David Seymour's urging councils to axe what he calls 'puppy dogs and ice cream'.
The Deputy Prime Minister's adding to the coalition's call for councils to focus on basic, core services - and ditch 'nice-to-have' projects.
Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper explained why David Seymour's speech was so controversial.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tell you what new Plymouth council has had absolute balls up.
I'll tell you the details. It's about GST and race.
I'll tell you the details.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Isn't every council in the country, right, Barry?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is so this is so bad, Barry, you won't
believe the story. Hey, what's happening in Parliament? Today's citizens
arrest plans in the spotlight?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, yes, you know this is this comes out of
Sunny Kershel's ministerial committee set up. But we still know
clearer on when this is going to be introduced that
we're told legislation will see it this year. But the
most trenchant criticism of it came in Parliament today by
(00:40):
the Maori parties Takatu Ferris, who says the law will
affect the Maori and Pacific Island community unfairly. You haven't
listened to his reasoning and the view of ax Nicole McKee,
who was standing in for the Justice Minister.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
What assessment, if any, has he made of the racial
buyers already present and public perception of suspicious behavior and
how these new powers might embolden racial profiling and vigilanteism
against Mary and pacifica.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
This is not about race. This is about crime. This
government does not mind what color creed or racer person is.
It's about the crime that's being committed and sending a
message we have had enough of people taking trolleys of
food and taking and stealing from the good, hard working
(01:32):
citizens of New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, well, you know, it's an easy for mister Ferris
if he wants to persuade Mary and Pacifica not to
take trolleys of food if they are the people that
are doing it more frequently. That's what he suggested in
his question.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I'd suggest, okay, what about councils. They're getting a bit
of a bollocking from the government at the moment, but
also told to just tie ho on the RMA.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, I reckon councils must feel a bit like Sonny
Bill Wyams did after as a boxing bolt last night,
a bit punch trunk. They're told to keep their rates
under control. Now they say they're being blindsided by the
government's call. Their meeting the local governments in New Zealanders
meeting in christ Church today, a lot of political imput
(02:17):
at that meeting. Now the government's calling for a halt
on planning work until the RMA changes. That'll be two
bills later this year, coming well before they're known exactly
how they're going to effect, what the plans are that
councils might be thinking about now. So it's a bit difficult.
(02:38):
So the government's saying everything should go in abeyance at
the moment, and how on earth a council is meant
to try and plan in the face of that is
difficult to see. The Government of the Government is currently consulting,
they say, over the reforms. The results of the consultation
(03:00):
will be introduced to Parliament later this year. And of
course the RIMA, that large doorstop document that was originally
written by our dear friend, Sir Jeffrey Palmer. Yeah, in fact,
that'll be reduced down to two bills. Let's hope they're
less than the tens of hundreds of pages they are.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
At the moment in hope. So, hey, what David Seymour
got himself? When we say he's in hot water? It's
obviously there's a particular sector of the community that doesn't
like him. But what's he done this time?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well again he was at the Local government conference and
he made what many have described was a colorful speech
and in fact he had written this speech and was
put out for all of us to read. But if
you read this speek in this speech and listen to
what he said, one didn't resemble the other because he
obviously threw his speech notes away before he got to
(03:53):
the local government council. But the meeting he called on
councils to ditcher what he described as puppy dogs and
ice cream their approach to focus. They should instead focus
on fixing pipes, roads and rubbish. And you know, I
think he's got a fair point. But where he really
(04:13):
upset a few feathers was when he said the karakia,
which is part of some resource consents that have to
be carried out, he said that is fluff and it
shouldn't take place. And of course he is speaking. He
always claims as a moldy in these circumstances. But look,
he had a somewhat lighthearted way of telling journalists what's
(04:37):
behind is thinking. When it came to the kurake.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I don't expect a priest to show up every time
I break wind. Sorry, I don't expect a priest to
show up every time I break ground on a new building.
And I don't think that you need a comato or
to come and say a karakia either.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So you know, I mean, of course he's got he
knew he would upset people by saying. But nevertheless, it
is part of the resource consent. And I would imagine
that when we see the new Resource Management Act, maybe
these sorts of things will be swept aside.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Explicitly excluded. Maybe, well, yes, I would think so, because otherwise, Yeah,
it's interesting, isn't it. But I can understand if there's
like a really significant piece of land, you know, if
there's if there's if it's considered tapu or something like that.
But if you're doing and having to pay it to
get in the cutter care performed, and then you're going
to have to get the feed for the whole crew,
(05:32):
because that's what happens when you know, you have a
big work crew coming for a traffic light installation.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Do you know what I mean? You've seen it happen
for that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Sort of exactly. So I think there is some there
is a bit of truth in the in the complaint
about it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, particularly when the law sees the way it should happen.
And you know, the cultural aspect is very important when
it comes to the resource management, Yes, but it's got
to be reason.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Got to be in line.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
All right, Berry, thank you very much for that, very
so for senior political correspondent here at news Talk zib
Beat For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live
to news Talk zib from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Tell you what new Plymouth council has had absolute balls up.
I'll tell you the details. It's about GST and race.
I'll tell you the details.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Isn't every council in the country, right, Barry?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is so this is so bad, Barry, you won't
believe the story. Hey, what's happening in Parliament? Today's citizens
arrest plans in the spotlight?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, yes, you know this is this comes out of
Sunny Kershel's ministerial committee set up. But we still know
clearer on when this is going to be introduced that
we're told legislation will see it this year. But the
most trenchant criticism of it came in Parliament today by
(00:40):
the Maori parties Takatu Ferris, who says the law will
affect the Maori and Pacific Island community unfairly. You haven't
listened to his reasoning and the view of ax Nicole McKee,
who was standing in for the Justice Minister.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
What assessment, if any, has he made of the racial
buyers already present and public perception of suspicious behavior and
how these new powers might embolden racial profiling and vigilanteism
against Mary and pacifica.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
This is not about race. This is about crime. This
government does not mind what color creed or racer person is.
It's about the crime that's being committed and sending a
message we have had enough of people taking trolleys of
food and taking and stealing from the good, hard working
(01:32):
citizens of New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, well, you know, it's an easy for mister Ferris
if he wants to persuade Mary and Pacifica not to
take trolleys of food if they are the people that
are doing it more frequently. That's what he suggested in
his question.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I'd suggest, okay, what about councils. They're getting a bit
of a bollocking from the government at the moment, but
also told to just tie ho on the RMA.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, I reckon councils must feel a bit like Sonny
Bill Wyams did after as a boxing bolt last night,
a bit punch trunk. They're told to keep their rates
under control. Now they say they're being blindsided by the
government's call. Their meeting the local governments in New Zealanders
meeting in christ Church today, a lot of political imput
(02:17):
at that meeting. Now the government's calling for a halt
on planning work until the RMA changes. That'll be two
bills later this year, coming well before they're known exactly
how they're going to effect, what the plans are that
councils might be thinking about now. So it's a bit difficult.
(02:38):
So the government's saying everything should go in abeyance at
the moment, and how on earth a council is meant
to try and plan in the face of that is
difficult to see. The Government of the Government is currently consulting,
they say, over the reforms. The results of the consultation
(03:00):
will be introduced to Parliament later this year. And of
course the RIMA, that large doorstop document that was originally
written by our dear friend, Sir Jeffrey Palmer. Yeah, in fact,
that'll be reduced down to two bills. Let's hope they're
less than the tens of hundreds of pages they are.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
At the moment in hope. So, hey, what David Seymour
got himself? When we say he's in hot water? It's
obviously there's a particular sector of the community that doesn't
like him. But what's he done this time?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well again he was at the Local government conference and
he made what many have described was a colorful speech
and in fact he had written this speech and was
put out for all of us to read. But if
you read this speek in this speech and listen to
what he said, one didn't resemble the other because he
obviously threw his speech notes away before he got to
(03:53):
the local government council. But the meeting he called on
councils to ditcher what he described as puppy dogs and
ice cream their approach to focus. They should instead focus
on fixing pipes, roads and rubbish. And you know, I
think he's got a fair point. But where he really
(04:13):
upset a few feathers was when he said the karakia,
which is part of some resource consents that have to
be carried out, he said that is fluff and it
shouldn't take place. And of course he is speaking. He
always claims as a moldy in these circumstances. But look,
he had a somewhat lighthearted way of telling journalists what's
(04:37):
behind is thinking. When it came to the kurake.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I don't expect a priest to show up every time
I break wind. Sorry, I don't expect a priest to
show up every time I break ground on a new building.
And I don't think that you need a comato or
to come and say a karakia either.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So you know, I mean, of course he's got he
knew he would upset people by saying. But nevertheless, it
is part of the resource consent. And I would imagine
that when we see the new Resource Management Act, maybe
these sorts of things will be swept aside.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Explicitly excluded. Maybe, well, yes, I would think so, because otherwise, Yeah,
it's interesting, isn't it. But I can understand if there's
like a really significant piece of land, you know, if
there's if there's if it's considered tapu or something like that.
But if you're doing and having to pay it to
get in the cutter care performed, and then you're going
to have to get the feed for the whole crew,
(05:32):
because that's what happens when you know, you have a
big work crew coming for a traffic light installation.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Do you know what I mean? You've seen it happen
for that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Sort of exactly. So I think there is some there
is a bit of truth in the in the complaint
about it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, particularly when the law sees the way it should happen.
And you know, the cultural aspect is very important when
it comes to the resource management, Yes, but it's got
to be reason.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Got to be in line.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
All right, Berry, thank you very much for that, very
so for senior political correspondent here at news Talk zib
Beat For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live
to news Talk zib from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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