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May 26, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, Full Show Podcast Tuesday the 27th of May 2025, Retail NZ's Ann Marie Johnson tells Ryan Bridge why they've has called for an urgent meeting with Police Minister Mark Mitchell after Police were told to no longer investigate allegations of shop lifting below $500. 

Greyhound racing New Zealand are calling for a judicial review into the Government's decision to ban the sector, Greyhound trainer Craig Roberts shares what the ban will mean for him.

Federated Farmers are warning of declining sheep numbers, Associate Agriculture Minister Andrew Hoggard tells Ryan Bridge what this means from a Government stand point. 

Ryan Bridge shares his thoughts on Winston Peters ruling out working with Chris Hipkins. 

Plus, Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio has the latest on a snap ban on machetes in Victoria after a violent brawl in a suburban shopping centre.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge
on early edition with one roof make your Property Search
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be good morning. It is six half to five
year on news Talks, it'd be Tuesday the twenty seventh.
Have made great to have your company. So the question
this morning is will the police investigate if something that's
of low value less than five hundred dollars is stolen.
We'll have a retail inz on the program just before
six trying to answer. I tell you it is a
messy situation of their own making. I have to say

(00:35):
Mercis is the German chancellor. He's saying go for it
to Ukraine. Europe stepping up this morning with longer range
missiles to go at Russia. We'll talk about that. Also,
Farmers up in arms, even though they don't like carbon farms.
We know that. But what's happening is pigs, stoaks, dere
all sorts are festering in there and coming across the

(00:56):
border into their farmland and harming it. So we'll have
Andrew Hongard on the program too. Donald de Maya in Australia.
The agenda Tuesday the twenty seven to my Trump's not
happy with Posen, He's called them absolutely crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
What Putin's doing is killing a lot of people. And
I don't know what the hell happened to Putin. I've
known him a long time, always gotten along with him,
but he's sending rockets into cities and killing people, and
I don't like it at all.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay, so he's still threatening further sanctions, and as I said,
the Europeans are stepping up. We'll get to that in
a sick Meanwhile, the EU off the hook for now
for tariffs until the July the ninth. Last week, Trump
thretten to raise the terriff right on most e goods
to fifty percent. But that was just, you know, the
art of the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I don't believe for a second that the EU will
be willing to accept a similar trade deal to the
one that Trump struck with the British government, which basically
enabled Trump to impose higher tariffs on British exports for
very little, if any real chat. That won't work with you.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
More Israeli shelling on Gaza Overnight, fifty four Palestinians killed,
most of them in a school building sheltering.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
It was indescribable, buddy parts, short bodies, the smell of burning,
a squea to God, our hearts of dy.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now Over in Liverpool in the UK, they're going nuts,
hundreds of thousands in the streets celebrating their twentieth top
flight football title.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
We're going to have this river of red flowing down
to the Mersey and this explosion of joy and celebration
as those Liverpool players show off that Premier League trophy.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Ryan Bridge on the edition with one roof make your
Property Search Simple, youth dog.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Zibby Good morning. So we'll start with Frederick Mertz. This
is Mertz rhymes with skirts, by the way, is the
German chancellor. Now he has come out and said overnight
that any long range missile that you crane wants to
use to fire at Russia, go for it. Now. Whether
they'll actually back that up with the weapons that Ukraine

(03:07):
has been asking for. There's a Taurus missile that they've
been wanting to get their hands on from the Germans
in particular. It's got a range of five hundred kilometers.
Whether they will give them those we don't know. But
what we do know is the Lenski's heading to Berlin,
which is probably a good sign from his perspective. So
that where the British did this, Remember last year November

(03:29):
last year, they said, I will give you our shadow missiles.
They're the longer range ones. You want to get further
inside Russian start pounding them where it hurts. So the
Brits allowed that. Now the Germans have done the same,
The French have already done the same. So basically the
West is saying Russia, we're coming for you, which is interesting,
isn't it, because they were a little soft footed just

(03:50):
a few weeks back. I'll give you some sanctions and
we'll put a deadline, and then they never met the deadline.
Now they're saying, hey, there's some big long range missiles.
They're coming your way. Persent. Oh, the Krewmen's already responded
saying this is a quote dangerous move, but maybe it'll
be maybe it'll force their hand. Ten after five. Now
the police situation, so obviously the police can't go to

(04:11):
every call out every time a lollipop gets stolen from
a dairy. You can't send a police officer with a taser,
even though you'd like to. But that's come out with
this directive, and they've said, even if there are lines
of inquiry, anything under five hundred bucks is basically fine.
I mean, if someone steals a tank of gas, even

(04:32):
if there are positive lines of inquiry, they're not going
to investigate. And then they came on the radio yesterday
and said, oh no, we might investigate if there's CCTV
footage availer. Basically if someone else has done half the
job for us, if we know the number played or
this CCTV or something like that. I mean, no, you
cannot have every tiny little incident and crime investigated. But

(04:55):
this is a This has got to be a bad look,
not just for police but for Mark Mitchell. What they
did over in Los Angeles, over in California when they said, oh,
I know, you can basically get away with anything under
eight hundred bucks, and they did. People came into the
shops and just filled their boots. It's not a great
look for them, is it. Nine two eleven after five.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof make your Property
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Speaker 2 (05:25):
Newstalk said the five point thirteen on your Tuesday Morning
over an Australia Health Scope is a company, a private
hospital operator, and it's just collapsed. It's gone on to
receiver ship. They've got nineteen thousand star thirty seven hospitals.
Get this though responsible. This is a private hospital operator
responsible for seventy percent of all elective surgeries and a

(05:47):
quarter of all births in Australia, private hospitals. And we
moan here about the role of a private hospital in
our health system. Well, they seem to be getting away
with it quite fine. No government bailout, by the way
for this company. They've got enough cash on hand, they've
got some extra lending from the banks. They reckon they
was sell the hospitals. Lots of buyers came fourteen after five.
Rich farmers fuming this morning. They say carbon farms have

(06:10):
been harboring pests like stoats, possums, feral pegs, deer coming
onto their land and harming livestock with no accountability. There's
a new campaign out to as save our sheep. Andrew
Hoggard is the Associate Agriculture Minister with me this morning. Andrew,
good morning, Come on, all right, hey, what's happening with
the pests coming across?

Speaker 7 (06:31):
I mean it's being growing problem over the last three
or four years, and quite frankly, I think go back
to the COVID lofty in it just seemed like there
was a explosion in pest numbers across firms. On seeing
more and more deer on my place than I ever
did before, and so a combination of people not going
out hunting just allowed lots of breeding. And I think

(06:53):
in terms of the you know, those forestry blocks swing,
I'm going to have a look into. And we're redoing
the Biosecurity Act at the moment, and I know in
the old Act there was always a duty of a
landowner to maintain control pests within their boundary and make
sure they're not going across their boundary to other people's property.
So I'll take a double look at what we're proposing

(07:14):
there as to whether or not that needs to be
strengthened up.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
So you would potentially put more onus on the carbon
farmers to look after the deer and the peaces and
the stoats and everything on their land so that it
doesn't go and annoy everybody else.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean definitely, I mean that's part of the
deal would be, you know, you look after you're responsible
for what happens on your property, and you should not
be exporting problems from across your property to your neighbors.
To your duty as a landowner to control your what's
happening in your property, make sure those problems don't go

(07:49):
across what's the.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Fin what happens at the moment, if that's found to have.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
Happened basically from memory, and I've only ever heard about
this in terms of weed pests. You know, the regional
council might come by and say, hey, you've got too
many thistles or whatever on your property. You need to
go and manage them. I don't think, to be honest,
that it's something up until this point that's ever really

(08:15):
been a big well acted or look or looked at
even or taken seriously. So you know, potentially this is
something we do need to look into.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
A lot of what could you do? I mean obviously
it would probably be hard to will presumably be quite
hard to prove.

Speaker 7 (08:31):
H I mean, yeah, that would be something would need
to have a look into. I mean you can easily
do counts of animals and go, well, look there's a
truckload of pigs here. You need to This has become
a problem and you can see the damage that there's
been occurring on neighboring property and you know, make some
sort of slap them with a fine, l fine or

(08:52):
just a direction that they need to take care of
these pests and invest in getting hunters into remove these pests.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Is the expansion of carbon farms the reason that this
save our Sheep campaign is getting underway.

Speaker 7 (09:08):
I think it's part of the reason. Another part is
the I believe concerned about what might be happening in
terms of methane targets. But yeah, we haven't had those
discussions between parties yet as to what those targets may
well be. So I think they're probably putting a stake

(09:29):
in the ground.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
When are those chats happening?

Speaker 8 (09:33):
Not sure.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
I'm not the one that is required to have The
other ministers have to chat with me, not the other
way around. So I am waiting with baited breath.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
You're waiting to be chatted at. Yeah, you appreciate your
time this morning. Take here, Andrew Hoggart, who's the Associate
Agriculture Minister. It is eighteen after five. You're on news Talk, said.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
B get ahead of the headlines on early edition with
Ryan Bridge and one roof make your property search simple
news Dogs it'd.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Be Roger has texted the program twenty after five Morning, Ryan,
I had a trailer and three boats stolen from BP
three months ago. Supplied the CCTV of the vehicle, et cetera.
Total value was eight thousand dollars. Nothing was done about it.
Well there you go, Well eight thousand dollars nothing done?
What hope you have a five hundred or less? Now?
Greyhound Racing New Zealand is started the proceedings for a

(10:21):
judicial review into this ban on the sector. Industry of
leaders say Winston Peters has not once consulted on them
about the policy they announced in December. They say a
thousand people's livelihoods will be affected. Nearly three thousand dogs
need to be re honed by twenty twenty six. Craig
Roberts is a greyhound trainer with us this morning. Craig,
good morning, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:40):
Good morning, Ryan, Good morning listeners.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
How long have you been doing this?

Speaker 8 (10:45):
A very long time, Ryan, over forty years?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
And is this your livelihood?

Speaker 8 (10:53):
Yes, it is that. Obviously it started off as a
hobby because Bake, when I started in greyhound racing, you'd
win a ribbon in about twenty five dollars. So over
the years, as the sport's growing and become part of
the tab I've been lucky enough to be able to
earn a living and it's been my lifestyle and my

(11:16):
whole family's lifestyle ever since.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
How many dogs you got, Craig, I sort of I.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
Sort of hover around thirty five to forty race dogs
and try to have about twenty five to thirty racing.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
And what are you going to do with them all?

Speaker 8 (11:39):
Well, we're going to well, of course, this is all.
If the band comes into force on the first of
August twenty twenty six, it will be about two and
a half thousand to three thousand dogs to ree home.
We will we will be making sure that they do

(12:00):
find homes, and it will be a long, long process
of possibly up to three to four years. But if
the band does go ahead, those greyhounds will be well
looked after and they will be here with us until
they find homes.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
You've got your judicial review underway. Can you understand why
pub maybe people who are n't involved in greyhound raising,
why people don't like it?

Speaker 8 (12:29):
Yes, well I can. My opinion on that is that
they have been fed a lot of misinformation and exaggeration
of statistics from a small group of people that are
very vigilant and very aggressive in the deliverance of their

(12:51):
hatred of greyhound racing.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
How many dogs have died under your watch in your
forty years or.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
Injured of my own, probably through through racing injuries over
forty years. I wouldn't even I'd have to have an
add up, but it wouldn't be it would be single figures,

(13:18):
put it that way. But there have there have been
dogs that have suffered injuries. Obviously. I've got a beautiful
ten year old, beautiful bed white and brindle male. He
hit his leg when he was about three years old.
He's lived a fantastic like he was us. He's he

(13:41):
got operated on, he recovered, happy as there he's now.
He's there or I think he's about eleven years old now.
And there's hundreds of those sort of cases, thousands probably
over that many years. But you know, most, probably ninety

(14:01):
five percent of the injuries that are recorded for greyhounds
are not serious injuries. They are just injuries that prevent
them from racing for a short period of time and
then they then they retraverl from that and they get
back into the ratio.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I'm back at it, Craig. I appreciate you coming on
the program. That's Craig Roberts, greyhound trainer and a board
member with Greyhound Racing New Zealand. It's worth one hundred
and fifty nine million dollars to the economy every year.
He pays his butcher by the way, seven to ten
grand a week for meat, and half of the local
vets clients are racing dogs. So it's going to have
a big impact. And twenty twenty six is the end date,

(14:41):
basically twenty five minutes after five or talk more about Chippy,
Labor and what Winston has said about the next the early.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
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Speaker 2 (14:54):
News Talks B. It is twenty seven minutes after five.
So Winston has definitively he ruled out working with Labour,
not just Chippy but Labor. He had, of course, already
pretty much done this earlier in the year after his
State of the Nation address in which he called the
Labour leadership a bunch of liars and unreformed losers. Remember that,
but this is crystal clear out he's spoken to Thomas

(15:15):
Coglan at the Herald and its affirm Nah no, he's
holding up that sign. This is interesting for two reasons. One,
Winston's a political wizard. We know this. He knows how
to read the room and play the game. This is
not a random outburst from Winnie. This is a calculated
decision based on the path he thinks will get New
Zealand first back to the Treasury benches in twenty twenty six.

(15:37):
By virtue of ruling them out, he has reduced his
bargaining power, which is not an outcome that a kingmaker
like him takes lightly. The key to his success on
the campaign trail has always been as much about what
he stands against as what he stands for. Think immigration,
think treaty issues. He's decided that in twenty twenty six,
the punching bag will be a three headed clown show

(16:00):
marriage of the Greens, Labor and to Party Mardi. He's
read the room and he's picked his side. In twenty
twenty three, Winston ruled out Labor before Chippy definitively ruled
out Winston. Remember that our Chippy has yet to do
the same for twenty twenty six, and he's now missed
his chance and any moral high ground that went with it. Remember,

(16:23):
Hipkins must appeal to a base that despises the anti
woke agenda that Winston pedals. This year alone, he's labeled
him a pale version of Donald Trump, a conspiracy theorist,
a spokesman for the tobacco lobby, you name it, and
Hipkins's failure to rule out working with him kind of
undermines the high horse that he canters around the Parliament
on his approtestations now will sound rather hollow. So it's interesting,

(16:49):
isn't it, Winston, not just for Chippy but for labor.
It is a hard no. Ryan bredg twenty nine after
five year on Newstalk said, would love your feedback nine
two nine two. When something gets stolen it's worth less
than five hundred bucks. Who you're gonna call? We'll look
at that. Just before six, Donald demo out of Australia

(17:09):
and our reporters. Next on news Talk said ban.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
You on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition
with Ryan Bridge and one roof make your property search simple.
News Talk said, Bill.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Is twenty four minutes away from sexier. On news Talk
said b elon Musk is moving a lot of resource
to try and get to Marsie rickens, he'll have the
starship rocket ready for Mars by next year. Did we
believe that anyway? He's diverting resources, huge resources from other

(18:10):
projects to go towards this. There are going to test
an experimental vehicle sometime today, So we'll make sure we
keep you across that. It's always quite interesting to at
least watch it. Isn't it so ready for a Mars
mission by next year. In recent months, employees have been
moving into starship roles, including some Dragon Space Spacecraft staffers

(18:30):
who were reassigned in mid May. This is according to
people familiar with the matter. It's SpaceX. There's Elon must
fix this morning. So many texts about police not following
up on shoplifting or what so called minor thefts. Ryan,
you can steal anything you want from Facebook marketplace these days.
I made a report from art and valued over two

(18:52):
thousand dollars, but the police said they don't look into
marketplace fraud. I even had security camera footage, Ryan, and
just say your stuff was worth five hundred and one dollars.
It's not a bad idea because how do they know? Yeah,
just lie. I mean, you don't want to lie to
the police, But then if you need to do something

(19:13):
to get their attention, don't you. The problem is if
you don't think that they are going to do anything
about it, you won't report it. And if you don't
report it, we don't know how bad crime is. And
what happens when we don't know how bad or we
don't feel like police are doing something about crime. We
take matters into our own hands, don't we. Oh, we
fly to Mars twenty two away from six Bryan Bridge

(19:35):
Colum is our first reporter up this morning and Dunedan Culum,
Good morning to you. You've got a new study on
high rates of prescription opioid use for pregnant women. Good morning, Ryan.
This report's quite alarming.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
It was co authored by Otaga University researchers and it
ranks New Zealand third out of thirteen high income countries,
with eight percent of pregnancies here being exposed to opioids.
That compares with four percent in Canada and just zero
point four percent in the.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
UK, so we're quite high.

Speaker 9 (20:06):
Researchers say the findings are unexpected and the risks of
these drugs need to be better considered. They say opioids
increased risks of adverse outcomes such as pre term birth
and low birth weight, are breathing problems and also neuro
develop mental conditions.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
All right, how's your weather today.

Speaker 9 (20:22):
It's mostly cloudy for us with northeasterlies today. The high
fourteen brilliant.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Thank you and clear. Sorry, Claire is in christ Church clear.

Speaker 10 (20:30):
Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
So what's this about the Quantus awards. You guys have
done well well.

Speaker 11 (20:36):
No, we've got a big announcement in relation to Quantus.
So the airline's going to operate seven additional weekly flights
between christ Church and Sydney and up to three extra
between christ Church and Melbourne over the summer period, so
from mid December to late January. It's just another sign
of positive things for us down here. It comes on
the back of Singapore Airlines adding an extra forty six

(20:56):
return flights over that same peak summer season. Christ Church
Airport of course very excited about this. They say the
new flights have been timed to connect seamlessly with other
international services so people can continue on to the likes
of Asia or Europe. While the chief executive, Justin Watson says,
of course the extra flights are a win for our tourism,
trade and travel. More flights mean more visitors, which means

(21:20):
more spending and of course more benefits for our economy.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh great, excellent news. Clear how's your weather.

Speaker 11 (21:27):
Cloudy periods with a bit of fog about early northeasterlies
as we make our way to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Thank you in Max's and Wellington, Max, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Just off the back of what Claire said, five extra
flights to and from Wellington Sydney over the summer as well.
So qantas also boosting its Wellington presence as well.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's great. I think picking up some of the slack
perhaps from me in New Zealand, because in New Zealand
pulled out of some was it Brisbane christ Church routes. Yeah,
so this is great. It's good people are stepping under
fill the void. Max. What's going on with the council
wage bill?

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Front page of the Post today. The consultant costs for
the city council here more than double in five years,
the overall wage bill up forty percent. What's really bleak
is this is despite them cutting more than one hundred
and twenty employees last year. A lot of gravy on
this train. In twenty twenty seventeen people were paid over
two hundred k a year. That's now thirty nine and

(22:18):
yet there's still the need to spend fifty nine million
dollars in the last financial year on consultants. Apparently, the
council's argument is these salary and wage increases just reflect
the increased investment in the city, the increased delivery of services.
I wonder if Wellingtonians feel like they're being forty percent
more listened to councilor Nicolay Young calls that municipal bloat.
Tony Randall told the Post the council's refusal to look

(22:41):
at staffing and efficiency levels only kicks the can down
the road. The government's eye firmly on the council this
financial year.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
How's your weather?

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Cloudy this morning but improving seventeen the high Thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
And never with us. Good morning, you're rating Now this
woman who got the money in new bank account in
when and spent it ghost on to her boyfriend. She's
been charged.

Speaker 12 (23:03):
Yes, that is the update. So this is good news.
So this was this theft after allegedly receiving one hundred
and fifty eight thousand dollars due to that account era
that you mentioned, Ryan So seventy eight year old Mount
Roskill pensioner Andrew chi st Bong. He says, when entering
the payment instructions, he accidentally missed out one digit, meaning

(23:23):
all his life's savings landed in the wrong account. Now,
when the mistake was realized, Westpac immediately frozy account and
was able to recover about twenty eight thousand. But yes,
it's alleged to the woman who partners spent thousands of dollars. Yes,
you're quite right, cars, cash transfers and money sent overseas
to relatives. So we now know that the pair have
both been charged and summons to a peer in the

(23:45):
Auckland District Court next week.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
So that's good news.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
That is good news. How's our weather today and everybody?

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Well?

Speaker 12 (23:51):
Yeah, last night wet and wet again today, rain heavy
at times, easy to a few showers. This morning fine
spells apparently later in the date ninety is the high here.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
In Auckland, brilliant, Thank you, Neva. It is eighteen minutes
away from Sex. You wouldn't let anyone get away with
stealing stuff with Geneva. Even if it's dressed some five
hundred bucks, you chase them through the Superman. That's the
kind of cop I want. Eighteen away from Sex News talk,
here be Donald Demo out of Australian.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Exit, International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
We'll talk about the low value theft in just a
second before sex. Right now it's quarter two and Donald Mayo,
not Donald de Mayo, is with us out of Australia.
Don a good morning, good morning to you. Now you've
got a snap ban on machete in Victoria. Is this
is the violent brawl that we've seen in the in
the shopping center.

Speaker 13 (24:45):
Yes, so from tomorrow you can no longer purchase a
machete in Victoria. And that does follow that vicious brawl
in the shopping center in the Melbourne suburb of Preston.
Now two teenagers sixteen and fifteen years old are alleged
to be the main offenders. They were both on BA
at the time. The skirmish was between rival gangs. It's
understood and as you can imagine shoppers going about their

(25:07):
business on a Sunday afternoon, we're left scurrying for safety,
absolutely petrified as to what was going on there. And
now four mails have been charged. Police are still looking
for three others. But the government has introduced this snap
ban on the sale of machetes from midday tomorrow and
the police say that there's three machetes that have been

(25:28):
seized and a total of four is believed to have
been used in the brawl. So the Premier has come
out and said these knives have no place on our streets.
So these laws will get these dangerous weapons off the streets,
according to the Premiere, and they've moved as quickly as
possible and in her words, we must never let the

(25:49):
places we gather, where families shop and enjoy the peace
of their weekend, become places that we fear.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Well, yeah that's true. But once they just use something else,
what are you going to do? I hope not baseball bats?
You know what I mean. I suppose it's a reaction,
isn't it. Hey? You were yes? What about this guy
in Bali with the drugs chargers charges? Pretty major?

Speaker 13 (26:14):
Absolutely, There's an Australian man who's from Sydney, Lamar Aaron Atchi.
He could face the death penalty for allegedly smuggling one
point eight kilos of cocaine in Bali. The forty three
year old was arrested.

Speaker 14 (26:26):
He was.

Speaker 13 (26:29):
Presented to the media, let's say, in an orange jumpsuit
and black balaclava yesterday. We know that the police believed
the drugs, estimated to be worth about one point one
million dollars, were imported to Indonesia disguised as would you
believe linked chocolates in two separate packages. They arrived from
the UK allegedly. Now we have heard from the Australian

(26:49):
Department of Front Affairs that they are providing consular assistance,
but there's no actual charges being laid yet, so we're
waiting to hear. Police don't believe that mister Archi was
the mastermind. They say he promised around four thousand, seven
hundred Ousie dollars to pick up the packages.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's a raw death deal for him, isn't it. Donna,
thank you for that. Appreciate your time. Don a demo
our Australia correspondent. It is twelve minutes away from six
Retailing Z's calling for an urgent meeting with Mark Mitchell.
This after police were told to no longer investigate allegations
of shoplifting below five hundred bucks. The directive was sent
out in March, it was leaked. Police say they will

(27:27):
continue to investigate reports if there are avenues of inquiry
to explore.

Speaker 8 (27:33):
And my team alone deal with one point twenty five million. Now,
that is ninety thousand census every single month.

Speaker 14 (27:40):
Now, the reality is we just can't get to that now.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
That was on drive last night. A Marie Johnson as
Retailing Z manager of Advocacy Advice and commons she's with
me now and Ree, good morning, Laurena. Have you got
your meeting with Mitchell yet?

Speaker 14 (27:54):
We've certainly been in touch with his office and at
the moment where it's just trying to coordinate diaries.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Can you under stand this because on the one hand,
they say, even if there are lines of inquiry, we
won't look into this if it's less than five hundred bucks.
Then you had them last night saying well, if there's
CCTV and other evidence, then maybe we will.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (28:15):
Look, I think the police have clarified their position and
that's certainly helpful. You know, retailers know that police aren't
going to show up to this small very minor case
of shop listing, but we certainly want to know that
they're taking these crimes seriously and that where they can,

(28:36):
they will be following up and resting. Often there are
peace offenders, so we know who they are and police
know who they are, so we want to particularly focus
on those people.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Retail crime's worth about two point six billion every year.
What's the average value of an item stolen? Do you
think would it be less than five hundred bucks?

Speaker 14 (28:58):
Well, look, I don't know the average value, but it
can be. But you know a lot of things, A
lot of five hundred dollars items over time add up
to a lot, and so you know, it's kind of
lease the value of the items and the more of
the impact that it has on the retailers and their staff,

(29:18):
and especially over time, you know, coming to work every
day not knowing what you're going to be coming up against,
and that's that's tough.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
And the worst part about all of this, of course,
is we're talking about it. It's in the news, and
if you are a criminal, you'll be going sweet, I
can as so long as I don't leave any evidence,
Like we're a beanie and a hoodie. Then if it's
less than five hundred bcs. Basically I'm off scot free.

Speaker 14 (29:43):
Well, like I say, a lot of the time, we
know who they are, the police know who they are,
and from what police are saying now, they are going
to collect the information and use that to build up
a case. So we're certainly encouraging our members to keep
on reporting all crimes.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
And we need pa Ry, do you think we need
you know how we've got judges, but then we have jps.
Do you think we need an equivalent for the police
for low level crime where you know, police are obviously busy,
they've got murders and things to solve. But if they
had if they had delegated powers to some you know,

(30:23):
I don't know, some older gentlemen who might be retired
and looking for something to do.

Speaker 14 (30:29):
Oh, I think you're straying into very dangerous territory there, Ryan,
When you start talking about vigilante justice and that type
of thing, don't you well enough?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't know. I'm not saying they go around shooting people,
but maybe just maybe just investigating where the police can't
because I mean, otherwise, as you say, two point six
billion dollars and I reckon most a lot of thefts.
And by the way, forty percent of retailers don't even
report the thefts. Most of those thefts would be for
less than five hundred dollars, So that means that most

(31:00):
retail crime probably wouldn't get either reported or investigated. And
you wonder way you got a problem? Eight to Sex
News Talk, said B.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
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Speaker 2 (31:20):
The Sex on News Talk said B. Mike is in
the studio. You wouldn't have to worry about anything less
worth less than five hundred dollars being stolen because you
wouldn't own anything with less than five hundred dollars.

Speaker 10 (31:29):
Oh, very good, right, very good.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Someone's going to pinch your Porsche. The cops are going
to care about that.

Speaker 10 (31:35):
How many insurance claims have you made over the years?

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Maybe two?

Speaker 10 (31:41):
See I made one and it was for a potted
plant about thirty years ago. A potted plant. Well, it
was an outdoor hanging plant, like you know the outdoors
when you.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Have like a porch. Was it made of gold?

Speaker 10 (31:51):
No, it wasn't. And that was the funny thing. At
the time, I thought, this is I've never claimed it.
This particular point in time, I thought, I paid insurance
all these years and I've never claimed anything. This potted
plant got nicked, and so I thought, I'm going to
claim for this, and I did, and then I thought,
that's ridiculous, How stupid is that? And I've never claimed
for insurance ever on anything ever since.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
When I say me, I mean actually my partner who's
done it for jewelry and sunglasses?

Speaker 10 (32:16):
Sunglasses sunglasses like nice ones were they?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I don't get the nice ones. I have the cheap
ones because I'll break them. Yeah, but he wears quite
nice ones. But I have personally never made it a
claim myself, because don't you lose your no claims?

Speaker 10 (32:30):
But well, you see, that's the interesting thing, because I
know a lot of people who don't take health insurance anymore.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
What do you do have health insurance? What do you
pay for?

Speaker 10 (32:38):
What do you pay for health insurance?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
That's that's my partner question.

Speaker 10 (32:42):
Hundreds And I pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars a
month for I mean, look at me, I mean, come on,
you back me, wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
You what you want me to say?

Speaker 10 (32:56):
You don't look like a guy who needs any work. No,
My point being I know a lot increasing number of
people who put up money aside, and so in other words,
that does yeah, and so therefore that just adds up,
adds up, adds up, and adds up. And so if
something does go wrong, you play the cash.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
If you're young and you've got a mortgage, then it's
worth having. Well, this is what I get told is
worth having income protection, assurance, your health.

Speaker 10 (33:17):
I mean we do you have anything to do with
your life at all?

Speaker 7 (33:20):
Not?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Really? No, so say no, everything is taken care of
by my care.

Speaker 10 (33:27):
Are you still an a Veda? Do you like it
there in the in the.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Special community make nice meals? Now?

Speaker 10 (33:34):
How did this know a crime? Did that have anything
to do with crime or what we were doing? Anyway,
we'll have a look at your five hundred dollars thing
later on the swngest life stone and a couple of
good people doing good business things in this country.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I reckon we need more step in. Your pin would
be worth more than five hundred pin today.

Speaker 10 (33:49):
What do you reckon that's worth? Honestly, it looks like
a thousand dollars pin seventeen hundred.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
You're kidding, no Ah, some of us have no worries.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
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