November 24, 2024 • 3 mins
The All Blacks' final match of the season against Italy raised a few eyebrows - over more than just the team's performance.
Departing veteran TJ Perenara voiced support for Hīkoi mō te Tiriti, as he led his final haka.
ZB Wellington sports reader Adam Cooper unpacked the controversy further.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, I asked the question. Hither I canceled my Sky
subscription today because sport is no place for politics, particularly
when you have a group of people talking about unity,
but what they really mean is unity of only one side.
Goodbye Sky. So that was it. That's what it took,
nineteen past four and with me now is Adam Cooper,
sports talk host Hecubs. Hey, Ever, does it surprise you
(00:21):
that people are that angry about the he koy protest
in the Hacker?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
No, it doesn't surprise me at all. I think people
you don't have their fellow concerns. I guess for me,
I was watching it yesterday. I didn't realize what was
being referenced, and you know, maybe that's on me. It
didn't affect my well engagement with the game at all
because I got onto the game and I was probably
more upset with the way the All Backs were playing
and how they finished off the year. So that's where
(00:47):
it's at for me. I mean, obviously, I can you know,
we don't want too much politics in sport, But I
also don't think people that know TJ Peinada should be
surprised that he used his fire game after a very
distinguished career to do this and push this forward for him.
He probably saw it as an opportunity and something you
(01:08):
felt strongly about, and that's where it went. But you know,
as I said, I got onto the game pretty fast
and it was pretty more disappointed with that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We heard anything at all from the NZR or All
Blacks management about.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
This, No, nothing at all. I think what was interesting
was I heard a bit of discussion yesterday around a
few people that they had actually taken the start of
the Haker off the All Black social media channels when
they shared the Harker, which I found quite interesting. Is
that a statement in itself maybe, but in terms of
anything directly other than obviously you know, the captain Scott
(01:41):
Barrett and coach Scott Robertson and other teammates who fronted
interviews in the press conference's post game. Very little from
from ENZR itself around this, and I suspect that will
remain for now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Why.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I just don't think they'll don't want to be drawn
into it at all. You know, what are they going
to say? Really, it's it's frustrating that this is the
talking point at the end of the year. Really, to be.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Honest, this is gonna be honest with you. Don't tell
anyone this, but this is why I'm really stuck TJ's
leaving because he is such a recidivist. He's such a
recidivist with the politics. Say, there was the anti meat thing,
and then he was supporting the women's hocker and then
he had the ihumato on his armband, and I just
got tired of all his politics in sports. So I'm
start like, great, good yay for him that he did
(02:26):
well off you go, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, great service for the game. But as I
said that, everyone that knows TJ and has followed his
career over the years not have been surprised with what
he did yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Hey can we talk about Auckland FC, because how good
is this? Nobody thought they'd do four from four?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Absolutely not. Now this is a great story, isn't it
to start the new A League tenure. No one has,
as you say, heither has done this four from four
to start the new season. And I guess even more significantly,
they haven't even conceded a goal yet. There is not
one goal that has got past the defensive lineup or
Alex Paulson, their keeper, and you know, everyone that's been
following Alex Alton's journey. Obviously Phoenix last year got that
(03:02):
signing over to the UK, then got transferred back to Auckland.
We all know his credentials, so you know his career
has you know, just just you know, had a great
moment at Auckland the f C. I will warn Auckland
fans who are starting to get all nasty to Phoenix
fans down here on Wellington. They're starting to get a
little bit loud, a little bit arrogant. All they've had, Heather,
is one one trip over to Sydney. They haven't done
(03:24):
any of the longer A league journeys. Three of their
four games have been on New Zealand soil. So all
I'll say is that it's a very long season. Don't
don't get too confident too quickly, but it is a
very It's been a very enjoyable start to the season
to watch, and the Phoenix are in second, so what
a great start for the two key we.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Have good how good coops, Thanks very much, Adam Cooper,
Sports Talk Sports Talk host Rather He'll be back at
seven this evening for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive
listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
Well, I asked the question. Hither I canceled my Sky
subscription today because sport is no place for politics, particularly
when you have a group of people talking about unity,
but what they really mean is unity of only one side.
Goodbye Sky. So that was it. That's what it took,
nineteen past four and with me now is Adam Cooper,
sports talk host Hecubs. Hey, Ever, does it surprise you
(00:21):
that people are that angry about the he koy protest
in the Hacker?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
No, it doesn't surprise me at all. I think people
you don't have their fellow concerns. I guess for me,
I was watching it yesterday. I didn't realize what was
being referenced, and you know, maybe that's on me. It
didn't affect my well engagement with the game at all
because I got onto the game and I was probably
more upset with the way the All Backs were playing
and how they finished off the year. So that's where
(00:47):
it's at for me. I mean, obviously, I can you know,
we don't want too much politics in sport, But I
also don't think people that know TJ Peinada should be
surprised that he used his fire game after a very
distinguished career to do this and push this forward for him.
He probably saw it as an opportunity and something you
(01:08):
felt strongly about, and that's where it went. But you know,
as I said, I got onto the game pretty fast
and it was pretty more disappointed with that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We heard anything at all from the NZR or All
Blacks management about.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
This, No, nothing at all. I think what was interesting
was I heard a bit of discussion yesterday around a
few people that they had actually taken the start of
the Haker off the All Black social media channels when
they shared the Harker, which I found quite interesting. Is
that a statement in itself maybe, but in terms of
anything directly other than obviously you know, the captain Scott
(01:41):
Barrett and coach Scott Robertson and other teammates who fronted
interviews in the press conference's post game. Very little from
from ENZR itself around this, and I suspect that will
remain for now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Why.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I just don't think they'll don't want to be drawn
into it at all. You know, what are they going
to say? Really, it's it's frustrating that this is the
talking point at the end of the year. Really, to be.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Honest, this is gonna be honest with you. Don't tell
anyone this, but this is why I'm really stuck TJ's
leaving because he is such a recidivist. He's such a
recidivist with the politics. Say, there was the anti meat thing,
and then he was supporting the women's hocker and then
he had the ihumato on his armband, and I just
got tired of all his politics in sports. So I'm
start like, great, good yay for him that he did
(02:26):
well off you go, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, great service for the game. But as I
said that, everyone that knows TJ and has followed his
career over the years not have been surprised with what
he did yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Hey can we talk about Auckland FC, because how good
is this? Nobody thought they'd do four from four?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Absolutely not. Now this is a great story, isn't it
to start the new A League tenure. No one has,
as you say, heither has done this four from four
to start the new season. And I guess even more significantly,
they haven't even conceded a goal yet. There is not
one goal that has got past the defensive lineup or
Alex Paulson, their keeper, and you know, everyone that's been
following Alex Alton's journey. Obviously Phoenix last year got that
(03:02):
signing over to the UK, then got transferred back to Auckland.
We all know his credentials, so you know his career
has you know, just just you know, had a great
moment at Auckland the f C. I will warn Auckland
fans who are starting to get all nasty to Phoenix
fans down here on Wellington. They're starting to get a
little bit loud, a little bit arrogant. All they've had, Heather,
is one one trip over to Sydney. They haven't done
(03:24):
any of the longer A league journeys. Three of their
four games have been on New Zealand soil. So all
I'll say is that it's a very long season. Don't
don't get too confident too quickly, but it is a
very It's been a very enjoyable start to the season
to watch, and the Phoenix are in second, so what
a great start for the two key we.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Have good how good coops, Thanks very much, Adam Cooper,
Sports Talk Sports Talk host Rather He'll be back at
seven this evening for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive
listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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