December 18, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Francesca Rudkin Full Show Podcast Friday the 19th of December 2025, The economy’s rebounded into 1.1% growth in the September quarter, ahead of forecasts Independent Economist Cameron Bagrie shares his thoughts.
Schools are dealing with more fights and assaults than ever before, PPTA President Chris Abercrombie tells Francesca why the problem has got worse.
Gloriavale's school will shut down from January next year, educational researcher and community activist Liz Gordon tells Francesca what will happen from here.
Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Vincent McAviney has the latest on Zelensky urging European Union leaders to loan billions of euros in frozen Russian money to fund Ukraine and Teachers in England will be given training to spot and tackle misogyny in the classroom.
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That'd be good morning, Welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francisca Rudkin,
joining you for the final Early edition of twenty twenty five.
Good to be with you. You're most welcome to contact
me anytime this morning. You can flict me a text
on ninety two ninety two. You can email me at
Francesca at NEWSTALKVVB dot co dot nz. Coming up on
the show today, Gloria Vale Christian School is to close
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from the twenty sixth of January next year, so what
next for the children? We look at why violent behavior
in schools is increasing and what we can do about it.
And before the end of the hour, Cameron Bagrey is
with us on the geddip.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Figures the agenda.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's Friday, the nineteenth of December and Anthony Albanesi says
Australia well tough and hate speech laws after the deadly
Bondi Beach attack on a Jewish festival. He's promising action
against those spreading hate and radicalization.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
The Mestapahome Affairs will also have new powers to cancel
or reject visus for those who spread hat and division
in this country.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Meanwhile, the family has held a funeral for the youngest victim,
ten year old Matilda, killed among fifteen.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
From darkness they struck to where candles glowed bright. A
child of celebration was lost to Terah's ninth. Yet in
the harshest sorrow, her memory will shine, a beacon of
her love for earthly life has gone.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
A former French anethetist has been jailed for life after
poisoning thirty patients, twelve of them died. Frederic Pishier was
found to have tampered with ivy bags using lethal chemicals.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Patients will be looked after not by him directly, but
by fellow and esthetists, and then he was able to
intervene in many of them as the kind of savior.
He was the first responder when things went wrong and said,
I know it's this, this is the here's the antidode.
His prestige was boosted, that of his fellows was gravely damaged,
and that the prosecution said was his motivation.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
His victims ranged from a four year old child to
an eighty nine year old and finally, Zelenski's urging EU
leaders in Brussels to unlock the frozen Russian assets to
loan to the Ukraine. Two hundred and ten billion euro
was sitting there, most of it in Belgium. Russia's warning
them off, but without new money, Ukraine's water chest runs
dry within months.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
If by spring Ukraine does not receive the corresponding tranch that,
in case of peace, Ukraine will use for recovery. Ukraine
will use this money for first and foremost drone production.
If this trunch does not come, Ukraine will have significantly
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decreased drone production.
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And that's the agenda. It is nine past five.
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That'd be okay, There could be a bit of a
problem if you've done your Christmas shopping with Ikea. They've
hit a bit of a hurdle. You know that twenty
five thousand people applied for jobs to work there. They
initially were going to hire four hundred. They're then up
to it to five hundred because they knew it was
going to be a busy launch. But something tells me
that they maybe should have grabbed a few more students
to work over the summer as well, because reports are
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coming in that people are going to be waiting for
up to six weeks to get their orders. And this
is because, as you kind of expect, the sales and
orders secured over the first few days surpassed the expectation,
so they've just been flooded. Basically, they're taking action. They've
extended shifts, they're increasing capacity where possible to move things along,
but it's got to the point now where they're actually
(03:50):
just going to take the phone off the hok So
it is IKA is shutting down it's customer supports center
from today for the rest of the week, so I
presume that's just till Sunday, so it's team can focus
on rebook and custom orders and resolving outstanding cases and
things like I think click and collect and some delivery
services are temporarily unavailable while they kind of catch up.
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And look, if you're a customer and you'd be waiting,
there's a possibility that they're going to be in touch
with you on the next day or suddenly know what's
going on. Anyway, it's a bit of a mess, right,
and it is a shame because it puts a damna
on the excitement of Ikea arriving in New Zealand. And
if the product is here on the ground, in the warehouses,
it really shouldn't be this hard. Gosh. I hope someone
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warned the Swedish that the New Zealanders love to complain,
but look, we should give them some grace and some
time to sort it out. I've always said you should
never judge a TV show on its first episode, you
should never buy first generation tech, you should shouldn't go
to a restaurant on opening night. And now I'm adding
to the mix that you should never order online from
a global retail giant in the first month of its
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operation in a new country. I mean, there was gonna
always you know, there's always teething problems out there. Look,
I'm confident they're going to sort it out, but I'm
not gonna lie. I have been really amazed at how
great other retailers have been getting product to us so
close to Christmas. The couriers are working their butts off,
but things are arriving in days. I had a parcel
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arrived from Australia in four days the week before Christmas,
unheard of, so everyone else seems to manage to do it.
So best of luck. If you're waiting for your Christmas
gifts from my care, You're with Early Edition. It's eleven
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That'd be It's five point thirteen. Gloria Vale's School will
shut down from January next year. It has failed two
Education Review Office audits and in July was found to
be physically and emotionally unsafe space for students. Liss Gordon
is an educational researcher and she joins me. Now, good morning,
Liz Bakona. This has been a long time coming, hasn't it.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Oh yeah, I've been calling for a closure of the
school for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Okay, So will the children be allowed to be homeschooled
or part of Takura or are they losing the ability
to do that as well?
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Well? Everybody has the right to an education in New
Zealand and it's up to the Ministry of Education to
ensure that they get a different one. But it's more
complicated than that too, because these children have been educated
for years in fundamental as Christian beliefs. It was a
private school and they were taught their own curriculum. They
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were taught that girls must submit themselves to their husbands,
that their only role was to leave school at fifteen
and to serve the community, and to serve their husbands
and have as many babies as possible. The men were
taught that their job was on the farms and to
again of the community. There was sexual abuse, there was violence,
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you know that. They're so so it's not just a
matter of continuing their education, having examine place to resolve
all the past issues and the and and give these
children some human rights and.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What so, what is the best outcome for these children.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
They should go to it. They should go to an
ordinary school. But I think, Mike get you see, they
Gloria Vale built a big school. It was a private school,
so got subsidies from from the tax player for many
years and it built out of that a big school
which is sitting there on the grounds. And my own
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view is that the the ministry should in the interim
negotiate to put in a group a number of professional teachers,
bring them, bring them to the community and have the
kids taught there. Now, it's not the ideal situation that
the nearest school is all good. Half th requorters are
now away. There is another one a bit further away
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from that. They're both very small schools. I don't think
that to kurna education where children get papers through the
male is going to cut it. Well, not through the
male now it's it's online, But I don't think that's
going to cut it. I don't think homeschooling is going
to cut it because the parents of those children were
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also brought up in that ideology and have no other
focus for educating them, and so it's just going to
continues the abuse of education un less than some sort
of interventional So.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
As the public schools that are around them, would they
be resourced well enough to support a transition like this
to have these children come from Gloriaville into their schools.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
So they need new classrooms two hundred and twenty four
I believe children, So that's nine or ten classrooms that
those classrooms would need to be everything from year one
right up to year thirteen, and of course the answer
is no. Well, I think it was more from double
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size of the post of schools. So it's awfully late
in the year.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Awfully late in the year for two hundred and twenty
four abused children to get a decent education in twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And as you point out, very complicated, quite a complex
situation to try and fix there. Thank you so much, Liz,
really appreciate your thoughts this morning. It's not all roses
in our schools either, with teachers having to deal with
an increase and violent behavior. We're going to talk about
that next. It is seventeen past.
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It'd be good to have you with us. It's twenty
past five, So schools are dealing with more fights and
a so than ever before. This year, there've been over
twelve thousand incidents of students being stood down, suspended, excluded,
or expelled for physical assault on other students and staff.
That number has risen forty nine percent in the last
six years. PPTA President Chris Abercrombie joins me. Now, good morning, Chris, how.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Are you good morning?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Good?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Thank you, excellent. How widespread is this issue?
Speaker 8 (10:24):
From my understanding, it's pretty widespread from primary to secondary,
and it's you know, it's real concern that these numbers
are increasing.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
The teacher's well trained to handle a violent or difficult situation.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Like this increasingly, so there was an element of restraint,
restraint course that teachers had to do. It was online.
But there's a real concern about the significant unmet need
in our schools and this is an expression of that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What is a significant unnet meat unnet unmet need?
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Well, we know, we know our children come the school
with incredibly complex needs, way more complex than when I
was at school, and you know, mental health, bed other issues.
You know were understanding how brains work a lot better.
But we know our schools are under pressure and this
is an expression of that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Thanks sure, and Chris. Do we know why there's been
an increase over the last six years, of course, which
takes us back to just pre COVID.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Well, I think again, there's that unmet need. We know
our student populations increased significantly. We know we've got feature shortages,
we know class sizes are increasing. All of these things
just put pressure on the system and you know, and
sometimes unfortunately that pressure shows itself in this way with
these young people.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
The government's twenty twenty five budget included seven hundred and
forty seven million boost for learning support, which seems pretty substantial.
Is that going some way to help I mean, does
that get to get more teacher aides and classrooms to
help out?
Speaker 8 (11:56):
Well that for a primary yes, that there will have
out that that was specifically a primary focus. There wasn't
much for secondary in that and so you know, that's
one of the things the minister has said is that
this year's budget, well next year's budget sorry, it is
going to be a secondary teacher focus or a secondary focus.
So we're really hopeful to see that support we need
there because you know, no young person decides they're going
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to come along and you know, get into a fight
at school or the teacher or something like that. You know,
there's lots going on in these young people's lives and
sometimes we need to make sure we can support them.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Is that what it's going to take. You need to
have sort of two things on the go. Here, maybe
a little bit more support in the classroom with a
teacher aide, and then more better accessibility to you know,
whether it's counselors and psychologists and the people that these
children need to help sort their situations out.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, particularly that pastoral care support. Something we've
been asking well for a long time because we know
this is something that teachers have been saying to us,
is that you know, our young people have really, our
children have really you know, it's a lot more there's
a lot more conflex world than when I was at
school in the eighties and nineties, So you know, young
people are dealing with a lot of issues that the
lot of older people does never never even considered.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
To stand downs deal with the problem at all.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Yes and no, yes and no. So in a sense,
you know, often it can be a nice catalyst for
a young person. You know, you can get support for them,
you can you know, it can bring about change and
some but sometimes it's a sort of a cool down
period for everyone involved. And unfortunately too. I mean I
grew up in a small school area and I taught
in single schools and their own school in the community.
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Sometimes that student has to come back to that school.
There's no other choice, there's no other school for them
to go to. So sometimes it's just pausing the problem,
but sometimes it is also a catalyst to get more support.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Chris as always, really appreciate your time this morning. Have
a lovely Christmas. Thank you so much. That was PPTA
President Chris Abercrombie there. Thanks for your texts as well. Hi, Francesca.
Awesome service from Passport office. Submitted my application on Saturday
and received my passport by Wednesday lunchtime. Chris, it's incredible.
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Maybe they're just they're ramping up for the fact that
everyone's passports that they all going to haven't got like
a million going to expire or something in the next
year or something, and they're going to be inundated. They're
ready to go. But that is very good news. Thank
you for your text You can text anytime. On ninety
two ninety two, it's twenty four past five.
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It's five twenty six. You're early edition. Confirmation that the
economy grew strongly in the third quarter of the year
is welcome news before Christmas. Finance Minister Nicola Willis stated
in the first line of her press release yesterday, welcome
news may be a bit of an understatement given the
context of recent attempts to undermine Nicola Willis in the
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government's approach to writing the economy. Willis also needed the
good GEDDP news after a disappointing half y economic and
fiscal update on Tuesday, in which almost every economic and
fiscal indication moved it was so slightly in the wrong direction.
The GDP results showed the economy to better than expected
in the September quarter, growing one point one percent. GDP
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per capita ro zero point nine percent for the quarter,
if that's how you prefer to measure it. The increase
in economic activity was broad based, with increases in fourteen
of the sixteen industry that Stats New Zealand looked at,
so that this is good news. But the problem with
GDP figures is that they're provisional and often revised, and
that's what's happened with the previous June quarter, which did
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worse than previously thought, falling one percent. If you look
at it from an annual point of view. From September
to September, the economy contracted point five percent. So these
numbers provide an overview of what's going on. They are
a sign of a gentle uptick rather than a booming recovery,
but they don't give politicians a true sense of what's
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going on in New Zealander's day to day lives. As
Liam Dan wrote in The Herald this week, GDP doesn't
capture way distribution. It doesn't tell us about the health
of our nation or the overall happiness of its people.
As the end of the year approaches, Luxeon and Willis
survive twenty five to enjoy a summer barbecue in a
Bevy or two and get to return to their leadership
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roles in twenty twenty six. But hopefully they and their
political colleagues will spend some time over the summer listening
to ordinary Kiwis to get a sense of how New
Zealanders feel about the cost of living, job security, and
the challenges facing those running a business. Yesterday's GDP figures
give Willis breathing room, but the pressure is on next year.
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Willis is excellent at sticking to her core messaging of
fiscal discipline without causing misery to voters. It's a plan
that holds some risk there's a little room to deal
with the consequence of potential natural disasters or global financial
crisis in the near future. But look as steady as
you go message will remain next year. And yet there's
a sense the hard yards haven't started yet. If we're
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going to meet the twenty twenty nine thirty surplus target,
the rule that is likely going to have to come
out again. Social services and public services will most likely
be the targets. In the meantime, we can head into
the new year with some cautious optimism that the economy
may have picked a look around the corner. I like
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the expression one of my listeners suggested to me on Sunday,
brick by Brick in twenty six, maybe then we might
have built something a little bit more stable by twenty
twenty seven, Z B. Brick by Brick. It feels about right,
doesn't it. I know some people are keen to you
know it will fix in twenty six, and let's fix
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it in twenty six, but I don't know. It feels
a bit hopeful we'll be back shortly. You're with any addition, the.
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This is early edition on news Talk, said b I'm
Francisco Budkins filling in for Andrew Dickens who is on
Drive today. Thank you for being with us. And the
next half are we head to Europe where Zinski is
trying to convince the EU leaders to loan billions of
euros and frozen Russian money to Ukraine's cause a lot
of that money is sitting in Belgium and they're not
too keen on the idea because they feel that they're
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going to be the ones they're going to deal with
the repercussions. Anyway, we're going to get an update on
what is happening there. And also Cameron bag Grey is
with us before six on the GDP figures. Thank you
for your feedback. We've been talking about the glory of
our school. One text reads, all good to close the school,
but how on earth are they going to integrate these
kids into mainstream schooling with the past schooling that they've had.
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And I think you've kind of hit the nail on
the head there, which is the hardest thing possible. I
thought Liz had a really good idea, because you don't
want them suddenly being homeschooled or doing correspondence school because
you have the same issues of safety, in appropriate education
and things that they have by going to the school.
Very difficult to get them out and into the community,
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to these tiny schools where they'll obviously need a whole
lot of new resources. So do you send on teachers
and some a lot of pastoral care and set up
a school within the school that exists there, and you
teach them the curriculum and things. There's going to be
a lot of catching up that needs to be done,
and then of course where do the teachers come from.
It's kind of it's a really tricky one, isn't it. Anyway?
Thank you for your feedback ninety two to eighty two.
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You can keep the feedback coming. It is twenty one.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
To six us dogs. Then be okay, let's.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Head around the country now and joining me from need
and Callum Proctor, good morning, Warning Princisca, right, no one's
put their hand up to fill the vacant seat on
the Central Otago District council.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
No, that's right, the council is still operating. One councilor
short in the Vincent Ward. This includes Alexandra and Clyde.
It really is the heart of Central Otago. And this
is because you remember Dave McKenzie step down following those
social media allegations over unethical behavior during his time as
a council contractor. Mayor Tama Allis told us that she's
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optimistic someone will step up, but she's unsure what will
happen if nobody does. She says there's never been a
more exciting time to be involved in local government. Candidates
have until Monday to file a nomination form.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And Dunedin's weather today, Callum, small like.
Speaker 10 (20:47):
Winter today, rain easing to rain eases this afternoon strong
Southerly's here today the high sixteen.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Thank you so much, Callum, and have a lovely Christmas.
Claire Sherwood joins us in christ Church warning Claire.
Speaker 11 (21:00):
Merry Christmas, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Christ Church City Mission is welcoming all foods and treats
for families this Christmas.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Yes, still a last minute plea for some donations for
the mission. They are providing their usual this Christmas, which
is a standard food parcel as well as a special
festive one that will be going to about six thousand
people the mission has helped throughout the year. That has
been their system for a while. It's in favor of
the old lunch where hundreds would turn out and spend
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the day together over lunch. The families instead get given
this coupon. They collect a parcel over a period of
three days leading up to Christmas Day. The city missioner here,
Karen Haynes, says they will take any food donations still
because there is always more people to help. She says
life at the mission doesn't finish on Christmas Day either,
and demand is expected to continue well into January and beyond.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And how's the weather in christ Each today? Oh a
bit miserable here as well.
Speaker 11 (21:53):
We've got rain developing about mid day, could be heavy
and thundery with hail late this afternoon. Northerlys changing st
at south Westerly high of twenty.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Four south charming clear. Thank you so much for your
contribution to the show throughout the year. Have a great break.
Max Toll is with us in Wellington.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
What's with the Christmas trees in Wellington?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (22:15):
Look well, some idiot in tim Adoo a few days
ago set their town Christmas tree alight and destroyed it.
Now we've got a similar case in Featherston. In the
widered Apper this is a hand crafted tree made by
a community group. It's been up in the town center
a few days now, vandalized and destroyed, beautifully decorated with
recycled material, hundreds of hours to make, and smashed and
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left in pieces. Unfortunately, unlike in Timodoo, which has seen
a local donator new tree, there's not enough time to
replace this one in Featherstone. And again, unlike tim Adoo,
we don't know at this point who's responsible. South widered
Appa mayor Fran Wilders are very disappointed and doesn't know
anyone in the community who would do this.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
It's bad for mex Yeah, Wellington today.
Speaker 12 (23:01):
Cloudy, the showers stronger northerlyas nineteen the high All.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Right, then, have a lovely Christmas, Max, thank you so
much and joining me now in Auckland, Wendy Peatree, good morning,
good morning, lovely, lovely to have you in the studio
and you too, a big boost for Auckland.
Speaker 13 (23:16):
Yes, well, the upgrade to the home of ASB Classic
tennis tournament that has been confirmed it's got the go ahead.
Auckland Council secured a fifteen million dollar revamp of The
Man Who Could Doctor Arena, including that five million dollars
for a new roof. ASB Classic ads two million dollars
to Auckland's gdpach year, but Wayne Brown said rains has
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spoiled play too often. Auckland Unlimited CEO Nick Hall said
the upgrades will open the door to more events and
more reasons to visit the city center. He says they
see the city center as a stage and what events
work wear.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So Wendy, have they announced what they're going to do?
Is it a full is it a full roof? Is
it a retractable roof?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Listen?
Speaker 13 (23:54):
It's a very good question that I wish I knew
the answer to, but I can certainly find out.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
But been million dollars, it's probably what the budget allows.
That's probably the answer, isn't it.
Speaker 13 (24:04):
I'm so retractable?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's because I think surely, let's just surely it would be.
Let's just insist that that's what we want.
Speaker 13 (24:11):
Or elubritic that means a bit high brow.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Twenty victory thank you so much. Oh, today's with the.
Speaker 13 (24:17):
Weather year not quite so God does it today as
cloudy periods around with a few showers easing in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But it does a bit all over the place, isn't okay?
What's fatastic with the theme around the whole country into
any one degree high? So that's still lovely. Thank you
so much, Wendy. Right next off we are up to
UK and Europe. It is seventeen to six Neez.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
TALKSB International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business, Vincent Mecca.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Then he joins us now to talk about what's going
on in the UK and Europe.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Good morning, Vincent, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So zelenskis and Brussels. He's urging the European Union leaders
to release it of this money, that is this frozen
Russian money to fund Ukraine's military and economic needs. I
understand a lot of it is in Belgium and they're
not hugely keen on releasing it for fear of repercussions.
Where are they it?
Speaker 14 (25:13):
Well, this meeting is going on in Brussels with all
the EU leaders and Zelenski he is saying that the
country will run out of money if they don't get
a fresh injection, because they're making a lot of their
own drones and munitions to fight off Russia. Now, two
hundred and ten billion euros worth of Russian accets are
currently being held in a Belgium based organization. The European
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nations have been saying for years that this money should
be used to fund the war effort of Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Until now.
Speaker 14 (25:41):
Belgium has tried to sort of sort of not block this,
but has been cautious over this because they're saying that
they're worried about the repercussions for them, but they're essentially saying, look,
if the whole of the EU is on board with
this and is willing to sort of take the risk
with us, then we'll jump into the unknown and do this.
But there are some in the EU, the likes of
Victor Allband, the leader of Hungary, who is trying to
(26:03):
potentially block this. But Ursul Lon Delyon, who is the
sort of European Commission chief, has said we're not leaving
this summer until we've got a solution to funding this.
So there could be some positive news for Ukraine in
the next few hours after what has been a really
difficult few months with the White House of drifting back
into the more Russian perspective.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Vincent's schools in England are trying to prevent the radicalization
of young men and so teachers are now going to
be given training to spot and tackle misogyny in the classroom.
Speaker 14 (26:36):
Yeah, this is part of strategy to try to stop this,
and particularly with the links to extreme pornography. So pornography
here in the UK online has been put behind an
age barrier. You basically you've seen a massive drop in
young people being able to access it, so you have
to have a valid ID showing that you're over eighteen.
But another part of this has been an announcement today
(26:57):
millions of pounds being spent to train teachers to spot
the signs of misogyny in the classroom, particularly from the
influence of the likes of Andrew Tate, and to try
to course correct the behavior at a young age. But
also if it's got more severe, special courses that young
men can in particular can be sent on to try
to sort of deradicalize them from these misogynist, extreme misogynist views.
(27:19):
And this is part of a joined up strategy that
the government's pursuing. This is a landmark strategy they're saying
eighteen months in the making since they came into government,
which looks across department's education, health, other departments as well business,
to try to tackle violence against women. Two women a
week are killed here in the UK because of domestic
(27:40):
violence and this is something that the Prime Minister in
the government here want to make their sort of landmark
piece of legislation this year.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
We will very keen to see how that goes. Vincent,
thank you so much for your time this morning. Have
a lovely Christmas.
Speaker 15 (27:55):
Zid me.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
The economy is rebounded into one point one percent growth
in the September quarter, ahead of forecasts. Economists have been
picking a rise of between point eight and one percent.
Business services, manufacturing and construction led the recovery. Finally, some
signs of life in the economy. Independent economist Cameron Beagrie
joins me. Now, good morning, Cameron, thanks for your time.
Speaker 15 (28:17):
Not good morning, Commorros.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Okay, is it too early to celebrate.
Speaker 15 (28:24):
Well, there's this economy'scot forward propulsion. If you ever look
at the second quarter number, what I've got revised down
to minus one percent we're center plus one point one
in September quarter. Do I think those two quarters that
down and the up were a fair reflection of the economy.
The answer is no. I think there's a little bit
of underlying now is across a flat overall was probably
(28:46):
about right. But if you look at most of the indicators,
look your GDP obviously ours were concrete poured. You look
at bank lending into the business sector in the month
of October, there's a there's a pretty deep array of
greenshoe there that are starting to shel It's a pretty
consistent story. We've got forward propulsion. Are we knocking the
ball out of the park as a one point one
(29:07):
quarterly rise would imply. The answer is no, But we
be back on the positive side of the leisure, which
is the one thing we want.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Do we Why have the previous quarters and compared to
this quarter, why have they been kind of up and down?
What's been contributing to that?
Speaker 15 (29:22):
Well, you can have a look at some yet one
off such as your methanex shutting down production. I think
Statistics Zone has got a little bit of noise going
on with their what's called seasonal factors. Your pre code
versus post COVID, you've seen different changes and behavior which
is knocked around some of the balancing items as well. Yeah,
so sometimes when you see that sort of noise within
economic data, you just need to step back sometimes and
(29:44):
take a little bit of deep breath. And I think
there's a bit of an overreaction towards the negative number.
It's going to little be a little bit of overreaction
in regard to hype towards the positive number. But your
net on net, the economy is definitely moving forward.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Do you think that's going to settle down now? Do
you think we can expect more steady GDP results.
Speaker 15 (30:01):
I wouldn't say we've got to expect steady GDP results
that are going forward. It's still like a two steps forward,
one step back economy.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Here.
Speaker 15 (30:09):
We've got massive cycical coil winds. If you look at
the farming sector. The farming sector has done pretty well
in regard to the combination of commodity prices, low New
Zealand dollar, but the heat's starting to come out of
those dairy prices that we're keeping a close eye on that.
For twenty twenty six, you got the Fontpia injection of
about two point one billion into the economy. You've got
the rolling impact of lower interest rates, you've got investment boost. Yes,
(30:34):
there's an awful lot of cyclical support. What we've also
got is some pretty massive structural headwinds, and one of
the big ones it's just your energy prices, the d
industrialization of New Zealand as we respond to high gas prices.
We've got still continued weak productivity growth. There's still a
little bit of nervous us out there towards the property market.
Your people are cleaning up balance. It's yes, cypical support.
(30:56):
There's still a whole lot of structural factors that we
need to get on top of. Before you called what
they are as a staying growth period of consistency.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Now it feels like we've sort of peaked and look
around the corner as opposed to heading sort of into
a booming recovery, doesn't it.
Speaker 15 (31:13):
Yeah, well it's recovery. I don't think it's going to
be like your normal what's called cyclical recovery, which is
normally of the v variety. You go down pretty hard
and then you come back up pretty aggressive the other side.
As monetary policy works at magic on the intrasensitive parts
of the economy. Construction, residential, property, retail and tripically respond
and a pretty aggressive fection factor. Yeah, because we've got
(31:36):
those structural headwinds and the property market. Yeah, there's still
about doubled evaluation. It wasn't two thousands. So property prices
have come down, but property prices are not cheap what
they were twenty to thirty years ago. Yes, you've got
these structural constraints on the magnitude of this economic upswing
that people are penciling in. Are we going to see
(31:56):
an upswing? Yes? Is it going to be a four
to five percent growth up what you've seen historically when
you're you're hit the wall, which we did hit the wall. Yeah,
the answer is no. Now the expectations a sort of
two to three percent quot in the next sort of
twelve months are are pretty reasonable.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Cameron has always really appreciate your thoughts. Have a lovely
Christmas for the best that was Cameron Bagriy there aking
to hear your thoughts to I mean, I think he's right,
you know, I think we do get a little bit
we get a bit worked up, don't we about the
numbers and the figures and whether they're up and down
and what it means. But they are a broadway for
us to get a sense of where the economy is going.
But as I said before, I really do hope that
the politicians are also spent a bit of time over
(32:32):
the summer talking to the everyday key were you out
there and getting a sense of what life is like
for them as well, to get a sort of a
bit of a better understanding of things. It is six
to six News Talks at.
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All in one News Talks B.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Heather Busy is coming up at six am. It's a
bit of a different kind of vibe when you walk
into the studio compared to Mike hosking about now, he'd
be clearing away all my stuff. He'd be putting out
his nuts in front of you.
Speaker 14 (33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, he'd be putting out his nuts. He would have
changed the you know, the temperature and the studio and
he'd literally and then I just feel like I've got
to go because I'm in the way, you know.
Speaker 16 (33:14):
So he's the kind of you're having dinner and he's
vacuuming around you.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You're just of often with a piece of paper.
Speaker 16 (33:20):
Yeah, we started chatting about the temperature because I'm going
to be honest with you, Franchesca.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's like the Arctic and it's not that bad. Never
brings a puffer jacket under prove the point.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
It is what am I wearing?
Speaker 16 (33:33):
I am wearing a j cotton jersey and you have
got no sleeves and it is at least two to
three degrees to flip.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's cold and head that I don't do a lot
of early mornings, and to be honest, to keep yourself,
I'm awake, I'm trying to what's coming up on the show.
Speaker 16 (33:49):
Listen, We're going to talk about the GDP. Because I
don't know about you. This is the most wonderful way
to leave the year. This is it's the last working
day for a lot of people today and what a
great way to go out, knowing that we're already growing.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's going to be next year. It should be easier.
Speaker 16 (34:01):
If you're running a shop, you're not going to have
to fight as hard and hustle has had.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 16 (34:06):
Also, going to talk about what's happened with Jenny Wiley
over at You told me earlier today, why are you like,
get over it?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's net No, I didn't. I said, I'm sick of
politicians and everybody putting their nose in.
Speaker 16 (34:17):
Now it's limo to a fascinating story.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
People are People are fascinating, So we'll talk about netball.
Have a great day. I'll see you Sunday nine am
for the Sunday Session. Take care.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
Keep shirt.
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That'd be good morning, Welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francisca Rudkin,
joining you for the final Early edition of twenty twenty five.
Good to be with you. You're most welcome to contact
me anytime this morning. You can flict me a text
on ninety two ninety two. You can email me at
Francesca at NEWSTALKVVB dot co dot nz. Coming up on
the show today, Gloria Vale Christian School is to close
(00:33):
from the twenty sixth of January next year, so what
next for the children? We look at why violent behavior
in schools is increasing and what we can do about it.
And before the end of the hour, Cameron Bagrey is
with us on the geddip.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Figures the agenda.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's Friday, the nineteenth of December and Anthony Albanesi says
Australia well tough and hate speech laws after the deadly
Bondi Beach attack on a Jewish festival. He's promising action
against those spreading hate and radicalization.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
The Mestapahome Affairs will also have new powers to cancel
or reject visus for those who spread hat and division
in this country.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Meanwhile, the family has held a funeral for the youngest victim,
ten year old Matilda, killed among fifteen.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
From darkness they struck to where candles glowed bright. A
child of celebration was lost to Terah's ninth. Yet in
the harshest sorrow, her memory will shine, a beacon of
her love for earthly life has gone.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
A former French anethetist has been jailed for life after
poisoning thirty patients, twelve of them died. Frederic Pishier was
found to have tampered with ivy bags using lethal chemicals.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Patients will be looked after not by him directly, but
by fellow and esthetists, and then he was able to
intervene in many of them as the kind of savior.
He was the first responder when things went wrong and said,
I know it's this, this is the here's the antidode.
His prestige was boosted, that of his fellows was gravely damaged,
and that the prosecution said was his motivation.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
His victims ranged from a four year old child to
an eighty nine year old and finally, Zelenski's urging EU
leaders in Brussels to unlock the frozen Russian assets to
loan to the Ukraine. Two hundred and ten billion euro
was sitting there, most of it in Belgium. Russia's warning
them off, but without new money, Ukraine's water chest runs
dry within months.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
If by spring Ukraine does not receive the corresponding tranch that,
in case of peace, Ukraine will use for recovery. Ukraine
will use this money for first and foremost drone production.
If this trunch does not come, Ukraine will have significantly
(02:50):
decreased drone production.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And that's the agenda. It is nine past five.
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Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Francesca
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Speaker 3 (03:05):
That'd be okay, There could be a bit of a
problem if you've done your Christmas shopping with Ikea. They've
hit a bit of a hurdle. You know that twenty
five thousand people applied for jobs to work there. They
initially were going to hire four hundred. They're then up
to it to five hundred because they knew it was
going to be a busy launch. But something tells me
that they maybe should have grabbed a few more students
to work over the summer as well, because reports are
(03:28):
coming in that people are going to be waiting for
up to six weeks to get their orders. And this
is because, as you kind of expect, the sales and
orders secured over the first few days surpassed the expectation,
so they've just been flooded. Basically, they're taking action. They've
extended shifts, they're increasing capacity where possible to move things along,
but it's got to the point now where they're actually
(03:50):
just going to take the phone off the hok So
it is IKA is shutting down it's customer supports center
from today for the rest of the week, so I
presume that's just till Sunday, so it's team can focus
on rebook and custom orders and resolving outstanding cases and
things like I think click and collect and some delivery
services are temporarily unavailable while they kind of catch up.
(04:12):
And look, if you're a customer and you'd be waiting,
there's a possibility that they're going to be in touch
with you on the next day or suddenly know what's
going on. Anyway, it's a bit of a mess, right,
and it is a shame because it puts a damna
on the excitement of Ikea arriving in New Zealand. And
if the product is here on the ground, in the warehouses,
it really shouldn't be this hard. Gosh. I hope someone
(04:34):
warned the Swedish that the New Zealanders love to complain,
but look, we should give them some grace and some
time to sort it out. I've always said you should
never judge a TV show on its first episode, you
should never buy first generation tech, you should shouldn't go
to a restaurant on opening night. And now I'm adding
to the mix that you should never order online from
a global retail giant in the first month of its
(04:54):
operation in a new country. I mean, there was gonna
always you know, there's always teething problems out there. Look,
I'm confident they're going to sort it out, but I'm
not gonna lie. I have been really amazed at how
great other retailers have been getting product to us so
close to Christmas. The couriers are working their butts off,
but things are arriving in days. I had a parcel
(05:15):
arrived from Australia in four days the week before Christmas,
unheard of, so everyone else seems to manage to do it.
So best of luck. If you're waiting for your Christmas
gifts from my care, You're with Early Edition. It's eleven
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That'd be It's five point thirteen. Gloria Vale's School will
shut down from January next year. It has failed two
Education Review Office audits and in July was found to
be physically and emotionally unsafe space for students. Liss Gordon
is an educational researcher and she joins me. Now, good morning,
Liz Bakona. This has been a long time coming, hasn't it.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Oh yeah, I've been calling for a closure of the
school for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Okay, So will the children be allowed to be homeschooled
or part of Takura or are they losing the ability
to do that as well?
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Well? Everybody has the right to an education in New
Zealand and it's up to the Ministry of Education to
ensure that they get a different one. But it's more
complicated than that too, because these children have been educated
for years in fundamental as Christian beliefs. It was a
private school and they were taught their own curriculum. They
(06:39):
were taught that girls must submit themselves to their husbands,
that their only role was to leave school at fifteen
and to serve the community, and to serve their husbands
and have as many babies as possible. The men were
taught that their job was on the farms and to
again of the community. There was sexual abuse, there was violence,
(07:05):
you know that. They're so so it's not just a
matter of continuing their education, having examine place to resolve
all the past issues and the and and give these
children some human rights and.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What so, what is the best outcome for these children.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
They should go to it. They should go to an
ordinary school. But I think, Mike get you see, they
Gloria Vale built a big school. It was a private school,
so got subsidies from from the tax player for many
years and it built out of that a big school
which is sitting there on the grounds. And my own
(07:45):
view is that the the ministry should in the interim
negotiate to put in a group a number of professional teachers,
bring them, bring them to the community and have the
kids taught there. Now, it's not the ideal situation that
the nearest school is all good. Half th requorters are
now away. There is another one a bit further away
(08:09):
from that. They're both very small schools. I don't think
that to kurna education where children get papers through the
male is going to cut it. Well, not through the
male now it's it's online, But I don't think that's
going to cut it. I don't think homeschooling is going
to cut it because the parents of those children were
(08:30):
also brought up in that ideology and have no other
focus for educating them, and so it's just going to
continues the abuse of education un less than some sort
of interventional So.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
As the public schools that are around them, would they
be resourced well enough to support a transition like this
to have these children come from Gloriaville into their schools.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
So they need new classrooms two hundred and twenty four
I believe children, So that's nine or ten classrooms that
those classrooms would need to be everything from year one
right up to year thirteen, and of course the answer
is no. Well, I think it was more from double
(09:13):
size of the post of schools. So it's awfully late
in the year.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Awfully late in the year for two hundred and twenty
four abused children to get a decent education in twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And as you point out, very complicated, quite a complex
situation to try and fix there. Thank you so much, Liz,
really appreciate your thoughts this morning. It's not all roses
in our schools either, with teachers having to deal with
an increase and violent behavior. We're going to talk about
that next. It is seventeen past.
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It'd be good to have you with us. It's twenty
past five, So schools are dealing with more fights and
a so than ever before. This year, there've been over
twelve thousand incidents of students being stood down, suspended, excluded,
or expelled for physical assault on other students and staff.
That number has risen forty nine percent in the last
six years. PPTA President Chris Abercrombie joins me. Now, good morning, Chris, how.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Are you good morning?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Good?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Thank you, excellent. How widespread is this issue?
Speaker 8 (10:24):
From my understanding, it's pretty widespread from primary to secondary,
and it's you know, it's real concern that these numbers
are increasing.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
The teacher's well trained to handle a violent or difficult situation.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Like this increasingly, so there was an element of restraint,
restraint course that teachers had to do. It was online.
But there's a real concern about the significant unmet need
in our schools and this is an expression of that.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What is a significant unnet meat unnet unmet need?
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Well, we know, we know our children come the school
with incredibly complex needs, way more complex than when I
was at school, and you know, mental health, bed other issues.
You know were understanding how brains work a lot better.
But we know our schools are under pressure and this
is an expression of that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Thanks sure, and Chris. Do we know why there's been
an increase over the last six years, of course, which
takes us back to just pre COVID.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Well, I think again, there's that unmet need. We know
our student populations increased significantly. We know we've got feature shortages,
we know class sizes are increasing. All of these things
just put pressure on the system and you know, and
sometimes unfortunately that pressure shows itself in this way with
these young people.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
The government's twenty twenty five budget included seven hundred and
forty seven million boost for learning support, which seems pretty substantial.
Is that going some way to help I mean, does
that get to get more teacher aides and classrooms to
help out?
Speaker 8 (11:56):
Well that for a primary yes, that there will have
out that that was specifically a primary focus. There wasn't
much for secondary in that and so you know, that's
one of the things the minister has said is that
this year's budget, well next year's budget sorry, it is
going to be a secondary teacher focus or a secondary focus.
So we're really hopeful to see that support we need
there because you know, no young person decides they're going
(12:17):
to come along and you know, get into a fight
at school or the teacher or something like that. You know,
there's lots going on in these young people's lives and
sometimes we need to make sure we can support them.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Is that what it's going to take. You need to
have sort of two things on the go. Here, maybe
a little bit more support in the classroom with a
teacher aide, and then more better accessibility to you know,
whether it's counselors and psychologists and the people that these
children need to help sort their situations out.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, particularly that pastoral care support. Something we've
been asking well for a long time because we know
this is something that teachers have been saying to us,
is that you know, our young people have really, our
children have really you know, it's a lot more there's
a lot more conflex world than when I was at
school in the eighties and nineties, So you know, young
people are dealing with a lot of issues that the
lot of older people does never never even considered.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
To stand downs deal with the problem at all.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Yes and no, yes and no. So in a sense,
you know, often it can be a nice catalyst for
a young person. You know, you can get support for them,
you can you know, it can bring about change and
some but sometimes it's a sort of a cool down
period for everyone involved. And unfortunately too. I mean I
grew up in a small school area and I taught
in single schools and their own school in the community.
(13:32):
Sometimes that student has to come back to that school.
There's no other choice, there's no other school for them
to go to. So sometimes it's just pausing the problem,
but sometimes it is also a catalyst to get more support.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Chris as always, really appreciate your time this morning. Have
a lovely Christmas. Thank you so much. That was PPTA
President Chris Abercrombie there. Thanks for your texts as well. Hi, Francesca.
Awesome service from Passport office. Submitted my application on Saturday
and received my passport by Wednesday lunchtime. Chris, it's incredible.
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Maybe they're just they're ramping up for the fact that
everyone's passports that they all going to haven't got like
a million going to expire or something in the next
year or something, and they're going to be inundated. They're
ready to go. But that is very good news. Thank
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It's five twenty six. You're early edition. Confirmation that the
economy grew strongly in the third quarter of the year
is welcome news before Christmas. Finance Minister Nicola Willis stated
in the first line of her press release yesterday, welcome
news may be a bit of an understatement given the
context of recent attempts to undermine Nicola Willis in the
(14:48):
government's approach to writing the economy. Willis also needed the
good GEDDP news after a disappointing half y economic and
fiscal update on Tuesday, in which almost every economic and
fiscal indication moved it was so slightly in the wrong direction.
The GDP results showed the economy to better than expected
in the September quarter, growing one point one percent. GDP
(15:09):
per capita ro zero point nine percent for the quarter,
if that's how you prefer to measure it. The increase
in economic activity was broad based, with increases in fourteen
of the sixteen industry that Stats New Zealand looked at,
so that this is good news. But the problem with
GDP figures is that they're provisional and often revised, and
that's what's happened with the previous June quarter, which did
(15:31):
worse than previously thought, falling one percent. If you look
at it from an annual point of view. From September
to September, the economy contracted point five percent. So these
numbers provide an overview of what's going on. They are
a sign of a gentle uptick rather than a booming recovery,
but they don't give politicians a true sense of what's
(15:53):
going on in New Zealander's day to day lives. As
Liam Dan wrote in The Herald this week, GDP doesn't
capture way distribution. It doesn't tell us about the health
of our nation or the overall happiness of its people.
As the end of the year approaches, Luxeon and Willis
survive twenty five to enjoy a summer barbecue in a
Bevy or two and get to return to their leadership
(16:15):
roles in twenty twenty six. But hopefully they and their
political colleagues will spend some time over the summer listening
to ordinary Kiwis to get a sense of how New
Zealanders feel about the cost of living, job security, and
the challenges facing those running a business. Yesterday's GDP figures
give Willis breathing room, but the pressure is on next year.
(16:36):
Willis is excellent at sticking to her core messaging of
fiscal discipline without causing misery to voters. It's a plan
that holds some risk there's a little room to deal
with the consequence of potential natural disasters or global financial
crisis in the near future. But look as steady as
you go message will remain next year. And yet there's
a sense the hard yards haven't started yet. If we're
(16:58):
going to meet the twenty twenty nine thirty surplus target,
the rule that is likely going to have to come
out again. Social services and public services will most likely
be the targets. In the meantime, we can head into
the new year with some cautious optimism that the economy
may have picked a look around the corner. I like
(17:18):
the expression one of my listeners suggested to me on Sunday,
brick by Brick in twenty six, maybe then we might
have built something a little bit more stable by twenty
twenty seven, Z B. Brick by Brick. It feels about right,
doesn't it. I know some people are keen to you
know it will fix in twenty six, and let's fix
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it in twenty six, but I don't know. It feels
a bit hopeful we'll be back shortly. You're with any addition, the.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
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Best, Questmas A flast fust Yes, Questmas.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
This is early edition on news Talk, said b I'm
Francisco Budkins filling in for Andrew Dickens who is on
Drive today. Thank you for being with us. And the
next half are we head to Europe where Zinski is
trying to convince the EU leaders to loan billions of
euros and frozen Russian money to Ukraine's cause a lot
of that money is sitting in Belgium and they're not
too keen on the idea because they feel that they're
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going to be the ones they're going to deal with
the repercussions. Anyway, we're going to get an update on
what is happening there. And also Cameron bag Grey is
with us before six on the GDP figures. Thank you
for your feedback. We've been talking about the glory of
our school. One text reads, all good to close the school,
but how on earth are they going to integrate these
kids into mainstream schooling with the past schooling that they've had.
(19:07):
And I think you've kind of hit the nail on
the head there, which is the hardest thing possible. I
thought Liz had a really good idea, because you don't
want them suddenly being homeschooled or doing correspondence school because
you have the same issues of safety, in appropriate education
and things that they have by going to the school.
Very difficult to get them out and into the community,
(19:28):
to these tiny schools where they'll obviously need a whole
lot of new resources. So do you send on teachers
and some a lot of pastoral care and set up
a school within the school that exists there, and you
teach them the curriculum and things. There's going to be
a lot of catching up that needs to be done,
and then of course where do the teachers come from.
It's kind of it's a really tricky one, isn't it. Anyway?
Thank you for your feedback ninety two to eighty two.
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You can keep the feedback coming. It is twenty one.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
To six us dogs. Then be okay, let's.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Head around the country now and joining me from need
and Callum Proctor, good morning, Warning Princisca, right, no one's
put their hand up to fill the vacant seat on
the Central Otago District council.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
No, that's right, the council is still operating. One councilor
short in the Vincent Ward. This includes Alexandra and Clyde.
It really is the heart of Central Otago. And this
is because you remember Dave McKenzie step down following those
social media allegations over unethical behavior during his time as
a council contractor. Mayor Tama Allis told us that she's
(20:31):
optimistic someone will step up, but she's unsure what will
happen if nobody does. She says there's never been a
more exciting time to be involved in local government. Candidates
have until Monday to file a nomination form.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And Dunedin's weather today, Callum, small like.
Speaker 10 (20:47):
Winter today, rain easing to rain eases this afternoon strong
Southerly's here today the high sixteen.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Thank you so much, Callum, and have a lovely Christmas.
Claire Sherwood joins us in christ Church warning Claire.
Speaker 11 (21:00):
Merry Christmas, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Christ Church City Mission is welcoming all foods and treats
for families this Christmas.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Yes, still a last minute plea for some donations for
the mission. They are providing their usual this Christmas, which
is a standard food parcel as well as a special
festive one that will be going to about six thousand
people the mission has helped throughout the year. That has
been their system for a while. It's in favor of
the old lunch where hundreds would turn out and spend
(21:27):
the day together over lunch. The families instead get given
this coupon. They collect a parcel over a period of
three days leading up to Christmas Day. The city missioner here,
Karen Haynes, says they will take any food donations still
because there is always more people to help. She says
life at the mission doesn't finish on Christmas Day either,
and demand is expected to continue well into January and beyond.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And how's the weather in christ Each today? Oh a
bit miserable here as well.
Speaker 11 (21:53):
We've got rain developing about mid day, could be heavy
and thundery with hail late this afternoon. Northerlys changing st
at south Westerly high of twenty.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Four south charming clear. Thank you so much for your
contribution to the show throughout the year. Have a great break.
Max Toll is with us in Wellington.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
What's with the Christmas trees in Wellington?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (22:15):
Look well, some idiot in tim Adoo a few days
ago set their town Christmas tree alight and destroyed it.
Now we've got a similar case in Featherston. In the
widered Apper this is a hand crafted tree made by
a community group. It's been up in the town center
a few days now, vandalized and destroyed, beautifully decorated with
recycled material, hundreds of hours to make, and smashed and
(22:38):
left in pieces. Unfortunately, unlike in Timodoo, which has seen
a local donator new tree, there's not enough time to
replace this one in Featherstone. And again, unlike tim Adoo,
we don't know at this point who's responsible. South widered
Appa mayor Fran Wilders are very disappointed and doesn't know
anyone in the community who would do this.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
It's bad for mex Yeah, Wellington today.
Speaker 12 (23:01):
Cloudy, the showers stronger northerlyas nineteen the high All.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Right, then, have a lovely Christmas, Max, thank you so
much and joining me now in Auckland, Wendy Peatree, good morning,
good morning, lovely, lovely to have you in the studio
and you too, a big boost for Auckland.
Speaker 13 (23:16):
Yes, well, the upgrade to the home of ASB Classic
tennis tournament that has been confirmed it's got the go ahead.
Auckland Council secured a fifteen million dollar revamp of The
Man Who Could Doctor Arena, including that five million dollars
for a new roof. ASB Classic ads two million dollars
to Auckland's gdpach year, but Wayne Brown said rains has
(23:36):
spoiled play too often. Auckland Unlimited CEO Nick Hall said
the upgrades will open the door to more events and
more reasons to visit the city center. He says they
see the city center as a stage and what events
work wear.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So Wendy, have they announced what they're going to do?
Is it a full is it a full roof? Is
it a retractable roof?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Listen?
Speaker 13 (23:54):
It's a very good question that I wish I knew
the answer to, but I can certainly find out.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
But been million dollars, it's probably what the budget allows.
That's probably the answer, isn't it.
Speaker 13 (24:04):
I'm so retractable?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's because I think surely, let's just surely it would be.
Let's just insist that that's what we want.
Speaker 13 (24:11):
Or elubritic that means a bit high brow.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Twenty victory thank you so much. Oh, today's with the.
Speaker 13 (24:17):
Weather year not quite so God does it today as
cloudy periods around with a few showers easing in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But it does a bit all over the place, isn't okay?
What's fatastic with the theme around the whole country into
any one degree high? So that's still lovely. Thank you
so much, Wendy. Right next off we are up to
UK and Europe. It is seventeen to six Neez.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
TALKSB International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business, Vincent Mecca.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Then he joins us now to talk about what's going
on in the UK and Europe.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Good morning, Vincent, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So zelenskis and Brussels. He's urging the European Union leaders
to release it of this money, that is this frozen
Russian money to fund Ukraine's military and economic needs. I
understand a lot of it is in Belgium and they're
not hugely keen on releasing it for fear of repercussions.
Where are they it?
Speaker 14 (25:13):
Well, this meeting is going on in Brussels with all
the EU leaders and Zelenski he is saying that the
country will run out of money if they don't get
a fresh injection, because they're making a lot of their
own drones and munitions to fight off Russia. Now, two
hundred and ten billion euros worth of Russian accets are
currently being held in a Belgium based organization. The European
(25:35):
nations have been saying for years that this money should
be used to fund the war effort of Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Until now.
Speaker 14 (25:41):
Belgium has tried to sort of sort of not block this,
but has been cautious over this because they're saying that
they're worried about the repercussions for them, but they're essentially saying, look,
if the whole of the EU is on board with
this and is willing to sort of take the risk
with us, then we'll jump into the unknown and do this.
But there are some in the EU, the likes of
Victor Allband, the leader of Hungary, who is trying to
(26:03):
potentially block this. But Ursul Lon Delyon, who is the
sort of European Commission chief, has said we're not leaving
this summer until we've got a solution to funding this.
So there could be some positive news for Ukraine in
the next few hours after what has been a really
difficult few months with the White House of drifting back
into the more Russian perspective.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Vincent's schools in England are trying to prevent the radicalization
of young men and so teachers are now going to
be given training to spot and tackle misogyny in the classroom.
Speaker 14 (26:36):
Yeah, this is part of strategy to try to stop this,
and particularly with the links to extreme pornography. So pornography
here in the UK online has been put behind an
age barrier. You basically you've seen a massive drop in
young people being able to access it, so you have
to have a valid ID showing that you're over eighteen.
But another part of this has been an announcement today
(26:57):
millions of pounds being spent to train teachers to spot
the signs of misogyny in the classroom, particularly from the
influence of the likes of Andrew Tate, and to try
to course correct the behavior at a young age. But
also if it's got more severe, special courses that young
men can in particular can be sent on to try
to sort of deradicalize them from these misogynist, extreme misogynist views.
(27:19):
And this is part of a joined up strategy that
the government's pursuing. This is a landmark strategy they're saying
eighteen months in the making since they came into government,
which looks across department's education, health, other departments as well business,
to try to tackle violence against women. Two women a
week are killed here in the UK because of domestic
(27:40):
violence and this is something that the Prime Minister in
the government here want to make their sort of landmark
piece of legislation this year.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
We will very keen to see how that goes. Vincent,
thank you so much for your time this morning. Have
a lovely Christmas.
Speaker 15 (27:55):
Zid me.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
The economy is rebounded into one point one percent growth
in the September quarter, ahead of forecasts. Economists have been
picking a rise of between point eight and one percent.
Business services, manufacturing and construction led the recovery. Finally, some
signs of life in the economy. Independent economist Cameron Beagrie
joins me. Now, good morning, Cameron, thanks for your time.
Speaker 15 (28:17):
Not good morning, Commorros.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Okay, is it too early to celebrate.
Speaker 15 (28:24):
Well, there's this economy'scot forward propulsion. If you ever look
at the second quarter number, what I've got revised down
to minus one percent we're center plus one point one
in September quarter. Do I think those two quarters that
down and the up were a fair reflection of the economy.
The answer is no. I think there's a little bit
of underlying now is across a flat overall was probably
(28:46):
about right. But if you look at most of the indicators,
look your GDP obviously ours were concrete poured. You look
at bank lending into the business sector in the month
of October, there's a there's a pretty deep array of
greenshoe there that are starting to shel It's a pretty
consistent story. We've got forward propulsion. Are we knocking the
ball out of the park as a one point one
(29:07):
quarterly rise would imply. The answer is no, But we
be back on the positive side of the leisure, which
is the one thing we want.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Do we Why have the previous quarters and compared to
this quarter, why have they been kind of up and down?
What's been contributing to that?
Speaker 15 (29:22):
Well, you can have a look at some yet one
off such as your methanex shutting down production. I think
Statistics Zone has got a little bit of noise going
on with their what's called seasonal factors. Your pre code
versus post COVID, you've seen different changes and behavior which
is knocked around some of the balancing items as well. Yeah,
so sometimes when you see that sort of noise within
economic data, you just need to step back sometimes and
(29:44):
take a little bit of deep breath. And I think
there's a bit of an overreaction towards the negative number.
It's going to little be a little bit of overreaction
in regard to hype towards the positive number. But your
net on net, the economy is definitely moving forward.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Do you think that's going to settle down now? Do
you think we can expect more steady GDP results.
Speaker 15 (30:01):
I wouldn't say we've got to expect steady GDP results
that are going forward. It's still like a two steps forward,
one step back economy.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Here.
Speaker 15 (30:09):
We've got massive cycical coil winds. If you look at
the farming sector. The farming sector has done pretty well
in regard to the combination of commodity prices, low New
Zealand dollar, but the heat's starting to come out of
those dairy prices that we're keeping a close eye on that.
For twenty twenty six, you got the Fontpia injection of
about two point one billion into the economy. You've got
the rolling impact of lower interest rates, you've got investment boost. Yes,
(30:34):
there's an awful lot of cyclical support. What we've also
got is some pretty massive structural headwinds, and one of
the big ones it's just your energy prices, the d
industrialization of New Zealand as we respond to high gas prices.
We've got still continued weak productivity growth. There's still a
little bit of nervous us out there towards the property market.
Your people are cleaning up balance. It's yes, cypical support.
(30:56):
There's still a whole lot of structural factors that we
need to get on top of. Before you called what
they are as a staying growth period of consistency.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Now it feels like we've sort of peaked and look
around the corner as opposed to heading sort of into
a booming recovery, doesn't it.
Speaker 15 (31:13):
Yeah, well it's recovery. I don't think it's going to
be like your normal what's called cyclical recovery, which is
normally of the v variety. You go down pretty hard
and then you come back up pretty aggressive the other side.
As monetary policy works at magic on the intrasensitive parts
of the economy. Construction, residential, property, retail and tripically respond
and a pretty aggressive fection factor. Yeah, because we've got
(31:36):
those structural headwinds and the property market. Yeah, there's still
about doubled evaluation. It wasn't two thousands. So property prices
have come down, but property prices are not cheap what
they were twenty to thirty years ago. Yes, you've got
these structural constraints on the magnitude of this economic upswing
that people are penciling in. Are we going to see
(31:56):
an upswing? Yes? Is it going to be a four
to five percent growth up what you've seen historically when
you're you're hit the wall, which we did hit the wall. Yeah,
the answer is no. Now the expectations a sort of
two to three percent quot in the next sort of
twelve months are are pretty reasonable.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Cameron has always really appreciate your thoughts. Have a lovely
Christmas for the best that was Cameron Bagriy there aking
to hear your thoughts to I mean, I think he's right,
you know, I think we do get a little bit
we get a bit worked up, don't we about the
numbers and the figures and whether they're up and down
and what it means. But they are a broadway for
us to get a sense of where the economy is going.
But as I said before, I really do hope that
the politicians are also spent a bit of time over
(32:32):
the summer talking to the everyday key were you out
there and getting a sense of what life is like
for them as well, to get a sort of a
bit of a better understanding of things. It is six
to six News Talks at.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
B the first Word on the News of the Day
early edition with Francesca Rudker and are the super Center
explore are these eccessories and servicing?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
All in one News Talks B.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Heather Busy is coming up at six am. It's a
bit of a different kind of vibe when you walk
into the studio compared to Mike hosking about now, he'd
be clearing away all my stuff. He'd be putting out
his nuts in front of you.
Speaker 14 (33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, he'd be putting out his nuts. He would have
changed the you know, the temperature and the studio and
he'd literally and then I just feel like I've got
to go because I'm in the way, you know.
Speaker 16 (33:14):
So he's the kind of you're having dinner and he's
vacuuming around you.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You're just of often with a piece of paper.
Speaker 16 (33:20):
Yeah, we started chatting about the temperature because I'm going
to be honest with you, Franchesca.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's like the Arctic and it's not that bad. Never
brings a puffer jacket under prove the point.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
It is what am I wearing?
Speaker 16 (33:33):
I am wearing a j cotton jersey and you have
got no sleeves and it is at least two to
three degrees to flip.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's cold and head that I don't do a lot
of early mornings, and to be honest, to keep yourself,
I'm awake, I'm trying to what's coming up on the show.
Speaker 16 (33:49):
Listen, We're going to talk about the GDP. Because I
don't know about you. This is the most wonderful way
to leave the year. This is it's the last working
day for a lot of people today and what a
great way to go out, knowing that we're already growing.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's going to be next year. It should be easier.
Speaker 16 (34:01):
If you're running a shop, you're not going to have
to fight as hard and hustle has had.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 16 (34:06):
Also, going to talk about what's happened with Jenny Wiley
over at You told me earlier today, why are you like,
get over it?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's net No, I didn't. I said, I'm sick of
politicians and everybody putting their nose in.
Speaker 16 (34:17):
Now it's limo to a fascinating story.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
People are People are fascinating, So we'll talk about netball.
Have a great day. I'll see you Sunday nine am
for the Sunday Session. Take care.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
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