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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issues, the interviews, the US and the Insight.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Andrew Dickens on the early edition with.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and apply at stores,
news Dogs it'd be.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
There's welcome morning to you. Welcome to the last early
edition of the year. Leo, you made it. My name
is Andrew Dickens. Coming up over the next hour, You're
going to be freer to say anything you like on
campus with new freedom of speech rules introduced by David Seymour,
so we'll ask the universities how they feel about it.
That's coming up in just about five minutes. We're going
(00:38):
to run you through the new way to report scams
directly to authorities. Will do that in ten. The A
and Z senior economists will join us just before six
on his take where the economy is, because everyone's going
to have a take on where the economy is. That's
what we've done all week long. Vincent McAvennie is going
to join me from Europe. Will have correspondence around New Zealand,
will have news as its breaks. You can have your
(00:58):
say as well. You can text ninety two ninety two
small charge does apply and if you want to send
a longer decoration of your thoughts. You can email me
Dickins at these talksv dot co dot MZ. Here there
is seven up to five.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It is Friday, the twentieth of December. Dominique Pellico, the
ex husband of Giselle Pillico, has been found guilty of
aggravated rape and has received the maximum sentence of twenty
years after drugging and abusing his wife.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I want to express my gratitude, very profound to all
the people who supported me during this difficult time. I
wanted by opening the doors of this trial so that
society could see what was happening. I never regretted this decision.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
What a brave, brave woman. The other the fifty men
right have all been found guilty on various charges and
were sentenced, and apparently it's a lot lower. I think
the biggest one is fifteen years. I'll run through this
for you a little bit later on, because those fifty guys,
they're just as scumming as the guy as the hospital
that day. But they kind of got off, you could say, anyway.
Our URIs Amazon workers have gone on strike after Amazon
(02:12):
ignored a deadline for contract negotiations, which had been set
by the Teamsters. Workers at seven warehouses across the country
are taking part. Amazon, who don't recognize the union, says
it doesn't expect the strike to impact services. Merry Christmas
to you now. Vladimir Putin has held his annual end
of year press conference. It's a monster. He's following in
(02:32):
the steps of Donald Trump. This one took almost five hours.
For and a bit hours. He was asked about the
war in Ukraine as well as Russia's power when compared
to the United States.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I have to say the situation is changing drastically. Our
military men are regaining territory by square kilometer. I believe
that Russia has become significantly stronger over the last two
to three years. Why, because we're becoming a truly sovereign country.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'll try and run you through all of the stuff,
he said. He said an awful lot. It was fine,
but he did say he wished he invaded Ukraine earlier,
so maybe that a bit later. Meanwhile, the South Korean
MPs here's one hundred North Korean troops have been killed
in Ukraine while fighting for Russia. About ten thousand troops
from the DPRK North Korea have been sent to Ukraine
(03:17):
and to Japan, a country which has some of the
world's strictest rubbish sorting rules. The place is so tidy,
I tell you. New regulations in the city of Fukushima
were coming to force early next year to publicly name
and shame those who don't sort there rubbish correctly. City
had over nine thousand cases of non compliance last year.
It's ten out of five.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith's City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and Appliant store Youth Talk zippy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I enjoy waking up this early because you get the
afternoon and yesterday where I was was a beautiful blue
sky day. In fact, look, i'm as an awkward right.
In fact, I would have to say it was one
of the best days in Auckland I've ever experienced in
the fifty nine years that I've lived here. It was blue,
(04:11):
it was warm, and the high tide was just after eleven.
So I walked about a kilometer and I got to
a beach. The air was just as warm as you want.
It was sheltered from the southwester The beach looked like
some sort of ad for the Italian River era. It
was full of holiday and students and retired couples, full
of laughter and boom boxes and barbecues. And this was
(04:32):
a Thursday. And so I had a swim at eleven
o'clock in the morning. The sea was cold, Oh, but
it was lovely once he got in, just like the cliche.
And then I walked home going wow. Met a couple
of blokes I knew, said wow. They said wow. We
all said wow. It was so good. We went to
a cafe, ordered a French toast. It was delicious. This
(04:56):
day was just the best day. And then I opened
my phone and discovered that New Zealand was in the
worst recession since nineteen ninety one. There we go, that's funny.
Everyone seems so happy on the beach, in the township,
in the cafe, all over the place. But according to
my phone, we're at a deep and dark place. Later
I opened a story by Liam Dan of course from
(05:18):
the Herald, and he said, don't panic his thoughts, where
these figures are a measure from the past. The past
has been. It's not the future. It's not even now.
He says, the future has green shoots. Liam says, if
you survive twenty twenty four, you've been through the worse.
He says, keep calm and carry on, but that twenty
twenty five will not be some new paradise, new Nuvarna
(05:41):
or whatever. Some are still going to fall during the year.
But as he said, if you've made it this far,
well done, and for God's sake, carry on because this
is not forever. And can I just say, when time
is seeing tough, step outside, look around. We live in
a natural paradise. It's just the human one that we're
stuff done.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Andrew Dickens, all.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right, talk back Call of the Day. I see that
Roman's already been talking about it all morning long. Chris
Luxeon's not going to White Tongy this year. So what
it says Caul, He doesn't have to go White Tugy
days for all of New Zealand that's up and down
the country. There are plenty of places where he can
go to celebrate. So he's decided not to go to
White Toungy. All the Prime Minister, at some stage or
another decide not to go white into White Tongy. So
(06:24):
what I though, have always said, if I was Prime Minister,
I was always go. I would always go. I would
always go because it's the day and it's the place
and despite the odd rucus and flying dildos, it's actually
a very cool vibe. The food's amazing, the people are good,
the scenes are amazing. The lord in front of White
(06:45):
Tonguey is incredible. Have you been. Have you ever been
before you professed an opinion over the course of today,
you should. It's quite moving and it's a beautiful place.
But for me, the Prime Minister not going is not
a big deal. But if you haven't a opinion, feel
free to text me ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies,
because that's what we're here for, for you to have
(07:06):
an opinion. Speaking about opinions, David Simol has been working
on new freedom of speech rules for universities. He believes
that they've been down the wrong track. It's kind of
strange to have rules about freedom, but he's drawn them
up and we'll talk about them next and we'll talk
to the universities and whether they like them. It is
(07:28):
five fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew Dickins on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and Appliant store
US talks.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
It'd be yes. It is sixteen out to five. The
government has announced changes to free speech rules for universities.
It says it's concerned that they are currently taking a
risk based approach and they need more diverse opinions. The
new rules will set out expectations for universities on how
to approach freedom of speech issues, and each one will
have to adopt a free speech statement. Universities will also
(08:02):
be prohibited from taking positions on issues that don't relate
to their core functions. I'm sorry, I thought we're talking
about freedom of speech. There there's a prohibition. Sandra Gray
is the Tertiary Education Union president, joins me. Now, Hello Sandra, Sandra, Sorry,
good morning, good morning. It is a little ironic that
there's all these new rules on freedom of speech which
(08:23):
takes away your freedom.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Look, I thought you made a really good link there.
You know, we want freedom of speech, and yet we
want to prohibit what universities can and can't do. It's
a bit heavy handed, this approach to campus based speech,
to what goes on on university campuses, and it's good reasons.
We don't want individual governments dictating what can and can't
be talked about on a university campus.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Exactly. Okay, so you're worry. I believe is that it
will allow disinformation, misinformation, lies and untruths to be spread
at a place of intellectual and scientific rigor.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Look, we do need a universities to be very rigorous
in our house. Debate is conducted in what said there,
and we really don't need another space because there are
many many spaces where people can go out and just
say anything they think, anything they like, off the top
of their head without evidence. That's not what universities are for.
It's not going to help the New Zealand communities that
(09:21):
need research, that need rigorous research. It isn't going to
help us, as you know, academic communities be involved in
good debate. All this is going to do is give
people who have no background and an issue another platform,
another space to speak.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well, the whole thing is the legislation, and this is
out of the legislation's words. Will require universities to actively
promote an environment where ideas can be challenged, controversial issues discussed,
and diverse opinions expressed, and ensure that they are not
constraining the freedom of speech rights of students, staff for
invited speakers. It will also prohibit universities from adopting positions
on issues that do not directly relate to their core
(10:00):
role or functions. That's the whole thing about the legislation.
Do you not already do that?
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Well, I would say that universities are already a space
where ideas are hotly contested, and that's because that's how
you come up with new innovative ideas. Academic freedom is
already in legislation, and that's the rule that says you
have a responsibility to speak truth to power, to actually
say the controversial things that matter. So this seems like
(10:27):
an unnecessary piece of legislation, and it does seem like
it's going to interfere with the rights of the academic community,
with the rights of students to actually get on and
do the stuff they're already doing. Well, because since the
government can say that's not your coll business, well, what's
not all business?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
What will your free speech statement say?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
What will the free speech statements say? Well, actually, I
think universities have to have stronger academic freedom statements which
provide an obligation for academics to be involve in the
big debates of our age and do it with riga.
Not do it because they go wake up one morning
and say, I just want to go out and talk
about you know, climate change. I don't know anything about it.
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I never researched it, but I want to go and
talk about it. We don't want that, all right for
our academic.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Community, Sandra, Merry Christmas, thank you so much for waking
up early and joining us. All right, what do you
think of all that? Ninety two ninety two? It is
now five nineteen. There's a new way of actually reporting
scams and directly to the authorities. And we'll run you
through that new techniquest.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Andrew Dickens and Smith City New Zealand's furniture bids and
applying store youth talks.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That'd be Sid's true, Andrew. We had the best day
ever in APU yesterday. It rained all day. That's actually true.
It's so dry on the east, it's wet on the west.
It's a classic summer, all right. The governments announced an
easy way for technology companies to report scams directly to
the Department Internal Affairs it means why mobile phone report
(12:04):
junk on scam text messages. It will be reported straight
to the department. Danaebers Earlier is the founder and chief
technology officer of Rush Digital. Hello, Dan, welcome to the show.
Tell you what's this? What's this new kite?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
So I think you know a little bit of background.
You know, New Zealanders, it was about two hundred million
dollars a year and that's a rising number to scams,
and online scams are.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
A big part of that.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
And I think we've all probably received some form of
fishing text where you know, there's an unpaid poll or
some something some plan about of your bank and our
link to a dodgy u ur L that unfortunately a
lot of people do click on. Recently, private enterprise like
Apple and Google, the guys that provide all our cell phones,
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as well as sort of the connectivity company like Spark
and one of dead they've all kind of realized that
we all have to work together to solve this problem
because it's fairly complicated. And what this new feature does
means that when I use a symbol user identifies one
of these scam texts, they can easily report that as
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spamm to through their phone and it goes for central
database and the ISPs like one Who's ed in Stark
as well as the iPhone makers and a whole bunch
of other government agencies get access to that information and
they can do things like block text messages that have
the same information from continuing to go out. So it's
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kind of crowdsourcing this information to protect others.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So you just basically have a pressure button on your
phone and boom, everybody gets to know, from the Depound
of Internal Affairs to your phone provider to everybody.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Yeah, it basically gets an info analysis and if it's
you know, effectively there's a bunch of these, then yeah,
they can be blocked. It's a really easy thing to do.
So now I think on iOS or Apple Vice is
you just sort of delete delete a message from an
unknown sender and it kind of brings up the option
do you want to report this as junk? And that's
it's as simple as.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
That for you.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And do you think it will make a big difference.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, Look, Australia is implemented a really proactive approach with
a sort of a department for the National Anti Scam
or Anti Crimps Online crime ministry or whatever, and then
you know, in about a year, this kind of approach
has has has seen to you know, reduce the reduce
(14:36):
the success of these things quite considerably. It's a pretty
good strategy, right, Like you get two or three of
these things to users that you know are suspicious, and
the next couple of thousand are completely blocked. Right, So
it's a it's a pretty good approach, and I'm really
happy it's happening. Actually it's a bit late, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, yeah, everything's a bit late. Dan, I thank you
for waking up earlier. Marry Christ is to you as
five twenty five, the early.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Speaker 3 (15:08):
Lots of text about the freedom of speech. Here's one
universities are not rigorous. Because here's the thing, do they
need freedom of speech rules? Universities are not rigorous, writes
my text of they Woke. Climate change is one subject
where people were fired for disagreeing with the BS. Though
I do understand that the universities would argue that they
are in fact bringing scientific rigor because they believe the
science is right. But there we go. There's an opinion.
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It is our five twenty seven. Hey, we're here. We
made it last editorial for the year.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
What a year.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Ray started in January with goldris shoplifting. This year we
watched ten thousand jobs go from the public sector. Then
the private sector followed suit. We kind of forget about that.
Cash stop bouncing around the economy. National blame labor for everything,
Labor blame national. We watch Scott Robertson fail to be
the second Coming. But when the all backs were good,
they were very good. Positive about the future. The treat
(16:00):
Principles Act debate came saw and divided. The Hikoi invaded Parliament.
Hey but they didn't set up camp An. Entire newsroom disappeared.
Others seemed vulnerable, So that will be less eyes on
the game, whether you like it or not. Construction crash,
power surged and price mills closed, and towns pondered what
are we going to do next? The snow fell late,
a football team landed on the ground running. We found
(16:21):
out that state care in history in this country is
not caring. In fact, it's a national shame. A war
in Ukraine rolled on a war and Gaza started. A
country finally expelled its dictator Iran bombed Israel, Israel bombed Iran.
World War three sent closer than ever. China eyed Taiwan,
China eyed the Pacific, The States eyed China. We were
(16:42):
asked to choose sides more and more. Donald Trump won America.
He said, let's keep it simple and keep America first,
and tariffs are coming back. We will never forget you
twenty twenty four. But frankly, we're all sick of the
sight of you. We were saying the other day. Here
we are doing earlier day and breakfast shows right up
to Christmas with meaty issues. What happened to the old
(17:04):
days where in December we all just got a bit,
you know, loose and talked about shorts or jandles for summer,
or what is the best ice cream and where's the
best beat. No, we've been doing big stuff right up
to the end. Twenty twenty four. You delivered, and at
the same time you're paying the bum. And so it's
(17:25):
time for all of us to go to our families,
go to our favorite places, watch another summrise, rest and recuperate,
because in twenty twenty six we've got a big job
fixing all this stuff up. Dickens and speaking of which,
we will be talking to the A and Z Senior
economist about the pit that is our economy in twenty
(17:45):
minutes time.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Good morning, Andrew Dickens on early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's Furniture Beds and applying store youth talk.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Siddy, what a song and you only need one?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Might there, don't you? Snoopy's Christmas? I reckon STEVEE would
have done rock better if he wasn't flying a dog box.
I mean, dog boxes are not aerodynamically designed, but never mind.
Merry Christmas, everybody. I'm Andrew ditions Welcome to the program,
So Merry Christmas. Liam Lawson, mate, you made it. Finally,
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what a soap opera. It is a tricky road navigating
through Formula one. In Formula one, you've got to bring contacts.
You know, you've got to bring money, You've got to
bring marketing ability, and you need to bring value to
the brand you're going to race for. And apparently you
also need to be able to drive a car at
a level above all others. You know, when you consider
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the whole world drives a car, but there's only twenty
drivers who are given the privilege to drive these beasts
each year. Once you get there, you are very much
the best driver in the world, even the back runners,
you know, even the v botas even but as better
driver than you could ever imagine. But you know, Liam
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Lawson always had a destiny to make the team. He
was chosen by red Ball early and despite his young age,
he has served a very long apprenticeship and he's seen
some stuff, but that doesn't mean the seat would automatically
be his. And so he's had to fight his way
through this pool of sharks. He had to ride his luck.
He had to know when to open his mouth and
be lippy and when to shut up. There were many
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sliding doors moments when the movements of other drivers could
have affected his path, but he stayed true and he won.
He did it and he now has this enormous opportunity
in front of him. So look, congratulations to the entire
Lawson family. You've all been involved, you've all worked hard,
and you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Andrew Dickens, let's go around the country.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Black Betty joins us to talk about Dnedain Hallo Blake. Hi, Andrew,
how are you good? We're going to talk about the
Australasian harrier or coho, which is a great bird, and
we find out it's even greater than we thought.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
That's right, it's actually been trapped for the first time,
flying an impressive sixteen thousand kilometers to Otango.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Now.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
The bird is known to travel large areas, but the
distance hasn't been trapped until now. The adult male made
the journey from the one cato in under two weeks.
Doc is monitoring the bird to better understand how it
interacts and praise on threatened native birds. Tenantal advisor Thomas
Emmett says they don't know the extent of their threat
and hope to learn how much time they spend foraging
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around places were vulnerable natives live.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Why do go to Dunedin? I mean, what's wrong with
the white Keadow? It was too hot in the White Keado?
Did you want to cool the weather? But hold on,
it's been twenty seven degrees in Dunedin. No one knows
why he went out.
Speaker 10 (21:00):
Not at this stage, but hopefully that question will be
answered absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
How's your weather down there?
Speaker 10 (21:05):
So it's rain possibly heavy this morning fresh southeasterly is
turning southwesterly this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Hive twelve silly, Harriet, see you should have stayed in Hamilton.
I thank you, Claire. Show what joins us now? Hella Claire?
Good morning, Gee, what a surprise Canterbury's banned fireworks.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Well it is a bit of a surprise, Andrew, because
it's pouring with rain this morning. But Fire and Emergency
New Zealand has imposed a temporary ban for fireworks. It
affects the Porthills, Banks Peninsula and Kaitori tes Spit from
about twelve or from twelfth this afternoon until January sixth.
The Canterbury District Commander Dave Stakhouse says they did make
a similar move to this last year. It did almost
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eradicate the number of fires caused by fireworks over the
holiday period, so it clearly works.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
He says.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
We have already had an early start to the fire
season and despite recent rain or rain right now, it's
going to dry out really quickly. He says he's trying
to mitigate the risk but also give his firefighters a break.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Absolutely, it's called common sense.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
How is the weather today pouring down as I say,
possibly heavy falls at times, southeasterlyas turning fresh southwest and
high of sixteen thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Azariah Howell joins us from Wellington. Hello is Ai, Hello,
tell me about Wellington's top dogs.
Speaker 12 (22:15):
Yeah, so this is a great story. The Wellington City
Councils released a list of the most common dog names
and also the most unusual, summing up the year that
was twenty twenty four. The most popular pups were called Charlie,
followed by Poppy, then Bella, Luna and Coco, all kind
of what you'd expect used in more than one hundred
dog registrations each this year, but quirky dogs were also
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highlighted in the list. The council says some of the
most unusual pups registered are and I quote big Fudge, Flash, Sparkle,
Moonbeam and Charlie, Meatball, wiggle bottom. So if you see
a dog walking around the Capitol, there are chances that
it could be one of these interestingly named pups.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So cool, I thank you. And what's the weather?
Speaker 12 (23:00):
Yeah, gloomy weather as well today it's continuing rain, turning
to showers this afternoon, possibly heavy high of sixteen.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Thank you, and nor could Wendy Petrie.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
Hello Wendy, Good morning Andrews.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So there's a whole lot of members of a golf
club who want their fees refunders.
Speaker 13 (23:15):
Yeah, they're not very happy. Members of Auckland's Funga Parawa
community are banding together to liquidate the owners of an
abandoned golf course. It is the Golf Harbor country Club.
Now Ow's nearly four hundred thousand dollars a membership refunds
after abruptly closing Golf Harbor country Club in July last year.
It's on top of another fifty five million dollars owner
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greeg oliver Ow's to lenders and the b n z
A community group has consolidated the debt of more than
twenty five local creditors, and its legal advisor says that
the owner must have a payment pen by Friday or
face at the High court. Locals would like to see
the course restored to a world class facility.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Would you like to buy it?
Speaker 13 (23:54):
Have you got to the golf phase?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yes, well I think you need a hundred million dollars
to do it. Oh yeah, that's another TIB. That is
a problem that the locals have actually restored a couple
of holes. They have they've they've got sat there because
it's all overgrown. Now the greens are green. You know,
it's all gone overgrown, but they've actually restored a couple
of holes.
Speaker 13 (24:10):
Such a lot of maintenance.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, and then they realize just how much maintenance happens
as the greenkeeper. So there we go. How's Aukland's were now?
Speaker 13 (24:16):
Well, sounds like it's a bit showery around the country
and we're heading that way. And two partly cloudy showers
developed this afternoon, some heavy with thunderstorms possible northwesterlyis and
a twenty five degree high.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Thank you so much, Wendy. And this is your last
working day of the year, so enjoying a Christmas for
your family.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
Thank you and to you.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It is seventeen to six. And by the way, with
all the rain around the country, you need it. And
it's fair to say people complain about rain. I never
complain about rain. The perfect summer for me is five
days of sun and maybe a day of rain, and
maybe a few showers in a cloudy day as well,
just to keep cool. That's the perfect day of summer
so my garden doesn't dry out and everything dies. Last
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year my leamentry completely died, lost all the leaves. It
was just too dry. I went away for two weeks
it went poer, So bring on the rain and then
bring back the sun. It's a seventeen to six. Vladimir
Putin had a press conference today for more than four
hours and answered everything and in two minutes time. For
about two minutes, Vincent mcavini will try and summarize what
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he said.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
International correspondence with ends an eye insurance peace of mind
for New Zealand Business fourteen.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
To six from Europe. Vincent MCAVINNI, Good morning and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 14 (25:28):
Good morning, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
All right. Obviously, the senators handed down in the case
of Gazelle Pelico and her husband received the maximum twenty
year sentence. That's not a surprise for drugging his wife,
raping her and inviting dozens of strangers. But there's some
disappointment about the sentences for the fifty other men, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 14 (25:45):
This horrific case is grip not only France but the
world really and it came to its conclusion after three
months this morning. So, as you mentioned, Shazelle A Pelico's husband,
Domnique Pelico, received a twenty year sentence, the maximum sentence
for what he did. He's also under investigation for another
alleged rape and potentially alleged murder as well.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And then there was.
Speaker 14 (26:07):
A trial of fifty other men of the seventy two
that says believed to have he's had abusing her. That's
been documented in all this video and horrific footage. The
fifty that they were able to identify, they have been
given sentences sort of between five and eight years, so
not the maximum in the categories that they were going for.
(26:27):
So there is some disappointment in that we don't know
whether some of them are the will appeal. But Miss
Perico addressed France on leaving saying she regretted los giving
up her anonymity to come forward. She said it was
right to transfer the shame to these men. It was
quite an extraordinary scene outside the court, the world's press there,
all of these you know, men that had abused her,
(26:52):
was sort of trapsing into the court in the morning
just before she went in. So some extraordinary strength on
display from this.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, she was amazing, She was amazing. But most of
these men, the fifty men on trial, denied that what
they did was right because she was unconscious and therefore
did not know that they were raping her, and that
means France is having this huge discussion now about the
legal definition of rape and it's just terrific really. So
we'll move on to Vledimir Putin, who just did the
most epic end of year press conference more than four
(27:23):
hours nearly five.
Speaker 14 (27:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think we can use a press
conference somewhat in air quotes. There were questions from journalists there,
but then there's also sort of questions planted somewhat by
sort of callers allegedly calling in freely from around Russia.
But it's never quite been clear who these people are.
But he did take questions from the press that were there,
(27:47):
including some Western journalists. Those sort of headlines were that,
you know, he says that he should have gone into
Ukraine earlier and that he admitted that more preparation was
needed for what he's still calling his special military Operation.
He said he hasn't arranged any meetings yet with a
president allect Donald Trump, despite all the signals that they'll
probably be getting around the negotiation table next year to
(28:10):
try and come to some kind of settlement on the
Ukraine War's though they said. He said though that he
will be meeting Bashar Ala Sad, the deposed Syrian president
now in Moscow. And he also sort of reflected on
the fact that he says it wasn't a loss for Russia,
it was simply a complicated situation, and that he's not
(28:33):
spoken to Assad yet, but he expects to do so
at some point.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And look, you just said that at a minute, and
it took him for in a bit of ours. Thank
you so imagic viants as Megavini. Enjoy your Christmas and
enjoy your family. And not only that, Flared tomir Putin
also took the opportunity in this four and a half
hours to address domestic issues, including telephone scammers, the country's
low birth rate, and problems young people have facically been
trying to get a mortgage, the same problems all over
(28:58):
the world.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It is teen to six Andrew Diggins.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, it's not news because it happened yesterday. The gdpiggres
were worse than we thought. It fell by one percent
in the three months ending September to be one point
five percent lower than a year ago the year This
officially makes it the biggest recession since nineteen ninety one.
The GDP and Q two being revised down. Henry Russell
is the A and Z economist and joins you right
(29:22):
now looking at this car crash, Henry, how did you feel?
Speaker 15 (29:27):
Well, there was certainly some shock factor yesterday when we
saw the numbers. It really is to do with that
these these large revisions we've seen in the last two quarters,
and as you note, this is now the largest contraction
of six months period going back to nineteen ninety one.
That being said, you know, one might take from that
that things that they're slowdown has certainly been much worse
(29:49):
than fared, but it hasn't necessarily changed our expectation on
what lies ahead. If you think about these data, they
cover a period that finished nearly three months ago. Now
in that time, the Reserve Bank has delivered one hundred
basis points of cuts and we're seeing signs that the
economy is already responding in high frequency indicators. So the
hope is that this does bring to a close the
(30:12):
economy's troubling period over the past couple of years and
we will see a return to growth in the coming quarter.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Should the government be investing more and I say this
because Cameron bag we said at the beginning of the week,
you know they've got to cut their spending, but they've
also got to keep you know, firing on their part
of the economy because they have a responsibility to do that.
And of course the CEE to you who left leaning anyway,
I was saying, oh, you should be investing in during
a recession because it's never been cheaper, which I don't
know where they got that from, but whatever, should they
(30:39):
be continuing to spend, but it's going to be wise spending.
Speaker 15 (30:43):
I think it is important to note that, you know,
going back to what the Treasury said in the half
year update on Tuesday, the government is running structural fiscal
deficits for as far as the eye can see. And secondly,
the stabilizing stabilizing theonomy is not necessarily the role for government.
It is actually the responsibility of the Reserve Bank through
(31:05):
interest rates and the reason and the Reserve Bank certainly
could cut interest rates further based on the data yesterday,
but there's still some lingering inflation challenges out there. The
Reserve Bank will need to weigh that against designs the
economy is responding. So while we are traditionally fiscal policy
should be countercyclical in nature, and by that use, the
(31:28):
government should be spending during slowdowns or that's traditionally what's happened,
but there's no money left in the kitty. Essentially, we
do need to go through this period of consolidation because
there is going to be another shock on the horizon
at some point, and if we continue on the path
we're on, we are not going to be able to
(31:50):
respond to that crisis as may be necessary. So there
is a I mean, the government certainly needs to balance
both both sides of that.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Said, Henry, enjoy your Christmas as well. Thank you so
much for waking up early for us, and go well
Mery Christmas, mate, very Christmas.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I see that the Bank of Ingland has kept interest
rates the ocr at four point seventy five percent and
their warning of stagflation for England that they are bad.
There are bad economic news is all over the world
right now. There's all sorts of flows. Could there be war,
Could there be another earthquake? Could there be all sorts
of stuff? We need to get the house in order,
even though it hurts. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's seven
(32:29):
to six.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
The news you need this morning and the in Depth
Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture bids and applying store youth talk.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Sai'd be so.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
The good news, of course, is Liam Lawson. I've got
a text through, says good morning Andrew. Fantastic news regarding
Liam finally being rewarded for his hard working and determination.
There's only one problem is he's going to be Max
v Steppin's teammate, who is a complete ass. Merry Christmas, Andrew,
Marry christpher thank you. You know what? Can I just say? Texter?
Liam is a complete ass, but a nice one. How
do you know I've talked to him before that he's
(33:01):
an ass. Well you know, he's tough, he's got the
ability to, you know, yell you down. Does he make
his points? Oh no, no no, he's a tough and
as they call him, an always out driver. He's like
that in real life too, but a nice boy. The
difference with Max Max is like that all the time.
Speaker 16 (33:19):
The whole Well, you know, you become your job, don't
you do you? Do you not think you become your job?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I don't know, do you or do you not? I
question that.
Speaker 16 (33:26):
I think maybe he's you know, maybe if you if
you're an aggressive driver, you become an aggressive person eventually,
Like if you're a judge, you know you you become
bossy and dictatorial.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Oh and if you're a.
Speaker 16 (33:37):
Radio host, you become extremely opinionated, very loudly and restraints.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Andrews, how is the oll debate at dinner time when
you're deciding what to eat with the other half?
Speaker 16 (33:47):
Well normally, well normally it's quite. I have to okay,
I have to sometimes say to him, I have to
pause the news and say to him, listen, I need
you to calm down because I have had a day
of it and I just cannot deal with your feels
about the news tonight. And so then he comes down
for me.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
It's quite.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
It's a lot, isn't it. I went to a Christmas
party on Saturday and you know it still my mates
and you know we're walking in and Helen says, Andrew,
just start it down. Yeah, you take it down and
not take it down and stop and breathe because you're
going to have an instant opinion and all these other
guys got to have a dre not have an opinion.
In about ten.
Speaker 16 (34:21):
Minutes, listen, we're going to talk about the GDP. That
number was really really bad, So we'll have a chat
about that after seven and weether Adrian all was stuff
to marry merry Christmas and you see it the bed around.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hey, Leo, you're free go away.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
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The issues, the interviews, the US and the Insight.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Andrew Dickens on the early edition with.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and apply at stores,
news Dogs it'd be.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
There's welcome morning to you. Welcome to the last early
edition of the year. Leo, you made it. My name
is Andrew Dickens. Coming up over the next hour, You're
going to be freer to say anything you like on
campus with new freedom of speech rules introduced by David Seymour,
so we'll ask the universities how they feel about it.
That's coming up in just about five minutes. We're going
(00:38):
to run you through the new way to report scams
directly to authorities. Will do that in ten. The A
and Z senior economists will join us just before six
on his take where the economy is, because everyone's going
to have a take on where the economy is. That's
what we've done all week long. Vincent McAvennie is going
to join me from Europe. Will have correspondence around New Zealand,
will have news as its breaks. You can have your
(00:58):
say as well. You can text ninety two ninety two
small charge does apply and if you want to send
a longer decoration of your thoughts. You can email me
Dickins at these talksv dot co dot MZ. Here there
is seven up to five.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It is Friday, the twentieth of December. Dominique Pellico, the
ex husband of Giselle Pillico, has been found guilty of
aggravated rape and has received the maximum sentence of twenty
years after drugging and abusing his wife.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I want to express my gratitude, very profound to all
the people who supported me during this difficult time. I
wanted by opening the doors of this trial so that
society could see what was happening. I never regretted this decision.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
What a brave, brave woman. The other the fifty men
right have all been found guilty on various charges and
were sentenced, and apparently it's a lot lower. I think
the biggest one is fifteen years. I'll run through this
for you a little bit later on, because those fifty guys,
they're just as scumming as the guy as the hospital
that day. But they kind of got off, you could say, anyway.
Our URIs Amazon workers have gone on strike after Amazon
(02:12):
ignored a deadline for contract negotiations, which had been set
by the Teamsters. Workers at seven warehouses across the country
are taking part. Amazon, who don't recognize the union, says
it doesn't expect the strike to impact services. Merry Christmas
to you now. Vladimir Putin has held his annual end
of year press conference. It's a monster. He's following in
(02:32):
the steps of Donald Trump. This one took almost five hours.
For and a bit hours. He was asked about the
war in Ukraine as well as Russia's power when compared
to the United States.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I have to say the situation is changing drastically. Our
military men are regaining territory by square kilometer. I believe
that Russia has become significantly stronger over the last two
to three years. Why, because we're becoming a truly sovereign country.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'll try and run you through all of the stuff,
he said. He said an awful lot. It was fine,
but he did say he wished he invaded Ukraine earlier,
so maybe that a bit later. Meanwhile, the South Korean
MPs here's one hundred North Korean troops have been killed
in Ukraine while fighting for Russia. About ten thousand troops
from the DPRK North Korea have been sent to Ukraine
(03:17):
and to Japan, a country which has some of the
world's strictest rubbish sorting rules. The place is so tidy,
I tell you. New regulations in the city of Fukushima
were coming to force early next year to publicly name
and shame those who don't sort there rubbish correctly. City
had over nine thousand cases of non compliance last year.
It's ten out of five.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith's City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and Appliant store Youth Talk zippy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I enjoy waking up this early because you get the
afternoon and yesterday where I was was a beautiful blue
sky day. In fact, look, i'm as an awkward right.
In fact, I would have to say it was one
of the best days in Auckland I've ever experienced in
the fifty nine years that I've lived here. It was blue,
(04:11):
it was warm, and the high tide was just after eleven.
So I walked about a kilometer and I got to
a beach. The air was just as warm as you want.
It was sheltered from the southwester The beach looked like
some sort of ad for the Italian River era. It
was full of holiday and students and retired couples, full
of laughter and boom boxes and barbecues. And this was
(04:32):
a Thursday. And so I had a swim at eleven
o'clock in the morning. The sea was cold, Oh, but
it was lovely once he got in, just like the cliche.
And then I walked home going wow. Met a couple
of blokes I knew, said wow. They said wow. We
all said wow. It was so good. We went to
a cafe, ordered a French toast. It was delicious. This
(04:56):
day was just the best day. And then I opened
my phone and discovered that New Zealand was in the
worst recession since nineteen ninety one. There we go, that's funny.
Everyone seems so happy on the beach, in the township,
in the cafe, all over the place. But according to
my phone, we're at a deep and dark place. Later
I opened a story by Liam Dan of course from
(05:18):
the Herald, and he said, don't panic his thoughts, where
these figures are a measure from the past. The past
has been. It's not the future. It's not even now.
He says, the future has green shoots. Liam says, if
you survive twenty twenty four, you've been through the worse.
He says, keep calm and carry on, but that twenty
twenty five will not be some new paradise, new Nuvarna
(05:41):
or whatever. Some are still going to fall during the year.
But as he said, if you've made it this far,
well done, and for God's sake, carry on because this
is not forever. And can I just say, when time
is seeing tough, step outside, look around. We live in
a natural paradise. It's just the human one that we're
stuff done.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Andrew Dickens, all.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right, talk back Call of the Day. I see that
Roman's already been talking about it all morning long. Chris
Luxeon's not going to White Tongy this year. So what
it says Caul, He doesn't have to go White Tugy
days for all of New Zealand that's up and down
the country. There are plenty of places where he can
go to celebrate. So he's decided not to go to
White Toungy. All the Prime Minister, at some stage or
another decide not to go white into White Tongy. So
(06:24):
what I though, have always said, if I was Prime Minister,
I was always go. I would always go. I would
always go because it's the day and it's the place
and despite the odd rucus and flying dildos, it's actually
a very cool vibe. The food's amazing, the people are good,
the scenes are amazing. The lord in front of White
(06:45):
Tonguey is incredible. Have you been. Have you ever been
before you professed an opinion over the course of today,
you should. It's quite moving and it's a beautiful place.
But for me, the Prime Minister not going is not
a big deal. But if you haven't a opinion, feel
free to text me ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies,
because that's what we're here for, for you to have
(07:06):
an opinion. Speaking about opinions, David Simol has been working
on new freedom of speech rules for universities. He believes
that they've been down the wrong track. It's kind of
strange to have rules about freedom, but he's drawn them
up and we'll talk about them next and we'll talk
to the universities and whether they like them. It is
(07:28):
five fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew Dickins on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and Appliant store
US talks.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
It'd be yes. It is sixteen out to five. The
government has announced changes to free speech rules for universities.
It says it's concerned that they are currently taking a
risk based approach and they need more diverse opinions. The
new rules will set out expectations for universities on how
to approach freedom of speech issues, and each one will
have to adopt a free speech statement. Universities will also
(08:02):
be prohibited from taking positions on issues that don't relate
to their core functions. I'm sorry, I thought we're talking
about freedom of speech. There there's a prohibition. Sandra Gray
is the Tertiary Education Union president, joins me. Now, Hello Sandra, Sandra, Sorry,
good morning, good morning. It is a little ironic that
there's all these new rules on freedom of speech which
(08:23):
takes away your freedom.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Look, I thought you made a really good link there.
You know, we want freedom of speech, and yet we
want to prohibit what universities can and can't do. It's
a bit heavy handed, this approach to campus based speech,
to what goes on on university campuses, and it's good reasons.
We don't want individual governments dictating what can and can't
be talked about on a university campus.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Exactly. Okay, so you're worry. I believe is that it
will allow disinformation, misinformation, lies and untruths to be spread
at a place of intellectual and scientific rigor.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Look, we do need a universities to be very rigorous
in our house. Debate is conducted in what said there,
and we really don't need another space because there are
many many spaces where people can go out and just
say anything they think, anything they like, off the top
of their head without evidence. That's not what universities are for.
It's not going to help the New Zealand communities that
(09:21):
need research, that need rigorous research. It isn't going to
help us, as you know, academic communities be involved in
good debate. All this is going to do is give
people who have no background and an issue another platform,
another space to speak.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well, the whole thing is the legislation, and this is
out of the legislation's words. Will require universities to actively
promote an environment where ideas can be challenged, controversial issues discussed,
and diverse opinions expressed, and ensure that they are not
constraining the freedom of speech rights of students, staff for
invited speakers. It will also prohibit universities from adopting positions
on issues that do not directly relate to their core
(10:00):
role or functions. That's the whole thing about the legislation.
Do you not already do that?
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Well, I would say that universities are already a space
where ideas are hotly contested, and that's because that's how
you come up with new innovative ideas. Academic freedom is
already in legislation, and that's the rule that says you
have a responsibility to speak truth to power, to actually
say the controversial things that matter. So this seems like
(10:27):
an unnecessary piece of legislation, and it does seem like
it's going to interfere with the rights of the academic community,
with the rights of students to actually get on and
do the stuff they're already doing. Well, because since the
government can say that's not your coll business, well, what's
not all business?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
What will your free speech statement say?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
What will the free speech statements say? Well, actually, I
think universities have to have stronger academic freedom statements which
provide an obligation for academics to be involve in the
big debates of our age and do it with riga.
Not do it because they go wake up one morning
and say, I just want to go out and talk
about you know, climate change. I don't know anything about it.
(11:11):
I never researched it, but I want to go and
talk about it. We don't want that, all right for
our academic.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Community, Sandra, Merry Christmas, thank you so much for waking
up early and joining us. All right, what do you
think of all that? Ninety two ninety two? It is
now five nineteen. There's a new way of actually reporting
scams and directly to the authorities. And we'll run you
through that new techniquest.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Andrew Dickens and Smith City New Zealand's furniture bids and
applying store youth talks.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That'd be Sid's true, Andrew. We had the best day
ever in APU yesterday. It rained all day. That's actually true.
It's so dry on the east, it's wet on the west.
It's a classic summer, all right. The governments announced an
easy way for technology companies to report scams directly to
the Department Internal Affairs it means why mobile phone report
(12:04):
junk on scam text messages. It will be reported straight
to the department. Danaebers Earlier is the founder and chief
technology officer of Rush Digital. Hello, Dan, welcome to the show.
Tell you what's this? What's this new kite?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
So I think you know a little bit of background.
You know, New Zealanders, it was about two hundred million
dollars a year and that's a rising number to scams,
and online scams are.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
A big part of that.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
And I think we've all probably received some form of
fishing text where you know, there's an unpaid poll or
some something some plan about of your bank and our
link to a dodgy u ur L that unfortunately a
lot of people do click on. Recently, private enterprise like
Apple and Google, the guys that provide all our cell phones,
(12:54):
as well as sort of the connectivity company like Spark
and one of dead they've all kind of realized that
we all have to work together to solve this problem
because it's fairly complicated. And what this new feature does
means that when I use a symbol user identifies one
of these scam texts, they can easily report that as
(13:16):
spamm to through their phone and it goes for central
database and the ISPs like one Who's ed in Stark
as well as the iPhone makers and a whole bunch
of other government agencies get access to that information and
they can do things like block text messages that have
the same information from continuing to go out. So it's
(13:37):
kind of crowdsourcing this information to protect others.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So you just basically have a pressure button on your
phone and boom, everybody gets to know, from the Depound
of Internal Affairs to your phone provider to everybody.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Yeah, it basically gets an info analysis and if it's
you know, effectively there's a bunch of these, then yeah,
they can be blocked. It's a really easy thing to do.
So now I think on iOS or Apple Vice is
you just sort of delete delete a message from an
unknown sender and it kind of brings up the option
do you want to report this as junk? And that's
it's as simple as.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
That for you.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And do you think it will make a big difference.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, Look, Australia is implemented a really proactive approach with
a sort of a department for the National Anti Scam
or Anti Crimps Online crime ministry or whatever, and then
you know, in about a year, this kind of approach
has has has seen to you know, reduce the reduce
(14:36):
the success of these things quite considerably. It's a pretty
good strategy, right, Like you get two or three of
these things to users that you know are suspicious, and
the next couple of thousand are completely blocked. Right, So
it's a it's a pretty good approach, and I'm really
happy it's happening. Actually it's a bit late, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, yeah, everything's a bit late. Dan, I thank you
for waking up earlier. Marry Christ is to you as
five twenty five, the early.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks
at me.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Lots of text about the freedom of speech. Here's one
universities are not rigorous. Because here's the thing, do they
need freedom of speech rules? Universities are not rigorous, writes
my text of they Woke. Climate change is one subject
where people were fired for disagreeing with the BS. Though
I do understand that the universities would argue that they
are in fact bringing scientific rigor because they believe the
science is right. But there we go. There's an opinion.
(15:32):
It is our five twenty seven. Hey, we're here. We
made it last editorial for the year.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
What a year.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Ray started in January with goldris shoplifting. This year we
watched ten thousand jobs go from the public sector. Then
the private sector followed suit. We kind of forget about that.
Cash stop bouncing around the economy. National blame labor for everything,
Labor blame national. We watch Scott Robertson fail to be
the second Coming. But when the all backs were good,
they were very good. Positive about the future. The treat
(16:00):
Principles Act debate came saw and divided. The Hikoi invaded Parliament.
Hey but they didn't set up camp An. Entire newsroom disappeared.
Others seemed vulnerable, So that will be less eyes on
the game, whether you like it or not. Construction crash,
power surged and price mills closed, and towns pondered what
are we going to do next? The snow fell late,
a football team landed on the ground running. We found
(16:21):
out that state care in history in this country is
not caring. In fact, it's a national shame. A war
in Ukraine rolled on a war and Gaza started. A
country finally expelled its dictator Iran bombed Israel, Israel bombed Iran.
World War three sent closer than ever. China eyed Taiwan,
China eyed the Pacific, The States eyed China. We were
(16:42):
asked to choose sides more and more. Donald Trump won America.
He said, let's keep it simple and keep America first,
and tariffs are coming back. We will never forget you
twenty twenty four. But frankly, we're all sick of the
sight of you. We were saying the other day. Here
we are doing earlier day and breakfast shows right up
to Christmas with meaty issues. What happened to the old
(17:04):
days where in December we all just got a bit,
you know, loose and talked about shorts or jandles for summer,
or what is the best ice cream and where's the
best beat. No, we've been doing big stuff right up
to the end. Twenty twenty four. You delivered, and at
the same time you're paying the bum. And so it's
(17:25):
time for all of us to go to our families,
go to our favorite places, watch another summrise, rest and recuperate,
because in twenty twenty six we've got a big job
fixing all this stuff up. Dickens and speaking of which,
we will be talking to the A and Z Senior
economist about the pit that is our economy in twenty
(17:45):
minutes time.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Good morning, Andrew Dickens on early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's Furniture Beds and applying store youth talk.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Siddy, what a song and you only need one?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Might there, don't you? Snoopy's Christmas? I reckon STEVEE would
have done rock better if he wasn't flying a dog box.
I mean, dog boxes are not aerodynamically designed, but never mind.
Merry Christmas, everybody. I'm Andrew ditions Welcome to the program,
So Merry Christmas. Liam Lawson, mate, you made it. Finally,
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what a soap opera. It is a tricky road navigating
through Formula one. In Formula one, you've got to bring contacts.
You know, you've got to bring money, You've got to
bring marketing ability, and you need to bring value to
the brand you're going to race for. And apparently you
also need to be able to drive a car at
a level above all others. You know, when you consider
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the whole world drives a car, but there's only twenty
drivers who are given the privilege to drive these beasts
each year. Once you get there, you are very much
the best driver in the world, even the back runners,
you know, even the v botas even but as better
driver than you could ever imagine. But you know, Liam
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Lawson always had a destiny to make the team. He
was chosen by red Ball early and despite his young age,
he has served a very long apprenticeship and he's seen
some stuff, but that doesn't mean the seat would automatically
be his. And so he's had to fight his way
through this pool of sharks. He had to ride his luck.
He had to know when to open his mouth and
be lippy and when to shut up. There were many
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sliding doors moments when the movements of other drivers could
have affected his path, but he stayed true and he won.
He did it and he now has this enormous opportunity
in front of him. So look, congratulations to the entire
Lawson family. You've all been involved, you've all worked hard,
and you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Andrew Dickens, let's go around the country.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Black Betty joins us to talk about Dnedain Hallo Blake. Hi, Andrew,
how are you good? We're going to talk about the
Australasian harrier or coho, which is a great bird, and
we find out it's even greater than we thought.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
That's right, it's actually been trapped for the first time,
flying an impressive sixteen thousand kilometers to Otango.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Now.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
The bird is known to travel large areas, but the
distance hasn't been trapped until now. The adult male made
the journey from the one cato in under two weeks.
Doc is monitoring the bird to better understand how it
interacts and praise on threatened native birds. Tenantal advisor Thomas
Emmett says they don't know the extent of their threat
and hope to learn how much time they spend foraging
(20:46):
around places were vulnerable natives live.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Why do go to Dunedin? I mean, what's wrong with
the white Keadow? It was too hot in the White Keado?
Did you want to cool the weather? But hold on,
it's been twenty seven degrees in Dunedin. No one knows
why he went out.
Speaker 10 (21:00):
Not at this stage, but hopefully that question will be
answered absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
How's your weather down there?
Speaker 10 (21:05):
So it's rain possibly heavy this morning fresh southeasterly is
turning southwesterly this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Hive twelve silly, Harriet, see you should have stayed in Hamilton.
I thank you, Claire. Show what joins us now? Hella Claire?
Good morning, Gee, what a surprise Canterbury's banned fireworks.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Well it is a bit of a surprise, Andrew, because
it's pouring with rain this morning. But Fire and Emergency
New Zealand has imposed a temporary ban for fireworks. It
affects the Porthills, Banks Peninsula and Kaitori tes Spit from
about twelve or from twelfth this afternoon until January sixth.
The Canterbury District Commander Dave Stakhouse says they did make
a similar move to this last year. It did almost
(21:42):
eradicate the number of fires caused by fireworks over the
holiday period, so it clearly works.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
He says.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
We have already had an early start to the fire
season and despite recent rain or rain right now, it's
going to dry out really quickly. He says he's trying
to mitigate the risk but also give his firefighters a break.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Absolutely, it's called common sense.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
How is the weather today pouring down as I say,
possibly heavy falls at times, southeasterlyas turning fresh southwest and
high of sixteen thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Azariah Howell joins us from Wellington. Hello is Ai, Hello,
tell me about Wellington's top dogs.
Speaker 12 (22:15):
Yeah, so this is a great story. The Wellington City
Councils released a list of the most common dog names
and also the most unusual, summing up the year that
was twenty twenty four. The most popular pups were called Charlie,
followed by Poppy, then Bella, Luna and Coco, all kind
of what you'd expect used in more than one hundred
dog registrations each this year, but quirky dogs were also
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highlighted in the list. The council says some of the
most unusual pups registered are and I quote big Fudge, Flash, Sparkle,
Moonbeam and Charlie, Meatball, wiggle bottom. So if you see
a dog walking around the Capitol, there are chances that
it could be one of these interestingly named pups.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So cool, I thank you. And what's the weather?
Speaker 12 (23:00):
Yeah, gloomy weather as well today it's continuing rain, turning
to showers this afternoon, possibly heavy high of sixteen.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Thank you, and nor could Wendy Petrie.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
Hello Wendy, Good morning Andrews.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So there's a whole lot of members of a golf
club who want their fees refunders.
Speaker 13 (23:15):
Yeah, they're not very happy. Members of Auckland's Funga Parawa
community are banding together to liquidate the owners of an
abandoned golf course. It is the Golf Harbor country Club.
Now Ow's nearly four hundred thousand dollars a membership refunds
after abruptly closing Golf Harbor country Club in July last year.
It's on top of another fifty five million dollars owner
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greeg oliver Ow's to lenders and the b n z
A community group has consolidated the debt of more than
twenty five local creditors, and its legal advisor says that
the owner must have a payment pen by Friday or
face at the High court. Locals would like to see
the course restored to a world class facility.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Would you like to buy it?
Speaker 13 (23:54):
Have you got to the golf phase?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yes, well I think you need a hundred million dollars
to do it. Oh yeah, that's another TIB. That is
a problem that the locals have actually restored a couple
of holes. They have they've they've got sat there because
it's all overgrown. Now the greens are green. You know,
it's all gone overgrown, but they've actually restored a couple
of holes.
Speaker 13 (24:10):
Such a lot of maintenance.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, and then they realize just how much maintenance happens
as the greenkeeper. So there we go. How's Aukland's were now?
Speaker 13 (24:16):
Well, sounds like it's a bit showery around the country
and we're heading that way. And two partly cloudy showers
developed this afternoon, some heavy with thunderstorms possible northwesterlyis and
a twenty five degree high.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Thank you so much, Wendy. And this is your last
working day of the year, so enjoying a Christmas for
your family.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
Thank you and to you.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It is seventeen to six. And by the way, with
all the rain around the country, you need it. And
it's fair to say people complain about rain. I never
complain about rain. The perfect summer for me is five
days of sun and maybe a day of rain, and
maybe a few showers in a cloudy day as well,
just to keep cool. That's the perfect day of summer
so my garden doesn't dry out and everything dies. Last
(24:52):
year my leamentry completely died, lost all the leaves. It
was just too dry. I went away for two weeks
it went poer, So bring on the rain and then
bring back the sun. It's a seventeen to six. Vladimir
Putin had a press conference today for more than four
hours and answered everything and in two minutes time. For
about two minutes, Vincent mcavini will try and summarize what
(25:15):
he said.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
International correspondence with ends an eye insurance peace of mind
for New Zealand Business fourteen.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
To six from Europe. Vincent MCAVINNI, Good morning and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 14 (25:28):
Good morning, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
All right. Obviously, the senators handed down in the case
of Gazelle Pelico and her husband received the maximum twenty
year sentence. That's not a surprise for drugging his wife,
raping her and inviting dozens of strangers. But there's some
disappointment about the sentences for the fifty other men, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 14 (25:45):
This horrific case is grip not only France but the
world really and it came to its conclusion after three
months this morning. So, as you mentioned, Shazelle A Pelico's husband,
Domnique Pelico, received a twenty year sentence, the maximum sentence
for what he did. He's also under investigation for another
alleged rape and potentially alleged murder as well.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And then there was.
Speaker 14 (26:07):
A trial of fifty other men of the seventy two
that says believed to have he's had abusing her. That's
been documented in all this video and horrific footage. The
fifty that they were able to identify, they have been
given sentences sort of between five and eight years, so
not the maximum in the categories that they were going for.
(26:27):
So there is some disappointment in that we don't know
whether some of them are the will appeal. But Miss
Perico addressed France on leaving saying she regretted los giving
up her anonymity to come forward. She said it was
right to transfer the shame to these men. It was
quite an extraordinary scene outside the court, the world's press there,
all of these you know, men that had abused her,
(26:52):
was sort of trapsing into the court in the morning
just before she went in. So some extraordinary strength on
display from this.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, she was amazing, She was amazing. But most of
these men, the fifty men on trial, denied that what
they did was right because she was unconscious and therefore
did not know that they were raping her, and that
means France is having this huge discussion now about the
legal definition of rape and it's just terrific really. So
we'll move on to Vledimir Putin, who just did the
most epic end of year press conference more than four
(27:23):
hours nearly five.
Speaker 14 (27:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think we can use a press
conference somewhat in air quotes. There were questions from journalists there,
but then there's also sort of questions planted somewhat by
sort of callers allegedly calling in freely from around Russia.
But it's never quite been clear who these people are.
But he did take questions from the press that were there,
(27:47):
including some Western journalists. Those sort of headlines were that,
you know, he says that he should have gone into
Ukraine earlier and that he admitted that more preparation was
needed for what he's still calling his special military Operation.
He said he hasn't arranged any meetings yet with a
president allect Donald Trump, despite all the signals that they'll
probably be getting around the negotiation table next year to
(28:10):
try and come to some kind of settlement on the
Ukraine War's though they said. He said though that he
will be meeting Bashar Ala Sad, the deposed Syrian president
now in Moscow. And he also sort of reflected on
the fact that he says it wasn't a loss for Russia,
it was simply a complicated situation, and that he's not
(28:33):
spoken to Assad yet, but he expects to do so
at some point.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And look, you just said that at a minute, and
it took him for in a bit of ours. Thank
you so imagic viants as Megavini. Enjoy your Christmas and
enjoy your family. And not only that, Flared tomir Putin
also took the opportunity in this four and a half
hours to address domestic issues, including telephone scammers, the country's
low birth rate, and problems young people have facically been
trying to get a mortgage, the same problems all over
(28:58):
the world.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It is teen to six Andrew Diggins.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, it's not news because it happened yesterday. The gdpiggres
were worse than we thought. It fell by one percent
in the three months ending September to be one point
five percent lower than a year ago the year This
officially makes it the biggest recession since nineteen ninety one.
The GDP and Q two being revised down. Henry Russell
is the A and Z economist and joins you right
(29:22):
now looking at this car crash, Henry, how did you feel?
Speaker 15 (29:27):
Well, there was certainly some shock factor yesterday when we
saw the numbers. It really is to do with that
these these large revisions we've seen in the last two quarters,
and as you note, this is now the largest contraction
of six months period going back to nineteen ninety one.
That being said, you know, one might take from that
that things that they're slowdown has certainly been much worse
(29:49):
than fared, but it hasn't necessarily changed our expectation on
what lies ahead. If you think about these data, they
cover a period that finished nearly three months ago. Now
in that time, the Reserve Bank has delivered one hundred
basis points of cuts and we're seeing signs that the
economy is already responding in high frequency indicators. So the
hope is that this does bring to a close the
(30:12):
economy's troubling period over the past couple of years and
we will see a return to growth in the coming quarter.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Should the government be investing more and I say this
because Cameron bag we said at the beginning of the week,
you know they've got to cut their spending, but they've
also got to keep you know, firing on their part
of the economy because they have a responsibility to do that.
And of course the CEE to you who left leaning anyway,
I was saying, oh, you should be investing in during
a recession because it's never been cheaper, which I don't
know where they got that from, but whatever, should they
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be continuing to spend, but it's going to be wise spending.
Speaker 15 (30:43):
I think it is important to note that, you know,
going back to what the Treasury said in the half
year update on Tuesday, the government is running structural fiscal
deficits for as far as the eye can see. And secondly,
the stabilizing stabilizing theonomy is not necessarily the role for government.
It is actually the responsibility of the Reserve Bank through
(31:05):
interest rates and the reason and the Reserve Bank certainly
could cut interest rates further based on the data yesterday,
but there's still some lingering inflation challenges out there. The
Reserve Bank will need to weigh that against designs the
economy is responding. So while we are traditionally fiscal policy
should be countercyclical in nature, and by that use, the
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government should be spending during slowdowns or that's traditionally what's happened,
but there's no money left in the kitty. Essentially, we
do need to go through this period of consolidation because
there is going to be another shock on the horizon
at some point, and if we continue on the path
we're on, we are not going to be able to
(31:50):
respond to that crisis as may be necessary. So there
is a I mean, the government certainly needs to balance
both both sides of that.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Said, Henry, enjoy your Christmas as well. Thank you so
much for waking up early for us, and go well
Mery Christmas, mate, very Christmas.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I see that the Bank of Ingland has kept interest
rates the ocr at four point seventy five percent and
their warning of stagflation for England that they are bad.
There are bad economic news is all over the world
right now. There's all sorts of flows. Could there be war,
Could there be another earthquake? Could there be all sorts
of stuff? We need to get the house in order,
even though it hurts. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's seven
(32:29):
to six.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
The news you need this morning and the in Depth
Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture bids and applying store youth talk.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Sai'd be so.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
The good news, of course, is Liam Lawson. I've got
a text through, says good morning Andrew. Fantastic news regarding
Liam finally being rewarded for his hard working and determination.
There's only one problem is he's going to be Max
v Steppin's teammate, who is a complete ass. Merry Christmas, Andrew,
Marry christpher thank you. You know what? Can I just say? Texter?
Liam is a complete ass, but a nice one. How
do you know I've talked to him before that he's
(33:01):
an ass. Well you know, he's tough, he's got the
ability to, you know, yell you down. Does he make
his points? Oh no, no no, he's a tough and
as they call him, an always out driver. He's like
that in real life too, but a nice boy. The
difference with Max Max is like that all the time.
Speaker 16 (33:19):
The whole Well, you know, you become your job, don't
you do you? Do you not think you become your job?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I don't know, do you or do you not? I
question that.
Speaker 16 (33:26):
I think maybe he's you know, maybe if you if
you're an aggressive driver, you become an aggressive person eventually,
Like if you're a judge, you know you you become
bossy and dictatorial.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Oh and if you're a.
Speaker 16 (33:37):
Radio host, you become extremely opinionated, very loudly and restraints.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Andrews, how is the oll debate at dinner time when
you're deciding what to eat with the other half?
Speaker 16 (33:47):
Well normally, well normally it's quite. I have to okay,
I have to sometimes say to him, I have to
pause the news and say to him, listen, I need
you to calm down because I have had a day
of it and I just cannot deal with your feels
about the news tonight. And so then he comes down
for me.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
It's quite.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
It's a lot, isn't it. I went to a Christmas
party on Saturday and you know it still my mates
and you know we're walking in and Helen says, Andrew,
just start it down. Yeah, you take it down and
not take it down and stop and breathe because you're
going to have an instant opinion and all these other
guys got to have a dre not have an opinion.
In about ten.
Speaker 16 (34:21):
Minutes, listen, we're going to talk about the GDP. That
number was really really bad, So we'll have a chat
about that after seven and weether Adrian all was stuff
to marry merry Christmas and you see it the bed around.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hey, Leo, you're free go away.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
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