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July 23, 2025 33 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast 2025 Thursday 24th of July, the Government’s told Sport NZ to scrap its transgender guidelines, Save Women's Sport Australasia NZ Spokeswoman Ro Edge, tells Ryan she's happy with the news. 

The Government's released a report on homelessness, Rotorua Mayor Tania Tapsell shares her thoughts. 
DOC summer booking have brought $13 million, President of federated mountain clubs, Megan Dimozantos tells Ryan why we've seen such a surge in domestic travellers. 

Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Vincent McAviney has the latest reaction to Ozzy Osbourne's death and the situation in Gaza. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes warm
and try this winter news Talk said, be good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to Thursday, just gone six minutes after five. Coming
up on the show this morning, we'll get to the
bottom of the transgender guidelines in sport. Is this all
a storm and a tea cupnos before six? Vincent mcavnie
out of the UK for us this morning? Who's hiking
our great walks? You might be surprised to see the numbers.
We have a new report on homelessness which will run
you through this morning. And you know that ad campaign

(00:34):
everyone must go. The government says it's been a stonking success.
We'll give you those numbers this morning too.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
The agenda.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
It is Thursday, the twenty fourth of July. More than
one hundred AID agencies saying that a mass starvation event
is happening in Gaza humas reckons ten of diet of nutrition.
Just in the last twenty four.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Hours, I saw children again walking through the streets with
empty looking for food, children walking with antea bottles looking
for water, children listless, children visibly sen We were at
a tipping point in Gaza's I've never seen anything like
this in my whole career of over twenty years working

(01:17):
in this section.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
The UN Security Council is going to hold an urgent meeting,
so that'll solve things, won't it. Meanwhile, Donald Trump has
a trade deal with Japan. They just saying the largest
trade deal in history, I think maybe the largest deal
of history with Japan.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
And that was done with Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
They had their top people here and we worked.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
On it long and haired and it's a great deal
for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So the interesting part about this is Japanese vehicles their
tariffs will be cut from twenty five or actually twenty
seven point five to down to fifteen percent, so they're
very happy. Companies like nis and and Zeki very happy today.
Senden thing underway. For Idaho killer Brian Coburger, who stared
four university students to death in twenty twenty two, the

(02:02):
courtroom has been listening to emotional victim impact statements. This
one of the surviving roommates have a listen because.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Of him, for it beautiful, genuine, compassionate for.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
You, pall.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
We're taken from.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
This world for no reason.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
He didn't just take their leaves he took the weight
that carried it into every room. He took away who
they were becoming in the futures they were going to have.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
He keeps his life. By the way, he avoided the
death penalty because he pleaded guilty earlier this month and
never given a motive. By the way, no idea why
he did that. Tributes have been flowing in for rock
legend Ozzie Osborne. He died yesterday at the age of

(02:56):
seventy six. Alton John says he was quote one of
the funniest people I've ever met. While rolling stones. Guitarist
Ronnie wood his final concert at Villa Park was described
as a glorious way to say goodbye.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Brian Bridge on early edition with an ex bol insulation
keeping Kili homes warm and try this winter news talks'b.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Finton mcaviniel have more reaction to that, by the way,
after a news at five point thirty this morning. So
a couple of things to run you through. I'll just
start with this International Court of Justice in the Hague
coming out with a ruling overnight. So what happened was
there was a group of students, young people from Vanuatu.
One of the Pacific Islands who decided they take a

(03:43):
case all the way through their government, all the way
to the International Court of Justice in the Hague about
climate change, and the International Court of Justice will wait
for it. You can probably imagine a landmark decision from them.
They have cleared the way for countries to do each
other over climate change. So I presumably a Pacific island

(04:05):
could sue India or China for its coal fired power
production that heats the planet. So that's that's they have
given the all clear. Yep, you can start suing the
hell out of each other. Lawyer up, is what they've said.
But here's the problem. How do you prove how do
you untangle who calls which part of climate change? Now

(04:27):
the ruling non binding could have wide ranging consequences. Well,
it's non binding, so let's settle down for a second.
It's non binding. And also, how would you ever prove
because you know, this is just off the cuff here,
but I think we feed something like forty million people
with our produce every year, you know, with our meat,

(04:49):
with our dairy. Yet we're a country of five million.
Do we take on you know, with methane emissions? Do
we take on all of that responsibility. What about the
forty million people who are eating our food? Are they
going to shoulder They're part of that burden. Where do
you stop? How do you prove this?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
So?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't know. I suppose they've got to decide something
in practice. How will that actually work? Eleven after five,
news Talks said, be, we've got some new transgender well
a cancelation of some transgender guidelines in school, which will
interest you. We'll get to that a little later, but
next we'll look at these homelessness numbers with Chinese tapsle ondor.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and x Fole insulation keeping Kiwi
Holmes warm and dry. This winter news Talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
It is thirteen minutes after five. Everyone Must Go was
the campaign that we launched at the Aussies. Unfortunately a
lot of New Zealanders looked at the ad and left
in winter Australia. But in terms of tourism, the government
reckons it's been a stonking success. Their press release on
this this morning take that tourism campaigner hit with Aussies
because they caught some flat fruit, so they reckon they

(05:58):
forecast they would get an additional six thousand, seven hundred
and fifty tourists to the country, and this is over
autumn ended up significantly exceeding expectations. Tourism New Zealand stats,
according to Louise Upston, say that they got nine hundred
and eighty one visitors, smashing the initial forecast eight hundred deals.

(06:20):
Apparently this is how they did it. You get the
tourism operators to offer deals, so they had eight hundred
deals from four hundred and fifty operators, included accommodation, transport,
all that kind of stuff. How much did it cost us?
Half a million dollars and an additional three hundred thousand dollars.
But if those numbers are to be believed and you
can attribute them to the campaign, then you'd have to

(06:41):
say that it has been successful. Quarter past five Brian.
Finally we got some numbers on homelessness and not that
pretty Nearly five thousand kiwis a living across the country. Now,
we looked at the census data that's the most recent
and solidly reliable, a thirty seven percent jump between twenty

(07:01):
eighteen and twenty twenty three. Auckland has seen aspite Christ
Church up Taranaki up a two hundred and fifty fifty
percent in just six months. One of the regions facing
homelessness is Rota do Atania Tapsle's the mayor with me now,
Hi Tanya, good morning, Good to have you on the show.
Do you think it's going up in your area?

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Well, we've actually had targeted intervention to get it down,
but what we have seen is probably there's a lot
of transient people across the country, so you know, as
emergency house, your motiles, clothes, or they're not able to
find accommodation, they're starting to go to other regions. And
it's been interesting because we've recently had the local government
conference where I spoke with other mayors who were saying, hey,

(07:45):
we're getting your homeless or hey, they're coming from Auckland again.
So I think it's good that the government's looking at
a national approach because you know what blew my mind.
At present, over five hundred and fifty million dollars it's
spent annually on this half.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
A billion we're spending on homelessness agencies, multiple agencies, transitional housing,
housing first rapid rehousing, other support services. Do you think
more because this will inevitably be the call Tanya, we
need more money for more wrap around services. Is that
going to solve it?

Speaker 6 (08:19):
No, I don't. And actually what I really acknowledge Minister
Bishop and also Minister Pawtucker on is when I looked
at their latest report that's come out, they're really focusing
on funding what works, so not only about better utilizing
existing programs quote, but also funding what works. And this
is actually really smart because we've seen this significant waste

(08:41):
of money on emergency housing motiles where the motalitias are
the only ones succeeding. They're getting really rich millions of
dollars a year and actually it's bad for the communities
and it's not safe for those in the homes. So
definitely the housing Growth program is working. That's why we've
seen a significant reduction in it. To do it, we
almost finished all of our emergency house emotiles by the way.

Speaker 7 (09:03):
That's great.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
But what we really need to do, and what the
government has been pretty good at eiven on board, is
focusing on how do we stop this like for good.
It's not only about addressing the urgent issue, but how
do we go Hey, there's a real problem in our country.
How do we stop people being at risk of homeless
and when they do come up on the systems, how

(09:24):
do we assist them appropriately?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Tony, you said that at the start of this interview
about people coming between Who are these people that go
between regions?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
So it was quite interesting. In the report as well,
they looked at the demographic breakdowns of those who are
living without shelter, and the median age was actually fifty
five years and often the biggest reason was, and I
think it was around about sety percent off the top
of my head, was people who have had a relationship
breakdown or a breakup, And honestly, that's what I was

(09:57):
hearing from the people in the motowns as well. So
you know, people are living tough, they're going week to
week and sometimes there is a genuine need for transitional housing.
But what I acknowledge is that there's a clear message
that we will end the large scale use of motels
for emergency house.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, that's definitely on the way out, Tony. Thank you, Tonya.
Tap swort or through a mere time is eighteen minutes
after five. There is interesting stuff in this report, including
it talks about insurance. So you've got private landlords who
are pulling out of providing community housing and community housing
providers pulling out of providing that help because they can't

(10:36):
get insurance. Why because the people who are needing the
help increasingly on meth anti social behavior, severe mental health,
and so insurance companies up the premiums because if you
put someone like that in the house, the chances of
being destroyed are actually quite big. Just gone nineteen after
five news talks there b and we'll talk about the

(10:57):
dock huts. Who's staying in our dock huts on our
Great Walks. Numbers might surprise you.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's next get ahead of the headlines on early edition
with Ryan Bridge and ex Fole Insulation, keeping Kiwi, Holmes
warm and Drey this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
They'd be twenty one after five. Good news for our
dock sites this morning. More than six hundred thousand beds
were being booked at dock huts, campsites and Great Walks
over the summer, bringing in more than thirteen million bucks.
Doc says sixty percent of those walk the tracks were
domestic travelers. That's up twelve percent on the summer before.
Meghan demes Aantos as president of the Federated Mountain Clubs

(11:34):
joining me this morning. Hi Meghan, sure to Ryan. Good
to have you on the show. So is this just
because we've got more kiwis doing it or fewer, you know,
foreign tourists here. What's the situation?

Speaker 8 (11:45):
Well, I think you may have also noticed that doc
said that they were back to ninety three percent of
their pre COVID level. So I don't think it's because
there's there's less international tourists here that I guess. We
live in such a beautiful so why not get out
in it? But yeah, I guess there's probably a couple

(12:06):
of reasons. And I think the ease of getting information
to start out in the great outdoors is relatively easy.
You know, there's relatively low barriers to entry, and I
think I think that's that's one of the main reasons
why we're seeing more and more people pick it up.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, it's interesting. This report says that fifty percent of
foreigners who come here ahead to a national park, which
is great, and also that the tourism on public conservation
land is actually worth three and a half billion dollars
a year.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
I know, wouldn't it be great to see more A
figure more commensurate to that come through in the budget
for doc as well.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Well.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I was going to ask you do you think we're
charging enough for the dock huts, the nightly stay. I mean,
we would probably need to subsidize people who couldn't afford it.
But do you think if they're always full or they're full,
do we charge more so that we can fix the tracks?

Speaker 8 (13:03):
Yeah. Look, it's a it's an interesting debate to have,
and and like you mentioned, it's really important that we
don't that we don't price people out of their their
own backyard. I think that that probably a question that
that should also be asked is whether potentially dock providing

(13:25):
an opportunity that's a little bit too elaborate as well.
You know, I think that toning down their ever standards
would be the equivalent to to charging more and people
would still have a great experience.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
What suit, What do you mean get rid of the
toilet paper?

Speaker 8 (13:41):
No, not really, I mean I mean I think things
like you know, if you if you look at the
cost of when of of of the build of great
wall cuts and tracks, and they have really hyper kilometer
cost compared to other types of tracks. But also things
like provide gas and hearts, which costs a lot of

(14:03):
money because you have to fly in providing split firewood.
You know, potentially they could look at providing rounds that
people split on site themselves, which is all part of
the experience has been in the back country. So I
think that there's a few ways that the department could
avoid having to keep increasing crisis.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Interesting, Meghan, that's really I hadn't thought of that before.
But there is always cut firewood, isn't there, And often
if it's a busy hout, there's gas. That is Meghan
Demos Aantos, the president of Federated Mountain Clubs, talking about
those numbers of dock cuts. How would you feel turning
up and having to cut your own firewood? I mean
you couldn't do it in some conditions, obviously, nine the

(14:44):
number to text just gone twenty five after five. Will
get to a bit more detail on those homeless figures
in a second, and also we'll figure out what's going
on with Trump and trade in Japan.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
The early edition full the show podcast I Am Radio
How It by News.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Talks IVB News TALKSB twenty seven minutes after five. You've
got a text in which is I'm going to speak
to you about homelessness, but this is the kind of
text that I was wanting to address. So Ryan, the
government and Christopher Luxen are proud of the way that
they're dealing with homelessness. Are you kidding me? He's a
frickin idiot, says this Texter. It's harder to get and

(15:24):
keep a benefit, harder to get social housing, and abolishing
emergency housing in motels. I wonder what they have to
be proud of. Well, there is a new political battlefront
opening up on homelessness. Nobody wants to see streets dotted
with tents like they do in San Francisco and downtown LA.
So we've got this report to Tama Paultucker doesn't nail

(15:44):
the problem. There are basically more people living rough, but
we can't say for sure how many more, and even
if we could, how statistically significant the change might be.
But because we had census data, we know it got
way worse under labor, up thirty seven percent from twenty
eighteen to twenty twenty three. The councils are reporting what
your economists might call high frequency data that things are

(16:06):
getting worse. So stuff like phone calls and reports are concerned.
They're getting from the public the real question, which is
the basis of what the opposition's upset about. Did the
government's crack down on emergency housing cause a wave of homelessness,
you know, homeless refugees camping out on the streets as
a result. That's the question. And here's the numbers. The

(16:26):
number of households living in emergency motels is down by
seventy five percent. Eighty five percent, or at least eighty
percent of them went on to some form of housing.
So that's great. They managed to smash through the list
and get most people housed. That's a success, surely. And
this is where Labour's claim gets a bit murky. Declines

(16:47):
so people applying for the emergency housing declients are on
the increase, but mostly rejected because their client either wasn't
eligible or could be helped in another way. Increase in
homelessness doesn't necessarily mean the emergency accommodation changes were a disaster.
In fact, the numbers would, at least on the face

(17:08):
of them, appear to show it's been wildly successful at
getting people out of motels and into actual homes, including
by the way, two thousand children.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Ryan Bridge twenty nine minutes.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
After five, News Talk SEBB get to Vincent mcavnie out
of the UK after news our reporters around the country.
News Talk SEBB.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Ryan Bridge and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kili Holmes warm
and dry. This winter News Talk set by.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
The Pumpey.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Morning.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
It is tw twenty four away from six. You're on
Newstalk sev B. I've got some numbers for you on renting.
It's slightly related to the homeless topic we've done for
the last half hour, but this is on renting, so
and it's good. It's good results. In fact, the first
sort of good news if you're a renter. Potentially since

(18:20):
as far back as two thousand and nine, so this
is a fall in the amount, well the increase in rents.
So New Zealand rental markets started to swing in favor
of tenants. This is according to a core Logic Catality
report this morning. Obviously your contributors are easing migration, so
you've got few people coming in here, You've got an
increase in supply of the stock and so as a result,

(18:42):
takes the heat out of the rents. So your national
median rent in the three months to May was down
zero point three percent from last year. Sure it's not massive,
but it is the first time that has decreased since
two thousand and nine. Auckland Meeting weekly rent dropped two
percent to four percent over the past year to six

(19:03):
hundred and fifty bucks. Wellington City. Well, no surprise there
a decline of point eight down to six hundred and
two dollars total. On that christ Church. You're also softer.
It is twenty two away from six Bryan, just go
to our reporters around the country, Colums and nenedanculum longest
running longitudinal study, the Dnedian Study. We like to talk
about it and it's set to help international policies now, Yeah,

(19:27):
it is.

Speaker 9 (19:27):
This is the Denedan Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study, Ryan,
it's collaborating with the OECD now to help policymakers around
the world understand how early life experiences shape whether we
thrive or struggle in the future. The Denedan Study follows
the lives of more than a thousand babies born into
need in between nineteen seventy two and seventy three. The

(19:49):
study highlights the importance of using birth cohort data to
improve social policy discussions globally, and so researchers say this
study will now help inform those type for social policies.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Around the world. All Right, how's your weather.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
It's another freezer? Fine, but morning frosts this morning nor
the least developing the heights today thirteen.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
All right, thank you Claires in christ this morning, Claire,
good morning. Now you've got a new poll, have you
the mayors? Yes? So.

Speaker 10 (20:16):
The Taxpayer's Union Curier poll has revealed that Phil Major
has surged nineteen points in popularity this quarter. That makes
him the most popular mayor when it comes to big
city mayors. Interestingly, though, he is still quite a distance
from the best in the country. In fact, he's twenty
six on a list of fifty three from right across
the country that includes the big cities as well as

(20:37):
the small town's. Coming in at number one, though, is
another Canterbury name why Muck and Eddi's Dan Gordon. For Auckland,
Dwayne Brown's popularity has held steady at sixteen points. Wellington's
Torrey Farno's improved, but she's still minus eighteen Now. Taxpayers
Union's James Ross says Major's big swing comes in line
with his support of rates capping. He says the takeaway

(21:00):
for other mural candidates from this poll is that they
should follow christ Church's footsteps as clearly something is working.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Clearly it is how's you wear the clear?

Speaker 10 (21:09):
A bit of frost about here too clearing too fine,
northeasterlies and the high will be twelve brilliant.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Thank you Mex and Wellington Rex good morning. We've got
a guilty verdict in the Kendala murder trial.

Speaker 11 (21:19):
Yeah, this came through last night. This trial really crept
into people's consciousnesses in Wellington and indeed nationally. Julia Deloney
accused of murdering her elderly mother in her suburban home
over reported money problems. Deloney accused of stealing from the
seventy nine year old, became a little too obsessed with
crypto investments, didn't trust banks, would stash bags of cash

(21:42):
around her home, including in her freezer. A jury deciding
yesterday evening she did indeed fatally assault her mother Gregory,
and then stage the scene, moved the body, tried to
make it look like an intruder had come in. Possibly
a case of mistaken identity. An audible gasp or cry
from the packed public gallery when the verdict was read
out last night. The court has been packed all trial long.

(22:04):
Deluney herself appeared to be fighting back tears. Sentencing now
September five.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay, how's your wear? The max A cold.

Speaker 11 (22:11):
Start here as well, but mostly fine today with later.
When's thirteen the high Thank you?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Neva's in Auckland, Neva, good morning, good morning? Should I
say Neva or should I say missus Claus?

Speaker 12 (22:21):
Actually, people out there set I'd be a great missus Clause.
It would be, but I don't like children, so that's
not a good star.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Plus what do you actually do? For most of the
year you're overseeing a factory line, your slave labor.

Speaker 12 (22:35):
People thinking what are they talking about? It's an early
start for center recruitment with the old and new centers
jingling and mingling. This is happening over the next two days,
starting in Auckland today. So the event is run by
talent agencies, Scene to Believe and is going to christ
Church tomorrow apparently, so this is where people come together.
She had tips and learn new center skills. So the

(22:56):
hunt is also one for people to join the growing crew.
You need photographers, the ol missus claws. Apparently it's a
very lengthy process, so recruit it's got to start now.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I don't understand learn new Santa skills. You just sit
there but with a beard on and this day and.

Speaker 12 (23:12):
Age though, you know, like do you sit on the
sanded Nana? Do you sit on the label?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know. So you think maybe they need a
good six months for security checks the background.

Speaker 12 (23:22):
I think they do and walk and talk and pose
as well as work with the children and say, you know,
like what do kids say?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Do they still say?

Speaker 12 (23:30):
Can I have this and this and this and this?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, they give you a list presumably, but I mean
in terms of poses, you're completely covered from here to time. Yeah,
give me a smise.

Speaker 12 (23:41):
Even as a kidn't get Did you go to those
big departments stores? No?

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I didn't either.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Well, ours was Coastlin's the rhythm of the coast, and
there wasn't much rhythm. How's that? We there? Fine?

Speaker 12 (23:52):
Morning frosts and shelter places. Fifteen is a high here
today in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Brilliant. Thank you. That's Neva in Auckland and the rest
of our team around the country eighteen minutes away from
six here on news, Talk to Bible, get to Vincent
Mecavinie out of the UK next. Some reaction, strong reaction
from big British pop stars to the death of Ozzie Osbourne.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
International correspondence with ins and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business, big.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Change on the way, potentially big change on the way
for trains, athletes and sports. We'll get to ventness sick
and right now though, we're going to Vincent Mecavinie, our
UK correspondent, Vincent. A huge reaction outpouring to the death
of Ozzie Osbourne. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
About twenty four hours ago the news broke that the
legendary rocker had passed away. We're still not sure what
exactly happened, but we now understand an air ambulance was
to dispatched to his home and paramedics battled for two hours,
we understand to try to save him, but sadly he
passed away. He had had health struggles in recent years

(24:52):
following a Parkinson's diagnosis. The tributes have been pouring in
from across the music industry, from not just rock bands,
but from the life of Elton John as well members
of Rolling Stones paying tribute to him, his musical legacy
and him being just a generally funny person, many have remarked.
And so in his hometown of Birmingham, which is in

(25:13):
the Midlands, the city in the Midlands of the UK,
tributes have been laid there, lots of people gathering to
pay tribute to him, a city which he had played
indeed his farewell show less than three weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Meanwhile, the malnutrition, the mess, starvation of it's being called
now in Gaza. Is anyone in Europe seriously sanctioning Israel
over at Yeat or are they threatening to No?

Speaker 4 (25:38):
I mean there was a letter that went out yesterday
from about twenty six nations, including the UK, which said
that this must be stopped, and today one hundred international
aid organizations writing saying that not only are the people
of Gaza wasting away, but also NGO workers, doctors, humanitarians
in Gaza trying to assist themselves are now suffering little

(26:00):
food getting through in the disbursement method having been taken
away from sort of the UN to this sort of
Israel America backed so called humanitarian foundation where they're the
sort of doing instead of multiple small sites, these big
sites where we've seen these mass shooting incidents. People now
simply starving, not getting enough food and water, and the

(26:20):
doctors and nurses themselves trying to help out apparently getting
too weak to be able to do so. Something we've
heard as well from AFP, the French journalists organization. They're
saying that their reporters on the ground are sort of
two weak now to carry out their duties because there's
just simply not enough food in medicine getting in appreciate.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Your time, Vincent make of Any, a UK correspondent, just
gone twelve minutes away.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
From six Bryan Bridge, so.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
If you're just joining us this morning. The government has
told Sport New Zealand to scrap its transgender guidelines. Can
like completely scrap them. It was originally ours to review them,
now being told just stay out of it altogether. Thank
you very much. Individual sports organizations will continue to make
the call around gender and community sport. Row Edges from
Save Women's Sport joins me this morning, road, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (27:07):
Good morning Lane.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
They were only guidelines to begin with. Is this a
big deal?

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Yeah, it is because unfortunately Sport you're doing to hold
the funding leaders for sports throughout the country, and so
they all felt compelled to adopt them. You know, like,
we really welcome this decision to dump them because it
supported boys and men in the male advantage playing and
girls and women's sport, And it was an ideological policy
that while the intent I know was honorable, it was

(27:33):
obviously injectives to include males who identify as females and
women's sport couldn't be done without compromising FeNiS and safety
for our female athletes.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
This is we're talking about community sports here, right, It's
not elite sport. Is that is that not a different
kettle of fish?

Speaker 7 (27:49):
It is totally not a different kill of fish. Community
sports is all sport up until you represent your country.
So it includes regional competitions, national age grade competitions. That
is the half way through to allege sport. And you
know it's been in safety matters at elite level, it
matters at community level too.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
What happens because it's the individual organizations the bodies that
set their own rules. So do you think that they
will listen to this or not listen to this, I
mean whatever, Have any of them changed their rules based
on the old guidelines to begin with.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
Yeah, they already have transfer on New Zealand and boxing
New Zealand have already moved to change their guidelines and
they protect the female category, and a lot of other
sports have had THEIRS in review. I think waiting on
this decision, the landscape of transgender inclusion sport has evolved
significantly since those guiding principles were first introduced. At the time,
sports did need some help because the IOC had made
this announcement which has done the world opening up the

(28:45):
female category and treating women as nothing more than men
with lower testosterone. But most international sporting federations now has
moved to protect the female category and this allows our
national federations to follow suits.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Okay, right, do you hate trains people? This is whatever?

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Oh gosh, we want everyone to be included, and but
we play sport with our bodies, not our identity, so
it needs to be in the category of your biological chech.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Appreciate your time this morning, wrote Edge Save Women's Sport Australasia.
New Zealand spokesperson just gone ten minutes away from six
here on news Talks VB AD a time like this,
we're paying down our mortgages. Some interesting numbers out yesterday.
Have to know what I'll bring you. But paying down
our mortgages at a rate we potentially haven't ever done before,
which is well good and bad actually for the economy.

(29:30):
It's ten to sex News Talks, VB.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
News and Views you Trust to start your day. It's
earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge at Expol Insulation Keeping
Kiwi Homes Warm and Drey this Winter.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
News Talks EDB seven to six on News Talks VB.
So turns out we're paying down our mortgage, which is
good and bad because it means that the money that
you're spending you're using to pay down your mortgage is
not going into the economy, but it is going down
to pay your mortgage, which the banks don't like because
then they have to find somewhere to put that money.
But for the year to June, this was twenty two
point six billion dollars in interest paid on housing loans

(30:05):
in New Zealand, which is close to an all time high.
June quarter, Borrow has made seven and a half billion
in regular payments that you'd expect to make, but then
we topped it up. Good on you four point six
billion in excess payments, so yes, we will pay off
our mortgage is fast. As a result of that, the
June level was easily, according to Interest dot Co, the

(30:26):
most ever on record. As I say, the banks then
have something somewhere to find to put that cash. And
as for Donald Trump and his deal with Japan, biggest deal,
he says, in the history of the world, certainly the
best deal since Liberation Day. And if she been needed
this the rumors he would resign, He's stamped on those

(30:47):
the US. It's, of course, Japan's biggest export market, and
Japan is the fourth largest economy in the world, so
this is significant. Tarif's come down to fifteen percent, and
the automakers of Japan particularly happy with that number. Just
gone six to six in the studio, Make good morning,
Good to see you're right great, Toe is always you've
been paying down the mortgage, but everybody's been doing.

Speaker 13 (31:07):
Not a fan of debt, never been a fan of debt.
How bad on a scale of one to ten, Let
me ask you this question, on a scale of one
to ten, ten being shocking, one being no worries at all?
How bad was Nichola Willis yesterday post post Milkkake.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
To be honest, I'm not shocked, So I won't be
ticking the shock box because you're not shocked at what
but the reaction that she had.

Speaker 13 (31:31):
You're you're not shocked at the fact she didn't know
how butter's made and what it costs.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
No, she knew that. Obviously she didn't, but she was
obviously going into the meeting.

Speaker 13 (31:41):
You were it was a dumb game.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
It was a pr exercise.

Speaker 13 (31:44):
So you think that that it's valuable for the Finance
Minister of the New Zealand economy to rack people up
and going I'll tell you what. I'm going to get
Niles in the office and I'm going to give him
a good word and then come out and go, oh,
he said, it's not really a scandal.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think it's politically expedient. Do you wrut ultimately a
waste of our time?

Speaker 13 (32:03):
Do you think we can't see through that going going
into it? Everybody knows? Does no one know? There's an
article somewhere in the paper this morning it goes, we're
a nation of cows, so why is butter so expensive?
Do you honestly tell me that there are a chunk
of New Zealanders, including the finance minister that don't know
how butter's made and how it's The.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Finance minister knows how it's made, but she's playing to
the crowd who perhaps don't know as well. Those people
are there, well, I would guess probably the majority who
just go to the Nope, no think about it, go
to the supermarket and look at the price a butt
it and say if you if.

Speaker 13 (32:39):
That's two different things looking at a price of something
and going that's that's expensive. That's fine because we all
agree it's expensive. No one argues it's not expensive, but
you can understand why it's expensive. Therefore, if you can
understand why it's expensive, you can't be upset because there's
a rationale behind it. And therefore, as a leader in
the community, which is what the finance minister is, you
shouldn't be in the busines of I.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Don't know what's going on. Yeah, but that's just playing
and it's just playing the game. Just send it to
the same thing. I mean, but she was useless.

Speaker 13 (33:08):
I thought Nikola Willis was about credibility.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well clearly, not clearly, not all I'd say, But the
question was am I shock fight No? No, sadly not
shot fight at all? Hey, have you got it? Shearon
on today? I do grace, it's luck would have Ryan?

Speaker 13 (33:27):
I take it that wasn't a question out of left field?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well no, I heard an ad and I thought we
didn't actually tease anything about your show us today, so
we why not throw that in there?

Speaker 13 (33:35):
Well, come on, teach shear and tease more, id Sheeran
after Price the Butter and bashing Nikola.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
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