September 23, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Francesca Rudkin Full Show Podcast Wednesday the 24th of September 2025, The Government’s overhauling the Holidays Act, Marisa Bidois Chief Executive of the Restaurant Association tells Francesca about the difference it'll make for businesses and employees.
The Herald's released the Mood of the Boardroom survey, Co-founder and Chair of New Zealand Initiative, Roger Partridge shares his thoughts.
Our top business leaders are pushing back on proposed changes to credit card surcharges, Leah Mckerrow Chief Executive of Northchamber, tells Francesca, why they're pushing back.
Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey has the latest on the UK’s health Secretary saying ignore Trump’s health advice on Autism and a drone incursion that stopped flights at Copenhagen and Oslo airports 24 hours ago might have Russian involvement.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Francesca Ruggin on
earlier is show with one roof Love where You Live
News Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Be good morning, Welcome to early edition. I'm Francisca Budkin
filling in for d Ryan who was on Drive this week.
Welcome to Wednesday. Great to have you with us. You're
most welcome to contact me anytime this morning. You can
flicker text on ninety two ninety two where you can
email me at Francesca at newstalksb dot co dot NZ.
On the show today, Retail New Zealand and business chambers
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want the credit cards. Surcharges decision reversed, we find out why,
we look at the new mood of the boardroom survey
out today, and before the end of the hour, we
find out what HOSPO thinks of the Holidays Act Overhaul.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's Wednesday, the twenty fourth of September. Trump's been giving
a speech to the UN General Assembly firing shops at Europe.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Sine period of your seven months, I have ended seven wars.
They said they were unendable and sadly in all cases
the United Nations did not even try to help in
any of them. I ended seven.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Wars, dealt with the leaders of each and every one
of these countries, and never even received a phone call
from the United Nations offering to help in finalizing the deal.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Meanwhile, France has formally recognized a Palestinian state.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
We must do everything within our power to preserve the
very possibility of a two state solution, Israel and Palestine
living side by side in peace and security.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Kamala Harris has given her first interview since losing to Trump.
She's partially blamed herself for the election defeat.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
When I talk about the recklessness as much as anything,
I'm talking about myself. There was so much as weena
at stake, and as I write, you know where my
head was at at the time is that it would
be completely it would come off as being completely self serving.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
If you said to President Biden if you did not
think you should run again.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Yeah, or even though he should question whether it's a
good idea.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And finally, Jimmy Kimmel is getting his show back on
air after a short suspension. Disney pulled him for jokes
about Charlie Kirk's death.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
They say that the comments last week were ill timed.
They were insensitive, but they've had these conversations with Jimmy
Kimmel and the show will return on Tuesday. This may
be the end of this particular episode, but it does
not bring an end to this really febrile debate in
the United States over free speech.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And that's the agenda on.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Francesca
Rutkin and One roof Love where you Live News Talks'd be.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, it really is construction week. So we've done the hospitals,
we've done schools yesterday, and we moved on to housing
for our defense force. MP Chris Penk released a press
release just reminding us that the largest defense housing project
in decades is officially underway. The government intends to invest
up to six hundred million in decent homes for our
military personnel. Look, much of this work has started, much
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of it has already been announced, So this was purely
a marketing exercise to remind us how much the government
is investing in construction and creating jobs in his projects
in the pipeline. If you take a look at the
New Zealand Herald Mood for the Boardroom survey out today,
you can see why the government is doing their best
to inject some positivity. CEOs have ranked the performance of
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cabinet ministers and others outside the cabinet. You get a
ranking out of five. One is not impressive, five is
very impressive. Chris Pink got a three point one point
eight for building and construction. It's not too bad, So
he came in at tenth. It'll be absolutely no surprise
who is at the top of the list. Erica Stanford,
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of course is in the number one spot. She got
four point three eight. This is the top ten. She
was then followed by Winston Peters, Foreign Affairs, Chris Bishop, Infrastructure,
Todd McLay, Trade, Mark Mitchell, Police, Simeon Brown, Health, Judih Collins, Defense,
Brook van Dervelden workplace Relations, Shane Jones regional Development, and
number ten Chris Pink. Now you will notice something else
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about that list, and that is there is no prime
minister or finance minister. Nichola Willis came in at thirteenth
and Christopher Luxon came in at fifteenth, and I don't
think either of them will be happy about that. Francisco,
So what do you think of those rankings? I think
the top ten sounds about right. These are all ministers
who are getting things done, or at least seem to
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be getting things done. This is not a good result
for the prime minister. He was at sixth last year.
CEOs are pretty happy with his performance on the world stage.
They think he's doing good things for New Zealand overseas
and that aspect. They also like the fact that he
keeps cabinet colleagues focused on delivery, but when it comes
to other domestic issues they're not so strong in him.
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He got a two point sixty three ranking for leads
and developed delivers on transformative change and a two point
seventy six for political performance as Prime Minister. So keen
to hear from you what you think about that. I
think moment it kind of does some things up quite nicely.
Shortly we are going to take a closer look at
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what our business leaders want to see from the government.
But up next we're going to talk the surcharge man.
It is top Us five you with news Talks at.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
B Views and Views you Trust to start your day.
It's early edition with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love
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Speaker 2 (05:43):
That'd be fourteen past five New Zealand's top business leaders
are pushing back on changes to credit cards, surcharges, retail
New Zealand and business chambers across the country have penned
an open letter to Commerce Minister Scott Simpson. They're urging
him to reverse plans that would ban businesses from passing
on credit card fees. They say it will lead to
unintended consequences for business owners. Leah mccairo, the CEO of
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North Chamber and one of the signatories, joins me, Now,
good morningly, thanks for your time, Cat Madier. What have
businesses said to you about the band? How dire are
the consequences that we're looking at here?
Speaker 9 (06:21):
Well, look, the band comes into effect next May. So
while I haven't heard necessarily a lot specifically from the businesses,
but we do know that any cost that's occurred by
them is going to actually affect them quite greatly to
far at the moment, So there is concern that these
mountain costs are going to have quite an impact on them.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Is the issue that small rural businesses are going to
be subsidizing us big city payWave addicted consumers.
Speaker 9 (06:47):
Well, you know, you're right, It does depend on this
the way that people pay, and obviously it's the credit
cards that are incurring the costs. We've got to remember
that the credit card companies and the banks are the
ones that actually set these fees. And there is already
a regulation in place that that businesses can't charge more
than they are being charged. But yes, it is going
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to be those smaller, those companies that take the money.
They're not going to incur the cost in the first place,
so it won't matter too much to them.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, was this an unintended consequence? Do you think? Do
you think that the minister knew that this would kind
of happen as a result of the law change.
Speaker 9 (07:28):
Look, I think so. I mean she has suggested that
that businesses treat it to treat that like any other
price increase, in that they just put it on top
of the costs. But that means that every consumer is
going to be impacted by that, not just so as
deciding to use pay label credit cards, and that seems
a little unfair for every consumer.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Before the ban, small businesses were charging increasing, charging more
and more for payWave. What's going to stop them from
doing that again? If the charges are scraped.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
Well, I think That's what we're audjesting is rather than
scrapping them or or making it that small business is
not able to on charge it, that they put in
a restriction around that. There is already, as I said,
a requirement to actually charge no more than that being charged.
But surely we can do that and then have some
sort of consumer line that actually identifies those businesses that
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may well be trying to buck the system and make
money out of it. That's not the point. The point
is that these small businesses are the ones that are
now going to be incurring these costs. What are they
to do?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Leah, On a completely different note, I believe the Northland
Monopoly game has just arrived and Dargaville is upset they
got the brown spaces.
Speaker 9 (08:43):
Well, I think that there was some concern. That was
the first question I got, asked, who's the brown spaces?
And I think we need to think about where could
I actually purchase a property when I'm just entering on
the ladder, and I reckon Dargaville is just the place
for people.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Who got the gorgeous who's got the blue properties?
Speaker 9 (09:02):
Oh? Look, do you know? At a top of mind,
I cannot recall, but it is absolutely beautiful and it's
Lands and Punaray this morning. So we're going down to
open the container and it's pretty special.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Actually, oh brilliant, brilliant. Enjoy that. Thank you so much, Lea.
Appreciate that that was thea Macaro there for the CEO
of mid Chamber and one of those signatories. Okay, up next,
we're going to talk about the mood of the boardroom.
It is seventeen past five.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Francesca Rudkin and One Room Love
where you live News Talks at me.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's twenty past five, right, we've got the Herald's mood
of the boardroom and in a word, it's grim. Our
business leaders are calling for more bipartisanship when it comes
to tax, retirement and the long term outlook for New Zealand.
A big talking point was Trump's tariffs, with CEO's confidence
plummeting in light of the presidents of Vergeon to free trade.
Roger Patridge is the co founder and chair of the
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New Zealand Initiative and he joins me now, good morning Roger,
thanks for your time.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Good morning Francesca.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So you could describe the mood of the boardroom in
one word, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, I think grim is quite a good word. Troubled.
Everybody's aware the economies struggling, cost of livings high, and
the business communities looking for a clear direction from the
government and not feeling that they're quite delivering.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
There's pretty much unanimous agreement that the economy isn't taking
off in the ways that we will promised. What are
those key issues holding us back?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, one of the big issues is the extent of
government spending. That's meant that it's taken longer for interest
rates to come down, and with interest rates high, productive
activity has not rebounded them the way you'd hope after
a recession. I think the government under estimated the extent
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of the problem they inherited from the last government and
underestimated how much pain it was going to take and
cause to firms, workers and consumers. Probably should have managed
expectations better on how long it was going to take
to turn things around.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You've called for bipartisanship on our economic future. What's stopping
this progress? Is it the fringe parties?
Speaker 9 (11:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think news it's worth We're always tempted to think
about what divides us politically, but it's worth thinking a
bit about how much we agree on and trying to
broaden the scope when you step back and think about
the issues that aren't subject to political flip flops every
time there's an election. Who we've got by partisanship on
free trade, on an independent foreign policy. We've had by
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partisanship and probably still do. On the need for a
broad based tax system with a clean GST. We don't
have a successive governments tinkling this talk of it every now,
and they're not tinkering with our GSD, but it's the
envy of the world. It's a very efficient tax. We've
had cross party support for more than three decades on
treaty settlements and cross party support on climate change. So
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there's a lot that unites us, and I think that's
a strength of our political system. One of the challenges
is to broaden that out. We've had bipartisan support for
a prudent fiscal policy and low levels of debt, keeping
debt at around twenty percent of GST at our GDP,
and that lasted until the pandemic, and then the training
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wheels came off. The spending constraints came off with both parties.
So I think we should think about the important areas
where we can agree politically on issues like retirement savings, infrastructure, pipeline.
There are a whole host of policy areas just crying
out for certainty.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
A lot of feedback about Trump's tariffs and the impact
that's had on confidence. Trump did what he said he
was going to do. Should we have been more prepared
for the reality of these tariffs?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I think people were misled globally about what Trump term
two was going to look like. Trump said an awful
lot of things before term one, which he didn't do,
and I think people thought he might have been messing
with America and the world more than he actually was.
All Right, so we weren't alone in not taking what
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he said at face value.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
There we go and really quickly, Roger, do you think
the Prime Minister will be happy with his ranking?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
He won't be happy. No, it's for him. It's definitely
work in progress.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Thank you so much, Really appreciate your time this morning.
That was Roger Partridge. It is twenty four past.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
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Speaker 2 (13:59):
Righty home. I didn't really want to touch on this yesterday.
I really hope the story about President Trump coming out
and declaring that pregnant mothers taking paracetamol was the cause
of autism would just die quick death in the news,
but it made an impact. As you may have seen,
comments like Trump's are hugely frustrating and unhelpful. They cause
concern among expectant mothers about the use of paracetamol, and,
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as stated by the New Zealand College of Midwives yesterday,
high quality scientific evidence does not demonstrate a causal link
or association between paracetamol use and autism or other development concerns.
Large high quality studies, including population data from Sweden involving
over two million children, found no increased risk of autism,
ADHD or intellectual disability from paracetamol use during pregnancy. You
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could also ask mothers of autistic children, the ones I
know are scratching their heads because they didn't use paracetamol
when pregnant. Please, if you're a pregnant mum out there,
follow their vus of your doctor, not a politician. Reputable
clinicians and researchers have been working for DEAs kids to
understand this complex neurodevelopmental syndrome, and the widely held view
of researches is that there is no single cause. Rather,
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it is thought to be the result of a complex
mix of mostly genetic and to a lesser extent, environmental factors.
When you have autism in the family, you don't think
about cure or cause. You're focused on helping that person
live their best life, and they can live a great life.
The rise in reported autism cases is not a horrible
crisis as Trump has described it. There is a simple
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reason why the number of cases has increased, and it's
not because of vaccines, but rather the result of changes
in the way autism is defined and assessed. In the
nineteen eighties, autism was tightly defined and considered extremely rare.
Then Asperger's syndrome, which is much milder in severity than
classic autism and much more common, was added as a diagnosis,
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and then in twenty thirteen, Asperger syndrome was eliminated as
a standalone diagnosis and folded into the newly introduced concept
of autism spectrum disorder. Hence, an increase in diagnosis is
under that one umbrella. That and more general awareness of
ASD has led to more people getting themselves all their
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children assessed. And yes, the difficulty of diagnosing autism can
lead to misdiagnosis as well, But implying autism is something
to fear, something that needs to be raised, is offensive. Yes,
there are high support need cases which are hugely challenging
for families, and yes, living with the disability in a
world that isn't designed for you is difficult. But with support,
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autistic people live productive, interesting and rich lives and quite frankly,
the world would be much less without them.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Franchise good.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So I've had Massay, I've got that off my chest
and it makes me feel a little bit better. There
we go. Hey, just going back to the mood of
the boardroom that we were talking about. I thought what
was really interesting here was the impact of terrorists, tariffs
and geopolitical issues on businesses. It's very, very much at
the front of mind. Maybe Nikola willis who I thought,
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you know, she was trying to keep things in perspective
when she said, look, it's not great news. It's a
bit disappointing, but it represents only a fraction of New
Zealand's overall trade. Maybe we were a bit caught out
around this, Maybe that approach should have been a little
bit Maybe we should have just been a little bit
more proactive and on that. Anyway, keen to get your thoughts,
you mightst to Welcome to Text ninety two ninety.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Two the first Word on the News of the Day,
earlier edition with Francesca Rudgin and one roof love where
you live. News Talks, that'd be.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I want to.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Everybody wants one.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
This is early edition on news Talks. There'd be I'm
Francisco Rudkin filling in for Ryan who is on drive today.
Thanks for being with us. In the next half hours,
so we're going to head to Europe. You've probably heard
about those drones that stopped flights at Copenhagen and Oslo
airports about twenty four hours ago. Twenty thousand passengers were
affected in Copenhagen alone, while it has now thought that
the Russians are involved. So Gavin Gray with the latest
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on this and the Holidays Act was overhauled.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
The overhaul announcement was made yesterday and it looks like
a pretty balanced approach. Good to see a simpler plan
and action. Shame it takes so long to reprogram software
to make it happen though, right, no fast tracking here,
but before the end of the hour, we're going to
find out how these changes, presuming the legislation has passed,
will affect the hospo industry. Hey, thank you very much
for your feedback, Francesca. Christopher Luxen is having to use
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tough love, which hurts but is necessary to get back
on track. The problem lays directly at the feet of
the Labor government, leaving the cupboard completely bare. We're talking
about the mood of the boardroom and how the CEOs
are feeling about the government's performance. Another text here, I've
been a National supporter all my life. Ome Minister Christopher
Luxon is in my opinion, the worst National prime minister
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of all times, so you might not be surprised he came.
He ranked fifteenth and Frantisca, that survey means nothing. Luxen
is the strong glue holding a three party coalition together
and allowing his ministers to concentrate on their portfolios. Fifteen
is better than having Hipkins and co wrecking our country
for a second time. So thanks so much for the feedback.
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You can keep that coming. You can text on ninety
two to ninety two. It is twenty one two six.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Francisco and we are going to.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Head around the country now and joining me from Dunedin
as Callum Proctor. Good morning, Callum morning.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
PACIFICA workers in Oamaru are future proofing their careers.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
Yeah, this is right. This is of course set against
the backdrop of economic uncertainty impacting primary industries and so
a training initiative has been launched, an amoro called Project Fairtoo,
aimed at PACIFICA factory workers. It's a free the nz
QA accredited course and it's designed to upskill these workers
in numerousy and literacy to help them secure employment if
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local jobs are cut. Omaru has one of the country's
fastest growing Pacific populations by demographic and its workers live
more than an hour away from any type of formal education.
Our Pacific Workforce Development Manager Fred Leutua says the upskilling
of the Pacific workforce is vital for New Zealand's economy
and it's hoped that this pilot will inspire similar models
across New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
How's your weather today, Callum.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
Morning, cloud clears to a fine day today.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
The high seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Thank you so much. Claire Sherwood is in christ Church.
Good morning, Claire, good morning. Okay, so there's some concern
that christ Church Hospital might not be able to cope
if there was a mass casualty event.
Speaker 12 (20:46):
Yeah, this is really concerning, Francesca. We've had doctors saying
that patients are dying. Hospital staff are also seriously affected
by some daily code reds that are happening, particularly in
the ED department of Christchurch Hospital, but also hospital wide.
We know that patients have been in a case of
standing room only in the ED department in recent days.
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Some patients are being treated in corridors. Some are waiting
more than twenty four hours to even be seen when
the target is six. Now, Senior doctor Dominant flee Share
is one of the ones who's lifting the lid on
the situation there. He says that he personally worked through
the christ earthquakes and the Mosk attacks and he knows
that they wouldn't be able to cope with an event
like that now with the way things are. He says,
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the ED during those times did have spere beds, but
now they're not just at one hundred percent, but they're
beyond that, so undoubtedly the hospital would not be able
to perform to those levels.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, that is concerning Claire. How's your weather today?
Speaker 12 (21:42):
Some low cloud and fog possible to start, but then
should clear to find northwesterlies and a hive nineteen.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Thank you Claire, Max Toller's and Wellington for us.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
Good morning, Max, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So the outgoing mayor has changed her ambitions, got some
new plans.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Yeah, curious interview by our newsroom with Tory Farno in
The Herald this morning. It's been a tumultuous term for her,
to say the least, and while she has previously said
she does want a crack at the mayalty in twenty
twenty eight or further out, she now says she doesn't
and instead simply Harbor's ambition to enter Parliament with the
Green Party in twenty twenty nine. All the way through
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her twenty twenty two campaign when she ran for mayor,
there was a lot of talk that she was only
seeking local leadership to boost her profile to indeed one
day make the Greens list. Civil Defense, mardi development, foreign affairs.
These are all portfolios she's told us she's eyeing up
in the past. In the meantime, she has of course
quit the Wellington Marylty. She's running for council in a
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Mardi ward. She's also revealed she's joined an organization that
runs public speaking events, conferences, leadership etc. So you can
pay to hear her speak. I'm not quite sure what
the topic would be though, beyond lessons learned, I'm this.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm not going to say a word. Thank you, Mex.
Is the weather looking better today?
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Indeed, party cloudy nor Westerly's fifteen the high.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Thank you so much, Mex. Neither Britty money was in
the Auckland studio. Good morning, good morning. The new world
Victoria Park which was once our little local supermarket here, yes, me,
it is now completely bare after going up and flows.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
Yeah that's right now. This is despite previous claims that
the building wouldn't undergo a complete demolition, but food Stuff's
North Dining claimed a complete demolition of the storm was
not on the cards.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
In July.
Speaker 13 (23:23):
However, significant changes now being made to the site, and
so food Stuff says that the damaged roof and the
walls have been removed. It's all bere now. The remaining
concrete slab in car parks going to undergo an engineering assessment.
It also says that the company will be able to
be in a better position to make decisions, you know,
about the future of the building after all of this
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complete demolition, including preparing plans for the new supermarket whenever
that's going to open.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Okay, so that are going to rebuild on the site. Yes, okay. Interesting.
Speaker 13 (23:52):
That's weather today, rain turn into showers around midday, heavy
at times, possible understorms and downpours. Nineteen is the high warm,
warm and wheat warm.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But wheat perfect for the school holidays. Once again, thank
you so much. Neva appreciated Nick's brock. The UK and Europe.
Gavin Gray is with us. It is seventeen to.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Six international correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Then we hit to Europe. In the UK now Gavin
Gray is with me. Good morning, Devin.
Speaker 14 (24:22):
Him the Francesca.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, so it's good to see the UK Health Scretary
is suggesting that we ignore Trump's health advice when it
comes to autism.
Speaker 14 (24:33):
Yes, very much so. So this, of course after Donald
Trump's comments that the pain relief of tailanol, which of
course is known in New Zealand and the UK's paracetamol
is no good, he said, for pregnant women to use,
citing a disputed link between the drug and autism. Now
we're Streeting, he's the health secretary here in the UK,
he said, I trust doctors over President Trump. Don't pay
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any attention whatsoever to the US president's unfounded claims, he said,
And he's gone on as well with a number of
other people too. Look at the various studies that have
gone on about this particular claim of a link and
said where Streeting said, I've just got to be really
clear about this. There is no evidence to link the
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use of parasitam or by pregnant women to autism in
their children.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
None.
Speaker 14 (25:20):
And he then quoted a major Swedish study last year
involving two point four million children which found absolutely no
link between the drug and autism. So where did Donald
Trump's claims come from? Well, it's another study, this time
at Harvard University's Cham School of Public Health. And there
was a one in Japan, again but not conclusive, and
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therefore the advice is ignored. Donald Trump, who of course
also promoted unsubstantiated medical claims during the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Now, tell me what is going on about these drones,
the drones that stopped the flights at Copenhagen and Oslo airports.
Is it the word yes, the Russians.
Speaker 14 (25:58):
Well that's what we're waiting to hear, Francesca. Now, if
you're thinking, we will hang on a minute. If it's
drones near an airport, why didn't they shoot them down?
Were The answer is that around Copenhagen, the Castrop Airport
in Copenhagen, Denmark, it's very densely populated. So they really
did think that these are quite large drones, not the
little ones that you buy down the shops for personal use,
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that it just couldn't shoot them down. And the Prime
Minister of Denmark, Meta fredericks And said, this is the
most severe attack on Danish infrastructure so far. So what
happened is that the airspace was shut for several hours
from about eight thirty local time in the evening, and
it followed the sighting of a number of drones. The
Danish Prime minister made a link between last night's events
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in Denmark and also the recent Russian drone incursions in
Poland and Romania, as well as the violation of Estonian
airspace by Russian fighter jets. Now, to be clear, there
is absolutely no undisputed link to Russia and what's been
going on, but plenty of people think this is again
(27:03):
Vladimir Putin test in the water, seeing how far he
can push things before NATO reacts. Well already now we're
getting Poland and the Czech Republic saying, you know what,
if something flies over our space, I'm shooting it down
and I don't care if it's Russian or not.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Thank you so much for the update, Gevin. Appreciate that
it is eleven to six Francisco. As expected. The government's
overhauling the Holidays Act Sickly will now be pro riuter
matching hours worked instead of a flat ten days, and
your leave will also occur based on ours, giving workers
more flexibility. Marissa Badoir, the Restaurant Association chief executive, is
(27:41):
with me now. Good morning, Maroissa, thanks.
Speaker 15 (27:43):
For your time, Good morning, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Is this a long time coming for you?
Speaker 15 (27:49):
Absolutely, it has been a very long time coming. The
work's gone on over the last year, but it's been
twenty years really since issues with the old system started. Happening,
So we're very pleased to see this reform coming through.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So how does this provide clarity for businesses?
Speaker 15 (28:07):
Well, look, in particular for hospitality businesses, a lot of
our businesses don't work on a forty hour week at all.
We're employing casual employees, we're employing part timers. The new
system really takes into account those more different and modern
ways of working as well. So it's really getting an
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overhaul and being adapted to be more user friendly in
the modern world, I think is the best way to
describe it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Will it change the way businesses interact with their employees?
Speaker 15 (28:38):
Look, I think as far as that interaction with employees,
it's going to simplify things for both employers and employees.
And I think anything in this space when it comes
to pay, if it's easier to understand, it's going to
be better for everybody.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
In hospo. Do you have a lot of part timers
or do you have a lot of casual workers?
Speaker 11 (29:00):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 15 (29:01):
We do have a lot of part time workers and
casual workers across different parts of the sector. Also seasonal,
you know, we have people coming in to help out
with a busy season. For example, you know, so this
is this type of approach will make it much easier
for employers. The old system based a lot of its
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calculations on either weekly for annual leave or daily for
sick leave. This really simplifies it by making both of
those areas provided sort of over an hourly basis, So
it really does simplify it.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The unions have sort of taken a look at this one.
We've all taken a look at and goneque. It's quite
good for casual workers, but it's a little bit of
a potentially could be a step back for part time
as if you take a look at sick pay that
they will potentially see a reduction of leave entitlement. Is
that a concern for you?
Speaker 15 (29:57):
Look, I think it sort of balances out, to be honest,
I think it sort of matches the hours that you work.
If you are a full time employee, you are going
to be seeing more sickly entitlements. If you are a
part time you know, employee, then yes it is reduced,
but I think it balances out as far as you're
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the hours that you're actually working.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Was there anything else that you looked at with this
overhaul and you thought, right, that is going to be,
you know, great for the hospitality industry specifically.
Speaker 15 (30:29):
Look, I think it really is around that change from
weekly and daily to hourly. I know so many employers
who agonize over essentially making sure that they're getting these
payments correct when it comes to sick pay or holiday pay.
And I mean, if we're looking at large corporate organizations
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and even some government departments, we're making mistakes on this.
You can imagine what a nightmare it has been for
a small business.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So I worked in hospital when I was at university
and things, Marissa, and I don't think I ever got
the right holiday pay or sick paid what you know,
what I was expecting, never quite any right, you know,
So it's always kind of been like that was quite
a long time ago. I suppose the other thing you
locate here too, is obviously they're hoping to get this
legislation through the House before the end of the year,
or at least before the end of this term. Then
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it's another couple of years. You know, we've got to
change all the software. It's still a bit of a
long hauling head. It's a shame we can't fast traate
this exactly.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
And that's one of some of the feedback we've been
receiving from employers business owners there to say, wow, we
have to wait this long before we implement this. And yes,
I understand that. You know, we have systems to update,
but a lot of the systems that we've been reviewing
are already in some ways ready to go. So yeah,
it does seem like a long time to wait before
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before the actual implementation happens. But I guess we need
time to educate everyone we were up to speed. But yes,
it'd be great if we could kick it off earlier.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Marissa, thank you so much for your time this morning.
Have a great day. Mike Hosking is in the studio. Next,
it is six to six.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with
Francesca Rudkin and one roof love where you Live news
talks that'd be coming up.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
At six as the Mike Hostking Breakfast and Mike Hosking
joins me.
Speaker 16 (32:24):
Now, good morning, good morning. A couple of things. Did
you know that people a crewed leave just read your
interview before. Did you know people a crewed leave when
they're on acc?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Sorry what the crew?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
They are?
Speaker 16 (32:34):
Crew leave right when you're on acc? Oh and that's
one of the things they changed yesterday. It's the weirdest thing.
How is it possible that you're not working but you're
still accruing leave anyway, said I tidly that up. Thank
the good Lord our teachers. By the way of that
changes out of yesterday, then six years right years away,
it's you and I are we did by the time
the changes come in, it's.
Speaker 11 (32:54):
All very well.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And I hope not Mike, which brings us to.
Speaker 16 (32:57):
The border of the mood of the boardroom thing this
morning that we'll be covering a little bit. So do
you find and I was just discussing this out out there.
I mean, I get why they do it, but do
you find a point score? Kind of childish a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
But I suppose they have kind of broken it down
into categories like people have given school that that total
score comes from looking at certain things. Yeah, I get,
And I suppose they're saying, we don't think you're bringing
transformational change. But then they're saying, hey, lot, you're doing
really well on an international safe So I suppose they're
giving some direction. I mean, it's if you give if
you give someone a rating and you don't explain why
that's no use, right, but at least here you can
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look at it and go, oh okay, I got to
take here, and I got a cross.
Speaker 16 (33:37):
The Well, the next question for you is what's a pass?
If it's out of five? Is two point five a
pass or as three a pass? You know what's your
boy five? So it's two point five, you are above
two point five, that's.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Above good pass, that's a pass.
Speaker 16 (33:50):
So it's in you and above two point five. Well,
in that case most of them pass, So I suppose
that's the outside bad anyway.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
Nikola willis who's.
Speaker 16 (33:58):
One of the feature topics, and that will be with us.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
My costume is up next.
Speaker 9 (34:03):
Take Care.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Be good morning, Welcome to early edition. I'm Francisca Budkin
filling in for d Ryan who was on Drive this week.
Welcome to Wednesday. Great to have you with us. You're
most welcome to contact me anytime this morning. You can
flicker text on ninety two ninety two where you can
email me at Francesca at newstalksb dot co dot NZ.
On the show today, Retail New Zealand and business chambers
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want the credit cards. Surcharges decision reversed, we find out why,
we look at the new mood of the boardroom survey
out today, and before the end of the hour, we
find out what HOSPO thinks of the Holidays Act Overhaul.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's Wednesday, the twenty fourth of September. Trump's been giving
a speech to the UN General Assembly firing shops at Europe.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Sine period of your seven months, I have ended seven wars.
They said they were unendable and sadly in all cases
the United Nations did not even try to help in
any of them. I ended seven.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Wars, dealt with the leaders of each and every one
of these countries, and never even received a phone call
from the United Nations offering to help in finalizing the deal.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Meanwhile, France has formally recognized a Palestinian state.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
We must do everything within our power to preserve the
very possibility of a two state solution, Israel and Palestine
living side by side in peace and security.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Kamala Harris has given her first interview since losing to Trump.
She's partially blamed herself for the election defeat.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
When I talk about the recklessness as much as anything,
I'm talking about myself. There was so much as weena
at stake, and as I write, you know where my
head was at at the time is that it would
be completely it would come off as being completely self serving.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
If you said to President Biden if you did not
think you should run again.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Yeah, or even though he should question whether it's a
good idea.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And finally, Jimmy Kimmel is getting his show back on
air after a short suspension. Disney pulled him for jokes
about Charlie Kirk's death.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
They say that the comments last week were ill timed.
They were insensitive, but they've had these conversations with Jimmy
Kimmel and the show will return on Tuesday. This may
be the end of this particular episode, but it does
not bring an end to this really febrile debate in
the United States over free speech.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And that's the agenda on.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Francesca
Rutkin and One roof Love where you Live News Talks'd be.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, it really is construction week. So we've done the hospitals,
we've done schools yesterday, and we moved on to housing
for our defense force. MP Chris Penk released a press
release just reminding us that the largest defense housing project
in decades is officially underway. The government intends to invest
up to six hundred million in decent homes for our
military personnel. Look, much of this work has started, much
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of it has already been announced, So this was purely
a marketing exercise to remind us how much the government
is investing in construction and creating jobs in his projects
in the pipeline. If you take a look at the
New Zealand Herald Mood for the Boardroom survey out today,
you can see why the government is doing their best
to inject some positivity. CEOs have ranked the performance of
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cabinet ministers and others outside the cabinet. You get a
ranking out of five. One is not impressive, five is
very impressive. Chris Pink got a three point one point
eight for building and construction. It's not too bad, So
he came in at tenth. It'll be absolutely no surprise
who is at the top of the list. Erica Stanford,
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of course is in the number one spot. She got
four point three eight. This is the top ten. She
was then followed by Winston Peters, Foreign Affairs, Chris Bishop, Infrastructure,
Todd McLay, Trade, Mark Mitchell, Police, Simeon Brown, Health, Judih Collins, Defense,
Brook van Dervelden workplace Relations, Shane Jones regional Development, and
number ten Chris Pink. Now you will notice something else
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about that list, and that is there is no prime
minister or finance minister. Nichola Willis came in at thirteenth
and Christopher Luxon came in at fifteenth, and I don't
think either of them will be happy about that. Francisco,
So what do you think of those rankings? I think
the top ten sounds about right. These are all ministers
who are getting things done, or at least seem to
(04:42):
be getting things done. This is not a good result
for the prime minister. He was at sixth last year.
CEOs are pretty happy with his performance on the world stage.
They think he's doing good things for New Zealand overseas
and that aspect. They also like the fact that he
keeps cabinet colleagues focused on delivery, but when it comes
to other domestic issues they're not so strong in him.
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He got a two point sixty three ranking for leads
and developed delivers on transformative change and a two point
seventy six for political performance as Prime Minister. So keen
to hear from you what you think about that. I
think moment it kind of does some things up quite nicely.
Shortly we are going to take a closer look at
(05:25):
what our business leaders want to see from the government.
But up next we're going to talk the surcharge man.
It is top Us five you with news Talks at.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
B Views and Views you Trust to start your day.
It's early edition with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love
where you Live News Talks.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That'd be fourteen past five New Zealand's top business leaders
are pushing back on changes to credit cards, surcharges, retail
New Zealand and business chambers across the country have penned
an open letter to Commerce Minister Scott Simpson. They're urging
him to reverse plans that would ban businesses from passing
on credit card fees. They say it will lead to
unintended consequences for business owners. Leah mccairo, the CEO of
(06:07):
North Chamber and one of the signatories, joins me, Now,
good morningly, thanks for your time, Cat Madier. What have
businesses said to you about the band? How dire are
the consequences that we're looking at here?
Speaker 9 (06:21):
Well, look, the band comes into effect next May. So
while I haven't heard necessarily a lot specifically from the businesses,
but we do know that any cost that's occurred by
them is going to actually affect them quite greatly to
far at the moment, So there is concern that these
mountain costs are going to have quite an impact on them.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Is the issue that small rural businesses are going to
be subsidizing us big city payWave addicted consumers.
Speaker 9 (06:47):
Well, you know, you're right, It does depend on this
the way that people pay, and obviously it's the credit
cards that are incurring the costs. We've got to remember
that the credit card companies and the banks are the
ones that actually set these fees. And there is already
a regulation in place that that businesses can't charge more
than they are being charged. But yes, it is going
(07:08):
to be those smaller, those companies that take the money.
They're not going to incur the cost in the first place,
so it won't matter too much to them.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, was this an unintended consequence? Do you think? Do
you think that the minister knew that this would kind
of happen as a result of the law change.
Speaker 9 (07:28):
Look, I think so. I mean she has suggested that
that businesses treat it to treat that like any other
price increase, in that they just put it on top
of the costs. But that means that every consumer is
going to be impacted by that, not just so as
deciding to use pay label credit cards, and that seems
a little unfair for every consumer.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Before the ban, small businesses were charging increasing, charging more
and more for payWave. What's going to stop them from
doing that again? If the charges are scraped.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
Well, I think That's what we're audjesting is rather than
scrapping them or or making it that small business is
not able to on charge it, that they put in
a restriction around that. There is already, as I said,
a requirement to actually charge no more than that being charged.
But surely we can do that and then have some
sort of consumer line that actually identifies those businesses that
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may well be trying to buck the system and make
money out of it. That's not the point. The point
is that these small businesses are the ones that are
now going to be incurring these costs. What are they
to do?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Leah, On a completely different note, I believe the Northland
Monopoly game has just arrived and Dargaville is upset they
got the brown spaces.
Speaker 9 (08:43):
Well, I think that there was some concern. That was
the first question I got, asked, who's the brown spaces?
And I think we need to think about where could
I actually purchase a property when I'm just entering on
the ladder, and I reckon Dargaville is just the place
for people.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Who got the gorgeous who's got the blue properties?
Speaker 9 (09:02):
Oh? Look, do you know? At a top of mind,
I cannot recall, but it is absolutely beautiful and it's
Lands and Punaray this morning. So we're going down to
open the container and it's pretty special.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Actually, oh brilliant, brilliant. Enjoy that. Thank you so much, Lea.
Appreciate that that was thea Macaro there for the CEO
of mid Chamber and one of those signatories. Okay, up next,
we're going to talk about the mood of the boardroom.
It is seventeen past five.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
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where you live News Talks at me.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's twenty past five, right, we've got the Herald's mood
of the boardroom and in a word, it's grim. Our
business leaders are calling for more bipartisanship when it comes
to tax, retirement and the long term outlook for New Zealand.
A big talking point was Trump's tariffs, with CEO's confidence
plummeting in light of the presidents of Vergeon to free trade.
Roger Patridge is the co founder and chair of the
(10:03):
New Zealand Initiative and he joins me now, good morning Roger,
thanks for your time.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Good morning Francesca.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So you could describe the mood of the boardroom in
one word, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, I think grim is quite a good word. Troubled.
Everybody's aware the economies struggling, cost of livings high, and
the business communities looking for a clear direction from the
government and not feeling that they're quite delivering.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
There's pretty much unanimous agreement that the economy isn't taking
off in the ways that we will promised. What are
those key issues holding us back?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, one of the big issues is the extent of
government spending. That's meant that it's taken longer for interest
rates to come down, and with interest rates high, productive
activity has not rebounded them the way you'd hope after
a recession. I think the government under estimated the extent
(11:03):
of the problem they inherited from the last government and
underestimated how much pain it was going to take and
cause to firms, workers and consumers. Probably should have managed
expectations better on how long it was going to take
to turn things around.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You've called for bipartisanship on our economic future. What's stopping
this progress? Is it the fringe parties?
Speaker 9 (11:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think news it's worth We're always tempted to think
about what divides us politically, but it's worth thinking a
bit about how much we agree on and trying to
broaden the scope when you step back and think about
the issues that aren't subject to political flip flops every
time there's an election. Who we've got by partisanship on
free trade, on an independent foreign policy. We've had by
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partisanship and probably still do. On the need for a
broad based tax system with a clean GST. We don't
have a successive governments tinkling this talk of it every now,
and they're not tinkering with our GSD, but it's the
envy of the world. It's a very efficient tax. We've
had cross party support for more than three decades on
treaty settlements and cross party support on climate change. So
(12:16):
there's a lot that unites us, and I think that's
a strength of our political system. One of the challenges
is to broaden that out. We've had bipartisan support for
a prudent fiscal policy and low levels of debt, keeping
debt at around twenty percent of GST at our GDP,
and that lasted until the pandemic, and then the training
(12:39):
wheels came off. The spending constraints came off with both parties.
So I think we should think about the important areas
where we can agree politically on issues like retirement savings, infrastructure, pipeline.
There are a whole host of policy areas just crying
out for certainty.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
A lot of feedback about Trump's tariffs and the impact
that's had on confidence. Trump did what he said he
was going to do. Should we have been more prepared
for the reality of these tariffs?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I think people were misled globally about what Trump term
two was going to look like. Trump said an awful
lot of things before term one, which he didn't do,
and I think people thought he might have been messing
with America and the world more than he actually was.
All Right, so we weren't alone in not taking what
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he said at face value.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
There we go and really quickly, Roger, do you think
the Prime Minister will be happy with his ranking?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
He won't be happy. No, it's for him. It's definitely
work in progress.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Thank you so much, Really appreciate your time this morning.
That was Roger Partridge. It is twenty four past.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Five the early edition Full The Show podcast on iHeartRadio,
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Speaker 2 (13:59):
Righty home. I didn't really want to touch on this yesterday.
I really hope the story about President Trump coming out
and declaring that pregnant mothers taking paracetamol was the cause
of autism would just die quick death in the news,
but it made an impact. As you may have seen,
comments like Trump's are hugely frustrating and unhelpful. They cause
concern among expectant mothers about the use of paracetamol, and,
(14:21):
as stated by the New Zealand College of Midwives yesterday,
high quality scientific evidence does not demonstrate a causal link
or association between paracetamol use and autism or other development concerns.
Large high quality studies, including population data from Sweden involving
over two million children, found no increased risk of autism,
ADHD or intellectual disability from paracetamol use during pregnancy. You
(14:45):
could also ask mothers of autistic children, the ones I
know are scratching their heads because they didn't use paracetamol
when pregnant. Please, if you're a pregnant mum out there,
follow their vus of your doctor, not a politician. Reputable
clinicians and researchers have been working for DEAs kids to
understand this complex neurodevelopmental syndrome, and the widely held view
of researches is that there is no single cause. Rather,
(15:08):
it is thought to be the result of a complex
mix of mostly genetic and to a lesser extent, environmental factors.
When you have autism in the family, you don't think
about cure or cause. You're focused on helping that person
live their best life, and they can live a great life.
The rise in reported autism cases is not a horrible
crisis as Trump has described it. There is a simple
(15:30):
reason why the number of cases has increased, and it's
not because of vaccines, but rather the result of changes
in the way autism is defined and assessed. In the
nineteen eighties, autism was tightly defined and considered extremely rare.
Then Asperger's syndrome, which is much milder in severity than
classic autism and much more common, was added as a diagnosis,
(15:52):
and then in twenty thirteen, Asperger syndrome was eliminated as
a standalone diagnosis and folded into the newly introduced concept
of autism spectrum disorder. Hence, an increase in diagnosis is
under that one umbrella. That and more general awareness of
ASD has led to more people getting themselves all their
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children assessed. And yes, the difficulty of diagnosing autism can
lead to misdiagnosis as well, But implying autism is something
to fear, something that needs to be raised, is offensive. Yes,
there are high support need cases which are hugely challenging
for families, and yes, living with the disability in a
world that isn't designed for you is difficult. But with support,
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autistic people live productive, interesting and rich lives and quite frankly,
the world would be much less without them.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Franchise good.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So I've had Massay, I've got that off my chest
and it makes me feel a little bit better. There
we go. Hey, just going back to the mood of
the boardroom that we were talking about. I thought what
was really interesting here was the impact of terrorists, tariffs
and geopolitical issues on businesses. It's very, very much at
the front of mind. Maybe Nikola willis who I thought,
(17:09):
you know, she was trying to keep things in perspective
when she said, look, it's not great news. It's a
bit disappointing, but it represents only a fraction of New
Zealand's overall trade. Maybe we were a bit caught out
around this, Maybe that approach should have been a little
bit Maybe we should have just been a little bit
more proactive and on that. Anyway, keen to get your thoughts,
you mightst to Welcome to Text ninety two ninety.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Two the first Word on the News of the Day,
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you live. News Talks, that'd be.
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Everybody wants one.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
This is early edition on news Talks. There'd be I'm
Francisco Rudkin filling in for Ryan who is on drive today.
Thanks for being with us. In the next half hours,
so we're going to head to Europe. You've probably heard
about those drones that stopped flights at Copenhagen and Oslo
airports about twenty four hours ago. Twenty thousand passengers were
affected in Copenhagen alone, while it has now thought that
the Russians are involved. So Gavin Gray with the latest
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on this and the Holidays Act was overhauled.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
The overhaul announcement was made yesterday and it looks like
a pretty balanced approach. Good to see a simpler plan
and action. Shame it takes so long to reprogram software
to make it happen though, right, no fast tracking here,
but before the end of the hour, we're going to
find out how these changes, presuming the legislation has passed,
will affect the hospo industry. Hey, thank you very much
for your feedback, Francesca. Christopher Luxen is having to use
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tough love, which hurts but is necessary to get back
on track. The problem lays directly at the feet of
the Labor government, leaving the cupboard completely bare. We're talking
about the mood of the boardroom and how the CEOs
are feeling about the government's performance. Another text here, I've
been a National supporter all my life. Ome Minister Christopher
Luxon is in my opinion, the worst National prime minister
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of all times, so you might not be surprised he came.
He ranked fifteenth and Frantisca, that survey means nothing. Luxen
is the strong glue holding a three party coalition together
and allowing his ministers to concentrate on their portfolios. Fifteen
is better than having Hipkins and co wrecking our country
for a second time. So thanks so much for the feedback.
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You can keep that coming. You can text on ninety
two to ninety two. It is twenty one two six.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Francisco and we are going to.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Head around the country now and joining me from Dunedin
as Callum Proctor. Good morning, Callum morning.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
PACIFICA workers in Oamaru are future proofing their careers.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
Yeah, this is right. This is of course set against
the backdrop of economic uncertainty impacting primary industries and so
a training initiative has been launched, an amoro called Project Fairtoo,
aimed at PACIFICA factory workers. It's a free the nz
QA accredited course and it's designed to upskill these workers
in numerousy and literacy to help them secure employment if
(20:08):
local jobs are cut. Omaru has one of the country's
fastest growing Pacific populations by demographic and its workers live
more than an hour away from any type of formal education.
Our Pacific Workforce Development Manager Fred Leutua says the upskilling
of the Pacific workforce is vital for New Zealand's economy
and it's hoped that this pilot will inspire similar models
across New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
How's your weather today, Callum.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
Morning, cloud clears to a fine day today.
Speaker 11 (20:33):
The high seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Thank you so much. Claire Sherwood is in christ Church.
Good morning, Claire, good morning. Okay, so there's some concern
that christ Church Hospital might not be able to cope
if there was a mass casualty event.
Speaker 12 (20:46):
Yeah, this is really concerning, Francesca. We've had doctors saying
that patients are dying. Hospital staff are also seriously affected
by some daily code reds that are happening, particularly in
the ED department of Christchurch Hospital, but also hospital wide.
We know that patients have been in a case of
standing room only in the ED department in recent days.
(21:06):
Some patients are being treated in corridors. Some are waiting
more than twenty four hours to even be seen when
the target is six. Now, Senior doctor Dominant flee Share
is one of the ones who's lifting the lid on
the situation there. He says that he personally worked through
the christ earthquakes and the Mosk attacks and he knows
that they wouldn't be able to cope with an event
like that now with the way things are. He says,
(21:29):
the ED during those times did have spere beds, but
now they're not just at one hundred percent, but they're
beyond that, so undoubtedly the hospital would not be able
to perform to those levels.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, that is concerning Claire. How's your weather today?
Speaker 12 (21:42):
Some low cloud and fog possible to start, but then
should clear to find northwesterlies and a hive nineteen.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Thank you Claire, Max Toller's and Wellington for us.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
Good morning, Max, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So the outgoing mayor has changed her ambitions, got some
new plans.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Yeah, curious interview by our newsroom with Tory Farno in
The Herald this morning. It's been a tumultuous term for her,
to say the least, and while she has previously said
she does want a crack at the mayalty in twenty
twenty eight or further out, she now says she doesn't
and instead simply Harbor's ambition to enter Parliament with the
Green Party in twenty twenty nine. All the way through
(22:18):
her twenty twenty two campaign when she ran for mayor,
there was a lot of talk that she was only
seeking local leadership to boost her profile to indeed one
day make the Greens list. Civil Defense, mardi development, foreign affairs.
These are all portfolios she's told us she's eyeing up
in the past. In the meantime, she has of course
quit the Wellington Marylty. She's running for council in a
(22:38):
Mardi ward. She's also revealed she's joined an organization that
runs public speaking events, conferences, leadership etc. So you can
pay to hear her speak. I'm not quite sure what
the topic would be though, beyond lessons learned, I'm this.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm not going to say a word. Thank you, Mex.
Is the weather looking better today?
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Indeed, party cloudy nor Westerly's fifteen the high.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Thank you so much, Mex. Neither Britty money was in
the Auckland studio. Good morning, good morning. The new world
Victoria Park which was once our little local supermarket here, yes, me,
it is now completely bare after going up and flows.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
Yeah that's right now. This is despite previous claims that
the building wouldn't undergo a complete demolition, but food Stuff's
North Dining claimed a complete demolition of the storm was
not on the cards.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
In July.
Speaker 13 (23:23):
However, significant changes now being made to the site, and
so food Stuff says that the damaged roof and the
walls have been removed. It's all bere now. The remaining
concrete slab in car parks going to undergo an engineering assessment.
It also says that the company will be able to
be in a better position to make decisions, you know,
about the future of the building after all of this
(23:44):
complete demolition, including preparing plans for the new supermarket whenever
that's going to open.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Okay, so that are going to rebuild on the site. Yes, okay. Interesting.
Speaker 13 (23:52):
That's weather today, rain turn into showers around midday, heavy
at times, possible understorms and downpours. Nineteen is the high warm,
warm and wheat warm.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But wheat perfect for the school holidays. Once again, thank
you so much. Neva appreciated Nick's brock. The UK and Europe.
Gavin Gray is with us. It is seventeen to.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Six international correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Then we hit to Europe. In the UK now Gavin
Gray is with me. Good morning, Devin.
Speaker 14 (24:22):
Him the Francesca.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, so it's good to see the UK Health Scretary
is suggesting that we ignore Trump's health advice when it
comes to autism.
Speaker 14 (24:33):
Yes, very much so. So this, of course after Donald
Trump's comments that the pain relief of tailanol, which of
course is known in New Zealand and the UK's paracetamol
is no good, he said, for pregnant women to use,
citing a disputed link between the drug and autism. Now
we're Streeting, he's the health secretary here in the UK,
he said, I trust doctors over President Trump. Don't pay
(24:55):
any attention whatsoever to the US president's unfounded claims, he said,
And he's gone on as well with a number of
other people too. Look at the various studies that have
gone on about this particular claim of a link and
said where Streeting said, I've just got to be really
clear about this. There is no evidence to link the
(25:16):
use of parasitam or by pregnant women to autism in
their children.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
None.
Speaker 14 (25:20):
And he then quoted a major Swedish study last year
involving two point four million children which found absolutely no
link between the drug and autism. So where did Donald
Trump's claims come from? Well, it's another study, this time
at Harvard University's Cham School of Public Health. And there
was a one in Japan, again but not conclusive, and
(25:40):
therefore the advice is ignored. Donald Trump, who of course
also promoted unsubstantiated medical claims during the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Now, tell me what is going on about these drones,
the drones that stopped the flights at Copenhagen and Oslo airports.
Is it the word yes, the Russians.
Speaker 14 (25:58):
Well that's what we're waiting to hear, Francesca. Now, if
you're thinking, we will hang on a minute. If it's
drones near an airport, why didn't they shoot them down?
Were The answer is that around Copenhagen, the Castrop Airport
in Copenhagen, Denmark, it's very densely populated. So they really
did think that these are quite large drones, not the
little ones that you buy down the shops for personal use,
(26:20):
that it just couldn't shoot them down. And the Prime
Minister of Denmark, Meta fredericks And said, this is the
most severe attack on Danish infrastructure so far. So what
happened is that the airspace was shut for several hours
from about eight thirty local time in the evening, and
it followed the sighting of a number of drones. The
Danish Prime minister made a link between last night's events
(26:43):
in Denmark and also the recent Russian drone incursions in
Poland and Romania, as well as the violation of Estonian
airspace by Russian fighter jets. Now, to be clear, there
is absolutely no undisputed link to Russia and what's been
going on, but plenty of people think this is again
(27:03):
Vladimir Putin test in the water, seeing how far he
can push things before NATO reacts. Well already now we're
getting Poland and the Czech Republic saying, you know what,
if something flies over our space, I'm shooting it down
and I don't care if it's Russian or not.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Thank you so much for the update, Gevin. Appreciate that
it is eleven to six Francisco. As expected. The government's
overhauling the Holidays Act Sickly will now be pro riuter
matching hours worked instead of a flat ten days, and
your leave will also occur based on ours, giving workers
more flexibility. Marissa Badoir, the Restaurant Association chief executive, is
(27:41):
with me now. Good morning, Maroissa, thanks.
Speaker 15 (27:43):
For your time, Good morning, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Is this a long time coming for you?
Speaker 15 (27:49):
Absolutely, it has been a very long time coming. The
work's gone on over the last year, but it's been
twenty years really since issues with the old system started. Happening,
So we're very pleased to see this reform coming through.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So how does this provide clarity for businesses?
Speaker 15 (28:07):
Well, look, in particular for hospitality businesses, a lot of
our businesses don't work on a forty hour week at all.
We're employing casual employees, we're employing part timers. The new
system really takes into account those more different and modern
ways of working as well. So it's really getting an
(28:27):
overhaul and being adapted to be more user friendly in
the modern world, I think is the best way to
describe it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Will it change the way businesses interact with their employees?
Speaker 15 (28:38):
Look, I think as far as that interaction with employees,
it's going to simplify things for both employers and employees.
And I think anything in this space when it comes
to pay, if it's easier to understand, it's going to
be better for everybody.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
In hospo. Do you have a lot of part timers
or do you have a lot of casual workers?
Speaker 11 (29:00):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 15 (29:01):
We do have a lot of part time workers and
casual workers across different parts of the sector. Also seasonal,
you know, we have people coming in to help out
with a busy season. For example, you know, so this
is this type of approach will make it much easier
for employers. The old system based a lot of its
(29:24):
calculations on either weekly for annual leave or daily for
sick leave. This really simplifies it by making both of
those areas provided sort of over an hourly basis, So
it really does simplify it.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The unions have sort of taken a look at this one.
We've all taken a look at and goneque. It's quite
good for casual workers, but it's a little bit of
a potentially could be a step back for part time
as if you take a look at sick pay that
they will potentially see a reduction of leave entitlement. Is
that a concern for you?
Speaker 15 (29:57):
Look, I think it sort of balances out, to be honest,
I think it sort of matches the hours that you work.
If you are a full time employee, you are going
to be seeing more sickly entitlements. If you are a
part time you know, employee, then yes it is reduced,
but I think it balances out as far as you're
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the hours that you're actually working.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Was there anything else that you looked at with this
overhaul and you thought, right, that is going to be,
you know, great for the hospitality industry specifically.
Speaker 15 (30:29):
Look, I think it really is around that change from
weekly and daily to hourly. I know so many employers
who agonize over essentially making sure that they're getting these
payments correct when it comes to sick pay or holiday pay.
And I mean, if we're looking at large corporate organizations
(30:52):
and even some government departments, we're making mistakes on this.
You can imagine what a nightmare it has been for
a small business.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So I worked in hospital when I was at university
and things, Marissa, and I don't think I ever got
the right holiday pay or sick paid what you know,
what I was expecting, never quite any right, you know,
So it's always kind of been like that was quite
a long time ago. I suppose the other thing you
locate here too, is obviously they're hoping to get this
legislation through the House before the end of the year,
or at least before the end of this term. Then
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it's another couple of years. You know, we've got to
change all the software. It's still a bit of a
long hauling head. It's a shame we can't fast traate
this exactly.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
And that's one of some of the feedback we've been
receiving from employers business owners there to say, wow, we
have to wait this long before we implement this. And yes,
I understand that. You know, we have systems to update,
but a lot of the systems that we've been reviewing
are already in some ways ready to go. So yeah,
it does seem like a long time to wait before
(31:53):
before the actual implementation happens. But I guess we need
time to educate everyone we were up to speed. But yes,
it'd be great if we could kick it off earlier.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Marissa, thank you so much for your time this morning.
Have a great day. Mike Hosking is in the studio. Next,
it is six to six.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with
Francesca Rudkin and one roof love where you Live news
talks that'd be coming up.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
At six as the Mike Hostking Breakfast and Mike Hosking
joins me.
Speaker 16 (32:24):
Now, good morning, good morning. A couple of things. Did
you know that people a crewed leave just read your
interview before. Did you know people a crewed leave when
they're on acc?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Sorry what the crew?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
They are?
Speaker 16 (32:34):
Crew leave right when you're on acc? Oh and that's
one of the things they changed yesterday. It's the weirdest thing.
How is it possible that you're not working but you're
still accruing leave anyway, said I tidly that up. Thank
the good Lord our teachers. By the way of that
changes out of yesterday, then six years right years away,
it's you and I are we did by the time
the changes come in, it's.
Speaker 11 (32:54):
All very well.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And I hope not Mike, which brings us to.
Speaker 16 (32:57):
The border of the mood of the boardroom thing this
morning that we'll be covering a little bit. So do
you find and I was just discussing this out out there.
I mean, I get why they do it, but do
you find a point score? Kind of childish a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
But I suppose they have kind of broken it down
into categories like people have given school that that total
score comes from looking at certain things. Yeah, I get,
And I suppose they're saying, we don't think you're bringing
transformational change. But then they're saying, hey, lot, you're doing
really well on an international safe So I suppose they're
giving some direction. I mean, it's if you give if
you give someone a rating and you don't explain why
that's no use, right, but at least here you can
(33:35):
look at it and go, oh okay, I got to
take here, and I got a cross.
Speaker 16 (33:37):
The Well, the next question for you is what's a pass?
If it's out of five? Is two point five a
pass or as three a pass? You know what's your
boy five? So it's two point five, you are above
two point five, that's.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Above good pass, that's a pass.
Speaker 16 (33:50):
So it's in you and above two point five. Well,
in that case most of them pass, So I suppose
that's the outside bad anyway.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
Nikola willis who's.
Speaker 16 (33:58):
One of the feature topics, and that will be with us.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
My costume is up next.
Speaker 9 (34:03):
Take Care.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
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