February 18, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast for Wednesday 19th of February 2025, the inquiry into steps government agencies took to ensure personal Census and Covid vaccination data collected at Manurewa Marae could not be misused has found the agencies failed to put appropriate safeguards in place.
Marco Rubio's Former Chief of staff Matt Terrill shares his thoughts on the crucial meeting between the US and Russia on the future of the war in Ukraine.
It's OCR day, ANZ's Sharon Zollner tells Andrew Dickens she expects the Reserve Bank to cut by 50 basis points.
Lydia Ko won her second supreme award at the Halberg Awards last night, and Hamish Kerr won Sportsman of the year, Andrew believes they are both deserving of their titles.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issues is the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens
on early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
used talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be as goodboding to you and welcome to your Wednesday.
Thank you for choosing this program. My name is Andrew Dickins.
Coming up over the next sixty minutes, it's interest rate
day today? What should the Reserve Bank do? Your thoughts
you can text me ninety two ninety two. I'll have
my thoughts at a moment and in fifteen minutes time
we'll talk to Sharon Zohner from the A n Z
The Big World story the US and Russia meat in
(00:34):
Saudi Arabia to discuss Ukraine. What happened. We're going to
talk to Marco Rubio's former chief of staff in about
five minutes. Lydia Coe is our top sports person. But
who's the new talent coming through? And the misuse of
census and COVID data. We'll talk to the man representing
the Mariahs at the center of the storm. Yes, you
can text me ninety two ninety two. It's small charge applies.
You can email me Dickens at Newstalk tob dot co
(00:56):
dot NZ it's seven after five Wednesday, the nineteenth of February.
The big story. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, speaking
with Russia in Saudi Arabia, says the crucial meeting was
the first step of a long and difficult journey, but
an important one. The high level talks went on for
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about four hours in Saudi Arabia and they agreed to
appoint teams to continue negotiating to end the war. Russian
Foreign Minister Sir Gey Levrov also says they will appoint
ambassadors to each other's countries as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
The first agreement is not the most complicated. One is
to ensure the speediest possible appointments of ambassadors to remove
the barriers that for many years, first of all, the
Biden administration in the last four years erected in between
(01:52):
our diplomatic missions and.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Mico Rubio stressed the fact that nobody's being sidelines in
these negotiations. Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski has been meeting
with Turkey's president in Turkey's capital, Anchora. He says today
the pair discussed the global processes in great detail that
could lead to the end of.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This war, Ukraine and in the broadest sense, Europe, Turkey
and Great Britain must be involved in the talks and
in working out the necessary security guarantees together with America
that concern our destiny in our part of the world.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Now to the Middle East and atop Hamas leader says
the militant group will release six living Israeli hostages on
the weekend and the bodies of four others in the
coming days. It includes the remains of the two youngest
hostages who for many Israelis have embodied the captive's plight
in Gaza.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Those b Bus boys have become really iconic symbols across
Israel of the brutality of the Hamas attack on the
seventh of October. They are on euro rules. They are
very much seen as symbolic off the seventh of October attack.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
These young boys are the Ol Bibas and Kafie Bibas.
And finally, Pot Francis has begun his fifth day in
hospital for what doctors have described as a complex respiratory infection.
He will not take part of this weekend's Holy Year events.
The pontiff, who's eighty eight years old, has been suffering
from respiratory infection for more than a week. He was
admitted to Rome's Gamelli Hospital. On Friday Local time, It's
(03:29):
ten out of five.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and One Room, Make your Property search simple, news talks.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It'd be now. The question I have for you and
the Reserve Bank is do you think inflation's under control?
Because in many ways it isn't. Last Friday, stats New
Zealand announced that food prices across New Zealand rose by
one point nine percent in January, and the proportion of
the prices in the food basket that we measure that
increase by more than five percent was the highest in
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five years. That's twenty percent of them. And you know
this because you pay this. The average price for a
two liter bottle of milk was four dollars fifty four
in January this year. Last year it was three dollars
ninety three. Imported foods up as well. The average price
of a block of chocolate five dollars seventy two in
January twenty twenty five, four dollars ninety in January twenty
(04:21):
twenty four. We've got increased taxes and xis causing price rises.
Alcohol and tobacco went out two point four percent in January. Meanwhile,
the non tradable aspect of inflation remains baked in. In
the past weeks we've had headlines of higher insurance premiums
and RPE rises. Add to that the global instability that
we've reported on, the unexpected rise in inflation in America
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and China continuing to be in a relative doldrum. Gosh,
what a belong this. You're left with a scenario that
inflation has not left us, or in fact not left
the world. In fact, you could argue it's back as
strong as ever. So what would you do about interest
rates today? If you're the bank governor? There's a very
there's a very real argument that they should stay put
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and certainly not go down. But what is Sharon's on
to think? We'll talk to her shortly. It's twelve after five.
Andrew Dickens and Wayne Brown's up for another stince as
mayor of Auckland. So if I have one judgment on
his performance in his first term, might say this, he
wasn't as bad as many expected, but nor was he
as good as he likes to tell everyone. His flood
performance was poor, but he's been learning on the job.
(05:29):
He's come to see the logic of the improved rail service.
He claims not to know what's happening with the city's streets,
even though plans a public record, but he also realizes
that waging a holy war against roade works and particularly
roecones is a vote winner. He is the best choice
I think we have. The only other candidate better qualified
(05:49):
might be Deasi Simpson. But now that Wayne has the
bit between his teeth, she might think better to quit
the race. Otherwise she will split the sender right vote
Paula Bennett and Simon Bridges. Sorry, guys, you're gonna to
wait for another time. Meanwhile, the left, who is going
to compete against Wayne from the left? I have no idea.
The left needs to think long and hard about who
they think might want to have a crack and who
(06:11):
might be able to beat the center right. Because at
the moment, it's a one horse race for the Auckland
mayor and that horse is called Wayne, and it's thirteen
after five. So Matt Tarrell is the former chief of
staff from Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is doing the first
steps towards ensuring a piece in Saudi Arabia. Now, so
(06:31):
we've managed to track Matt down and we'll talk to
him in just a moment and try and figure out
exactly what happened in that four hour meeting. It is
now thirteen after five.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
News and Views You Trust to start your day. Its
early edition with Andrew Dickens and one Roof, Make Your
Property Surge, Simple News Talk.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Sibby, Welcome on in. It's a quarter after five. So
the United States and Russia are going to appoint teams
to negotiate ending the Ukraine War. You wear. Secretary of
State Marco Rubio has finished up a for our meeting
with Russian officials in Saudi Arabia. Sergey Leverov, Russia's foreign minister,
says Russia and the United States have agreed to corect
(07:11):
to create conditions to restore cooperation in full between the
two nations.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
We did not just listen to each other, but we
heard each other. I have every reason to believe that
the American side understands our position.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So what might have happened in that meeting. Marco Rubio's
former chief of staff is a fellow by the name
of Matt Terrell. He's in Milwaukee, and Matt joins me.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Now, Hello, Matt, Hey, grig bere with you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
What do you think happened in that for our meeting.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Well, we'll see what comes out of the reporting on it.
You know, what I can tell you is that it
appears to be a first step in terms of negotiations here,
particularly particularly with Russia. And so the bottom line here is,
you know, it's a first step.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yes, Marco Rubio says, the peace is a verb, not
a noun, and it's all about incremental steps.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
That's all right. Look, at the end of the day,
actually speak louder than words and support and have meetings
the support and have dialogue and discussions. But the end
of the day comes down to action, and you get
to see action on the side of putin that to
see action among other actors here, particularly it relates to
Russia and deciding what happens here. But obviously Ukrain will
be at that table as well. You know what President
Trump spoke just a few days ago with Villainsky, And
(08:23):
you know the bottom line here. Steve Woodkoff and others
on the foreign policy team of President Trump's team have
been discussions with Ukraine officials and Russia officials now and
it appears in Saudi Arabia, So you know, at the
end of the day it's going to come down in
what the actions are and clearly, well to see what
that all means the main book, because the discussions about
land and discussions about whether or not Ukraine would be
(08:43):
able to join NATO, those are all things that are
going to be discussed here, negotiated, Those are many of
the key things that I think are going to be
certainly on the table. But then of the day, you know, look,
this war needs to end. That President Trump campaign down
any campaign on any this war to negotiation, not to
putting boots on the ground. So right now it comes
down to with these discussions, hugging the discussions unfold. Again.
(09:05):
What occurred here over the past few hours is just
the first step. But you don't get to finalization negotiations
without starting negotiations and hopefuls what we're seeing here in
terms of a peaceful resolution and negotiate resolution here that
won't require more bloodshed.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, when do you think the United States will talk
to the Ukrainian side, because they have to be part
of the negotiations in the end.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Well, it's viral that they are and they have been.
I mean, look, you saw Secretary of Rubio and others
clearly state that, you know, the United States and President
Trump have been in discussions and jaws with Zelenski, and
so look at the end of the dating and support
and recognize that they are at the table here clearly.
Obviously you're seeing other voices here among Europe voice their
(09:49):
their thoughts on this. But look, the reality is it's
going to come down to having they have both leaders,
both put and Angelinski at the table here among other
key keep players here to help bring this war to
an end. But I think you know, and it's a
repetitive you're redundant on this point, but really I think
the key goal here in Saudi Arabia was to at
(10:09):
least get Putin and his team, if you will, to
the table. Now you can't start negotiations, so you actually
get these key players to the table. And that was
the first step here. It's not the only step. I
think there's many more steps of course, are going to
be needed here. But again, the goal here is to
end the saying. You know, there's been reports, I don't
know how accurate these are or not the reports that
(10:30):
you know, the Russian military has lost over one hundred
and fifty thousand soldiers and obviously their economy is taking
a hit by much of the recording with saying you know,
I think at the end of the day, this is
something that in addition to you know, the lives sally
lost in the Ukraine side, you know, this is something
I need to come to an end present some campaign
down that and that's something he wants to deliver on
I think soon here.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And you've been micro Rubio's chief of staff. Is he
good at this sort of stuff?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Well, I worked with more on his twenty fifteen campaign
and when he was running for president in twenty sixteen,
he was able. When I recognize the least and many
of those who work with him recognized, was his ability
to dive deep into the foreign policy issues that don't
always get the headlines. So, look, he has a very
clearnerstanding of history. I think is a very clear understanding
(11:16):
of the key challenges that we are facing when it
comes to your question of negotiation. Look, this is someone
who has been at this during his time in the
Senapal Relations Committee, the Senate Intel Committee. He's not new
to the foreign policy challenges that we're facing, not just
as a country but as a world. I think this
is somebody who's got charisma and ability to negotiate, but
it's gonna be him and others obviously at the table here.
(11:38):
But then they it's going to come down to I
think President Trump. You know, I think there's only one
world leader right now who can really bring this thing
to an end. I think that that's President Trump. I
think it's wondering why he won the last election in
twenty twenty four, because Americans want to see this war
coming to end, as the people around the world.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, Matt Terrell, I thank you for your time.
Matt Terrell is Maco Rubio's former chief of Stuff and
This is News. It's five twenty Sharon Zoon is joining
us next to talk about what the Reserve Bank should
do today. It's interest rate Day.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Andrew dickens all Afili edition with one roof to make
your property surge simple youth, Dog Zibby.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's five twenty three. The Reserve Bank, what are they
going to do today? They're expected to cut the OCEA
by fifty basis points to three point seventy five percent.
It's locked in, they say, as a near certainty, but
of course we never know until it actually happens. In
the A and Za Tief economists, Sharon Zooner joins me,
good morning, Sharon, good morning. What's going to happen?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
We're also in the camp that says our cup fifty
they stick called it really, really unusually clearly in November,
which was brave because it was a three month gap
until the actual decision. But as it happens, the data
has fallen what most peop would consider in line with
therefore cuss a few under zanovs, but overall not challenging
their narratives. So you're seeing quite a strong consensus amongst
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both economists and market participants at our cup fifty today.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, there's a who we're around saying don't cut it
or just do zero point twenty five because food prices
are rising in January, non tradable inflations, baked in American
inflations ticking up. Is the possibility of a global trade war.
We've got global instability affecting supply chains. There's some very
real arguments to ty hoe.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
There are some very.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Real arguments to be cautious about the medium term outlook.
But basically, what happens to that domestic sticky inflation that
the Reserve Bank really cares about depends on where the
economy was that sort of six months ago, really, and
six months ago the economy was in a pretty dark place.
So it's reasonably it's reason for the Reserve Bank to
expect that domestic inslation to continue to fall, and they
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don't want to overdo things, don't want to cause unnecessary pain,
but also don't want to cause inflation to go out
at the bottom of the band. So that's like they're
comfortable cutting now, but they have suggested that they will
start to move more cautiously as they get closer to neutral.
So that's where it does to get interesting. Sidney five,
which is where they'd be after a fifty point cut,
Is that closer to neutral? All the next most the
(14:03):
twenty five or fifty? There is some debate on that point.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, Well, how low could they go? You're quite right.
The debate is between some people saying three point five,
that'll be about it. Some people have said, well could
go as lot as three, what do you think?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, and some people are saying lowd than that. I
don't think the Reserve Bank will necessarily feel the need
to be dogmatic about exactly where the OCR finishes up today.
But their last forecast suggested the OCI would go down
to about three, and I guess the market's probably assuming
that they'll show something similar today. If they show it
going there only slowly, you could see some disappointment from
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the market. In which tests you could actually see it
will bump up and illustrates and exchange rates even though
they're cutting. On the other hand, if the market thinks
they sound like they're going to cut faster, you could
still see reaction. So even though they're cutting, the actual
reaction on the day will depend on what they say,
their tone, their forecasts compared to what the market is.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm looking forward to what they have to say and
what they have to say about our economy right now. Sharon,
it's always great that you wake up for us, and
I thank you. Sharon's owner is the A and Z
Chiefs Economy Chief Economists And it's now five twenty five
the early.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
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Speaker 2 (15:18):
News Talks it B. It's five twenty seven. I made
of my of my and sorry, I'll start that again.
A mate and I have a little joke whenever we
screw up, either big or small, will look at each
other and go it only took one goat. If you know,
you know. But it acknowledges that it takes forever to
build up a good reputation, and all it takes is
one misstep to immediately undo all that good work. So
(15:40):
New Zealand recently was told it had slipped to place
in the world reputational survey around fraud and corruption. We're
now fourth in the world. We used to be higher.
That's still pretty good, but it's not as good as
we were before. The news that confidential data held by
a government agency was inappropriately given to a third party
as a very serious one. Maybe it was a misuse,
(16:03):
but that's not the point. It should never have been released.
It should not have been released without safeguards. Maybe this
was not as dodgy as it seems, but if we
let standard slide, then the next time could be even worse.
This is not the right time to be seen as
a wink nudge nudge sort of country. There's more than
enough third world antics in play in this country as
(16:23):
it is. Already. And when you combine that finding along
with Brian Roach's report into the civil Service that shows
us to be over governed and shows our governance our
civil service to be below standard, then the slow degradation
of New Zealand's reputation is certainly underway. We have too
many public servants and the ones that are there are
making either stupid mistakes or dodgy decisions. So New Zealand
(16:48):
can do better. That's the report card seconds five twenty nine.
Lidia co is our supreme holbig winner. We'll look at
this in a few moments time before before six, we're
going to talk to a fellow who represented them arise
about of course, the data link. And have you ever
wondered what a mummy smells like? And when I say
a mummy, I mean an Egyptian mummy, a five thousand
(17:11):
year old Egyptian mommy all swallowed up. Have you ever
wondered what it smells like? Well, someone's done some research
and found out for you, and we'll find out that
from Gavin Gray. It's a Wednesday. My name's Andrew Dickins.
Good morning to you. This is News Talk SIB.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
The news you need this morning and the in Depth
Analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
Your Property Search Simple News talks it by good Kid.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You'd bet at the Wednesday Ive Andrew Dickens. If you
haven't heard, you just did. Lydia Coe is our Supreme
Halberg winner. She wasn't actually there at the evening, but
somebody from Golf New Zealand was plenty chuffed about it.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Dame Lydia Coe.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Lydia Coe has two PUDs to go from legend to immortal.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
She's twenty seven and she has completed gold.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
On behalf of Golf New Zealand and I think many
many Kiwis all around the country.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
We're enormously proud to Dame Lydia. You're a legend.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yes she is.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
In one year she won the Olympic gold medal, she
won the British Open, she was the youngest player ever
to be inducted into the Golf Hall of Fame. She
won another two big tournaments and then to top it off,
we made her a dame as well. What a golden
twenty twenty four. And what I love about that twenty
twenty four for Lydia is that she had some Soso.
Years before that, remember, she was not winning, and she
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got married and there was talk of her retiring and
getting down to a family life. But boy, she came
storming back in twenty twenty four and she's top of
the tree. A remarkable talent and that was well deserved.
So too was the recognition of Hamush Kerr. You see,
I used to compete in the high jump when I
was a kid at school. I got as high as
six foot five. I jumped six foot five, three inches
taller than me. But in all that time, I never
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ever thought I'd ever see a New Zealander as the
best high jumper in the world. But here we have it.
He's a nice bloke and he's going to be on
with Mike Hosking this morning. I feel for Chris Wood,
who's doing remarkable things in football, but he was up
against it. It's an Olympic year, so maybe next year
for Chris. But football got its recognition with the Best
Emerging Talent award. And this is what I love about
(19:44):
this thing. You start hearing about people doing amazing things
around the place that you never heard before. This is
a young man called Tyler Binden. He was born in
New Zealand, but he moved to California when he was
twelve because his mum got a gig coaching the UCLA
football team, so he spent his teams in America. He
represented USA as a teen. He played against Argentina for USA,
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but now his allegiance is back with his home country.
He plays with the All Whites and he's been signed
by the same Premier League team that Chris Wood plays for,
Nottingham Forest, and they play in the English Premier League.
Tyler Binden superstar in the making, Tyler and soccer in
general is on fire right now. It's twenty one to six.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Andrew Dickens, let's go.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Let's go right around the country. Callen Proctor from Dunedin.
Good morning to you morning, Andrew, but not a good night.
Very wet.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
He's been wet, yes, right around Otago. In fact, torential
rain causing flash flooding in parts of the region. I
mean good news for topping up our southern lakes, but
for areas like Millis Flat, Beaumonton and Lawrence, there's been
extensive surface flooding. Police asking motorists to avoid State Highway
eight that's between Miller's Flat and Ray's junction. Video supplied
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to our newsroom show the road and undated the previous
dry creek off the kloof the river breaching its banks.
There's been general flood warnings issued for the rand Furley
and Patior communities. The Central Otago District Council saying there's
been so much water it's been lifting manhole covers. So
hopefully those conditions ease today. However, more rain is forecast.
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What is the forecast? You will possibly heavy and thundery
shellers around Otago this afternoon. South easterly is developing Dunedin's
heighs today twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Remember your umbrella and I thank you. And Claire Sherwood
joins us fro christ Church tellaclaire. Hello, So what's going
to happen with christ Church's Red Zone?
Speaker 10 (21:34):
Yes, well, hard to believe Andrew that this weekend will
mark fourteen years since that area of christ Church became
known as the red Zone and that twenty eleven earthquake. Now,
city councilors today will decide whether they'll push ahead with
a new governance plan for the area that's known as
the Avon River Corridor.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
It would at first.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
See an interim committee created to take care of that area.
That would be made up of three EWI and three
council represented. It would then later become a council controlled
charitable trust now the AVON or TARCTO Network Manager Hailey
Gulietta she believes, you know, it's a good idea, but
she does want to see one of those council voices
be from within that community on the east side of
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Christchurch rather than just any elected official. She says she
will be advocating for the elected members at the very
least to come from that side of christ Church or
Central in order to have a best read.
Speaker 11 (22:27):
On what happens with that area.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
All right, so how's your weather partly glady?
Speaker 10 (22:31):
We could see a charer L two this afternoon. Some
could be heavy northwesterlies and a high of twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Max told joins us from Wellington. Hellimax, good morning, You're
getting another massive wind farm.
Speaker 12 (22:42):
Well yeah, I mean look white it up. It is
a little further north but near enough to drive to.
These plans for a wind farm have been in question.
Some locals have been kicking up a fuss. They don't
like the proximity to some of their homes within two
kilometers in some instances. But the plan is Miuradian Energy
wants to build a wind farm of more than twenty
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turbines at Mount Montroe, that's just south of Ekeatahuna. It
would provide enough power to generate powerful more than forty
thousand homes in Northern Wide and appa to generate about
three hundred giga what hours of renewable energy every year.
And so the Environment Environment Court has granted a resource consent,
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but there is likely to be a legal challenge now
in the High Court.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
All right, how's your with it? I hope it's windy?
Speaker 12 (23:32):
Oh well a little windy, yes, cloudy as well with
a little drizzle. Twenty two the High Central very good.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Never written amount of jointing now from Auckland.
Speaker 11 (23:39):
Andrew, what's going on? It's like the tropics in here.
Have you not turned on the aircorn? It's flip and
warm man.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
No I said it to twenty four, but it was
it was on nineteen. So it's only been on twenty
four for a half an hour.
Speaker 11 (23:52):
Oh you wait till the host comes in. You are
so going to get it. Nineteen is a really good teamp. No, oh,
it's too, I can barely speak.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Okay, right, carry on, okay, let's talk fireworks.
Speaker 11 (24:06):
Yes, Now, what I can tell you is that Auckland
Council seeking advice. Now this is on how to reduce
the nuisance and danger being caused by fireworks. So there's
been a report and that has been seen by the
news room and here at newstak ZB and the council
can continue, which is good news, to advocate the central
government for a nationwide ban. This is on the private sales.
So it says that the council can also tighten existing
(24:29):
by laws, you know, possibly raising that bar that must
be met when applying for a trading license. So both
of those options are now going to be considered by
the counselors. What will happen is that that final decision
will be resting on the Regulatory Community Safety Committee.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Oh right, I got.
Speaker 11 (24:45):
Those words out.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, how's the weather fine?
Speaker 11 (24:50):
Hot, hot, muggy here and the ZIBI main studio cloud
developing in the afternoon charts of a shower twenty six
is the high outside in Auckland?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Cow, did you get a jacket on?
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Go too?
Speaker 11 (24:58):
Because when I got back into the news right and on.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
The way out. Could you turn down the air condition?
Speaker 11 (25:04):
No, I'm going to wait till it comes in here.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, it's all good, it's all good. Thank you so much. Right,
I've just got a text from Graham, and I'm pretty
sure I know Graham because I think I might have
coached his kids.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Graham says, Andrewid's football, not soccer. I know. I say
football all the time and people go no, no, no,
But it's soccer, you know the old debate. I said
soccer once, So that was very clear. Tyler Binden is
a great footballer. It's also quite good at soccer. What
does a mummy smell like? Yes, Gavin Gray is on
the way with that detail and also more details about
(25:35):
the US Russia discussions in Saudi Arabia. It is now
sixteen to five.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Six International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It is thirteen to six. Keavin Gray out of the UK.
Good morning, Gavin, Either Andrew Pope francis not well five
days now in hospital.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Yeah, and just been announced that every engagement right through
until the weekend, including the weekend, has been canceled. The
eighty eight year old was admitted into Rome's Jamelli Hospital
on Friday to undergo treatment and tests for bronchitis. We're
now being told he's got a polymicrobial infection of his
respiratory tract. What that basically means is he's had to
(26:20):
now have a change in the treatment that he was
originally prescribed. He's described as in a stable condition, he
does not have a fever, but nevertheless, this course is
very worrying.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
He has a.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
History of illness, particularly to do with his lungs, including
just at the age of twenty one he actually had
part of one of his lungs removed, having suffered from
health issues for many years, and in March of twenty
twenty three he spent three nights in hospital with bronchitis,
and in June that year underwent a three hour operation
to repair an abdominal hernia. So afraid, some bad news.
(26:56):
Plenty of well wishers though at Saint Peter's Basilica, plenty
of weld wishes throughout the Vatican. But yeah, pretty worrying
days for the Pope.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Very unfortunate timing because this is the wholy year, the anniversary,
the big Old celebrations, and he's missing out and he
will be missed. And finally, your textpayer's money has been
spent on researchers figuring out what a mummy smells like.
And when I say mummy, I mean an Egyptian mummy.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
Yes, fascinating this Apparently when you open up one of
these mummies, even five thousand years on, they actually smell
quite nice, I believe it, or not a pleasant smell
according to scientists, and that is due to the use
of resins and oils like pine cedar and juniper. So
this was a team from University College London looking at
(27:44):
basically collaborating and conservators and curators at the Egyptian Museum
in Cairo. They had a look at nine mummified bodies
and the smell has always been something that has fascinated
researchers because, as I mentioned, it's actually not pleasant. It
is not the smell of decay, and the smell is
a very key consideration for ancient Egyptians, it would appear,
(28:08):
particularly when it came to the mammification process. Even though
five thousand years on, of course things have changed, but
it was said that the smells that and the oils
that we used are really really rather pleasant This is
a seems to be a bizarre thing to investigate and research,
but nevertheless really interesting that something all those years on
(28:28):
can actually smell quite good.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Kevin, I thank you. It is now ten to six
Andrew Dickens, all right, it's a very damning inquiry, wasn't it?
And it found that public service agencies shared Kiwi's personal
information with third party agencies. Now, this inquiry followed alegations
that census and COVID vaccination data collected at Manya Dewa,
(28:50):
Malai was used to target Maldi voters and the tammy
caem cod o elliterate. So the report says STATS New
Zealand had insufficient safeguards in place to protect the personal data.
You know this is serious because the boss of Stats
in New Zealand, the big Boss, fell on his sword immediately.
Health New Zealand and the Ministry of Health were also
criticized for their roles in sharing the data. Now, Alan
(29:10):
Holds is an employment advocate who represented six Malai workers
and one MSD in the inquiry and joints me.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Now, hello allan morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
So what does this outcame mean for say, the whistleblowers.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Vindication and I guess what it means is that the
abuse that they've suffered, probably for eighteen months has been vindicated.
I think the real sad part about the entire story
is that the whistleblowers were telling the truth the entire time,
(29:45):
and without their bravery. And I'm talking about bravery because
all of them are faced retaliation and in different ways
abused in public, discredited publicly. I've been discredited publicly on
multiple occasions for actually standing up and telling the truth.
(30:06):
And without the whistle blowers, we wouldn't have this report.
And I think it's a bit disappointing that the Prime
Minister and the people involved haven't said thank you, brave
whistle browers for bringing this evidence to us in a
format that we could understand now.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Okay, but surely surely there was some wise we want
We'll want more, because while this inquiry says it should
not have been released, it doesn't actually say what the
information was then released to do. So it seems incomplete
in terms of the total misuse of it. There's a
lot that is unfocused.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
I think it's pretty clear the report, and I've read
the sixty eight page report, it sees that information was
shared private information of New zeal Is a complete census
form was shared with people that it shouldn't have been
shared with and it is a complete breach of privacy.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yes, so how contentious does that Tommikimikoto result seem now
to you?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
I think a number of us have believed for some
time that if it wasn't for the data being accessed
by dupay Mary, that the would be a different person
in Parliament right now in that seat.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
How much distress is this causing?
Speaker 7 (31:38):
I think all it's doing is is proving what a
lot of people have thought for a long time about
some of the processes that have operated, that there isn't
the confidence in the public service. And I say that
because this particular cases only the tip of the ice speak.
(32:02):
We have so many more whistle blower cases within the
public service of serious wrongdoing and that's that's what we're
talking about. And the report this is only the initial
stage where they're actually saying what the Public Service investigator found.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
A thank you for your work, thank you for your time.
This morning, that's Alan Wholesey represented the whistleblowers.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one room. Make your property
surgent symbol.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You talk Nike asking you're very good with the English language.
Is it football or soccer football? Thank you?
Speaker 13 (32:43):
No worries Brian Wroach this morning, and having read the
report yesterday, there's so many reports still to come, the
main one being or the criminal one potentially being the
one as to what the Murray party did or didn't
do with them. You know, say that he's sure that
another person should be in the in the time chem Well,
that's I mean, that's that's the thing. That's a parliament,
the parliament of the country potentially is not made up
(33:05):
correctly and so you know that that goes to everything
we believe in. But yesterday's report, I mean, how many
reports have you read over the years about the public
service being useless? And you know the government, the labor
governments stacked them to the gunnals, gave them all pay rises.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know you did you hear the comparison of the
number of agencies we have compared to Ireland to slit
here fifteen there? How to blow them up, get rid
of them?
Speaker 13 (33:25):
And for all of the angsting that was going on
last year about people losing their job and losing their
job's hard work. We've all lost our job. But I mean,
when you look at this report and how incompetent they are,
it's unbelievad anyway, So he's all the program opod.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Or good and I thank you, and I thank Kenzy,
my producer Libby who helped. And I'm Andrew Dickin. See
you again tomorrow. Have a great Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Her Heal.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be as goodboding to you and welcome to your Wednesday.
Thank you for choosing this program. My name is Andrew Dickins.
Coming up over the next sixty minutes, it's interest rate
day today? What should the Reserve Bank do? Your thoughts
you can text me ninety two ninety two. I'll have
my thoughts at a moment and in fifteen minutes time
we'll talk to Sharon Zohner from the A n Z
The Big World story the US and Russia meat in
(00:34):
Saudi Arabia to discuss Ukraine. What happened. We're going to
talk to Marco Rubio's former chief of staff in about
five minutes. Lydia Coe is our top sports person. But
who's the new talent coming through? And the misuse of
census and COVID data. We'll talk to the man representing
the Mariahs at the center of the storm. Yes, you
can text me ninety two ninety two. It's small charge applies.
You can email me Dickens at Newstalk tob dot co
(00:56):
dot NZ it's seven after five Wednesday, the nineteenth of February.
The big story. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, speaking
with Russia in Saudi Arabia, says the crucial meeting was
the first step of a long and difficult journey, but
an important one. The high level talks went on for
(01:17):
about four hours in Saudi Arabia and they agreed to
appoint teams to continue negotiating to end the war. Russian
Foreign Minister Sir Gey Levrov also says they will appoint
ambassadors to each other's countries as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
The first agreement is not the most complicated. One is
to ensure the speediest possible appointments of ambassadors to remove
the barriers that for many years, first of all, the
Biden administration in the last four years erected in between
(01:52):
our diplomatic missions and.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Mico Rubio stressed the fact that nobody's being sidelines in
these negotiations. Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski has been meeting
with Turkey's president in Turkey's capital, Anchora. He says today
the pair discussed the global processes in great detail that
could lead to the end of.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This war, Ukraine and in the broadest sense, Europe, Turkey
and Great Britain must be involved in the talks and
in working out the necessary security guarantees together with America
that concern our destiny in our part of the world.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Now to the Middle East and atop Hamas leader says
the militant group will release six living Israeli hostages on
the weekend and the bodies of four others in the
coming days. It includes the remains of the two youngest
hostages who for many Israelis have embodied the captive's plight
in Gaza.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Those b Bus boys have become really iconic symbols across
Israel of the brutality of the Hamas attack on the
seventh of October. They are on euro rules. They are
very much seen as symbolic off the seventh of October attack.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
These young boys are the Ol Bibas and Kafie Bibas.
And finally, Pot Francis has begun his fifth day in
hospital for what doctors have described as a complex respiratory infection.
He will not take part of this weekend's Holy Year events.
The pontiff, who's eighty eight years old, has been suffering
from respiratory infection for more than a week. He was
admitted to Rome's Gamelli Hospital. On Friday Local time, It's
(03:29):
ten out of five.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
and One Room, Make your Property search simple, news talks.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It'd be now. The question I have for you and
the Reserve Bank is do you think inflation's under control?
Because in many ways it isn't. Last Friday, stats New
Zealand announced that food prices across New Zealand rose by
one point nine percent in January, and the proportion of
the prices in the food basket that we measure that
increase by more than five percent was the highest in
(04:01):
five years. That's twenty percent of them. And you know
this because you pay this. The average price for a
two liter bottle of milk was four dollars fifty four
in January this year. Last year it was three dollars
ninety three. Imported foods up as well. The average price
of a block of chocolate five dollars seventy two in
January twenty twenty five, four dollars ninety in January twenty
(04:21):
twenty four. We've got increased taxes and xis causing price rises.
Alcohol and tobacco went out two point four percent in January. Meanwhile,
the non tradable aspect of inflation remains baked in. In
the past weeks we've had headlines of higher insurance premiums
and RPE rises. Add to that the global instability that
we've reported on, the unexpected rise in inflation in America
(04:43):
and China continuing to be in a relative doldrum. Gosh,
what a belong this. You're left with a scenario that
inflation has not left us, or in fact not left
the world. In fact, you could argue it's back as
strong as ever. So what would you do about interest
rates today? If you're the bank governor? There's a very
there's a very real argument that they should stay put
(05:06):
and certainly not go down. But what is Sharon's on
to think? We'll talk to her shortly. It's twelve after five.
Andrew Dickens and Wayne Brown's up for another stince as
mayor of Auckland. So if I have one judgment on
his performance in his first term, might say this, he
wasn't as bad as many expected, but nor was he
as good as he likes to tell everyone. His flood
performance was poor, but he's been learning on the job.
(05:29):
He's come to see the logic of the improved rail service.
He claims not to know what's happening with the city's streets,
even though plans a public record, but he also realizes
that waging a holy war against roade works and particularly
roecones is a vote winner. He is the best choice
I think we have. The only other candidate better qualified
(05:49):
might be Deasi Simpson. But now that Wayne has the
bit between his teeth, she might think better to quit
the race. Otherwise she will split the sender right vote
Paula Bennett and Simon Bridges. Sorry, guys, you're gonna to
wait for another time. Meanwhile, the left, who is going
to compete against Wayne from the left? I have no idea.
The left needs to think long and hard about who
they think might want to have a crack and who
(06:11):
might be able to beat the center right. Because at
the moment, it's a one horse race for the Auckland
mayor and that horse is called Wayne, and it's thirteen
after five. So Matt Tarrell is the former chief of
staff from Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is doing the first
steps towards ensuring a piece in Saudi Arabia. Now, so
(06:31):
we've managed to track Matt down and we'll talk to
him in just a moment and try and figure out
exactly what happened in that four hour meeting. It is
now thirteen after five.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
News and Views You Trust to start your day. Its
early edition with Andrew Dickens and one Roof, Make Your
Property Surge, Simple News Talk.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Sibby, Welcome on in. It's a quarter after five. So
the United States and Russia are going to appoint teams
to negotiate ending the Ukraine War. You wear. Secretary of
State Marco Rubio has finished up a for our meeting
with Russian officials in Saudi Arabia. Sergey Leverov, Russia's foreign minister,
says Russia and the United States have agreed to corect
(07:11):
to create conditions to restore cooperation in full between the
two nations.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
We did not just listen to each other, but we
heard each other. I have every reason to believe that
the American side understands our position.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So what might have happened in that meeting. Marco Rubio's
former chief of staff is a fellow by the name
of Matt Terrell. He's in Milwaukee, and Matt joins me.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Now, Hello, Matt, Hey, grig bere with you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
What do you think happened in that for our meeting.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Well, we'll see what comes out of the reporting on it.
You know, what I can tell you is that it
appears to be a first step in terms of negotiations here,
particularly particularly with Russia. And so the bottom line here is,
you know, it's a first step.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yes, Marco Rubio says, the peace is a verb, not
a noun, and it's all about incremental steps.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
That's all right. Look, at the end of the day,
actually speak louder than words and support and have meetings
the support and have dialogue and discussions. But the end
of the day comes down to action, and you get
to see action on the side of putin that to
see action among other actors here, particularly it relates to
Russia and deciding what happens here. But obviously Ukrain will
be at that table as well. You know what President
Trump spoke just a few days ago with Villainsky, And
(08:23):
you know the bottom line here. Steve Woodkoff and others
on the foreign policy team of President Trump's team have
been discussions with Ukraine officials and Russia officials now and
it appears in Saudi Arabia, So you know, at the
end of the day it's going to come down in
what the actions are and clearly, well to see what
that all means the main book, because the discussions about
land and discussions about whether or not Ukraine would be
(08:43):
able to join NATO, those are all things that are
going to be discussed here, negotiated, Those are many of
the key things that I think are going to be
certainly on the table. But then of the day, you know, look,
this war needs to end. That President Trump campaign down
any campaign on any this war to negotiation, not to
putting boots on the ground. So right now it comes
down to with these discussions, hugging the discussions unfold. Again.
(09:05):
What occurred here over the past few hours is just
the first step. But you don't get to finalization negotiations
without starting negotiations and hopefuls what we're seeing here in
terms of a peaceful resolution and negotiate resolution here that
won't require more bloodshed.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, when do you think the United States will talk
to the Ukrainian side, because they have to be part
of the negotiations in the end.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Well, it's viral that they are and they have been.
I mean, look, you saw Secretary of Rubio and others
clearly state that, you know, the United States and President
Trump have been in discussions and jaws with Zelenski, and
so look at the end of the dating and support
and recognize that they are at the table here clearly.
Obviously you're seeing other voices here among Europe voice their
(09:49):
their thoughts on this. But look, the reality is it's
going to come down to having they have both leaders,
both put and Angelinski at the table here among other
key keep players here to help bring this war to
an end. But I think you know, and it's a
repetitive you're redundant on this point, but really I think
the key goal here in Saudi Arabia was to at
(10:09):
least get Putin and his team, if you will, to
the table. Now you can't start negotiations, so you actually
get these key players to the table. And that was
the first step here. It's not the only step. I
think there's many more steps of course, are going to
be needed here. But again, the goal here is to
end the saying. You know, there's been reports, I don't
know how accurate these are or not the reports that
(10:30):
you know, the Russian military has lost over one hundred
and fifty thousand soldiers and obviously their economy is taking
a hit by much of the recording with saying you know,
I think at the end of the day, this is
something that in addition to you know, the lives sally
lost in the Ukraine side, you know, this is something
I need to come to an end present some campaign
down that and that's something he wants to deliver on
I think soon here.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And you've been micro Rubio's chief of staff. Is he
good at this sort of stuff?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Well, I worked with more on his twenty fifteen campaign
and when he was running for president in twenty sixteen,
he was able. When I recognize the least and many
of those who work with him recognized, was his ability
to dive deep into the foreign policy issues that don't
always get the headlines. So, look, he has a very
clearnerstanding of history. I think is a very clear understanding
(11:16):
of the key challenges that we are facing when it
comes to your question of negotiation. Look, this is someone
who has been at this during his time in the
Senapal Relations Committee, the Senate Intel Committee. He's not new
to the foreign policy challenges that we're facing, not just
as a country but as a world. I think this
is somebody who's got charisma and ability to negotiate, but
it's gonna be him and others obviously at the table here.
(11:38):
But then they it's going to come down to I
think President Trump. You know, I think there's only one
world leader right now who can really bring this thing
to an end. I think that that's President Trump. I
think it's wondering why he won the last election in
twenty twenty four, because Americans want to see this war
coming to end, as the people around the world.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, Matt Terrell, I thank you for your time.
Matt Terrell is Maco Rubio's former chief of Stuff and
This is News. It's five twenty Sharon Zoon is joining
us next to talk about what the Reserve Bank should
do today. It's interest rate Day.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Andrew dickens all Afili edition with one roof to make
your property surge simple youth, Dog Zibby.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's five twenty three. The Reserve Bank, what are they
going to do today? They're expected to cut the OCEA
by fifty basis points to three point seventy five percent.
It's locked in, they say, as a near certainty, but
of course we never know until it actually happens. In
the A and Za Tief economists, Sharon Zooner joins me,
good morning, Sharon, good morning. What's going to happen?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
We're also in the camp that says our cup fifty
they stick called it really, really unusually clearly in November,
which was brave because it was a three month gap
until the actual decision. But as it happens, the data
has fallen what most peop would consider in line with
therefore cuss a few under zanovs, but overall not challenging
their narratives. So you're seeing quite a strong consensus amongst
(12:56):
both economists and market participants at our cup fifty today.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, there's a who we're around saying don't cut it
or just do zero point twenty five because food prices
are rising in January, non tradable inflations, baked in American
inflations ticking up. Is the possibility of a global trade war.
We've got global instability affecting supply chains. There's some very
real arguments to ty hoe.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
There are some very.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Real arguments to be cautious about the medium term outlook.
But basically, what happens to that domestic sticky inflation that
the Reserve Bank really cares about depends on where the
economy was that sort of six months ago, really, and
six months ago the economy was in a pretty dark place.
So it's reasonably it's reason for the Reserve Bank to
expect that domestic inslation to continue to fall, and they
(13:40):
don't want to overdo things, don't want to cause unnecessary pain,
but also don't want to cause inflation to go out
at the bottom of the band. So that's like they're
comfortable cutting now, but they have suggested that they will
start to move more cautiously as they get closer to neutral.
So that's where it does to get interesting. Sidney five,
which is where they'd be after a fifty point cut,
Is that closer to neutral? All the next most the
(14:03):
twenty five or fifty? There is some debate on that point.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, Well, how low could they go? You're quite right.
The debate is between some people saying three point five,
that'll be about it. Some people have said, well could
go as lot as three, what do you think?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, and some people are saying lowd than that. I
don't think the Reserve Bank will necessarily feel the need
to be dogmatic about exactly where the OCR finishes up today.
But their last forecast suggested the OCI would go down
to about three, and I guess the market's probably assuming
that they'll show something similar today. If they show it
going there only slowly, you could see some disappointment from
(14:39):
the market. In which tests you could actually see it
will bump up and illustrates and exchange rates even though
they're cutting. On the other hand, if the market thinks
they sound like they're going to cut faster, you could
still see reaction. So even though they're cutting, the actual
reaction on the day will depend on what they say,
their tone, their forecasts compared to what the market is.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm looking forward to what they have to say and
what they have to say about our economy right now. Sharon,
it's always great that you wake up for us, and
I thank you. Sharon's owner is the A and Z
Chiefs Economy Chief Economists And it's now five twenty five
the early.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
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Speaker 2 (15:18):
News Talks it B. It's five twenty seven. I made
of my of my and sorry, I'll start that again.
A mate and I have a little joke whenever we
screw up, either big or small, will look at each
other and go it only took one goat. If you know,
you know. But it acknowledges that it takes forever to
build up a good reputation, and all it takes is
one misstep to immediately undo all that good work. So
(15:40):
New Zealand recently was told it had slipped to place
in the world reputational survey around fraud and corruption. We're
now fourth in the world. We used to be higher.
That's still pretty good, but it's not as good as
we were before. The news that confidential data held by
a government agency was inappropriately given to a third party
as a very serious one. Maybe it was a misuse,
(16:03):
but that's not the point. It should never have been released.
It should not have been released without safeguards. Maybe this
was not as dodgy as it seems, but if we
let standard slide, then the next time could be even worse.
This is not the right time to be seen as
a wink nudge nudge sort of country. There's more than
enough third world antics in play in this country as
(16:23):
it is. Already. And when you combine that finding along
with Brian Roach's report into the civil Service that shows
us to be over governed and shows our governance our
civil service to be below standard, then the slow degradation
of New Zealand's reputation is certainly underway. We have too
many public servants and the ones that are there are
making either stupid mistakes or dodgy decisions. So New Zealand
(16:48):
can do better. That's the report card seconds five twenty nine.
Lidia co is our supreme holbig winner. We'll look at
this in a few moments time before before six, we're
going to talk to a fellow who represented them arise
about of course, the data link. And have you ever
wondered what a mummy smells like? And when I say
a mummy, I mean an Egyptian mummy, a five thousand
(17:11):
year old Egyptian mommy all swallowed up. Have you ever
wondered what it smells like? Well, someone's done some research
and found out for you, and we'll find out that
from Gavin Gray. It's a Wednesday. My name's Andrew Dickins.
Good morning to you. This is News Talk SIB.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
The news you need this morning and the in Depth
Analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
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Speaker 2 (17:57):
You'd bet at the Wednesday Ive Andrew Dickens. If you
haven't heard, you just did. Lydia Coe is our Supreme
Halberg winner. She wasn't actually there at the evening, but
somebody from Golf New Zealand was plenty chuffed about it.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Dame Lydia Coe.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Lydia Coe has two PUDs to go from legend to immortal.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
She's twenty seven and she has completed gold.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
On behalf of Golf New Zealand and I think many
many Kiwis all around the country.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
We're enormously proud to Dame Lydia. You're a legend.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yes she is.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
In one year she won the Olympic gold medal, she
won the British Open, she was the youngest player ever
to be inducted into the Golf Hall of Fame. She
won another two big tournaments and then to top it off,
we made her a dame as well. What a golden
twenty twenty four. And what I love about that twenty
twenty four for Lydia is that she had some Soso.
Years before that, remember, she was not winning, and she
(19:02):
got married and there was talk of her retiring and
getting down to a family life. But boy, she came
storming back in twenty twenty four and she's top of
the tree. A remarkable talent and that was well deserved.
So too was the recognition of Hamush Kerr. You see,
I used to compete in the high jump when I
was a kid at school. I got as high as
six foot five. I jumped six foot five, three inches
taller than me. But in all that time, I never
(19:24):
ever thought I'd ever see a New Zealander as the
best high jumper in the world. But here we have it.
He's a nice bloke and he's going to be on
with Mike Hosking this morning. I feel for Chris Wood,
who's doing remarkable things in football, but he was up
against it. It's an Olympic year, so maybe next year
for Chris. But football got its recognition with the Best
Emerging Talent award. And this is what I love about
(19:44):
this thing. You start hearing about people doing amazing things
around the place that you never heard before. This is
a young man called Tyler Binden. He was born in
New Zealand, but he moved to California when he was
twelve because his mum got a gig coaching the UCLA
football team, so he spent his teams in America. He
represented USA as a teen. He played against Argentina for USA,
(20:05):
but now his allegiance is back with his home country.
He plays with the All Whites and he's been signed
by the same Premier League team that Chris Wood plays for,
Nottingham Forest, and they play in the English Premier League.
Tyler Binden superstar in the making, Tyler and soccer in
general is on fire right now. It's twenty one to six.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Andrew Dickens, let's go.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Let's go right around the country. Callen Proctor from Dunedin.
Good morning to you morning, Andrew, but not a good night.
Very wet.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
He's been wet, yes, right around Otago. In fact, torential
rain causing flash flooding in parts of the region. I
mean good news for topping up our southern lakes, but
for areas like Millis Flat, Beaumonton and Lawrence, there's been
extensive surface flooding. Police asking motorists to avoid State Highway
eight that's between Miller's Flat and Ray's junction. Video supplied
(20:56):
to our newsroom show the road and undated the previous
dry creek off the kloof the river breaching its banks.
There's been general flood warnings issued for the rand Furley
and Patior communities. The Central Otago District Council saying there's
been so much water it's been lifting manhole covers. So
hopefully those conditions ease today. However, more rain is forecast.
(21:19):
What is the forecast? You will possibly heavy and thundery
shellers around Otago this afternoon. South easterly is developing Dunedin's
heighs today twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Remember your umbrella and I thank you. And Claire Sherwood
joins us fro christ Church tellaclaire. Hello, So what's going
to happen with christ Church's Red Zone?
Speaker 10 (21:34):
Yes, well, hard to believe Andrew that this weekend will
mark fourteen years since that area of christ Church became
known as the red Zone and that twenty eleven earthquake. Now,
city councilors today will decide whether they'll push ahead with
a new governance plan for the area that's known as
the Avon River Corridor.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
It would at first.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
See an interim committee created to take care of that area.
That would be made up of three EWI and three
council represented. It would then later become a council controlled
charitable trust now the AVON or TARCTO Network Manager Hailey
Gulietta she believes, you know, it's a good idea, but
she does want to see one of those council voices
be from within that community on the east side of
(22:14):
Christchurch rather than just any elected official. She says she
will be advocating for the elected members at the very
least to come from that side of christ Church or
Central in order to have a best read.
Speaker 11 (22:27):
On what happens with that area.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
All right, so how's your weather partly glady?
Speaker 10 (22:31):
We could see a charer L two this afternoon. Some
could be heavy northwesterlies and a high of twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Max told joins us from Wellington. Hellimax, good morning, You're
getting another massive wind farm.
Speaker 12 (22:42):
Well yeah, I mean look white it up. It is
a little further north but near enough to drive to.
These plans for a wind farm have been in question.
Some locals have been kicking up a fuss. They don't
like the proximity to some of their homes within two
kilometers in some instances. But the plan is Miuradian Energy
wants to build a wind farm of more than twenty
(23:05):
turbines at Mount Montroe, that's just south of Ekeatahuna. It
would provide enough power to generate powerful more than forty
thousand homes in Northern Wide and appa to generate about
three hundred giga what hours of renewable energy every year.
And so the Environment Environment Court has granted a resource consent,
(23:26):
but there is likely to be a legal challenge now
in the High Court.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
All right, how's your with it? I hope it's windy?
Speaker 12 (23:32):
Oh well a little windy, yes, cloudy as well with
a little drizzle. Twenty two the High Central very good.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Never written amount of jointing now from Auckland.
Speaker 11 (23:39):
Andrew, what's going on? It's like the tropics in here.
Have you not turned on the aircorn? It's flip and
warm man.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
No I said it to twenty four, but it was
it was on nineteen. So it's only been on twenty
four for a half an hour.
Speaker 11 (23:52):
Oh you wait till the host comes in. You are
so going to get it. Nineteen is a really good teamp. No, oh,
it's too, I can barely speak.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Okay, right, carry on, okay, let's talk fireworks.
Speaker 11 (24:06):
Yes, Now, what I can tell you is that Auckland
Council seeking advice. Now this is on how to reduce
the nuisance and danger being caused by fireworks. So there's
been a report and that has been seen by the
news room and here at newstak ZB and the council
can continue, which is good news, to advocate the central
government for a nationwide ban. This is on the private sales.
So it says that the council can also tighten existing
(24:29):
by laws, you know, possibly raising that bar that must
be met when applying for a trading license. So both
of those options are now going to be considered by
the counselors. What will happen is that that final decision
will be resting on the Regulatory Community Safety Committee.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Oh right, I got.
Speaker 11 (24:45):
Those words out.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, how's the weather fine?
Speaker 11 (24:50):
Hot, hot, muggy here and the ZIBI main studio cloud
developing in the afternoon charts of a shower twenty six
is the high outside in Auckland?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Cow, did you get a jacket on?
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Go too?
Speaker 11 (24:58):
Because when I got back into the news right and on.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
The way out. Could you turn down the air condition?
Speaker 11 (25:04):
No, I'm going to wait till it comes in here.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, it's all good, it's all good. Thank you so much. Right,
I've just got a text from Graham, and I'm pretty
sure I know Graham because I think I might have
coached his kids.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Graham says, Andrewid's football, not soccer. I know. I say
football all the time and people go no, no, no,
But it's soccer, you know the old debate. I said
soccer once, So that was very clear. Tyler Binden is
a great footballer. It's also quite good at soccer. What
does a mummy smell like? Yes, Gavin Gray is on
the way with that detail and also more details about
(25:35):
the US Russia discussions in Saudi Arabia. It is now
sixteen to five.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Six International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It is thirteen to six. Keavin Gray out of the UK.
Good morning, Gavin, Either Andrew Pope francis not well five
days now in hospital.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Yeah, and just been announced that every engagement right through
until the weekend, including the weekend, has been canceled. The
eighty eight year old was admitted into Rome's Jamelli Hospital
on Friday to undergo treatment and tests for bronchitis. We're
now being told he's got a polymicrobial infection of his
respiratory tract. What that basically means is he's had to
(26:20):
now have a change in the treatment that he was
originally prescribed. He's described as in a stable condition, he
does not have a fever, but nevertheless, this course is
very worrying.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
He has a.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
History of illness, particularly to do with his lungs, including
just at the age of twenty one he actually had
part of one of his lungs removed, having suffered from
health issues for many years, and in March of twenty
twenty three he spent three nights in hospital with bronchitis,
and in June that year underwent a three hour operation
to repair an abdominal hernia. So afraid, some bad news.
(26:56):
Plenty of well wishers though at Saint Peter's Basilica, plenty
of weld wishes throughout the Vatican. But yeah, pretty worrying
days for the Pope.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Very unfortunate timing because this is the wholy year, the anniversary,
the big Old celebrations, and he's missing out and he
will be missed. And finally, your textpayer's money has been
spent on researchers figuring out what a mummy smells like.
And when I say mummy, I mean an Egyptian mummy.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
Yes, fascinating this Apparently when you open up one of
these mummies, even five thousand years on, they actually smell
quite nice, I believe it, or not a pleasant smell
according to scientists, and that is due to the use
of resins and oils like pine cedar and juniper. So
this was a team from University College London looking at
(27:44):
basically collaborating and conservators and curators at the Egyptian Museum
in Cairo. They had a look at nine mummified bodies
and the smell has always been something that has fascinated
researchers because, as I mentioned, it's actually not pleasant. It
is not the smell of decay, and the smell is
a very key consideration for ancient Egyptians, it would appear,
(28:08):
particularly when it came to the mammification process. Even though
five thousand years on, of course things have changed, but
it was said that the smells that and the oils
that we used are really really rather pleasant This is
a seems to be a bizarre thing to investigate and research,
but nevertheless really interesting that something all those years on
(28:28):
can actually smell quite good.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Kevin, I thank you. It is now ten to six
Andrew Dickens, all right, it's a very damning inquiry, wasn't it?
And it found that public service agencies shared Kiwi's personal
information with third party agencies. Now, this inquiry followed alegations
that census and COVID vaccination data collected at Manya Dewa,
(28:50):
Malai was used to target Maldi voters and the tammy
caem cod o elliterate. So the report says STATS New
Zealand had insufficient safeguards in place to protect the personal data.
You know this is serious because the boss of Stats
in New Zealand, the big Boss, fell on his sword immediately.
Health New Zealand and the Ministry of Health were also
criticized for their roles in sharing the data. Now, Alan
(29:10):
Holds is an employment advocate who represented six Malai workers
and one MSD in the inquiry and joints me.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Now, hello allan morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
So what does this outcame mean for say, the whistleblowers.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Vindication and I guess what it means is that the
abuse that they've suffered, probably for eighteen months has been vindicated.
I think the real sad part about the entire story
is that the whistleblowers were telling the truth the entire time,
(29:45):
and without their bravery. And I'm talking about bravery because
all of them are faced retaliation and in different ways
abused in public, discredited publicly. I've been discredited publicly on
multiple occasions for actually standing up and telling the truth.
(30:06):
And without the whistle blowers, we wouldn't have this report.
And I think it's a bit disappointing that the Prime
Minister and the people involved haven't said thank you, brave
whistle browers for bringing this evidence to us in a
format that we could understand now.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Okay, but surely surely there was some wise we want
We'll want more, because while this inquiry says it should
not have been released, it doesn't actually say what the
information was then released to do. So it seems incomplete
in terms of the total misuse of it. There's a
lot that is unfocused.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
I think it's pretty clear the report, and I've read
the sixty eight page report, it sees that information was
shared private information of New zeal Is a complete census
form was shared with people that it shouldn't have been
shared with and it is a complete breach of privacy.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yes, so how contentious does that Tommikimikoto result seem now
to you?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
I think a number of us have believed for some
time that if it wasn't for the data being accessed
by dupay Mary, that the would be a different person
in Parliament right now in that seat.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
How much distress is this causing?
Speaker 7 (31:38):
I think all it's doing is is proving what a
lot of people have thought for a long time about
some of the processes that have operated, that there isn't
the confidence in the public service. And I say that
because this particular cases only the tip of the ice speak.
(32:02):
We have so many more whistle blower cases within the
public service of serious wrongdoing and that's that's what we're
talking about. And the report this is only the initial
stage where they're actually saying what the Public Service investigator found.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
A thank you for your work, thank you for your time.
This morning, that's Alan Wholesey represented the whistleblowers.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one room. Make your property
surgent symbol.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You talk Nike asking you're very good with the English language.
Is it football or soccer football? Thank you?
Speaker 13 (32:43):
No worries Brian Wroach this morning, and having read the
report yesterday, there's so many reports still to come, the
main one being or the criminal one potentially being the
one as to what the Murray party did or didn't
do with them. You know, say that he's sure that
another person should be in the in the time chem Well,
that's I mean, that's that's the thing. That's a parliament,
the parliament of the country potentially is not made up
(33:05):
correctly and so you know that that goes to everything
we believe in. But yesterday's report, I mean, how many
reports have you read over the years about the public
service being useless? And you know the government, the labor
governments stacked them to the gunnals, gave them all pay rises.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know you did you hear the comparison of the
number of agencies we have compared to Ireland to slit
here fifteen there? How to blow them up, get rid
of them?
Speaker 13 (33:25):
And for all of the angsting that was going on
last year about people losing their job and losing their
job's hard work. We've all lost our job. But I mean,
when you look at this report and how incompetent they are,
it's unbelievad anyway, So he's all the program opod.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Or good and I thank you, and I thank Kenzy,
my producer Libby who helped. And I'm Andrew Dickin. See
you again tomorrow. Have a great Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Her Heal.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
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