trouble again, and potentially more trouble coming. An email
has come to light in the last week, which was
sent after Prince Andrew said in that famous News Night
interview with Emily Matlist that he had gone to New
York to cut off all contacts because he was so honorable. Well,
it turns out a few months later he sent an
email to Jeffrey Epstein when that photograph of him and
(26:52):
Virginia Geffrey surfaced in newspapers saying to Epstein, we are
in this together, that they need to keep in close touch.
He expressed a wish to quote play some more soon.
So that was damaging enough. But now a new book,
posthumously published, Virginia Jaffray's autobiography, gives new and graphic detail
(27:13):
about her experiences with Donald Trump in working at his
Mari A Lago club and what she was made to
do by then Jeffrey Epstein, who was connected with her
via that club, and Prince Andrew. So when that book
gets fully published, we've only got an extract at the moment,
expect more embarrassing details for the British royal family.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
All right, vincentppreciate that. Vincent Mecavini a UK Europe corresponding.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Twelve to six Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
The mobras reckon we need to change our suppression laws.
They're calling out people on TikTok for putting Matt Mowbray
at the center of child abuse material case. This is
the guy you might have seen it in the news jail.
His permanent name suppression media describes them as an unnamed
member of a wealthy Kiwi family. So people online start
having the Rickens as they wanted to do the wrong.
(27:57):
Retired Lord Professor Bill Hodge is with us this morning. Bill,
Good morning, good morning to you. Didn't my brace have
a point here?
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Oh of course they do. Of course they do. They've
got a very good point. But this has been the stand.
It's not new. It's not as if they've just invented
this issue. It's been long understood that when one person's
name is suppressed, other people in the same general category
are under suspicion and rumors go around. For example, if
(28:24):
you said a music teacher in a high school has
been arrested, in charge, etc. Then every music teacher and
every high school is now under suspicion and has to
start to try to clear themselves. Happily, the Mowbrays seem
to be able to give enough facts to absolutely shut
down the rumor because of the clear contradictions that he's so.
(28:46):
But some people can't. And it is an issue. And
I think the problem is that instead of starting with
the principle of open justice, that the courts should be transparent,
the principles of just should be available to the people
so that they can know who is in the court
and why is in the court with very specific and
(29:08):
narrow exceptions. Isn't direct the victims? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, Bill? Is there a difference here between somebody who
is convicted of a crime in somebody and I know
in this case that they were found guilty, but yes,
merely being charged with a crime. You know, why don't
we just say someone's been charged with a crime, not
tell you who they work for, that they're wealthy, what
their name is, anything like that.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Generally we should know who was in the court. I
can remember a few years ago before your time, that
the Labor government passed the statute providing for that for
absolute name suppression. Not long afterwards you won't remember this,
but a labor MP was involved with two boys in
(29:54):
a motel room and the name was suppressed, and suddenly
every single Labor MP he was saying, no, it's not me, No, no,
it's not me. So there's still the aspersion and the
rumor and the taint on the reputation of all the
people in the same category. I think we should know
who was in the court.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
What can we do, what can the mobras do? And like,
if you are in the situation where you're named in
correctly what requests do you have.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Well, first of all, I think you say this person
is convicted. I think there's an appeal still going either
by you people or by the Crown that's going on
to the next level that the name should not be
permanently suppressed, although I am aware of some cases that
are because of some political appearance. In this case, if
(30:46):
the Mowbrays have a defendant, and I'm not really sure
how the concept of TikTok other social media can be
brought to bear. If there's a name associated with publication,
that's a good defamation act depending on exactly what was said.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Bill, appreciate your time. Bill Hodge, retired law professor. It
is eight to six, Mike here next News Talk, c B, Views.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
And Views you trust to start your day. It's earlier
This ship with Ryan Bridge and r V Supercenter explore
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Speaker 2 (31:18):
Fallen One News talks.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Away from sex Lacorner, who's the on again, off again
prime minister. Ever in France, he's survived two no confidence votes,
one from the left and one for the right, so
he lives to die another day and day will probably
come soon. If there are anything to if the previous
iterations are anything to go by Mike's in the studio
this morning on Friday, Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 15 (31:39):
Was laughing this morning at your show. Ryan and I
don't often do that, but.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It was lovely to have the to have the compliments
rolling and Mike at the end of the week when
you're feeling generous.
Speaker 15 (31:51):
You know how I feel about your show, Ryan. So
that those people nicking the votes in Papa toy Toe,
I mean, is that kn't have taken long because there
weren't many of them, But.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
The voting booth in Kuipit, I mean, who knows if
any of this is true exactly? You know what I mean.
Speaker 15 (32:06):
But this is the weirdest thing for something that really
we couldn't give the monkeys about, but now we're more
interested in the after effects.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Of This is the most interesting thing that has happened
during the local body election.
Speaker 15 (32:18):
It's weird, isn't as listen to a bill before this?
But tell you what, the b s A thing yesterday
and the Phillips thing all tie in together if you
think about it. So the Phillips defamation thing, you know,
the gagging order is a good example of what the
Mowbrays are currently dealing with in terms of the Internet has.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Destroyed everything we understand.
Speaker 15 (32:36):
Well, you know, you forget your courts. See, the courts
can't stand the idea and I mean we all I
think we all agree. The courts can't stand the idea
that they no longer have any control over us. And
that's the difficulty they face.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well, thing that I don't not so sure on is
if you are yet to be convicted of it more No, absolutely,
it's the innocence. You couldn't agree with. Consumption of innocence. Yeah,
your name, Your name can be out there and they say, oh,
well you might identify if they said, you know, broadcasters
or whatever. Then everyone else does well, just don't say
what their job.
Speaker 15 (33:06):
But media has got a Media has got a roll
because the Herald in particular are fascinated with this is
the whole well known sportsman and you're like well known entertainer.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I mean, what hell is that? It's the biggest come
down when you find out how it is.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You don't know.
Speaker 15 (33:21):
There's a guy accused currently of a certain behavior at
Michael Schumacher's house.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Have you followed this.
Speaker 15 (33:27):
He's an Australian he's an Australian racing driver. So the
headline and internationally the last couple of days has been
racing driver accused of When you turn out those names
been published this morning, you've never heard of it. No,
you know that's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
So you've got a bit of that in there.
Speaker 15 (33:41):
But I mean, what do you do? There is no answer,
is there?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
No, there's not, because you can't just bend over and say, well,
social media is here, so we'll just let the horse bolt.
Speaker 15 (33:49):
Yeah, but I mean how do you stop it? I mean,
jurisdictionally speaking, do you think Zuckerberg's sitting wherever Zuckerberg thinks
and goes a bit of tidy actor?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
People need to start sewing. That's what it wants. But
who are you doing well? Whoever's spreading the rumors on TikTok?
Speaker 15 (34:02):
Yeah, but what if they're in Sri Lanka?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
So gush Hire a Sri Lankan lawyer. See you Monday
for more.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
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Speaker 1 (34:11):
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