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January 27, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition Full Show Podcast for Tuesday the 28th of January. People on the visitor visa will be allowed to work remotely while in New Zealand in an aim to increase time and money spent in the country. Tourism Export Council Chief Executive Lynda Keene joins the show to discuss how it will work and when we will see an increase in tourists.

A new study says less than $500,000 is needed on top of superannuation to live comfortably as a retiree - is it really enough? Superannuation expert Jonathan Eriksen speaks to Roman.

Students will be heading back to the classroom this week, but Kidscan say thousands will start the new school year without the essentials.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ramand Travers on
early edition with one roof make your Property search simple
news talks that'd be good a.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
New Zealand Roman Travis here for early edition. In for
Ryan Bridge in before six this morning, Linda Keene is
the Tourism Council Chief Executive. She will talk to us
more about this change in policy for tourists so they
can keep working and have a good time. Isn't that
already what they're doing? What actually has changed? We'll find
out more with Linda in before six. Our international correspondent
this morning is Donna Demeyo with news out of Australia.

(00:36):
Jonathan Erickson. He's of Superannuation and Super Fun. The expert
how much money do you need to retire with? We're
always told you need shed loads and we'll find out
just how much that She is at about twenty past
five and very soon. Julie Chapman is the CEO of
Kids Can. With more and more children heading back to
school without what they need, why is that still happening
in twenty twenty five? As always, I love your feedback.

(00:59):
My email is a man at Newstalk ZIRB dot co
dot Nz at the text nine two ninety two the agenda.
It is Tuesday, the twenty eighth of January. US President
Donald Trump has dropped his threat of twenty five percent
tariffs on Columbia after its government agreed to accept flights
carrying deported migrants.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, we have our first ever leftist president in charge
here in Colombia, and of course his politics don't sit
well with the politics of those in the White House
in the United States, so they're going to come to
a head again. This is undoubtedly going to be the case.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
The White House has called it a win, saying today's
events make clear to the world that America is respected again.
Today marks a week since Trump's inauguration. Israel says eight
of the twenty six remaining hostages who are set to
be released in Phase one of its ceasefire deal with
Hummas are dead. Thirty three hostages were due to be
exchanged for around one nine hundred palacetine and prisoners. Seven

(02:01):
have been released so far. Eighty years on from the
liberation of the Auschwitz Birkenal death camps, survivors and family
members have gathered to remember this is the.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Epitome, the epicenter of evil. This is the most concentrated
node in Naxus of Eagle because it had everything. It
was an extermination center with the dedicated gas chambers and
crematoria in Berkenal and the gas chamber here in Auschwitzer.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
US stocks are down this morning after developments in a
new Chinese artificial intelligence company, Deep Seek were revealed. The
Dell opened zero point eight percent, lower, SMP down two percent,
and the tech driven Nasdaq dropping three point six percent.
Deep Seek offers a service similar to chat GPT, but
at a fraction of the costs of US based AI companies,

(02:51):
saying it spent just five point six million developing the product.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
The first word on the News of the Day in
early edition with Roman Travers and one Room Make Your
Property Surgeon Simple News Talks.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
It'd be a very good morning to you now that
there's a new crime wave hitting the streets of Napier,
or to be precise, the street signs. No one seems
to be any closer to solving this crime, and there's
real mystery surrounding the identity of a sign bandit in
Napier who's been changing dozens of street names into crude
words for months without being nabbed. So far, the handiworkers
cost ratepays more than five thousand dollars for repairs. The

(03:27):
good people of Napier say, the culprit might feel like
a comedian, but the tampering isn't funny. There's two aspects
to this conundrum that haven't yet been delved into. When
was the last time you ask someone for directions? Gone
are the days when you took note of the instructions
given by a helpful stranger as they pointed relatively accurately
and gave you the names of streets to look for.
Doesn't everyone use Google Maps now? Our street signs still warranted.

(03:51):
The other aspect of the story, beyond the obvious cost
to Napier's ratepayers, is our collective reluctance to voice, or
even to print, some of the krue words used by
the comedic criminal. We stare blankly at the coverage of
the genocide inflicted upon people in Palestine, and perhaps hold
our breath momentarily until the next news item comes on.
But we can't bear the thought of using a long

(04:12):
list of crude words in case someone is offended. I
have that list of krue works head with me this
morning to share with you, but sadly I'm out of time.
Well another time maybe on the way. Julie Chapman, the
CEO of Kids Can, Why are so many children heading
back to school this year without what they need? Even

(04:33):
shoes and socks and jerseys. It's just terrible. Eleven past
five it's early edition used Talk SEDB on your.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Roman Travers
and one roof Make your Property Search Simple Youth Talks EDB.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Their teen past five. Schools are starting up for the
new year from this week, but there's a warning thousands
of students will start the year without the essentials. Kids
Can has done a survey with more and two hundred
schools with feedback from teachers showing that kids are showing
up without shoes and jerseys because families struggle with the costs,
and there's concern that many just won't turn up at

(05:10):
all because of the embarrassment. Kids Can CEO Julie Chapman
joins me. Now morning Julie, Good morning, Roman. What's the
situation like this year? How many schools have been applying
for the help they need?

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Oh, look, we've got seventy schools on our waiting list
right now. Twenty have applied to us since the middle
of last year, and we're already supporting children in more
than one thousand, one one hundred schools and early childhood
centers across New Zealand. So it's a pretty bleak picture

(05:48):
as kids head back to school for families who just
don't have enough money to provide those essentials.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, and we're not even into the cold part of
the year yet. How does this compare to previous years?

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, I was, you know, I was just thinking about
that while I was waiting to come on, and it
seems to be, you know, something that is talked about
every single year, and it's certainly something that kids can
has been tackling for the past twenty years, and it
doesn't really seem to get any better. And I think,

(06:21):
you know, cost of living, food prices, you know, all
of those things really exacerbate it. And so for us,
you know, we're all about education equals opportunity and so,
you know, really trying to do as much as we can,
but the problem is huge.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's hard enough getting kids to go to school, apparently
because of the pandemic and the ongoing effect of that.
How does this though, affect school attendance.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
It does affect school attendance. A lot of you know,
families with children who they kind of for the essentials
for feel a lot of shame. You know, they are
good people, They're not wasting their money. They just simply
don't have enough every week to be able to do
those extra things. You know, at this time of the year.

(07:12):
We know that a lot of teachers and can schools
tell us that kids are wearing you know, the jackets
we provide in the height of summer because it's the
only part of the uniform they have. There's kids coming
with empty food packets even to try and show that
they have had something when they may not have. So,

(07:34):
you know, for us, our goal for this appeal is
to get a thousand kids sponsored so that they can
take advantage of their education that that is offered to
all of us.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
You've mentioned food, the jerseys, the shoes, what other things.
What are the aspects of influencing whether they even turn
up or do well at school?

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yeah, look, it's stationery, it's having enough you know at
home before they even get there. It's in sport, it's
all of those things. And so what we provide is
the clothing, the shoes, the food, which gives that little
bit of families just to provide those essentials that hopefully

(08:17):
make it a bit easier for parents and kids to
get to school. Really about making sure that they have
that social inclusion at school starts day one. Any day
that's missed of school is going to have an impact
on our child's learning.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, absolutely, Julie, Thank you so much. Julie Chapman as
the CEO of Kids Can looking for more help there,
Just get in touch with them if you've got some
deep pockets and you'd like to contribute. I'm sure they
could do with the help. Up next, we'll find out
about superannuation. We're always told how many millions we need
to have a good life. How many millions do you
actually need? Jonathan Erickson a superannuation and super fun experts

(08:56):
with us. Next on early edition seventeen past five News.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Views you Trust to start your day is the early
edition with Roman Travers and one roof make your Property
search Simple.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
New talks that'd be nineteen past five. We've got more
suggestions on how much you should put aside for retirement.
The latest retirement expenditure guidelines have found less than five
hundred thousand dollars in savings should be enough for most retirees,
but many are spending more. Massive universities say retirees should
have additional income beyond superannuation so they don't have to

(09:28):
worry about running out superannuation, and super fund expert Jonathan
Erickson joins me now morning Jonathan Morning.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
Roman thinks, oh.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'm pretty broke, actually pretty broken and terrified. Really suggested
n't be.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Don't be, no, no, no. The key thing is New
Zealand super is not enough to live on, but it's
the best inflation proof income you can yet, not only
in New Zealand but in most retirement systems around the world.
So what you need to do is to build up
in the gig to top it up. And Massi University

(10:04):
is right. The target should be half a million, and
then if you want a bit more luxury and you
want to be able to go on holidays every year
and go and visit the grandchildren in Australia or whatever,
then you probably need a million. But they are targets
and the key thing is to save as much as
you can and enjoy what you're doing for your work

(10:27):
and to say be careful and look after your health.
So gym memberships all that sort of stuff are critical.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah makes sense, doesn't it. What about for a no
thrills household, no children to visit overseas, no desire to
go to every gig and show that comes to Eden
Park or the cake in the Wellington.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well well then then I still say
you need four hundred thousand because you don't know what
your healthcare costs.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Where have you gone here either? You are you come back?
Just appeared there for it? Jonathan, just repeat that last
tenteg key.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
Think it's healthcare and whether you can get access to
that on the public health system for more or less free.
You know, that's why I live in Auckland. I'm quite
close to north Shore Hospital. But if you have to
travel or you have to pay for health care privately,
then it may make the difference between life or death.
Having ten thousand dollars of the kiddy.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
How much has inflation and the cost of living impacted
how much you need to save for retirement?

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah, it's put it up by twenty percent, So everything's
gone up, even the basics like food. But the key
things are rates, if you're own your own home and insurance.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, okay, Well they always say that youth is wasted
on the young, don't they now, considering things will likely
get more expensive, should the younger generation prioritize savings for
retirement a whole lot sooner and a whole lot more
than what they are now?

Speaker 6 (11:54):
It depends how much they're saving now. If they're saving
ten percent of their income, that's enough. But if they're not,
if they're living week paycheck to paycheck or week to
week and spending what they make is though you know
there's no tomorrow, then that's a big mistake.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Do you find that a lot of people get in
touch with you or just do you get the feeling
that most of us are terrified because most of us
are asset rich with you? If you own a home
in Greytown Featherstone that's worth millions anyway, but you're not
selling it, are you?

Speaker 6 (12:23):
No? No, So there's reverse inuity mortgages. But this is
the problem people that shouldn't be terrified. There's fear doesn't
change anything, but effectively, what you want to be able
to do is get some cash out of your house.
And when you're living in places like Featherston and Greytount
that you can't do any better quite frankly. But if

(12:46):
you're living in Auckland or Willington, you can sell up
there and go and live in the provinces and basically,
you know, live off the saving that you make in
the difference in the value of the two homes.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm going to be self up
and moving into a camping ground, I think. Jonathan Erickson,
a superannuation and superfund expert, thanks for your time this morning. Rights. Look,
we've got this news about the digital nomad visa policy.
What does it actually mean? Well, I've got some more
thoughts on that, and I've got better alternatives that could
make money for New Zealand. Next here on early edition

(13:18):
twenty three past five.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
The early edition for All the Show podcast on iHeartRadio
Power by Newstalks at Me.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Twenty five past five. It's great to see the Coalition
government looking at every possible way in order to maximize
the New Zealand economy. Right yesterday a bunch of very
important government ministers stood near the arrival gates of Wellington
Airport to reinforce the news regarding the loosening of visa
requirements for overseas visitors who want to too in New
Zealand while working remotely for their employer at home. This

(13:46):
is a copy and paste of what other countries have
successfully implemented. Essentially what are known as digital nomads will
include visitors like IT specialists, as long as they are
not receiving any income from New Zealand sources. It would
also extent to social media influences, provided they're not being
paid by overseas companies. These changes will apply to all

(14:08):
visa visitors visit of visas, including tourists and people visiting family.
Visit of visas can be extended for up to nine months,
although the ministers warned that working New Zealand for more
than ninety days could require them to declare themselves as
New Zealand tax residents. This may well indeed help in
a range of ways to ensure that more and more
overseas residents spend more time and money here, or indeed

(14:31):
eventually decide to make New Zealand home. However, the ongoing
influence of massive companies like Netflix may prove to be
more of a success story for New Zealand than any
policy invoked by any government over the past weekend, parts
of Dunedin were turned into an eighteen hundred style Californian
town with Hollywood heavyweights filming a new Netflix drama. Academy

(14:52):
Award nominee Florence Pukee is one of the actresses starring
in a new adaptation of a nineteen fifty two novel
East of Eden, filmed around New Zealand. Auckland actress Jess
Hoolk is just one of many New Zealand stars hitting
the big time with Netflix in a range of movies
and Netflix series watched by millions globally. Then there's Lucy

(15:12):
m buchanan in the current super smash series on Netflix,
The Night Agent. It's revery good. Actually dial it up
if you haven't. This is currently the number one show
around the world for Netflix, with the ongoing potential to
not only print money for Netflix and those that invest
in the company, but also for New Zealand. There's a
very long list of actors doing amazing things on the

(15:34):
big and small screens of the world, and this list
is only fortified and embellished by the even longer list
of producers, directors, and other behind the scenes talent who
enhance the image perception and geographical recognition of New Zealand
each and every time they land a big gig. You've
seen what the Lord of the Rings movies and subsequent

(15:55):
TV series has done for New Zealand, but we've changed
how we want to be entertained since Peter Jackson got
stuck into the Ring thing. Government policy like we saw
being announced yesterday is gold for the country, but ensuring
we do everything possible to keep New Zealand high on
the locations list for the abundance of movies and TV

(16:15):
series yet to be made is crucial for the desperately
needed growth for the economy and the ongoing career is
for all those who continue to tread the boards and
feel the pool of the limelight. Schmoozing the pate of
you and movie company executives is of greater importance than
fiddling about with immigration policies. Zed Be twenty nine past five.

(16:40):
Let me know your thoughts on that. I found that
policy announcement yesterday a little bit odd. I found it
odd because I thought, so when people come to New Zealand,
what they haven't been checking their emails, they haven't been
doing a bit of an update of a spreadsheet a
bit of a chat with people back at home. Everybody's
working when they're on holiday, so we'll find out more
about what that actually means because at about ten two

(17:01):
six will be joined by Linda Keene and Linda is
the Tourism Council Chief Executive, so she'll talk more about
this digital nomad policy and what it actually means. Do
you think though, that we've got more scope to make
more money, more scope to make more money when it
comes to the movie industry and stuff that people come
to New Zealand four for the backdrops for the scenes.
I reckon let me know your thoughts nine two nine

(17:24):
two or Roman at newstalgzb dot co dot NZ.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Roman travers on early edition with one roof make your
Property Search Simple, youth dog zibby.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yes, talk fair me, Good morning, Welcome along to Welcome
back to early edition Roman Travis Headral six in for
Ryan Bridge on the way, Donadjmayo with news out of
our Australia with our international correspondent and a really interesting
discussion coming up before six with Linda Kine who's the
Tourism Council Chief Executive. She's with us to talk more
about these changes that will allow tourists to be here

(18:26):
for longer, working remotely all that kind of stuff. I
think they've already been doing that, but this will make
it quite legal, won't it. Some feedback for you as well,
before we get to the reporter roundup, Roman, you referred
to deep pockets in reference to the kids can interview. Yeah,
I did. They need all the help they can get.
Deep pockets means your pockets are so deep you can't
reach the money, so you keep it so that means

(18:47):
you have lots of money. Well that's quite good, I
guess in some ways. At least you can retire with
lots of money, which is also one of the topics today.
Hither Man, I actually practice being a digital nomad outside
of New Zealand. New Zealand is too expensive, It has
no cool history to wander around, no internet in the
remote places, and it's just not very interesting, says David. David. Really, Oh,

(19:10):
you need to ring read Michael king'sbook, A History of
New Zealand. Yeah, it's Oh, you'll love it, lind says Roman.
So parents can't afford school essentials and yet they need
to be saving four hundred thousand dollars at least for retirement.
It's a joke. We all got to work till the
day of our funeral, and even then it's too costly
to die. It's very sad, rarely says Lynn. That's a

(19:31):
very sad text, isn't it good? Lord, that's just oh
that's quite depressing actually, twenty two to six News talk z'
be as we head around the country. Let's get to
Dunedin first with Callum Proctor. Morning to you, Callum. What's
happening with all the birds?

Speaker 7 (19:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Bit of a worry.

Speaker 8 (19:47):
This a disease has been discovered responsible for killing hundreds
of ducks just north of Dunedin, and so citywide surveillance
is underway here to check that it hasn't spread. The
Council's identified avian botulism at the Waikwaiti Wastewater Treatment plant
near the estuary.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
There.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
This can paralyze and often kill birds. It's not known
to spread to humans though, but it has killed hundreds
of ducks so far. And look it's important to note
this is unrelated to the Otago Farm bird flew outbreak
last year. The Council says the treatment plants fenced off,
they have dock and fish and game conducting surveillance of
birds across Dunedin for signs of further spread, and they

(20:27):
advise for people not to handle dead birds and fish
or let pets eat them, and to maintain strong hygiene.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I saw some of the pictures of those lovely paradise
shell ducks. Oh really sad. What's the weathery're doing for
duned and today? Callum You're pretty good, mostly fine today.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
A few shells later tonight's Northleys and a high of
twenty two Callum.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Proctor and Dunedin. Thank you so much. Claire Sherwood. You're
in christ Church where the wead is always beautiful and
good day to sit in the.

Speaker 9 (20:52):
Park and have a drink for some Roman possibly but
it might be one of the last times they do that.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
We're looking at.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
Potentially adopting a local alcohol policy here in the Garden City,
so our city councilors are deciding over the next few
days whether we will have one introduced before the October elections. Now,
these policies set out rules around the number, location and
opening hours of licensed premises. This could apply city wide
or possibly just in specific areas. Meerfilm Major says they've

(21:21):
spent a lot of time kicking the can down the
road on making a decision on this, He says counselors
could ultimately opt against a policy, but they have to
do their homework and see how other cities are faring
with one.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, kicking the bear can down the road probably. What's
the weather light today in christ Church?

Speaker 9 (21:37):
Fine? Aside from some morning cloud, northeasterly is turning northwest
a bit later a high of twenty three not too bad.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Sounds good, Thank you Claire Sherwood and christ Church. There,
Let's head to Wellington where the weather is never anything
but superb. Max Toll morning to you. What's happening in
the Hut Valley some pretty big developments there?

Speaker 10 (21:53):
Yeah, good morning, just to quick on this morning. The
Apuni Housing development open yesterday at Social Housing. It's going
to mean a hundre and thirty four new homes in
Lower Hut built with the Hutt City Council. Housing Minister
and local MP. Chris Bishop was at the opening yesterday.
He says the project has faced delays but it has
been completed within the eighty million dollar budget. Some of

(22:13):
the planned tenants are shifting there from emergency housing motels.
He says, so the need for social housing obviously high
in the area. The project essentially turning thirty dilapidated, quake
prone buildings into more than one hundred warm and dry ones.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Our good stuff. Is it a good day to be
taking the sandwiches to Oriental Bay?

Speaker 10 (22:32):
Well it is if you're not working mostly fine. Northerly
is the high twenty Central?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh you're not too bit, next toll on Wellington? Thank you, Neva,
Ritti Manu, how are you?

Speaker 11 (22:41):
Good morning?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
The trains the clickertyty clickerty crackety mind the gap, they're
all back. What do you want today?

Speaker 11 (22:49):
Well, you're right, most train services romain. They will be
back up and running in Auckland today.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yay.

Speaker 11 (22:54):
Now, obviously they took a break over some of the
maintenance and upgrades. So I can tell you the Western
Line we'll run at a twenty minute frequency. The only
Hunger line will run on a thirty minute schedule. But
the full network, this is everything is going to be
back online on Monday as Kiwi Rail carries out it's
final lot of repairs. Now remain.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I've just got to say, yesterday you.

Speaker 11 (23:17):
Were complaining about not sleeping because your ear con unit,
you know, like broke down seven years ago. I thought
it was three years ago, seven seven years ago, and
I thought, look, I've come up with two ideas.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Oh yes, and they're free.

Speaker 11 (23:30):
You won't have to it's not going to cost you
that I know.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I know you love that.

Speaker 11 (23:33):
You don't have to spend any money. Look, first one,
take a frozen face cloth to bed. Put it on
your face, so you know, isn't that a great idea?
So you wet it, then just put it in the freezer.
Second one, you know how you get the hot water bottle? Yeah,
fill your hot water bottle with cold water, cold water,
put it in the freezer. Then later, some hours later,
put the frozen water bottle in your bed.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
They'll call you down. You wouldn't want it too close
to your essentials. But when you see that's right.

Speaker 11 (23:58):
I just want to get that image out of my
because he's sleep naked.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
So yeah, but so good lord, why.

Speaker 11 (24:04):
Don't you put it on your feet because it'll call
your feet in the rest of the body. That's a
good idea and won't cost you a seen.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I love it. And what about the weather?

Speaker 11 (24:10):
Today's lovely, cloudy, isolated morning. Charles Nordal City twenty three
is the high.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh I managed to avoid more embarrassment. Thank you so much.
Never reimed great tips, they are great tips. We'll head
to Australia next with our international correspondent Donna to Mayo
on Early edition seventeen to six, on early edition, good Lord,
that's embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
International correspondents with ends in eye insurance Peace of mind
for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Fourteen to six and our Australian correspondent this morning, Donna Demeyo. Morning, Donna.
The Prime Minister has some real issues, doesn't he.

Speaker 12 (24:44):
Well, it's an election year at Anthony Alberanese's approval ratings
have hit their lowest point since he was elected. Now yesterday,
speaking in Perth, he stated that he still believes Labor
can form majority government. This News poll is showing a
majority of Australians are expecting the Coalition to win this
year's federal election. Satisfaction with Albo forty four percent. That's

(25:07):
his lowest ever. As I mentioned, our opposition leader Peter Dutton,
while he's climbed from twenty two percent in twenty twenty
two right up to forty one percent, so he's faring
quite well. If you look at those stats. The Coalition
leads fifty one to forty nine two party preferred and
we know that the Prime Minister has been facing quite
a lot of pressure over his handling of a spate

(25:28):
of alleged and his Semitic attacks recently, but so far
the unofficial campaign has focused on cost of living pressures.
So we know the election will be held on or
before the seventeenth of May this year.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Now, Adelaide's a lovely town. I love Adelaide. You wouldn't
think You don't think Adelaide neo Nazis.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Do you?

Speaker 10 (25:48):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (25:48):
Well, we have seen alleged neo Nazis taken to the
streets and we know that South Australia Police have since
been praised for their actions after we saw sixteen people
were arrested after a rally in Adelaide at the weekend.
They're due to a peer in court today. The Prime
Minister says there's no place for this hateful ideology in Australia.

(26:10):
The group was from the National Socialist Network, amongst them
a sixteen year old boy from Victoria. Offenses include funny
to sea, sloitering and assault police and we know a
twenty five year old from Wa was charged with using
a Nazi symbol. The Prime Minister says they were horrific scenes.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, what a bunch of morons. Donnod demeyo, our Australian correspondent,
thank you so much for your time this morning News
Talk zibby Well. Tourists and New Zealand's on the visit
of Visa will soon be able to work remotely while here.
The changes targeting digital nomads, people employed by overseas companies
here on holiday and working at the same time in

(26:48):
the hope they'll spend more time and money in the country.
Tourism is currently New Zealand's second largest export and the
latest visit in numbers from Statistics in New Zealand show
we're reaching eighty six per sense of the pre COVID levels.
Linda Keen is the Tourism Export Council Chief Executive and
joins me now a very good morning to you, Linda.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
Good morning Raman.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
How much of a difference will this policy make, because
let's be honest, they've been working anyway.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Look, the third thing, Raman, is that this is very
encouraging that the government has now identified tourism as a
major economic driver and to help their growth agenda. What
difference will it make now? Not a lot in the
second half of the visitor season, which is this January
to March period. And the reason for that is that

(27:38):
New Zealan is a long ha destination. You have to
either have one or two long haul flights to reach US.
So if the target for America or Southeast Asian digital
nomads is for them to come to New Zealand, they
may not quickly switch to that right now. This type
of initiative would have been fantastic to have announced this

(28:01):
time last year.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
All right, So you did say it won't make much
of a difference. When will it make a difference?

Speaker 7 (28:07):
I think with the upcoming season. So the season starts
on the first of October, and because a digital nomad
and all visitors as a long haul destination, they take
their time to make a commitment to visit New Zealand.
We're committed to destination. It's a little bit different with Australia.
When we might decide tomorrow that we're going to go

(28:27):
to Australia for a short break, which is a short
haul destination, so it's going to take I would say
at least six months for us to see any positive
result with the Digital Nomad initiative.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
All right, okay, well, good things take time, I guess
could more quick changes have been made to improve visitor numbers.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yes, we know.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
The government's been working hard with trying to get the
economy back on track. Some of the decisions that have
made in the past twelve months, particularly with increasing immigration
visa fees and the international Visitor and Conservation levy, these
are decisions that we knew. So these were increases we

(29:07):
knew we're probably going to come through, but we suggested
to government that the best time to do that would
have been from the first of October twenty twenty five.
And that's because the industry is still in recovery. Our
first season that we reached fifty five percent of pre
pandemic numbers. At the end of this season we only

(29:28):
recovered at eighty three percent, and now on an annual
basis after another six months, we're only at eighty four percent.
So the timing of these initiatives are absolutely critical. But
I'm saying that we're just really pleased that the government
have put tourism back as on their growth. The gender,
and we're keen to partner and work with them to
get our visitors back as quipney as we can.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
You'd prefer there to previous government decisions on migration and
increasing the levy fees and all that sort of stuff
hasn't had Did it have much of an effect on
to and the economy. If you're faced with a fee
to go and enter our parks or whatever it might be,
is that going to put people off? Have you noticed that.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
At this time? Yes, we have the inbound tour operators
that we work with, they have offshore too, wholesalers and
travel agents as their clients, and the word from the
offshore industry is that the timing of us increasing these
fees has certainly had an impact on visitors considering New

(30:30):
Zealand as a destination. We're in a global market to
try to get tourism back to recovery, and we're lagging somewhat.
So any type of initiative needs to have a little
bit of a runway, It needs a bit of a
lead time, and in hindsight, you know, the industry, we
do believe that these increasing fees have had an impact.

(30:50):
We knew they were going to come but we would
have hoped that they would have come later this year,
not last year.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
All right, Linda, So in a nutshell, it's a good move.
It'll take time, tibed in, but well we'll reap the benefits.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Soon, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Oh good on you, Linda. Linda Keen there, who's the
Tourism Council chief executive. Good stuff, good stuff with that
in Netflix and more milk and cheese being exported will
be away and laughing, we'll have enough to retire on
and no time at all. Well, he didn't retire. He's
come back. Mike Hosking. It's his first day back this year,
and we'll join him next to find out what's coming
up on the Mike Hosking Breakfast here on early edition

(31:25):
eight to six, The.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
Early edition with Roman Travers and one roof Make your
Property Search Simple News Talk said.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Be five to six. Just a quick text here regarding
saving for your retirement and how much we need. Shane
says most of us are paying just to live, let alone.
Putting a money aside four to five hundred thousand dollars
for retirement would be nice, but I'm sure there's a
lot in the same place. I'm sure that is very
much the case. Thank you, Shane, Mike Hosking, good to
see you, see you too. You're back.

Speaker 13 (31:56):
I am back, well money because I'm broke, and so
I just speaking of retirement because I use my holiday
period to work out and assatain whether or not I
want to retire or not, and I can't afford to us.
It turns out but encouraging to know that it's only
half a million dollars because they do this thing every year,
of course, and it doesn't seem to have gone up,

(32:19):
but it is predicated on the idea that you don't
have a mortgage, and rural versus city is completely different.
Living in the country is a lot cheaper than living
in the city, and of course you need what else
do you need? You've see no mortgage and rural versus
so it's less if you're in the rural part of
the country.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Most of us have traditionally tied up our money and
our property right selling it thinking I'm going to move
to Gore, from Wellington to Gore, I'm gonna have millions
in the back. Gore has now become very expensive, hasn't it.

Speaker 13 (32:47):
It has the other thing. If you don't own property
in terms of saving for retirement, you are in the market,
of course, and one of the things you would have
done is buying video. But because of the Chinese this morning,
if you're following the market, they so the Chinese are
one of the great stories of the year, as far
as I can work out. Having said that, I know
I'm rambling slightly, but it's my first day back. You've
seen the BYD, you know BYD speaking of the Chinese

(33:10):
and the ev I saw a shark the.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Other day, which is their new ute.

Speaker 13 (33:13):
Yes, and it's not a bad looking thing as far
as square things go. That can haulsome anywhey. Look, do
you know what they are new now? A brand new ute?
No tell me seventy grand seventy grand for a brand
new youth. I don't think there's anyone in the market
that can compete with that. And that's why the Chinese
slowly but surely are going to take over the world.
And that's before I get to Nauru, which you up

(33:36):
on Naaruru. So Peters was going to Nauru meeting with
the President doesn't want to meet anymore. So we've frozen
our aid in a very Trump esque sort of move
because the Narulians are of course now tied up very
tightly with the Chinese.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (33:50):
So the geopolitical state of the country the region is fascinating,
which is very good because we've got the Prime Minister
on the sea.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
There you go. Yeah, my costume is that he's had
a holiday, but he's on fire. It's all set to
go the my casking breakfast with you next on News
Talks there be have a great day. Take here.

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