August 24, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Monday 25th of August 2025, Police Minister Mark Mitchell joins Ryan to talk about the issues with Police recruits.
Andrew Alderson has the latest on the weekend's sport.
Criminal Lawyer Steve Cullen shares his thoughts about where to draw the line on drug driving.
Plus UK/ Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey has the latest on the UK government planning an overhaul of the asylum appeals system.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
earlier is show with one roof Love, where you Live
News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It'd be good morning at six a half to five.
Mark Mitchell on this new police recruit story this morning.
Gavin Gray in the UK for US, the Lake Fern's
already spanking Spain and the Women's Rugby World Cup, and
we'll look at this judge's comment on drivee drivers from
Friday the agenda. It is Monday, the twenty fifth of August.
Israel denies it, of course, but the UN says it's official.
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There is famine in Gaza.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Those who are in Gaza City are facing an unimaginable,
untenable decision stay whether there's still not enough food, or
leave and rest that you'll never be allowed to give
back here.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Our Prime Minister Luxeon says there's no change to the
timeline for recognizing Palestine's estate. We're working through our own
process and we'll have more to talk about that with
respect to September and each country's coming to its own view.
We're plumb new death something when.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You're seeing validated and verified examples of them and that
are taking place in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That is just something that none of us want to see.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
And that's why as a global community is immense frustration.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This a big problem in the UK of migrant hotels.
The UK government wants to clear the backlog of asylum seekers.
So what are they doing setting up a new committee
to clear cases? People?
Speaker 6 (01:18):
The courts have to make sure that the law is
being kept to So we're talking about potential life and
death decision. So you have to do this in a
fair way.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Your labor in a real pickle over this, particularly in
some of their safest seats. Their labor constituents are turning
to Faraj. I'll tell you more about that later. Ukraine
has been celebrating Independence Day, almost ironically. Zelenski's about to
continue fighting. Mark Carney's there to celebrate.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Canada understands the lessons of history. We know that Putin
can never be trusted. We know that true peace and
security requires security guarantees for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you
Live News talks, that'd.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Be Oh, the thin Blue line is looking a little
bit wobbly this morning, just a little bit. You know.
The government's got this plan, and it's New Zealand first
and national to get five hundred extra cops out on
the beat. And they had a November deadline. Well they're
going to miss that, which is fine, but what you
don't want to do is stretch things, take things too far,
be too ambitious, and actually end up with half baked cops.
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And there's a Police College survey of senior cops that's
out this morning in the Herald, and this is your
field training officers. There are two hundred and thirty of them.
And so the police basically went them, bent to them
and said, what do you think of the new recruits
that are being pumped out. This is a March twenty
twenty five survey. Here's what they thought. More than half
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fifty five percent felt that the new officers were barely
or not at all well equipped with knowledge of making
an arrest, laying charges, which is quite important stuff. Only
two percent, that is just three of the respondents, three
of the senior guys, felt that the new bees were
actually very well prepared in this area. You know, this
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is making an arrest, this is telling them why someone's
been arrested, making them aware of their rights, all that
kind of stuff on paperwork. And remember paperwork might sound
naf but it's actually evidence gathering, so it's important when
you're trying to get a conviction right paperwork. The survey
found eighty three percent of your old timers reckon the
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new bees were barely or not well at all prepared.
This is after they've been through Police College. And remember
Mark Mitchell increased the number there where you were getting
eighty through a wing and he said no, let's do
one hundred through a wing, him and Casey Costello. So
are they is that at the expense of quality? That'll
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be the question this morning. And Mark Mitchell is going
to do two one thing, one or two things. I
just should say when he comes on the show just
before six this morning. This survey, as I said, was
taken in March over a six month period. So is
it labour's fault too? You know? Are we going to
play one of those games? I mean you have to
say on the basis of that we're going to go
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and change the curriculum, and indeed the police have said
that they're going to do that, make a few changes.
Is the problem the quality of the candidates you're getting
in there? In the first place, all the quality of
the training. Ryan Bridge, ten after five, Mark Mitchell here
just before six o'clock and next we'll talk about to
a criminal lawyer about this case. It was an interesting one.
So the guy has an accident, he's on drugs, is
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on a cannabis. Sadly one of his mates in the
car dies, another one ends up in a wheelchair and
the judge says you should go to prison for that. Now,
why is this news? That's next?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and one roof Love.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You Live News talks that'd been It's a much needed
investment coming to New Zealand at thirteen minutes after five.
I read this yesterday, twenty two million dollars of investment
coming from drifter to hotels and hostels. I've actually stayed
in one of these over in Australia. They've got one
already in christ Church near the new Stadium to Kaha.
They are opening new locations, two new locations. One's in Auckland,
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one is in Auckland and one will be in Wellington.
And this is good, this is good news. It's a hybrid.
As the name you can probably tell from hotels hostels.
It's kind of a hybrid. You can stay in a
nicer room or you can stay in a hostel, depending
on your budget. Anyway, they will do three hundred travelers
in Wellington, and they will do four hundred in Auckland
and just sort of the guy who runs it over
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in Australia. This guy is from Drifter, Luke Moran. He
says it's probably the tourism sector and a bit of
a lull in New Zealand at the moment, but I'm
still very positive on the New Zealand market outlook as
to the longer term growth and viability, which is good,
he said. I saw in an interesting article the other
day about New Zealand being that number one globally ranked
as the adventure capital of the world. So I'd like
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to see a little bit more marketing focused on that
from Tourism New Zealand, and I thought, yeah, we do it.
We've been going with the pure thing quite hard, haven't we.
Maybe we crank back up the a thrill secret the
adventurer side of it, that adventure of spirit, the bungees,
the jetboats, the mountain biking, the mountaineering, all that stuff.
Fourteen after five Bridge, where's the line on drug driving?
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On Friday, a twenty year old Napier man found it
two years behind bars after a cannabis fuel crash that
killed one of his friends and left another in a wheelchair.
The judge says, if you kill someone when driving under
the influence of drugs or alcohol, you can expect to
go to jail, even with no previous convictions. Steve Cullen
is a criminal lawyer joining us this morning. Morning Steve, Good.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Morning, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I would have thought that was obvious.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
It certainly is, given that the starting points in the
vicinity of four and a half to five years imprisonment,
there's in the never ability that anybody caught in that
type of situation will find themselves behind bars.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He gets discounts twenty percent for guilty plea, fifteen percent
for youth, five percent for restorative justice, ten percent for rehab,
so that gets him down to two point twenty five.
So he was actually very close to potentially getting home d.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
That's right, he went. If you effected those in he
began at the starting point of four and a half years,
so fifty percent discounts still takes you to two point
twenty five. You've got to be down to two years
or less to even be eligible for consideration for attention.
If you have a breast level over the statut Tree
prosecutable level, or a blood level over that level, or
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elements of drugs in your system, such as you're in
kempble of proper control and somebody dies, you're going to
go to jail.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
A judge's becoming harsher or is it just always the
way it's been.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
It's always the way it's been. I've had two or
three of these, and one relatively recently, and I remember
the judge they're looking founded when a submission was made
by ironically the prosecution that the starting point was lower.
The judge refered to an authority where a man even
killed his own child driving under the influence of drink
or drugs and wound up facing a term imprisonment. It's
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simply the way that the law has developed, because if
people have been killed due to drug drivers or drink
drivers being on the road, then a harsh penalty has
to be opposed to send the message to everybody. And
as on the judge Collins has been trying to vocalize
that so that people understand the risks they're undertaking.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's a good message to get through. Who cares if
there's no previous conviction, someone's died.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Yeah, how many people you are allowed to kill before
you should face go into prison?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's absurd, Steve, appreciate your time. Steve Cullen, criminal lawyer.
It is sixteen after five News talks'd be We'll get
to Andrew Ordison on the Black Ferns and the rest
of the morning's sport.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Next on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition
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News Talks.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He'd been five nineteen. It was reading an interesting piece.
This was on Interest dot Co Dottings Edit the Weekend
from Richard Mead. He's with the Center for Applied Energy
Economics and Policy at Griffith University. You know, last week
we were talking about the electricity sector and the gent tailors.
So you generate and then your retail the generators giving
their own retail arms discounts, and they're not giving those
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discounts to other players, and it's unfair, and so the
government says, hey, Genesis, Meridian, Mercury and Contact come here.
You must give everybody else the same terms and the
same price, so that the market is fairer. He makes
a really interesting point. He says, well, who would do that.
No firm would offer their rivals lower prices, especially when
(09:45):
that lower price comes from their investment in infrastructure and
generating new power themselves. So what will they do. They
will increase the amount they charge themselves and keep everybody
else the same, and the net effect is more expensive
electricity for us. So perversely, what the government's trying to
do could actually push the price of power up. Twenty
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after five would be Andrew Ortison here with sport. Hey,
Andrew Greeting's Ryan. Good to see ye. Now the weekend
this morning going great, but the weekend not so great
for the ab.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Steam coming out of the years, isn't it for many fans?
I think seeing that performance so just the the ill discipline,
the battle in the air, losing that one against lost Pimers.
We can't take anything away from the Pumas here. They've
come back having lost that first match and you know,
chapeau to them really, I mean, fantastic performance. But the
All Black this is a side that's way off presumably
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their best. I mean they're looking like I know you
wouldn't call it one of the great all Black teams
at the moment. Albeit it's made the Rugby Championship quite
interesting with each of the sides with a winning so far.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
But I would have thought if.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
We look ahead here the Fortress at Eden Park scenario
against Africa, and that makes for a crack it doesn't
it on September six weeks from now just under is
that going to hold?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Is that a line call at the moment?
Speaker 9 (11:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
If if not, you know, when you look at the
strength of South Africa over the last few years, that's
going to be some pressure for the Allwicks to take
into that one, to uphold that legacy if you like.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now the Rugby Woman's World Cup, the Black fans in Spain.
Georgia Miller on debut. Already she scored two trays. He's
one of them, Georgia Miller, A little dummy from Miller.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
The step Georgia Miller.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Welcome to the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
So far, Georgia Miller, the star Ryan. I have to
say a couple of tries there. One was set up
for on the on the right flank.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That was fine.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
There was a lovely peace women she had to sort
of evade and bullock her way over probably about twenty
two meters out there, as you heard in that clip.
But you know they've gone to halftime. I think was
twenty one to three or last I saw at least
after thirty five minutes for the Black Fans over Spain
in York, so a promising start that or I did
think the Spinion's played pretty well. To be honest, in
(12:00):
the first I wasn't quite expecting them to be as
as competitive as they were undersea.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You loving seeing Ruby Tooy commentating.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Hey, that's again, it's going to be an entertainment for
us all the way British masters. Yeah, this one that's
struck me this morning. There's been a terrific story for
Kazuma Kabori working as well into the European tour over
the course of the year, et cetera. But he's come
up with us a share of second this morning, and
I suppose more importantly for his bank bounce more than
(12:29):
half a million dollars, so five hundred and twenty three thousand.
Kazuma Kabori was in the Clubhouse lead at one stage,
but eventually pipped by a stroke by swede Alex Norrin.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
What's happening with the US Open?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So starting today the singles at least we had the
mixed doubles earlier on just one notable result. So for
Emma Radakaru, twenty twenty one champion is through in straight sets.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Nice one, Andrew, good to see you as always too,
right Ryan to the Raby updates this morning Andrew Ortison
was sport. It is twenty three minutes after five here
on news talks. There'd be coming up. Well, just the
dog attacks. You're saying that you would have seen the
stories and I now know of quite a few people
who've had been the experience them, either the their dogs
or themselves or both, which is even worse. Across the
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Tasman there's a big debate going on. It's the headline
I read at the weekend was quite funny. It was
like grandparents and parents turning and grandparents turning against parents,
I think was the headline. So the treasure over their charmers.
He wants to tackle into generational equality. You know, however,
government of the left wants to try and do this,
which is not exactly a bad thing potentially, but retirees
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over there get concessions on their super balances, so they
get a lower rate of taxation on their superannuation balances.
And they are worried. That is the more wealthy baby
boomers are worried that charmers is coming to raid their
super funds. So what they are doing already have announced
is that they will double that tax take on super
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balances if and it's only fifteen percent now, so we
go up to thirty percent. Will go sorry, we're double
from fifteen percent for balances of more than three million dollars.
So there's a big hohoha going on over there at
the moment, and it's come up at the productivity round
table and camera. I'll have one on that for you shortly.
It is twenty four after five the early.
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Speaker 2 (14:23):
News Talks THEB. It is twenty six minutes after five.
I have had it with vicious dogs and they're useless owners.
How many more children and pets will we tolerate being
maimed and punctured to death before this actually gets taken seriously?
Another one at the weekend woman had his scalp ripped off.
It's awful stuff. I've personally had three people in my
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life and I'm just one person who've been out for
a walk with their wipups on a leash registered of course,
that'll cost you two hundred bucks, poop bags in hand,
doing all the right things, only to be attacked by
some absolutely vicious mongrel and I mean absolutely ripped to pieces,
punk wounds, Owners taken to the ground, blood everywhere, shock
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hospital visits for the humans', expensive vet bills for the animals.
If they are lucky to survive, the road to recovery
is long, and poor old pup never really shakes. The
anxiety norders the owner. You've seen photos and the news
of kids' faces that look like they've been through the butchers.
It's gruesome, awful stuff, and those injuries are with them
for life. In Auckland alone, last year three thousand attacks
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fifteen thousand roaming dogs reported. When doy else do you
call something a crisis? Then now council says they're cracking down,
clearly too slow, clearly not working. Dogs need to be
destroyed immediately. Owners need to be banned from owning. But
they're not. This is according to the victims. They say nap.
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They're just treated like they're victims too. And here's something
that I thought was interesting and looking into this yesterday.
If a dog is attacking you, or you witness a
dog attacking another person or another dog, legally, you can
destroy the dog in that moment. It's legal. If your
actions will stop that attack from continuing, you do have
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the right to seize or destroy the animal, which would
seem to be the safest. And when you look at
the outcomes and you look at the number, would be
a safer option if a dog is attacking a child,
wouldn't you say twenty eight minutes after five US talk?
There'd be nice to have your company on a Monday
morning the Pentagon. You know, we talked about this a
(16:32):
couple of weeks ago, how the US had given Ukraine
long range missiles and everyone was like, oh, that's fantastic.
You know, they will be able to strike deeper and
further into Russia. Well, it turns out this is according
to a Wall Street General report. Turns out that US
defense officials have blocked Ukraine from using them. They can
(16:53):
go up to three hundred k's inside Russia apparently has
blocked them from US because they want to get Pootin
around the table for talk. So they don't want Ukraine
firing too far into putin Land. Least you annoy him
and he doesn't come to the table. And there is
don't just hand these weapons over and say go for it.
It's all yours. There's sort of a chain of command.
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They have to go upstairs and checks. So the Ukrainians
have to check with the Americans. Same with the British.
They have the same system. You have to check with them.
They look at the intelligence, they look at the aerial photographs,
they look at the targeting and then they say yeah
or nay. Thus far the US is saying nay. News
Talk said, be Gavin Gray out of the UK after.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
News Views and Views you trust to start your day.
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Speaker 2 (17:53):
News Talk said, be more same, tell me thank good morning.
As prey far away from six on, news Talk said,
be Mark Mitchell is with US Police Minister before six o'clock.
Are our new bees up to scratch coming out of
police college? That's the question this morning after the more
senior officers. Well, they're not exactly raving about the new
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bees coming out and the qualifications, the standards that have
been set. So we'll talk to him about that. Gavin
Gray's in the UK for us as well. It is
twenty four to six.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Jamie Cunningham with Danned News for us this morning. Jamie,
good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Tell us about Dunedin's local
alcohol policy. What's going on here?
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Yeah, well, the City Council will meet tomorrow to decide
whether to presco on a revised consultation document, following concerns
about last year's process. Now eighty five submissions were received
on the draft policy, but health officials, police and community
groups believe pre consultation was too limited. Now staff will
update research and begin fresh stakeholder engagement, with public consultation
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set for next year, and the current policy in place
since twenty nineteen will remain until a revised version is finalized.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
How's your weather, Well, it's a.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
Pretty good day here in Donedin, fine with light wines
and a high of fourteen.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
All right, thank you, Jamie. Clear's and christ Church for
us this morning. Clear good morning, good morning. Now that
worries there about homelessness.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
Yeah, constant worries about homelessness here. This is after the
city councilor extended the abatement notice deadline for the ten
people who have been living on in the car park
of Avonside's Holy Trinity Church. They extended that about an
hour before the group was set to be kicked off
the land on Friday. A decision regarding compliance with that
notus is now expected later this week. The local city councilor,
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Jake McLellan says it's still not an ideal housing situation.
He says the church car park is a band aid
over a problem stemming from the government tightening emergency housing
criteria and cutting funding, while fellow councilor Tyler Harrison Hunt
says it was a complex process for council staff who
were simply following the law. Party says an extension is
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still a win for the community.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, how's your weather?
Speaker 11 (20:11):
Very frosty and very foggy in christ Church today. That
low cloud will hang around and then clear this afternoon.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
A high of twelve.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All right, take care Max and Wellington, Max, Good morning,
Good morning, Loafer's Lodge fire. This is a newtown. The
trial starts today. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 13 (20:27):
The trial of the man accused of murdering five people
in that hostel beginning today. This Newtown's Loafers Lodge, of course,
broke out into flames in May twenty twenty three, just
after midnight. The man accused of starting two fires at
the hostel, of one of which killed five people, another
of which did not fully develop. The trial was supposed
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to happen last year, but was delayed by a year.
It is set to take five weeks now from today.
The man has name suppression, but we also understand he
may pursue a defensive insanity, so we should find that
out today. And then you've also got a separate to this,
a group of people responsible who were responsible for the
maintenance and management of Loafer's Lodge. They're also charged with manslaughter,
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but not due to go on trial for at least
another year.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, now, two other news. How was Beervana?
Speaker 13 (21:17):
You know, I go to be a banner every year
and to me it's a litmus test of how well
I can handle my alcohol. And the answer this year
is depressingly well, I probably drank a lot of a
lot of alcohol and it turned out all right.
Speaker 14 (21:33):
So that's what you thought, And what are the people
around you think? Well, when you feel like the sober one.
I feel like right, how's it we there?
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Fine?
Speaker 13 (21:46):
Today in North Least fourteen the high central good one,
never good.
Speaker 12 (21:50):
Morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Now we've got a reinvented New Zealand Fashion Week. I'm
being in Auckland today.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
That's right. All the fashion lovers they're going to be
flocking to the waterfront today. That's the revival of New
Zealand Fashion Week. Obviously, the high flying designers like Karen Walker,
Kiddy Nathan, they're going to be returning to the runway,
showcasing collections to local and global audiences. We've also got
a lot of new emerging talent as well in the mix.
Liam Taylor now he's the board director, he's the fashion
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landscape offers a blend of creativity and entrepreneurial spirit, you know,
because obviously Fashion Week has been you know, it took
a huge hit with COVID and it was postponed and
delayed and postponed and delayed again. So today in this
week should be I think there'll be a lot of
people turning out and they reckon too that the runway
is going to see a lot of world leading you
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know this get up and go attitude that New Zealand
has in a strong style, great eye for style.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I should say, yeah, do.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You think Mike Wild be down there?
Speaker 12 (22:47):
Probably he'll be the front.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Row jeans and.
Speaker 12 (22:53):
Too old for wearing ripped jeans now that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I think he was too old twenty years ago.
Speaker 12 (22:59):
Well, I'm I shouldn't throw them under the bus, because
one day about a year ago, I came in with
ripped jeans on and he had ripped jeans on as well,
and I thought, oh my gosh, look at the aging
z b is What does that say about.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
A new trend? I was saying to my partner of
the weekend, because he got a new pair of pants
on Saturday and they're not jeans, they just like corteruroid things.
Speaker 12 (23:19):
But you must tell Mike he's got a poo poo that.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Oh really, I wore Corteroids to the movies yesterday because
they're quite comfortable. Oh okay, you know the material is
quite soft, yes, so if you if you're stretching out
with them on a plane or on them into the movies,
because it's quite quite a nice fabric. But anyway, he
bought a new pair of pants and they've all got
the flat sort of wide bottom lease. Yes, the skinny
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jeans out the window, isn't it?
Speaker 12 (23:45):
I like that the flid. Look what kind of shoes
did your partner have on?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He had white, sort of big chunky white ones.
Speaker 12 (23:51):
Oh, it's quite trendy.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Like lesbians used to wear in the nineties. They probably
still do. How's the weather?
Speaker 8 (24:00):
What sll is?
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Sixteen?
Speaker 12 (24:05):
I can't for read sixteens a high.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Have a great morning. They're good to see you and enjoy.
New Zealand Fashion Week kicks off at Awkan's Waterfront today.
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Speaker 1 (25:26):
Advice, International Correspondence with NSIT Eye Insurance Feace of Mind
for New Zealand Business.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Youth Talk tob it is fourteen minutes away from six.
Mark Mitchell nets. Gavin Gray now our UK europe correspondent
and a big overhaul coming for asylum seeker appeals in
the UK.
Speaker 15 (25:45):
Gavin, that's right, Ryan, Yes, and the government I think
really responding to this growing anger and unease on the
streets about asylum seekers. And they're being housed in hotels
with food and money and director links to doctors and
so forth. And there have been some protests both that
yesterday's Saturday our time and today outside hotels that are
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being used to house migrants. And so the government has
announced is to set up a new independent body staffed
by independent adjudicators to hear cases more quickly. Now at
the moment, thirty two thousand asylum seekers are housed in hotels.
That's slightly down on what it has been and it
currently takes just over a year for an appeal to
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be heard. There are fifty one thousand cases awaiting a decision,
and that affecting something like about eighty five to ninety
thousand people, because sometimes a single case involves an entire family. Now,
during the time they are waiting this over a year,
the average, they are often accommodated at the taxpayer's expense,
and that is what people are getting. So I write
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about the Conservatives, the previous administration said the government is
in chaos. Reform UK that's Nigel Faraj's party which is
riding high on the polls says there must be mass
deportation by those arriving by illegal or irregular routes. That
is the only way to stop it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Devin, appreciate your time this morning. Devin Gray are UK
europe Correspondent, twelve minutes away from six. And by the
way I was hearing at the weekend, it's not just
you know, Nigel Farage is sort of making massive inroads.
He has overtaken the Conservatives and it's all to do
with migration and the asylum seekers that even in some
super safe labor seats they are flirting with Farage because
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they are so worried about it. Now twelve away, Bryan Bridge,
We've got trouble with new police recruits. A survey of
senior officers released to The Herald says graduates are barely
equipped to arrest or laid charges. Eighty three percent of
respondents reckon that they can't even handle the paperwork properly.
Mark Mitchell is Police Minister and joins me now, Minister,
good morning, take good warning. Ryan. Are we pumping out
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half baked cops?
Speaker 8 (27:54):
No?
Speaker 9 (27:54):
I don't think we're definitely not pumping at half baked
police officers, but it's always been the case that they do. Obviously,
they do their twenty weeks. Now I return, I increase
the courses from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks as Zenoy Minister,
and then they have two years probationary where they get
to all the on the job supervision and training that
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they need to become world class police officers. And we
have a world class police service, has no doubt about that.
It's good that the police are always testing themselves, that
they're having honest conversations, that they're identifying where there needs
to be improvement. My expectation is where they identify that
then they make the changes.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Is fifty five percent of the senior officers feeling that
the new bees were barely or not at all well
equipped with knowledge of the procedures for making an arrest
and laying charges world class.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Well, you're talking about probationary constables. You're talking about constibles
that are coming out on the job. See, your policing
is a very unique job where you have to test,
where you get tested, and a whole range of areas,
physically making decisions under pressure, all that sort of thing.
It's unrealistic to expect them to come out being experienced
police officers. They are rookies. They need strong supervision, they
need guidance when they come out on the street. They're
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probasary constables for two years, so they're still been tested
for another two years once they graduated from the college.
But the good thing is that is that they're identified
so that our senior field trainers who absolutely provide critical
feedback to the college. It's saying that there's some areas
that need will focus my expectations, the police will recognize
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that and I'll make the changes. When I was in opposition,
I was highlighting this and continually with the previous government
not to drop standards, to maintain standards. As the income
and government, we had a big focus on that. Yes
we had a target set, but if I was solely
focused on the target, I wouldn't have increased the training
course from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
But yeah, but you also minised to increase the wing
size from eighty to one hundred. You do have a
with New Zealand first, but it's not correct. That's not
correct right. The wing sizes are not one hundred. Every
wing size size it was like that, well, some of
them are seventy. Some of them are less, some of
them are more. But so you didn't you didn't move
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to increase the wing size.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
We moved to increase the capacity of the college to
be able to train fund so you saw, Yes, of
course we funded it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So the mass of funding, it's the problem here with
the training or with the candidates that are getting in,
because we know there's been problems there too. Well.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
You know that there's been a big focus on standards
and quality of training by this government. You know that
we're not going to compromise. We've been very clear and
said we're not going to compromise on the settings of targets.
We want to deliver five hundred aditional plus.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
If a result of that, it's not a great outcome,
is it. I mean, yes, we want more cops, but
we want more good cops. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Absolutely, And I just want to say again that come
along to a graduation meet. These police officers are some
of the best. We've got to put themselves forward for
service and difficult service.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Media senior officers saying this about them.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Then, because the places as an organization that tests it
souf hard. They realize that they have to maintain the
higher standards. That's exactly what the field officers are doing.
They're guiding them, they're training them, but they're making sure
they identify where.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
We could be doing better.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
In any organization should be looking for continual improvement. The
police is no different. In fact, it's critically important for
the police. Yes, as the Income Administer, I recognized the
fact that we needed to work on standards on trading.
That's why as the incoming minister, I supported moving our
recruit training course from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks. I
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increased that by four weeks. That wasn't going to help
us deliver our five hundred, but I found it was
very important to do in terms of standards.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Mark wint Or, Police Minister. Time is eight minutes away
from six news talks.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
They've been the news you need this morning and the
in depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bread and One
Room Love where.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You Live news talks. That'd be it is five away
from six yr on news talks. There'd be Mike's in
the studio. He's here next of course, Mike, good morning,
good morning. Now you've got the Prime Minister on this morning.
Always what do you reckon? Do you just hold to
hold out. I spoke to Stephen Joyce about this the
other day. You know there's pressure. There's Simon Bridges saying
you go in and spend more and borrow and you
need cuts for Auckland. You just hold the line, do
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you with your plan?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Well, of course you do, because the moment you start
up the specialist treatment, you set a precedent. And so
if Auckland needs help today, it will be christ Dutch
next week, and then it'll be Wellington. And if it
is Auckland, why didn't you do Wellington when we had
the public service cuts and so on and so forth.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And then you undermine your whole argument of getting into
government in the first place, don't you. It's the point.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Although I note with interest, we're doing something on the
hotels this morning, and so I saw a story, very
interesting story of the weekend. Now the problem is Auckland,
for example, So the guy from Sedema was saying, we're desperate,
we need more events and we've got all these assets
lying empty. But the problem with Auckland is who built
the hotels, wasn't the government? People buy bill hotels because
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they're you know, bullish about the market and they want
to back themselves and invest in a building. So apparently
Auckland's got too many hotels, so who's faults that? Whereas
Queenstown doesn't have enough hotels space. So do you have
a centralized system whereby people go, look you need three there,
two down there and let's make it even or do
you let the market do what the market?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Do you let the market does precisely?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
What I want to know more importantly, though, Ryan, is
if you saw the Prime Minister yesterday, what's his fascination
with Highber's best special gun boots and glasses. The guy
had a spade and he was breaking ground.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
He was digging.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
It wasn't even digging a whole, he was breaking ground.
And the guy had a high Ver's vest and gum
boots and safety glasses.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Why can't you be a little bit more like Winston
We you say no, I won't wear that.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Mate, I've got a spade. We're not drilling, you know
the center of the earth for oil because it's photo ops.
Isn't it that you have a photo op without safety glass?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Mark Mitchell and jacket every time it rains, he's got
a Nima jacket.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
I don't know anyway, you're right, the prim Miss Australian.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
All Right, look forward to it. Mike is next, have
a fantastic Monday and I'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
It'd be good morning at six a half to five.
Mark Mitchell on this new police recruit story this morning.
Gavin Gray in the UK for US, the Lake Fern's
already spanking Spain and the Women's Rugby World Cup, and
we'll look at this judge's comment on drivee drivers from
Friday the agenda. It is Monday, the twenty fifth of August.
Israel denies it, of course, but the UN says it's official.
(00:31):
There is famine in Gaza.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Those who are in Gaza City are facing an unimaginable,
untenable decision stay whether there's still not enough food, or
leave and rest that you'll never be allowed to give
back here.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Our Prime Minister Luxeon says there's no change to the
timeline for recognizing Palestine's estate. We're working through our own
process and we'll have more to talk about that with
respect to September and each country's coming to its own view.
We're plumb new death something when.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You're seeing validated and verified examples of them and that
are taking place in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That is just something that none of us want to see.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
And that's why as a global community is immense frustration.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This a big problem in the UK of migrant hotels.
The UK government wants to clear the backlog of asylum seekers.
So what are they doing setting up a new committee
to clear cases? People?
Speaker 6 (01:18):
The courts have to make sure that the law is
being kept to So we're talking about potential life and
death decision. So you have to do this in a
fair way.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Your labor in a real pickle over this, particularly in
some of their safest seats. Their labor constituents are turning
to Faraj. I'll tell you more about that later. Ukraine
has been celebrating Independence Day, almost ironically. Zelenski's about to
continue fighting. Mark Carney's there to celebrate.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Canada understands the lessons of history. We know that Putin
can never be trusted. We know that true peace and
security requires security guarantees for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you
Live News talks, that'd.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Be Oh, the thin Blue line is looking a little
bit wobbly this morning, just a little bit. You know.
The government's got this plan, and it's New Zealand first
and national to get five hundred extra cops out on
the beat. And they had a November deadline. Well they're
going to miss that, which is fine, but what you
don't want to do is stretch things, take things too far,
be too ambitious, and actually end up with half baked cops.
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And there's a Police College survey of senior cops that's
out this morning in the Herald, and this is your
field training officers. There are two hundred and thirty of them.
And so the police basically went them, bent to them
and said, what do you think of the new recruits
that are being pumped out. This is a March twenty
twenty five survey. Here's what they thought. More than half
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fifty five percent felt that the new officers were barely
or not at all well equipped with knowledge of making
an arrest, laying charges, which is quite important stuff. Only
two percent, that is just three of the respondents, three
of the senior guys, felt that the new bees were
actually very well prepared in this area. You know, this
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is making an arrest, this is telling them why someone's
been arrested, making them aware of their rights, all that
kind of stuff on paperwork. And remember paperwork might sound
naf but it's actually evidence gathering, so it's important when
you're trying to get a conviction right paperwork. The survey
found eighty three percent of your old timers reckon the
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new bees were barely or not well at all prepared.
This is after they've been through Police College. And remember
Mark Mitchell increased the number there where you were getting
eighty through a wing and he said no, let's do
one hundred through a wing, him and Casey Costello. So
are they is that at the expense of quality? That'll
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be the question this morning. And Mark Mitchell is going
to do two one thing, one or two things. I
just should say when he comes on the show just
before six this morning. This survey, as I said, was
taken in March over a six month period. So is
it labour's fault too? You know? Are we going to
play one of those games? I mean you have to
say on the basis of that we're going to go
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and change the curriculum, and indeed the police have said
that they're going to do that, make a few changes.
Is the problem the quality of the candidates you're getting
in there? In the first place, all the quality of
the training. Ryan Bridge, ten after five, Mark Mitchell here
just before six o'clock and next we'll talk about to
a criminal lawyer about this case. It was an interesting one.
So the guy has an accident, he's on drugs, is
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on a cannabis. Sadly one of his mates in the
car dies, another one ends up in a wheelchair and
the judge says you should go to prison for that. Now,
why is this news? That's next?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and one roof Love.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You Live News talks that'd been It's a much needed
investment coming to New Zealand at thirteen minutes after five.
I read this yesterday, twenty two million dollars of investment
coming from drifter to hotels and hostels. I've actually stayed
in one of these over in Australia. They've got one
already in christ Church near the new Stadium to Kaha.
They are opening new locations, two new locations. One's in Auckland,
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one is in Auckland and one will be in Wellington.
And this is good, this is good news. It's a hybrid.
As the name you can probably tell from hotels hostels.
It's kind of a hybrid. You can stay in a
nicer room or you can stay in a hostel, depending
on your budget. Anyway, they will do three hundred travelers
in Wellington, and they will do four hundred in Auckland
and just sort of the guy who runs it over
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in Australia. This guy is from Drifter, Luke Moran. He
says it's probably the tourism sector and a bit of
a lull in New Zealand at the moment, but I'm
still very positive on the New Zealand market outlook as
to the longer term growth and viability, which is good,
he said. I saw in an interesting article the other
day about New Zealand being that number one globally ranked
as the adventure capital of the world. So I'd like
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to see a little bit more marketing focused on that
from Tourism New Zealand, and I thought, yeah, we do it.
We've been going with the pure thing quite hard, haven't we.
Maybe we crank back up the a thrill secret the
adventurer side of it, that adventure of spirit, the bungees,
the jetboats, the mountain biking, the mountaineering, all that stuff.
Fourteen after five Bridge, where's the line on drug driving?
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On Friday, a twenty year old Napier man found it
two years behind bars after a cannabis fuel crash that
killed one of his friends and left another in a wheelchair.
The judge says, if you kill someone when driving under
the influence of drugs or alcohol, you can expect to
go to jail, even with no previous convictions. Steve Cullen
is a criminal lawyer joining us this morning. Morning Steve, Good.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Morning, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I would have thought that was obvious.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
It certainly is, given that the starting points in the
vicinity of four and a half to five years imprisonment,
there's in the never ability that anybody caught in that
type of situation will find themselves behind bars.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He gets discounts twenty percent for guilty plea, fifteen percent
for youth, five percent for restorative justice, ten percent for rehab,
so that gets him down to two point twenty five.
So he was actually very close to potentially getting home d.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
That's right, he went. If you effected those in he
began at the starting point of four and a half years,
so fifty percent discounts still takes you to two point
twenty five. You've got to be down to two years
or less to even be eligible for consideration for attention.
If you have a breast level over the statut Tree
prosecutable level, or a blood level over that level, or
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elements of drugs in your system, such as you're in
kempble of proper control and somebody dies, you're going to
go to jail.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
A judge's becoming harsher or is it just always the
way it's been.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
It's always the way it's been. I've had two or
three of these, and one relatively recently, and I remember
the judge they're looking founded when a submission was made
by ironically the prosecution that the starting point was lower.
The judge refered to an authority where a man even
killed his own child driving under the influence of drink
or drugs and wound up facing a term imprisonment. It's
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simply the way that the law has developed, because if
people have been killed due to drug drivers or drink
drivers being on the road, then a harsh penalty has
to be opposed to send the message to everybody. And
as on the judge Collins has been trying to vocalize
that so that people understand the risks they're undertaking.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's a good message to get through. Who cares if
there's no previous conviction, someone's died.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Yeah, how many people you are allowed to kill before
you should face go into prison?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's absurd, Steve, appreciate your time. Steve Cullen, criminal lawyer.
It is sixteen after five News talks'd be We'll get
to Andrew Ordison on the Black Ferns and the rest
of the morning's sport.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Next on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition
with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live
News Talks.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He'd been five nineteen. It was reading an interesting piece.
This was on Interest dot Co Dottings Edit the Weekend
from Richard Mead. He's with the Center for Applied Energy
Economics and Policy at Griffith University. You know, last week
we were talking about the electricity sector and the gent tailors.
So you generate and then your retail the generators giving
their own retail arms discounts, and they're not giving those
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discounts to other players, and it's unfair, and so the
government says, hey, Genesis, Meridian, Mercury and Contact come here.
You must give everybody else the same terms and the
same price, so that the market is fairer. He makes
a really interesting point. He says, well, who would do that.
No firm would offer their rivals lower prices, especially when
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that lower price comes from their investment in infrastructure and
generating new power themselves. So what will they do. They
will increase the amount they charge themselves and keep everybody
else the same, and the net effect is more expensive
electricity for us. So perversely, what the government's trying to
do could actually push the price of power up. Twenty
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after five would be Andrew Ortison here with sport. Hey,
Andrew Greeting's Ryan. Good to see ye. Now the weekend
this morning going great, but the weekend not so great
for the ab.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Steam coming out of the years, isn't it for many fans?
I think seeing that performance so just the the ill discipline,
the battle in the air, losing that one against lost Pimers.
We can't take anything away from the Pumas here. They've
come back having lost that first match and you know,
chapeau to them really, I mean, fantastic performance. But the
All Black this is a side that's way off presumably
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their best. I mean they're looking like I know you
wouldn't call it one of the great all Black teams
at the moment. Albeit it's made the Rugby Championship quite
interesting with each of the sides with a winning so far.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
But I would have thought if.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
We look ahead here the Fortress at Eden Park scenario
against Africa, and that makes for a crack it doesn't
it on September six weeks from now just under is
that going to hold?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Is that a line call at the moment?
Speaker 9 (11:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
If if not, you know, when you look at the
strength of South Africa over the last few years, that's
going to be some pressure for the Allwicks to take
into that one, to uphold that legacy if you like.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now the Rugby Woman's World Cup, the Black fans in Spain.
Georgia Miller on debut. Already she scored two trays. He's
one of them, Georgia Miller, A little dummy from Miller.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
The step Georgia Miller.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Welcome to the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
So far, Georgia Miller, the star Ryan. I have to
say a couple of tries there. One was set up
for on the on the right flank.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That was fine.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
There was a lovely peace women she had to sort
of evade and bullock her way over probably about twenty
two meters out there, as you heard in that clip.
But you know they've gone to halftime. I think was
twenty one to three or last I saw at least
after thirty five minutes for the Black Fans over Spain
in York, so a promising start that or I did
think the Spinion's played pretty well. To be honest, in
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the first I wasn't quite expecting them to be as
as competitive as they were undersea.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You loving seeing Ruby Tooy commentating.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Hey, that's again, it's going to be an entertainment for
us all the way British masters. Yeah, this one that's
struck me this morning. There's been a terrific story for
Kazuma Kabori working as well into the European tour over
the course of the year, et cetera. But he's come
up with us a share of second this morning, and
I suppose more importantly for his bank bounce more than
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half a million dollars, so five hundred and twenty three thousand.
Kazuma Kabori was in the Clubhouse lead at one stage,
but eventually pipped by a stroke by swede Alex Norrin.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
What's happening with the US Open?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So starting today the singles at least we had the
mixed doubles earlier on just one notable result. So for
Emma Radakaru, twenty twenty one champion is through in straight sets.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Nice one, Andrew, good to see you as always too,
right Ryan to the Raby updates this morning Andrew Ortison
was sport. It is twenty three minutes after five here
on news talks. There'd be coming up. Well, just the
dog attacks. You're saying that you would have seen the
stories and I now know of quite a few people
who've had been the experience them, either the their dogs
or themselves or both, which is even worse. Across the
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Tasman there's a big debate going on. It's the headline
I read at the weekend was quite funny. It was
like grandparents and parents turning and grandparents turning against parents,
I think was the headline. So the treasure over their charmers.
He wants to tackle into generational equality. You know, however,
government of the left wants to try and do this,
which is not exactly a bad thing potentially, but retirees
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over there get concessions on their super balances, so they
get a lower rate of taxation on their superannuation balances.
And they are worried. That is the more wealthy baby
boomers are worried that charmers is coming to raid their
super funds. So what they are doing already have announced
is that they will double that tax take on super
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balances if and it's only fifteen percent now, so we
go up to thirty percent. Will go sorry, we're double
from fifteen percent for balances of more than three million dollars.
So there's a big hohoha going on over there at
the moment, and it's come up at the productivity round
table and camera. I'll have one on that for you shortly.
It is twenty four after five the early.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
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Speaker 2 (14:23):
News Talks THEB. It is twenty six minutes after five.
I have had it with vicious dogs and they're useless owners.
How many more children and pets will we tolerate being
maimed and punctured to death before this actually gets taken seriously?
Another one at the weekend woman had his scalp ripped off.
It's awful stuff. I've personally had three people in my
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life and I'm just one person who've been out for
a walk with their wipups on a leash registered of course,
that'll cost you two hundred bucks, poop bags in hand,
doing all the right things, only to be attacked by
some absolutely vicious mongrel and I mean absolutely ripped to pieces,
punk wounds, Owners taken to the ground, blood everywhere, shock
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hospital visits for the humans', expensive vet bills for the animals.
If they are lucky to survive, the road to recovery
is long, and poor old pup never really shakes. The
anxiety norders the owner. You've seen photos and the news
of kids' faces that look like they've been through the butchers.
It's gruesome, awful stuff, and those injuries are with them
for life. In Auckland alone, last year three thousand attacks
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fifteen thousand roaming dogs reported. When doy else do you
call something a crisis? Then now council says they're cracking down,
clearly too slow, clearly not working. Dogs need to be
destroyed immediately. Owners need to be banned from owning. But
they're not. This is according to the victims. They say nap.
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They're just treated like they're victims too. And here's something
that I thought was interesting and looking into this yesterday.
If a dog is attacking you, or you witness a
dog attacking another person or another dog, legally, you can
destroy the dog in that moment. It's legal. If your
actions will stop that attack from continuing, you do have
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the right to seize or destroy the animal, which would
seem to be the safest. And when you look at
the outcomes and you look at the number, would be
a safer option if a dog is attacking a child,
wouldn't you say twenty eight minutes after five US talk?
There'd be nice to have your company on a Monday
morning the Pentagon. You know, we talked about this a
(16:32):
couple of weeks ago, how the US had given Ukraine
long range missiles and everyone was like, oh, that's fantastic.
You know, they will be able to strike deeper and
further into Russia. Well, it turns out this is according
to a Wall Street General report. Turns out that US
defense officials have blocked Ukraine from using them. They can
(16:53):
go up to three hundred k's inside Russia apparently has
blocked them from US because they want to get Pootin
around the table for talk. So they don't want Ukraine
firing too far into putin Land. Least you annoy him
and he doesn't come to the table. And there is
don't just hand these weapons over and say go for it.
It's all yours. There's sort of a chain of command.
(17:15):
They have to go upstairs and checks. So the Ukrainians
have to check with the Americans. Same with the British.
They have the same system. You have to check with them.
They look at the intelligence, they look at the aerial photographs,
they look at the targeting and then they say yeah
or nay. Thus far the US is saying nay. News
Talk said, be Gavin Gray out of the UK after.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
News Views and Views you trust to start your day.
It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof love
where you live.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
News Talk said, be more same, tell me thank good morning.
As prey far away from six on, news Talk said,
be Mark Mitchell is with US Police Minister before six o'clock.
Are our new bees up to scratch coming out of
police college? That's the question this morning after the more
senior officers. Well, they're not exactly raving about the new
(18:16):
bees coming out and the qualifications, the standards that have
been set. So we'll talk to him about that. Gavin
Gray's in the UK for us as well. It is
twenty four to six.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Bryan Bridge.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Jamie Cunningham with Danned News for us this morning. Jamie,
good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Tell us about Dunedin's local
alcohol policy. What's going on here?
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Yeah, well, the City Council will meet tomorrow to decide
whether to presco on a revised consultation document, following concerns
about last year's process. Now eighty five submissions were received
on the draft policy, but health officials, police and community
groups believe pre consultation was too limited. Now staff will
update research and begin fresh stakeholder engagement, with public consultation
(19:01):
set for next year, and the current policy in place
since twenty nineteen will remain until a revised version is finalized.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
How's your weather, Well, it's a.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
Pretty good day here in Donedin, fine with light wines
and a high of fourteen.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
All right, thank you, Jamie. Clear's and christ Church for
us this morning. Clear good morning, good morning. Now that
worries there about homelessness.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
Yeah, constant worries about homelessness here. This is after the
city councilor extended the abatement notice deadline for the ten
people who have been living on in the car park
of Avonside's Holy Trinity Church. They extended that about an
hour before the group was set to be kicked off
the land on Friday. A decision regarding compliance with that
notus is now expected later this week. The local city councilor,
(19:45):
Jake McLellan says it's still not an ideal housing situation.
He says the church car park is a band aid
over a problem stemming from the government tightening emergency housing
criteria and cutting funding, while fellow councilor Tyler Harrison Hunt
says it was a complex process for council staff who
were simply following the law. Party says an extension is
(20:07):
still a win for the community.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, how's your weather?
Speaker 11 (20:11):
Very frosty and very foggy in christ Church today. That
low cloud will hang around and then clear this afternoon.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
A high of twelve.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All right, take care Max and Wellington, Max, Good morning,
Good morning, Loafer's Lodge fire. This is a newtown. The
trial starts today. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 13 (20:27):
The trial of the man accused of murdering five people
in that hostel beginning today. This Newtown's Loafers Lodge, of course,
broke out into flames in May twenty twenty three, just
after midnight. The man accused of starting two fires at
the hostel, of one of which killed five people, another
of which did not fully develop. The trial was supposed
(20:47):
to happen last year, but was delayed by a year.
It is set to take five weeks now from today.
The man has name suppression, but we also understand he
may pursue a defensive insanity, so we should find that
out today. And then you've also got a separate to this,
a group of people responsible who were responsible for the
maintenance and management of Loafer's Lodge. They're also charged with manslaughter,
(21:08):
but not due to go on trial for at least
another year.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, now, two other news. How was Beervana?
Speaker 13 (21:17):
You know, I go to be a banner every year
and to me it's a litmus test of how well
I can handle my alcohol. And the answer this year
is depressingly well, I probably drank a lot of a
lot of alcohol and it turned out all right.
Speaker 14 (21:33):
So that's what you thought, And what are the people
around you think? Well, when you feel like the sober one.
I feel like right, how's it we there?
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Fine?
Speaker 13 (21:46):
Today in North Least fourteen the high central good one,
never good.
Speaker 12 (21:50):
Morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Now we've got a reinvented New Zealand Fashion Week. I'm
being in Auckland today.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
That's right. All the fashion lovers they're going to be
flocking to the waterfront today. That's the revival of New
Zealand Fashion Week. Obviously, the high flying designers like Karen Walker,
Kiddy Nathan, they're going to be returning to the runway,
showcasing collections to local and global audiences. We've also got
a lot of new emerging talent as well in the mix.
Liam Taylor now he's the board director, he's the fashion
(22:20):
landscape offers a blend of creativity and entrepreneurial spirit, you know,
because obviously Fashion Week has been you know, it took
a huge hit with COVID and it was postponed and
delayed and postponed and delayed again. So today in this
week should be I think there'll be a lot of
people turning out and they reckon too that the runway
is going to see a lot of world leading you
(22:40):
know this get up and go attitude that New Zealand
has in a strong style, great eye for style.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I should say, yeah, do.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You think Mike Wild be down there?
Speaker 12 (22:47):
Probably he'll be the front.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Row jeans and.
Speaker 12 (22:53):
Too old for wearing ripped jeans now that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I think he was too old twenty years ago.
Speaker 12 (22:59):
Well, I'm I shouldn't throw them under the bus, because
one day about a year ago, I came in with
ripped jeans on and he had ripped jeans on as well,
and I thought, oh my gosh, look at the aging
z b is What does that say about.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
A new trend? I was saying to my partner of
the weekend, because he got a new pair of pants
on Saturday and they're not jeans, they just like corteruroid things.
Speaker 12 (23:19):
But you must tell Mike he's got a poo poo that.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Oh really, I wore Corteroids to the movies yesterday because
they're quite comfortable. Oh okay, you know the material is
quite soft, yes, so if you if you're stretching out
with them on a plane or on them into the movies,
because it's quite quite a nice fabric. But anyway, he
bought a new pair of pants and they've all got
the flat sort of wide bottom lease. Yes, the skinny
(23:43):
jeans out the window, isn't it?
Speaker 12 (23:45):
I like that the flid. Look what kind of shoes
did your partner have on?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He had white, sort of big chunky white ones.
Speaker 12 (23:51):
Oh, it's quite trendy.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Like lesbians used to wear in the nineties. They probably
still do. How's the weather?
Speaker 8 (24:00):
What sll is?
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Sixteen?
Speaker 12 (24:05):
I can't for read sixteens a high.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Have a great morning. They're good to see you and enjoy.
New Zealand Fashion Week kicks off at Awkan's Waterfront today.
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Speaker 2 (25:34):
Youth Talk tob it is fourteen minutes away from six.
Mark Mitchell nets. Gavin Gray now our UK europe correspondent
and a big overhaul coming for asylum seeker appeals in
the UK.
Speaker 15 (25:45):
Gavin, that's right, Ryan, Yes, and the government I think
really responding to this growing anger and unease on the
streets about asylum seekers. And they're being housed in hotels
with food and money and director links to doctors and
so forth. And there have been some protests both that
yesterday's Saturday our time and today outside hotels that are
(26:08):
being used to house migrants. And so the government has
announced is to set up a new independent body staffed
by independent adjudicators to hear cases more quickly. Now at
the moment, thirty two thousand asylum seekers are housed in hotels.
That's slightly down on what it has been and it
currently takes just over a year for an appeal to
(26:28):
be heard. There are fifty one thousand cases awaiting a decision,
and that affecting something like about eighty five to ninety
thousand people, because sometimes a single case involves an entire family. Now,
during the time they are waiting this over a year,
the average, they are often accommodated at the taxpayer's expense,
and that is what people are getting. So I write
(26:50):
about the Conservatives, the previous administration said the government is
in chaos. Reform UK that's Nigel Faraj's party which is
riding high on the polls says there must be mass
deportation by those arriving by illegal or irregular routes. That
is the only way to stop it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Devin, appreciate your time this morning. Devin Gray are UK
europe Correspondent, twelve minutes away from six. And by the
way I was hearing at the weekend, it's not just
you know, Nigel Farage is sort of making massive inroads.
He has overtaken the Conservatives and it's all to do
with migration and the asylum seekers that even in some
super safe labor seats they are flirting with Farage because
(27:29):
they are so worried about it. Now twelve away, Bryan Bridge,
We've got trouble with new police recruits. A survey of
senior officers released to The Herald says graduates are barely
equipped to arrest or laid charges. Eighty three percent of
respondents reckon that they can't even handle the paperwork properly.
Mark Mitchell is Police Minister and joins me now, Minister,
good morning, take good warning. Ryan. Are we pumping out
(27:51):
half baked cops?
Speaker 8 (27:54):
No?
Speaker 9 (27:54):
I don't think we're definitely not pumping at half baked
police officers, but it's always been the case that they do. Obviously,
they do their twenty weeks. Now I return, I increase
the courses from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks as Zenoy Minister,
and then they have two years probationary where they get
to all the on the job supervision and training that
(28:15):
they need to become world class police officers. And we
have a world class police service, has no doubt about that.
It's good that the police are always testing themselves, that
they're having honest conversations, that they're identifying where there needs
to be improvement. My expectation is where they identify that
then they make the changes.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Is fifty five percent of the senior officers feeling that
the new bees were barely or not at all well
equipped with knowledge of the procedures for making an arrest
and laying charges world class.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Well, you're talking about probationary constables. You're talking about constibles
that are coming out on the job. See, your policing
is a very unique job where you have to test,
where you get tested, and a whole range of areas,
physically making decisions under pressure, all that sort of thing.
It's unrealistic to expect them to come out being experienced
police officers. They are rookies. They need strong supervision, they
need guidance when they come out on the street. They're
(29:10):
probasary constables for two years, so they're still been tested
for another two years once they graduated from the college.
But the good thing is that is that they're identified
so that our senior field trainers who absolutely provide critical
feedback to the college. It's saying that there's some areas
that need will focus my expectations, the police will recognize
(29:31):
that and I'll make the changes. When I was in opposition,
I was highlighting this and continually with the previous government
not to drop standards, to maintain standards. As the income
and government, we had a big focus on that. Yes
we had a target set, but if I was solely
focused on the target, I wouldn't have increased the training
course from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
But yeah, but you also minised to increase the wing
size from eighty to one hundred. You do have a
with New Zealand first, but it's not correct. That's not
correct right. The wing sizes are not one hundred. Every
wing size size it was like that, well, some of
them are seventy. Some of them are less, some of
them are more. But so you didn't you didn't move
(30:13):
to increase the wing size.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
We moved to increase the capacity of the college to
be able to train fund so you saw, Yes, of
course we funded it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So the mass of funding, it's the problem here with
the training or with the candidates that are getting in,
because we know there's been problems there too. Well.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
You know that there's been a big focus on standards
and quality of training by this government. You know that
we're not going to compromise. We've been very clear and
said we're not going to compromise on the settings of targets.
We want to deliver five hundred aditional plus.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
If a result of that, it's not a great outcome,
is it. I mean, yes, we want more cops, but
we want more good cops. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Absolutely, And I just want to say again that come
along to a graduation meet. These police officers are some
of the best. We've got to put themselves forward for
service and difficult service.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Media senior officers saying this about them.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Then, because the places as an organization that tests it
souf hard. They realize that they have to maintain the
higher standards. That's exactly what the field officers are doing.
They're guiding them, they're training them, but they're making sure
they identify where.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
We could be doing better.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
In any organization should be looking for continual improvement. The
police is no different. In fact, it's critically important for
the police. Yes, as the Income Administer, I recognized the
fact that we needed to work on standards on trading.
That's why as the incoming minister, I supported moving our
recruit training course from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks. I
(31:43):
increased that by four weeks. That wasn't going to help
us deliver our five hundred, but I found it was
very important to do in terms of standards.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Mark wint Or, Police Minister. Time is eight minutes away
from six news talks.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
They've been the news you need this morning and the
in depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bread and One
Room Love where.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You Live news talks. That'd be it is five away
from six yr on news talks. There'd be Mike's in
the studio. He's here next of course, Mike, good morning,
good morning. Now you've got the Prime Minister on this morning.
Always what do you reckon? Do you just hold to
hold out. I spoke to Stephen Joyce about this the
other day. You know there's pressure. There's Simon Bridges saying
you go in and spend more and borrow and you
need cuts for Auckland. You just hold the line, do
(32:24):
you with your plan?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Well, of course you do, because the moment you start
up the specialist treatment, you set a precedent. And so
if Auckland needs help today, it will be christ Dutch
next week, and then it'll be Wellington. And if it
is Auckland, why didn't you do Wellington when we had
the public service cuts and so on and so forth.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And then you undermine your whole argument of getting into
government in the first place, don't you. It's the point.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Although I note with interest, we're doing something on the
hotels this morning, and so I saw a story, very
interesting story of the weekend. Now the problem is Auckland,
for example, So the guy from Sedema was saying, we're desperate,
we need more events and we've got all these assets
lying empty. But the problem with Auckland is who built
the hotels, wasn't the government? People buy bill hotels because
(33:03):
they're you know, bullish about the market and they want
to back themselves and invest in a building. So apparently
Auckland's got too many hotels, so who's faults that? Whereas
Queenstown doesn't have enough hotels space. So do you have
a centralized system whereby people go, look you need three there,
two down there and let's make it even or do
you let the market do what the market?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Do you let the market does precisely?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
What I want to know more importantly, though, Ryan, is
if you saw the Prime Minister yesterday, what's his fascination
with Highber's best special gun boots and glasses. The guy
had a spade and he was breaking ground.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
He was digging.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
It wasn't even digging a whole, he was breaking ground.
And the guy had a high Ver's vest and gum
boots and safety glasses.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Why can't you be a little bit more like Winston
We you say no, I won't wear that.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Mate, I've got a spade. We're not drilling, you know
the center of the earth for oil because it's photo ops.
Isn't it that you have a photo op without safety glass?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Mark Mitchell and jacket every time it rains, he's got
a Nima jacket.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
I don't know anyway, you're right, the prim Miss Australian.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
All Right, look forward to it. Mike is next, have
a fantastic Monday and I'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
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