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July 27, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Monday 28th of July 2025, approved requests for segregation in prisons has hit more than 12-thousand, Corrections Association President Floyd Du Plessis shares his thoughts. 

Israel is allowing in more aid to Gaza, Geopolitical Analyst Geoffrey Miller explains how much fo a difference it will make. 

Andrew Alderson has the latest on the weekend's sport. 

Plus, UK Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey on Trump meeting with EU Chief to strike a trade deal.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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and tray this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be good morning, six after five. Welcome to your
Monday morning. Loads of segregation happening in our prisons. This
is according to a Newstalk SAB story this morning. Is
this a bad thing? We will ask that question before
six this morning. Israel under pressure over starvation in Gaza.
Jordan and the UAE are helping them mount Jeffrey Miller
on that shortly. Gavin Gray in the UK this morning

(00:33):
on Trump and the EU Chief Bonderlayan by having us
sit down, I think, on the sidelines of his golf course.
Plus Andrew Orlison here on F one. All ahead for
your Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
The Agenda twenty eight of July.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Jordan and the UAE have been dropping supplies into Gaza
after Israel announced its new plans, including military pauses to
increase the flow of aid, but humanitarian groups aren't buying this,
calling the drops a distraction.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
When aid is air dropped, it causes injuries and damage.
They cause massacres on the street. We're coming here for death.
All these people the people who die every day. If one,
two or ten boxes are dropped, all these people cannot
take them. Only one or two percent of people get
the aid.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
So to Scotland, where you wonder why is Trump meeting
with Ursula vonderlyone? This is the EU chief. Well, first
of August is fast approaching, and that's the deadline to
get a trade deal for the block.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I think Ursler will say probably fifty to fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Of making a deal.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Help you know, I'd like to make a deal.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I think it's good for boths. But actually fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
To the US astronomer, this is the tech firm whose
boss and the HR boss got caught hugging, kissing whatever
at cold Play and everyone thought they were having an
a fear Well Astronomer the company that employed them both,
they have apparently got a PR company and got a
new video promoting their brand. It's got Qwyneth Paltrow. Who's

(02:03):
Chris Martin Zick's wife? You know of Coldplay fame? Answering
the company's most asked questions.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Hi, I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. I've been hired on a very
temporary basis to speak on behalf of the three hundred
plus employees at Astronomer. Astronomer has gotten a lot of
questions over the last few days, and they wanted me
to answer the most common ones. Yes, Astronomer is the
best place to run APATCHE airflow, unifying the experience of

(02:31):
running data mL and AI pipelines at scale. We've been
thrilled so many people have a newfound interest in data
workflow automation.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Hmm, Okay, wasn't that funny? Was it? Eight half to five?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and
dry this winter.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
US talks at me. You probably don't want to come
out and make it look like you're making jokes when
a family has been destroyed. You know, I don't know
it's Gwyneth Paltrow. There you go now to look at
the news at the weekend on passports. Did you see this?
So I can understand why the government has had a
directive where they say, you know, if there's a stop

(03:18):
sign and stop, we all know how to spell stop.
So if you put it in another language, you run
the risk. You run the risk that people won't understand
what it is or what it says, and then crash
a car. So I can understand why the government's wanting
to make changes to potentially have put English first on

(03:40):
road science, etc. But when it comes to a passport
at the moment, I didn't even realize this until I
read this story, but I went and looked at my passport,
and true enough, the Maldi word comes first, so it
says and then next it says New Zealand pass sport.
If ever there was a place where and who even

(04:03):
sees a passport anyway, apart from you when you're waiting
in the departure lounge. But it's border staff. They are
used to seeing a million different languages on a passport, Like,
is this the biggest, biggest fish we should be frying
right now? That's my question about it. Tell me why
it matters? Who cares which way around that goes? They're

(04:26):
both true, they're both languages here, so what's the big deal.
Same with some of the speed limits. I've noticed the
government came in on a platform of reversing those blanket
speed reductions, which again I think they were silly to
be blanket reduced in the first place, But then they've

(04:47):
gone and blanket increased them even on roads where it
doesn't make any sense. You know, there are some roads
where you probably should be going seventy or other than
one hundred ks an hour, And when you do blanket
things like that, we end up with extreme outliers that
kind of undermine everything you're doing. And I think the
passport story is a bit like that for me. Eleven

(05:09):
after five nine two nine two is a nubum to
text this morning. We'd love your feedback and your views,
and we'll talk to Jeffrey Miller about the situation in Garza.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Next Views and Views you Trust to start your day.
It's earlier edition with Ryan Bridge at Xpole Installation keeping
Kiwi Homes board and dry. This winter News Talks B.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Five thirteen on News Talk SAB. You might have seen
an announcement yesterday on building products. Sounds great and there's
a lot of builders I know who are excited about this.
This is where will we will basically follow international standards
on products like plaster board and cladding and windows and
external doors, all sorts of stuff which should bring the
price of them down, mean that we have more choice,

(05:52):
more options, and theory that would bring the price of
building down However, the government doesn't say at this point
by how much on average estimate, and they also haven't
released the list yet, so that won't happen until today. Curiously,
they made the announcement yesterday, but we won't actually know
what's products are on the list until sometime later today.

(06:14):
Fourteen minutes after five Ryan bred Sjordan and the UAE
have begun air drops into Gaza to deliver aid. It
comes after the Israeli military announced it'll open humanitarian codors
into the Strip and a tactical pause in military activity
in three specific areas. Jeffrey Miller is a geo geopolitical

(06:35):
analyst with US this morning. Jeffrey, good morning, Good morning Ryan.
Good to have you on the program. So is this
going to be enough do you think to address the
problem that is clearly happening in that starvation?

Speaker 7 (06:48):
Well, look at something, Something is better than nothing. As
the UAE and Jordan dropped around twenty five tons of
aid into Gaza overnight. A look, that's a drop in
the ocean considered the scale of need. These two pauses,
so there's a ten hour pause of humanitarian pause or
tacticle pauses rail cause it in three areas of Gaza,

(07:11):
and then there's a seventeen hour window where it will
be a humanitarian corridor effectively allowed for the distribution of A.
I think both of those are going to be useful,
but in the end they only really will help if
Israel allows more A to come into Gaza, and that's
really where the hold up is. Around one hundred trucks
apparently went in from Egypt overnight, but they're being held

(07:33):
up at the border, held up at one of the checkpoints,
and Israel is being very very careful in what it
allows into Gaza, and that's really where the problem comes from.
There's a lot of aid that is held up at
the border, is already within Gaza and to some degree,
but is not being allowed for further distribution, and that's
what desperately is needed. Israel absolutely needs to allow that

(07:56):
A to reach the Palestinian people in Gaza because the
scale of suffering is just horrific at the moment.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Absolutely. It is one of the things that the IDEF
always talks about is Hummas and what their control of
aid centers or involvement with aid centers and distribution centers
could mean, and also what's potentially coming in across the border.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yes, I mean that's always Israel's argument that Hammas controls
the food aid and that weapons are being smuggled in
with the AID, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But
I think we just need to take one look at
some of the horrific images that are coming out out
of Gaza and being shown on a nightly basis on
our TV screens around the world, and we look at
those calls from over one hundred AID organizations last week.

(08:40):
I think the calls really reached a crescendo last week.
In Israel is actually responding to the pressure there's been
placed in it from the international community and some of
the things that have been coming out, and in France's
recognition of a Palestinian state is another point of pressure.
So it is interesting that Israel is actually responding to
the pressure. And I think we need to keep the

(09:01):
pressure on. The international community needs to get the pressure
on because on Friday, the CEASEFIE negotiations and cut up
between Hamas and Israel and the United States collapse and
Israel and the United States expectively took peop ball and
went home. Steve wick Goff said Israel would now look
for alternative options to free the hostages. It didn't sound good.

(09:22):
And just within the last couple of hours, Ryan and
Donald Trump as set as Rael need to make a decision. Well,
that sounds quite ominous to me. So I think we
need to keep our eye on the bigger picture here,
which is those ceasefine negotiations. And I do think, you know,
if we're looking at New Zealand's perspective, new Zealand can
play a small part in all of that. Wist Peter

(09:42):
said that last week. He said that New Zealand can
and must play its part, and so I think New
Zealand needs to think about what it can do. And
I think New Zealand needs to also think about its
relations with countries in the Middle East. New Zealand has
good relations and with the Gulf States, the likes of
the United So I think we're he just needs to
be pulling on all the diplomatic leaders here.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Absolutely. I appreciate your time this morning. Jeffrey Miller, who's
a geopolitical analyst on the program this morning, just gone
eighteen minutes after five. Andrew Alison has been following the
f winnings with US next.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Bryan Bridge on early edition with X bowl insulation keeping
Kiwi homes warm and try this winter news talks.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It'd be very good morning to just gone twenty after five.
We'll get to the Seek employment report. This is for June.
We'll get to the new numbers on that just shortly.
But Andrew Allison here was sport now, who's been watching
a bit of F one.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Good morning greetings Ryan, Yes, so well Liam Lawson. For starters.
From the New Zealand perspective with racing, Bill's getting more
points finishing in eighth place, so four points for him,
best from his team. With Isaac Hadger out of the
race and well the weather in the end Oscar Pea Street,
he's extended his lead in the overall championship. The sixteen points.

(10:52):
I have a teammate Landa Lauris, I suppose more importantly
for McLaren a sixth one to two finish for the season.
So the dominant team in time, wet weather in the
Spa for the Belgian Grand Prix, but yeah, they are
able to just take it out pretty convincingly.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Over in France they've had a few crashes, but it's
about to wrap up. The tour to front.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
France yet coming to an end. And yeah, today Pagarchia
is basically in command, I think, a lead of so
many four and a half minutes going into the final stage,
and it's just wonderful those scenes. The rain is coming
down and they're they're battling their way over the cobblestones
in the heart of Paris. But yeah, about to head

(11:32):
to the Chapsalisa shortly. But I think just last up
about twelve cas to go. Pagarchia in the at the
head of the course, still as he has been over
the course of the what three thousand, three hundred and
thirty eight, K's Ryan, it's on the pedals.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I was watching a little bit of the other day.
It's just incredible how close the spectators get to the riders,
and how many die every year. What's you know, spectators, it's.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
An extraordin Yeah, they do what they do, approach and yeah,
and I suppose to dehydration various other bits and pieces,
but it's it's a brutal business out there in the
heat of the of the French sellar it is.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think you're right. There's a few sherries that happened.
Other things yeah, yeah, Netbule last night the Tactics what
it Well, this is phenomenos and it did surprise me.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Actually, it's been one of those long lasting scenarios where
they'd never won a you know, an elite level competition
since the game went professional, et cetera. And the Tactics
have pulled off at last and a Donald Wilkins new
coach and they've made that change and been defending champion Mystics. Yeah,
convincing one of the end I think fifty eight to
forty six, But I think the key moment of that
game probably the seventeen to eight.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
First quarter advantage they had.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
They never relinquished that in a way they went so yeah,
it's it's yeah, but a history in the in the
netple at a time where Nepple needs some stories of that,
given that it's a difficult scenario at the moment with
no broadcast deal leading on from here and you know,
players potentially upping six and moving to Australia to play
or other parts of the world have had to change

(13:03):
the eligibility criteria for the Silver fans. But a good
news story.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Of Nipple wor bit of a crossroads, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Is it really is?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, but more on that, I guess in the
coming weeks.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Absolutely, Andrew Ortison the sport for us this morning. Thanks Andrew,
He's right. Twenty three minutes after five, you're on News
Talks VB. I'll give you those employment numbers in just
a second. Also, we'll take a look at the road
cone directive. We've got a new one at the weekend
News Talk, said B.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how It
by NEWSTALKSB News.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Talk, said B. It is twenty five minutes after five.
Welcome to you Monday morning. Chris Bishop says that we're
sick of this is us the public apparently sick of
over the top road cone use and expensive traffic management plans. Well, yes,
he'd be right. They are so annoying and often, at
least to my untrained eye, they're completely pointless. They take

(13:54):
a one hundred dollar job and they make it one
thousand dollar job. And for what So, why is this
still happening. We've had a hotline, we've had an election campaign,
we've had promises up the wazoo. Why are there still
cones everywhere all over the road when the government has
said that they've told ZTA to get rid of. And
this is apparently like the Devil's Playbook, NZTA's Code of

(14:18):
Practice for Traffic Management Risk Assessment, that apparently is the
document that has been doing our heads in and the
government's told ins NTA to basically get rid of that thing,
make it obsolete. While the problem apparently is that many
councils are still using the Devil's Workbook, the Devil's playbook,
this code of practice as the north Star. So as

(14:39):
a response the government's now threatening local council funding, you
have to literally threaten their funding to get them to
change their ways. And what this shows us is just
how far and deep the overtly cautious safety at any
cost mentality has gone. Also it shows you how scared
they are of work safe, coming in and going after

(15:02):
somebody should you know an injury happen. You have to
make sure people are safe, of course, especially when working
with dangers, but you can't keep everybody safe from all
harms in all places, at all times and for any reason.
Fencing every waterway is impractical, so is covering every street
in road cones. We need to find a sensible middle

(15:24):
ground and make sure the officials told to carry out
the changes actually do so. Ryan twenty seven, after five
news talks, he'd be Ryan. The predominant language in New
Zealand should take precedence on a passport, says Kevin. English
is the predominant language. My point, Kevin, is it's on
a passport. Who cares, you know, there are a thousand

(15:44):
languages on a thousand different passports with a thousand different flags.
The border guy's not going to care what comes first.
You know, if ever there was a place to have
lots of different languages, it would be a passport. Seek.
We've got the unemployment numbers for you, will talk about
them when we come back from news at half five.
Basically job ads, this is for June Seek. Job ads

(16:05):
are down three percent month on month and three percent
year on year. Applications per ad are also down about
two percent month on month. So this is the second
month in a row that job ads have dropped, falling
three percent month a month. The one percent is the trend.
The areas of parts of New Zealand. Three regions recorded

(16:28):
an increase in ad volumes. That's Gisbon up sixteen percent,
Marlborough sixteen percent, Southland one percent. Ad volumes have also
grown in wait for it, Wellington by four percent, and interestingly,
the increase the average for all industries was a seven percent, sorry,

(16:48):
a seven percent month on month decline. Job ads in
government and defense somehow, even though they say they're chopping
the hell out of the staff members at their bureaucrats,
government and defense grown by fifty one percent year on year.
Riddle me that are they getting rid of so many
people they need to advertise the jobs that they have recreated.

(17:11):
I don't know, but a fifty one percent increase in
your government and your defense jobs at a time when
private sectors going down doesn't look great for a government
of this color. Twenty nine minutes after five on your
Monday morning. We'll get to reporters after this and Gavin
Gray in.

Speaker 8 (17:27):
The UK, all ahead, do.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
No, I will carry you home.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Wellnight of fifty five years down the role, the.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
earlier edition with Ryan Branch and ex Bowl Insulation, keeping
Kiwi homes warm and it's ray this winter. News Talk saidb.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Good morning, it.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Is twenty four minutes away from six. News Talk said,
be welcome to you Monday. Great to have your company, Ryan,
they need to look at the stop go regulations as well.
This is from Steve. Not just the road cones, but
stop go regulations are absolutely ut off control, says Steve.
Sometimes there's just two or three cars a day and
they still have stopped go operating. This is in rural
areas of New Zealand. Very annoying. Hey, the Brits after

(18:32):
turning their backs on the tourists. This is the Spanish
in New Yorker Daily Mails run a piece today which
is quite well, I mean it's karma, isn't it. It's
what it is. It's karma. So you have the locals
come out and say, in Mi Yorca, bugger off tourists,
because we're flooded with you and your airbnb's are ruining
our rental market, and we'll squirt you with water guns.

(18:54):
Should you sit down at restaurants in our towns and cities?
Now York is basically empty, and the Restaurant Association has said,
well that'll be because we literally quote scared all the
visitors away. So if that's your strategy, I guess you
get what you want. You get what you paid for.
Twenty three away from six ran Bridge our reporters around

(19:17):
the country. Rosy Leishman is in Dunedin for us this morning. Rosie,
good morning, good morning. Today's the final day for people
to share their views on road changes around the hospital.

Speaker 10 (19:29):
Yes, it is so. MZTA has been seeking feedback on
proposed changes to State Highway one, Cumberland Street and State
Highway eighty eight to Saint Andrew Street. Under the proposal
of the westbound right turn from St Andrew Street onto
Cumberland Street will be removed and Frederick Street will become
the new State Highway eighty eight. There will also be
a new barns dance and traffic light controlled crossings. The

(19:52):
changes aim to create a safe and efficient access to
the new hospital.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Rosy, how's your weather.

Speaker 10 (19:58):
Cloudy periods today with some northern and a high of
fifteen degrees.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Thank you, clears and christ Church clear it's not outside
the hospital there that the concerns arefore, but it's inside
that's right.

Speaker 11 (20:08):
Good morning. Look there's an alarming number of christ Church
Hospital departments now working at below full staffing levels. So
this comes from Health New Zealand figures which have been
released to our newsroom under the Official Information Act. They
reveal that as of May this year, thirty seven percent
of these seventy three departments at christ Church Hospital are
operating at less than ninety percent of fully staffed. Another

(20:31):
twelve percent are even worse, operating at less than eighty
percent staffed. Child Health, Oncology and Intensive Care Unit nursing
have around thirty full time equivalent vacancies, with two of
the three respectively having been at that level for more
than twelve months. Health New Zealand sayers are continuing to
face growing demand for services, coupled with some recruiting challenges.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Right. How's you weather, Claire, A bit frosty to.

Speaker 11 (20:55):
Start in some areas. Otherwise a cloudy day, northeasterlies and
a high of fifteen.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Nice one and joy mex Is and Wellington hemes.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Your water loss is getting actually betcha in Wellington.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah, Unfortunately, what we've become known for over the past
few years is this massive amount of water that escapes
out of old, rusty, leaky pipes. Good story in the
post this morning. It is getting better. Four billion liters
of water saved in Wellington over the past year compared
to last year, and that's eleven elitas a day worth

(21:28):
four Olympic sized swimming pools, roughly a day being saved.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
We're getting better at fixing leaks.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Wellington Water is getting more efficient, which couldn't have been
very hard. The newest chief executive clearly doing a better
job than the last predecessor. We're not the clear though,
of course, tens of millions of liters still being lost daily.
Wellington Water Board chair Nick Leggett at one time himself
under immense pressure. Of course, he says we're still only
applying band aid solutions. So all of these mayoral and

(21:56):
council candidates they know there's still a lot of value
in campaigning on to spend water investment. That's what people want.
The key thing is though we are getting better.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, that's at least something next. And the weather.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
It should be fine today with fresh northerlyes fourteen the
high central.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Nice. Thank you neighbors here in the studio. Good morning morning.
An update on the busiest road in the North Shore.

Speaker 12 (22:17):
That's right, so Auckland Transport. It's moving to ease congestion
on or near a road. Now this road sees about
thirty thousand vehicles traveling along and every day. So what's
happening is going to add broken yellow lines on both sides.
This is from Birkenhead Avenue to Lake Road, making it
a twenty four seven clear way. So this should be
quite good actually, because it's going to complement that the

(22:38):
other road layout changes new pedestrian crossing technology just outside
you know, Saint Mary's Church and Northcote College. Because it's
a real you know, delays, it's a real.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Problem, but so is the other one. If you go
the other way to Devenport. Yeah, we try that at
the weekend. You just just do not go to Devenport.

Speaker 12 (22:57):
No, well that's that I avoid it in the weekend
during the week day because it's yeah, there's that bottlenecks.
So work is going to start later this year in
summer obviously when the schools are closed, and it should
be completed in time for the new school year.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Oh lovely, yes, yes time. How's our weather.

Speaker 12 (23:12):
Today come out increasing, We've got a chance of a
show from afternoon strong winds northeasterlies rising to galegusting ninety
could be our warmer though seventeen high here in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Neva, thank you very much for that. Neva ready money
with your news updated this morning, nineteen minutes away from
six lots to discuss before we get to six o'clock.
So the new numbers out today are just running through
them really quickly, a sixty six percent increase. They reckon
in prisoners asking so it's just their side of the
equation requesting segregation. I don't want to be near other

(23:43):
inmates because they're too dangerous. It's up from around seven
thousand to twelve thousand in the last four years. That's
a sixty six percent increase. Now you've got people against
prisons out here that are saying, well, our prisons are
dangerous places, and yes, they are dangerous places. And if
you are that dangerous that even fellow inmates don't want

(24:05):
to be living near you, then it's a good thing
you're in prison, do you know what I mean? Anyway,
we'll talk about that before six and Gavin Gray out
of the UK next on Trump's meeting in Scotland with vandaliin.
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Mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Fourteen minutes away from six and breaking news. The US
and the EU have reached a trade deal, at least
a framework for a trade deal, joining US this morning
to discuss. As Gavin Gray are UK europe correspondent, Gavin,
good morning, good evening to you, hither Rah. What do
we know?

Speaker 13 (25:47):
Well, at the moment, the details are still really really
sketchy about what they've got to Donald Trump earlier said
there were twenty sticking points, but thought it was fifty
to fifty as to whether there'd be a deal today.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
But yeah.

Speaker 13 (25:58):
The announcement was made as the US President met the
European Commission chief Versus Levonda Lion at Turnary, one of
his golf resorts in Scotland. He claims that as part
of the deal, the European Union will make some six
hundred billion US dollars in US investments and by a
large amount of US energy and purchased military equipment. He

(26:22):
said always his main problem had been there was on
fairness because quite simply, the EU buys much less from
America than it sells, and because of the barriers to
US exports of cars and agriculture. So there was talk
of a thirty percent to have that looks like that's
been skipped, but Ryan, we'll wait. The major details about

(26:45):
what's going on here, because it is still very very
fresh off the press.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah. Absolutely, and their meeting in Scotland at the moment,
aren't they. So this is just a framework for a deal,
not an actual sign seal delivered deal.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (27:00):
And the deadline, of course, was due to be on Friday.
And we've had this kind of with the UK as
well though, haven't we. There was a big signing, but
actually it was the sort of framework for a much
larger deal rather than all the nuts and bolts. I
think the thing is that he's feeling time pressures. Obviously,
the EU is feeling time pressures because he put that

(27:21):
deadline on them, so they felt maybe coming up with
this framework is better than nothing. But let's see what
the detail is when we get there, and to see
how generous this is. Because some in Europe, including some
prominent members like Emmanual Macron in France, were saying we
should be absolutely on a level playing field here and
if we don't get a level playing field deal, we
should put retaliatory tariffs in straight away. Now that's called

(27:47):
pressure on the negotiations.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks so much for Thatkevin Gray are UK
europe correspondent with that breaking news that the US and
the EU have reached a framework. They're holding hands. That
lead's not quite hugging at the stage. News Talks Air B.
It is eleven away from six. Look this morning, what's
going inside our prisons? Figures released a News Talks THEIRB
show the number of approved requests for segregation hit more

(28:12):
than twelve thousand in the twenty three to twenty four
financial year. That's up sixty six percent from five years ago.
Add to that, the number of corrections directed segregations has
doubled in the same timeframe. Corrections Association President Floyd de
Pissi is with me this morning. Floyd, good morning, Good
morning Ryan. What sort of violence are your guys seeing?

Speaker 9 (28:33):
The violence staff are seen within the prisons next has
extremely risen, So there's a lot more serious offending and
it's just outright at text on staff.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
So punches to the face, I mean just literally just violence. Yes, the.

Speaker 9 (28:52):
Type of violence varies quite drastically, but these assaults, assaults
by multiple prisoners on one staff member, assaults using weapons
that they've improved, that they've made, So it does vary
quite substantially. But the important thing is that a the
severity and the mere number of these instance, across the

(29:15):
year has drastically risen.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
And so when somebody when you've got a sixty six
percent increase in four years on people asking for segregation,
what does that do for staffing levels? Like, if you
have lots of people wanting to be in segregated areas,
does that increase the number of people that you need.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
It?

Speaker 9 (29:34):
Does it correlate into actually having more staff? Unfortunately, no,
it doesn't. So the segregation numbers is making it very
hard to run the prisons. We've got a lot more
prisoners that are segregated and therefore have to be kept
separate from everyone else, and so that definitely does increase
the workload on staff.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You've got apparently two officers and a high security wing
of thirty inmates. What should that number be?

Speaker 9 (30:02):
That's a piece of work that we're saying to the
government needs some serious research. We've looked at the likes
of you know, everyone mentions the Scander Navy and model
in prisons. We've spoken to the Norwegian prison officers and
spoken about how they operate. They run a model that
has one staff member to every two prisoners. Now that
on the extreme ends, but what they've clearly shared with

(30:24):
us is having far more staff gives you the ability
to do a lot more one on one intervention, a
lot more work and support, and so having something closer
to that end drastically increases the reduction in violence, and
more importantly, on the other end, it helps change these
people in a much better way. And so we're saying

(30:45):
two staff to thirty high sur prisoners is just not
good enough. We need more staff on the ground to
prevent these incidents and to help with better rehabilitation outcomes.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
If they're one staff to every two inmates and we're
two for every thirty, we had a long way to go,
haven't we? Absolutely?

Speaker 9 (31:00):
And that's that's the reality. Are we going to get
there today?

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Though?

Speaker 9 (31:04):
But let's start moving in that direction to start increasing safety.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Floyd dipluses the Corrections Association US on President Time. Now
is eight minutes away from six News Talk SEB.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
The first Word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and x Fole Insulation, Keeping Kiwi
Holmes warm and Drey This Winter News Talks ad B.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Good Morning. Lots of text about road cones as you
can imagine. So in future, this is how the government
is actually going to fix the problem. Apparently because you
can do a you know, a hotline where people can
ring in, and that's not going to do it. Apparently
that's not enough. You can tell the councils to do it,
they're not going to listen, so you actually have to
threaten to restrict funding. In future, the NZTA Board will

(31:48):
not approve funding unless councils use the new New Zealand
Guide to Temporary Traffic Management, which is the parent that's
the one they need to use. The one they're still
using is the old one, which is the Code of
Practice for Traffic Management Risk Assessment. That'll solve the problem.

(32:08):
Moment five or six. Graham Bridge, Good morning, Mike, morning.
I what would you have done?

Speaker 14 (32:14):
How long have we got? Because I can't see a clock.
You're hopeless on time?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Three minutes?

Speaker 14 (32:19):
Yeah, right, two or three minutes. I don't think that's true.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
So I'm on the motor minutes.

Speaker 14 (32:25):
I'm on the motorway the other day and so it's
three o'clock in the morning and I'm seeing on the
other side of the motorway there's road action. My side
of the motorway there are and I'm not kidding hundreds
of meters of road cones, hundreds of meters of them,
with no people there, no work going on, no nothing.
So I'm speeding along at one hundred ish and I'm

(32:47):
seeing these road cones and I'm thinking, wait a minute,
wait a minute, this is not happening. So your theory
versus reality, right, they make these big, grandiose announcements about
the rocone, but listens.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
But also how much of it is to do with
work Safe because they're not pulling the dogs off the
leash at the other end. You know what I mean.
If you go ahead, okay, fine, let's take away all
the road cones and then someone dies, work Safe is
going to come after you.

Speaker 14 (33:09):
No, but this is a motivate three o'clock in the morning.
There's a motivate State Highway one, multi lane highway, hundreds
of me.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Now my question was this, but is there a hole
that the cones are hole?

Speaker 14 (33:19):
There's nothing, So my question is this, would you back up?
Because you can't turn around on the motorway going one way,
you can't.

Speaker 8 (33:26):
Do a UI.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Would you back up?

Speaker 14 (33:28):
Because this was my temptation. I was going to slam,
slam on the brakes, hit reverse, back, up and film
them and then send the film to the Prime Minister
and go what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Talk about it? But I don't know.

Speaker 14 (33:41):
Yeah, but you need he'd go, I don't, but I
find that hard to believe.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
The minute you hit reverse on a motorway, Well, that's
my question, do you think so well?

Speaker 14 (33:50):
Not of the's note? Have you been on the motorway
three in the morning. There's no one there? Yeah, but
I mean I thought I needed proof. So I regret
now not doing it, okay, because I can only tell
the story and I've only got my credibility to unbelief you.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
No one believes me.

Speaker 14 (34:01):
But it was there, Honestly, it was there, all right.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I doubt that it'll be one for him this morning.

Speaker 14 (34:06):
Prime Ministers with us after seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Fore then, thank you seen him on. Everyone, have a
great day.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live
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