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August 8, 2024 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Friday the 9th of August, The Government's plan to replace Three Waters is out, it will allow council controlled organisations to borrow and invest in their local water infrastructure. Auckland Councillor Daniel Newman joins the show.

New instructions for Oranga Tamariki - but is it going to make a difference? Charity BlueLight speak to Ryan.

Would Government intervention make a difference to our struggling energy sector? Energy Resources Aotearoa have some suggestions and Chief Executive John Carnegie shares with Ryan.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store news Dogs.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be good morning and welcome to your Friday. It
is great to be with you this morning. Lots to
get through. Another one has bitten the dust. This is
pan Pack, a Kiwi timber manufacturer. They've had to hold
their pulp production. And this is Hawk's Bay energy prices.
We're talking about that again and what can the government

(00:35):
actually do about it. That's at five twenty, although we
may be moving interviews around again this morning because Elise
Andrews is going for Gold and the women's care and
this is cycling. The final is going to take place
sometime inside the next half an hour and will take
you there live and after five thirty persons really angry.
Things aren't going well for him. The Ukrainians have come

(00:57):
across the border into the Kurtsk region and despite him
saying that they've managed to push them back, apparently it's
all lies. We'll look into that. Two seven after five.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
The agenda.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
It is Friday, the ninth of August. Another gold in
the bag. Overnight, Lisa Carrington and crew have pushed past
Germany in the women's K four final, claiming another KIWI
gold medal by less than a second.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
The bows are now back in front for New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's Carrington lifting the.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Right, the black boat keeping its nose in front of Germany.
They can see the finish line.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
It is gold for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Fantastic. And Elise Andrews has won the track cycling semi.
She'll be competing for gold in the final against Mexico
and Great Britain will cross live for that very shortly. Also,
the inter island of Ferry at Teddy is out of
service again after heaving a link span while docking and
Wellington KiwiRail says overnight repairs are underway to the damage,

(01:57):
which is above the water line. It's expected the addit
Teddy will return to the service a full service over
the weekend. It's eight after five.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing store.
News talk z It'd be.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I love listening to Neva and the news just after
five o'clock, calling that what did she say, a slight
bump to the link span or a slight incursion onto
the link span. The media is saying crash. What do
you say? Is this a media beat up? You would
have seen it on the news last night, and no doubt, hey,

(02:37):
you may not have seen this. This is from the
Herald this morning, and it's music to my ears because,
like most Auckland as, I hate Walkland Transport. I just don't.
I just don't like the organization. I think it's useless. Plus,
whenever you get a fine or a ticket for parking
in the wrong place, it's got their name on it
at the band. The branding's all bad anyway. Auckland meyor

(02:57):
Wayne Brown wants to quote de throw Auckland Transport. He
wants to strip away the unelected board members the powers
that they've got and put elected representatives in full control
of this so that it's not just faceless men doing
and women presumably doing the dirty work. He's outlined his

(03:18):
intentions for reforms in an exclusive statement to the Herald today,
So go and pick up your heralds. We actually have
counselor Daniel Newman on the show to talk about the
water reforms just before six, so we'll hit him up
with what are his thoughts on what Wayne Brown is saying.
It's just gone nine after five, lots more to come.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a play a store.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
News Talk said, be just gone eleven after five year.
On news Talk said be great to have your company
this morning. Nine two nine two is the number to
texts right now. Children's Minister Karen Shaw has handed Udanga
Tamadiki a new set of instructions to keep the agency
accountable and transparent. She's outlined five new measures she expects
to be reported on every quarter. They include things like

(04:08):
how many children in care access a social worker in
a two month period. Addressing youth offending, she wants to
see a fifteen percent cut in the persistent offending. The
Blue Light Operations manager Rod Bella is with us this morning. Rod,
Good morning, thanks for being on the program. You're obviously
your charity does do great work. You run youth camps

(04:28):
and programs and support with alongside police for young people.
I just wonder with all the cuts that the government's
making at the moment. Have you guys been affected by those.

Speaker 7 (04:40):
We have been a little bit, but you get on
and you continue to make a positive impact. At least
we have lost some of our programs. You know, we've
shown that our programs have an investment of seven dollars
tens every dollar invested, so that that does has impacted us,

(05:01):
but most importantly it impacted some of our services.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, what does it meant for your services? What have
you had to cut back?

Speaker 7 (05:09):
It's probably unfortunately in the proactive area. So are we
still doing a lot of work with young people who
have been in trouble and working to make sure that
they get back and get into work and get into
more positive outputs. But some of the programs which are
before young people get into trouble as the ones that

(05:31):
have been affected, which is really would much prefer to
see that happen before they get in trouble rather than
wait to work with them once they are.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
So coming to these goals that the ministers set for ot,
you know, fifteen percent reduction in young people serious persistent offending.
I mean the fact that you've had funding cut to
a program that's going to achieve exactly that outcome seems
counterintuitive to me.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Yeah, it does. Look I think the outline measures are
pretty basic in a way, and they should be what's
been written. It should happen automatically. You would think there's
nothing in there I see of particularly complication. We all
want our kids to wake up healthy and safe and
well and not none of them get hurt and be

(06:21):
well looked after if they have to be in care.
But you know, the fifteen percent reduction, that's great. Sometimes
figures are figures. I think what you need is to
have people feel in the community that we're safe.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, absolutely, Rod, thank you so much for that. Rodboll,
the operations manager at Blue Light, responding there to Karen
Shaw's direction for auditing a tamadiki, The time is fourteen
after five year on news Talk, said b and we
are going live to the track cycling the women's Karen
Final with Elise Andrews, who was first in the semi finals.
Here it is.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Followed out by the.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
German Hinds up.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
And then she has in the field the Dutch rider
Hetti Fundeval, as well as the Mexican Daniella Haxola Gonzalez.
Katie Marchant of Britain and Emma Finucan of Britain who
have already proved their pedigree, and the team sprints. Of course,
Andrews getting the silver there with their teammates, but the

(07:27):
Brits powering home for gold, particularly Finucan, who will be
of major concern. They come around now four laps to go,
the journey rider just getting up to pace, a bit
of jostling at the back. Already it's Andrews is currently

(07:50):
and second as the journey leaves the track, and she holds.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
That second spot from over.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
The Mexican goes to the front, Gonzales and the Dutch
rider front of her is in third. But Andrew's just
in the one one if you like. She's moved up
to the front. Now sixty five kilometers in our two
laps to go.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
They work their way round to the back straight.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Andrew's still in front, but she's got to hold it,
Elise Andrews. You hear the bell A lap to go now,
Elise Andrew's on the inside and up, but she's got
the brick coming around.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
It's like I said, in the form of Finuken.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
The power goes on can Alise Andrews holders she comes
down towards the finishing line.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Alise Andrews on the line. It looks like she's one gold.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Alease Andrew's intense, incisive, invincible at the Paris Valodrome.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Too much power and too much panache.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
She is triumphed and she is elated.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
She pumps her fists in.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
The air, black gloved fists, and the crowd respond that.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
Furniture Beds and a Planet Store news talk.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Si'd be huge. Congratulations to Elise Andrews who has taken
gold this morning in the women's care and final. She
held the lead over the last two laps and she
beat Mexico and Great Britain. Well done, congratulations. Nineteen minutes
after five now and we're looking at energy. The Finance
Minister along with the Energy Minister are looking at urgent advice.

(09:29):
What can we do about this wholesale electricity price spike
which has just gone through the roof. I mean it's nuts,
really when you talk about the numbers sitting at around
seven hundred dollars per megawatt in late twenty twenty one,
it was at around one hundred dollars per megawatt. As
a result of these prices, multiple large scale businesses are
halting their operations. Actually the latest is pan Pack in

(09:52):
Hawke's Bay forest products they do. They export pulp product
to India and China. They've halted their operations. Cost of
electricity outweighs profit. Joining me is Energy Resources Altered. Chief
Executive John Carnegie, John, good morning, Good morning. First of all,
why is it that we that the spike is happening

(10:12):
and not happening in other places like in Canada for example.
And it's interesting looking at pan Pack they point to
Canada their biggest competitor in terms of the products they're making.
Their electricity index WHENT up twenty percent since twenty eighteen.
Ours is up two hundred percent.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
Well, look, I guess what we're seeing in Actually the
most painful way is how reliant our economy is on
natural gas and how important you know, you probably wonder
why I'm talking about natural gas for electricity, but how
important it is to our electricity system. About twenty percent
of our produced gas is used in the electricity market,
and about ten percent of all electricity generator using the

(10:55):
users gas and of course that might be used to
your listeners, but it's a real problem if gas production reduces,
which it has been quite dramatically, and when you combine
that with extremely low lake levels, you know, we've got
some of the driest conditions we've ever ever seen, combined
with insufficient gas five power stations which are used to

(11:18):
hold the system together when the lakes are low. Well,
then I guess you'd call that the perfect storm.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
What do you know the government's looking at things like
importing AL and G. What do you make of that?

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (11:35):
I think aling is probably a very useful backup option,
but there are a range of other solutions that I
think that they should also be working on as well.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
How long just on aller G, How long before we
would actually see that if we started importing it making
a difference here to that market?

Speaker 8 (11:55):
I mean, it's that's quite quite difficult to answer, but
I think you're talking you're talking around about twelve months,
twelve after eighteen months possibly and it's not an insignificant
piece of investment. You know, we're talking hundreds.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
Of millions of dollars.

Speaker 8 (12:12):
But you know, one of the solutions I think if
you're wanting to help bring down prices back to long
run averages, is actually just getting more gas into our system,
natural gas, and that's actually most likely probably going to
come through our existing gas producers who have the infrastructure,
the workforce and the knowledge, but actually just need assurances

(12:36):
from the government that their investments aren't going to be
undercut by future government policy changes like they were in
twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
But that's the hard thing, right, I mean, it's a democracy.
We vote people and we vote them out, and when
the next labor lot come in, I mean, you know,
you saw what they did last time. So how can
businesses have confidence to invest?

Speaker 8 (12:55):
Well, I guess that cuts to one of the solutions
that I'm going to propose and have been proposing, and
that's us working our way back to political bipartisanship to
ensure in New Zealand's energy security. Frankly, we should never
be putting our country in this situation where we can't
take care of our people. Industries closing and communities being

(13:18):
devastated by job losses is not a part of an
energy future, thankfully, that I thought I would ever see
and I hope never to see again. Actually, this isn't
a political game. Actually, this is about livelihoods and jobs.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
John, Thanks for your time. John Carnegie, the Energy Resources
out to ARCHIEV executive saying we need bipartisanship when it
comes to our electricity sector. He's got a point, doesn't
he need? You need confidence. Businesses need confidence to invest
in order to make sure that the demand is met
so that we're not in this mess every time the

(13:52):
hydrolate levels are down. It is twenty four minutes after
five the.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Early edition full the show podcast Todd Radio Power by
News Talks at Me.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It has just gone twenty six after five. We live
in a world that seemingly, seemingly is spilling over with
hate and division at the moment. You don't have to
look far to find it. Just in the past few days.
Look at this nineteen year old isis inspired terror suspect
planning to kill himself and as many Taylor Swift fans
as possible. You've got rioting, You've got division on the

(14:23):
streets of UK. Australia has raised its terror threat level.
Remember that sixteen year old teenager who stabbed a religious
cleric in Australia suspected religious extremism. Behind it. You've got Trump.
Remember this was only last month. Yeah, it's almost like

(14:56):
we've forgotten about that, isn't it, Because there's so much
going on. They all have one thing in common, the Internet.
You know, this nineteen year old Isis would be mass murderer.
He and his two alleged teenage accomplices. They were serious.
They had chemical explosives, they had detonateds. Allegedly, they were
radicalized online. The UK riots fueled by false information about

(15:20):
that stabbing suspect. They were all raked up, fired up
by being on the internet. Where did it all happen online? Australia?
Remember those seven teenagers arrested in April for alleged extremist ideology.
All happened online. I could go on, but you get
the point. Young impressionable minds, endless scrolling on social media

(15:43):
and the wild West of content. Every kid has a
mental health problem these days. If you noticed that, turn
on the news. Everyone's sad and why well, it's obviously,
isn't it the Internet? Isn't it our phones? And what
are we doing about it? And this is what happens
when you scroll on a phone and you don't and

(16:04):
you argue with somebody and you don't look them in
the eye. You know, you don't talk to them face
to face. You don't moderate your thoughts with body language
and facial expressions and all those important things that I
think help to make our debates a bit more human.
We lose all that when we go online and when
we scroll endlessly. Apparently we will spend between ten years

(16:29):
ten to seventeen years of our lives scrolling on our phones.
How sad is that? And for kids it's worse. So
on what have I done about it? Well, I've deleted
the apps on my phone, the social media apps, and
not that I'm saying I'm going to solve the world,
but I'm just seeing if I'll feel better about the world.

(16:49):
And I wonder why more people aren't doing it. Maybe
you are nine two nine two is the number to text.
Here's a do we have time for this?

Speaker 8 (16:57):
Leah.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
There's a guy called Tristan Harris has worked for Google.
He's what they call a technology ethicis This is what
he has to say about this issue.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
The more moral outrageous language you use, the more inflammatory language,
contemptuous language, the more indignation you use, the more it
will get shared, So we are being rewarded for being
division entrepreneurs. The better you are at innovating a new
way to be divisive, we will pay you in more likes,
followers and retweets.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Isn't that sad thought? Twenty nine minutes after five, news
is next. We're going to Vincent mcavinie in the UK.
The latest on the state of emergency declared in the
Curse region of Russia. Also the latest on that Taylor
Swift concert cancelation.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and
applying store news Talk said.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
B twenty four minutes away from six. As I mentioned
twenty four minutes away from six, I'm still getting the

(18:17):
hang of this job. I've been here a month, and
one of my goals for this week I'll share with
you is to try and read more of your text
messages out loud, because I do read them. I read
every single text message that comes in because I appreciate
the feedback and I always take it on board. But
now that I'm kind of getting the hang of which

(18:38):
buttons to press and when odd mistakes notwithstanding, I'm trying
to get to more of your feedback because there's really
good information that's coming in and I like this critique
that has come in this morning. Ryan, you referred to
Lisa and Crewe who won this is the gold medal
this morning in the women's K four. The other names

(19:00):
don't get a mentioned. Quite right. I should have done
that and I will do it now. So alongside Lisa
Carrington in the K four gold medalists Alisha Hoskin, Tara
Vaughan and Olivia Brett. Congratulations to all of you. Also
to Elise Andrews who won in the Kiran final this
morning too. A good point and well done. Lots of

(19:21):
feedback coming in on people who've deleted their social media
accounts and are now free. Their lives are far improved,
so we'll read some of those out in the second.
Right now it is twenty three to six, Ryan Bridge,
Let's go to our reporters around the country. Calum Proctor
is in Dunedin, Callum is Wanaka.

Speaker 10 (19:40):
Going to get a macers here morning, Ryan, Well, if
the locals have anything to do with it, probably not,
but really this decision lies with the district council. Now
the next phase of this proposed McDonald's and Watakah's set
to begin. The Queenstain Lakes District Councils, looking over at submission,
has received more than two hundred submissions from the public

(20:03):
on these restaurant plans. Submissions actually close today, but as
it stands, an overwhelming amount of residents say they are
against the idea. Their concerns include food waste pollution and
local outlets losing business. The council says that we'll review
all submissions before there's any hearings, and they say a
date on any decision can't be confirmed.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yet everyone's against it until you're going home from the
pub and you know you want to drive through. Thank
you caullum. How's the weather in Dunedin today?

Speaker 6 (20:32):
A few spots a drizzle for us like Wins and
ten today, Claire Shereward's and Christchich Claire. It's been labeled
unquestionably the biggest party in Australasia and it's coming to
christ Chitch.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
What is this?

Speaker 11 (20:43):
Yeah, this is a good Friday story.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Ryan.

Speaker 11 (20:45):
New Zealand's biggest one day music festival, Electric Avenue, will
become two days next year at Hagley Park. About sixty
thousand people are expected over the two days February twenty
one and twenty two. There will be twenty international artists
forty local acts that spread across at four different stages.
Christ Church and Zed says the announcement's big for the city.

(21:06):
It expects visitors spending to top this year's six point
three million dollars. The lineup comes out next month and
for those wondering, I think this is interesting. Despite the
event doubling in size, ticket prices will only be about
thirty percent higher.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Well, there we go, and how's your weather today, Claire?
That's great?

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Yeah, we need to get past the wintry blast though
it's cold here rain ten degrees with one overnight.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
All right, thank you, and Max Tols and Wellington Max
the All Blacks tests there tomorrow night. How's demand looking, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (21:37):
It's not clear exactly how many tickets have sold so
far for this test. Much against Argentina apparently, though we're
only at about two thirds full of the thirty four
five hundred cedars sky Stadium, about two thirds subdued, it
would be a fair way to describe demand. Not a
great look for the capital and for future tests here.

(21:58):
Although we do have the Bloder Cup game next month
that will probably sell out, but yeah, it possibly a
cost of living thing, possibly a wind st thing, possibly
a Wellington thing.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Also worth noting the All Blacks have actually a Wellington thing?
Does that mean what you don't like rugby? Bring?

Speaker 12 (22:16):
I'm just here to bring you the doom and gloom
from the Capitol Mate, Worth noting as well, the All
Blacks haven't actually won a game in Wellington since twenty eighteen.
I've seen them three times. I think my record is
a drawer and two defeats. If we don't sell out,
you know, the postnotes the crowd would be less than
the thirty three thousand who watched the All Blacks play
Fiji and San Diego, of which there was criticism.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Jeez, can't you just be happy on a Friday next
and you well, your fury is crashed. I can see
why you're upset. You know your feary is crashed. Your
speed bumps will slow you down once you get off
the fury. That's the right.

Speaker 12 (22:52):
Weather's not looking great for golf tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Rex told him that did we do with that? I can't. Oh,
it's not great.

Speaker 12 (23:00):
Periods of rain, strong souther East tenth.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Fantastic and you've got to break me in too, Hey Neva, my.

Speaker 13 (23:10):
Gosh, he is the you know, the groom reap in
the mix. I came running in the studio. I was like,
on a high, the gals have got gold this morning,
I'm on a high. It's Friday. Listening to MEXI cracks
me up. And then I'm thinking, man, I feel like, you.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Know, I'm quite depressed. Actually, I had to laugh this
morning at you said about the other teddy in the news. Oh,
I mean you see, I mean the news. Yes, it
was a low speed contact, not a crash.

Speaker 13 (23:41):
I have to say. When I woke up early this
morning and I was just having a look at you know,
the what was online and the hero website, and when
I read that story about that, I was just I
was screaming. I was like, what is going on with
that utter teddy fairy? I thought I would probably you
and I would probably do a bit of driving.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 13 (24:02):
Sorry for one of the guys who was just a
line in there saying, look this sucks because this you know,
someone was trying to get on there a passenger and
you know now they're being delayed until like later on today.
He said, I've been standing out here waiting in the wind,
and you can just imagine, you know, like in Wellington.
I thought, Oh, the poor person.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well, I mean, he'll be as miserable as Max presumably.

Speaker 13 (24:23):
Hey, I was just thinking, what did I was listening
to you saying about your you know, social media there?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, wow, well it's I mean you Well, it's interesting
so many people are texting and to say they cut
the social media out, and that just feel so much
happier about life.

Speaker 13 (24:38):
I'm not on social media. I'm a ludd.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't know how.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
I mean.

Speaker 13 (24:41):
I'm on Facebook, but I never I don't just to
see what everyone else. I never post, not on I
don't even know how to use TikTok do you call
it Instagram?

Speaker 2 (24:49):
What do you call it? Nothing? Well, do you know
what the good thing is? You can't be radicalized, because
that's what's happening to everyone else.

Speaker 12 (24:56):
Right, look at us now?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Everyone else is nuts, but us neither. We're not nuts. Hey.
What are we talking about? The current? Well? The weather? Oh,
the weather? Should I do the weather?

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (25:05):
Scattered showers, fine breaks in between today's high fifteen here
in all Cliff.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Thank you, Neva. It is seventeen to six The news you.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Need this morning and the in depth analysis early edition
with Ryan Bridge and Swift City, New Zealand's furniture beds
and a playing store.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
News Talk said B. Fourteen to six on news Talk
said B. This is a text from Ian who says,
I was just going to agree with your recent interviewer
interviewee bipartisan agreement on a number of areas, including energy
in New Zealand, because we need certainty for businesses to
invest so that we don't end up with the shortages

(25:43):
that we've got at the moment, which mean prices go
through the roof. He says, a small country like New
Zealand can't afford the kind of stuff ups that we
are now dealing with energy, health, education, roading, transport that
are all in the PIP, he says, and we should
have more by partisan agreement on how to deal with
and manage those things. Also, someone has said, Ryan, are

(26:05):
you're we're how often you mentioned the time you used
to do it on the AM show. How about you
talk about something other than the time, Sarah, thank you
for that message. It is thirteen to.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Six International correspondents with ends in Eye Insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Our UK Europe correspondent is Vincent mcavini. He's with us
live this morning. A state of emergency has been declared
in the Curs region in Russia. Vincent, Yes, that's right.

Speaker 14 (26:36):
This is a surprise attack that the Ukrainians have mounted.
We think about a thousand or so Ukrainian troops supported
by tanks and armored vehicles, cross the border from Ukraine
into Russia on Tuesday, and some three thousand people have
been evacuated due to ongoing military altercations that have killed

(26:58):
at least for people. According to this Rush Regions governor.
This has come as a surprise to the Kreminin. It
is highly embarrassing to Vladmir Pusin. Of course, two and
a half years ago he told his country that this
would be a limited, small operation in Ukraine, it would
be over quickly, and we're still here fighting and now
his own country is being invaded in a surprise attack

(27:19):
from Ukrainian troops. So quite a display of gumption and
ambition from the Ukraini users.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Certainly is Taylor Swift. These concerts that have been canceled.
Sounds like these suspicted attackers were very serious.

Speaker 14 (27:34):
Yes, that's right. A nineteen year old who was arrested
on Wednesday apparently was planning to kill a large crowd
of people in a suicide attack a one of the
three concerts taking place in Vienna this weekend. Taylor Smith
was meant to be playing to one hundred and ninety
five thousand people over the three days. Those concerts have
all been canceled. Local media is reporting that the suspect

(27:56):
had stolen chemicals from his formal workplace, that he is
in the process of building a bomb, had materials to
that effect, that he was going to potentially use this device,
but also drive a car into crowds and potentially go
on a stabbing spree as well, So it would have
been horrific. It's very similar to the Ariana Grande attack
that took place here in the UK back in twenty seventeen,

(28:19):
where someone detonated a bomb at that concert venue as
a young young women and their parents were leaving, and
would have been a pretty horrific event. But so far,
Taylor Swift keeping the rest of the era's toll going.
She'll be back in the UK next week being Wembley.
She's got a record eight nights are sold out at
Wembley this summer, so she's coming back to do the

(28:40):
rest of those.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, pretty frightening there, and you can see why the
authorities have moved to close the concerts down. Thank you
so much for your time, Vincent. Vincent Mecavennie a UK
and Europe correspondent. It is eleven to six, Ryan Bridge.
The government's plan to replace the three Waters legislation has
been revealed. Council controlled water organizations will be able to
leverage up to five hundred percent five times. Basically, they're

(29:04):
operating revenues through the local Government funding agency and they
can body up with councils to do this. Councils not
necessarily even on their border, so the Commerce Commission will
oversee it to make sure there's appropriate investment, maintenance and
delivery of water infrastructure for consumers' long term. The Auckland
councilor Daniel Newman is with me this morning. Good morning, Daniel,

(29:25):
Good morning Ryan. What do you make of this? Is
this better than three Waters?

Speaker 15 (29:31):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (29:31):
It is.

Speaker 15 (29:32):
It is because it keeps the assets within council. It
does provide a facility for borrowing to fund, and that
facility will be cheaper. It will put real pressure back
on councils in terms of ensuring appropriate governance of these
water entities. But I think it's a better model than

(29:55):
what was proposed by the previous government.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
What does it mean in Auckland for water here, Well,
what it will mean is that water Care is able
to effectively borrow off.

Speaker 15 (30:07):
The off the council's balance sheets, so that allows it
to be able to access more more debt. But you know,
it would be a cheaper borrowing facility, and that's quite
important because your borrowing capacity is restricted according to your
debt to revenue ratio. So at the moment, what would

(30:28):
happen if you didn't have access to cheaper debt You
would have to raise rights rates faster and faster in
order to ensure that you maintain a debt to revenue ratio,
which is you know, I don't want to be basically
be taxing my constituents just to meet a borrowing limits.
So I think it's a better option for for Auckland

(30:49):
is I think it will probably be a better option
for a lot of people around the country.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, they reckon you Can you know we're borrowing five
times what you're taken through your water rates? It would
double what the currents are most cecos would currently. Do
you do we need Does Aukland need to buddy up
with anyone else?

Speaker 15 (31:06):
Auckland won't need to buddy up with anybody, and I'm
quite relieved about that. Auckland is big enough and ugly
enough to look after itself. But there will be councils
outside of the Auckland region who I'm sure will need
to buddy up. And that's not unworkable. It is complex,
but it is it is. It is a feasible option

(31:28):
if you can get that partnership relationship through a shareholder's
representative group.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Daniel, very quickly in one word, can you answer this question?
Wayne Brown's gone to the Herald this morning saying he
wants to dethrone Auckland Transport, stripping away the unelected board members' powers,
putting elected representatives in full control. He wants to gut
the place. Do you agree with him? Yes, thanks for
your time. That is sick. That's Daniel Newman, the Auckland

(31:54):
councilor it is eight to six.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
News and views you trust as done your Day. It's
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture beds and a flying store. News Talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
It is five to six. News Talk said, be Friday morning.
Everyone loves Friday. The athlete that we need to talk
about this morning is a Dutch marathon swimmer. So ten
k's in the water. This is in the river Sin.
Two hours in the river Sin. She gets dehydrated. She's
the gold medal winner, so I suppose she can do
what she wants. But she got dehydrated, so she was thirsty,

(32:29):
so she drank the river Sin. She said, I needed
a refreshment, so I was like, I'll just drink the
river Sin. I don't care. It was nice. Other races
water tastes fishy sometimes, so there you go. She won,
so clearly it was worth doing. Mike Costing is here,
good morning.

Speaker 16 (32:46):
She'll be on a drip by tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (32:48):
I mean all the other two one was it one
of ours or two of ours got sick?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah? Yeah, and there were a colon So.

Speaker 16 (32:55):
I suppose that it's the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
What's it matter?

Speaker 16 (32:57):
I mean, you recover the young, their fit, healthy, drink.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
A bit of pool water and when a gold medal.

Speaker 16 (33:03):
Well, speaking of which, the water system. By the way,
I just want to expose you. I heard you earlier
on saying you read all the texts.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You don't.

Speaker 16 (33:10):
I do, you do not? You have nothing but distain
for the audience and the texture. I just want to
expose that officially not true. What a fraud I thought.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't read them all out on air, but I
do read them, okay, fair enough, even the ones that
are you know.

Speaker 16 (33:25):
If you say so so. Yeah, No, the water things
interest me because you can borrow five times. So a
couple of questions come out of that.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Okay, all right, I don't read all of them. I
knew it. Bustard, Well, there's a million things going on
in here. No, no, I know.

Speaker 16 (33:41):
And when you said all the buttons I pushed, you
don't push any buttons. He doesn't do any pushed three
butter can tell the time and say good morning. Let's
let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Don't make this job out to be harder than.

Speaker 16 (33:54):
It really is. You know as well as I do.
This is a lark and someone's paying us money to
do it.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
It's a joke.

Speaker 16 (33:59):
Anyway, we will be looking at the water this Morning
and the five Times things you know? And does that
solve the problem? You know, just because you can borrow
a lot of money, does it actually fix the problem.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
If you look at and I know they're too busy
reading the texts.

Speaker 16 (34:11):
I know, because you love the weekend. You can't wait
to get out of here.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Go on, run Mike's with me next. I'll see you
on Monday, but not before I read every single text
that's coming in.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
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