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July 28, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Tuesday 29th of July 2025, Donald Trump's set a deadline of 10 or 12 days for Putin to make a deal with Ukraine, US Correspondent Toni Waterman has the latest. 

Health and Safety experts say the Government need to consider people's lives as they set to change scaffolding regulations. 

It's becoming increasingly difficult for young people to get into employment, Youth Employment expert Zainab Ali explains.

Plus Australia correspondent Donna Demaio has the latest on the UN Chief urging Australia to aim higher as it debates climate goals. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
an early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes
warm and tray. This winter news Talk said, be good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It is Tuesday, just gone six after five, coming up
before six this morning. It's real starvation. You can't fake that.
This is Donald Trump on Gaza and he's out of
step with Netanya, who will have our US correspondent before
top of the details on this twenty for our nurses strike.
Yes it's happening. It's tomorrow. If you've got an appointment,
I'll tell you what to do. Young people are out

(00:33):
of work. This is a loose labor market. We've got everybody,
and we'll talk to someone who helps underprove the young
people get into work. Find out exactly how you do that.
Donald Demayo out of Australia for us this morning, and
the lioness who played the whole Euro's tournament with a
broken leg.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
The agenda.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It is Tuesday, the twenty ninth to July. Trump set
a new deadline for Pootin. He's given him ten or
twelve days, so not a hard and fast deadline. Clearly
to make a deal with Ukraine. He says an official
announcement is pending.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm going to make a new deadline of about ten,
ten or twelve days from today. There's no reason in
a waiting. There's no reason in waiting. It's fifty days.
I want to be generous, but we just don't see
any progress being there.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
All right, we'll talk about that in a second. Massive
celebrations for England's line essays they won the Euro twenty
twenty five final against Spain. Chloe Kelly, who scored the
winning penalty, has been called the next David Beckham.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I know Lassus Strampson tried to put the ball on
her heads and then of course taking the penalty. Are
heartually missed free penalties in training yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Back home, you probably would have heard about this, the
annoying credit cards to charges you tap and go at
your supermarket and they charge you while they're gone from
next year. Retailers and hospital joints aren't too pleased because
the banks are getting off scott free by still being
able to charge businesses for use.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
As we know, there's no free lunch that you know,
retailers are going to have to absorb the fees that
they incur from those transactions and so retailers will need
to consider whether they have to increase their prices.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Nikola Willis says, don't do that.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
I would certainly encourage them not to do that, and
I think you'd find that small businesses.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
No, it's pretty competitive world out there, and if they
do that, they might lose some shoppers.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Eight after five Get ahead of the headlines on early
edition with Ryan Branch and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi
homes warm and dry.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
This winter news talks a'd be like whack a mole,
isn't it whack a mole for people who are trying
to pay for their groceries every week and the government's
desperate to show that they're doing something about cost of
living and they're just whacking this little charge here and
getting this little seurcharge there. And don't worry, we'll have
a meeting with Miles Harrel about the butter. Does anyone

(02:55):
think anything will change? Probably not. This is from the
what We're Thinking file. Really, this is the government quietly
so didn't come out with a press release and a
song and a dance, but quietly increasing the fees that
board members of Crown agencies will be paid. In some
cases by eighty percent. So the maximum, the top potential

(03:18):
annual fee for chairs of governance boards, that's going to
increase to more than one hundred and sixty thousand dollars
from the current top which is ninety thousand. This is
so Labour's twenty twenty two framework said ninety k was
your max and this government is saying no, actually your
MAC should be one hundred and sixty thousand. And the
argument is, well, you need to be you need to

(03:39):
have an attractive offer, You need to be competitive with
the private sector. And if you are, you know, in
charge of a board or even on a board that
is overseeing billions and billions of dollars in you know,
in funding, then you should probably be quite competent. And
we want the best people in the job. So you
can understand the argument. But for this government, not a

(04:00):
great look. And also why would you put that out
albeit quietly, on the same day you give a ten
minute sermon from the pulpit about cost of living, you know,
like pick your days, where's the PR strategy? Where's the
PR management here? Anyway, Also on the day that the
nurses announced that they're going on strike, So what your

(04:20):
nurses aren't getting your inflation adjusted payment, but your board
members are getting up to eighty percent. Not a great look,
is it? Not a great look, even if it sort
of makes sense. Now, just gone ten minutes, half to five,
we will talk about Trump and his moving deadlines. He
loves a deadline, doesn't He loves a deadline mate arbitrary,

(04:40):
completely pointless and meaningless, but self imposed to basically make
someone else sweat. It's the art of the deal. That's
what he does. So he's moving two deadlines today. One
is the I will come and hunt you down and
get you with tariff's Russia if you don't stop the
war in Ukraine. That deadline's moving. But also his deadline

(05:01):
for a deal with China on tariffs is set to
expire August twelfth. He's moving that too. We'll have details
just before six eleven after five News Talks MB.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Ryan Bridge and ex Fole Insulation to keeping Kiwi Holmes
warm and dry. This winter News Talks at b five
point thirteen.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
We've got a text here from Rob Ryan. We have
work for young intelligent people to do apprenticeships. Yes, that
may well be true where you are, rob But the
fact is that young people, if you look at the
numbers out yesterday from Stats n Z, young people are
burying the brunt. The average for under thirty year olds
in New Zealand is almost six percent fewer jobs now

(05:49):
than last year. That's the average. And in total we've
lost nearly thirty thousand jobs disappeared from the economy. Thank you,
Reserve Bank and your what that sound was, Thank you
Reserve Bank and your interest, your manufactured recession. It is
thirty thousand jobs is the cost and young people six

(06:11):
percent fewer jobs now than what they had last year.
We'll talk to someone who's trying to get young people
into work about that in just a few moments time.
It's just gone fourteen after five. Ran Bridge Brook van
Velden wants to change up regulation around scaffolding, but health
and safety experts say relaxed scaffolding rules could have cost
us up to seventy lives in the past five years.

(06:33):
Chris Alderson is Chief executive of Construction, Health and Safety
New Zealand. Has looked me this morning, Hey Chris, Hey,
how are you good? Thank you? What's the rule? When
do I need to put scaffolding up if i'm would
it ever happen on a single story house?

Speaker 7 (06:47):
Yeah, Well, there was regulations or guidance that came in
around about twenty twelve, which I guess was the regulatory
shift we saw back then that look at scaffolding on
single story houses. Now, you know, under our Help and
Safety Work Act, you know, judges take guidance into account

(07:10):
when they're looking at the test for reasonable practicability. So
it kind of like the industry on that path from then.
And look, there was a lot of questioning around that time.
I remember it around you know, was this overreach, was
this over kilder? We barely need it? And there's been
a few organizations that have had a look at it

(07:31):
since then. I mean, Brands did a report in twenty
seventeen which looked at the effect of scaffolding and single
story residential houses, and so I found that yes, you know,
there was a cost increase, but actually there's a major
safety improvement as well. And it's kind of we we've
been since then, so we haven't really looked at it

(07:51):
since twenty seventeen. But you know, if you go out
and talk to good builders, smart builders, what they will
tell you is that, Hey, there's a lot of benefits
other than the safety stuck around scoutled in these opportunities
as well, around productivity and things like that.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right, So, because I think for a lot of people
that single story house example is one that's kind of obvious.
Do you really need it? I mean would I guess
the question is would people have died if we didn't
have it?

Speaker 8 (08:20):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (08:20):
So look our history of so all around the world,
falling from height is the number one reason you get
killed at work all around the world, no matter where
you look, the US, Australia, the UK except for one
little place and that's New Zealand. So in Czinland it's
not number one, which is interesting, right. And you know,

(08:42):
when we look at all the fatalities we have had
a fullsome heighter around about six percent of them. If
you go to the UK twenty eight percent. To get
to Australia around about fifteen percent on average. So you
kind of go, well, there's there's a difference. So what
we're trying to talk about here is trying to talk
about something that didn't have and rather than did happen. Right,
So all you can do is look at that sort

(09:03):
of counterfactual and say, well, what do we do in
New Zealand that made our made us a little bit unusual.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
And I think can really put our building.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
Yeah, well maybe maybe our people are taller. I don't know,
maybe gravity works differently in the door of the herbsphere. Maybe
you've had on it.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
So Chris, Chris. These changes the government says are out
for consultation. You know, everyone will get a chance to
have their say. You're saying, actually, it's working fine as
it is.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Well, I'm saying that. Look, if you're going to make
a deregulatory move, then be really sure about your facts,
because you know, we've all got opinions. We're all entitled
to our opinions, but we're all not entitled to our
own facts. And you've got to really be quite careful,
particularly when you're walking into an obviously higher risk area

(10:01):
where it does actually affect people's lives in the most
serious way. You know, these aren't I mean of a
flippant before, but you know there are. But you know,
I've had people on projects or a person on project
that I ran, you know, fifteen years of the types
and heights. It's not something i'd wish on anybody.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Chris, Yeah, absolutely, I appreciate your time this morning.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
Chris.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Thank you. Chris Alderson, a chief executive of Construction Health
and Safety in New Zealand. No doubt, if you've seen
it happen, it's happened in front of you. It would
really ram at home, wouldn't it. But you've got to
be safe. I saw a guy actually who was quite
a builder, who was going between two buildings on the
roof and he just put a plank of wood down
the other day. It would have been probably three more

(10:44):
than three meters high, and I did think there's it's
asking for trouble. Nineteen minutes after five news talks, he'd
be well, look at for those young people who are
in work, sorry, who are looking for work. We'll tell
you what you need to do to set yourself apart
from other employees, because obviously you haven't got the experience.
The job market at the moment is pretty loose. There

(11:06):
aren't that many jobs going around. You've got highest skilled
people coming in over the top of you trying to
take your work, your entry level work. So what do
you do? We'll talk about that next.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Views and Views you trust to start your day it's
earlier edition with Ryan Bridge at expol Insulation Keeping, Kiwi, Holmes,
Ward and Drey.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
This Winter News Talk sa'd be just gone twenty one
minutes after five. The UN's having a crack on Australia,
trying to tell them what to do this one over
climate change. We'll look at that after the news at
five point thirty with Donald to Mayo out of Australia
right now. It is harder for young people to get
a job at the moment, basically because there are a
fewer of them. Data from stats n Z shows nearly
thirty thousand jobs have disappeared from the job market in

(11:45):
the last year. On average, people under thirty have a
five point eight percent fewer jobs available than they did
last year. Zainab Ali is the CEO Youth Inspired with
me this morning Zane of Good morning, Good morning Ryan,
How are you very well? Thank you. Now your job
is to get young people into work, especially those from
poorer backgrounds. What are you seeing at the moment? Are

(12:08):
people a young people as prepared for work as they
have always been or is this a hard market for them?

Speaker 9 (12:17):
We are definitely feeling those stats in real life. It
is definitely harder at the moment to secure a job
as a young person compared to two to three years ago.
We've had to completely change the way we work at

(12:38):
Youth Inspire to ensure we still have ample, you know,
opportunities for our young people. So our change in tactic
has really been a reflection of how much harder it
has gotten out there.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
What have you changed, say, nib.

Speaker 9 (12:59):
I think really we've we've shifted completely away from you know,
back we've been around for eleven years and Ryan, back
in the day we could kind of go through these
amazing courses where we where we upskill down anatahi and

(13:20):
you know, some of the really important soft skills that
employers tell us that they need, work with them on
a the v and a cover letter and kind of
get them into the job market very relatively easily. Compared
to now, we've had to completely switch and we now,
I would say, in the last six months, have one

(13:42):
hundred percent relied on job opportunities through our relationships, through
with our small to medium business partners and the goodwill
of our local community.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
So yeah, why is that is that because the the
old wiy of throwing in a and a cover letter
to a random job is just not working anymore. There's
too many applicants.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much You've nailed it. That's exactly
what we're finding. On top of that, what we're seeing
employers tell us is for entry level jobs is also
a mass kind of run of overseas applications that come through,

(14:26):
and so employers are almost you know, it's a form
of fatigue, right, and you know, they go through seventy
applications before they get to the first one that's possibly
a local application. And so you know, internet based, you know,

(14:46):
websites like seek and trade me allow for a lot
of you know, applications that are just not suitable, and
so that paired with the fact that we do have
higher unemployment rates. For instance, Ryan, I've got a job,
you know, currently advertised, and the applications I'm getting, arguably,

(15:09):
I would say these are really over qualified candidates, you know,
that are applying for a more administration like jobs. So, yeah,
it's kind of too pronged. But essentially there's a lot
of people and not enough jobs. If that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, it makes perfect sense. Exactly what we're seeing in
the numbers, and obviously reflected on what you're doing on
the ground, so they't of appreciate your time this morning,
zain't have. Ali's CEO Youth Inspire. Job is to find work,
employment for young people who need it, who want it.
Basically the message here it's the old saying, it's who
you know, not what you know, isn't that twenty five

(15:46):
after five News Talk c B. We'll look at the
nurses strike, which by the way, is happening tomorrow. So
if you've got an appointment, if you've got a specialist
appointment at the hospital, then I'll have details next.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
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Speaker 2 (16:03):
News Talks AB is twenty eight minutes after five. If
you've got an appointment at the hospital this week, you
might want to check it's still going ahead. Why the
nurses are going on strike tomorrow and here are the
numbers for you. Kicks off at nine am tomorrow morning
and will last twenty four hours. Four thousand, three hundred
surgeries and specialist appointments are going to be affected. Thirty

(16:25):
six thousand nurses taking part. It's a complete withdrawal of labor.
It'll affect anywhere that health. New Zealand provides health or
hospital care, so your clinics but also your hospitals and
of course the middle of winter, so great timing. Nurses
union being bargaining the usual staff pay, staffing levels. Also
as usual they say it's life or death you will

(16:47):
be seen to. They had a bargaining meeting yesterday with
Health New Zealand obviously didn't go well. They've been bargaining
since last September. The nurses say two short staffed, and
your nurses who are leaving are not being replaced. However,
Health New Zealand says a new graduate nurse on seventy
five thousand dollars would get a total pay increase of

(17:09):
eight and a half thousand dollars. It's eleven percent by
the end of June next year. And what's more, they
say the average salary for both senior and registered nurses
including overtime allowances and penal rates of one hundred and
twenty five grand. Until these guys sought out who's right
and come to some sort of agreement, this may not
be the last hospital stripe that we patients must endure

(17:31):
this winter. Ryan Bridge coming up to News at five
point thirty back with our reporters after that, News Talks ad.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
B the news you need this morning and the in
depth analysis earlier edition with Ryan Bridge and ex Bowl
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
Me morning, get us twenty far away from six. You're
listening to newstalk, said be Ryan. It is simple to
anyone else who's looking at these numbers. This is the
jobless numbers from yesterday. If everyone has paid the same,

(18:19):
why would you take an inexperienced young person on with
no work history, says Cheryl. Cheryl, good morning. It's a
good point. That's why young people are missing out. We
just spoke to a careers advisor who's trying to get
young people into work and having quite a bit of trouble.
Maybe if they had the work ethic of the England

(18:39):
defender Lucy Bronze, they might be okay. This woman, young
woman took part in the Euro's final against Spain. Obviously
they won. There's going to be huge celebrations across London
with the buses. They're going to be on the buses
going through central London, so very exciting for them. So
that won the Euro's excellent and then the game finishes

(18:59):
in loose. He reveals actually she played the entire tournament
with basically a broken leg.

Speaker 10 (19:04):
I've actually planned the.

Speaker 11 (19:05):
Whole tournament of a fruction tibia, but no one knew,
and I've just hurt my knee today on the other leg.
I think that's why they got a lot of praise
from the girls left Sweden game, because I've been a
lot of pain. What That's what it takes to blaf
for England. That's where I'll do.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, so she's now a hero of course in the UK.
The team knew about the injury but kept it under wraps.
The tibia in case you haven't broken it or hurt
it before. That's your main weight bearing bone between your
knee and your ankle, so quite important, especially if you're
playing football. I would have fought twenty two minutes away
from Bryant Bridge. Let's got to our reporters around the country.

(19:41):
Rosie Leishman's and Duned and Rosie good Morning, Good Morning
paneled to decide whether periodic openings to the sea should
be allowed at the Southland Lagoon. Why is that?

Speaker 12 (19:53):
Yeah, so the Wayituna Lagoon is located southeast of in
the Cargo next to Toto's Bay and forms part of
an internationally significant wetland environment. Southland Petonga or our Wadowa
and the Department of Conservation are co applicants for this
new opening consent and the application attracted fifty one submissions
last year and over the next three days, nineteen submitters

(20:16):
will speak to a panel of three independent commissioners. Planning,
science and legally experts will also be present.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
All right, how's the weather.

Speaker 12 (20:25):
So it's a bit cloudy today with a few showers
most likely from this afternoon with some northeasterlies turning westerly tonight.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Nice one, Claire and christ Church Good morning, Claire, Good morning. Nay,
we've got staffing shortages. We've got nurses going on strike
because of staffing shortages tomorrow, but also South Island Hospital
raising the alarm about staffing.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Yeah, and this is after of course christ Church Hospital
yesterday were revealed as very understaffed and our Health New
Zealand has confirmed that they're working at pace to bolster
workforce at Timidu Hospital, where forty percent of resident doctor
roles are currently vacant. The Resident Doctor Association revealed there
are sixteen resident doctors working on a roster which needs
twenty seven to be fully staffed. It says that individual

(21:08):
doctors are ending up covering the workload of three. Health
New Zealand's Rachel Mills has responded to us saying, look,
this is a shortage. Indeed, it's been driven by several
doctors unexpectedly returning to the UK or taking roles elsewhere.
She says, while they're working on a long term fix,
they're also working with changing some clinical structures to free
up senior doctors time and also proactively engaging with agencies

(21:31):
in hopes of attracting locums.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
How's your weather clear?

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Mostly cloudy today, a shah or two possible northerly strong
and exposed places and a higher fifteen.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Nice one. Thank you to Wellington. Max is with us,
Hey Max, good morning. Wellington councilors the most complained about
in the country.

Speaker 8 (21:49):
Yeah, in this week's least surprising news. That's compared to
councilors and other regions and relates to complaints from staff
about counselors. And there were six official campaign complaints in
the past a year or so. We haven't been told
who these complaints were made about, exactly just what inappropriate
behavior on social media, speaking to staff in a demeaning

(22:10):
and aggressive way, defamation, threatening, bullying, false accusations, condescending and
politically intimidating behavior. For comparison, three christ Church councilors staff complaints,
two complaints about counselors in Auckland. Yeah, no big surprises here.
Wellington's been a toxic mess the past two and a
half years. It's very political, very dirty, very accusatory. The Mayor,

(22:33):
Tori Fano, says the long term plan process brought out
the worst in people, but she won't say whether she
is the subject of one of those complaints.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Ah is the clanger. What does politically intimidating mean?

Speaker 8 (22:48):
Well, I suppose vote this way or will ostracize you,
you know, if you're a labor affiliated counselor. For instance,
talking about the airport shares sale debate was awfully fierce
at the time.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, okay, because I guess everyone's just wondering. Are Wellington
City Council staff a bunch of wisses? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 8 (23:08):
You wouldn't find many who disagreed with that.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Okay. How's the weather max.

Speaker 8 (23:13):
Rain increasing as the day goes on, strong southerlyast fifteen
the hay All right, thank.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
You neither good morning morning, good morning. You get a
homeless update, yes, now.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Look, our housing spokesperson says that the homelessness growth around
the country's matching the rate of Auckland. That's not going
to come as a surprise to many. So this is
the figures that were collated by Auckland Council and they
show the number of rough sleepers in the areas almost
doubled in less than a year. There were apparently eight
hundred and nine homeless people. That was in May, ninety

(23:42):
percent more than in September. So I Hudson, he is
speaking on behalf of the Salvation Army. He's saying that, Look,
they're hearing the same thing from communities nationwide. Some places. Look,
there's just isn't enough housing. We know that, and you
know this conversation has been going on and in other areas.
He's saying that people aren't being referred for housing.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Interesting. My friend lives in near the city, central City,
and she goes down and often will chat to the
homeless down in the park. She said the other day
the council was there pulling all of their stuff out
of the year. When they went there, they were pulling
all the tents out and sleeping bags, stuff that she'd
actually donated to them. And then they go and store
it somewhere, which sounds like a bit of it.

Speaker 10 (24:23):
And then what happens and so did they think about
it at night or they don't have them? They're just
cold and shivering.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
They don't have them. Apparently it's a policy that they
do to try and get them into some sort of housing. Yeah,
you almost sort of negotiate once you've done that.

Speaker 10 (24:36):
But issues issues is not it doesn't happen Overnight's the
weather Neva rain, rain, and are very blustery, strong ones
here in Auckland, sixteen high nice one.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
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Speaker 1 (26:11):
International correspondence with enzed Eye Insurance Peace of mind for
New Zealand business gets thro a.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
US correspondent just a few moments first, though, do Ona
to Mayow out of Australia, do on a good morning.

Speaker 13 (26:21):
Good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
So the UN is putting the episcy little nose in
your business now and is saying to you basically, when
it comes to climate change, aim a little higher.

Speaker 13 (26:33):
Yes, be more ambitious on climate action. These words from
the UN's Climate Chief Simon Steele. He was speaking at
an event hosted by the Smart Energy Council, and he's
saying that Australia should really be more ambitious. As we've mentioned,
he said colossal economic rewards could be reaped by aiming higher. Now,

(26:54):
Australia has pledged to reduce emissions by forty three percent
by twenty thirty. However, it is reported that we remain
one of the biggest polluters per capita, and there has
been some criticism for the continuing reliance on fossil fuel.
Now these comments come as the Opposition MP Barnaby Joyce
former WUTPM Mandu he has moved a bill to overturn

(27:17):
Australia's goal of net zero emission by twenty fifty. We
also know the Labor government is currently considering its new
reduction target by for twenty thirty five. I should say
now that's going to be announced in September. So mister
Steele says that failure to go big it can risk
regional stability and living standards, as he put it, considered

(27:39):
the alternative missing this opportunity and letting the world overheat.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I'm not sure saying aim when it comes to a
missions aim higher is the right language to use. Oh yeah,
actually he's got it around the wrong way, Donna, thank
you for that. Donald Australia correspondent just gone eleven minutes
away from Sex Great so Trump new deadline for Russia,
new deadline for Russia. Trump's giving potin a deadline of

(28:05):
ten or twelve days to make a deal with over Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
I'm going to make a new deadline of about ten,
ten or twelve days from today. There's no reason in waiting.
There's no reason in waiting. It's fifty days. I want
to be generous, but we just don't see any progress
being made.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
So he did give fifty days. You'll remember otherwise he said,
very severe terrorists will be coming to Russia and Russia's
trading partners, which would of course include China, so what
happens here? Tony Waterman, US correspondent, feature story in News Tony,
good morning, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 14 (28:43):
Good morning, Thanks for having me, Tony.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
What is anyone taking this seriously? I mean, when you
give a deadline of fifty days and then you come
and say, no, we've got a new deadline. It could
be ten, it could be twelve. We're not sure.

Speaker 14 (28:56):
Yeah, I mean, the President has been for months now
giving a two week deadline to the Kremlins. So when
the fifty day deadline was announced earlier this month, everybody
said that is an extremely long runway for Russia, and
everybody kind of shrugged it off. So whether or not
we see anything in the next ten to twelve days

(29:17):
is really.

Speaker 9 (29:18):
Up to Putin.

Speaker 14 (29:19):
At this point, we haven't heard anything any sort of
response from the Kremlin to this latest move by Trump,
but Dmitri Mendettev, who is the former Russian president, set
on social media that Trump's playing the ultimatum game with Russia,
but that Trump should remember Russia is an Israel, that
it's not Iran, and that each new ultimatum is a

(29:40):
threat and a step towards war, not between Russia and Ukraine.
But a war with his own country. So he's implying,
of course, that these types of games could lead to
a war between the United States and Russia. But the
President earlier today repeated what has now become sort of
his common refrain, saying that he's disappointed.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
For not ending this war.

Speaker 14 (30:02):
He feels as if he's been strung along that the
Russian president has signaled that he would take these peace
negotiations seriously and then is bombing the Smithereens out of
Ukraine the following day.

Speaker 9 (30:13):
So ten to twelve.

Speaker 14 (30:14):
Days, he left the door open for more negotiations, saying
that a deal could be reached. But you're right with
the secondary tariffs that he's threatening if this deadline is
not met, one hundred percent tariffs on any country that
buys Russian energy. That is going to impact not just
China but also Russia, who are huge consumers of Russian oil.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah. It's fascinating, isn't it, Because on the same day
you've got him saying I'll move the deadline for China
on tariffs and extend that this is the more substantive
trade talk. You've also got him saying I'll reduce the
deadline on Russia and that could potentially bring an even
bigger tariffs for the lives of China.

Speaker 9 (30:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (30:54):
I mean with this trade ward that the President kicked
off in April and then paused and is now scrambling
to make all of these trade negotiations, one of the
countries that was not included, almost the only country that
was not included was Russia itself. It somehow dodged the
trade war bullet when he made the announcement on Liberation Day.
But you're right, they could be now facing not just

(31:16):
more sanctions, which the President talked about today, didn't give details,
but said he would impose more sanctions, but also a
one hundred percent tariff on countries that trade with Russia
that's on goods coming into the United States. So it's
American public again that will be paying the price for that.
But they could be at the losing end of the stick.

(31:37):
But again, for months and months and months now, Donald
Trump has given Russia two weeks to come to the
negotiating table to take this seriously, and its point, Russia
just seems to be shrugging that thread off.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Tony. You appreciate you Tom this morning, Tony Wodam and
US correspondent Fiature storying news. It's seven minutes away from
six o'clock. They French, by the way, don't like the deal,
with the eight year America deal. They the Prime Minister.
They're calling it a dark day for Europe. When one
of your allies, he says, it is a dark day
when an alliance of free peoples brought together to affirm
their common values and to defend their common interest resigns

(32:12):
itself to submission. French not liking that deal at all.
Maloney and Mertz of Germany both welcoming the move. It
is seven to six news talk, said B.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and x Fole insulation keeping Kiwi
Holmes warm and dry this winter news talk.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Said B. Five to six. After the war in Ukraine,
the Russians said, nowhere to go on holiday because the
West wouldn't really accept them anymore and or want them anymore.
They were worried about that. So there is a new
option for those living in Russia. It is a flights
to Pyeongyang. Yes, you can go visit North Korea and
feel free and liberated on holiday from Russia. There is

(32:55):
a new flight that's going to be operated by nord
Wynd Airlines. It's going to operate once a month, beautiful,
lovely nature walks and of course you can check out
the labor camps while you're there. Four minutes away from
six Ryan Bridge, might's hear with us this morning, Mike,
you're talking about surcharges on your credit cards this morning,
amongst other things.

Speaker 15 (33:14):
We are going to cover though the atmospheric river. Well
there's I think eighteen nineteen twenty three, thirty seven, could
be forty two where the warning's out this morning, Ryan,
and I think we need to take this seriously.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
They're any orange? Are they?

Speaker 15 (33:29):
Are they orange? Could they be read though?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
They go red? Look, I'm not going to talk down
weather warnings. I'm not. Why not? Why not? Well it's
a dangerous game. Do you think there might be too
many weather warnings?

Speaker 15 (33:41):
Do you think it might have become a thing and
we might be a bit obsessed about it? Yes, we
are going to do this charge.

Speaker 9 (33:46):
Do we have a poor.

Speaker 15 (33:47):
Mind set in this country? A poor person's mindset in
this country?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Every time it's something comes as long ago.

Speaker 15 (33:51):
I'm going to pass that on can I'm going to
give back to somebody else.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Do we have a poor business mindset? Or are we
just poor?

Speaker 15 (33:57):
Could we just could be because we're just poor? Couldn't
we anyway? Start shortly?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Happy Tuesday? Everyone Said Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
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