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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A jaffl is a South African and Australian name for
a sealed, closed toasted sandwich, which is made with a
jaffle iron that clamps the bread and filling together, creating
sealed edges and often a pattern on the bread. Megan
thank you thirteen away from five Barry Soaper, senior political
correspondence with us Aller Barry.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I've had many Jeffels in my life, Heather, have you, though, yes,
I have. I know exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's hard to know whether you're lying or not, which
is not great for a so called trusted broadcast anyway.
What do you make of the government bringing for the
policy on the doll for the kids.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, it's a bit of an announcement of an announcement
because I knew about it in the budget. Yeah, that's
why they were planning. But it's been fleshed out a bit,
which is good. That anyone earning more than sixty five
thousand dollars a year they'll be required to support their
unemployed eighteen or nineteen year olds. Now, sixty five grand
a year is not a lot of money, as we know,
and if you've got an eighteen year old boy who
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eats a supermarket full of food every day, have a
bit of a problem. But the point that Christopher Luxen
made at his post cabinet news conference is that look,
if you allow these people to go straight on to
the doll from school, which is shown to be the case,
there are fifteen eighteen to nineteen year olds on jobs
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Seeker support at the moment, and another four thousand will
become eligible when the changes kick in. So there's a
lot of kids out there that are not working. And
the point that Christopher Luxen makes is that they should
shift for jobs now. I remember when I was a teenager,
I left home at seventeen, and you know, I was
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a big enough boy to be away from home. And
I'm sure there are many eighteen year olds mature enough
these days to do likewise. But look, the budget document
show that will save the government about eighty four million
dollars a year. Well, Chris Luckson didn't put the figure
as high as that, but he did encourage young people
to move around the country. As I say, his message
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to the eighteen and nineteen year olds is that we
love you. That's what he said. We love you, but
we don't want you can signed to a life of welfare.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The message very clearly is to all parentss, play your
part and get your young person out connected to work
or training or education. We're playing our part by saying, look,
that's just not a natural pathway that you just get
to drift on into welfare. We leave you there for
eighteen years is not going to happen. We want to
do everything we can to support you into good jobs.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's incredible that we've got this idea that it is
a welfare country. But you can live for so long
receiving a handout. I mean, I've never had a hand
up my life. I find it.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, that's not true. You get the winter energy payment,
don't you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh true that men, don't you. Oh that's right. I'm
a trusted broadcaster too, so.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You're getting your own kind of hand out. But I
take your point, and yes, it is nutty. It is
nutty that we're raising this many kids who think they're
just sitting on your butt on the doll is a
perfectly good life.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Totally, it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay. Hey, I'm struggling to understand what exactly do the
families of these three kids who are held in Israeli
detention want well.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I listened to the three of them and I'm not
quite sure. They obviously are being coached by the Greens,
because the Greens hosted them at a news conference today
and they piled on the government and said that the
government should be taking action against Israel. Now we know
that Chloe Swarbrick has got a bill and the biscuit
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and for action to be taken, sanctions to be taken
against Israel, so they were pushing that there today Chloe
Swarbrick she lambasted the government for remaining silent on getting
the three, these three on the vertatilla back to New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
The government Christopher Luxen has a legal obligation under the
Genocide Convention to do everything that he possibly can to
prevent genocide, and right now he is refusing to disengage
from business as usual with Israel, who it is well documented,
are currently committing a genocide. These three New Zealanders were
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operating entirely legally. Israel has not and our government has
a legal obligation to respond two years into this genocide
in Gaza. What is the hold up for our government?
By no for a fact that right now there are
backbench government MPs who feel compelled to act, who do
have a conscience, but they are currently terrified to step
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outside of their party lines.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So what they were plugging there was that would take
six government MPs to cross the floor and support the bill,
and they would have a majority to pass it. But look,
Christopher Luxanada's news conference said that they have criticized and
they have roundly the reaction over reaction of Israel to
what has been happening in Gaza, and beyond that, I
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don't know what New Zealand, a country five million people
at the bottom of the world, can do to stop
this action.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
No, we could take things, we could impost that. Well,
none of the wild is right, so it's a failure
by everybody, but we don't.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Israel as not our main trading partner, but they do
have a lot of technological.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yea, it is about collective action. Though, Hey, what do
you make of Adrian Or getting them of four hundred
and sixteen thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, if you listen to the Taxpayer's Union, so they
say that Adrian Or is an ill tempered bully whose
actions cost the taxpayer billions of dollars, So why should
he walk off with a handshake of almost half a
million dollars when he earns just under eight hundred thousand
dollars a year, So that brought his final paypacket for
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the year up to one point two million dollars, which
incidentally was about the same as he was earning when
he was at the Superannuation Fund. He probably wishes now
he had kept that job, but look, it's a restraint
of trade the four hundred and sixty thousand dollars years paid.
But it does you have to ask the question where
(06:00):
would a reserve bank governor go to be competitive in
the workplace and why should they have respond Where is
he going.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
To go to it to an alternative central bank?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It's going to happen. Rys. That's because it's a crock,
isn't it. It's just a basically it's a shutting.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Look.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Every chief executive, which is essentially what he was, always
has in their contract a golden handshake written out.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Okay, Barry, thanks very much, Barrys over, Senior political correspondent.
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