February 20, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast for Friday 22nd of Feburary 2025, There has been no change to child poverty in the last year, Save the Children Advocacy and Research Director Jacqui Southey tells Andrew Dickens how the Government can change that.
A new QV CostBuilder study shows that there has been a huge increase to building costs over the past four years.
The New Zealand Defence Force is monitoring activity by a chinese naval taskforce, located 150 nautical miles from the coast of Sydney, Foreign Political Analyst Geoffrey Miller tells Andrew whether New Zealand needs to worry.
Get the Early Edition Full Show Podcast every weekday on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.
LISTEN ABOVE
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your
Property search Simple News Talks.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It'd be well, good morning, j you welcome to your
Friday of the first full week of the year. You
made it. Coming up on the program today. Now, some
big Chinese warships are loitering off the coasts of Sydney.
What's China up to? We've got a foreign policy expert
in five. What's this weekend's big sporting event? Clue it's
not Rugby. How much had building costs gone up over
(00:33):
the past four years? Actually the number is described as staggering.
We'll talk to a management expert who monitors the increasing
bills and child poverty rates in this country continue to
be high. We'll talk to an aid agency at the
frontline of poverty in New Zealand. We'll talk to correspondence
from right around New Zealand and around the world, and
we'll have news as it breaks and you can have
your say by giving me a text. Small charge applies,
(00:55):
and the number is ninety two ninety two and it's
seven after five.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So Friday, the twenty first of February, the Trump Visus.
Zelensky rift continues. The US presidents double down on his comments,
calling President to Zelensky a dictator and saying Russia holds
the cards and peace negotiations because it has taken a
lot of territory.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
A dictator without elections. Zelensky better move faster. He's not
going to have a country left. Got to move Gota
wove fast because the war is going in the wrong direction.
In the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the
war with Russia.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
I do I think the Russians want to see the
war end, and I do, I really do. But I
think they have the cards a little bit, because you know,
they're they've taken a lot of territory, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And meanwhile, the UK and Norway have reinforced their joint
defense against Russia. The countries say they're committing to enhancing
their critical undersea infrastructure. As Russia's aggression across Europe continues
to grow.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
We are able to send the message to any one
who may intend to cause harm to our critical national
infrastructure that we will see you.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
We've said, as two European nations that we will step
up further the support we give to Ukraine. Ukraine is
still fighting. We must keep them in the fight. We
must try and keep them strong.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And it's a very difficult day for Israel. Her mass
is returning the dead bodies of four hostages. The Israeli
Defense Force have confirmed coffins have been taken to the
National Institute of Forensic Medicine, where identification of the bodies
has already begun. And while there has not been any
formal identification as yet, they are thought to be Shiri Bibas,
(02:42):
her two young sons, and an eighty three year old
Odd Lifshitz, who was a peace activist and a journalist.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
People here in Israel have already begun the mourning for them.
I mean this ranges from the youngest hostage, who was
nine months old at the time that he was taken,
to the oldest, so it spans for generations.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And finally, kiss Gate, Spain's former football federation boss Luise
Rubialis has been found guilty of sexual assault for kissing
player Jenny Homosso without her consent. He was acquitted a
coercion for allegedly trying to pressure her Mosso into saying
publicly that the kiss was consensual. Spain's High Court has
ruled he will have to pay a fine the finders
(03:26):
near the eleven thousand euros. Remember this man, though, has
lost his career. It's ten after five.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property
Search and symbol us Talk Sippy.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So the Kumar case is a classic. We've seen it
before in these visa cases that go all the way
up to the minister. It puts the minister in an
unenvious position. If he said no, Chris Pink, you're cold
and heartless man. If he says yes, he opens up
the door to many others because he said a precedent.
Eighteen year old Damon Kumar's case highlighted that anyone born
(04:03):
after two thousand and six in New Zealand does not
get automatic citizenship. If you're born here after two thousand
and six, what you get is the most favorable immigration
status that either of your parents have. In Damon's case,
his parents were overstaying, which means even though he was
born here, he's an overstayer. He's lived every day of
(04:24):
his life in New Zealand. But Chris penk gave him
a reprieve. He can say he can stay, but his parents,
who have been here for twenty four years must leave,
which is no one's fault but their own. But it's
still a tragedy for the family. But here's the thing.
The precedent has now been set and the question is
how many other damons are out there? And our public
servants don't have a clue. Immigration in New Zealand says
(04:47):
it has no idea how many children have been born
to parents who had overstayed theirs at visa since two
thousand and six. In fact, they don't even know the
number of overstaying adults, so only did an estimate of
overstayer numbers was eight years ago. So look, I know,
immigrats in New Zealand has a lot to deal with
with over a million visas over the past decade. And yeah,
(05:10):
COVID got in the way and all that, and yes
there's a lot of paperwork, but you have one job
to figure out who's coming in and to figure out
who's overstaying. The Kumars flew under the radar for nearly
a quarter of a century, so much so that the
case came as a surprise to the Department and it
surprised the minister. It only came to light when a journalist,
(05:32):
Michael Mora brought it up. We should have known this.
People wonder why so many people don't rate the public service. Hey,
rugby's back on tonight. The Chiefs are up against the
Crusaders at seven and live on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio
and I'm looking forward to it. The question is are
the Crusaders really back up to speed and just how
good are the Chiefs? Tonight I will be happily slumped
(05:54):
in front of the TV after a long week with
a pino noir, and hopefully I'll stay awake until the
last whistle. But the big sporting event involving a ball
is not the rugby. It's good old fashioned football. It's
the third Kiwi Darby in the A League, the new
rivalry between orcandef C and Wellington Phoenix. It's back at Auckland.
A big crowd is expected. This is a great success.
Auklan's won the first two favorite to three peat it
(06:16):
and everyone who's surprised at how well orkandef C has
done in its debut season, I'll tell you the secret.
The secret is Steve Corriker, He's built a wall, watched
the game. Watch Auckland's back for Monster and boss around
the strikers. The fans get it. If you snub out
an attack, you get a raw from the fans. It's
almost as loud as scoring a goal. It's not pretty
to watch, but it's very pretty when they win, or
(06:37):
more appropriately, when they don't lose. And they're extremely fit.
So sorry, Wellington, I think it's Auckland's weekend. And finally,
of course, Joseph Parker versus Daniel Dubois for the heavyweight
Championship of the World. A bloke I know who knows,
reckons that Parker is a forty five percent chance, Dubois
fifty five. You know, forty five for Joseph considering his mindset.
(07:00):
That's good enough for me. It's a thirteen minutes out
to five. So there's a couple of Chinese warships one
hundred and fifty miles off the coast of Sydney. What
are they doing there and what is China trying to
say to us? We'll try and answer that question next.
It's five fourteen.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
Andrew dickens and one roof to make your property search simple.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You've talked, said they.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's sixteen minutes oufter five. So the New Zealand Defense
Force is monitoring activity by a Chinese naval task force.
There are about one hundred and fifty utical miles from
the coast of Sydney. We're watching them. Should we be worried?
Speaker 8 (07:36):
So?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Foreign policy analyst Jeffrey Miller joins me now and coomoding
to you, Jeffrey.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
What are they up to?
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Well, they're conducting a routine patrol, you might say, which
is what New Zealand also did in the Taiwan straight
last September when the hmn's is out or get sales
through there. So I think it is a sign of
heightened tensions, it is something that hasn't happened before, or
it is significant. Two hundred and seventy eight kilometers off
the coast of Sydney there is where those ships were
(08:06):
reportedly where they reportedly were around twenty four hours ago.
So it is significant. But I think we need to
be careful of not We need to be careful not
to overreact to all of this, as well as the
Australian Defense Minister y Say Richard Miles said, you know,
they're fully entitled to be there directing in importance with
international law. They're not in Australian territorial waters, and I
(08:30):
think we just need to calm down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yes, well, the Chinese know the rules. And of course
you've got to remember that the commander of the US
Indo Pacific Command, Admiral Samuel Papparo, happens to be in
Australia right now and he's meeting the Australia Chief of
Joint Operations in Canberra, so you know that's happening there.
So there's a bit of saber rattling happening out in
the sea.
Speaker 8 (08:49):
Yes, he there's a lot going on. I mean, I
don't think it's probably a direct response to that. You
don't sail down a frigate at a moment's notice. That
takes time to plan. These things does coincide though, with
the beginning of a new Trump administration, but I think
there are some really concerning developments. While we've all been
fixated on what's happening in Washington with Trump's statements, we've
(09:10):
had several close calls in the South China Sea, including
involving an Australian aircraft just quite recently around ten days ago,
and there was another one with the Philippines aircraft and
a Chinese helicopter just a couple of days ago. The
US tested an intercontinental ballistic missile into the Pacific this week,
reciprocating a Chinese test last year. Things are not getting
(09:33):
any better than the Endo Pacific in terms of the tensions.
I think it's imperatives that New Zealand continue to uphold
dialogue and Winston Peters is on his way to China
in the next ten days or so and where we
will meet with his counterpart one year. I think it's
really really important that he sits down in that they
have a fallen, frank and productive discussion on all of
all these matters. Because when you add and also what's
(09:55):
been happening with New Zealand's position on the Clock Islands,
I think this be watched in Beijing and perhaps New
Zealand's decided to come out with a more aggressive posturing
towards China this year. Perhaps it's to make the case
more for greater defense spending. Remember we're still waiting on
the defense Capability Plan that's coming out in the coming months,
(10:15):
and defense spending is going to go up to probably
close to two percent of GDP.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
What an excellent answer, Jeffrey. I have to say, you
just answered three questions that I was going to ask
you in one answer. So I thank you so much
for your time. That is Jeffrey Miller, foreign policy expert,
knows what he's talking about. But yes, Winston's going to China.
He's got to talk about the Pacific, not just the
Cork Islands. Yes, our defense spending is low, and now
we're going to have to talk about it because the
whole world is talking about defense spending. Interesting days. Though
(10:44):
I'm old enough to know that I'm worried about the
end of the world a lot from time to time,
and so far it hasn't happened, and I remain hopeful.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
On the way you I believe just how much it
cost to builder house these days? Is a fellow who's
down in christ Church, has names like Blackbird, and he
monitors all this stuff and writes reports for people, and
he will tell you exactly how expensive it is now
compared to what it was four years ago. That's next.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
News and Views you trust to start your day.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's the early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof
Make Your Property Search Simple Youth Talks.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It'd be Yeah five twenty two. We've got a text
from christ says Andrew with respect to the Kumars. What
I'd like to know is how the parents and the
sun have managed to live all these years. Where's the
money come from for all the essentials food, housing, clothing, power, transport?
Did they get some kind of welfare assistance? Chris applauds
the decision to send in the parents' home. Yet twenty
four years the Kumas were here. They must have got
phone contracts, they must have paid tax, maybe they got loans,
(11:41):
maybe they went to the doctor. There were so many
times when they interacted with the state and someone might
have gone, hold on, are you legal? But nobody did
for twenty four years. Yeah, five twenty two right the
twenty seven actions, So No. Five twenty two, five twenty two.
The new qv Cost Builder study shows that there has
been a huge increase to building costs over the past
(12:01):
four years. The study looked at the comparative cost of
a standard one hundred and fifty meter square home over
six main centers. The average increase was described as staggering.
The number is forty four percent, four percent more expensive
than four years ago. Biggest increases part of the north
Tonedin and Wellington. Mike Blackburn of Blackburn Management as a
(12:21):
construction analyst and joins me, Now, how are Mike.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
Good morning, Andrew, how are you?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I'm good. I remember the great JIB crisis during the
COVID and of course at supply chain crisis, but then
I thought we got over that, So where are all
these costs coming from?
Speaker 9 (12:36):
Well, look, Andrew, you are ed absolutely correct. So because
this report does cover that four year period back to
twenty twenty one, the most of those increases would have
occurred during that twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two period. Look,
the really, really good news is is that for the
last twelve months, the increase and I measure this on
(13:00):
a cost per square meter basis, the increase across average
across all of New Zealand is only three percent, So
the bulk of those increases occurred during that period. Now,
also bear in mind is that during that twenty twenty
one and twenty twenty two period we actually went through
the biggest building construction boom that New Zealand has ever seen.
(13:24):
And of course, from twenty twenty two through to twenty
twenty four, building consent numbers have fallen away quite significantly.
And of course the feature of the construction industry is
that as the market gets quieter, builders, merchants and builders
and developers become a lot more competitive. So we certainly
had seen a significant slow down in the increase in
(13:48):
the cost of building over this last two year period.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, but it's still forty four percent more expensive than
it was four or five six years ago. Someone has
to hold that cost now. Just looking at the products
we import a lot of should we do that less?
Should we be making more?
Speaker 9 (14:04):
Well, look, look, a large percentage of building materials are
manufactured here in New Zealand, or at least from raw materials.
We sort of see a lot of all the aluminium
windows are sort of assembled here in New Zealand. Obviously,
timber framing, a lot of that sort of stuff. One
of the things that the proposed new government legislation is
(14:27):
looking at doing is looking at making it easier to
bring alternative products into New Zealand so that we're not
sort of limited to just the handful of products that
are currently coming in, and of course all of these
things will contribute to making it easier, simpler and cheaper
to build.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
All right, Mike, I thank you Mike Blackburn. He's a
management consultant business advisor, works across business companies and developers
and professionals. And each month Mike produces a variety of
detailed reports and analysis of all sorts of building consent activity.
So you can google him and you can find and
then you can read his thoughts anytime you like. It
is five twenty six.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's News Talks FB, the early edition full show podcast
on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZIB.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Newstalks it B can we get Parliment back to work?
Just saying at a time when the Prime Minister is
urging us to work, work, work, work, work for growth, growth, growth, growth, growth,
Parliament's playing around with all sorts of unproductive publicity stunts.
So we had Winston. He's still banging on two days
later about using Altai Rah in the House. Ten minutes
debating time was spent on the topic yesterday. There's no
(15:31):
bill on the floor asking for a name change. We
know the sorts of people who like to feel good
by saying altail raw New Zealand. But it's not a thing.
Whatever happened to free speech? By the way, Winston if
Ricardo wants to say, Artiro, just roll your eyes and
move on. No bill, no story, but a lot of
time debating, and Winston's voters, you know, are lapping it up. Look,
(15:54):
I'm glad you're entertained. Meanwhile, the Treaty Principles Bill continues
to frustrate. Yesterday we had Jenny Shipley and Chrisphinnisson turning
up to rail against the law and they really did
rail against it too. Earlier Hekia Parata had a crack.
It is quite amazing to see the parade of National
Party grongdes who have been so keen to come out
against the bill, which shows that the bill is not
(16:16):
part of the National Party DNA. It never has been.
And we know this because we know the bill's not
going through. Asked the Prime Minister. It is a plaything
of act and it's eight percent support and no disrespect
to those people. I know you care deeply about the
general idea, but frankly the bill is a dog badly
written and you don't have any coalition partner supporting it.
(16:39):
It is sucking up vayable time and energy and money.
It's doing nothing for our productivity or our economy. And
that is the number one thing right now. It's not
going to happen. And yet the fast rumbles on. Glad, Glad,
you're entertained, dicads. Sorry that was a dramatic pause, and
Kenzie hit the play me some music, Kenzing, play me
(17:02):
some Lab. It's Electric Avenue this weekend in Christi. It's
this is the biggest festival in the Southern Hemisphere and
all sorts of people are playing. Unbelievably, the Prodigy are playing.
I saw the Prodigy years ago at a big day
out in of course the fire started. Lead singer Keith
Flint has since passed, but they've managed to find another
wind in their back. And here is a New Zealand band,
(17:22):
Lab who's going to be playing at the gig as well.
It's going to be a big one. Have fune some
Hagley all right, we got news in just a few
hours time and going to tell you about an exploding
e scooter and later, of course child poverty. This is
early edition imtre Dickens and this is Newstalk Zipby.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your
Property Search simple used talk Zibby.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
You probably know the.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Song as a Empire of the Sun, and they're playing
at Electric Avenue in christ Church. I asked Kenzick, my producer,
how many people go into this thing? Thirty twenty thousand?
She said, seventy seventy thousand people. This is a big
(18:26):
gig and it's happening in Hagley Park this weekend. I
was listening to the news just now and I heard
them talking about the oriental fruit fly, and I thought
to myself, how amazing that New Zealand public servants can
find an oriental fruit fly somewhere in the suburb, a
little week tiny fruit fly, and yet they couldn't find
the overstained kumars for over twenty four years. Another story
that's taking my eye is a charging battery has burst
(18:49):
into flames, destroying a home and killing two two cats.
Two cats died in the conflagration. It was a battery
that was part of an electric motorcycle. It was left
charging the owner was having a shower, and the owner
was listening to music, probably some Empire of the Sun,
and by the time, the neighbors actually knocked the way
into the house and said, make your house is on fire.
The house was too far gone, the cat's days were numbered,
(19:12):
and the owners have been left with nothing. And it
happens this sort of explosion not often, but enough. A
friend of mine had a scooter explode in her garage
because she overcharged it. The garage was a total write off.
It took a year to fix and to get rid
of the smell. Now my family uses electric scooters and
electric bikes to commute. I know we're those sorts of people.
(19:33):
We are concerned enough that we actually built a lean
to outside and we put some power in and we
make sure all the charging happens outside the house, and
all the charging happens while we're around with timers on
our watches, just to make sure that it doesn't blow up.
I was just saying that that's just a tip for
young players and texts that have come through in ninety
two ninety two. I've got to say this, Karen, thank you.
(19:53):
The treaty has had no influence on my reality at
all and never will. And Karen also says, be interesting
to see how much law are being paid to show
up to the Treaty Principal's Bill Select Committee. It is
another cravy train, Yes it is, and isn't that ironic?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Andrew Dickens run the country?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
We go Callen Procter? Is it otago?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Callum morning? Andrew So Environment Southland and wetland losses and
the High Court?
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Look.
Speaker 11 (20:19):
This was a ruling that High Court issued earlier this
week saying that Environments Southend failed to act against huge
wetland losses. Excuse me, the High Court saying that the
council failed to monitor and take action to protect wetlands
with massive amounts loss due to conversion to pasture. The
Environmental Law Initiatives described this as a landmark win for itself,
(20:42):
but says it's shocked at the lack of action. Between
ninety six and twenty eighteen, half of New Zealand's wetland
losses occurred in Southend. Environment south and now says that
they've provided clarification for its obligations and the issues are
addressed in its new Water and Land Plan.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Belts to that in the country. Dot co dot had
how's dinedin's weather.
Speaker 11 (21:02):
Chance for shower or two today high of twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Claire Sherwerd joins me now from Christier Telly Claire.
Speaker 12 (21:10):
About Electric Avenue. Can you hear me the Andrew we.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Can now My question for you, are you going to
Electric Avenue, because it sounds like the whole city is.
Speaker 12 (21:18):
I feel like I'm the only one who's not going
everyone else's. I think I've got all of the reporters
heading there, all of my sisters, all of my friends,
They're all off. They'll be joining about seventy thousand. As
you said at Hagley Avenue. This is the first year
that it runs across two days as well, which is
a pretty big deal. There has been unprecedented demand this year,
so we know that not only did it sell out
(21:39):
back in September, there's also a wait list of about
twenty thousand people and on any Facebook page you've got
tickets going for a premium now. The festival director, Callum Mitchell,
says the response was better than he even imagined. He
said the move to a two day event and the
range of international acts has been what's helped create a
lot of interest. He's expecting an emotional performance by UK
(21:59):
rock band and headline is The Prodigy, as the last
time they performed before the band member Keith Flint passed away,
was right here in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
So that's a nice touch exactly. That's why I was
surprised that they were coming, because Keith was a piece
of work. Keith was he was the original fire star. Hey,
how's the weather for the weekend for Electric Avenue.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Well, today's not looking as good. Could be some heavy
and thundery showers this morning, westerlies turning southerly, clearing and
a high of eighteen, but things to improve tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Maxtel joined us from Wellington Helmx Good morning. A one
punch killer sentence to prison.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Yeah, a very sad case. Twenty one year old Luke
Smith was killed in an unprovoked attack at the end
of a night out on Courtney Place in October. He
and his family had only eight months earlier emigrated to
New Zealand from South Africa seeking a better life. Yesterday afternoon,
twenty nine year old Sally was sentenced at the High
(22:55):
Court in Wellington more than two years about two years
behind bars the man's laughter. He had apparently punched Smith
for no apparent reason. Smith's family were in court yesterday,
his father telling the court that the day Sally killed Luke,
he had killed them as well, the parents. The father
has since set up a foundation in his son's name. Yeah,
(23:18):
absolute tragedy.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
All right, how'd your weather party?
Speaker 10 (23:22):
Cloudy today with occasional showers getting up into the mid twenties.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Have a good weekend, Max and Neva leti man who
joins me from Aukland.
Speaker 13 (23:28):
Hello, mourning.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
So level crossings in Auckland, they are pain and the proverbial.
Now the government, the good line, wants.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
To get rid of them.
Speaker 13 (23:36):
Yes, well, look what's happening now is that it's planning
to spend up to two hundred million dollars removing level
crossings here in Auckland. So Chris Bishop, the Transport minister,
he's expected to announce the investment today, Andrew and that
would see like seven level crossings this hasn't taken in
and Glen Ennis removed. Now they'll be replaced by these
new road bridges and station excess bridges. So that work
(23:59):
is expected to be completed around the time the City
rail Link opens next year. Bishop says, Look, this should
be quite good because people can experience the CRL's full
benefits and these removals will allow the frequent trains to
travel more along those lines.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
But this thing, I mean, I support this thing. It's
going to be a revolution. We're gonna love it for
the next twenty or thirty years. But it keeps on
getting more expensive every day.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I know.
Speaker 13 (24:20):
And what months?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know?
Speaker 13 (24:22):
Like that's why we haven't actually said, you know, it's
going to open. It will open, but when? What months? When?
But that funding is subject to approval by the NZTA board.
That's going to happen in April.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Okay, Orkin's with it today.
Speaker 13 (24:32):
Cloudy showers mainly those showers mainly this afternoon here in Auckland.
Today's hight twenty five.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And I thank you so much, Graham Rights Andrew. Two
days ago two houses burnt to Milldale in one fire
cause electric car charging. Health and Safety should ban them, really,
they're a major hazard. Or maybe they should just invent
a battery that doesn't actually blow up. And Joan writes
there are a lot of Indians like the Kumar overstairs,
and yes there are. And it's about time the immigration
department got on top of the thing. Sixteen minutes to six,
(25:01):
We're off to Europe in a moment with Vincent McAvennie
as the war of words continues between President Trump and
President Zelenski and before six the dire strait is the
dire state of child poverty in this country. And we'll
go to the front line and just hear just how
bad it is. Give for a place to retire in Aukland,
You'll be hard pressed to find a nicer spot than
(25:21):
some Hellias. It's got beautiful beaches and great cafes. I
know this my mother in law retired there. He had
a lovely time. So this is where the Hellia comes in.
The Helia is by Oceania. The Hellia is a modern,
beautiful boutique retirement residence with a welcoming community and fabulous stuff.
Everything at the Helia is designed with you in mind,
from the premium amenities to the weekly wellness clinics and
(25:44):
the inclusive community activities. They have a team to look
after the maintenance side of things, so you could enjoy
doing the things you want to do, but if you
want to give a helping hand you can. Now this
is retirement living that you've been dreaming of in a
wonderful location. A one bedroom apartment starts at nine hundred
and fifty grand two beardroom apartments start from one million,
four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, so it is within reach.
(26:08):
To learn more and to book your visit, go to
their website. It is the Hillia dot co dot in z.
That's all in one word THG H E L I
E R the Hillier dot Co dot.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Inzid International correspondence with insid Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It is thirteen to six. Vincent Mecavini joins me from Europe. Hello, Vincent, Hi,
good morning. So what's the reaction to the war of
words between Presidents Zelensky and Trump.
Speaker 14 (26:39):
Well, a huge reaction in what has been a world
wind week of diplomacy where Europe's sort of foundation belief
in the Transatlantic Alliance has really been shaken. So President
Trump numerous times now coming out and criticizing President Zelenski,
effectively trumpeting Kremlin propaganda lines, calling him a dictator, questioning
(26:59):
why he hasn't done elections, which is fully legal within
the Ukrainian martial law, saying that he's not very popular
when he does still enjoy a decent amount of popularity,
and saying Russia has all the cards sounding very sympathetic
to Vladimir Putin, and we know that. You know, Donald
Trump is trying to get as Zelenski to sign a
deal for rare earth minerals that are in Ukraine, which
(27:23):
could be something that you know, is a good card
for Ukraine to play. But simply Donald Trump wants those
minerals without any kind of security deal or backing. So
President Zelenski is in a very difficult position. But many
European leaders, including Sakir Starmer, the UK Prime Minister, and
German Charles the Schultz coming to his aid and saying
this is completely wrong. This is a lie.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yes, but it shows you that if you decide to
take on President Trump in a war of words, he
doesn't step back. In fact, he always wants the last
word and he's quite heavy to ramp it all up.
So well, welcome to the new reality. Okay, Spain's next
football boss, Luis Ruby Alie Hairs been fined. He got
guilty of some stuff and not guilty of other.
Speaker 14 (28:06):
Yeah, that's right. You might remember the Woman's World Cup
final down in sidneya you guys in twenty twenty three,
where Spain's team won and the Federation Football Federation boss
Luise ruby Alis just sort of grabbed one of the
players and kissed her and she seemed quite stunned by
it and said afterwards that it made her uncomfortable. Well,
(28:27):
he has been found guilty of sexual assault for kissing
at Jenny Hormoso without her consents, and he's been ordered
to pay a fine of over ten thousand euros by
Spain's High Course. And this created, of course a lot
of conversation at the time about what behaviors are acceptable
and not and it's sort of spawned a bit of
(28:47):
a me too movement in Spain in the subsequent years.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, it was a good thing
that had happened that you can see the final of course,
he's lost his career, but you know, asked for a
ysplus and I thank you so much. Have a great
week in Vincent Mecavini, Europe. The time is now ten
to six seconds. There has been no change to child
poverty in the last year. Data released yesterday by Stat's
New Zealand shows that seventeen point seven percent of all
(29:12):
children are in poverty and that is based on household
income after housing costs have been paid. So save the
Children in New Zealand's advocacy and research director as Jackie South,
who joins me.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
Now, hello, Jackie Childer Andrew.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Did you have any confidence that maybe the figures will
be better or were you expecting this?
Speaker 15 (29:32):
We were expecting this. We've we are coming off the
back of a period of very high living costs, high inflation.
We're also seeing that there's a lot of financial strife
out there and people.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Have lost their jobs.
Speaker 15 (29:44):
People are really feeling the cost of living, and we
know that we're in a recession.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
So we didn't expect a rosy picture.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Are you expecting it to give rosier or do you
think this will continue on in the medium term.
Speaker 15 (29:58):
Well, Unlessie makes significant change to the way that people
can access housing and that make it more affordable, whether
renting or owning a home, and also lift the lowest
incomes of the lowest income families, particularly for soule parent families,
this is not going to significantly change.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So seventeen point seven percent of all children are in
poverty based on household income after housing costs have been
taken out of the equation. So does that show that
the housing costs are the real issue in this country?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
Absolutely?
Speaker 15 (30:26):
We can see that the families on the lost incomes
to spending more than forty percent of their income on housing,
and that compares to twenty percent as a national average.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
And so quite simply, it's not affordable.
Speaker 15 (30:40):
It doesn't leave enough money to pay for the other
necessities in life, such as the energy costs, food costs,
to be able to service your car and make sure
you've got a decent car, money to get you where
you need to go.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
So look, I had an interview earlier this morning where
I was talking to a guy about the cost of building,
and it's gone up forty four percent over the last
four years. Housing's not getting any more affordable. We know
this is the problem. We have been trying to fix
it for an age. So do you have any great
ideas about how the government could tackle child poverty, because
so far, with all the will in the world, it
hasn't worked well.
Speaker 15 (31:12):
I think we've seen some changes in the way we
build houses and the sort of houses we need. You know,
for a long type of decades we were building very
big homes, multi bedroom, very expensive, and we've seen that
people have gone towards and more lest the kits at home,
and they've really improved in quality, they're more compact, they're
cheaper to build, and you know, that's a potential way
(31:33):
of solving our issues as looking at how can we
build smaller, better, good quality homes but are definitely more affordable.
And the other thing is we need to look at,
you know, the lowest incomes and that's for our sole
parent families. They're struggling on forty six thousand per annum
disposable income and that's absolutely shockingly low by any measure
(31:53):
for a family to be trying to live on in
this day and age. Amongst the costs that we face
for base living.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Jackie, you faced and thank you for all the work
you do. Jackie is Save the Children, New Zealand's advocacy
and research director. And this is News Talks. Here'd be
It's seven to six and MICA's next.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
The News you Need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
your Property Search Simple.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
News Talks.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It be so earlier this morning. I compared the ability
of the state to find an oriental fruit fly in
a suburb compared to their ability to find an overstayer
who's been here for twenty four years, and that's, of
course the Kumar case. Sean writes to me. More, the
reason they can find a fruit flyer is because they
set a trap. If traps were set to find overstayers,
they'd likely find hundreds. And fair enough, you've got to say,
(32:40):
twenty four years. How on earth did they do it? Uh,
my costume joins me, Now, good morning.
Speaker 16 (32:45):
The reason they did it. So we talked about that
earlier on and people were under the impression that departments
sheer information, which of course they don't.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
I don't.
Speaker 16 (32:53):
So when you pay your tax, if you set up
your own company, you come to the country, you set
up your own company, you pay your tax, the ID
receives your tax. I wonder if you're an overstay, you
don't think about that.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's something to think about.
Speaker 16 (33:04):
Well, that's well, how many reports over the years, because
you've been around long enough, how many reports over the
years that have gone into the public service have they done?
Speaker 10 (33:11):
Going?
Speaker 16 (33:11):
There's not enough sharing of information and so it's the
same problem.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
With the computer systems are atrocious. Examine the Health Department,
the ancient the platforms that they're on ancient. It's going
to cost billions. Effects but that's just yet another problem.
I like your haircuts well, because you've got rid of
the summer mop.
Speaker 16 (33:28):
No, no, last time. I don't want to name names,
and I won't, but my hairdresser was away, so the
sub came in. The sub came in, and he's done
it before, so I wasn't a sub on one off,
but he done it for any Unfortunately, at the end
of it, he went, actually, I'm really pleased with that,
not interested in what you think, and so you're there
to grow out. And so what happened was because I'm
doing it back to the mast. That was three weeks growth.
(33:50):
Three weeks ago. Yeah, so three weeks so Greg was back,
and so yesterday we.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Got back to you. I thought, you're getting rid of
the summer mop. And then I thought, now has he
got rid of the crocs?
Speaker 16 (34:00):
How much I hate to think one eighty eight and
people ridicule me for that, but look at it.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I gotta go.
Speaker 16 (34:06):
How good do I look?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
You know?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Beautiful? Rudimentel Son comes up there playing Electric Avenue. I'm
Andrew Dickens. Thank you, Kensey. See you next week.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live
to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
The issues, the interviews and the insight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your
Property search Simple News Talks.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It'd be well, good morning, j you welcome to your
Friday of the first full week of the year. You
made it. Coming up on the program today. Now, some
big Chinese warships are loitering off the coasts of Sydney.
What's China up to? We've got a foreign policy expert
in five. What's this weekend's big sporting event? Clue it's
not Rugby. How much had building costs gone up over
(00:33):
the past four years? Actually the number is described as staggering.
We'll talk to a management expert who monitors the increasing
bills and child poverty rates in this country continue to
be high. We'll talk to an aid agency at the
frontline of poverty in New Zealand. We'll talk to correspondence
from right around New Zealand and around the world, and
we'll have news as it breaks and you can have
your say by giving me a text. Small charge applies,
(00:55):
and the number is ninety two ninety two and it's
seven after five.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So Friday, the twenty first of February, the Trump Visus.
Zelensky rift continues. The US presidents double down on his comments,
calling President to Zelensky a dictator and saying Russia holds
the cards and peace negotiations because it has taken a
lot of territory.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
A dictator without elections. Zelensky better move faster. He's not
going to have a country left. Got to move Gota
wove fast because the war is going in the wrong direction.
In the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the
war with Russia.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
I do I think the Russians want to see the
war end, and I do, I really do. But I
think they have the cards a little bit, because you know,
they're they've taken a lot of territory, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And meanwhile, the UK and Norway have reinforced their joint
defense against Russia. The countries say they're committing to enhancing
their critical undersea infrastructure. As Russia's aggression across Europe continues
to grow.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
We are able to send the message to any one
who may intend to cause harm to our critical national
infrastructure that we will see you.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
We've said, as two European nations that we will step
up further the support we give to Ukraine. Ukraine is
still fighting. We must keep them in the fight. We
must try and keep them strong.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And it's a very difficult day for Israel. Her mass
is returning the dead bodies of four hostages. The Israeli
Defense Force have confirmed coffins have been taken to the
National Institute of Forensic Medicine, where identification of the bodies
has already begun. And while there has not been any
formal identification as yet, they are thought to be Shiri Bibas,
(02:42):
her two young sons, and an eighty three year old
Odd Lifshitz, who was a peace activist and a journalist.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
People here in Israel have already begun the mourning for them.
I mean this ranges from the youngest hostage, who was
nine months old at the time that he was taken,
to the oldest, so it spans for generations.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And finally, kiss Gate, Spain's former football federation boss Luise
Rubialis has been found guilty of sexual assault for kissing
player Jenny Homosso without her consent. He was acquitted a
coercion for allegedly trying to pressure her Mosso into saying
publicly that the kiss was consensual. Spain's High Court has
ruled he will have to pay a fine the finders
(03:26):
near the eleven thousand euros. Remember this man, though, has
lost his career. It's ten after five.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property
Search and symbol us Talk Sippy.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So the Kumar case is a classic. We've seen it
before in these visa cases that go all the way
up to the minister. It puts the minister in an
unenvious position. If he said no, Chris Pink, you're cold
and heartless man. If he says yes, he opens up
the door to many others because he said a precedent.
Eighteen year old Damon Kumar's case highlighted that anyone born
(04:03):
after two thousand and six in New Zealand does not
get automatic citizenship. If you're born here after two thousand
and six, what you get is the most favorable immigration
status that either of your parents have. In Damon's case,
his parents were overstaying, which means even though he was
born here, he's an overstayer. He's lived every day of
(04:24):
his life in New Zealand. But Chris penk gave him
a reprieve. He can say he can stay, but his parents,
who have been here for twenty four years must leave,
which is no one's fault but their own. But it's
still a tragedy for the family. But here's the thing.
The precedent has now been set and the question is
how many other damons are out there? And our public
servants don't have a clue. Immigration in New Zealand says
(04:47):
it has no idea how many children have been born
to parents who had overstayed theirs at visa since two
thousand and six. In fact, they don't even know the
number of overstaying adults, so only did an estimate of
overstayer numbers was eight years ago. So look, I know,
immigrats in New Zealand has a lot to deal with
with over a million visas over the past decade. And yeah,
(05:10):
COVID got in the way and all that, and yes
there's a lot of paperwork, but you have one job
to figure out who's coming in and to figure out
who's overstaying. The Kumars flew under the radar for nearly
a quarter of a century, so much so that the
case came as a surprise to the Department and it
surprised the minister. It only came to light when a journalist,
(05:32):
Michael Mora brought it up. We should have known this.
People wonder why so many people don't rate the public service. Hey,
rugby's back on tonight. The Chiefs are up against the
Crusaders at seven and live on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio
and I'm looking forward to it. The question is are
the Crusaders really back up to speed and just how
good are the Chiefs? Tonight I will be happily slumped
(05:54):
in front of the TV after a long week with
a pino noir, and hopefully I'll stay awake until the
last whistle. But the big sporting event involving a ball
is not the rugby. It's good old fashioned football. It's
the third Kiwi Darby in the A League, the new
rivalry between orcandef C and Wellington Phoenix. It's back at Auckland.
A big crowd is expected. This is a great success.
Auklan's won the first two favorite to three peat it
(06:16):
and everyone who's surprised at how well orkandef C has
done in its debut season, I'll tell you the secret.
The secret is Steve Corriker, He's built a wall, watched
the game. Watch Auckland's back for Monster and boss around
the strikers. The fans get it. If you snub out
an attack, you get a raw from the fans. It's
almost as loud as scoring a goal. It's not pretty
to watch, but it's very pretty when they win, or
(06:37):
more appropriately, when they don't lose. And they're extremely fit.
So sorry, Wellington, I think it's Auckland's weekend. And finally,
of course, Joseph Parker versus Daniel Dubois for the heavyweight
Championship of the World. A bloke I know who knows,
reckons that Parker is a forty five percent chance, Dubois
fifty five. You know, forty five for Joseph considering his mindset.
(07:00):
That's good enough for me. It's a thirteen minutes out
to five. So there's a couple of Chinese warships one
hundred and fifty miles off the coast of Sydney. What
are they doing there and what is China trying to
say to us? We'll try and answer that question next.
It's five fourteen.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
Andrew dickens and one roof to make your property search simple.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You've talked, said they.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's sixteen minutes oufter five. So the New Zealand Defense
Force is monitoring activity by a Chinese naval task force.
There are about one hundred and fifty utical miles from
the coast of Sydney. We're watching them. Should we be worried?
Speaker 8 (07:36):
So?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Foreign policy analyst Jeffrey Miller joins me now and coomoding
to you, Jeffrey.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
What are they up to?
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Well, they're conducting a routine patrol, you might say, which
is what New Zealand also did in the Taiwan straight
last September when the hmn's is out or get sales
through there. So I think it is a sign of
heightened tensions, it is something that hasn't happened before, or
it is significant. Two hundred and seventy eight kilometers off
the coast of Sydney there is where those ships were
(08:06):
reportedly where they reportedly were around twenty four hours ago.
So it is significant. But I think we need to
be careful of not We need to be careful not
to overreact to all of this, as well as the
Australian Defense Minister y Say Richard Miles said, you know,
they're fully entitled to be there directing in importance with
international law. They're not in Australian territorial waters, and I
(08:30):
think we just need to calm down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yes, well, the Chinese know the rules. And of course
you've got to remember that the commander of the US
Indo Pacific Command, Admiral Samuel Papparo, happens to be in
Australia right now and he's meeting the Australia Chief of
Joint Operations in Canberra, so you know that's happening there.
So there's a bit of saber rattling happening out in
the sea.
Speaker 8 (08:49):
Yes, he there's a lot going on. I mean, I
don't think it's probably a direct response to that. You
don't sail down a frigate at a moment's notice. That
takes time to plan. These things does coincide though, with
the beginning of a new Trump administration, but I think
there are some really concerning developments. While we've all been
fixated on what's happening in Washington with Trump's statements, we've
(09:10):
had several close calls in the South China Sea, including
involving an Australian aircraft just quite recently around ten days ago,
and there was another one with the Philippines aircraft and
a Chinese helicopter just a couple of days ago. The
US tested an intercontinental ballistic missile into the Pacific this week,
reciprocating a Chinese test last year. Things are not getting
(09:33):
any better than the Endo Pacific in terms of the tensions.
I think it's imperatives that New Zealand continue to uphold
dialogue and Winston Peters is on his way to China
in the next ten days or so and where we
will meet with his counterpart one year. I think it's
really really important that he sits down in that they
have a fallen, frank and productive discussion on all of
all these matters. Because when you add and also what's
(09:55):
been happening with New Zealand's position on the Clock Islands,
I think this be watched in Beijing and perhaps New
Zealand's decided to come out with a more aggressive posturing
towards China this year. Perhaps it's to make the case
more for greater defense spending. Remember we're still waiting on
the defense Capability Plan that's coming out in the coming months,
(10:15):
and defense spending is going to go up to probably
close to two percent of GDP.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
What an excellent answer, Jeffrey. I have to say, you
just answered three questions that I was going to ask
you in one answer. So I thank you so much
for your time. That is Jeffrey Miller, foreign policy expert,
knows what he's talking about. But yes, Winston's going to China.
He's got to talk about the Pacific, not just the
Cork Islands. Yes, our defense spending is low, and now
we're going to have to talk about it because the
whole world is talking about defense spending. Interesting days. Though
(10:44):
I'm old enough to know that I'm worried about the
end of the world a lot from time to time,
and so far it hasn't happened, and I remain hopeful.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
On the way you I believe just how much it
cost to builder house these days? Is a fellow who's
down in christ Church, has names like Blackbird, and he
monitors all this stuff and writes reports for people, and
he will tell you exactly how expensive it is now
compared to what it was four years ago. That's next.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
News and Views you trust to start your day.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's the early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof
Make Your Property Search Simple Youth Talks.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It'd be Yeah five twenty two. We've got a text
from christ says Andrew with respect to the Kumars. What
I'd like to know is how the parents and the
sun have managed to live all these years. Where's the
money come from for all the essentials food, housing, clothing, power, transport?
Did they get some kind of welfare assistance? Chris applauds
the decision to send in the parents' home. Yet twenty
four years the Kumas were here. They must have got
phone contracts, they must have paid tax, maybe they got loans,
(11:41):
maybe they went to the doctor. There were so many
times when they interacted with the state and someone might
have gone, hold on, are you legal? But nobody did
for twenty four years. Yeah, five twenty two right the
twenty seven actions, So No. Five twenty two, five twenty two.
The new qv Cost Builder study shows that there has
been a huge increase to building costs over the past
(12:01):
four years. The study looked at the comparative cost of
a standard one hundred and fifty meter square home over
six main centers. The average increase was described as staggering.
The number is forty four percent, four percent more expensive
than four years ago. Biggest increases part of the north
Tonedin and Wellington. Mike Blackburn of Blackburn Management as a
(12:21):
construction analyst and joins me, Now, how are Mike.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
Good morning, Andrew, how are you?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I'm good. I remember the great JIB crisis during the
COVID and of course at supply chain crisis, but then
I thought we got over that, So where are all
these costs coming from?
Speaker 9 (12:36):
Well, look, Andrew, you are ed absolutely correct. So because
this report does cover that four year period back to
twenty twenty one, the most of those increases would have
occurred during that twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two period. Look,
the really, really good news is is that for the
last twelve months, the increase and I measure this on
(13:00):
a cost per square meter basis, the increase across average
across all of New Zealand is only three percent, So
the bulk of those increases occurred during that period. Now,
also bear in mind is that during that twenty twenty
one and twenty twenty two period we actually went through
the biggest building construction boom that New Zealand has ever seen.
(13:24):
And of course, from twenty twenty two through to twenty
twenty four, building consent numbers have fallen away quite significantly.
And of course the feature of the construction industry is
that as the market gets quieter, builders, merchants and builders
and developers become a lot more competitive. So we certainly
had seen a significant slow down in the increase in
(13:48):
the cost of building over this last two year period.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, but it's still forty four percent more expensive than
it was four or five six years ago. Someone has
to hold that cost now. Just looking at the products
we import a lot of should we do that less?
Should we be making more?
Speaker 9 (14:04):
Well, look, look, a large percentage of building materials are
manufactured here in New Zealand, or at least from raw materials.
We sort of see a lot of all the aluminium
windows are sort of assembled here in New Zealand. Obviously,
timber framing, a lot of that sort of stuff. One
of the things that the proposed new government legislation is
(14:27):
looking at doing is looking at making it easier to
bring alternative products into New Zealand so that we're not
sort of limited to just the handful of products that
are currently coming in, and of course all of these
things will contribute to making it easier, simpler and cheaper
to build.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
All right, Mike, I thank you Mike Blackburn. He's a
management consultant business advisor, works across business companies and developers
and professionals. And each month Mike produces a variety of
detailed reports and analysis of all sorts of building consent activity.
So you can google him and you can find and
then you can read his thoughts anytime you like. It
is five twenty six.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's News Talks FB, the early edition full show podcast
on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZIB.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Newstalks it B can we get Parliment back to work?
Just saying at a time when the Prime Minister is
urging us to work, work, work, work, work for growth, growth, growth, growth, growth,
Parliament's playing around with all sorts of unproductive publicity stunts.
So we had Winston. He's still banging on two days
later about using Altai Rah in the House. Ten minutes
debating time was spent on the topic yesterday. There's no
(15:31):
bill on the floor asking for a name change. We
know the sorts of people who like to feel good
by saying altail raw New Zealand. But it's not a thing.
Whatever happened to free speech? By the way, Winston if
Ricardo wants to say, Artiro, just roll your eyes and
move on. No bill, no story, but a lot of
time debating, and Winston's voters, you know, are lapping it up. Look,
(15:54):
I'm glad you're entertained. Meanwhile, the Treaty Principles Bill continues
to frustrate. Yesterday we had Jenny Shipley and Chrisphinnisson turning
up to rail against the law and they really did
rail against it too. Earlier Hekia Parata had a crack.
It is quite amazing to see the parade of National
Party grongdes who have been so keen to come out
against the bill, which shows that the bill is not
(16:16):
part of the National Party DNA. It never has been.
And we know this because we know the bill's not
going through. Asked the Prime Minister. It is a plaything
of act and it's eight percent support and no disrespect
to those people. I know you care deeply about the
general idea, but frankly the bill is a dog badly
written and you don't have any coalition partner supporting it.
(16:39):
It is sucking up vayable time and energy and money.
It's doing nothing for our productivity or our economy. And
that is the number one thing right now. It's not
going to happen. And yet the fast rumbles on. Glad, Glad,
you're entertained, dicads. Sorry that was a dramatic pause, and
Kenzie hit the play me some music, Kenzing, play me
(17:02):
some Lab. It's Electric Avenue this weekend in Christi. It's
this is the biggest festival in the Southern Hemisphere and
all sorts of people are playing. Unbelievably, the Prodigy are playing.
I saw the Prodigy years ago at a big day
out in of course the fire started. Lead singer Keith
Flint has since passed, but they've managed to find another
wind in their back. And here is a New Zealand band,
(17:22):
Lab who's going to be playing at the gig as well.
It's going to be a big one. Have fune some
Hagley all right, we got news in just a few
hours time and going to tell you about an exploding
e scooter and later, of course child poverty. This is
early edition imtre Dickens and this is Newstalk Zipby.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your
Property Search simple used talk Zibby.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
You probably know the.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Song as a Empire of the Sun, and they're playing
at Electric Avenue in christ Church. I asked Kenzick, my producer,
how many people go into this thing? Thirty twenty thousand?
She said, seventy seventy thousand people. This is a big
(18:26):
gig and it's happening in Hagley Park this weekend. I
was listening to the news just now and I heard
them talking about the oriental fruit fly, and I thought
to myself, how amazing that New Zealand public servants can
find an oriental fruit fly somewhere in the suburb, a
little week tiny fruit fly, and yet they couldn't find
the overstained kumars for over twenty four years. Another story
that's taking my eye is a charging battery has burst
(18:49):
into flames, destroying a home and killing two two cats.
Two cats died in the conflagration. It was a battery
that was part of an electric motorcycle. It was left
charging the owner was having a shower, and the owner
was listening to music, probably some Empire of the Sun,
and by the time, the neighbors actually knocked the way
into the house and said, make your house is on fire.
The house was too far gone, the cat's days were numbered,
(19:12):
and the owners have been left with nothing. And it
happens this sort of explosion not often, but enough. A
friend of mine had a scooter explode in her garage
because she overcharged it. The garage was a total write off.
It took a year to fix and to get rid
of the smell. Now my family uses electric scooters and
electric bikes to commute. I know we're those sorts of people.
(19:33):
We are concerned enough that we actually built a lean
to outside and we put some power in and we
make sure all the charging happens outside the house, and
all the charging happens while we're around with timers on
our watches, just to make sure that it doesn't blow up.
I was just saying that that's just a tip for
young players and texts that have come through in ninety
two ninety two. I've got to say this, Karen, thank you.
(19:53):
The treaty has had no influence on my reality at
all and never will. And Karen also says, be interesting
to see how much law are being paid to show
up to the Treaty Principal's Bill Select Committee. It is
another cravy train, Yes it is, and isn't that ironic?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Andrew Dickens run the country?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
We go Callen Procter? Is it otago?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Callum morning? Andrew So Environment Southland and wetland losses and
the High Court?
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Look.
Speaker 11 (20:19):
This was a ruling that High Court issued earlier this
week saying that Environments Southend failed to act against huge
wetland losses. Excuse me, the High Court saying that the
council failed to monitor and take action to protect wetlands
with massive amounts loss due to conversion to pasture. The
Environmental Law Initiatives described this as a landmark win for itself,
(20:42):
but says it's shocked at the lack of action. Between
ninety six and twenty eighteen, half of New Zealand's wetland
losses occurred in Southend. Environment south and now says that
they've provided clarification for its obligations and the issues are
addressed in its new Water and Land Plan.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Belts to that in the country. Dot co dot had
how's dinedin's weather.
Speaker 11 (21:02):
Chance for shower or two today high of twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Claire Sherwerd joins me now from Christier Telly Claire.
Speaker 12 (21:10):
About Electric Avenue. Can you hear me the Andrew we.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Can now My question for you, are you going to
Electric Avenue, because it sounds like the whole city is.
Speaker 12 (21:18):
I feel like I'm the only one who's not going
everyone else's. I think I've got all of the reporters
heading there, all of my sisters, all of my friends,
They're all off. They'll be joining about seventy thousand. As
you said at Hagley Avenue. This is the first year
that it runs across two days as well, which is
a pretty big deal. There has been unprecedented demand this year,
so we know that not only did it sell out
(21:39):
back in September, there's also a wait list of about
twenty thousand people and on any Facebook page you've got
tickets going for a premium now. The festival director, Callum Mitchell,
says the response was better than he even imagined. He
said the move to a two day event and the
range of international acts has been what's helped create a
lot of interest. He's expecting an emotional performance by UK
(21:59):
rock band and headline is The Prodigy, as the last
time they performed before the band member Keith Flint passed away,
was right here in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
So that's a nice touch exactly. That's why I was
surprised that they were coming, because Keith was a piece
of work. Keith was he was the original fire star. Hey,
how's the weather for the weekend for Electric Avenue.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Well, today's not looking as good. Could be some heavy
and thundery showers this morning, westerlies turning southerly, clearing and
a high of eighteen, but things to improve tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Maxtel joined us from Wellington Helmx Good morning. A one
punch killer sentence to prison.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Yeah, a very sad case. Twenty one year old Luke
Smith was killed in an unprovoked attack at the end
of a night out on Courtney Place in October. He
and his family had only eight months earlier emigrated to
New Zealand from South Africa seeking a better life. Yesterday afternoon,
twenty nine year old Sally was sentenced at the High
(22:55):
Court in Wellington more than two years about two years
behind bars the man's laughter. He had apparently punched Smith
for no apparent reason. Smith's family were in court yesterday,
his father telling the court that the day Sally killed Luke,
he had killed them as well, the parents. The father
has since set up a foundation in his son's name. Yeah,
(23:18):
absolute tragedy.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
All right, how'd your weather party?
Speaker 10 (23:22):
Cloudy today with occasional showers getting up into the mid twenties.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Have a good weekend, Max and Neva leti man who
joins me from Aukland.
Speaker 13 (23:28):
Hello, mourning.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
So level crossings in Auckland, they are pain and the proverbial.
Now the government, the good line, wants.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
To get rid of them.
Speaker 13 (23:36):
Yes, well, look what's happening now is that it's planning
to spend up to two hundred million dollars removing level
crossings here in Auckland. So Chris Bishop, the Transport minister,
he's expected to announce the investment today, Andrew and that
would see like seven level crossings this hasn't taken in
and Glen Ennis removed. Now they'll be replaced by these
new road bridges and station excess bridges. So that work
(23:59):
is expected to be completed around the time the City
rail Link opens next year. Bishop says, Look, this should
be quite good because people can experience the CRL's full
benefits and these removals will allow the frequent trains to
travel more along those lines.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
But this thing, I mean, I support this thing. It's
going to be a revolution. We're gonna love it for
the next twenty or thirty years. But it keeps on
getting more expensive every day.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I know.
Speaker 13 (24:20):
And what months?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know?
Speaker 13 (24:22):
Like that's why we haven't actually said, you know, it's
going to open. It will open, but when? What months? When?
But that funding is subject to approval by the NZTA board.
That's going to happen in April.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Okay, Orkin's with it today.
Speaker 13 (24:32):
Cloudy showers mainly those showers mainly this afternoon here in Auckland.
Today's hight twenty five.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And I thank you so much, Graham Rights Andrew. Two
days ago two houses burnt to Milldale in one fire
cause electric car charging. Health and Safety should ban them, really,
they're a major hazard. Or maybe they should just invent
a battery that doesn't actually blow up. And Joan writes
there are a lot of Indians like the Kumar overstairs,
and yes there are. And it's about time the immigration
department got on top of the thing. Sixteen minutes to six,
(25:01):
We're off to Europe in a moment with Vincent McAvennie
as the war of words continues between President Trump and
President Zelenski and before six the dire strait is the
dire state of child poverty in this country. And we'll
go to the front line and just hear just how
bad it is. Give for a place to retire in Aukland,
You'll be hard pressed to find a nicer spot than
(25:21):
some Hellias. It's got beautiful beaches and great cafes. I
know this my mother in law retired there. He had
a lovely time. So this is where the Hellia comes in.
The Helia is by Oceania. The Hellia is a modern,
beautiful boutique retirement residence with a welcoming community and fabulous stuff.
Everything at the Helia is designed with you in mind,
from the premium amenities to the weekly wellness clinics and
(25:44):
the inclusive community activities. They have a team to look
after the maintenance side of things, so you could enjoy
doing the things you want to do, but if you
want to give a helping hand you can. Now this
is retirement living that you've been dreaming of in a
wonderful location. A one bedroom apartment starts at nine hundred
and fifty grand two beardroom apartments start from one million,
four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, so it is within reach.
(26:08):
To learn more and to book your visit, go to
their website. It is the Hillia dot co dot in z.
That's all in one word THG H E L I
E R the Hillier dot Co dot.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Inzid International correspondence with insid Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It is thirteen to six. Vincent Mecavini joins me from Europe. Hello, Vincent, Hi,
good morning. So what's the reaction to the war of
words between Presidents Zelensky and Trump.
Speaker 14 (26:39):
Well, a huge reaction in what has been a world
wind week of diplomacy where Europe's sort of foundation belief
in the Transatlantic Alliance has really been shaken. So President
Trump numerous times now coming out and criticizing President Zelenski,
effectively trumpeting Kremlin propaganda lines, calling him a dictator, questioning
(26:59):
why he hasn't done elections, which is fully legal within
the Ukrainian martial law, saying that he's not very popular
when he does still enjoy a decent amount of popularity,
and saying Russia has all the cards sounding very sympathetic
to Vladimir Putin, and we know that. You know, Donald
Trump is trying to get as Zelenski to sign a
deal for rare earth minerals that are in Ukraine, which
(27:23):
could be something that you know, is a good card
for Ukraine to play. But simply Donald Trump wants those
minerals without any kind of security deal or backing. So
President Zelenski is in a very difficult position. But many
European leaders, including Sakir Starmer, the UK Prime Minister, and
German Charles the Schultz coming to his aid and saying
this is completely wrong. This is a lie.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yes, but it shows you that if you decide to
take on President Trump in a war of words, he
doesn't step back. In fact, he always wants the last
word and he's quite heavy to ramp it all up.
So well, welcome to the new reality. Okay, Spain's next
football boss, Luis Ruby Alie Hairs been fined. He got
guilty of some stuff and not guilty of other.
Speaker 14 (28:06):
Yeah, that's right. You might remember the Woman's World Cup
final down in sidneya you guys in twenty twenty three,
where Spain's team won and the Federation Football Federation boss
Luise ruby Alis just sort of grabbed one of the
players and kissed her and she seemed quite stunned by
it and said afterwards that it made her uncomfortable. Well,
(28:27):
he has been found guilty of sexual assault for kissing
at Jenny Hormoso without her consents, and he's been ordered
to pay a fine of over ten thousand euros by
Spain's High Course. And this created, of course a lot
of conversation at the time about what behaviors are acceptable
and not and it's sort of spawned a bit of
(28:47):
a me too movement in Spain in the subsequent years.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, it was a good thing
that had happened that you can see the final of course,
he's lost his career, but you know, asked for a
ysplus and I thank you so much. Have a great
week in Vincent Mecavini, Europe. The time is now ten
to six seconds. There has been no change to child
poverty in the last year. Data released yesterday by Stat's
New Zealand shows that seventeen point seven percent of all
(29:12):
children are in poverty and that is based on household
income after housing costs have been paid. So save the
Children in New Zealand's advocacy and research director as Jackie South,
who joins me.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
Now, hello, Jackie Childer Andrew.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Did you have any confidence that maybe the figures will
be better or were you expecting this?
Speaker 15 (29:32):
We were expecting this. We've we are coming off the
back of a period of very high living costs, high inflation.
We're also seeing that there's a lot of financial strife
out there and people.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Have lost their jobs.
Speaker 15 (29:44):
People are really feeling the cost of living, and we
know that we're in a recession.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
So we didn't expect a rosy picture.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Are you expecting it to give rosier or do you
think this will continue on in the medium term.
Speaker 15 (29:58):
Well, Unlessie makes significant change to the way that people
can access housing and that make it more affordable, whether
renting or owning a home, and also lift the lowest
incomes of the lowest income families, particularly for soule parent families,
this is not going to significantly change.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So seventeen point seven percent of all children are in
poverty based on household income after housing costs have been
taken out of the equation. So does that show that
the housing costs are the real issue in this country?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
Absolutely?
Speaker 15 (30:26):
We can see that the families on the lost incomes
to spending more than forty percent of their income on housing,
and that compares to twenty percent as a national average.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
And so quite simply, it's not affordable.
Speaker 15 (30:40):
It doesn't leave enough money to pay for the other
necessities in life, such as the energy costs, food costs,
to be able to service your car and make sure
you've got a decent car, money to get you where
you need to go.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
So look, I had an interview earlier this morning where
I was talking to a guy about the cost of building,
and it's gone up forty four percent over the last
four years. Housing's not getting any more affordable. We know
this is the problem. We have been trying to fix
it for an age. So do you have any great
ideas about how the government could tackle child poverty, because
so far, with all the will in the world, it
hasn't worked well.
Speaker 15 (31:12):
I think we've seen some changes in the way we
build houses and the sort of houses we need. You know,
for a long type of decades we were building very
big homes, multi bedroom, very expensive, and we've seen that
people have gone towards and more lest the kits at home,
and they've really improved in quality, they're more compact, they're
cheaper to build, and you know, that's a potential way
(31:33):
of solving our issues as looking at how can we
build smaller, better, good quality homes but are definitely more affordable.
And the other thing is we need to look at,
you know, the lowest incomes and that's for our sole
parent families. They're struggling on forty six thousand per annum
disposable income and that's absolutely shockingly low by any measure
(31:53):
for a family to be trying to live on in
this day and age. Amongst the costs that we face
for base living.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Jackie, you faced and thank you for all the work
you do. Jackie is Save the Children, New Zealand's advocacy
and research director. And this is News Talks. Here'd be
It's seven to six and MICA's next.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
The News you Need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
your Property Search Simple.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
News Talks.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It be so earlier this morning. I compared the ability
of the state to find an oriental fruit fly in
a suburb compared to their ability to find an overstayer
who's been here for twenty four years, and that's, of
course the Kumar case. Sean writes to me. More, the
reason they can find a fruit flyer is because they
set a trap. If traps were set to find overstayers,
they'd likely find hundreds. And fair enough, you've got to say,
(32:40):
twenty four years. How on earth did they do it? Uh,
my costume joins me, Now, good morning.
Speaker 16 (32:45):
The reason they did it. So we talked about that
earlier on and people were under the impression that departments
sheer information, which of course they don't.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
I don't.
Speaker 16 (32:53):
So when you pay your tax, if you set up
your own company, you come to the country, you set
up your own company, you pay your tax, the ID
receives your tax. I wonder if you're an overstay, you
don't think about that.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's something to think about.
Speaker 16 (33:04):
Well, that's well, how many reports over the years, because
you've been around long enough, how many reports over the
years that have gone into the public service have they done?
Speaker 10 (33:11):
Going?
Speaker 16 (33:11):
There's not enough sharing of information and so it's the
same problem.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
With the computer systems are atrocious. Examine the Health Department,
the ancient the platforms that they're on ancient. It's going
to cost billions. Effects but that's just yet another problem.
I like your haircuts well, because you've got rid of
the summer mop.
Speaker 16 (33:28):
No, no, last time. I don't want to name names,
and I won't, but my hairdresser was away, so the
sub came in. The sub came in, and he's done
it before, so I wasn't a sub on one off,
but he done it for any Unfortunately, at the end
of it, he went, actually, I'm really pleased with that,
not interested in what you think, and so you're there
to grow out. And so what happened was because I'm
doing it back to the mast. That was three weeks growth.
(33:50):
Three weeks ago. Yeah, so three weeks so Greg was back,
and so yesterday we.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Got back to you. I thought, you're getting rid of
the summer mop. And then I thought, now has he
got rid of the crocs?
Speaker 16 (34:00):
How much I hate to think one eighty eight and
people ridicule me for that, but look at it.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I gotta go.
Speaker 16 (34:06):
How good do I look?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
You know?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Beautiful? Rudimentel Son comes up there playing Electric Avenue. I'm
Andrew Dickens. Thank you, Kensey. See you next week.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live
to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
Popular Podcasts
Boysober
Have you ever wondered what life might be like if you stopped worrying about being wanted, and focused on understanding what you actually want? That was the question Hope Woodard asked herself after a string of situationships inspired her to take a break from sex and dating. She went "boysober," a personal concept that sparked a global movement among women looking to prioritize themselves over men. Now, Hope is looking to expand the ways we explore our relationship to relationships. Taking a bold, unfiltered look into modern love, romance, and self-discovery, Boysober will dive into messy stories about dating, sex, love, friendship, and breaking generational patterns—all with humor, vulnerability, and a fresh perspective.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com