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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Andrew dickens on early edition with one roof make your
Property search simple, Used talks.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It'd be well, good morning to you. You're halfway there.
It's a Wednesday. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge and
coming up over the next sixteen minutes. From a famine
of rental properties in the market, we now have a feast.
So what changed and will we ever see rents going down?
We'll have that story for you in five. The astronauts
stranded in space are on their way home, so what
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have they been through. We're going to talk to a
former astronauts in ten minutes time, and the Putin Trump
talks which are going on as we speak. We'll bring
you the latest and we'll talk to your politics with
Robert Patman and we'll do that just before six. We'll
have correspondence from right around the world and New Zealand
at news as it breaks, and you can have your
say by texting me. The number of ninety two ninety
two or small charge does apply. It is now eight
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minutes after five.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
It's Wednesday, the nineteenth March, and the fragile karm of
a gaza has come to an abrupt end. More than
four hundred people have been killed and six hundred injured
in the Gaza strip after Israel launch strikes against what
it calls terror target. It ends the seas file that's
been placed in mid January, but Israel is pointing the
finger at Hamas.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Has reached a deadlock.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
He said yes more than once concrete proposals made by
the American Special Envoy who extendacies fire.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Hamas said no, And the families of Israeli hostages are
fearing the worst.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I think it's disastrous because we have our kidnap people
sitting there and it kill only either there will be
heard directly or by Zahamas. It will not bring anything good.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And of course to the story that we're all waiting for.
In the entire world is waiting for details from Donald
Trump's phone call with Vladimir Putin. It was understood that
the call was due to take place right now. Details
so far remains scarce, except for one fellaw who sees
it's going well. They're expected to talk a potential ceasefire
ideal in Ukraine. It appears nothing is off the table.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
We don't know really what the parameters. The President Trump
says that the vast majority of core elements of this
agreement have been agreed, but we don't know what those are.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We don't know if that is true.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
We don't know whether or not the Russians are prepared
to make any concessions.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, the government is putting ahead
of major welfare reforms. It includes narrowing the criteria for
the disability Benefit and changes to the job seeker Benefit.
It will save five million pounds by twenty thirty. Working Penson,
Secretary was very passionate about the whole thing in the
House of Commons.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
The status quote is unacceptable, but it is not inevitable.
We were elected on a mandate for change, to end
the sticky plaster approach. We believe in the valley and
potential of every single person that we all have something
positive to contribute and can make a difference.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
By the way, that's five billion, not five million. I apologize.
And finally, the last surviving Battle of Britain pilot John
Paddy Henningway has died at the age of one hundred
and five. He joined the Royal Air Force as a
teenager before World War II. He was awarded the Distinguished
Flying Cross. During the course of the war he was
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shot down four times. And the amazing thing about that
golden generation is that Paddy just kept on going back.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The first word on the News of the Day Early Edition.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
With Andrew Dickins and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple,
News Talk Sippy.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's ten out to five. Good morning, good morning, and
thank you for joining me. Now, cops, I got to
stay on the beat. In the Auckland CBD, the government
will boost anti crime measures across Central Auckland with one
point three million dollars worth of funding as a result
of the Proceeds of Crime Fund. Now that Proceeds of
Crime Fund caven in two thousand and nine. It lets
the New Zealand Police seize money and assets that have
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been obtained directly or indirectly from crimes and once all
the legal matters are addressed, the recover money is placed
in the Proceeds of Crime Fund to be spent. And
the whole thing was announced by the Auckland Minister Simmy
and Brown, Minister for Everything and Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee,
and it has been greeted wholeheartedly by retailers and residents.
It'll see the new Federal Streets station open twenty four
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to seven. By the way, that station will open in
the middle of the year. And of course all of
this is a good thing. My question has always been
why did we stop doing this in the first place.
The cop on the beat is assigned to one in
all citizens and criminals, that the police are in control
of the streets, not the rat bags. For me, it's
the first thing the police should fund, not the last.
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And that perception that it's not important is just reinforced
to me by the new funding coming from the Proceeds
of Crime fund and not the general budget. And another
question I have who thought that no cops on the
beat was a good idea in the first place. It's
tempting to blame Cuddle's Costa in the last government who
was soft on crime, but it's been going on far
longer than that. It's another example of public service being
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told to cut budgets and then going and cutting the
good stuff instead of the bad. And one more thing
about the funding. This is not just a problem for Auckland.
It's nationwide. It's in all our cities and towns and
suburban shopping centers. What about them, Well, we're going to
wait to see if the budget which is forthcoming will
show a changed emphasis. It's twelve after five. We are
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not the only country facing hard times. After the pandemic
caused an augy of government spending. Germany has had two
years of negative growth. So overnight a German spending package
was passed by the Bundestag. The proposed package includes spending
and debt brake reforms that needed a two thirds majority
they easily got. This is to give them a five
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hundred billion euro fund for infrastructure and the ability to
borrow more. In fact, Germany's government is looking to borrow
and spend up to a trillion euro Obviously defense a
big part of it with all the Ukraine thing. Now
to get it over the line, the new chancellor Mets
agreed on a four hundred million euro fund to fight
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climate change. So that's to appease the Greens. But at
a time when this country is embracing austerity and government restraint,
Germany is taking off the shackles, the world is still
borrowing and spending and that will have consequences for the
global economy and eventually US. And it's thirteen after five.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So Andrew Dicken, your talk.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Back question of the day is, if you're an investor
and landlord, are you back in the rental market because apparently,
all of a sudden there's a glut of rental properties
and in fact, you will not believe what landlords are
doing to get tenants. And we'll have that story next.
Here are news Talks at.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Big on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition
with Andrew Dickens and One Roof to make your property
search simple Youth Talks at B.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It's sixteen after five, So this is the question, is
your rental property back online? And if so, why you
can text me on ninety two ninety two. Because it
wasn't long ago that people looking for a rental property
we're fighting off hundreds of other applicants to find a
home to rent. It was tough, but that tide has turned.
There are so many rentals available that some landlords are
offering incentives. Some are saying come and rent my place.
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I'll give you a five hundred dollars grocery voucher. Others
are offering three weeks of rent to sign tenants up.
So how big is the gap between supply and demand. Why.
Serena Gibbon is from the Auckland Property Investors Association and Joints. So, now,
good morning to you, Serena.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
Good morning Andrew.
Speaker 9 (07:56):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm good. So is this common as a landlord offering
incentives all over the place.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
I wouldn't say it's terribly common.
Speaker 10 (08:04):
I think the fact that we're starting to hear stories
of these incentives popping up around the marketplace just tells
us how out of line some landlords rent expectations are
in terms of the market.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
So for those who do go for the sweetness, do
they work.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
On a case by case basis?
Speaker 10 (08:23):
I hope they work, But in general I think, look
at the end of the day, Andrew, if you put
a lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig, right,
So I think the better option for landlords is really
look at resetting their reta expectations. Also look at incentivizing
the tenants by upgrading their properties and lifting the property's standards.
So that's a more attractive option for someone to call
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a home. And I think for tenants, given all of
these choices, you know, rather than being distracted by a
five hundred dollars food voucher. Research the landlord, go on
the Tennessee tribe, you know, find out what kind of
landlords are they going to be dealing with. Research the properties,
compare the options that are out, because it's a really
good time to take advantage of that competitive edge.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
The problem though, of upgrading your property is that's even
more expensive than a five hundred dollars grocery voucher, so
it's hitting their margins.
Speaker 10 (09:13):
Well, not all upgrades would by not all upgrades will
be backbreaking in terms of financial commitment. And if you
do it, if you do it smartly, it could be
incredibly cost efficient, attractive to the tenants, and also add
value to the property. So I wouldn't write that off
straight away. I guess what I'm trying to say is,
you know, landlords and tennants are bit off looking for
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long term benefits rather than short term sweetness.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Okay, so when did we start to see a change
from the rental shortage that we got used to before
to and oversupply? Did the change in government bring back
the investors and the landlords? Are they more properties online?
Speaker 10 (09:48):
I wouldn't peg it with the change of government. I would, however,
say that around about a year ago we started hearing
stories of probably seeing vacant for longer open homes being
you know, not really having a lot of people visiting.
So but I think that is really much in line
with the economy very lock stamp or whereas you know,
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and exodus of the younger workforce from New Zealand to
the likes of Australia and the UK. You suddenly have
a bottoming out of tenant the tenant, a certain of
cord of tenants. But also you know, when I think
back to back in the post COVID days when we're
going around the country madly building infill terrace housings, you
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know what we're hearing is a lot of those terrat
housings are sitting empty, either as properties for sale or
probably for rent.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I have one last question, hopefully you can answer quickly.
There's a truism that rents never go down, they just
don't go up so fast. Could this gut possibly see
a drop in rental prices?
Speaker 10 (10:49):
Yeah, I think it definitely could see a dropping mental
prices in the short term.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Hope it doesn't last long of course.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And Serena given is from the orkand Property Investors Association,
And of course you say that. You know, I was
in the office the other day and we're talking about
these astronauts who are currently on their way home. They're
going to splash down about eleven o'clock this morning, and
they spent nine months in space when they thought they
were only going to be there for eight days. And
I thought that would be an amazing experience, but the
person I was talking to said that would be horrific.
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So what we've found as a fellow who's actually been
in space for a very long time, and he's going
to talk to us next. It's five twenty News Talks,
ABO News.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And Views You Trust to start your day.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's early edition with Andrew Dickens and one Roof Make
Your Property Search Simple.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
News Talks It Be.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's five twenty two. This is going to be a
movie one day, hasn't it. After nine months stranded in space,
NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams will be back
on Earth today. Their stay on the International Space Station
was only supposed to last eight days, but their mission
had to be extended after the spacecraft they arrived on
experienced technical issues, so then it ended out being nine months,
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we're expecting splash down just before eleven o'clock. I joined
now by retired NASA or astronaut Clayton Anderson. Clayton, good
morning to you, Clayton. Clayton Anderson from Houston, Texas. Good morning.
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There we go. We're just having a few little difficulties
with the whole thing. So well, we'll talk to him
in just a few moments time now. So Clayton's been
up in the International Space Station for one hundred and
sixty six days, which is pretty awesome in the first place.
He did that in one stint. But the question I
have for him, how about nine months? And how about
when you actually went up there for just eight days?
How are you mentally prepared for it? And I have
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another question for him as well. They went up on
a brand new Boeing star Liners spaceship, which once it
got there, they said, we can't use this anymore. So
where's that spaceship now? Is it still attached to the
International Space Station or did they jettison it space junk
and that's a problem, or is there any ability to
actually fix up the whole thing where the Clayton knows
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or not? And where the Clayton will actually join us
as another thing. Clayton, I think we have you now.
Speaker 11 (13:10):
Good morning too, well is it good morning, good night,
good day?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You're in New Zealand, whatever you like. You're in space, man,
every day was night and every night was day. So
you spend one hundred and sixty six days up there?
Could you have done nine months?
Speaker 9 (13:29):
Good question. My wife and I talked toward the end
of my five months day because there was some uncertainty
going on and between the two of us, given her
role as the general down on earth with my family,
we figured we could go one or two months after
but if we had to go much longer than that,
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it would start to strain everything.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Hell, what was the strain? I mean, you're up there,
you're having the world's most extraordinary experience. You'd know that
there's a risk of it all. So how does it
strain things?
Speaker 9 (14:02):
Well, you know, if you think about Butch and Sonny,
since that's kind of the topic.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Of the day.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
You know, when you don't know the end date, it
can make it harder, it could make it easy if
you don't focus on an end date, which is what
I did, right. I tried not to think about the
end because I didn't know when the end was coming.
That made it easier to deal with missing the wife,
missing the kids. But you know, I was counting on
my wife to do a lot for my family and
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that you know, nobody talks about the toll of the
wife and the family down below. You know, she was
the mom, the dad, the driver, the coach, the nurse,
the she did everything. And she my wife was a
NASA employee. She cut her job down. She had to
have a signed agreement with NASA to allow her to
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reduce her work week to thirty hours per week so
that she wouldn't get in trouble because she had so
much to do to take care of my kids at
the time. So you know, that's a big sacrifice for
the other half of your family.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
It does kind of show that Butch and Sonny, if
they've got through it, well, have what it takes, the
right stuff. You might want to say. It's also, i mean,
apart from the Boeing ship breaking down, it's also in
my view, American exceptionalism because no one was expecting people
to be there for nine months, only eight days, and
yet you kept them supplied with food, You keep them
supplied with oxygen. It was quite a remarkable thing.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
Well, you know, yes it was. But the supply process
was never affected by any of this. So supply ships
are typically cargo only things like a Russian progress that
come up and bring things on a regular basis. An
uncrewed dragon capsule can bring supplies lots of ways to
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do it. That was never affected. So even though they
had two extra guests on board, it probably wasn't a
big deal for them to keep them supplied with food, water, oxygen,
and clothing. You know, it might have been a little
tough at first until the first cargo ship came up,
but I'm sure they were scrambling on the ground to
make sure that Sonny and Butch got some stuff of
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theirs on that cargo ship to bring it up. So
you know, it's a process that's pretty well understood.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Okay, all right, Clayton, Yes, exactly right, and they showed
the right stuff. And thank you to our listeners who
said the Bone capsule came back to Worth without astronauts
about three months after it reached.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how It
by News talks Hip be News.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Looks h B. It is five twenty nine. Winston Peters
meets with Mico Rubio at eight o'clock this morning our time.
How impressive has he been his foreign minister. He's diplomatic,
he knows the values of signals. I don't think it
was a coincidence that he announced the war against what
values in public service just before his trip. Marco's age
will look at that. He'll google Winston and they go, oh,
he's one of us. He has extraordinary energy for a
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man of his age, considering he has lifetime devotion to
good drink and smokes. He's always overseas. That's the sign
of a good foreign minister. You should never see them.
They should always be overseas doing that job. All of
this stands in contradiction to his day to day contrarianism,
and he knows that rustles up his five percent threshold.
But when he is in a foreign minister position, that's
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the real Winston. He's just good at the former lawyer
who likes the game and is doing good stuff. We'll
have the details of what he talks to with Marco
after eleven. Today News Talk sibby.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Andrew Dickens on a early edition with one roof, make
your property Search, Simple, Youth Talk, Zibby, Oh, that's.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Lady Gaga and Telephone and her new album Mayhem just
debuted at number one on the Billboard two hundred chart
Bigger Sales week of twenty twenty five Female artist. She's
not over. That's fantastic news.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Now on the.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Astronauts, thank you Phil for your text. Ninety two. Ninety
two is the number. Phil says, these astronauts should be
coming back to a decent payday. The first three hours
at time and a half and then after that double time.
Can you imagine it? Though it's nine months of overtime
in space, I'll be h I'll be working overtime. My
thoughts about Winston Peters being in his element, Thank you
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to your text. Winstom Peters does a phenomenal job as
Foreign Minister, possibly the best foreign minister we've ever had.
Kudos to him. I agree, and Michelle reckons that he's
the right person for the right time and she could
not imagine Nanaia Mahuta doing the business at the moment,
So thank you. Now, we love our pies and the
Baker's New Zealand PI Awards are just starting the search
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for our best and they've released a fascinating fact. With
a population of sixty nine point five million, the British
Pie Awards attract nine hundred entries from a population, as
you say, just about seventy million, whereas the Bakeels New
Zealand Supreme Pie Awards attract five hundred and sixty entries
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and we have only five point twenty five million. We
love our pies. We eat one hundred million a year
and we're good at making them. So the other day
I'm wandering around my town center and there was a
visiting Canadian school rugby team. I said, hello, boys, what
you doing here? And they said, we've come to be
thrashed by a New Zealand school team. And I'm like, okay,
And what was the whole bakery thing? And they were
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going in and out for the pies. It was the
first time they ever had a New Zealand pie and
they adored it. There was one fellow who'd had four,
He had four. It was just I love these pies.
They were walking around the town said that they were
in the supermarket eating pies, loving New Zealand. So there
we go. Entries for the Bacel's New Zealand Pire awards
open on April twenty eighth. They close on June twenty sixth.
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The judging day got Tommy Ape already July twenty four.
Awards night July twenty nine, and this year's theme is
the seventies. It's twenty one to six. Andrew dickens, let's
go around the nation. Callum Proctor joins you fromdunedan Halle.
Callum morning, Andrew. We've talked already this week about South
Dunedin at floods. So there's war plans.
Speaker 12 (20:09):
Yeah, Well, look, the Council's taking a step forward to
consult with all the parties involved here. Residents will soon
be able to have their say on how to protect
the city's southern suburbs from flooding over the next seventy
five years. The Council voted in favor of allowing engagement
to begin with stakeholders and affected communities. Seven plans for
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climate adaptation costing up to seven billion dollars have been
proposed after those two reports found that half of South
Dunedin's buildings remain at risk of rainfall flooding. Mayor Jills
Raddick says residents wants improvements so they can continue to
live there, so he says. The council's responsible for starting
that process.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Now, okay, how's your weather?
Speaker 12 (20:50):
It's partly cloudy here today, southeasteries and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Good stuff, clais here, it joins you from Crastia Tale Claire,
good morning. So Sybby and Brown Todd councils to reverse
speed limits. Now your council is talking about it.
Speaker 13 (21:01):
Yes, so chrish Church City Council is going to consider
whether to reverse these thirty kilometers per hour limits. They
are meant to return to their original speeds by July
in order to comply with Simeon Brown's new Land transport rules. Interestingly,
for us here in Christchurch, three of the seven are
outside schools. That obviously has meant some reaction. Those roads
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will move to have variable thirty kilometers per hour limits,
which would only be in place during those drop off
and pick up times. Council will vote whether to approve
those changes today. It will cost rate payers almost one
hundred thousand dollars after we spent thirty thousand putting them
in place last year.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
How's you wear the credit?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Claire?
Speaker 13 (21:41):
Pretty miserable rain easing this morning. Clearing a bit later
fresh south westerlies and a high of seventeen.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Max told joins Us from Willington Helenax, good morning. We
had a burgary the other day and it resulted it
in death.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, quite a terrifying story. In the Peninsula suburb of
Merrimand this week, two adults awoke to when in true
in their home in the early hours of the morning
on Monday. There was a scuffle. Luckily neither were badly heard.
One was heard, but with minor injuries. The intruder fled.
The couple called police a short time later. Officers on
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the hunt found another man by his car on a
footpath in Mirramark, quite badly heard and he has now
died in hospital. Police are calling the break in a burglary.
The two incidents likely to be linked. Description of the
suspect as a man wearing a white cap, shorts and
gum boots. There's obviously fear that this guy may have
been prowling in the area in the weeks prior. There
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may have possibly been some unreported thefts. Police appealing for
any information they can get.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Really and I thank you. And what's the weather.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
It's going to be wet some rain through the day.
Fresh southerly. He's keeping things cool. Sixteen the High Central.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Thank you never written man who joins us from Walkinhall
and Neva. Good morning, so Tiertitudes and Shot. They're not
going to have a supermarket for a year.
Speaker 14 (22:56):
Correct, Well, what's happening is it willwords This is on
tier to Deo peninsu. It will shut its doors in April.
Food Stuff's planning a new world in its place after refurbishments.
As you say, this closure of the supermarket is going
to leave about fifteen thousand residents without a nearby supermarket
for over a year. So some of the shoppers now
they've told our newsrooms this is going to be tough
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for people, especially the elderly, with the next nearest supermarket
about two point six kilometers away. Shane Henderson, he's one
of the councilor's Ziaway Tukety councilor. He says, look, this
is going to cause a bit of inconvenience for residents
and you know those who are not used to using online,
we'll probably have to use that.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, this is interesting because food Stuff's taking over Woolworths
their site. You know, this is grocery churin which is
quite a good thing. How's Awkin's weather?
Speaker 14 (23:41):
Showers turning to rain, possibly heavy for a time. This
afternoon twenty one is the high here in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But we are heading for a nice enough weekend after
this weather scuds through, and I hope so because I
will be gone tomorrow and Friday. I'm on a three
day tramp in the coramand or the Pahe Coastal Track.
I'm wondering around the top round Port Jackson and I'm
hoping for some because I don't like tramping. This is
the wife's idea. This is a walk ruined, but I'm
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doing it and I'm hoping for good weather. It's seventeen
to six. Germany is spending and borrowing more, but the
UK is cutting benefits. Gavin Gray joins.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Usnakes international correspondence with Ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It's fourteen to six. Robert Petman on the geopolitical situation
in a few months time. But first Gavin Gray out
of the UK head Gavin either Andrew. So the government's
outlined five billion pounds of cuts to benefits. That's going
to create a reaction.
Speaker 15 (24:40):
It does sound like a terrific amount of money, isn't
it about eleven billion New Zealand dollars But actually it's
a drop in the ocean of the bill at the moment.
So health and disability related benefits have ballooned in recent years.
They currently stand at one hundred and forty billion New
Zealand dollars a year. So those are people who say
they're too sick to work, either physically and or mentally.
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But the projections are, with the figures rising as fast
as they am, that will grow to two hundred and
twenty billion within the next five years. This government has
now announced some cuts, but the cuts only equate to
about eleven billion New Zealand dollars a year. Opposition MP's
are saying, well, that's not enough. Others are saying it's
(25:23):
too much. Charities, Trade Union some of the government's own
MPs were among those to condemn the cuts. They say
the money should come from the wealthy and more or
the same should go to those who are too ill
to work, and that we're picking on the sort of
low hanging fruit the ones who can't answer back is
the argument. This has been difficult for the government, but well,
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let's see how it goes, and I dare say some
of the economists will be hoping more cuts are on
the way.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Absolutely difficult to be a labor person at this time
in these economies. Now there's a key international treaty that
bens antipersonnel land mindes, but Poland and the Bolt States
have announced plans to withdraw. They're worried about Russia. They
want to be able to use their minds.
Speaker 15 (26:06):
Yeah, this is more knock on, a ripple effect from
the invasion of Ukraine. So the Baltic States, Estonia, Latvia
and Lithuania, they are along with Poland in the NATO Alliance,
and all of them share borders with Russia. And they
basically have made it clear that they simply don't believe
that Vladimir Putin is satisfied with going into Ukraine. They
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fear that their countries on that border will be the
next Now they are all currently signatories of something called
the Ottawa Treaty, and it's also known as the mine
ban Treaty. It came into effect at the end of
the last millennium nineteen ninety seven, and it really its
aim is to ban anti personnel minds, those aimed at
humans around the world. It's been signed by more than
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one hundred and sixty countries, but China, India, Russia, Pakistan
and the US have never signed up to it. The
Baltic States are saying, actually, do you know what things
are changing? Security has deteriorated, things, risks have significantly increased,
So we're we're drawing from this treaty now awful weapons.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Gavin Gray, I, thank you new schalkz B. It's eleven
to six, So the phone call that the world has
been waiting for has taken place, in acted just for this.
We have no details about what was discussed, if anything
was agreed, We know nothing at this point. But we
do know that Donald Trump, the United States President, put
forward his cease fireplay and for Ukraine to his Russian
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counterpart of Vladimir Putin, and up until this point, Trump
has been very bullish about getting a deal, but Putin
has also said he has quote serious questions going into
the discussion. So to talk about this add more, I'm
joined by Otaga University International Relations professor Robert Patman. Hello,
Robert Oh, Hello, Robert, Hello, good morning, How are you
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very good? All right? He's Trump been just a little
bit too bullish and confidence, thinking that Putin would just
roll over.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
On his positive and certainly contrasts with that of Marco
Rubio and also other officials in the administration have been
much more mentioned. Mister Trump said had very positive expectations
of the phone call. We'll just have to see whether
those expectations translate into concrete results.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yes, he easily intimidated Ukraine, but Letimia Putin's another thing altogether.
Speaker 11 (28:31):
Well, he hasn't really put much pressure on mister Putin.
All the concessions have been from the victim of an invasion,
which is Ukraine, and he's already preemptively given away bold
in concessions to mister Putin. He said that he doesn't
envisage Ukraine joining NATO, which was a key demand of Russia.
And he also says that Ukraine will have to make
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territorial concessions, it will have to give up some of
the land stolen by Russia.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
All right, Well, Donald Trump always said this could be
resolved in wigs.
Speaker 11 (29:02):
Well, that's clearly not true. And the other thing here
is mister Trump may not be in a position to
deliver any peace even if he gets agreement with mister
Putin because ultimately it's the victim of the invasion Ukraine
that must agree to this, and they're adamant that, you know,
they've lost too many people as a result of Russia's
incursion and invasion to settle for anything less than the
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principles that everyone in national relations recognizes where she's full
territory integrity and restoration of state sovereignty.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
What did you make of the fact that the Baltic
states want land minds back.
Speaker 11 (29:34):
There's rising tension, yes, well, you see many countries in
europe An increasing in Germany as well, believe that Ukraine
is not This war is not just about Ukraine. It's
about stopping mister Putin from his expansionist vision of Russian
sphere of influence in Europe. And many countries fear that
if mister Trump hands mister Putin part of Ukraine as
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part of a peace deal, then that will have ramifications
for other countries. Many are convinced, as your commentation just said,
that mister Booty won't stop with Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
All right, to the other issue, Wins Peters is meeting
Marco Rubio in about ten minutes time to talk stuff.
But I suppose he's really going to be talking tariffs
rather than peace.
Speaker 11 (30:20):
Yes, and obviously we'll be looking to get some sort
of exemption from the tariffs that are being are going
to be announced i think in early April, against most
countries that export to the United States. I'm not confident
we will get an exemption because Australia wishes closest to
the United States than ourselves. It's already been indicated to them.
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They won't be getting an exemption on Australian exports like
an Aminimum steel, and that could have been greeted by
considerable disappointment by the Australian government. The other thing here
is even if we do get an exemption, the resulting
trade war that's breaking out will affect New Zealand. We
trade more than one hundred country around the world, so
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we may get some bilateral relief, but we'll probably have
some reverses on the multilateral front.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Okay, And of course we're worried. Winston's very worried about
security in the Pacific, So will he push that or.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
Yes, Well, I think mister Peters, to his credit, has
consistently argued the US should be more engaged in the Pacific,
and that message finally seemed to register with the Biden administration,
who stepped up their engagement in the region. However, the
Trump administration with their disestablishment of USIAID and also their
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withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord. Remember, for most Pacific
island nation states, climate changes their number one national security concern.
Those issues raised questions about how committed is the Trump
administration to the fate and the well being of the
Pacific island nations, and that in turn means that China
may have much greater scope to extend its influence than
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previously yep sorgo.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
What a great time to be an international relations professor
Robert Patman. I thank you for your time. It is
now seven minutes to six.
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