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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture bands and a player store news Dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning at a six after five. Welcome
to your Wednesday. How much time and money will we
really save from these trade consenting changes? We'll ask that
question just before six this morning, Truancy. The numbers are
really really bad. Do we really need post shops? Do
we really need mail boxes? We'll ask that question too,
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Plus Gavin Gray and the UK.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It is Wednesday, the thirtieth of October. Israel's parliament has
officially passed two laws banning the United Nations Relief Agency
from operating in Israel.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
They really play an irreplaceable role right now in Gaza.
We're there on the front lines getting humanitarian assistants to
the people they needed. There's nobody that can replace them
right now in the middle of the crisis. So we
continue to urge the government of Israel to pause the implementation.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The new laws come into force in three months time,
which is when everyone's worried about the food and the
aid and etc. Getting through. Russia has taken control of
the key city of Salvadov in southeastern Ukraine. It had
been used as a staging area for Ukraine's forces trying
to stop Russia from advancing further into the Danetsk region.
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Over in Australia, Elbows on the defense over his free
flight upgrades.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, let's be clear about this. So I've been completely
transparent about this. All of my flights have been declared
in an appropriate way, just as petered up and declared
he's flights or some of his.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Flights oppositionally to Peter, and Duston speaking of him, says
Elbow should refer himself to a corruption inquiry over the upgrades.
In the US, bank, JP Morgan Chase is taking some
customers to court. Have been accused of taking advantage of
system error that became known as the infinite money glitch
on social media. Users would write a check to themselves,
(02:07):
withdraw the money before the check was cleared, and Huila,
they had the cash. The era was fixed after multiple
videos explaining how to do it and get free money.
We're posted online.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
News and views you trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
News Talk Z people are stupid, aren't they? Why would
you post it online if you're breaking the law, if
you're stealing essentially stealing money from a bank One News.
I just heard Neva mention in the news at the
top of the hour that one News and TV and
Z that they are potentially looking at a subscriber a
payment model for TV and Z plus. Would you pay
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money to access TVNZ plus their streaming service? I would
pay something to get the news. Would I pay something
to get New Zealan drama? Probably not. I just think
others do it better. The Americans do it better. The
British do it better, don't they? They just have bigger budgets,
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better productions. Do I need to hear it all done?
And in a Keywi accent? Personally, it's not for me.
I'd love to know what you think, though. Nine two
nine two is the number to text this morning. It
has just gone nine minutes after five. These numbers on
truancy are truly shocking. Well are they shocking at this point?
I mean, you know we've been hearing about this for
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a long time now. One in ten students, this is
ten percent. We're chronically absent in term two of twenty
twenty four. Now that rate has doubled. Chronically absent students
doubled in secondary schools and nearly trebled in primary schools
since twenty fifteen. That's not good. They are unlikely these
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students to achieve NCAA, to have high they will have
higher rates of offending and they are more likely to
be victims of crime as well. The cost, this is
the interesting part. By the age of twenty they cost
the government almost three times as much as students who
do go to school regularly. So they are a burden
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for all of us. And this is why David Seymour
is so up in arms about the absenteeism and the truancy, etc.
So we're going to talk about that with someone who
is whose job it is to go out and find
these young people and get them back into school. We're
going to do that right after the break. It's just
gone ten minutes after five bread Rich. Lots more to
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talk about this morning, too, including weapons. You know, we've
got a war in the Middle East, we've got a
war in Europe, and the potential for conflict in the Pacific,
and the Wall Street Journal has a very interesting piece
out this morning on what that means for the United
States stockpile of weapons should we need them, and we
would be the ones that need them down here in
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the Pacific, wouldn't we. So we'll look at that in
the next half an hour as well. You're on news Talk,
there'd be Wednesday morning a s.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
A through the Wind, the news you need this morning
and the in depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge
and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
News Talk said, be welcome back thirteen after five year
on news Talk said be Donald Trump's just given an
address at Mara Lago, his fancy estate in Florida. Have
a listened.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
In less than four years, Kamala Harris has obliterated our borders,
obliterated We've never had a situation like this, decimated the
middle class, and runaway inflation has caused problems the likes
of which we never thought possible.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What he's done has got up on stage some voters,
probably Republicans you would imagine, but got them up on
stage to tell everybody how badly they've been stung and
hurt by Biden harris economic policy over the past four years.
It is fourteen after five, Ryan Bridge. Chronic absence in
our schools has doubled over the past decade. The Education
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Review Office says we're at crisis point as one in
ten students missed thirty percent or more of Term two
this year. It found the cost of tax payers as
massive as I mentioned earlier. When a chronically absent student
reaches age twenty five, on average, they will cost the
government three times as much as someone who regularly attends school.
Adam de Cork is the Tupurrangi Attendance Service practice lead.
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He joins us this morning.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
Good morning, Hey, good morning Ryan, Thanks for having.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Me, Thanks for being with me. Adam, tell me what
your job is. Do you go out and find students
who are absent?
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Sure? So I co lead to GUANA Attendance Service with
market A. Hanson James, and we have a team of
seven point four staff that are responsible for two hundred
and fifty schools across Canterbury and our job is to
go out and not necessarily find We get allocated cases
through a Ministry of Education website called ASA that's a database.
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But a lot of the times, as the report mentions,
we cannot find those students and that is a huge
amount of time that is lost with our staff. And
so that's one of the issues that report highlights.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So you got how can you not find them? Do
they not have an address or is the address wrong?
Speaker 7 (07:21):
That is frequently the case, and is the report mentioned
it takes a lot of collaboration with other agencies to
find those students, and that for us is it's definitely
not a waste of time because those kids need to
support the most, but we just need systems that are
a bit more efficient to make our job easier to
do and to find those students faster.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
When you do find them, what are they doing?
Speaker 7 (07:45):
So if you look at what we're dealing with a
cross cases, we're dealing with a lot of intergenerational trauma, addiction,
mental health, and the effects of colonization, and so there
is just a different mindset of what's important in regards
to education and for requently in that space that's called
the non enrolled students space, those kids just haven't been
engaged with education for quite some time, and so our
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goal is to kind of get the family back on
board and give them some options of education. And what
that means for each family.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Is very different. So are they you turn up when
you do find them, they're at a house somewhere. Are
they stoned or high or what? Are they just sitting around?
Are they working?
Speaker 7 (08:28):
No, that's that's kind of that stereotypical view of what
those folks are are in And that's not always the case.
A lot of the times, like I mentioned before, we're
dealing with families that it intergenerational trauma and there's a
lot of things going on in their lives in the background,
and education is just not a top priority. So you know,
we always go in with benefit of the doubts and
very rarely is it just a lazy family who doesn't
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want to go to school.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Very rarely that case, I totally understand that, But I'm
just curious, what are they doing if not school?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
That's that's a great question. And a lot of the
times nothing. A lot of the times it's very just
based around playing video games and hanging out at home, right,
And that's a real loss for that child because, as
you mentioned before, a kid who's not at school by
the time their twenty is costing three times the amount
for the government as opposed to a kid who is
going to school and so if you look at developmentally
as well, that's just a massive loss for that child
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in the potential future.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh, it's terrible, terrible for everybody involved, including all of us.
What absolutely what is the you know, you said, there's
something you can do to make your systems more efficient
once you know at finding them. What's your success rate
like at getting those kids, those chronic ones actually back
into school.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
It varies widely across the country. Here in Canterbury, when
we are able to make engagement with a school in
a student in that non enrolled space, we do have
a pretty high success rate. But the report also highlights
that piece that a kid who engages with our service
usually will go back to school those first couple of months,
but over time we'll fall back off right and for us,
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us that's the huge loss is a lack of resources
and funding. As I mentioned prior, we only have seven
point four fte across two hundred and fifty schools and
so we're massively underfunded and for us, a real simple
fix would be to have more funding, and that's what
the report recommends.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's quite embalance to the bottom of the cliff, though,
isn't it, Because as you said, once once the disengagement
has begun, it's very hard to get it back on track.
I mean you almost need to have all of that
funding going at five year olds, you know, because.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
That is absolutely that is part of our trias processes
working with a younger age group. But you know, for us,
if we did have more funding and we did have
more case managers working on those cases, we could receive
them more quickly. And the report highlights that as well,
that cases are not seen to in a timely manner,
and that's purely because of case load. We for example,
have a wait list of hundreds and so if we
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had more staff we could definitely make that happen. But
for us, it's a real loss and we definitely want
to be there for those families that want our support.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Thank you so much for your time this morning, Adam
to Cork with us. He is the to put on
your attendance service practice lead. As he said, they have
a lot of trouble finding these chronically truant kids, but
then also the success rate of keeping them in school
long term is not great either. Nineteen after five nine
two nine two is the numbers text. If you have
a view on this, I can see many of you
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do already. We'll get to those next.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a play at store News Talk City.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Good Morning New Zealand twenty one after five lots of
you have views on truancy. Ryan is a recently retired
teacher of fifty three years. Wow, that's an innings. I
am horrified at the number of school aged children in
North City Plaza and Pottydoa during the school day. Where
are the truancy officers. Surely the parents of these children
should be targeted to justify their children's absence from school.
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Mauls are a great place to start, says Murray in Portidoa. Murray,
thanks for your message this morning. It's twenty two. After
as rare as students in class, potentially mail boxes and
post offices, The Ministry for Business, Innovation and Employment is
proposing New Zealand post mail deliveries be cut to twice
a week. This is in towns and cities, rural areas
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from five times weekly down to three and reducing the
minimum number of postal shops from eight hundred and eighty
to five hundred. It says people are sending eight hundred
and thirteen million fewer male items than they were twenty
years ago. Mariy Fitzpatrick is with Rural Women New Zealand.
She's the chief executive. She's with us Live this morning.
Good morning, Good morning Roe, Marie. Nice to have you
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on the show. You're obviously not on board with this.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
That's a fair assessment. We're pretty still at the depth
of these cuts and it's really disappointing that New Zealand
Posts abandoning its quality of service and putting commercial violuity
ahead at the needs of rural New Zealanders.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What is so crucial for rural kiwis that you need
five times a week instead of three.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Well, if it starters, there's an assumption that we do
everything online, and for you and I who cite, that's
probably true. But in rural communities, not everybody has access
to reliable, steady internet, or that internet can be extortionately
expensive if you have to result the satellite or other.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
Things like that.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
So for some more vulnerable rural communities that really really
has a significant impact. Dropping from five days to two.
New Zealand Posts recently dropped from six days to five
in rural communities and that has already had a profound
impact on those communities.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What impact has it had? What does it meant to people?
Speaker 8 (13:36):
Well starters, people get more than just their post. I
think this consultation document focuses on male specifically and excludes
career parcels and things like that that New Zealand Post
delivers through its Career Post network. If you live rurally,
that happens in the same van, so it's not like
the Post is delivering my mail here in Wellington and
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then I get my career packages every day, regardless if
your career packages contain your insulin or important medication or
important medication for your animals. If you're on a farm,
for example, having that cut to three days a week
can be really significant.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Wouldn't you just order more earlier?
Speaker 8 (14:17):
Probably if you was looking about five days to sit
six days to five, but you know five days down
to three, and you know the detail, and that's not
necessarily proposing to be alternative days. It could be consecutive
days and then nothing for a week.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah. Look, I have sympathy for you because and for
rural people, because my family, some of my family lives,
really and they chew my ear off about this. But
I just think if it's going to be that as
expensive as they say it is to maintain these services,
and it's kind of a no brainer, I don't know,
well it is.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
And this is a state owned enterprise, so the State
Owned Enterprises Act, so this proposal is consulting on the
deed of understanding. But the state owned Enterprises that has
a number of principles. One is that they need to
be commercially viable, correct, But there are other parts of
those principles which are ensure that these date don't enterprises
exhibit a sense of social responsibility and have a regard
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to the interests of the community in which it's creating.
And we just want the government to consider the needs
of rural communities as well as the commercial viability of
this organization and we think there's a way to balance
that better than this proprisal does.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Marie, thank you very much for your call. I can
see we're getting lots of feedback on this. Funne already.
Maury Fitzpatrick the Royal Women, Sorry, Rural Women, New Zealand
Chief Executive twenty six after five News Talks VB the early.
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Would you happily return to a level for lockdown tomorrow?
Would you happily keep your kids home from school and
wear a mask if the government told you? I wouldn't
be leaving to repeat our COVID experiment quickly, and neither
would most Australians. It turns out, the year long COVID
inquiry released yesterday found that, unsurprisingly quote, many of the
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measures taken during COVID nineteen are unlikely to be accepted
by the population. Again, just thirty percent of ossies thought
the government did the right thing at the height of
the pandemic. And I expect that our COVID inquiries will
produce similar survey results. If we're given the chance to answer,
we lock people down with no end in sight. On
the advice of experts. Yes, they offered valid health advice,
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but that advice was too often taken as gospel and
swallowed hootline and sinker to hell with the havoc. It
wreacked on it on most of us, who sort of
blindly and obediently carried out their wishes. Think inflation, asset
price booms, wealth gaps, social isolation, social disunity, student under achievement.
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We're talking about absenteasm this morning, youth anxiety, trust in
the media, trust in vaccines, I mean, you name it.
The question now is really one of trust. Will you
trust the same experts and politicians giving the same advice
and making the same decisions should another virus attack? It
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seems the Aussies have emphatically answered no, and I suspect
most kiwis will do the same, Ryan Bridge, twenty nine
Up to five Lots more to come, including the new
rules the government's introducing. We're going to talk to a
plumber about whether it will save you time and money
on your next build.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, You for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture bids and a player store News Talk, said B.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Good morning everyone, it is twenty four minutes away from Sex.
You're listening to news Talk, said B. Coming up inside
the next half an hour, We're going to our reporters
around the country to check and plus Gavin Gray and
the UK Greg Master, sorry, Greg Wallace is the master
Plumber's chief executive. He will tell us whether we will
save any money anytime on the government's proposed changes to consenting.
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Will it actually make things cheaper and easier for us
if we're getting reno's done in the bathroom, etc. We'll
ask them shortly, right now, loads of your feedback, so
much feedback on COVID, so much feedback on TV and
Z plus potentially charging for the service. But by far
and away, the biggest issue for you this morning is
the rural delivery and the prospect of in z Post
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cutting back on deliveries and also Post officers. Right, let's
get to some of it now, Ryan, we live rually
but only two kilometers out of town. Aramex have figured
out that we are close enough to be included as
urban when they deliver, so we always use them where possible,
says Tony. Tony, that's lucky for you, Ryan. Three days
a week is fine for Posts. I never understand why
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they make post his work on a Saturday. They only
deliver bills and the crap that I don't want and
it can wait till Monday. Ryan, I've been doing a
rural delivery for sixty years. Wow. We had a teacher
fifty three years deep. A couple of texts back. Now
we've got a rural deliver A rural delivery sixty years
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in the job. It was three days a week when
I started, says Steve. Hmm, so maybe we've just got
gotten used to the increased frequency. Ryan. I like to
send all of my grandkids' birthday cards, but by normal
mail it takes weeks, so I have to send it
by overnight careers so they get there in time. Yeah.
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Do you know what I do think though? When I
see that text and thank you for the message. It's
lovely to hear from you, But I do think if
you can send a text message to me this morning
from your rural address, do you really need mail five
times a week? Twenty two to six, Brian Bridge, We're
going to our reporters now. Calum is in Dunedan. Callum,
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good morning. A hot new ticket item is heading Dunedin streets.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
Your morning, Ryan. The city's edition of Monopoly officially launches
this morning. Dunedin's Monopoly board includes iconic sites like the University,
the world's steepest streets on their Baldwyn Street, also Castle
Street and the Octagon. The two premiere Dark Blue properties
have been assigned to larn At Castle and the Dannedan
Railway Station. A winning Moves Monopoly manager Dale Hacketts told
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us they received hundreds of suggestions from locals with ideas
of what places should feature on the Dunedin board, so
he says, a lot of work's gone in to ensure
that it truly honors Dunedin.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
There you go.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
How's your weather mainly fine, few spots of afternoon rain
at eighteen today brilliant.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Thank you Clears and chrishus this morning as she always
is clear. Good morning to you.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
A new studies highlighting the mental health burden of the
Mosk attacks.
Speaker 11 (20:51):
Yeah, this study is just out this morning, Ryan, It's
from Otago University researchers. They followed almost one hundred and
ninety of the two hundred and fifty survivors as well
as bereaved family members for the first three years following
the March fifteen attack. Now they found that more than
sixty percent of people had developed PTSD, anxiety, or major
depressive disorders, and in some instance it's a combination of
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all three. Lead author doctor Rakaiah Suleiman Hills says a.
Speaker 12 (21:17):
Huge figure was a surprise.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
She says.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Three quarters of those people were also diagnosed, as I said,
with a combination of multiple mental health issues. So this
is the first time we've seen the evidence of the impact.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I guess all right, how's your weather?
Speaker 11 (21:31):
Mostly cloudy with some rain clearing early this morning to
find southwesterly's turning north easterly and a high.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Of sixteen clear. Thank you, Max. You had a long
week here, a long long weekend, but you're back now.
What have you been looking into? The Virgin Mary? Max.
We don't seem to have Max just yet. We'll get
to Max in a second. Neva is an orphan with us. Neva,
good morning.
Speaker 12 (21:54):
I was wasted with hanging on every word thinking.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
What the Virgin Mary. Hey, I've got a letter for
us this morning, Yes, a Lissaday.
Speaker 12 (22:02):
Is it a fan letter or is it one of those.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well we could call it a bit of both. This
is from water Care. Yesterday you mentioned the water and
all kind. Remember they were saving seven million liters a
day pipes and we were musing about.
Speaker 11 (22:18):
We were amused.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
They were amusing about whether whether having shorter showers would
save as much water or not. Now, water Care wrote
to me and they said I was listening to you
and neither this morning. Apparently the average shower time in
New Zealand is about eight minutes if one yeah, I
know it's quicker. If one point seven million Aucklanders cut
four minutes off their daily shower us saving forty eight
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liters each, together we would save eighty million liters per day. Wow,
way more than the seven million they save from pipes.
So anyway, there you go.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
So do you go?
Speaker 12 (22:50):
So that means mind you We've talked about this before
where I think I have more showers a day than
you because I have like three and you have two
a day.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You do look very clean. I've rowed up all standards.
Speaker 12 (23:02):
At four am, I think I'm the only person who
has a shower here from the early team O Hosking.
Does you know getting up at three am or in
the morning. Yeah, you don't cher the morning.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
K Road they need actually a shower for K Road.
We've lost Max by the way, so tell us about
K Road.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (23:19):
So we've gone from showers to poos and wheeze on
K road. Dung a happy road in Auckland. So businesses,
I really feel for the businesses here. They're fed up
with the lack of public toilets. This is on that
iconic k Road street because some of them, you know,
they after the weekends and that the business owners they've
got to turn up, they turn up to their places
in the morning and they've got to clean up the
human waste outside their shopfronts every morning exactly. I know,
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I hope people aren't having their breakfast. So there used
to be that public toilet just off Bereford Square, you know,
but then that was removed because of the construction of
the City Rail Link, So that's part of the problem.
They didn't have public lose there. They've taken it away
from the Corl Link and now you know, business owners
had to do that and they go, we need they
need a public toilet, they need something.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's pretty bad down there. Have you Have you been
to Caro lately? Honestly that the people there's some people
there that probably.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
Need a good wash, don't need like a twenty minute.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Showers throwing it at you.
Speaker 12 (24:14):
To be honest, I'm going to say something quickly. We've
just been having a little wee meeting in the newsroom
and we thought we should do a week dress up
because you know for Halloween tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Oh right, do you think that's a good idea?
Speaker 12 (24:26):
You're breaking treats.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Good weather today in Auckland.
Speaker 12 (24:29):
A few showers becoming widespread this morning, possible possible thunderstorms Inhale.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
This morning? Seventeen's a high, seventeen away from six. Thank you, Neva.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You're on News talk s HEADB International correspondence with Ends
and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You're on News Talks B. I'm Ryan Bridget. It's quarter
to sex and we've got breaking news out of the UK.
Gavin Gray is with us this morning. Gavin, an update
on the teenager accused of murdering three young girls in Southport.
What have you learned?
Speaker 13 (24:58):
Well, we now know that the detectives who were investigating
those stabbings on the twenty ninth of July in northwest
England also searched his property and there they are reporting
that they discovered ricin, which is a type of chemical weapon,
but also basically evidence documents that the person they're saying
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was committing to or preparing an act of terrorism. It
was said that he had a military study of an
al Qaeda training manual and was in possession of that.
So the eighteen year old has now likely to appear
in court tomorrow. This news is coming in that'll be
in a London court. Counter Terrorism police have not declared
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the matter a terrorist incident. That's more a technicality than
anything else. This discovery though quite a shock. You'll remember
that Axel Rudo Bakana was scheduled to appear in court
over the stabbings of the three young girls aged six,
seven and nine who were at to Taylor swifteen dance class.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It was a very very sad story. Indeed, this story
is a quite incredible We know about the Russian spy
Sergo Scripple and his daughter Julia who are poisoned with
navachok in the UK, but we've just learned through an
inquiry about another victim.
Speaker 13 (26:16):
Yeah. Now we do know somebody died of this having
been exposed to novichok because it was stored in a
perfume bottle and they picked up the perfum bottle thought
it was an expensive gift and sadly they died. And
we also know from earlier evidence in the inquiry Ran
that there was enough navichok in that bottle to kill
thousands of people were Now our materializes that a boy came
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into contact with Sergei Scrippel, the form of Russian spy,
the target of the Novi Chok attack, on the day
he and his daughter were poisoned and believed or not,
the Boilo with two others were basically by the river
in Salisbury, by a pond and were helping serge Scrippel
feed the ducks. And they did exchange a bit of
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bread build a look of CCTV to feed the ducks.
Now you might think, what big deal, but of course
Novichok is Holly bison Us and this idea that you know,
this boy was in contact with circa script Bell. The
police did trace him as part of the investigation, and
all the boy had was just he was mildly ill
for a day or two after the encounter. I mean
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extraordinarily lucky, bearing in mind the effect that Novichok had
on the others, and I'm afraid really does feed into
what the Britons are saying here, which Russia is denying,
which is effectively Russia callously tried to carry out the
killing a one person book foot at risk many many
thousands of others.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Gevin, thank you for those updates this morning. Devin Gray,
are you can Europe correspondent, It's twelve to six Brian Bridge.
The government's planning to hand tradees the power to consend
basic housing projects. Businesses with a proven track record, such
as those building hundreds of near identical homes each year,
will be able to exist extremely consent process. Plumbers and
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drain layers will also be able to certify their own
low and general risk work without needing the Council concentraal
inspection or anything like that, just like electricians and gas
fitters who can already self certify at the moment. Greg
Wallace is the Master Plumber's chief executive. He's with us
live this morning. Greg, Good morning, welcome to the show.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Good morning, Ryan, great to be on, Thanks for being
with me.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
What types of jobs are we talking about here?
Speaker 9 (28:26):
Look, it's low risk. It's normally your DJ, your Jenny
in or your single level new house build. Awesome minor
renovations we're talking about, Ryan, were.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Like, you get if you're putting new toilet, shower and etc.
Does that need to be go through hoops at the moment?
Speaker 9 (28:46):
Well, if a pumber comes into your house, Ryan, and
just moves the bathroom fixes around existing bathroom Schedule one.
You need no consent for that, so you can move
the toilet, shower base and all around in different positions
the Schedule one the Building Act allows you to do that.
If you add one foot onto your bathroom at home,
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you then have to go through a consent and get
about four inspections, which really does add to the cost
and time for construction. So the whole concept about this
is getting more productivity in the construction industry and lowering
costs for consumers.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So those types of renods would be included here if
you were moving a bathroom or you were making a
bathroom bigger look.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
Extensions, when you're adding an on seite to bathroom, we
hope they will be included. Those are the details that
the government still has to come through with their consultation,
but we deem that as low risk, absolutely, And it's
a bit like the granny flat, Ryan, where there's sixty
square meters and obviously they have a bathroom in a
kitchen and they're going to be non consented and non
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inspected as well.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
True, so it's kind of apples and apples there isn't it.
How much time and or money do you think this
could save us?
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Well, the significant delays in consenting and inspections, particularly when
we had an eight year high of the construction sector.
So we're talking. You know, consent from million dollar home
can be anything north of ten thousand dollars. But it's
really the productivity goings that we'll get. You can rate
now in clean Sound between fifteen and twenty days for
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a pre line inspection and sometimes because there's four inspections,
you're getting to high levels of productivity that you're waiting
around for a process to happen of red tape that
you've got to trust your trades people to be able
to do it and then back them with good guarantees
and insurance programs.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
How do we separate the good eggs from the bad eggs,
the good trades from the bad ones.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
Yeah, so that's what their creditation program that the Prime
Minister and Minister Ping talked about. You'll have to prove
your quality. I mean what I would say is guestedting's
been self certified for fourteen years now a lot with
our friends the electricians, and we just don't have significant
issues for that trade. A guest is ninety nine deceived,
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also a plumber and a dream rayer. So we're hoping
that the quality that the guest for the industry has
shown New Zealand consumers will flow through to plumbing into Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'm really hopeful that this will speed up the renos
I want to do in my house. So I'm very
appreciative of you're coming on this morning. Appreciate it, Greg,
Thank you, Thanks Ron. Greg Wallace, Master Plumbers, Chief Executive.
These changes are as Greg mentioned, They've still got a
lot of hoops to get through, but hopefully they will
be coming into force next year sometime. It is just
gone eight minutes away from six News Talks There be.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and
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Speaker 2 (31:52):
News Talks said be six to six on News Talk
said be China has a new richest person. Not the
richest man anymore, it's the richest person. This is the
co founder of TikTok. The parent company is Byte Dance.
His name is Xiang Yiming and this is according to
the Haran Research Institute Rich List. They bring it out
every year, he's worth forty nine billion American dollars. That
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is forty three percent more than he was worth in
twenty twenty three, which just tells you how big TikTok
has become. Interestingly, this is the eighteenth new number one
that we've had in China in the last twenty six years.
They've had eighteen new richest people in the space of
twenty six years. In the United States, they've had just
four Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Jeff Bezos, and Elon Musk,
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which I guess shows you how quickly one how dynamic
the economy is there but lots of new companies springing
up and bouncing around in value five away from six
and Mike is with your next Mike, good morning morning.
It's a lot of money, isn't it?
Speaker 14 (32:53):
Well, it is, but doesn't show you how behind China
is because isn't Bezos and Masking?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, hundreds of billions?
Speaker 14 (33:00):
It's chump change.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And what's this business?
Speaker 14 (33:04):
Jump change? What's the business of this? I didn't know
it was going on. So you deliberately go on TikTok
and you buy more stuff than you need to bring
it home and try it on clothes, this is try
it on and then to send it back. It's a
major thing. And the weirdest thing is I just find
it unbelievably inconvenient. I've never ordered any clothing online for
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the simple reason you have got no idea whether it
fits right. That's true, and why do you take that risk,
Because then you've got to go find your envelope, take
it back down to New Zealand Post, which is you've
already pointed out it's not open anymore, and you've got
to send it back. And yet people seem happy to
just it's a globe.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It is free to send it back. I know they
do three velope. You're just still got to take it down.
But do they wear it out to an event?
Speaker 14 (33:49):
Maybe it's exactly what's going on, right, It's exactly what's
going on. That's not honest to say, No, it's not
remotely honest, right, But anyway, we'll look at this business
of building houses cheaper.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
After seven Mike's next, I'll be back tomorrow. I have
a great day.
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