Moves have been made to restore regional governance to 10 polytechnics.
The Government is undoing Labour's merger of institutes under the Te Pūkenga umbrella.
The 10 selected are deemed to be on a path to financial viability - and will stand alone from next year.
Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper says these changes will hopefully help the regions boost employment in the sectors calling out for workers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barry sofas back in the building. Very good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Well, I left the building three months ago, Ryan, and
it seems as though honestly sitting here that have never
been away.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, I was thinking I was here filling in for
Heather when you left.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, it's right.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's a weird little merry go round.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
She was doing the parental leave then and I was
doing it the last three months. And I've got to
say I loved it. I loved it with a three
year old and a little one now was six months. Fantastic.
And I'd recommend to any mail if they can do it,
do it, because you get much more out of it
than you would ever think you would get.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You're not worn out, best.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, I just love it, even though you do get
worn out. I really love it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Ye're nice.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
The government is bringing Reviving back from the dead polytechs.
Ten of them will return from January first.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's incredible, isn't it really? When you think to pukinga
was Chris Hopkin's brainchild, and you know he went on
and on about it. It was going to come under
one governing body run from Wellington, and that's what happened,
of course, and it was set up, no doubt, at
great expense. I haven't got the numbers in front of me,
but now we're going to have regional polytechs back again.
(01:13):
There used to be sixteen or now be ten. So
there'll be a few that will fall by the wayside
note up merge with others. But the prime min is
to hear outline the rationale for the restored regionally governed polytechs.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Areas will mean that decisions once again are made closer
to the people that they affect. And that's what regional
strength looks like, not decisions handed down to them from Wellington,
but real input from local leaders, local employers and local educators.
Let me be clear, this isn't just about structures. It's
about outcomes, better outcomes for the more than two hundred
and fifty thousand students participating in vocational education each and
(01:49):
every year. These changes are designed to make the system
more flexible, more financially sustainable, and more relevant to employment
opportunities available in each region.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I think that last point is the point that employers
have been complaining that people are going through polytech and
they're not being they're not studying what is required in
the region. I mean like the Otago polytech had home brewing.
Now you and I would have loved to have gone
to that, that course that had hip hop at one
stage somewhere as well, I seem to remember.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And the other problem they had with tapuking is you
go and market these these polytechs to the world and
no one knows what tapooking is, you know, So they
had this problem of what the hell is that.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's good for the international student driving.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Exact fantastic, Hey, the UN being accused of interfering in
our sovereignty.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well yeah, and I think I think David Seymour is
right in this. I mean I looked today and I thought,
you know, this greater morphous body that you've been to
I've been to many times at the UN General Assembly,
I mean, you know, you look at it and you
think this is such a vast structure. Well it's fast,
all right, because I looked up how many employees the
(02:56):
UN has. It's got wait for it, a hundred and
thirty thousand thousand employees around the world. But in New
York alone, at the secretariat there, they have about the
size of the population of Upper Hut, thirty seven thousand people.
Are working there in New Zealand, we contribute about fifty
(03:18):
million dollars a year, but it was New Zealand. Of
course that can take some blame for the UN, not
for the way it's totally impotent at the moment, but
it can take some blame because we were one of
the original founders of the United Nations in nineteen forty
eight when it was set up. But the point is
that a Special Rapporteur has written to the government a
(03:40):
chapter the name of Albert bah Rum and he said
he's concerned about the Regulatory Standards Bill. He said it
threatens Maldy specific laws and addresses structural inequalities and he says,
for example, land, language and environmental stewardship are all at
risk because of this. Well, basically David Seymour says, mind
(04:02):
your own bloody business, don't involve yourself and our sovereignty.
And you know we don't have to sign up to
any indigenous people's rights and in fact, even though we've
signed it, we don't have to implement it. By Lord
John Key talk long and hard about that when he
was Prime Minister, and I think mister Bahroom should become
(04:26):
more familiar with what New Zealand and what our status
is when it comes to the UN.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Also, you know, there's one big job and it's world peace.
Focus on maybe focus on that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Tell Donald Trump not to continue his bombing.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Now we've got a date for the by election.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, September the sixth, And I'm heartened by the fact that.
And I don't know her at all, but a former
journalist and broadcaster Ireny Kuiperra. You remember she got into
some trouble for wearing a mochu or she got it
done and some people were saying she shouldn't be presenting
the news. I think she was working for TV three
for a while at the time.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
She was here.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
She was at TV and Z when the complaints rolled
out about the time, and then she moved to TV three.
I worked with her for a couple of years. Yes, absolutely,
brilliant woman.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, I'm heartened by the fact that she's going if
she does get to represent it, and I have my
doubts about that. To Henard is back in the race and.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
He lost Penny.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well he penies sorry exactly Toes come out of the
depth recession of the Far North. But no, so yeah,
hanare Penny, henare he's going to stand. He only lost
the seat by forty two votes the last time he
(05:45):
had held it for more than a decade, So look,
she's going to have a better trouble. But if she
does get in, let's hope she can breathe some media
sense into the Moldy Party and tell them what they
should and shouldn't be doing when it comes to public perception.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
She's a really steady pair of hands, Like she's not.
She's not one to get carried away with emotion. She
wouldn't be one to be to be following the co
leaders into the depths of a protest or test. Yeah,
I actually think it would be really interesting to see how.
I hope that she does win, just because I like
her and she's a friend. Don't you like Penny He's
(06:24):
all right, he's all right, But I like order anymore.
But I'd just be really interested to see what the
multi party Malori would look like with her sort of
you know, at the front of it. Yeah, just a
completely different Politic's a.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Beautiful woman, that's what you're trying to say. She is.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
She's a beautiful woman. She's got a really good heart. Yes, good, Hey,
I'm good to see you very so very SOFA politics
every day here on news Talk Said Be.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
For more from Heather Duplessy Alan Drive.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Listen live to news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
Barry sofas back in the building. Very good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Well, I left the building three months ago, Ryan, and
it seems as though honestly sitting here that have never
been away.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, I was thinking I was here filling in for
Heather when you left.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, it's right.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's a weird little merry go round.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
She was doing the parental leave then and I was
doing it the last three months. And I've got to
say I loved it. I loved it with a three
year old and a little one now was six months. Fantastic.
And I'd recommend to any mail if they can do it,
do it, because you get much more out of it
than you would ever think you would get.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You're not worn out, best.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, I just love it, even though you do get
worn out. I really love it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Ye're nice.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
The government is bringing Reviving back from the dead polytechs.
Ten of them will return from January first.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's incredible, isn't it really? When you think to pukinga
was Chris Hopkin's brainchild, and you know he went on
and on about it. It was going to come under
one governing body run from Wellington, and that's what happened,
of course, and it was set up, no doubt, at
great expense. I haven't got the numbers in front of me,
but now we're going to have regional polytechs back again.
(01:13):
There used to be sixteen or now be ten. So
there'll be a few that will fall by the wayside
note up merge with others. But the prime min is
to hear outline the rationale for the restored regionally governed polytechs.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Areas will mean that decisions once again are made closer
to the people that they affect. And that's what regional
strength looks like, not decisions handed down to them from Wellington,
but real input from local leaders, local employers and local educators.
Let me be clear, this isn't just about structures. It's
about outcomes, better outcomes for the more than two hundred
and fifty thousand students participating in vocational education each and
(01:49):
every year. These changes are designed to make the system
more flexible, more financially sustainable, and more relevant to employment
opportunities available in each region.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I think that last point is the point that employers
have been complaining that people are going through polytech and
they're not being they're not studying what is required in
the region. I mean like the Otago polytech had home brewing.
Now you and I would have loved to have gone
to that, that course that had hip hop at one
stage somewhere as well, I seem to remember.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And the other problem they had with tapuking is you
go and market these these polytechs to the world and
no one knows what tapooking is, you know, So they
had this problem of what the hell is that.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's good for the international student driving.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Exact fantastic, Hey, the UN being accused of interfering in
our sovereignty.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well yeah, and I think I think David Seymour is
right in this. I mean I looked today and I thought,
you know, this greater morphous body that you've been to
I've been to many times at the UN General Assembly,
I mean, you know, you look at it and you
think this is such a vast structure. Well it's fast,
all right, because I looked up how many employees the
(02:56):
UN has. It's got wait for it, a hundred and
thirty thousand thousand employees around the world. But in New
York alone, at the secretariat there, they have about the
size of the population of Upper Hut, thirty seven thousand people.
Are working there in New Zealand, we contribute about fifty
(03:18):
million dollars a year, but it was New Zealand. Of
course that can take some blame for the UN, not
for the way it's totally impotent at the moment, but
it can take some blame because we were one of
the original founders of the United Nations in nineteen forty
eight when it was set up. But the point is
that a Special Rapporteur has written to the government a
(03:40):
chapter the name of Albert bah Rum and he said
he's concerned about the Regulatory Standards Bill. He said it
threatens Maldy specific laws and addresses structural inequalities and he says,
for example, land, language and environmental stewardship are all at
risk because of this. Well, basically David Seymour says, mind
(04:02):
your own bloody business, don't involve yourself and our sovereignty.
And you know we don't have to sign up to
any indigenous people's rights and in fact, even though we've
signed it, we don't have to implement it. By Lord
John Key talk long and hard about that when he
was Prime Minister, and I think mister Bahroom should become
(04:26):
more familiar with what New Zealand and what our status
is when it comes to the UN.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Also, you know, there's one big job and it's world peace.
Focus on maybe focus on that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Tell Donald Trump not to continue his bombing.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Now we've got a date for the by election.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, September the sixth, And I'm heartened by the fact that.
And I don't know her at all, but a former
journalist and broadcaster Ireny Kuiperra. You remember she got into
some trouble for wearing a mochu or she got it
done and some people were saying she shouldn't be presenting
the news. I think she was working for TV three
for a while at the time.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
She was here.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
She was at TV and Z when the complaints rolled
out about the time, and then she moved to TV three.
I worked with her for a couple of years. Yes, absolutely,
brilliant woman.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, I'm heartened by the fact that she's going if
she does get to represent it, and I have my
doubts about that. To Henard is back in the race and.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
He lost Penny.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well he penies sorry exactly Toes come out of the
depth recession of the Far North. But no, so yeah,
hanare Penny, henare he's going to stand. He only lost
the seat by forty two votes the last time he
(05:45):
had held it for more than a decade, So look,
she's going to have a better trouble. But if she
does get in, let's hope she can breathe some media
sense into the Moldy Party and tell them what they
should and shouldn't be doing when it comes to public perception.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
She's a really steady pair of hands, Like she's not.
She's not one to get carried away with emotion. She
wouldn't be one to be to be following the co
leaders into the depths of a protest or test. Yeah,
I actually think it would be really interesting to see how.
I hope that she does win, just because I like
her and she's a friend. Don't you like Penny He's
(06:24):
all right, he's all right, But I like order anymore.
But I'd just be really interested to see what the
multi party Malori would look like with her sort of
you know, at the front of it. Yeah, just a
completely different Politic's a.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Beautiful woman, that's what you're trying to say. She is.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
She's a beautiful woman. She's got a really good heart. Yes, good, Hey,
I'm good to see you very so very SOFA politics
every day here on news Talk Said Be.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
For more from Heather Duplessy Alan Drive.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Listen live to news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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