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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge you
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
US Talks b Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It has just gone six after five year on news
Talk said b Air raid sirens are reportedly sounding across
central Israel. This as there are plans, according to the US,
of an imminent attack. We will look at that this morning.
Plus Marsden Point getting a lifeline of sorts and it's
not oil capital gains tax. We're back into that. The
forgotten victims, I'll tell you who they are in this debate.
(00:40):
Plus Gavin Gray in the UK Marine La penn Is
on trial in Paris.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It is Wednesday, the second of October. The United States
has issued a statement saying it believes a ballistic missile
attack from Iran on Israel could be imminent. In April,
Arun launched drones and missiles towards Israel. So this happened
before many of them were intercepted before heading the ground.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
US was actively involved in helping Israel defend itself that
time around, and I'm told by a senior White House official,
but that is the case in this scenario as well.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
US oil prices up three percent this morning, reaching around
one hundred and ten New Zealand dollars on the back
of that news. Cook straight fairies limping along. No plan
that we know are so far for a replacement, and
there's a risk of more fery breakdowns in the meantime right.
Georgina Campbell from The Herald reports that we're looking at
emergency towing options and how much they might cost us. Yes,
(01:38):
new fairies are expensive, but boy, doing nothing's expensive too.
Multiple children have died following a bus fire and Bangkok
on a school trip. The bus crashed in caught fire.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Throughout the afternoon. We've watched ambulances and trucks coming backwards
and forwards along this main highway, it's one of the
main highways into Bangkok. To retrieve the bodies from that
burnt bus. They retrieved twenty retrieved twenty three by twenty
of them.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We believe our school children.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Terrible news. Even Wellington City Council get this. Is pausing
or canning cycle ways. An upgrade between Johnsonville and Tawer
is on pause to make cost savings of Wellington is
pausing cycle ways. You know, things are really really bad.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The first word on the News of the Day early.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Beds and a play store News Talk sippy, Good.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Morning, everybody. Nice to have your company. Just gone. Eight
minutes after five. The Global Dairy Trade auction numbers are out.
We'll get to those in a second. We know we
love those quite well. Not terrible today, I have to say,
first though, we're looking at speed and you know the
Simon Brown's copying some flak for wanting to increase the
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speed limits on some of our state highways, for wanting
to get rid of Labour's blanket ban, all that kind
of stuff. I'm just wondering, if you know, as a driver,
how focused are you on what you're actually doing when
you're driving, Because I know when i'm driving, not that
I'm on my phone, but I'm listening to the radio,
I'm drinking a coffee, and I'm letting the car, which
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is very technologically advanced these days, take care of everything else.
You know, beeps when you get close to a wall,
beeps if you leave the road. There's medium barriers, there's
traffic lights, there's stop signs, these giveaway signs, there's umpty
in different abs breaking, I mean, you name it. The
bells and whistles, we've got it. Are any of us
actually thinking about what we're doing? How often have you
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driven been on a road trip listening to a podcast
or maybe you're listening to news talks. He'd be and
just completely forgotten you were driving. You know, it happens.
It happens all the time. And I'm just wondering the
more safety measures we put in place, the more barriers
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we put in, the more signs and bells and whistles
and beep, be the crapper we become at driving? You know,
we don't think anymore when the traffic lights go out.
Do you notice how everybody is quite courteous, you know,
and you're paying attention to what's going on around you
because you don't want to be hit. You're actually focused,
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aren't you. So I'm just wondering, and maybe you disagree
with this, but I'm just wondering whether the more safety
measures and barriers we have in place, the worse we
become at driving. Ten after five Ryan Bridge nine two
is the number to text. We love your feedback. On
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that this morning. Don't text while you're driving, please. Their
global Jerry Trade results are out. This is our fortnightly results.
Up one point two percent overall, which is good because
we had a big dip a couple of weeks back.
You'll remember butter down slightly one point four percent, Mozzarella
down seven point seven percent, and I've got to store
for you this morning about mozzarella. The good news is
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that whole milk powders this is our big stuff. Whole
milk powder is up three percent. Skim milk powders down
slightly at zero point six percent. The mozzarella thing is
really interesting. Can you make mozzarella cheese and call it
dairy without cows? We'll look at that shortly soon. It
is eleven after five Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
applying store News Talk.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Zed B two is the number to text fourteen minutes
after five on News Talks dB Ryan. Most people drive
at one hundred and ten kilometers an hour on the motorways,
so why don't we just make that the speed limit?
I suppose that's one way to argue it, isn't it?
Sim and Brown? Looking at increasing on some motorways speed
limit to one hundred and twenty kilometers an hour. It
does feel good when you go faster, doesn't it. Ryan,
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I'm never going to be a passenger in your car.
I wouldn't either, Honestly, I wouldn't be a passenger in
my car. Unfortunately, some people don't have a choice. Nine
two nine two is the number to text. We're talking
about speed limits this morning. Also, this really bizarre story
that keeps popping up about and this is from the
Green Building Council on Aaron Zid yesterday about them filleding
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calls from people who've got brand new apartments and they're overheating.
What is up with that? And we're looking at our
consenting laws obviously and what needs to be done. There's
a review going on. But apparently what's happening is they're
building apartments. They are up to their eyeballs and pink
bats and then they have a tiny little crack that
they allow the windows on the second floors to open
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because of safety someone might fall out of it. So
you've got really a pink bats up the wazoo, a
really hot room and very little ventilation. If you're in
one of those times, I feel sorry for you. Nine
two ninety two. It is a quarter past five am Bridge.
So this developing news out of the US this morning
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to do with the Middle East. Officials there believe Iran
could be preparing to imminently strike Israel with a ballistic missile. Now,
there have been reports in the last few minutes of
air sirens sounding in central Israel. Will keep you up
to speed with what's happening there. First, though, we're going
to Danielle McLoughlin, a US correspondent political commentator, because there
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is a vice presidential debate happening in the US today.
But first, Danielle, what is the latest from the White House?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Right Ryan? So, you know, typically for any US administration,
they have said that they're tracking events very closely, of course,
and they're committed to Israel's defense. What that likely means
is the same thing that happened back in April, where
there was another attack that came from inside Iran, and
the US defense forces, both by ship and by air,
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helped get rid of about three hundred drones and missiles
basically shoot goes down before they got close to Israel.
So if it comes to that, the US will step
in a defensive role.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah. The other big thing happening in the US, of course,
is this, what's the final debate in the election? JD.
Vance and Tim Walls, because the Trump Harris campaigns aren't
doing another one.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
No, Well, Kamala Harris has said, you know, I'm up
for it, and Trump has currently said that he's not.
I think that choice may depend ultimately on how Vance
does tonight against Waltz. You've got this really sort of interesting,
really really different couple of guys, right, You've obviously got
Republican versus Democrat. You've got a Yale law school grad
and former private equity guy versus a former public school
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teacher and football coach. You know, very different in their approach.
Vance is very much a kind of a firebrand and
in a lot of ways is more conservative than Trump,
whereas whereas Waltz is a little bit more moderate. You know,
he seems kind of like nice, sort of older white guy.
I had to put it that way, but it's true,
and he's going to be aiming for the middle because
some people see Carmel Harris as too far right, as
(09:09):
left to progressive.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
People hate Varn saying.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
He is the least liked the vice presidential candidate in
the last thirty years, even LEAs like even less liked
than Sarah Palin, which is saying.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Is saying something. Do you think people are going to
watch this debate? Because I was having a look at
the audience size. There was sixty seven million for the
Trump Harris debate, and the VP debates typically don't do
that well, although Palen, you mentioned Palin Biden in two
thousand and eight, that was the biggest audience for a
VP debate ever, because obviously everybody wanted to see what
(09:49):
Sarah Palin was going to say. Do you think maybe
because Vance is so disliked, that people might tune in
just to see what happens.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Suggesting there's going to be some hate watching. Ryan, Hey,
I actually think you make a really good point, and
I don't mean to overstate, but I do think these
two are going to make a difference to the presidential
candidates in ways that we really don't see that often. Right,
Normally VP picks are pretty safe, but these guys are,
(10:20):
you know, a little especially with Dvance really kind of
out of the mainstream, and for someone who used to
be a vocal vote Trump critic, he's gone really far,
actually further out to the right than Trump has himself.
So his attacks cat ladies, you know, his attack Taylor Sworth.
He's repeated these crazy things about people eating pets in
the Midwest. I think there is more bars about this
(10:42):
than in normal years, when you know, the VP doesn't
feel like it matters.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, I think you might be right there, Danielle,
Thank you very much for your time. Daniel McLoughlin. You
is correspondent political commentator out in New York City.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
News and Views you trust.
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To start your day, It's early edition with Ryan Bridge
in Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Flying Store.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
News Talk ZIB.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Twenty one after five. Welcome back. So I'm going to
tell you in just a few moments after just before
the news at five thirty, actually, I'm going to tell
you who I think has been forgotten in this capital
gains tax debate. We're also going to chat to Gavin
Gray out of the UK at a quarter to six
this morning. Marine la pen Is on trial in Paris.
(11:24):
Also James McKenzie he's the Routers Bureau chief for Israel
and Palestine. We'll get the latest out of the Middle
East in just a few moments. Twenty one after five,
Brian Bridge, A new biorefinery at the Marsden Point Energy
Precinct is being proposed. This is never knows. Marsden Point
Channel Infrastructure has announced it's enterday conditional project development agreement
with Sedra Energy. It would utilize some of the oil
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refinery's decommissioned assets, which would be refurbished and reconfigured, and
it would take up approximately eighteen to twenty hectares of
land at the site. So it is good news, some
reprieve for Northland. Brian as the Bio Energy Association Chief executive,
he joins me this morning, Good morning, Brian, good morning,
how are you. I'm well, thank you. How hard is
it to convert an oil refinery into a biorefinery.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
Oh, that's quite commonly done around the world, although normally
it's done with an operating refinery, and unfortunately this one
was decommissioned and pulled apart, so this makes it a
lot harder to put it back together. But on the
other hand, I suppose it's lately goo. You know, you've
started fresh and you do different things.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Any idea how big this might be, how many jobs
that kind of thing.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
No, the aspect of what we're looking at here is
very early days and I don't know the detailed specific
in myself, but in general I can comment. And the
aspect of where we're going is that as we have
to replace petroleum type materials, whether it's for fuels with
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a bio fuel, or whether it's plastic moving to bioplastics,
all of these require the processing of the organics or
the biomass into a material that is then able to
be used as either that fuel or as a plastic
or any other bio based material.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
What sort of organics are we typically using?
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Look, we're not sure. I don't know enough about what
they are proposing on this, and I think for my
reading of it, it's very early days also for themselves.
But the aspect is we could use the natural resources
that New Zealander is rich for the biggest part of
course is biomass from trees. And you know a tree
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is a collection of chemicals that are holding hands in
a way which looks like a tree. We pull them
apart and we can repackage them to look like a
plastic handbag or something like this. So the aspect is
that we can look at quite small ones. There are
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people around New Zealand already who are doing this on
a small scale.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Go both isn't the problem though it's quite hard to
get to these trees, quite a labor intensive thing to do,
and to drag them out of the forest and take
them down to a biorefinery.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Well, you don't actually have any option as if you
think about how if we don't have petroleum and it's
one day for whatever reason we won't have it or
it'll be too expensive, then what are your options? And
you don't have any other options? So it's a better
of it's not a better cost.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, all right, Brian, thank you very much for your time.
It's Brian Cox. Here's the Bio Energy Association executive officer
with us this morning talking about I mean it is
got some good news for Marsden Point, the energy precinct
that could go from oil to biomass. It has just
gone twenty five minutes after five. If you're on Newstalks,
here'd beat nine to nine two is the numbers of
text coming up next? Why businesses Are they forgotten victims
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in this whole capital gains tax debate?
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It is twenty seven half to five year on News
TALKSB this morning. Great to have your company. So Luxeon's
back in the news, so's Jacinda. Actually this is a
Bryce Edwoods piece written about our MPs. So apparently own
two point two homes per MP, more than most of us.
Jasindra Adern made more than three hundred k while she
was in office selling a property our prime minister. Luxeon
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has made close to half a million dollars in capital gain.
I should say we don't know what he's spent on them. Now,
let's really talk about a capital gains tax, because we
essentially have one on investment property. It's the bright line test.
You can argue over how long that should be, and
governments have changed this from red to blue, you know,
ten to two years. So let's sideline property for just
(15:53):
a second and talk about businesses. Do you really think
it's fair to tax the gain on sale of a business?
Business owners take huge risk, They work incredibly hard, and
I'm not saying we don't, but they do work incredibly hard.
There's the stress, the late nights, the untold hours of
lost sleep. They employ people, they pay them, they pay
(16:16):
tax on their earnings as they go. They help support jobs,
They grow the economy. They provide that tax base that
we so desperately need for hospitals and education, et cetera.
And then when they finally are either burnt out or
wanting to move on and grow something else, bang, we
hit them with a tax on the sale of their business.
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That doesn't seem fair to me. We need people to
invest confidently into their businesses and grow them for the
benefit of all of us. I don't think a capital
gains tax on businesses will achieve that. And bread rich,
I would love to know your thoughts. Twenty nine minutes
half to five nine two ninety two is the number
to text mozzarella cheese in Israel. Story out of the
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BBC this morning. They're making it without dairy without cows.
Can you have mozzarella cheese without a and call it
dairy without a cow? I don't think so. Does it
present an existential threat to our mozzarella cheese? We'll talk
about that a little bit later on too. Plus the
latest out of the Middle East and Gavin Gray in
the UK.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
News Talk Sibby.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Good Morning New Zealand, that is twenty four away from
six year on news Talk said, be lots of your
feedback coming in on the capital gains tax. Will get
to that shortly the morning. Right now, if you're just
joining us, it's all going off in the Middle East again.
Iran is, according to the ABC, going to launch two
hundred and forty to two hundred and fifty missiles into Israel.
(18:13):
This attack, according to the White House, is going to
happen imminently now. The US Embassy in Tel Aviv has
issued a shelter in place warning for its staff. There
some context around this. It's happened before, so Iran has
directly fired missiles and used drones against Israel back in April.
That was the first time they had done it. Then
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ninety nine percent of those were intercepted before they managed
to hit Israeli soil. So the United States is working
with its ally in the region, Israel, to try and
make sure that that happens again. Essentially that the defense works,
that the safety works, that the Iron Dome protects Israel
(18:55):
from these anyway, We're going to our Middle East correspondent
this morning, who is an Israel that is coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Just before six Ryan Bridge.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Right now, We're going to our reporters around the country.
We start and Dunedin with Cullum proct to. Cullum calls
for the government to be transparent about the Dunedin hospital blowout.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Yr Morning, Ryan. This is from klufther Meyr Brian Kadogan.
He's come out swinging today over the matter. He says
people of the South have the right to see the
details of the so called three billion dollar hospital cost
blowout and that's last week by the government. He says
the figures should be there for the public to see. Also,
the Dunedin City Councils published a full page open letter
(19:34):
in the local paper here today addressed to the politicians
at Wellington. Are they calling on them to listen to
the people of the South and build what was promised?
Meror Jill's Radics says they're not ruling out further protest action.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
How's your weather today, Clem, It's.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Not a good to heavy rain watch here for tomorrow.
But the rain develops this morning with a southerly around midday.
Are high today of fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Right, thank you, Claires and christ Church this morning. Clear.
The families of the CTV building collapse coming to the
Council today, That's right, Ryan.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
The group is addressing Council today with concerns over proposed
building consent changes. Of course, one hundred and fifteen people
died when the CTV building pancakes and the earthquake. The
government's proposing to overhaul the consenting process, which sees different
interpretations across the country. The concern from the CTV Families Group, though,
is that shortcuts could be taken and that could lead
(20:27):
to another disaster. Family spokesperson man Al Casey will address
Council today and Engineering in zed Disciplinary Committee just last
week upheld a complaint against Alan Ray, whose company designed
the building as well.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Right. How's your weather, Claire, cloud.
Speaker 10 (20:42):
Increasing, A bit of rain on the forecast this evening,
northeasterlies and a high of eighteen.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
The rains that are a common clear. Thank Hugh Maxis
and Wellington max The interesting article in the Herald this
morning about the fairies. It's how do we tow them?
Speaker 11 (20:57):
Yeah, how do you solve a problem like the end
of Islander? Nikola willis away Back told us the government
would have a solution by the end of September. Now
the expectation is before the end of the year. It Meanwhile,
Treasury officials warning us the likelihood remains of incidents in
the cooks straight breakdowns, equipment failures, power outages, and that
our ability to respond is limited. Treasury Ministry of Transport
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want to look at a business case to investigate, as
you say, emergency towing possibilities. Maritime is understandably worried and
so you've got officials discussing what options remain after the
previous multi billion dollar deal was scrapped, the concern whether
it's would be good for money. What's left? We talked
(21:41):
last week about the push for any new ferries to
be rail enabled. The final call on all of this
will lie with ministers in probably the next month or two.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
All right, thank you for their weather in Wellington today.
Speaker 11 (21:53):
Mix partley, cloudy with some stronger northeries, a high of
sixteen in the city.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
All right, thank you. Neva is an with us this morning.
Good morning, good morning, lovely to see you. Yes, the
overnight parking, so we're all going to have to pay
for the parking or what.
Speaker 12 (22:07):
Well, this is going to be good news because it
has been delayed and I think some Auckland has a
lot of Auckland's will be happy about that. This is
about the new overnight parking charges and the CBD. Now
they were due to come into force yesterday. This is
where previous parking had been free outside those peak hours
of eight am to six pm or now at well,
they had delayed the changes back in May, right, that
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was back in May, also apologizing to be Wayne Brown
over inadequate communication because Wayne Brown was like, come on,
what's going on here? Communicate? So now in a statement
at says that the latest delay now this is about
allowing all the feedback to be heard on a suitable proposal.
So they're not going to make a decision until December
at the earliest. So that's good because yeah, like as
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you say, there's a lot of those apartments, residential apartments
that are affected because you know, if you've got two
cars and there's only one park and you know one
has to park outside, so you know you bag it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Aren't you you are? You are nineteen away from six?
How is the weather in Auckland today now?
Speaker 12 (23:07):
Sat a chowers turning to raye tonight possibly heavy. Then
we've got these strong northeasterlies gusting this afternoon. Nineteen is the.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
High brilliant, Thank you very much if you're just joining us.
The Israeli Defense Forces are tweeting that all Israeli civilians
are in bomb shelters right now as rockets from Iran
are being fired at Israel. So there are reports now
from the IDF that rockets are being fired from Iran
into Israel. We're going to talk to our Gavin Gray
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next out of the UK. But James mackenzie is the
Reuters bureau chief for Israel and Palestine. He's with us
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Speaker 3 (24:40):
You're just joining us with thorning. The Asradi Defense course
says that missiles are being intercepted over Israel. They are
being fired from Iran. We'll have more on that in
just a few moments. Right now, though, we're going to
Gavin Gray, our UK europe correspondent. The UK government they're
chartering a commercial flight to help get Brits out of Lebanon. Yep.
Speaker 13 (25:00):
Round they're up to six thousand UK nationals in leben
and some of course won't want to leave, and others
are still catching the few remaining commercial flights that are
out there. But this is the first of what potentially
could be several chartered flights by the British government. The
British Government will pay for them. They'll depart from Beirut,
but British Nationals are then going to be asked to
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be paying a fee of sort of seven hundred and
fifty eight hundred New Zealand dollars per seat. You can,
if you're a British national or dependent living in Lebanon,
request the space on the flight, and any non British
dependents board in the flight will require a visa. British
nationals and also for their spouse and partner. Children under
the age of eighteen are eligible to take it. Those
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who are vulnerable, elderly or indeed with children will have
a priority. And the plane we believe is scheduled to
leave roughly twenty four hours time from Beirut back to
the UK and I imagine it'll be very popular as
things get very uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, it's certainly hitting up, isn't it. Marine Lapin very quickly.
What's happening with her, the far right leader in France.
Speaker 13 (26:05):
Yeah, So a trial expected last up to two months
has begun with the Marine La Penn and twenty other
senior figures in her far right National Rally party in France.
They're accused of hiring assistants who worked on their own
party affairs rather than for the European Parliament, and it
was the European Parliament who's been paying their salary. Now,
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if found guilty, she could face fines and imprisonment, but
also potentially be declared ineligible to run for office for
up to ten years, and that, of course Ryan will
seriously dent her presidential ambition.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Certainly. Well, thank you so much for that. That is
Gavin Gray, a UK europe correspondent, just gone thirteen minutes away.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
From six Ryan Bridge.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
So the Israeli Defense Force is reporting right now that
rockets are being filed, missiles are being fired from Iran
into Israel being intercepted by the Iron Dome.
Speaker 14 (26:58):
The sky is above us are lighting up. We are
seeing Israeli Iron Dome interceptors and they appear to be
shooting down some of these missiles as they streak over
the skies of northern Israel.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
James McKinzie is the ROYCES Bureau chief for Israel and Palestine.
He's with US Live this morning. James, Welcome to the show. Hello,
tell me what's happening at the moment.
Speaker 15 (27:25):
Well, yes, as you were hearing this is a missile,
Barratt has been going on the sirens, sounding warning alerts
being sent out to people's mobile phones to take cover
and go to the shelters. This is, you know, the
second attack by Iran, an early one in April, and
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this is happening in the moment. It's a little difficult
to tell exactly what the impact has been. Certainly we
can hear booms, which are the typical when the when
the aerial defense system hits these missile. You know, we
canne the sirens, and you know, we're really just sort
of waiting to see how it's all in the playout.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, as you say, it is, it is early days.
It's only just happened in the last sort of ten
to fifteen minutes it started. But how big of a
deal is it given that that you know, Iran has
done this before in April, as you said, most of
the missiles were intercepted.
Speaker 15 (28:24):
Well, it's a very big deal in a sense, almost
regardless of whether the you know, of how successful area
defense system is, because you know, the first, the first
time this happened, not no significant damage was or very
little significant damage was caused, and you know, they seem
(28:47):
to be sort of tacit agreement to let it slide
is well, you know, struck back also in a kind
of limited way. But I think if it happens again,
then mistakes are definitely raised. We've already seen, you know,
really sharp up together essentially the beginning of a war
in Lebanon. You know, very very heavy is rarely air strikes.
(29:08):
This morning a ground incursion by commandos. Move the silent
background is now U And I think you know this
is you know, a very potentially a very dangerous step
up from that. You know, we're gonna have to see
what they decided to do, but you know, I think
(29:30):
this is definitely a very serious step.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
James, where are you right now?
Speaker 15 (29:37):
I'm in our office in Jerusalem and I'm where you
can maybe hear the hear the siren?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, are you not in a bombshell or are you
just in your office?
Speaker 15 (29:49):
Well, we have it. We have a we have a bombshell,
so that in our office.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's why I am And and can you tell me
do you think Israel is feeling I don't know if
emboldened is the right word to respond, but after obviously
taking out in israela and you know, going after his billa,
do you think that perhaps Israel's response to Iran, you know,
to these attacks might be stronger, might be different.
Speaker 15 (30:16):
I think so. I mean, it does seem, you know
that they were for a long time as well as
been kind of on the back foot over the you know,
the very the very critical you know, the world reaction
to you know, the campaign in Gaza with you know,
which has caused these these these huge number of casualties
can caused so much damage. I think you know that
(30:39):
that the sort of public moves been very much, you know,
from Israeli point of view, the successful operations that have
been having in on you know, the assassination of all
these you know, essentially the decapitation of the edible movement,
the leader, the raft of other you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I think we might be losing James there. That is
the voice of James mackenzie. He's the Reuters bureau chief
for Israel and Palestine. Are currently sheltering in a bomb
shelter inside the router's office in Jerusalem talking to us there.
The sirens you can hear in the background are air
sirens from warning of other imminent or a current strike
(31:30):
from Iran. We're hearing from the Israeli Defense Force that
at least one hundred missiles have been launched just in
the last ten to fifteen minutes from Iran into Israel.
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Why wouldn't they? Aren't you bored of this? Were capital
gains tax? I'm so bored of it?
Speaker 6 (32:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Why?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Well, because it's going to happen. It's inevitable. No, it's not.
It is We're going to have a capital gains tech
well we already have one, really because the gap between
the wealth gap is increasing and when it does us
fix it.
Speaker 16 (32:28):
No, No, is it inevitable.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Because it's that's politics. Stop parroting the labor parties. No, No,
I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm just saying
I think it will.
Speaker 16 (32:37):
I reckon there's a risk, and this is what this
is the view that I'm starting to form. I reckon,
there's a risk that we've harped on about this thing
for such a long time that it's actually got so
boring that it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
You mean, like climate change, kind of like you get
over the hump of it and then you're on the
other side.
Speaker 16 (32:53):
I think we've held out with white knuckled the hard
but here and the indication of that is that the
Labor Party itself, who have been banging on about this
for like a decade, have now finally stopped talking about
this in lieu of talking about a capital a capital
income test. They're relabeling it and talking about a wealth tax.
And so they themselves have moved on from this god
(33:14):
awful boring topic like mobot.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I look, I agree with you, I agree with you,
and I've been through that. I've went through that election
campaign when you know the Labor Party was pushing it
with golf and whatnot, like, oh god, you're flogging a
dead horse. It will happen at some point.
Speaker 16 (33:28):
Okay, well we'll take a bet.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
We'll take a bit. Yeah, I don't come up the
game that all of you your house, the game that
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Speaker 16 (33:39):
This Iranian situation is definitely a massive escalation and the
very thing we've been worried about, like the hope was
around would be all hot air as they always are.
But they have fired the missiles.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Does the spring the US?
Speaker 16 (33:50):
And we're going to after seven o'clock talk to a
Middle East journalist and find out what their take is.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Brilliant Heatherworth the next. That is it for me for today.
Have a fantastic one c tomorrow.
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